Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-21 Thread Brian Barker

At 11:25 21/10/2012 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
Yes, you got it. My goal is to open (not paste in) saved plain text 
files in a blank, newly opened Libre Write document.


I've visited Preformatted Style and change the style to Bookman Old 
12 point, clicked Apply and then saved it (or so I thought) only for 
it to always default back to Courier New 10 point when I open any 
plain text file.  I've created a Default font with Bookman Old 12 
point but Libre Write automatically opens all *saved* plain text 
files to Preformatted Style not Default.  I just wondered if there 
was any way to change which style Libre Writer will open *saved* 
plain text files automatically to since Libre Writer does not seems 
to save changes to the Preformatted Style?


Writer will save changes to paragraph styles, but only in the current 
document.  If you save your document in Writer's native .odt format 
and reopen it, you will see that any modifications to styles have 
been preserved.  The point that you are perhaps missing is that 
saving as plain text is very much an export option, not a way of 
saving a word processor document.  (Think of it like creating a PDF 
version of your document - which function Writer helpfully includes 
as Export in the File menu, not as a Save As... option.)  As 
already mentioned by others, style changes cannot be saved in a plain 
text file - which is just that: the plain and unvarnished text.  So 
when you reopen such a file, you are creating a fresh document as far 
as Writer is concerned and any changes you made to its now-discarded 
alter ego are irrelevant.


If you need to save a document and later to re-edit it, plain text is 
useless.  As always, the best way to proceed is to save your 
documents in Writer's native format.  If there is any need for a 
plain text version of your document, first save your most recent 
changes to the .odt file (for future use) and then save the plain 
text version separately.


The key seems to be inducing Libre Writer to open Text Encoded 
and/or Plain Text files to either Default (where I have it set to 
Bookman Old 12 point) or another style which does not require 
Courier New 10 point.


I don't see any way to do this.  If you follow the scheme above, you 
will need to apply the style or font you prefer only once for each 
such document - which is hardly a penance.  After that, the .odt 
version you are working with will preserve its appearance faithfully.


Has anyone on the list successful changed the style Text Encoded or 
Plain Text files open to?


I wish you luck.  But - as I say - the expected method of modifying 
the Preformatted Text paragraph style in a new template and then 
setting that as the default template does not work.  When opening 
plain text files into new documents, Writer uses the default 
default template (Text Document), not your newly defined default 
template, and relies on the unmodified style in that template.  This 
is unexpected (by me, at least) but true!


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-21 Thread TomW

On 2012-10-21 11:25, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Brian,

Yes, you got it. My goal is to open (not paste in) saved plain text
files in a blank, newly opened Libre Write document.

I've visited Preformatted Style and change the style to Bookman Old 12
point, clicked Apply  and then saved it (or so I thought) only for it
to always default back to Courier New 10 point when I open any plain
text file.

I've created a Default font with Bookman Old 12 point but Libre Write
automatically opens all *saved* plain text files to Preformatted Style
not Default.

I just wondered if there was any way to change which style Libre
Writer will open *saved* plain text files automatically to since Libre
Writer does not seems to save changes to the Prefromatted Style?

Oddly enough if you click FormatStyles the drop down list of
autonomic styles Preoformated is *not* listed.

You must list all styles to find it.

Following webmaster-Kracked's inspiration, I saved a document as Text
Encoded but whne I re-opened the file it still opens all documents
saved as Text Encoded and/or Plain Text in the Performatted Style.

The key seems to be induing Libre Writer to open Text Encoded and/or
Plain Text files to either Default (where I have it set to Bookman Old
12 point) or another style which does not require Courier New 10
point.

Has anyone on the list successful changed the style Text Encoded or
Plain Text files open to?

Thanks so much,

Charles.

Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text
documents to desired font
From:Brian Barkerb.m.bar...@btinternet.com
Date:Sat, 20 Oct 2012 04:21:49 +0100
To:users@global.libreoffice.org

snip

There are two issues here, I think.  In order to change the
Preformatted Text paragraph style you have to have a document open -
and the change is made to the style in that document, not in your
installation of LibreOffice.  So your change is ignored when you open
the new document from your plain text file.  The way around that might
seem to be to create a template containing your modified Preformatted
Text paragraph style and then to set that as the default template.
You can certainly do that.  Now you would probably expect in this case
that when you open your plain text file the new text (Writer) document
would be created from your new modified default template, but -
perhaps perversely - it appears to be opened using the original
default default template, ignoring your desired change.

I trust this helps (though I doubt it does).

Brian Barker



Charles/Brian:

I found one way to view a plain text file in something other than the 
default Courier New 10 pt' when it is opened.  If you go into 
Tools|Options|Fonts, you can use font substitution to change the 
Courier New 10 pt font to a different font.  FYI: This will impact any 
other documents that use the Courier New font that may not be plain 
text files.


Maybe this helps,

TomW

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
I think you don't even have to select all your text.  Just have the cursor 
somewhere in the text and click on the box besides the fonts box on the toolbar 
and reselect default (or whatever) i think that should be enough to reassert 
your fonts and sizes rather than copying the ones used in your text-editor.  

My text editor doesn't use Courier so i get Arial or something when i try to 
copypaste from it.  
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 15:44
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to 
desired font
 
Hi Folks,

I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
style and size.

I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
(.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
and clicked Apply, then OK.

I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
chosen font and size.

However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
12 point I chose and saved.

Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
whenever you open a plain text file?

I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
open to a desired font stye?

Thank you so much,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 10/19/2012 10:44 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
style and size.

I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
(.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
and clicked Apply, then OK.

I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
chosen font and size.

However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
12 point I chose and saved.

Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
whenever you open a plain text file?

I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
open to a desired font stye?

Thank you so much,

Charles.

I do not remember that you can save a font style and such in a plain 
text file.


How did you set up the Styles and Formatting to open plain text files 
to Bookman Old?  I do not remember how this is done or if it can be done 
for the default font used on opening a specific mime-type file for 
.txt or such.


my 3.5.7 - 64-bit DEBs install gives me:

   save as text - DejaVu Sans Mono

   save as text encoded - Times New Roman - which was the font that
   it was in when I saved the document.


So Text Encoded should keep the text font/style you used for the 
document and save it as a .txt mime type or file extension type.


.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread charles meyer
Hi Tom,

Have you figured out if Libre Writer can open plain text files
automatically to your chosen font?

When I place the cursor anywhere in the body of the text of a plain
text file and then choose Default in the style window it only changes
that line of text to my chosen Default style, not the whole file of
text.

What version of Libre are you using?

Thank you,

Charles.

On 10/19/12, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think you don't even have to select all your text.  Just have the cursor
 somewhere in the text and click on the box besides the fonts box on the
 toolbar and reselect default (or whatever) i think that should be enough to
 reassert your fonts and sizes rather than copying the ones used in your
 text-editor.

 My text editor doesn't use Courier so i get Arial or something when i try to
 copypaste from it.
 Regards from
 Tom :)






 From: charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 15:44
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to
 desired font

Hi Folks,

I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
style and size.

I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
(.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
and clicked Apply, then OK.

I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
chosen font and size.

However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
12 point I chose and saved.

Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
whenever you open a plain text file?

I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
open to a desired font stye?

Thank you so much,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread Jay Lozier

On 10/19/2012 10:44 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
style and size.

I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
(.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
and clicked Apply, then OK.

I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
chosen font and size.

However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
12 point I chose and saved.

Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
whenever you open a plain text file?

I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
open to a desired font stye?

Thank you so much,

Charles.

AFAIK *.txt do not store any complex formating information beyond what 
is found in the character set (UTF-8 typically). Thus tabs, carriage 
returns, line feeds are encoded; they are part of the character set. 
Bold, italic, font, size are not part of the character set; thus are not 
encoded. When you open a txt file, it appears to open using the mono 
space font set as your system default (mine is Droid Sans Mono, 10 
point). Typically, text editors use mono space fonts so that each 
character/space has the same width which makes eyeballing the layout 
for source code easier when indenting. *txt files are also called plain 
text files because that is what they are just plain text.


After formating the text, I would save as the file as *.odt (and *.doc 
if sharing) formats to preserve the desired formating.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread webmaster-Kracked_P_P

On 10/19/2012 11:43 AM, Jay Lozier wrote:

On 10/19/2012 10:44 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Folks,

I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
style and size.

I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
(.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
and clicked Apply, then OK.

I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
chosen font and size.

However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
12 point I chose and saved.

Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
whenever you open a plain text file?

I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
open to a desired font stye?

Thank you so much,

Charles.

AFAIK *.txt do not store any complex formating information beyond what 
is found in the character set (UTF-8 typically). Thus tabs, carriage 
returns, line feeds are encoded; they are part of the character set. 
Bold, italic, font, size are not part of the character set; thus are 
not encoded. When you open a txt file, it appears to open using the 
mono space font set as your system default (mine is Droid Sans Mono, 
10 point). Typically, text editors use mono space fonts so that each 
character/space has the same width which makes eyeballing the layout 
for source code easier when indenting. *txt files are also called 
plain text files because that is what they are just plain text.


After formating the text, I would save as the file as *.odt (and *.doc 
if sharing) formats to preserve the desired formating.


As I said in my post, USE Text Encoded and your .txt file will save 
the font and the style of font in the file.  Plain TEXT does not.,  
Encoded Text [Text Encoded] does.


Text - opened with the fixed width - i.e. MONO - font, but saving as 
Text Encoded kept the Times New Roman font formatting from the original 
document when I opened it.  The issue for me is that both formats use 
the same mime/file-extension type of .txt.


TEXT ENCODED is the answer.  Save it in that file format and it solves 
the problem.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread Dan Lewis
 If you have plain text, use Control+A to highlight the entire 
text. Then clicking the Default Paragraph style will change to your 
desired font.
 The key to what is happening is the type of style being applied: 
paragraph. If you place the cursor in a single line paragraph, clicking 
Default will only change one line. If a paragraph has several lines, 
doing this will change several lines.
 Stop and think about your question. If Writer were to do what you 
wanted, it would do this for all text files. That means you might later 
create a text document with  several custom styles in it. Opening this 
document in Writer would remove all these styles. This is not a good idea.
 However, there is a better way to do this using copy and paste 
special. Open the text in a simple text editor (Notepad, Gedit, etc.) 
Open Writer with an Untitled document. Click your Default style so that 
it is applied to the first paragraph (empty paragraph in this case. Copy 
the text. Paste special (Control+Shift+V). Select Unformatted text. All 
the text will be pasted with your default font.


--Dan

On 10/19/2012 11:37 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Tom,

Have you figured out if Libre Writer can open plain text files
automatically to your chosen font?

When I place the cursor anywhere in the body of the text of a plain
text file and then choose Default in the style window it only changes
that line of text to my chosen Default style, not the whole file of
text.

What version of Libre are you using?

Thank you,

Charles.

On 10/19/12, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
I think you don't even have to select all your text.  Just have the cursor
somewhere in the text and click on the box besides the fonts box on the
toolbar and reselect default (or whatever) i think that should be enough to
reassert your fonts and sizes rather than copying the ones used in your
text-editor.

My text editor doesn't use Courier so i get Arial or something when i try to
copypaste from it.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 15:44
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to
desired font

Hi Folks,

I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
style and size.

I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
(.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
and clicked Apply, then OK.

I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
chosen font and size.

However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
12 point I chose and saved.

Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
whenever you open a plain text file?

I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
open to a desired font stye?

Thank you so much,

Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Ahhh, thanks Dan.  That makes more sense.  Sorry Charles, ignore me.
Regards from
Tom :)  






 From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 17:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents 
to desired font
 
      If you have plain text, use Control+A to highlight the entire 
text. Then clicking the Default Paragraph style will change to your 
desired font.
      The key to what is happening is the type of style being applied: 
paragraph. If you place the cursor in a single line paragraph, clicking 
Default will only change one line. If a paragraph has several lines, 
doing this will change several lines.
      Stop and think about your question. If Writer were to do what you 
wanted, it would do this for all text files. That means you might later 
create a text document with  several custom styles in it. Opening this 
document in Writer would remove all these styles. This is not a good idea.
      However, there is a better way to do this using copy and paste 
special. Open the text in a simple text editor (Notepad, Gedit, etc.) 
Open Writer with an Untitled document. Click your Default style so that 
it is applied to the first paragraph (empty paragraph in this case. Copy 
the text. Paste special (Control+Shift+V). Select Unformatted text. All 
the text will be pasted with your default font.

--Dan

On 10/19/2012 11:37 AM, charles meyer wrote:
 Hi Tom,

 Have you figured out if Libre Writer can open plain text files
 automatically to your chosen font?

 When I place the cursor anywhere in the body of the text of a plain
 text file and then choose Default in the style window it only changes
 that line of text to my chosen Default style, not the whole file of
 text.

 What version of Libre are you using?

 Thank you,

 Charles.

 On 10/19/12, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
 Hi :)
 I think you don't even have to select all your text.  Just have the cursor
 somewhere in the text and click on the box besides the fonts box on the
 toolbar and reselect default (or whatever) i think that should be enough to
 reassert your fonts and sizes rather than copying the ones used in your
 text-editor.

 My text editor doesn't use Courier so i get Arial or something when i try to
 copypaste from it.
 Regards from
 Tom :)





 
 From: charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com
 To: users@global.libreoffice.org
 Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 15:44
 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to
 desired font

 Hi Folks,

 I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
 font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
 style and size.

 I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
 (.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

 Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

 I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
 Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
 and clicked Apply, then OK.

 I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
 chosen font and size.

 However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
 Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
 12 point I chose and saved.

 Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
 font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
 whenever you open a plain text file?

 I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
 chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
 and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
 open to a desired font stye?

 Thank you so much,

 Charles.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread MiguelAngel

El 19/10/12 18:27, Tom Davies escribió:

Hi :)
Ahhh, thanks Dan.  That makes more sense.  Sorry Charles, ignore me.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: Dan Lewis elderdanle...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 17:08
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to 
desired font

   If you have plain text, use Control+A to highlight the entire
text. Then clicking the Default Paragraph style will change to your
desired font.
   The key to what is happening is the type of style being applied:
paragraph. If you place the cursor in a single line paragraph, clicking
Default will only change one line. If a paragraph has several lines,
doing this will change several lines.
   Stop and think about your question. If Writer were to do what you
wanted, it would do this for all text files. That means you might later
create a text document with  several custom styles in it. Opening this
document in Writer would remove all these styles. This is not a good idea.
   However, there is a better way to do this using copy and paste
special. Open the text in a simple text editor (Notepad, Gedit, etc.)
Open Writer with an Untitled document. Click your Default style so that
it is applied to the first paragraph (empty paragraph in this case. Copy
the text. Paste special (Control+Shift+V). Select Unformatted text. All
the text will be pasted with your default font.

--Dan

On 10/19/2012 11:37 AM, charles meyer wrote:

Hi Tom,

Have you figured out if Libre Writer can open plain text files
automatically to your chosen font?

When I place the cursor anywhere in the body of the text of a plain
text file and then choose Default in the style window it only changes
that line of text to my chosen Default style, not the whole file of
text.

What version of Libre are you using?

Thank you,

Charles.

On 10/19/12, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

Hi :)
I think you don't even have to select all your text.  Just have the cursor
somewhere in the text and click on the box besides the fonts box on the
toolbar and reselect default (or whatever) i think that should be enough to
reassert your fonts and sizes rather than copying the ones used in your
text-editor.

My text editor doesn't use Courier so i get Arial or something when i try to
copypaste from it.
Regards from
Tom :)







From: charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.com
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 15:44
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to
desired font

Hi Folks,

I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
style and size.

I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
(.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Preformatted
Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
and clicked Apply, then OK.

I then reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my
chosen font and size.

However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
12 point I chose and saved.

Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
whenever you open a plain text file?

I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
chosoe the Default style and it will change back to my desired font
and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
open to a desired font stye?

Thank you so much,

Charles.

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Menu/Insert/File set the style in use where the file text is inserted.

So creating a new writer file and inserting the file, must assign the 
default format.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread anne-ology
   If you're saying you wish to use a different font for your default
font, then just go to 'properties'
   -- scroll through the folder-files to change the set defaults
to those you desire
 -- save your changes.
   There's a setting for documents you make as well as documents you
receive; font colour may also be chosen.



On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 9:44 AM, charles meyer reachmepl...@gmail.comwrote:

Hi Folks,

 I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own default
 font style and size so a blank document will open to that default
 style and size.

 I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when I open a saved plain text
 (.txt) file it opens to my created default style and size.

 Right now it opens to Pre-formatted Text - Courier New 10 point.

 I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked on Pre-formatted
 Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to Bookman Old 12 point
 and clicked Apply, then OK.

 I then re-opened Pre-formatted Text style and it indeed displays my
 chosen font and size.

 However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to
 Pre-formatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman Old
 12 point I chose and saved.

 Would anyone know if you can open saved plain documents to a desired
 font style and size or are you always stuck with Courier New 10 point
 whenever you open a plain text file?

 I know I can highlight all the text in the opened plain text file and
   choosethe Default style and it will change back to my desired font
 and style but is there any way of ensuring any plain text files will
 open to a desired font stye?

 Thank you so much,

 Charles.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread Brian Barker

At 10:44 19/10/2012 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own 
default font style and size so a blank document will open to that 
default style and size.  I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when 
I open a saved plain text (.txt) file it opens to my created default 
style and size.  Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier 
New 10 point.  I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked 
on Preformatted Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to 
Bookman Old 12 point and clicked Apply, then OK.  I then reopened 
Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my chosen font and size.


However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to 
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman 
Old 12 point I chose and saved.  Would anyone know if you can open 
saved plain documents to a desired font style and size or are you 
always stuck with Courier New 10 point whenever you open a plain text file?


I don't think that there is a way to do this.  The answers so far 
have been workarounds.  (It's not clear whether their authors were 
aware of that.)  You are not talking about inserting a file into an 
existing document or pasting text into an existing document but about 
opening a plain text file in LibreOffice (Writer) - either through 
File | Open... or using Open With  (or similar) in your operating 
system.  You would then, after editing, presumably save this as a 
(formatted) .odt document.


There are two issues here, I think.  In order to change the 
Preformatted Text paragraph style you have to have a document open - 
and the change is made to the style in that document, not in your 
installation of LibreOffice.  So your change is ignored when you open 
the new document from your plain text file.  The way around that 
might seem to be to create a template containing your modified 
Preformatted Text paragraph style and then to set that as the default 
template.  You can certainly do that.  Now you would probably expect 
in this case that when you open your plain text file the new text 
(Writer) document would be created from your new modified default 
template, but - perhaps perversely - it appears to be opened using 
the original default default template, ignoring your desired change.


I trust this helps (though I doubt it does).

Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread Brian Barker

At 12:08 19/10/2012 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

From: Charles Meyer
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 15:44
I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own 
default font style and size so a blank document will open to that 
default style and size.  I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that 
when I open a saved plain text (.txt) file it opens to my created 
default style and size.  Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - 
Courier New 10 point.  I've visited Styles and Formatting and right 
clicked on Preformatted Text and chosen Modify and changes the font 
to Bookman Old 12 point and clicked Apply, then OK.  I then 
reopened Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my chosen 
font and size.


However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to 
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman 
Old 12 point I chose and saved.  Would anyone know if you can open 
saved plain documents to a desired font style and size or are you 
always stuck with Courier New 10 point whenever you open a plain text file?


Stop and think about your question. If Writer were to do what you 
wanted, it would do this for all text files. That means you might 
later create a text document with several custom styles in it. 
Opening this document in Writer would remove all these styles. This 
is not a good idea.


I think you've missed the point here.  The questioner is asking about 
opening *plain* text files.  Yes: he wants to control the automatic 
paragraph style which Writer chooses for all plain text files opened 
in this way.  The text files containing custom styles that you are 
describing are formatted text (Writer) files - probably in .odt 
format.  (No doubt he will save his new documents in that format 
after he has edited them.)  Opening such .odt documents does not 
impose Preformatted Text paragraph style on anything, of course.


Brian Barker


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Libre Writer - Opening plain text documents to desired font

2012-10-19 Thread Dan Lewis

On 10/19/2012 11:23 PM, Brian Barker wrote:

At 12:08 19/10/2012 -0400, Dan Lewis wrote:

From: Charles Meyer
Sent: Friday, 19 October 2012, 15:44
I'm new to Libre Office but I read how you can create your own 
default font style and size so a blank document will open to that 
default style and size.  I'm trying to set Libre Writer so that when 
I open a saved plain text (.txt) file it opens to my created default 
style and size. Right now it opens to Preformatted Text - Courier 
New 10 point.  I've visited Styles and Formatting and right clicked 
on Preformatted Text and chosen Modify and changes the font to 
Bookman Old 12 point and clicked Apply, then OK.  I then reopened 
Preformatted Text style and it indeed displays my chosen font and size.


However, still when I open a saved plain text file it opens to 
Preformatted Text but with Courier New 10 point - not the Bookman 
Old 12 point I chose and saved.  Would anyone know if you can open 
saved plain documents to a desired font style and size or are you 
always stuck with Courier New 10 point whenever you open a plain 
text file?


Stop and think about your question. If Writer were to do what you 
wanted, it would do this for all text files. That means you might 
later create a text document with several custom styles in it. 
Opening this document in Writer would remove all these styles. This 
is not a good idea.


I think you've missed the point here.  The questioner is asking about 
opening *plain* text files.  Yes: he wants to control the automatic 
paragraph style which Writer chooses for all plain text files opened 
in this way.  The text files containing custom styles that you are 
describing are formatted text (Writer) files - probably in .odt 
format.  (No doubt he will save his new documents in that format after 
he has edited them.)  Opening such .odt documents does not impose 
Preformatted Text paragraph style on anything, of course.


Brian Barker
 Perhaps I did miss the point. So, here is another thought. Open 
the desired template which creates an untitled document with its styles. 
Then Insert  File. Browse to the text document. Click Open. In my case, 
the plain text was formatted with the desired format.
  There must be a difference of how LO handles a text file when it 
opens it vs when it inserts it.


--Dan

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