Re: installing and running memcache under fedora 12?

2010-02-10 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Sam Sharpe wrote:

 On 9 February 2010 22:17, Robert P. J. Day rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote:
  Finally we need to get the Memcached extension for PHP installed.
  Again using yum:
  yum install php-pecl-memcache
 
   we *need* to get that extension for PHP installed?  really?  but
  if it's necessary, why is it not listed as a dependency for
  memcached? what if i *don't* install it?  how does memcached work
  *then*?
 
   just curious about that lack of dependency.

 Memcache can cache lots of things in lots of ways, not just PHP. If
 you want to cache via Memcache using PHP (which is what that article
 is about) then you need php-pecl-memcache.

 For example, lets say I have a big beefy MySQL serving machine with
 oodles of spare memory. I also have 4 webservers. I want to use a
 centralised memcache installation on the DB server, but I'm going to
 access the objects from the webservers.

 In this case, the DB server needs only memcached and the webservers
 need only php-pecl-memcache - neither is a direct dependency on the
 other.

 Make sense?

  ironically, that's exactly the situation i'm looking at here -- one
system acting as a webserver, the other as a mysql db server.  both of
them currently have *both* packages installed (memcached and
php-pecl-memcache) which, if i read you correctly, is slightly
overkill, and i could remove memcached from the webserver and the php
package from the db server.  is that about right?

  of course, if a single system was acting as both web and db server,
it would need both.

rday
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Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13

2010-02-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:31:41 -0500, Lyos wrote:

  I have taken ownership of gnome-applet-netspeed, as I use it as well.
 
  However... I need a co-maintainer who is familiar with C/C++.
  Anyone willing to step up?
   
  Familiarity with C/C++ (the netspeed applet is written in C) doesn't
  imply familiarity with the APIs of GTK+, GLib, Pango and other libraries.
 
  In one gnome-applet-netspeed bz ticket I've added a link to a
  ticket where gnome-screensaver crashed in exactly the same way in
  gtkiconcash code. Perhaps due to memory corruption, but maybe it's
  the same bug afterall - or a shared problem.
 
 
 True.
 It sounds like you're at least semi-familiar with the issue.
 Would you be willing to help maintain this package?

There have been a few other people who want to keep it alive and who
actually use it.

It's seems to be unmaintained upstream. There are unanswered tickets in
upstream's tracker. It looks as if there are more issues than what has
been reported in Fedora's tracker. = Program would benefit from an active
developer.

All I've done was to take a brief look at the source for a first
impression of code quality. And to look for obvious mistakes.

There is enough that current packagers could do. Browse other dist's bug
trackers/packages to look for existing patches. Create a list of what
doesn't work, separate it from feature requests. Determine test-cases for
reproducing crashes, possible specific to wireless networking. Browse bz
tickets for dependencies to find out where the memory corruption might
come from. Try to talk to the gnome-screensaver package maintainer to ask
what he thinks about the gtkiconcache crash.

Though, there is no immediate need to spend time on this package as long
as it's unmaintained upstream and as long as crashes are not reproducible.
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[Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
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Subject: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:29:27 -0500

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The Fedora Project recently issued an update to the dnssec-conf
package, to fix an issue that caused Fedora 11 and 12 systems using
BIND (named) to put an inordinately heavy load on RIPE nameservers.
However, this update has been found to break some BIND configurations
as seen in this bug:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=563232

The problem occurs in these packages:

 dnssec-conf-1.21-3.fc11
 dnssec-conf-1.21-7.fc12

To determine if your system is affected, run the following command:

 rpm -q dnssec-conf

If one of the above package descriptors does not appear, your system
is not affected and you may safely ignore this message.  If you are
affected, please continue reading.

== Workaround ==

If you have already accepted this update, you can downgrade the
package and start the failed BIND (named) daemon again using these
commands:

 su -c 'yum downgrade dnssec-conf'
 su -c 'service named start'

== Solution ==

System owners running BIND name servers on Fedora 11 or 12 systems are
advised not to accept the specific dnssec-conf pacakge updates listed
above.  There are several ways to avoid these specific updates.

* If you use the PackageKit graphical client, or another graphical
  client, deselect the dnssec-conf update in the dialog that lists
  package updates.

* If you use the yum command-line client, use this command to exclude
  dnssec-conf from the list of packages to be updated:

  su -c 'yum --exclude=dnssec-conf update'

== Remediation ==

A new update is being prepared to address this problem for Fedora 11
and 12 users, and will be pushed to our mirrors as soon as possible.
Users who are not running BIND nameservers (named) on their Fedora 11
and 12 can safely disregard this notice.  When the new updates are
pushed, a follow-up announcement will be made here.  At that time,
affected system owners can safely accept the replacement updates.
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Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 09:08 +0100, Henry Ritzlmayr wrote:
 Am Montag, den 08.02.2010, 10:12 -0430 schrieb Patrick O'Callaghan:
  I know ipv6 is going to be in all our futures, but for the moment it's
  just a PITA. My ISP doesn't support it and my /var/log/messages is
  overflowing with complaints from named (I run the basic caching
  nameserver configuration).
  
  There's lots of variegated advice around on turning off ipv6, much of it
  out of date. What's the canonical way of doing this in Fedora (12), or
  at least getting named to shut up about it?
  
  poc
  
 
 To disable ipv6 on F12 on the next reboot just add the line
 
 net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
 
 to your /etc/sysctl.conf file.
 
 To disable it right away issue the command
 
 sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
 
 To disable ipv6 on just one interface (for example eth0) issue the
 command
 
 sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.eth0.disable_ipv6=1
 
 or enter the line 
 
 net.ipv6.conf.eth0.disable_ipv6 = 1 
 
 in your /etc/sysctl.conf file for the next reboot

Thank you. That looks like the Right Way (tm) to do it.

poc

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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Todd Zullinger
Aaron Konstam wrote:
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 Subject: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12
 Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2010 17:29:27 -0500

It's probably worth noting that this list is in the To: field above,
so we already got a copy of this. :)

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Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-10 Thread Timothy Murphy
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 To disable ipv6 on F12 on the next reboot just add the line
 
 net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
 
 to your /etc/sysctl.conf file.
 
 To disable it right away issue the command
 
 sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1

 Thank you. That looks like the Right Way (tm) to do it.

As a matter of interest,
why do you prefer this to modifying ifcfg-eth?
in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ,
which was suggested earlier?

Do both work, I wonder?

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Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:10 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 
  To disable ipv6 on F12 on the next reboot just add the line
  
  net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
  
  to your /etc/sysctl.conf file.
  
  To disable it right away issue the command
  
  sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
 
  Thank you. That looks like the Right Way (tm) to do it.
 
 As a matter of interest,
 why do you prefer this to modifying ifcfg-eth?
 in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ,
 which was suggested earlier?
 
 Do both work, I wonder?

I prefer changing something in /etc/sysctl.conf because it's clearly
where this kind of configuration change belongs. Changing ifcfg-eth0 may
or may not work at the moment -- I'm guessing it probably does -- but
it's a kludge that depends on the functioning of a specific script which
in some future version could change.

It's a judgment call based on many years experience of messing with
systems and having the floor move under my feet :-)

poc

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R:

2010-02-10 Thread enzo....@fastwebnet.it


Messaggio originale
Da: enzo@fastwebnet.it
Data: 10/02/2010 16.22
A: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Ogg: 

when connected I see following messages connected to wireless connectio
n
  in Messages, that I don't see in another machine on same network. Wha
t
 is their meaning??


Feb 10 16:02:23 localhost NetworkManager: info  (wlan1): supplicant c
o
nnection state:  completed - disconnected
Feb 10 16:02:23 localhost NetworkManager: info  (wlan1): supplicant c
o
nnection state:  disconnected - scanning
Feb 10 16:02:24 localhost NetworkManager: info  (wlan1): supplicant c
o
nnection state:  scanning - associating
Feb 10 16:02:24 localhost NetworkManager: info  (wlan1): supplicant c
o
nnection state:  associating - associated
Feb 10 16:02:25 localhost NetworkManager: info  (wlan1): supplicant c
o
nnection state:  associated - 4-way handshake
Feb 10 16:02:25 localhost NetworkManager: info  (wlan1): supplicant c
o
nnection state:  4-way handshake - group handshake
Feb 10 16:02:25 localhost NetworkManager: info  (wlan1): supplicant c
o
nnection state:  group handshake - completed

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we have noted that it happens only when video of Skype is running. Why?

Enzo

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Re: Packages to be removed for Fedora 13

2010-02-10 Thread Tim
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:32 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 To follow the default route is the behaviour for the Default
 device selection. Selecting a specific device from the list of
 available devices turns of that feature.

Yes, it's obviously meant to work that way, but it wasn't.  It'd get
stuck at one of the changes, and not recover.  Occasionally, I'd find it
monitoring the local loopback network.  ;-\

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Re: yum repo

2010-02-10 Thread Julian Aloofi
Am 10.02.2010 17:15, schrieb Rashedul Arefin:
 Dear All:
 
 I am very new to Fedora. I have installed fedora 12. Is there any way to
 install rpm packages with dependencies from local drive? I have
 downloaded many rpm packages, but I dont know how to install these.
 Any help would be appreciable.
 
 Regards
 Arefin
 

You can use the 'yum localinstall' command for that, or just click on
the packages and a GUI dialog will pop up.
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Re: radeon driver / fc12 / ati hd 4770

2010-02-10 Thread gary artim
Thanks Tom --

I'll give it a shot. Any other options/opinions are welcomed -- l'll
gladly put a wiki up explaining how and what works if i can make that
happen -- don't you just love video cards!?

-- Gary

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 8:54 AM, Tom Horsley tom.hors...@att.net wrote:
 On Wed, 10 Feb 2010 08:23:09 -0800
 gary artim wrote:

 Any other options I could try to fix this? I'd be happy as a clam if
 it just worked right, no 3d, just a good snappy screen.

 On my system at work with a radeon HD card, I finally switched to
 the radeonhd driver and by disabling enough options, got it to
 be reliable in 2d. I added nomodeset to kernel options and made
 an xorg.conf file with this for the driver:

 Section Device
        Identifier  Videocard0
        Option      DRI off
        Option      AccelMethod shadowfb
        Option      NoRandr
        Option      UnverifiedFeatures off
        Driver      radeonhd
 EndSection

 This works with my HD 2400 PRO, but who knows if it will work
 for anthing else :-).
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Cheese seems to work strange

2010-02-10 Thread Antonio M
When I start cheese on a fresh installation, we  have only multiple
photos option available, we cannot change to 0 in number of photos and
photo interval.
Sometimes, cheese gets crazy with continuos fire and we hear laughing.
Is it really crazy?? :-)
Webcam is a Pixart Imaging Inc, ID 093a:2510 and kernel module is v4l1_compat

Tnx for help

Antonio Montagnani
Skype : antoniomontag
SIP: antoniomon...@ekiga.net
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Re: radeon driver / fc12 / ati hd 4770

2010-02-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:07:58 -0800,
  gary artim gar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Tom --
 
 I'll give it a shot. Any other options/opinions are welcomed -- l'll
 gladly put a wiki up explaining how and what works if i can make that
 happen -- don't you just love video cards!?

Please make sure there are bugzilla entries for the problems you encountered
using the ati driver. Even if you need to use radeonhd to get things to work,
the bugs are more likely to get fixed if the developers are told about them.
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RX performance degradation with e1000e in Linux 2.6.31 / F12

2010-02-10 Thread Kelvin Ku
After upgrading from Linux 2.6.30 (Fedora Core 11) to 2.6.31 (F12), I am
experiencing significant packet loss on an Intel 82574L NIC running on the
e1000e driver. I was not experiencing this with kernel 2.6.30. I notice 2.6.30
uses e1000e version 0.3.3.4-k4 whereas 2.6.31 uses version 1.0.2-k2.

I have tried setting IntMode to 0, 1, and 2 and InterruptThrottleRate to 0, 1,
3 (the default), 1000, 5000, 1, and 10. I've also tried booting with
the noapic kernel parameter.

I am testing with ttcp, sending 10 1450 byte UDP packets at about 910 Mbps.
With InterruptThrottleRate at 1, 3, 5000, or 1, I see the following
behaviour on the receiver side:

ttcp -u -4 -l 1450 -s -fm -r
ttcp-r: buflen=1450, nbuf=2048, align=16384/0, port=5001  udp
ttcp-r: socket
ttcp-r: 98486900 bytes in 1.22 real seconds = 617.22 Mbit/sec +++
ttcp-r: 67924 I/O calls, msec/call = 0.02, calls/sec = 55794.64
ttcp-r: 0.0user 0.0sys 0:01real 0% 0i+0d 0maxrss 0+0pf 4963+3csw

So in total (14500 - 98486900)/1450 = 32078 out of 10 packets were
dropped, or about 32%.

This is the difference between /proc/interrupts (the change in each counter)
before and after the test. lan0 is the interface being tested. Notice that
there are a significant number of interrupts on the sequence error interrupt;
I'm guessing that's 57:

 55:  0  0  0   8603 PCI-MSI-edge 
 56:  0  0  0 25 PCI-MSI-edge Q�V 
 57:   4868  0  0  0 PCI-MSI-edge lan0 
 67:  0  0  2  0 PCI-MSI-edge ���...@�
 68:  0  0  0  0 PCI-MSI-edge 
 69:  0  0  0  0 PCI-MSI-edge lan1 

This is the difference between the output from 'ethtool -S lan0' before and
after the test; only fields which changed are shown:

: rx_broadcast:  585730 - 581046 = 4684
: rx_bytes:  931068459 - 822452567 = 108615892
: rx_csum_offload_good:  650149 - 577551 = 72598
: rx_long_byte_count:  931068459 - 822452567 = 108615892
: rx_missed_errors:  31003 - 6 = 30997
: rx_packets:  655692 - 583072 = 72620
: rx_smbus:  5784 - 5763 = 21
: tx_broadcast:  972 - 969 = 3
: tx_bytes:  388453 - 385439 = 3014
: tx_packets:  3025 - 3012 = 13

Notice the large rx_missed_errors count which indicates NIC FIFO or PCI bus
exhaustion.

If I disable interrupt throttling or set the limit very high, e.g., 10, the
same test generates about 65,000 data interrupts and 93,000 error interrupts
and rx_missed_errors increases by 34,000. This suggests to me that the NIC is
attempting to raise an interrupt for every packet received.

An Intel 82576 NIC in the same system, running on the igb driver, is performing
OK under 2.6.31 (0 to 0.1% packet loss). For comparison, the same UDP test
generates about 6000 interrupts on the 82576.

dmesg, dmidecode, ethtool, lspci, 'netstat -s', and /proc/interrupts output is
attached.

N.B. I tried removing the 82576 NIC from the system before testing as well; no
change.

- Kelvin


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Corrupt /proc/interrupts with e1000e

2010-02-10 Thread Kelvin Ku
I see the following in /proc/interrupts

 55:  0  0  0 338331   PCI-MSI-edge  lan0-rx-0
 56:  0  0  0   2664   PCI-MSI-edge  lan0-tx-0
 57:  47230  0  0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  lan0
 58:427  0  0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  �
 59:  0277  0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  ���
 60:  0  4  0  0   PCI-MSI-edge  lan1

Notice the corrupt entries for IRQs 58 and 59. Sometimes 55 and 56 are corrupt 
as well. Any idea why this is happening? I am running Fedora Core 12.

$ sudo ethtool -i lan0
driver: e1000e
version: 1.0.2-k2
firmware-version: 1.8-0
bus-info: :06:00.0

$ uname -r
2.6.31.12-174.2.3.fc12.x86_64

This is the NIC:

$ lspci

06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82574L Gigabit Network Connection

- Kelvin
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Re: radeon driver / fc12 / ati hd 4770

2010-02-10 Thread gary artim
will do.

On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Bruno Wolff III br...@wolff.to wrote:
 On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:07:58 -0800,
  gary artim gar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Thanks Tom --

 I'll give it a shot. Any other options/opinions are welcomed -- l'll
 gladly put a wiki up explaining how and what works if i can make that
 happen -- don't you just love video cards!?

 Please make sure there are bugzilla entries for the problems you encountered
 using the ati driver. Even if you need to use radeonhd to get things to work,
 the bugs are more likely to get fixed if the developers are told about them.

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Re: yum repo

2010-02-10 Thread Mr Gabriel
If this is your first experience with a yum based distro, the it might be an 
idea to google how to install packages via yum in fedora. 

Rpm is a format, and not just for fedora. Take some time to understand the 
relationship between your client system (your fedora box), and yum 
repositories, (google is your friend here)

I think that will help your understanding of how it all comes together. 
---
Kind Regards,
Mr Gabriel (bberry mail)

-Original Message-
From: Rashedul Arefin rashed...@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2010 23:15:07 
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: yum repo

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2010-02-10 Thread Sawrub
Hi All,

I have been facing an issue with Thinderbird and its sync-up Google 
Chrome for a couple of days. Setting Google Chrome as the default 
browser and clicking any URL in a mail under Thunderbird opens up Google 
Chrome with Home page, but the URL is not loaded, while when i do the 
same with Mozilla Firefox , the instance is started and the URL is loaded.
Also if there is an instance of Google Chrome runnig, clicking of a URL 
will not open up a new tab in the current session compared to Firefox 
but besides will be opening up a new session with home page loaded.Can 
anyone guide me how to solve this.
Just to mention, trying to open a URL appearing in the Gnome Terminal 
works perfectly fine, as the same loads up in Google Chrome just as 
expected.

Installed Packages
firefox.x86_64  3.5.6-1.fc12   
@updates
gnome-terminal.x86_64   2.28.2-1.fc12   
@updates
google-chrome-beta.x86_64   4.0.249.43-34537   
@google64
thunderbird.x86_64  3.0.1-1.fc12   
@updates

The same issue have been fixed for Thunderbird 2 by changing the 
settings in the Config Editor, but the same is not working in F12 and 
Thunderbird 3. [http://tinyurl.com/yawfk38]

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Thunderbird and Google Chrome

2010-02-10 Thread Sawrub
Hi All,

I have been facing an issue with Thinderbird and its sync-up Google 
Chrome. Setting Google Chrome as the default browser and clicking any 
URL in a mail under Thunderbird opens up Google Chrome with Home page, 
but the URL is not loaded, while when i do the same with Mozilla Firefox 
, the instance is started and the URL is loaded.
Also if there is an instance of Google Chrome runnig, clicking of a URL 
will not open up a new tab in the current session compared to Firefox 
but besides will be opening up a new session with home page loaded.Can 
anyone guide me how to solve this.
Just to mention, trying to open a URL appearing in the Gnome Terminal 
works perfectly fine, as the same loads up in Google Chrome just as 
expected.

Installed Packages
firefox.x86_64  3.5.6-1.fc12   
@updates
gnome-terminal.x86_64   2.28.2-1.fc12   
@updates
google-chrome-beta.x86_64   4.0.249.43-34537   
@google64
thunderbird.x86_64  3.0.1-1.fc12   
@updates

The same issue have been fixed for Thunderbird 2 by changing the 
settings in the Config Editor, but the same is not working in F12 and 
Thunderbird 3. [http://tinyurl.com/yawfk38]

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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:50 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 If you have already accepted this update, you can downgrade the
 package and start the failed BIND (named) daemon again using these
 commands:
 
  su -c 'yum downgrade dnssec-conf'
  su -c 'service named start'

Of course if you've already accepted the update you no longer have a
working network. Better hope there's a cached copy of the previous
version lying around ...

poc

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Re: RX performance degradation with e1000e in Linux 2.6.31 / F12

2010-02-10 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Kelvin Ku wrote:
 After upgrading from Linux 2.6.30 (Fedora Core 11) to 2.6.31 (F12), I am
 experiencing significant packet loss on an Intel 82574L NIC running on the
 e1000e driver. I was not experiencing this with kernel 2.6.30. I notice 2.6.30
 uses e1000e version 0.3.3.4-k4 whereas 2.6.31 uses version 1.0.2-k2.

And the driver version would be the significance. It appears there are 
(very) serious issues with the e1000e driver and the 82574L chip. I'm 
having to use 2.6.30 on a F12 server with an 82574L to have network 
connectivity at all. The issue has been reported[1] and it is being 
investigated. We had a hard time convincing Intel it wasn't a 
motherboard manufacturer problem.

[1] 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2908463group_id=42302atid=447449
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Oddity in bodhi?

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Cloaked

There is something I don't understand about a particular package and its
comments in bodhi.  Not too long ago there was a 2.6.32 kernel package
available for testing for f12.  I tested it and commented on it in bodhi. 
Now it appears to have disappeared from bodhi altogether - I can't find it
by searching, and the original url that went to the entry with comments no
longer works - are there occasions when specific entries in bodhi are
removed? If so why are they removed? Yet the rpms are still in
updates-testing!

I see that there are .32 kernel packages being built in koji - none has
appeared as available in updates-testing - does anyone know what the current
situation is with .32 kernels for f12 (and f11) ?
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question about Geany

2010-02-10 Thread A. Racca
Hi list:

I created a template file to write my Fortran 77 programs when using
Geany.

It happens that Geany doesn't highlight the Fortran sentences when using
tabs as indentation, but it does when using spaces, even though the
selected indentation type is tabs. I don't like using spaces.

Here is a screenshot for a better explanation:
http://picasaweb.google.com/gracca/Cosas#5436703061731250226

Any thoughts?

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Re: question about Geany

2010-02-10 Thread Frank Cox

On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 17:56 -0200, Germán A. Racca wrote:
 I created a template file to write my Fortran 77 programs when using
 Geany.
 
 It happens that Geany doesn't highlight the Fortran sentences when
 using
 tabs as indentation, but it does when using spaces, even though the
 selected indentation type is tabs. I don't like using spaces.

http://www.geany.org/Support/Bugs
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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:32 -0500, Mail Lists wrote:
 On 02/10/2010 01:51 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
  On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:50 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  If you have already accepted this update, you can downgrade the
  package and start the failed BIND (named) daemon again using these
  commands:
 
   su -c 'yum downgrade dnssec-conf'
   su -c 'service named start'
  
  Of course if you've already accepted the update you no longer have a
  working network. Better hope there's a cached copy of the previous
  version lying around ...
  
  poc
  
 
  Or just turn off dnssec perhaps and start named ..

$ sudo dnssec-configure --dnssec=off --nocheck
error: unbound configuration not found

poc

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Re: Oddity in bodhi?

2010-02-10 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:52:39 -0800,
  Mike Cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  
  
  They seem to work for me. I am using them on an i686 and an x86_64 machine
  with
  F12 on them.
  
  
 
 That is great that the .32 kernels out of koji work - (me too) but can you
 see anything about them on bodhi?

When I search for kernel, I get 22 items return, none of which are 2.6.32
kernels.
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Re: Oddity in bodhi?

2010-02-10 Thread Mike Cloaked


Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 
 
 When I search for kernel, I get 22 items return, none of which are 2.6.32
 kernels.
 
 

Exactly!  That was why I posted about it originally...
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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Mail Lists
On 02/10/2010 04:24 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

  Or just turn off dnssec perhaps and start named ..
 
 $ sudo dnssec-configure --dnssec=off --nocheck
 error: unbound configuration not found
 
 poc
 

 I meant edit your named.conf file and remove it.

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question about partition mounted by hal

2010-02-10 Thread François Patte
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Bonjour,

For some reason (which I totally ignore...) hal mounts a partition on
/media/_1

I have 4 disks 2 main disks are for the system and data (raid-1 and lvm)
and 2 other disks (from previous install) they are used for backup and
other data.

One of these last disks (sdd) has a small partition (sdd1) which was a
former / when this disk was used for the system. The other partition
(sdd2) on this disk is lvm and mounted for backups.

hal mounts sdd1 on /media/_1

I don't know why and I don't know how

The only thing I can see is :

/dev/sdd1 on /media/_1 type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)

result of mount command.


I don't understand why hal mounts this partition and does not mount the
same one on sdc1 (on my 3rd disk)

Where can I find the config file which allow this mount?

Thank you.

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Re: RX performance degradation with e1000e in Linux 2.6.31 / F12

2010-02-10 Thread Kelvin Ku
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 12:56:47PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
 Kelvin Ku wrote:
  After upgrading from Linux 2.6.30 (Fedora Core 11) to 2.6.31 (F12), I am
  experiencing significant packet loss on an Intel 82574L NIC running on the
  e1000e driver. I was not experiencing this with kernel 2.6.30. I notice 
  2.6.30
  uses e1000e version 0.3.3.4-k4 whereas 2.6.31 uses version 1.0.2-k2.
 
 And the driver version would be the significance. It appears there are 
 (very) serious issues with the e1000e driver and the 82574L chip. I'm 
 having to use 2.6.30 on a F12 server with an 82574L to have network 
 connectivity at all. The issue has been reported[1] and it is being 
 investigated. We had a hard time convincing Intel it wasn't a 
 motherboard manufacturer problem.
 
 [1] 
 http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detailaid=2908463group_id=42302atid=447449
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Note that my RX performance issue arises with the latest Intel e1000e driver,
1.1.2-NAPI, and an older Intel driver, 0.5.18.3-NAPI, as well. I can't get an
even older version of the driver, 0.4.1.7, to compile on Linux 2.6.31, probably
because the kernel API has changed since that driver was released.

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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Aaron Konstam
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
 On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:50 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  If you have already accepted this update, you can downgrade the
  package and start the failed BIND (named) daemon again using these
  commands:
  
   su -c 'yum downgrade dnssec-conf'
   su -c 'service named start'
 
 Of course if you've already accepted the update you no longer have a
 working network. Better hope there's a cached copy of the previous
 version lying around ...
 
 poc
 

II installed the updates and my network was still working.
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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Steven Stern
On 02/10/2010 04:44 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
 On 02/10/2010 05:29 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 

 II installed the updates and my network was still working.
 
 
  It presumably only effects those who have local running f12 named as
 their sole source of DNS resolution (caching or otherwise) and who have
 dnssec turned on.
 
   Some have dnssec turned off for whatever reason they deemed best (me
 for example :-)
 
 

DNSSEC didn't have to be turned on. I got the error (named wouldn't
start), but here's named.conf:

dnssec-enable no;
dnssec-validation no;
dnssec-lookaside . trust-anchor dlv.isc.org.;

It had to do with doing an upgrade from F10 or F11 to F12.


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Re: Document Viewer can not open latest PDF?

2010-02-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
Tony Nelson wrote:
 On 10-02-08 10:20:42, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Alan Cox wrote:
 Well, the reason appears to be that cdrecord is not available in
 Fedora unless you install it yourself, Fedora has chosen to take 
 he respected cdrecord name and put wodim in its place. This seems 
 to me as ethical as selling replica Rolex watches, the user get 
 something other than what they expect.
 
 In which case please remmeber to do the following

 mv ssh openssh
 mv sshd opensshd
 mv cp gnucp
 mv ls gnuls 

 etc..
   
 Do you feel that any of these accept the commands of the original and 
 are incapable of correctly producing the desired result?

 Neither do I.

 But wodim can not claim that behavior, and so should be called by its 
 own name (and only that name, although I've used a few other names,
 too, after wasting media).
 
 Cdrecord cannot legally be distributed by anyone, due to license 
 problems.  Contact the author and complain.  Be aware that he is
 a difficult person who thinks he is as good a lawyer as he is a 
 sysadmin.
 
I seem to have failed to make the point, I'm not asking anyone to distribute 
cdrecord, just to stop distributing a partially broken program of the same 
name. 
Or linking that program to cdrecord, or in any way providing a non-functional 
program which fails on Blu-ray, and is unreliable at best on SVCD and DVD-DL.

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Re: Zen kernel, what are advantages if any?

2010-02-10 Thread Bill Davidsen
Kevin Kofler wrote:
 Antonio Olivares wrote:
 I have read a bit about the zen kernel

 http://zen-kernel.org/
 
 Looks like this is a fork of the kernel Linux which hopes for confusion with 
 Xen to grab people's attention.
 
 They're merging several patches. Some of the stuff they ship (e.g. btrfs) is 
 also shipped in the Fedora kernels and should be headed for upstream soon 
 (but e.g. btrfs is not ready for production use, it's not the default in 
 Fedora for a reason, we ship it only for testing purposes). Some other stuff 
 (I've noticed at least reiser4 and tuxonice) has been rejected outright and 
 is likely to never make it into the upstream or Fedora kernel, or at least 
 not without significant changes. And some of the stuff they merge is just 
 additional modules which could be built as out-of-tree modules just as well.
 
 I think the Fedora kernel maintainers have more expertise about what patches 
 are reliable enough for production use and maintainable in the long run than 
 those merge everything folks.
 
btrfs is not ready for prime time for sure.

As for TuxOnIce, you can hardly blame people for wanting software which will 
not 
only suspend but includes resume. Suspend/Hibernate are pretty broken, for many 
people TOI works.

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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 16:29 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:21 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
  On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 07:50 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote:
   If you have already accepted this update, you can downgrade the
   package and start the failed BIND (named) daemon again using these
   commands:
   
su -c 'yum downgrade dnssec-conf'
su -c 'service named start'
  
  Of course if you've already accepted the update you no longer have a
  working network. Better hope there's a cached copy of the previous
  version lying around ...
  
  poc
  
 
 II installed the updates and my network was still working.

Are you actually running a name server? If not, none of this matters.

poc

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Re: [Fwd: Notice: dnssec-conf updates in Fedora 11 and 12]

2010-02-10 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 17:39 -0600, Steven Stern wrote:
 On 02/10/2010 04:44 PM, Mail Lists wrote:
  On 02/10/2010 05:29 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote:
  
 
  II installed the updates and my network was still working.
  
  
   It presumably only effects those who have local running f12 named as
  their sole source of DNS resolution (caching or otherwise) and who have
  dnssec turned on.
  
Some have dnssec turned off for whatever reason they deemed best (me
  for example :-)
  
  
 
 DNSSEC didn't have to be turned on. I got the error (named wouldn't
 start), but here's named.conf:
 
 dnssec-enable no;
 dnssec-validation no;
 dnssec-lookaside . trust-anchor dlv.isc.org.;

Ditto. Even if I turn it off in named.conf I still get the error.

poc

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Re: Kde4 question re desktop menu items.

2010-02-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
George R Goffe wrote:
 I have been using kde3.6 and had changed the meaning of the 3 buttons on
 my mouse. I'm looking for the analogous feature in Kde4 but don't seem to
 be able to find it. Am I going blind or missing something?

What exactly are you trying to do? Swap left and right button? That's under 
Settings / System Settings / System Administration / Keyboard  Mouse / 
Mouse.

Kevin Kofler

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Re: Thinderbird and Google Chrome

2010-02-10 Thread Sawrub
On 02/11/2010 08:04 AM, Sawrub wrote:
 Hi All,

 I have been facing an issue with Thinderbird and its sync-up Google
 Chrome for a couple of days. Setting Google Chrome as the default
 browser and clicking any URL in a mail under Thunderbird opens up Google
 Chrome with Home page, but the URL is not loaded, while when i do the
 same with Mozilla Firefox , the instance is started and the URL is 
 loaded.
 Also if there is an instance of Google Chrome runnig, clicking of a URL
 will not open up a new tab in the current session compared to Firefox
 but besides will be opening up a new session with home page loaded.Can
 anyone guide me how to solve this.
 Just to mention, trying to open a URL appearing in the Gnome Terminal
 works perfectly fine, as the same loads up in Google Chrome just as
 expected.

 Installed Packages
 firefox.x86_64  3.5.6-1.fc12
 @updates
 gnome-terminal.x86_64   2.28.2-1.fc12
 @updates
 google-chrome-beta.x86_64   4.0.249.43-34537
 @google64
 thunderbird.x86_64  3.0.1-1.fc12
 @updates

 The issue have been fixed for Thunderbird 2 by changing the
 settings in the Config Editor, but the same is not working in F12 and
 Thunderbird 3. [http://tinyurl.com/yawfk38]

Sorry for the duplicat mail i just noticed that the last one was sent 
over with 'users@lists.fedoraproject.org' as the subject. Considering it 
to have gone in the SPAM, I sent out the new.

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latest F12 quckly unusable after restart

2010-02-10 Thread Ulrich Drepper
Since I updated my F12 workstation on Tuesday (haven't done it for two 
weeks before that) my machine becomes unusable pretty quickly after 
every restart.  Sometimes after 30 mins, sometimes after a few hours.

It manifests itself in an ever increasing load, although top doesn't 
show anything running.  Shell processes simply stop while typing.  I.e., 
they don't accept any more keystrokes and just freeze.

X overall becomes very sluggish.  Scrolling in firefox moves pixels bn 
lines.  The Xorg process is eating up lots of CPU cycles and kmsd (I 
assume kernel mode switching support in the kernel) also shows up.

At least before the last reboot I see tons of ext4-dio-unwrit processes. 
  Last time 81 of them.  And I lost data at one of the many reboots.


The machine is a single socket i7 with plenty of RAM.  Lots of disk, one 
RAID 0 and one RAID 1 among the filesystems.  All ext4.  The graphics 
card is a dual head ATI.

Anybody else seen something like that?

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Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-10 Thread Paul Allen Newell
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 14:10 +, Timothy Murphy wrote:
   
 Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

 
 To disable ipv6 on F12 on the next reboot just add the line

 net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1

 to your /etc/sysctl.conf file.

 To disable it right away issue the command

 sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6=1
 
 Thank you. That looks like the Right Way (tm) to do it.
   
 As a matter of interest,
 why do you prefer this to modifying ifcfg-eth?
 in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ,
 which was suggested earlier?

 Do both work, I wonder?
 

 I prefer changing something in /etc/sysctl.conf because it's clearly
 where this kind of configuration change belongs. Changing ifcfg-eth0 may
 or may not work at the moment -- I'm guessing it probably does -- but
 it's a kludge that depends on the functioning of a specific script which
 in some future version could change.

 It's a judgment call based on many years experience of messing with
 systems and having the floor move under my feet :-)

 poc

   
poc:

Interesting points, but not certain whether I agree. Given that the 
IPV6INIT=no seems to be an accepted option in ifcfg-eth0, I am not 
certain whether it is a kludge. Actually, I picked up the info about 
it from this list in 2008 while trying to figure out how to get my local 
network behaving along with internet access and this was the suggestion 
du jour. Mind you, there were cavaets about issues on LANs, but I never 
saw any problems and it certainly did the trick. And I can't understand 
how LANs would not respect ifcfg-eth0 on each machine of the local net 
(but I'm a newbie in that area, so my understanding may be ignorance).

I'll give a shot at trying the other suggestion with the IPV6INIT 
comment out in ifcfg-eth0 to see if it works which I snip from the thread:

===
   To disable ipv6 on F12 on the next reboot just add the line
  
   net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1
  
   to your /etc/sysctl.conf file.
===

But it seems that there should be a Fedora-approved way to not deal 
with ipv6 rather than all of us having best solutions. If anyone 
associated with Fedora is reading, can they provide the proper way to 
handle this (including the option of telling me I didn't read some doc 
and citing it)?

Paul
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Re: Add Xfce desktop apps in Fedora 12

2010-02-10 Thread Jay_Linux
On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 8:12 AM, Christoph Wickert
christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Am Donnerstag, den 21.01.2010, 02:04 +0530 schrieb Jay_Linux:
 Sorry that should be the Xfce desktop for Fedora 12 (not Xubuntu).

 Hi,

 as others already mentioned, you will get Xfce with
 yum groupinstall XFCE

Thanks, have added the Xfce DE.

 I suggest to use the graphical Add/Remove Software tool because It
 will also show you optional Xfce components you can install.

 Next time you install Fedora, you might want to try our Xfce Spin, so
 you don't have to install Gnome first. It features a very complete Xfce
 desktop with even more Xfce packages than Xubuntu. Get it at
 http://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/

I install from the DVD; since the Fedora 12 DVD has additional space
(DVD is about 3 GB), it might be possible to add the Xfce desktop and
application packages to the Fedora DVD itself so it can be installed
during installation/upgrade of Fedora ?

 Regards,
 Christoph

Thanks,

Jay

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Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-10 Thread Dan Irwin
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 11:48 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
pocallag...@gmail.com wrote:

 No doubt IP6 will eventually arrive because it will become necessary,
 but the chances of a significant number of end-users demanding it are
 close to zero

And while none of the users who have a need ask (eg: yourself) the
ISPs won't do anything about it.

You appear to have a need (eg your OS supports it, but your lack of
connectivity is the problem).

 as long as it provides no obvious benefit to them. And I include myself in 
 that group.

Clearly it provides a benefit. The existence of IPv6 in the kernel is
obviously causing problems. Why fight the inevitable? The funny thing
is, it's probably easier to connect to a tunnel broker than to try out
all the things suggested in this thread.

The last time I configured a network for IPv6, we already had IPv6
capable routers and switches. A five minute job on a cisco router, a
two minute job on some L3 switches, and our network was able to
connect to IPv6.  Having done it before helps.

Cheers,

Dan
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Re: Turning off ipv6

2010-02-10 Thread Colin Paul Adams
 Dan == Dan Irwin rummymob...@gmail.com writes:

Dan Clearly it provides a benefit.

Clearly?

it's not clear to me.
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