RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-21 Thread Rene Kluwen
So what is your downstream smsc protocol? SMPP? AT2? SS7?

-Original Message-
From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net] 
Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 23:48
To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.

We are a CDMA Cellular Carrier and sometimes need to send a broadcast SMS to
our subscribers...


Thanks,

Aldo Zavala



- Original Message -
From: Rene Kluwen
[mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
To: 'Aldo Zavala'
[mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010
14:45:26 -0700
Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.


 Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages,
then
 it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
 network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
 broadcasts.
 
 == Rene
 
 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf
 Of Aldo Zavala
 Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
 To: users@kannel.org
 Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
 Kannel to send a broadcast SMS? 
 
 I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
 Sorry if you received this twice...
 
 
 Aldo
 
 
 
 






RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-21 Thread Aldo Zavala
It is SMPP, I was thinking on pull a Subscribers list from our Provisioning 
Middleware, then create a script that submit like 25-30 SMS per second in order 
to not overkill the SMC.


Thanks,

Aldo Zavala
24/7   (760).890.4221
Mobile (760).556.5050
Office (760).234.0015


- Original Message -
From: Rene Kluwen
[mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
To: 'Aldo Zavala'
[mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2010
04:23:08 -0700
Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.


 So what is your downstream smsc protocol? SMPP? AT2? SS7?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net] 
 Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 23:48
 To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 We are a CDMA Cellular Carrier and sometimes need to send a broadcast SMS to
 our subscribers...
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Aldo Zavala
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rene Kluwen
 [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
 To: 'Aldo Zavala'
 [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
 Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010
 14:45:26 -0700
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 
  Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages,
 then
  it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
  network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
  broadcasts.
  
  == Rene
  
  -Original Message-
  From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf
  Of Aldo Zavala
  Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
  To: users@kannel.org
  Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
  
  Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
  Kannel to send a broadcast SMS? 
  
  I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
  Sorry if you received this twice...
  
  
  Aldo
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 



RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-21 Thread Rene Kluwen
If you are a cellular carrier: Why don't you use SS7 to send broadcast
messages?
If they is an smpp proxy in between: Check your provider about a possible
TLV that allows you to send broadcast messages.

== Rene

-Original Message-
From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010 16:35
To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.

It is SMPP, I was thinking on pull a Subscribers list from our Provisioning
Middleware, then create a script that submit like 25-30 SMS per second in
order to not overkill the SMC.


Thanks,

Aldo Zavala
24/7   (760).890.4221
Mobile (760).556.5050
Office (760).234.0015


- Original Message -
From: Rene Kluwen
[mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
To: 'Aldo Zavala'
[mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2010
04:23:08 -0700
Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.


 So what is your downstream smsc protocol? SMPP? AT2? SS7?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net] 
 Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 23:48
 To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 We are a CDMA Cellular Carrier and sometimes need to send a broadcast SMS
to
 our subscribers...
 
 
 Thanks,
 
 Aldo Zavala
 
 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rene Kluwen
 [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
 To: 'Aldo Zavala'
 [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
 Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010
 14:45:26 -0700
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 
  Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages,
 then
  it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
  network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
  broadcasts.
  
  == Rene
  
  -Original Message-
  From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On
Behalf
  Of Aldo Zavala
  Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
  To: users@kannel.org
  Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
  
  Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
  Kannel to send a broadcast SMS? 
  
  I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
  Sorry if you received this twice...
  
  
  Aldo
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 






Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-21 Thread Elton Hoxha
As far as I understand, Aldo wants to implement Bulk SMS application
using Kannel, It has not to do with Cell Broadcast. So SS7 and other
Core Network related protocols are irelevant.
The script can be created in your application side, retrieving
subscriber list from DB, then calling HTTP interface that Kannel
provides.

About TPS limitation, you can control it in your script.

Regards
Elton

On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Rene Kluwen rene.klu...@chimit.nl wrote:
 If you are a cellular carrier: Why don't you use SS7 to send broadcast
 messages?
 If they is an smpp proxy in between: Check your provider about a possible
 TLV that allows you to send broadcast messages.

 == Rene

 -Original Message-
 From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010 16:35
 To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.

 It is SMPP, I was thinking on pull a Subscribers list from our Provisioning
 Middleware, then create a script that submit like 25-30 SMS per second in
 order to not overkill the SMC.


 Thanks,

 Aldo Zavala
 24/7   (760).890.4221
 Mobile (760).556.5050
 Office (760).234.0015


 - Original Message -
 From: Rene Kluwen
 [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
 To: 'Aldo Zavala'
 [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
 Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2010
 04:23:08 -0700
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.


 So what is your downstream smsc protocol? SMPP? AT2? SS7?

 -Original Message-
 From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net]
 Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 23:48
 To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.

 We are a CDMA Cellular Carrier and sometimes need to send a broadcast SMS
 to
 our subscribers...


 Thanks,

 Aldo Zavala



 - Original Message -
 From: Rene Kluwen
 [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
 To: 'Aldo Zavala'
 [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
 Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010
 14:45:26 -0700
 Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.


  Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages,
 then
  it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
  network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
  broadcasts.
 
  == Rene
 
  -Original Message-
  From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On
 Behalf
  Of Aldo Zavala
  Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
  To: users@kannel.org
  Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
  Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
  Kannel to send a broadcast SMS?
 
  I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
  Sorry if you received this twice...
 
 
  Aldo
 
 
 
 












Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-21 Thread Aldo Zavala
Thanks a lot for ths clarification I have started to get a little bit 
confused... =)

Yes, I have access to DB and to Application side. I will design and implement a 
script that first gather the desired SMS Users group and then submits SMS's to 
that list using the Kannel HTTP Interface in chunks of 25-30 TPS... Thanks a 
lot for the explanations guys!!

One last thing, is there a given kannel HTTP built in method to send to 
multiple numbers? Or should I invoke the method one by one?


Thanks,

Aldo Zavala


- Original Message -
From: Elton Hoxha
[mailto:elt...@gmail.com]
To: Rene Kluwen [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
Cc:
Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
Sent: Tue, 21 Sep
2010 09:26:03 -0700
Subject: Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help
please.


 As far as I understand, Aldo wants to implement Bulk SMS application
 using Kannel, It has not to do with Cell Broadcast. So SS7 and other
 Core Network related protocols are irelevant.
 The script can be created in your application side, retrieving
 subscriber list from DB, then calling HTTP interface that Kannel
 provides.
 
 About TPS limitation, you can control it in your script.
 
 Regards
 Elton
 
 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Rene Kluwen rene.klu...@chimit.nl wrote:
  If you are a cellular carrier: Why don't you use SS7 to send broadcast
  messages?
  If they is an smpp proxy in between: Check your provider about a possible
  TLV that allows you to send broadcast messages.
 
  == Rene
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010 16:35
  To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
  It is SMPP, I was thinking on pull a Subscribers list from our
 Provisioning
  Middleware, then create a script that submit like 25-30 SMS per second in
  order to not overkill the SMC.
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Aldo Zavala
  24/7   (760).890.4221
  Mobile (760).556.5050
  Office (760).234.0015
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rene Kluwen
  [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
  To: 'Aldo Zavala'
  [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
  Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2010
  04:23:08 -0700
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 
  So what is your downstream smsc protocol? SMPP? AT2? SS7?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net]
  Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 23:48
  To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
  We are a CDMA Cellular Carrier and sometimes need to send a broadcast SMS
  to
  our subscribers...
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Aldo Zavala
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rene Kluwen
  [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
  To: 'Aldo Zavala'
  [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
  Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010
  14:45:26 -0700
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 
   Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages,
  then
   it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
   network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
   broadcasts.
  
   == Rene
  
   -Original Message-
   From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On
  Behalf
   Of Aldo Zavala
   Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
   To: users@kannel.org
   Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
  
   Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that
 allows
   Kannel to send a broadcast SMS?
  
   I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it
 again.
   Sorry if you received this twice...
  
  
   Aldo
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-21 Thread Elton Hoxha
yes you can, separating each entry (destination) with space (' ', '+'
url-encoded). For more check the user guide.



On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Aldo Zavala a...@cleartalk.net wrote:
 Thanks a lot for ths clarification I have started to get a little bit 
 confused... =)

 Yes, I have access to DB and to Application side. I will design and implement 
 a script that first gather the desired SMS Users group and then submits SMS's 
 to that list using the Kannel HTTP Interface in chunks of 25-30 TPS... Thanks 
 a lot for the explanations guys!!

 One last thing, is there a given kannel HTTP built in method to send to 
 multiple numbers? Or should I invoke the method one by one?


 Thanks,

 Aldo Zavala


 - Original Message -
 From: Elton Hoxha
 [mailto:elt...@gmail.com]
 To: Rene Kluwen [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
 Cc:
 Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
 Sent: Tue, 21 Sep
 2010 09:26:03 -0700
 Subject: Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help
 please.


 As far as I understand, Aldo wants to implement Bulk SMS application
 using Kannel, It has not to do with Cell Broadcast. So SS7 and other
 Core Network related protocols are irelevant.
 The script can be created in your application side, retrieving
 subscriber list from DB, then calling HTTP interface that Kannel
 provides.

 About TPS limitation, you can control it in your script.

 Regards
 Elton

 On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 5:26 PM, Rene Kluwen rene.klu...@chimit.nl wrote:
  If you are a cellular carrier: Why don't you use SS7 to send broadcast
  messages?
  If they is an smpp proxy in between: Check your provider about a possible
  TLV that allows you to send broadcast messages.
 
  == Rene
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010 16:35
  To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
  It is SMPP, I was thinking on pull a Subscribers list from our
 Provisioning
  Middleware, then create a script that submit like 25-30 SMS per second in
  order to not overkill the SMC.
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Aldo Zavala
  24/7   (760).890.4221
  Mobile (760).556.5050
  Office (760).234.0015
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rene Kluwen
  [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
  To: 'Aldo Zavala'
  [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
  Sent: Tue, 21 Sep 2010
  04:23:08 -0700
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 
  So what is your downstream smsc protocol? SMPP? AT2? SS7?
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Aldo Zavala [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net]
  Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 23:48
  To: Rene Kluwen; users@kannel.org
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
  We are a CDMA Cellular Carrier and sometimes need to send a broadcast SMS
  to
  our subscribers...
 
 
  Thanks,
 
  Aldo Zavala
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rene Kluwen
  [mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
  To: 'Aldo Zavala'
  [mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
  Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010
  14:45:26 -0700
  Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 
   Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages,
  then
   it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
   network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
   broadcasts.
  
   == Rene
  
   -Original Message-
   From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On
  Behalf
   Of Aldo Zavala
   Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
   To: users@kannel.org
   Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
  
   Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that
 allows
   Kannel to send a broadcast SMS?
  
   I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it
 again.
   Sorry if you received this twice...
  
  
   Aldo
  
  
  
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 





Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-21 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Tue, 2010-09-21 at 09:38, Aldo Zavala wrote:
 Thanks a lot for ths clarification I have started to get a little bit 
 confused... =)
 
 Yes, I have access to DB and to Application side. I will design and implement 
 a script that first gather the desired SMS Users group and then submits SMS's 
 to that list using the Kannel HTTP Interface in chunks of 25-30 TPS... Thanks 
 a lot for the explanations guys!!
 
 One last thing, is there a given kannel HTTP built in method to send to 
 multiple numbers? Or should I invoke the method one by one?

It is explained in userguide, section Running SMS Gateway, parameter
_to_
 
to   phone number list 
  Phone number of the receiver. To send to multiple receivers, separate
  each entry with space (' ', '+' url-encoded) - but note that this can
  be deactivated via sendsms-chars in the 'smsbox' group.
---

I think it is not possible to send to more than ten MSISDNs in one
request, but I'm not sure.


BTW, is it so hard to read and understand userguide?

-- 
Kind regards,  Milan
--
Arvanta, IT Securityhttp://www.arvanta.net
Please do not send me e-mail containing HTML code.



Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-20 Thread Aldo Zavala
Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows Kannel 
to send a broadcast SMS? 

I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again. Sorry 
if you received this twice...


Aldo



Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-20 Thread Emmanuel CHANSON
Hello Aldo,

For this you can create some shell/PHP/ script that use the HTTP CGI
interface of smsbox to send broadcast SMS or use a Web GUI that have this
functionnality.

Elite SMS (licensed): http://www.elite-sms-software.com
PlaySMS (free) 0.9.5 http://playsms.sourceforge.net/ or
http://playsms-km2.mediacom.nc/
Others..

Emmanuel

2010/9/20 Aldo Zavala a...@cleartalk.net

 Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
 Kannel to send a broadcast SMS?

 I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
 Sorry if you received this twice...


 Aldo




Re: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-20 Thread Luís Tiago Rico
Hello,

Another simple way to do a massive broadcast is to have SQLBOX and insert
your messages directlly in the database. That's it!


2010/9/20 Aldo Zavala a...@cleartalk.net

 Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
 Kannel to send a broadcast SMS?

 I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
 Sorry if you received this twice...


 Aldo




-- 
Luís Tiago Rico

*Present Technologies*
Rua D. João de Castro, Lote 12
Urbanização Quinta da Fonte
3030-384 Coimbra
Portugal


RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-20 Thread Rene Kluwen
Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages, then
it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
broadcasts.

== Rene

-Original Message-
From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf
Of Aldo Zavala
Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
To: users@kannel.org
Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.

Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
Kannel to send a broadcast SMS? 

I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
Sorry if you received this twice...


Aldo






RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel.... help please.

2010-09-20 Thread Aldo Zavala
We are a CDMA Cellular Carrier and sometimes need to send a broadcast SMS to 
our subscribers...


Thanks,

Aldo Zavala



- Original Message -
From: Rene Kluwen
[mailto:rene.klu...@chimit.nl]
To: 'Aldo Zavala'
[mailto:a...@cleartalk.net], users@kannel.org
Sent: Mon, 20 Sep 2010
14:45:26 -0700
Subject: RE: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.


 Not so sure what you mean... but.. if you mean cell broadcast messages, then
 it depends on your provider if they support it. It should be a
 network-provider. I don't think they allow aggregators to do cell
 broadcasts.
 
 == Rene
 
 -Original Message-
 From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf
 Of Aldo Zavala
 Sent: Monday, 20 September, 2010 20:10
 To: users@kannel.org
 Subject: Broadcast SMS with Kannel help please.
 
 Hi, Is there some script already done or a built in function that allows
 Kannel to send a broadcast SMS? 
 
 I am not sure if my previous email was blocked so I am sending it again.
 Sorry if you received this twice...
 
 
 Aldo