O.T. Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc - moving text in cell + comparison chart

2015-04-28 Thread James E Lang
XThis (my message) IS off topic but I'm trying to figure out where and why "Re: 
[SPAM?] " got added to the subject of Susan's message,

The five headers that pertain to spam are:

X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at bilbo2.documentfoundation.org
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.9
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=6.31
 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_BLOCKED=0.001,
 SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham

I guess that the prior message in the discussion got tagged as potential spam 
on its way to Susan. (??)

-- 
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Susan Deaton 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:07
Subject: Re: [SPAM?] Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc - moving text in cell + 
comparison chart


On 4/26/2015 4:16 PM, Brian Barker wrote:
> At 14:31 26/04/2015 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
>> I'm learning the function keys between MS Excel and Libre Calc work 
>> quite differently. In Excel if you wish text in a cell to return to 
>> the next line in that cell, you choose Ctrl + Enter.
>
> I think you are a bit confused here! In Microsoft Excel, Ctrl+Enter is 
> used in place of Enter to complete an entry when you have selected a 
> range of cells and want them all populated with the same entry. In 
> Excel, if you want to create a manual line break within a cell, you 
> use Alt+Enter, not Ctrl+Enter.
>
>> That doesn't seem to work in Libre Calc. Could you please share how 
>> that is done in Libre Calc?
>
> To add to the confusion, Ctrl+Enter is precisely how you achieve the 
> same thing in Calc! But this works only in the cell, not in the Input 
> Line. And - you've guessed it! - Alt+Enter is how you perform multiple 
> insertions. The two keyboard shortcuts swap their effects between 
> Excel and Calc, that is.
>
>> Has anyone happened upon any comparison chart showing how to 
>> accomplish certain functions in Libre Calc compared with how you 
>> perform them in MS Excel?
>
> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Migration_Guide/Calc_and_Excel
>  
> is written for OpenOffice and may or may not be helpful. It's part of 
> OpenOffice's Migration Guide.
>
> I trust this helps.
>
> Brian Barker
>
>
It certainly helps me!  Your "To add to the confusion" paragraph details 
something I've been wanting for a long time.
-- Tim Deaton


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Re: [SPAM?] Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc - moving text in cell + comparison chart

2015-04-28 Thread Susan Deaton


On 4/26/2015 4:16 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 14:31 26/04/2015 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
I'm learning the function keys between MS Excel and Libre Calc work 
quite differently. In Excel if you wish text in a cell to return to 
the next line in that cell, you choose Ctrl + Enter.


I think you are a bit confused here! In Microsoft Excel, Ctrl+Enter is 
used in place of Enter to complete an entry when you have selected a 
range of cells and want them all populated with the same entry. In 
Excel, if you want to create a manual line break within a cell, you 
use Alt+Enter, not Ctrl+Enter.


That doesn't seem to work in Libre Calc. Could you please share how 
that is done in Libre Calc?


To add to the confusion, Ctrl+Enter is precisely how you achieve the 
same thing in Calc! But this works only in the cell, not in the Input 
Line. And - you've guessed it! - Alt+Enter is how you perform multiple 
insertions. The two keyboard shortcuts swap their effects between 
Excel and Calc, that is.


Has anyone happened upon any comparison chart showing how to 
accomplish certain functions in Libre Calc compared with how you 
perform them in MS Excel?


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Migration_Guide/Calc_and_Excel 
is written for OpenOffice and may or may not be helpful. It's part of 
OpenOffice's Migration Guide.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


It certainly helps me!  Your "To add to the confusion" paragraph details 
something I've been wanting for a long time.

-- Tim Deaton


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc - moving text in cell + comparison chart

2015-04-26 Thread James E Lang
Ctrl+Enter does the job for as long as I can remember in the 
LibreOffice/OpenOffice.org Calc product line.

-- 
Jim

-Original Message-
From: charles meyer 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Sun, 26 Apr 2015 11:33
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc - moving text in cell + comparison chart

Hi Folks,

I’m learning the function keys between MS Excel and Libre Calc work
quite differently.

In Excel if you wish text in a cell to return to the next line in that
cell, you choose Ctrl + Enter.

That’s doesn’t seem to work in Libre Calc.

Could you please share how that is done in Libre Calc?

Has anyone happened upon any comparison chart showing how to
accomplish certain functions in Libre Calc compared with how you
perform them in MS Excel?

MS has shared that with MS Word and WordPerfect so if you’re
transitioning into MS Word you can acclimate easier.

Thanks so much!

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc - moving text in cell + comparison chart

2015-04-26 Thread Brian Barker

At 14:31 26/04/2015 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
I'm learning the function keys between MS Excel and Libre Calc work 
quite differently. In Excel if you wish text in a cell to return to 
the next line in that cell, you choose Ctrl + Enter.


I think you are a bit confused here! In Microsoft Excel, Ctrl+Enter 
is used in place of Enter to complete an entry when you have selected 
a range of cells and want them all populated with the same entry. In 
Excel, if you want to create a manual line break within a cell, you 
use Alt+Enter, not Ctrl+Enter.


That doesn't seem to work in Libre Calc. Could you please share how 
that is done in Libre Calc?


To add to the confusion, Ctrl+Enter is precisely how you achieve the 
same thing in Calc! But this works only in the cell, not in the Input 
Line. And - you've guessed it! - Alt+Enter is how you perform 
multiple insertions. The two keyboard shortcuts swap their effects 
between Excel and Calc, that is.


Has anyone happened upon any comparison chart showing how to 
accomplish certain functions in Libre Calc compared with how you 
perform them in MS Excel?


https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/UserGuide/Migration_Guide/Calc_and_Excel 
is written for OpenOffice and may or may not be helpful. It's part of 
OpenOffice's Migration Guide.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Calc - moving text in cell + comparison chart

2015-04-26 Thread Piet van Oostrum
charles meyer wrote:

 > Hi Folks,
 > 
 > I’m learning the function keys between MS Excel and Libre Calc work
 > quite differently.
 > 
 > In Excel if you wish text in a cell to return to the next line in that
 > cell, you choose Ctrl + Enter.
 > 
 > That’s doesn’t seem to work in Libre Calc.
 > 
 > Could you please share how that is done in Libre Calc?
 > 
 > Has anyone happened upon any comparison chart showing how to
 > accomplish certain functions in Libre Calc compared with how you
 > perform them in MS Excel?
 > 
 > MS has shared that with MS Word and WordPerfect so if you’re
 > transitioning into MS Word you can acclimate easier.
 > 
 > Thanks so much!
 > 
 > Charles.
 > 

On my Mac it works with Cmd-Enter. Which is kind of strange as Cmd-Enter 
inserts a page break in Writer, whereas in Writer both Ctrl-Enter and 
Shift-Enter insert a newline, even in table cells.
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