Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer

2014-08-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Congrats to Dave Boland on findingfixing it!  Nicely done.  :))
Regards from
Tom :)


On 27 August 2014 03:28, Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com wrote:

 Not the most intuitive. It would have made more sense to me to put the
 default outline style used in headings in styles.
 Steve


 On 2014-08-27 12:46, dave boland wrote:

 Thanks!  I got it to work playing with Tools/Outline Numbering.  Not the
 most intuitive choice (Format/Bullets Numbering would be more likely),
 but it works and I'm happy.  Thanks again!

 Dave,

 On Mon, Aug 25, 2014, at 11:30 PM, dave boland wrote:

 How is this done?  I have another document that needs this type of
 numbering, so I used F11, went to Heading 1, Modify, but could not find
 a way to go from 1. to 1.0.  Same deal with Heading 2 - how do I
 chage the style so it goes from 1. to (for example) 1.1 or 2.1
 etc. I looked at the help section, but it was obviously not helpful
 enough (for me).

 Thanks!
 Dave

 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:

 Yes, got caught again by that damn list problem.

 Well, I would say that earlier version of MS Office (i.e. any time up to
 2003) had very usable styles, but maybe that is a matter of taste. I had
 to
 do the very thing the original questioner asked about in MS Office 2010
 a
 couple of weeks ago and it was a lot harder than in LibreOffice. But the
 general answer for any modern office suite is to do it with styles.

 Regards,


 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi :)
 I think Styles often get ignored by beginners because in MS Office they
 are more of a hindrance than a useful tool.  In LibreOffice they are
 really
 useful though so it's good to introduce people to them at the slightest
 excuse.

 I was hoping your message would go to the whole mailing list but it
 only
 came to me :(  I think it would really help the couple of new people
 that
 have joined recently.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 On 14 August 2014 13:44, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I always keep the Styles and Formatting window open and
 anchored to
 the left of the screen, so I would just access the List styles there.

 Regards,


 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  Hi :)
  From the Format menu, the icon-toolbar or the F11, Styles, extra
 menu
 or somewhere else?
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 On 14 August 2014 00:43, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

  Well, I do it using a List style.

 Regards


 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:

  Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline
 1.0 Head 1
 1.1 Head 2
 1.2 Head 2
 1.2.1 Head 3
 2.0 Head 1

 Can't find how to do it in  4.1.3.2  Any ideas?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer

2014-08-26 Thread Steve Edmonds

Hi.
My reply to your first post was

It still does but it seems broke in my 4.1. It is in the selection of 
outlines but not set (configured) but you can get it back.
In FormatBullets  Numbering you need to go into Position and adjust 
the indent and go into Options tab and for each level change the show 
sublevels. I.E for level 4 it would be show sub levels of 4.


In regards to using styles (F11), Paragraph style Heading one has 
numbering style Outline numbering. Style Outline numbering doesn't 
appear in the styles dialogue so it seems the outline can only be 
changed from FormatBullets  Numbering when the headings are selected.


So I Suppose if by 'this' you mean your original question;
Assign style heading 1, heading2, etc. as required.
Click into heading 1 and click the numbering on/off icon. Same for other 
headings.

In menu go to FormatBullets  Numbering and
- select the outline you require 1. 1.1 1.1.1 ,etc.
- set the position
- in options, for each level change the show sublevels. I.E for 
level 4 it would be show sub levels of 4.


Steve

On 2014-08-26 15:30, dave boland wrote:

How is this done?  I have another document that needs this type of
numbering, so I used F11, went to Heading 1, Modify, but could not find
a way to go from 1. to 1.0.  Same deal with Heading 2 - how do I
chage the style so it goes from 1. to (for example) 1.1 or 2.1
etc. I looked at the help section, but it was obviously not helpful
enough (for me).

Thanks!
Dave

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:

Yes, got caught again by that damn list problem.

Well, I would say that earlier version of MS Office (i.e. any time up to
2003) had very usable styles, but maybe that is a matter of taste. I had
to
do the very thing the original questioner asked about in MS Office 2010 a
couple of weeks ago and it was a lot harder than in LibreOffice. But the
general answer for any modern office suite is to do it with styles.

Regards,


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi :)
I think Styles often get ignored by beginners because in MS Office they
are more of a hindrance than a useful tool.  In LibreOffice they are really
useful though so it's good to introduce people to them at the slightest
excuse.

I was hoping your message would go to the whole mailing list but it only
came to me :(  I think it would really help the couple of new people that
have joined recently.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 14 August 2014 13:44, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, I always keep the Styles and Formatting window open and anchored to
the left of the screen, so I would just access the List styles there.

Regards,


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi :)
 From the Format menu, the icon-toolbar or the F11, Styles, extra menu
or somewhere else?
Regards from
Tom :)


On 14 August 2014 00:43, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, I do it using a List style.

Regards


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm
wrote:


Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline
1.0 Head 1
1.1 Head 2
1.2 Head 2
1.2.1 Head 3
2.0 Head 1

Can't find how to do it in  4.1.3.2  Any ideas?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer

2014-08-26 Thread dave boland
Thanks!  I got it to work playing with Tools/Outline Numbering.  Not the
most intuitive choice (Format/Bullets Numbering would be more likely),
but it works and I'm happy.  Thanks again!

Dave,

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014, at 11:30 PM, dave boland wrote:
 How is this done?  I have another document that needs this type of
 numbering, so I used F11, went to Heading 1, Modify, but could not find
 a way to go from 1. to 1.0.  Same deal with Heading 2 - how do I
 chage the style so it goes from 1. to (for example) 1.1 or 2.1
 etc. I looked at the help section, but it was obviously not helpful
 enough (for me).
 
 Thanks!
 Dave
 
 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
  Yes, got caught again by that damn list problem.
  
  Well, I would say that earlier version of MS Office (i.e. any time up to
  2003) had very usable styles, but maybe that is a matter of taste. I had
  to
  do the very thing the original questioner asked about in MS Office 2010 a
  couple of weeks ago and it was a lot harder than in LibreOffice. But the
  general answer for any modern office suite is to do it with styles.
  
  Regards,
  
  
  On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi :)
   I think Styles often get ignored by beginners because in MS Office they
   are more of a hindrance than a useful tool.  In LibreOffice they are 
   really
   useful though so it's good to introduce people to them at the slightest
   excuse.
  
   I was hoping your message would go to the whole mailing list but it only
   came to me :(  I think it would really help the couple of new people that
   have joined recently.
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
  
  
   On 14 August 2014 13:44, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Well, I always keep the Styles and Formatting window open and anchored to
   the left of the screen, so I would just access the List styles there.
  
   Regards,
  
  
   On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Hi :)
   From the Format menu, the icon-toolbar or the F11, Styles, extra menu
   or somewhere else?
   Regards from
   Tom :)
  
  
   On 14 August 2014 00:43, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   Well, I do it using a List style.
  
   Regards
  
  
   On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm
   wrote:
  
Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline
1.0 Head 1
1.1 Head 2
1.2 Head 2
1.2.1 Head 3
2.0 Head 1
   
Can't find how to do it in  4.1.3.2  Any ideas?
   
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer

2014-08-26 Thread Steve Edmonds
Not the most intuitive. It would have made more sense to me to put the 
default outline style used in headings in styles.

Steve

On 2014-08-27 12:46, dave boland wrote:

Thanks!  I got it to work playing with Tools/Outline Numbering.  Not the
most intuitive choice (Format/Bullets Numbering would be more likely),
but it works and I'm happy.  Thanks again!

Dave,

On Mon, Aug 25, 2014, at 11:30 PM, dave boland wrote:

How is this done?  I have another document that needs this type of
numbering, so I used F11, went to Heading 1, Modify, but could not find
a way to go from 1. to 1.0.  Same deal with Heading 2 - how do I
chage the style so it goes from 1. to (for example) 1.1 or 2.1
etc. I looked at the help section, but it was obviously not helpful
enough (for me).

Thanks!
Dave

On Thu, Aug 14, 2014, at 11:36 AM, Kevin O'Brien wrote:

Yes, got caught again by that damn list problem.

Well, I would say that earlier version of MS Office (i.e. any time up to
2003) had very usable styles, but maybe that is a matter of taste. I had
to
do the very thing the original questioner asked about in MS Office 2010 a
couple of weeks ago and it was a lot harder than in LibreOffice. But the
general answer for any modern office suite is to do it with styles.

Regards,


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi :)
I think Styles often get ignored by beginners because in MS Office they
are more of a hindrance than a useful tool.  In LibreOffice they are really
useful though so it's good to introduce people to them at the slightest
excuse.

I was hoping your message would go to the whole mailing list but it only
came to me :(  I think it would really help the couple of new people that
have joined recently.
Regards from
Tom :)




On 14 August 2014 13:44, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, I always keep the Styles and Formatting window open and anchored to
the left of the screen, so I would just access the List styles there.

Regards,


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi :)
 From the Format menu, the icon-toolbar or the F11, Styles, extra menu
or somewhere else?
Regards from
Tom :)


On 14 August 2014 00:43, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, I do it using a List style.

Regards


On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm
wrote:


Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline
1.0 Head 1
1.1 Head 2
1.2 Head 2
1.2.1 Head 3
2.0 Head 1

Can't find how to do it in  4.1.3.2  Any ideas?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer

2014-08-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
From the Format menu, the icon-toolbar or the F11, Styles, extra menu or
somewhere else?
Regards from
Tom :)


On 14 August 2014 00:43, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I do it using a List style.

 Regards


 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline
  1.0 Head 1
  1.1 Head 2
  1.2 Head 2
  1.2.1 Head 3
  2.0 Head 1
 
  Can't find how to do it in  4.1.3.2  Any ideas?
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer

2014-08-14 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Yes, got caught again by that damn list problem.

Well, I would say that earlier version of MS Office (i.e. any time up to
2003) had very usable styles, but maybe that is a matter of taste. I had to
do the very thing the original questioner asked about in MS Office 2010 a
couple of weeks ago and it was a lot harder than in LibreOffice. But the
general answer for any modern office suite is to do it with styles.

Regards,


On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 9:52 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 I think Styles often get ignored by beginners because in MS Office they
 are more of a hindrance than a useful tool.  In LibreOffice they are really
 useful though so it's good to introduce people to them at the slightest
 excuse.

 I was hoping your message would go to the whole mailing list but it only
 came to me :(  I think it would really help the couple of new people that
 have joined recently.
 Regards from
 Tom :)




 On 14 August 2014 13:44, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I always keep the Styles and Formatting window open and anchored to
 the left of the screen, so I would just access the List styles there.

 Regards,


 On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 3:57 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 From the Format menu, the icon-toolbar or the F11, Styles, extra menu
 or somewhere else?
 Regards from
 Tom :)


 On 14 August 2014 00:43, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I do it using a List style.

 Regards


 On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm
 wrote:

  Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline
  1.0 Head 1
  1.1 Head 2
  1.2 Head 2
  1.2.1 Head 3
  2.0 Head 1
 
  Can't find how to do it in  4.1.3.2  Any ideas?
 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Numbering/Outline levels in Writer

2014-08-13 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Well, I do it using a List style.

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On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 4:07 PM, dave boland dbola...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Writer used to allow this from a slection in Outline
 1.0 Head 1
 1.1 Head 2
 1.2 Head 2
 1.2.1 Head 3
 2.0 Head 1

 Can't find how to do it in  4.1.3.2  Any ideas?

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