Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar
From: Avraham Hanadari avhanad...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Tue, 22 February, 2011 5:38:22 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar Le 22/02/2011 01:58, MR ZenWiz a écrit : On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 6:16 AM, Avraham Hanadariavhanad...@gmail.com wrote: : Thanks again. With your suggestion the text does not dance, and that is already a considerable improvement. Unfortunately, only a couple of the icons in the table toolbar show, so the advantage of having it open all the time is largely lost. I've placed a graphic of the toolbars in my DropBox. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1181912/toolbar.PNG You can see that there is not enough visible for use. If you don't mind losing another toolbar's size space, you can take your Find toolbar and the Table toolbar and move them onto a new line of toolbars. (Click on the Find toolbar's left end and move it down to half-way between the two toolbars you already have and that should open a new, third toolbar between the existing two. Then move the Table toolbar down to join it.) Have you tried this? If not, try it and see what happens. The bar still pops in and out and disturbs the text. There is evidently no workaround and the OOo and LO developers have been ignoring complaints for years. Rick Hi :) Don't be so 'hasty' to dismiss the LO devs. They have fixed a LOT of bugs that have been around in OpenOffice for years but obviously there is always more to do. A new bug-report about this might not get to the top of their priority list straight-away but we can hope for better results with LO than OOo. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Avraham Hanadari avhanad...@gmail.com wrote: : Have you tried this? If not, try it and see what happens. The bar still pops in and out and disturbs the text. There is evidently no workaround and the OOo and LO developers have been ignoring complaints for years. I opened a LO Writer window, moved the Find toolbar to a new toolbar line between the two default toolbars, created a table, docked the table toolbar next to the Find toolbar and then moved the cursor in and out of the table. The Table toolbar appeared and reappeared in the same place without disturbing the content of the page panel. For a graphic sequence of pages, see http://zentektales.com/LOTableTbDock.html -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar
From: Avraham Hanadari avhanad...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 19 February, 2011 7:24:49 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar Le 18/02/2011 22:34, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I think that the View menu on the menu bar might help ... View - Toolbars - Table Then you might want to push the table toolbar to the side rather than have it vertical rather than horizontal. Regards from Tom :) Thanks for your remarks. I can select Table in View - Tool bars, and the table tool bar appears when the cursor in not in a table. I then go to the table to work there. When I return the cursor to a non-table part of the document, the table tool bar disappears. This still does not really lock the tool bar open all the time. I have been docking the tool bar at the side for years (with OOo and now LO). This minimizes the disturbance but there is still annoying sideways movement as it appears or disappears. Thanks again, Rick Hi Rick :) I think it's time to post a bug-report about that as once you have selected to show the toolbar all the time it shouldn't suddenly vanish without being de-selected deliberately. http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport How about putting the table-toolbar on the right-hand-side instead until the bug-report gets resolved? Hopefully that might minimise the disruption for you. Good luck and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar
From: Avraham Hanadari avhanad...@gmail.com To: users@libreoffice.org Sent: Sat, 19 February, 2011 7:12:35 Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar Le 18/02/2011 21:46, MR ZenWiz a écrit : On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Avraham Hanadariavhanad...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that the table tool bar opens when I am in a table, but disappears whenever I move to surrounding parts of the page makes the entire page jump up and down in a most disturbing manner. I use tables a lot and would be very happy if I could keep the table tool bar open all the time. I have tried all sorts of settings, but nothing I have tried works. Please! Can someone suggest how the table tool bar could be kept open on a permanent basis? I find the non-anchored position of that toolbar to be an irritant as well, but because it anchors in the wrong place and doesn't move when I move the document window, but that's not really on point Have you tried docking the toolbar to a menu line and then locking its position? Thanks for your remarks. I have tried docking the tool bar, but it still appears and disappears according as I am in or not in a table. The least annoying dock is on the side of the screen, but it still knocks the page a little sideways when it does its appearance trick. Pleas explain exactly what you mean by docking to a menu line. Perhaps I have not done that. I don't know wha you mean by menu line. Thanks again, Rick Hi Rick again. The default position for the toolbar is to be free-floating so that you can drag it around the screen even right into the middle. This might be the best way for you to have the toolbar now i think about it. I think you already have the toolbar docked at the left of the screen so that it is attached to the edge of the screen and appears as a single row/column stretching from top-to-bottom rather than as a compact box floating over the document. Language evolves over time and the normal usage of the word dock is now somewhat different but there are still several different meanings of the term. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: keep open table tool bar
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 2:56 AM, Avraham Hanadariavhanad...@gmail.com wrote: The fact that the table tool bar opens when I am in a table, but disappears whenever I move to surrounding parts of the page makes the entire page jump up and down in a most disturbing manner. I use tables a lot and would be very happy if I could keep the table tool bar open all the time. I have tried all sorts of settings, but nothing I have tried works. Please! Can someone suggest how the table tool bar could be kept open on a permanent basis? I, too, find it irritant. I dock the table, image and other similar toolbars to the bottom of the screen so my text doesn't dance around when I move the cursor in and out of tables (and numbering lists...). As for installing some of those icons permanently, I have done once what is the second best thing for a toolbar that I often use, the bullets and numbering toolbar: – In a personal toolbar, I install a copy of the icons I use regularly. Because it's a personal toolbar, it stays on the screen as long as I want it. – I have emptied the bullets and numbering toolbar so there is only one icon in it. I have docked it to he right side of the standard toolbar. The result: My personal toolbar, which almost mimics the original bullets and numbering toolbar is always there on the left side of the screen, along with a few formatting icons. The bullets and numbering toolbar pops in and out, but it's only one icon long and sits to the right of the standard toolbar, so my text doesn't dance. -- Michel Gagnon – mic...@mgagnon.net mailto:mic...@mgagnon.net Montréal (Québec, Canada) – mgagnon.net http://mgagnon.net -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to users+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/users/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***