Strange trouble regarding Webbrowser 2.28.2 aka epiphany
On my desktop-pc (fc12) there are four browsers installed: FireFox, Arora, Epiphany and Galeon. I'm able to connect to http://fedoraforum.org with all but Epiphany. Epiphany refuses to load. Funny thing is, on my eeePC (fc12 too) the exact thing happens too. Anyone else noticed this behavior? DRSp. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Help Diagnose Slow Disc Access
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 21:29 -0800, Don Quixote de la Mancha wrote: what I use for my two disk-to-disk backup drives: I leave one connected to eSATA and the other in a bank safe deposit box. Once a week I swap them. The bank is quite some ways from my home, so even a direct nuclear strike on my home office would not cause the loss of more than a week's worth of my work. Unless your work is being part of the clean up and rebuilding crew, I think it might. ;-) -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Basic image (picture) editor in Fedora 12
JayLinux wrote: Am looking for a basic image editor (excluding Gimp-interface/menus are too complex) to re-sample and re-size pictures. Using Fedora 12 with GNOME 2.28. Do you like command line stuff? If so, you may want to investigate ImageMagick tools. I make extensive use of convert from this package. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Starnge problems with prinbting to a Windows 2 Machine.
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 15:20 -0600, Aaron Konstam wrote: I set up the printer queue for the windows 7 machine just as I did for the Win XP machine. With system-config-printer in setting up the printer using samba the WORKGROUP is found the machine name is found and the printer name is found. However the print stream gets to the Windows 7 machine but just sits there saying its printing but nothing is printed, When I restart the machine the document is printed as the log in screen appears. Any explanations of fixes out there? Sounds like perhaps samba didn't quite finish talking to the Windows machine. Have you tried using the printing troubleshooter in system-config-printer? The troubleshoot.txt diagnostic output might have some clues about what's going wrong. Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Basic image (picture) editor in Fedora 12
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 14:08 +0530, JayLinux wrote: Am looking for a basic image editor (excluding Gimp-interface/menus are too complex) to re-sample and re-size pictures. gThumb There's even some things you can add to Nautilus to let you right-click on files and resize them (look through my list, below). It rather depends on what you want to do, apply the same changes to a batch of files, or custom modify each file individually. [...@suspishus ~]$ rpm -qa \*nautilus\* nautilus-2.22.5.1-1.fc9.i386 nautilus-flac-converter-0.0.5-1.fc9.i386 nautilus-sendto-1.0.1-1.fc9.i386 nautilus-actions-1.4.1-4.fc9.i386 nautilus-image-converter-0.3.0-1.fc9.i386 nautilus-extensions-2.22.5.1-1.fc9.i386 nautilus-cd-burner-2.22.1-1.fc9.i386 nautilus-open-terminal-0.9-2.fc9.i386 totem-nautilus-2.23.2-17.fc9.i386 -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: When PHP-5.3?
If you want to stay on F10 (which is not a good idea :-) you can also use the remi repository: http://blog.famillecollet.com/pages/Config-en I use it for RHEL CentOS to get newer versions of PHP. Christof On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 19:49, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Taylor, Tim wrote: It's already in fedora. The version in F12 currently is 5.3.1 and has been available since Nov 20, 2009. Wow, that was fast, Tim. I'm still on f10 and have been waiting (hoping) for a xenified dom0 kernel before rolling ahead. Looks like I have a reason now, anyway. Thanks for your help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora 12: issue with PyGTK2/Python based applications
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 08:22:50PM -0600, Steven P. Ulrick wrote: Hello Everyone I have been having a very annoying problem with a lot of Python/PyGTK2 based applications. I can only run them as root. If I try to run them as a regular user, they fail somewhat like this: [st...@localhost ~]$ bleachbit Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/bleachbit, line 41, in module import gtk ImportError: No module named gtk [st...@localhost ~]$ Thanks in advance for any help you can give me. Hi Steven, I know there is nothing wrong with pygtk2 itself in F12, as I am currently using it for a side project. Did you have a problem with an interrupted yum transaction at some point? Try running 'package-cleanup --problems' to find out. Hello Paul Here is the result of 'package-cleanup --problems': [r...@localhost ~]# package-cleanup --problems Loaded plugins: blacklist, fastestmirror, presto, refresh-packagekit No Problems Found [r...@localhost ~]# I know of at least one other person on Fedora 12 that is not having this issue. But I want to re-state something from my original message and get your comments on that: 1. Going from the assumption/possibility that pygtk2 might be broken on Fedora 12, I grabbed the pygtk2 SRPM from Rawhide and successfully rebuilt it. 2. I then successfully ran rpm -Fvh on the resulting RPM's. 3. I then opened up a terminal, and since I had not yet logged out and logged back in, I ran su - steve 4. I then re-attempted to run bleachbit and listen (the two Python based applications that I am referring to for testing purposes.) The result was that I could now run both applications as a regular user! This joy was short lived... 5. I then rebooted, because the kernel had been updated recently. After rebooting, and logging back in, I tried to run listen and bleachbit again. This time I could NOT run them as a regular user. So, why did upgrading the pygtk2 RPMS temporarily fix my problem, and why did rebooting result in the problem coming back again? Remember, I did not run yum downgrade pygtk2* until AFTER the reboot, and AFTER I discovered that my workaround had stopped working... Steven P. Ulrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
2010/2/24 Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: My printer is running on my F10 server. In the past, my son has been able to print to it with no problems from his Windows XP machine. Starting sometime this past weekend, when he tries to print, Windows XP gets an unknown print error when he tries. Now, here's the kicker, when I log into the owner account on the same Windows XP machine, I can print just fine Does anyone know what might be causing this bizarre unwanted behaviour? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) Check allowed users at CUPS configuration page (localhost:631). -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[389-users] About nsMatchingRule in indexes
Hi I am trying to make our directory more user friendly. We are in Spain, so there are people names like mine, Juan Asensio Sánchez (Sánchez with tilde). Well, i I do a search with filter (cn=*sánchez) (with tilde), and I get my user in the results, but if i try with the filter (cn=*sanchez) (without tilde), i get no results (I understand why). Is there anyway to make searches using indexes with the attribute nsMatchingRule to behave as I need? I have tried with: nsMatchingRule: caseIgnoreSubstringMatch-es in the cn index, but using the second filter (cn=*sanchez), i am already having no results. NB: I know I can use cn;lang-en, but this implies add more attributes manually, duplicate similar values, etc. Regards. -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On 02/24/2010 08:11 AM, Hiisi wrote: 2010/2/24 Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: My printer is running on my F10 server. In the past, my son has been able to print to it with no problems from his Windows XP machine. Starting sometime this past weekend, when he tries to print, Windows XP gets an unknown print error when he tries. Now, here's the kicker, when I log into the owner account on the same Windows XP machine, I can print just fine Does anyone know what might be causing this bizarre unwanted behaviour? Check allowed users at CUPS configuration page (localhost:631). Well, there is a can of worms! If I attach remotely to the server's CUPs page (@ server:631), I can select Manage Printers which brings me to a page showing me the printers on my server. When I look at the printer in question, I can see buttons for: Print Test Page, Stop Printer, Reject Jobs, Move All Jobs, Cancel All Jobs, Unpublish Printer, Modify Printer, Set Printer Options, Delete Printer, Set As Default, and Set Allowed Users. When I select the Set Allowed Users button, I get the following WWW page: http://::1/admin/?op=set-allowed-usersprinter_name=Printer Why does it change from server:631 to ::1? When I change the URL back to the CUPs Server, I see that the allowed users list is empty, and neither the Allow These Users To Print, nor the Prevent These Users From Printing buttons are checked So, no users are listed for this printer. What can I check next? Please remember, that prior to this weekend, this was working without incident. I have rebooted the Windows XP machine a number of times without changing the perceived behavior. Do I need to reboot the CUPs Server? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to Get rid of Dragon Player
On 02/23/2010 09:41 PM, Petrus de Calguarium wrote: Jim wrote: How can I get rid of Dragon Player My guess is that it is part of kde-multimedia, so it would not be practical to uninstall that package without gouging some necessary stuff from your system. What you can do, however, is to go through system settings/advanced tab/file associations and move dragon player down the list for the file types where it gets started and you wish something else would start instead. Likely, that would be mpg, avi, flv and other video media types. Of course, you need to have something installed that can handle those file types, like kaffeine, kplayer, smplayer, vlc, gnome-mplayer, etc. Those are available from the rpmfusion repo. Then, you make sure that one of these programs appears higher in the list. This should solve your problem. It doesn't do any good to modify File Assc. kde come right in changes it to Dragon Player again, I had changed to VLC as priority player. I went ahead and removed kdemultimedia and I seem to have no problems so far. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
ssh tunneling client settings
Hi guys, are there any special client settings one needs to have for ssh tunneling? I have the classical setup: machines A1 and A2 (both fedora 12) should access C which is only accessible from B1 (kerberos) or B2 (private key) So on A1 I used to ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1 or ssh -L 10080:C:80 B2 Both work fine. But on A2: ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1/B2 logs me in to the machine but every connection attempt returns: channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed Why? What kind of weird setting is this? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
How to change Content Type in Thunderbird
FC12/KDE How do you add Content Type in thunderbird/Attachments/Content Type ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
From: Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: firefox lockups after update --- On Tue, 2/23/10, vinny vone...@optonline.net wrote: I submitted this problem before, I had one answer requesting the output of yum info firefox I submitted, If there was a subsequent answer maybe I missed. So here I have an HP laptop zv600 and a desktop Dell 8300. Dell works fine through out all the update, HP lockup and after several try uninstall and reinstall doesn't lock any longer but it doesn't load. here are the yum info for both PC: Dell desktop [vi...@localhost ~]$ yum info firefox Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit adobe-linux-i386 17/17 Installed Packages Name? ? ???: firefox Arch? ? ???: i686 Version? ? : 3.5.8 Release? ? : 1.fc12 Size? ? ???: 17 M Repo? ? ???: installed From repo? : updates Summary? ? : Mozilla Firefox Web browser URL? ? ? ? : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ License? ? : MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ Description: Mozilla Firefox is an open-source web browser, designed for ? ? ? ? ???: standards compliance, performance and portability. HP laptop [vi...@laptop ~]$ yum info firefox Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages Name? ? ???: firefox Arch? ? ???: i586 Version? ? : 3.5.8 Release? ? : 1.fc11 Size? ? ???: 17 M Repo? ? ???: installed From repo? : updates Summary? ? : Mozilla Firefox Web browser URL? ? ? ? : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ License? ? : MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ Description: Mozilla Firefox is an open-source web browser, designed for ? ? ? ? ???: standards compliance, performance and portability. The only difference that I can see is that Dell has the release 1.FC12 and HP has release 1.FC11, seeing that I reinstalled few times but it all the way install the same release. is there any thing I can do to get firefox back?? Are you running Fedora 12 on the Dell, and Fedora 11 on the HP? And what are the basic hardware specs on each. And did you do clean installs or upgrade installs? Are you dual/multi booting? And if so, what OSes? B Both pc running F12 at least I thought, but since you questioning it I start to check and I found that the kernel on HP is Fedora(2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i686.PAE) I suppose that means HP is runnung F11 I do not remember for sure, I thing that the difference is that at Dell I made a clean installation and at HP I did upgrade, however, both were working fine up to the update. Dell dimension 8300 Intel Pentium 4, 2GB of memory Has 2 HD 120Gb for windows XP and 350 GB for F12 HP zv6000 with AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 1.5GB of memory, use dual boot on single HD 80GB partitioned at 40GB each with windows XP and what I thought was f12. I do not know how to get other hardware info, if it is needed please give me direction on how to get them -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh tunneling client settings
check to see with ssh -v .. suomi On 02/24/2010 03:41 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi guys, are there any special client settings one needs to have for ssh tunneling? I have the classical setup: machines A1 and A2 (both fedora 12) should access C which is only accessible from B1 (kerberos) or B2 (private key) So on A1 I used to ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1 or ssh -L 10080:C:80 B2 Both work fine. But on A2: ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1/B2 logs me in to the machine but every connection attempt returns: channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed Why? What kind of weird setting is this? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
DNS PTR Question
I am trying to get a handle on how to properly assign DNS PTR records, given these conditions: 1) Single machine containing: a) DNS Server b) Sendmail Server Forward zone contains: == $TTL 172800 @IN SOA ns1.domain.com. admin.domain.com. ( 3818 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M ; retry 1W; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ; ==[Nameservers]= @ IN NS ns1.domain.com. ; ==[Mail Exchangers]= @ IN MX 10 mx1.domain.com. ; ==[Machines] ns1 IN A10.1.0.1 mx1 IN A10.1.0.1 [...] Reverse zone contains: == $TTL 172800 @ IN SOA ns1.domain.com admin.domain.com ( 3818 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M ; retry 1W; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ; Top-Level = @ IN NS ns1.domain.com. ; PTRS == 1 IN PTR ns1.domain.com. 1 IN PTR mx1.domain.com. [...] The problem here is assigning the PTR, since only ONE reverse IP address is allowed. In the above case, which will it be, ns1.domain.com or mx1.domain.com? Discovery led to the last scanned entry, which is mx1.domain.com Why is this a potential problem? + One that I can think of, is security verification such as some programs do a reverse IP check to reduce phishing/spamming? How is this to be properly handled? + Separate out DNS and Sendmail services to it's own machine as hinted in example.org? Is it possible/sensible to have DNS and Sendmail on the same machine? Thanks! Dan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Problem with Cyrus-imap/sendmail
Hello List, I'm trying to setup cyrus-imap with sendmail delivering the email to cyrus through an lmtp socket. I finally got everything to work except one issue. Whenever someone sends email to the server using u...@domain.com, it ends up in the correct inbox, however somewhere down the line the To address is rewritten to u...@mail.domain.com. I really have no idea what's going on since. I must have tried everything and googled for hours for a solution but I can't get it to work properly. My imapd.conf: --- configdirectory: /var/lib/imap partition-default: /var/spool/imap admins: cyrus sievedir: /var/lib/imap/sieve sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail hashimapspool: true sasl_pwcheck_method: saslauthd sasl_mech_list: PLAIN LOGIN tls_cert_file: /etc/pki/tls/certs/cyrus-imapd.pem tls_key_file: /etc/pki/tls/certs/cyrus-imapd.pem tls_ca_file: /etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt virtdomains: yes defaultdomain: domain.com loginrealms: domain.com allowanonymouslogin: no lmtp_downcase_rcpt: true servername: mail.domain.com The mail: Return-Path:thesen...@something.com Received: from mail.domain.com ([unix socket]) by mail.domain.com (Cyrus v2.3.7-Invoca-RPM-2.3.7-7.el5_4.3) with LMTPA; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:20:22 -0400 X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 2.3 Received: from somehost (somehost [1.1.1.1] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.domain.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id o1OGKE5O020540 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) foru...@domain.com; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 12:20:17 -0400 Message-ID:4b8551c3.8080...@something.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 17:20:19 +0100 From: Gijsthesen...@something.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100216 Thunderbird/3.0.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: u...@mail.domain.com Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=7.9 required=8.0 tests=AWL,FH_DATE_PAST_20XX, RCVD_IN_PBL,RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL,RDNS_NONE,TVD_SPACE_RATIO autolearn=no version=3.2.5 X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.5 (2008-06-10) on mail.domain.com test My cyrusv2.m4: _DEFIFNOT(`_DEF_CYRUSV2_MAILER_FLAGS', `lsDFMnqXz') _DEFIFNOT(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_FLAGS', `A@/:|m') ifdef(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_ARGS',, `define(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_ARGS', `FILE /var/imap/socket/lmtp')') define(`_CYRUSV2_QGRP', `ifelse(defn(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_QGRP'),`',`', ` Q=CYRUSV2_MAILER_QGRP,')')dnl POPDIVERT # ### Cyrus V2 Mailer specification ### # VERSIONID(`$Id: cyrusv2.m4,v 1.1 2002/06/01 21:14:57 ca Exp $') Mcyrusv2,P=[IPC], F=_MODMF_(CONCAT(_DEF_CYRUSV2_MAILER_FLAGS, CYRUSV2_MAILER_FLAGS), `CYRUSV2'), S=EnvFromL/HdrFromL, R=EnvToL/HdrToL, E=\r\n, _OPTINS(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_MAXMSGS', `m=', `, ')_OPTINS(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_MAXRCPTS', `r=', `, ')_OPTINS(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_CHARSET', `C=', `, ')T=DNS/RFC822/SMTP,_CYRUSV2_QGRP A=CYRUSV2_MAILER_ARGS And finally my sendmail.mc: divert(-1)dnl include(`/usr/share/sendmail-cf/m4/cf.m4')dnl VERSIONID(`setup for linux')dnl OSTYPE(`linux')dnl define(`confDEF_USER_ID', ``8:12'')dnl define(`confTO_CONNECT', `1m')dnl define(`confTRY_NULL_MX_LIST', `True')dnl define(`confDONT_PROBE_INTERFACES', `True')dnl define(`PROCMAIL_MAILER_PATH', `/usr/bin/procmail')dnl define(`ALIAS_FILE', `/etc/aliases,/etc/mail/aliases,/etc/mail/forward')dnl define(`STATUS_FILE', `/var/log/mail/statistics')dnl define(`UUCP_MAILER_MAX', `200')dnl define(`confUSERDB_SPEC', `/etc/mail/userdb.db')dnl define(`confPRIVACY_FLAGS', `authwarnings,novrfy,noexpn,restrictqrun')dnl define(`confAUTH_OPTIONS', `A')dnl TRUST_AUTH_MECH(`EXTERNAL DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confAUTH_MECHANISMS', `EXTERNAL GSSAPI DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5 LOGIN PLAIN')dnl define(`confCACERT_PATH', `/etc/pki/tls/certs')dnl define(`confCACERT', `/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt')dnl define(`confSERVER_CERT', `/etc/pki/tls/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl define(`confSERVER_KEY', `/etc/pki/tls/certs/sendmail.pem')dnl define(`confTO_IDENT', `0')dnl FEATURE(`no_default_msa', `dnl')dnl FEATURE(`smrsh', `/usr/sbin/smrsh')dnl FEATURE(`mailertable', `hash -o /etc/mail/mailertable.db')dnl FEATURE(`virtusertable', `hash -o /etc/mail/virtusertable.db')dnl FEATURE(redirect)dnl FEATURE(always_add_domain)dnl FEATURE(use_cw_file)dnl FEATURE(use_ct_file)dnl FEATURE(local_procmail, `', `procmail -t -Y -a $h -d $u')dnl FEATURE(`access_db', `hash -TTMPF -o /etc/mail/access.db')dnl FEATURE(`blacklist_recipients')dnl EXPOSED_USER(`root')dnl define(`confLOCAL_MAILER', `cyrusv2')dnl define(`CYRUSV2_MAILER_ARGS', `FILE /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=smtp,Addr=0.0.0.0, Name=MTA')dnl DAEMON_OPTIONS(`Port=submission,
Re: [389-users] RH 3-5 systems hanging requiring autofs
-- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 10:56:41 -0800 From: Morris, Patrick patrick.mor...@hp.com Subject: Re: [389-users] RH 3-5 systems hanging requiring autofs restart to fix issue To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org Message-ID: 4b8424e9.9060...@hp.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Charles Gilbert wrote: Hi everyone, I am experiencing an issue with my systems in that autofs, or even nscd or crond hangs after our RH 3, 4, and 5 machines are being used for a while. This issue is causing concern that our LDAP install is not stable obviously, and has sent me on a goose chase to find some answers. Errors I get in the syslog are that automount: nss_ldap: can not contact LDAP server. Make sure you've got the most recent version of nss_ldap. Some of the older Red Hat versions were buggy and could cause screwiness with LDAP lookups. I have RH5.3 systems with up to date nss_ldap on it that are also having these problems. I am looking right now to verify that all the other systems are up todate. -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: DNS PTR Question
On Wednesday 24 February 2010 11:11, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I'd either cname one address or the other. I am trying to get a handle on how to properly assign DNS PTR records, given these conditions: 1) Single machine containing: a) DNS Server b) Sendmail Server Forward zone contains: == $TTL 172800 @IN SOA ns1.domain.com. admin.domain.com. ( 3818 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M ; retry 1W; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ; ==[Nameservers]= @ IN NS ns1.domain.com. ; ==[Mail Exchangers]= @ IN MX 10 mx1.domain.com. ; ==[Machines] ns1 IN A10.1.0.1 mx1 IN A10.1.0.1 [...] Reverse zone contains: == $TTL 172800 @ IN SOA ns1.domain.com admin.domain.com ( 3818 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M ; retry 1W; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ; Top-Level = @ IN NS ns1.domain.com. ; PTRS == 1 IN PTR ns1.domain.com. 1 IN PTR mx1.domain.com. [...] The problem here is assigning the PTR, since only ONE reverse IP address is allowed. In the above case, which will it be, ns1.domain.com or mx1.domain.com? Discovery led to the last scanned entry, which is mx1.domain.com Why is this a potential problem? + One that I can think of, is security verification such as some programs do a reverse IP check to reduce phishing/spamming? How is this to be properly handled? + Separate out DNS and Sendmail services to it's own machine as hinted in example.org? Is it possible/sensible to have DNS and Sendmail on the same machine? Thanks! Dan pgpTxQ6NJDc7N.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
If your son was able to print in the past from the XP machine, there's a permissions issue. If you're able to print under the 'owner' account which I assume is an admin account, it seems that is a permissions problem. Check on CUPS the printers settings who's allowed to print. Somehow seems that only 'OWNER' is allowed to print but not the other account used by your son. Check also the xp printers's property under the owner account and looks if something have been changed. Regards Eduardo Landaveri GNU/Linux User: 433512 -Original Message- From: Hiisi very-c...@rambler.ru To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 5:11 am Subject: Re: Printing from Windows XP 2010/2/24 Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: My printer is running on my F10 server. In the past, my son has been able to print to it with no problems from his Windows XP machine. Starting sometime this past weekend, when he tries to print, Windows XP gets an unknown print error when he tries. Now, here's the kicker, when I log into the owner account on the same Windows XP machine, I can print just fine Does anyone know what might be causing this bizarre unwanted behaviour? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) Check allowed users at CUPS configuration page (localhost:631). -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: DNS PTR Question
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 08:11:28 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman d...@cdkkt.com wrote: The problem here is assigning the PTR, since only ONE reverse IP address is allowed. In the above case, which will it be, ns1.domain.com or mx1.domain.com? Discovery led to the last scanned entry, which is mx1.domain.com Multiple ones are allowed, just expect a lot of applications not to handle this correctly. Why is this a potential problem? + One that I can think of, is security verification such as some programs do a reverse IP check to reduce phishing/spamming? Programs really shouldn't be making security decisions based on PTR records. My experience with the PTR checks for email is that existence of a PTR record is significantly more important than that it match the A record. How is this to be properly handled? + Separate out DNS and Sendmail services to it's own machine as hinted in example.org? Is it possible/sensible to have DNS and Sendmail on the same machine? Yes. If you have spare IP addresses you could have them listen on different IP addresses, even though they are on the same machine. You could also just have one A record, and use an MX record for the name you want to advertise for the mail server (assuming you are just talking smtp, not IMAP or POP). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: DNS PTR Question
On 10-02-24 11:11:28, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: ... Why is this a potential problem? + One that I can think of, is security verification such as some programs do a reverse IP check to reduce phishing/spamming? ... FCrDNS only needs the reverse lookup to produce a name that maps to the IP[1]. Some sites will do this wrong, and you can't deal with all the ways they can do it wrong. Just try to work with the places that do it right. For my domain I have A records for georgeanelson.com and rapidxen.georgeanelson.com (for the day when I move servers and also have a new.georgeanelson.com), MX 0 georgeanelson.com., and rDNS rapidxen.georgeanelson.com. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward-confirmed_reverse_DNS -- TonyN.:' mailto:tonynel...@georgeanelson.com ' http://www.georgeanelson.com/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
GoogleEarth segfault
I installed the latest GoogelEarth 5.1.3533 from the .bin file (over the top of an older version that I never got working either), ran restorecon on the library directory. SElinux stopped complaining about violations after that, but googleearth still segfaults. This is 64-bit F12 with the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. Anybody with similar experiences? Hints? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Historical cpu consumption information?
My fedora 10 laptop routinely freezes. That means the menu's and applications don't respond to mouse clicks. After a few seconds (or sometimes many seconds) it frees up and works normally again. If I look at the cpu consumption graph I can see that something had the processer pegged at 100% but what? during the episode there is no way to switch to top or the ksysguard process list because the system is unresponsive. So how do I find out what caused the lockup? wcn -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GoogleEarth segfault
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 12:53 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I installed the latest GoogelEarth 5.1.3533 from the .bin file (over the top of an older version that I never got working either), ran restorecon on the library directory. SElinux stopped complaining about violations after that, but googleearth still segfaults. This is 64-bit F12 with the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. Sorry, should have mentioned, GNOME with desktop effects enabled. Anybody with similar experiences? Hints? TIA. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh tunneling client settings
Am Mittwoch, den 24.02.2010, 19:23 +0100 schrieb Christoph Höger: Am Mittwoch, den 24.02.2010, 15:57 + schrieb Andrew Haley: On 02/24/2010 02:41 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi guys, are there any special client settings one needs to have for ssh tunneling? I have the classical setup: machines A1 and A2 (both fedora 12) should access C which is only accessible from B1 (kerberos) or B2 (private key) So on A1 I used to ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1 or ssh -L 10080:C:80 B2 Both work fine. But on A2: ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1/B2 logs me in to the machine but every connection attempt returns: channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed Why? What kind of weird setting is this? Anything in the logs? Looks like a policy issue to me. What logs do you mean? This is a client issue. Does the ssh client write to local log files? Nvermind. Just found out that I had a typo in the Host URI. Somehow I'd expected to get an unknown host message, though ... signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GoogleEarth segfault
On 02/24/2010 01:09 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 12:53 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I installed the latest GoogelEarth 5.1.3533 from the .bin file (over the top of an older version that I never got working either), ran restorecon on the library directory. SElinux stopped complaining about violations after that, but googleearth still segfaults. This is 64-bit F12 with the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. Sorry, should have mentioned, GNOME with desktop effects enabled. Anybody with similar experiences? Hints? TIA. Does it work in permissive mode? getsebool -A | grep allow_exec -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh tunneling client settings
On 02/24/2010 06:23 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 24.02.2010, 15:57 + schrieb Andrew Haley: On 02/24/2010 02:41 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi guys, are there any special client settings one needs to have for ssh tunneling? I have the classical setup: machines A1 and A2 (both fedora 12) should access C which is only accessible from B1 (kerberos) or B2 (private key) So on A1 I used to ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1 or ssh -L 10080:C:80 B2 Both work fine. But on A2: ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1/B2 logs me in to the machine but every connection attempt returns: channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed Why? What kind of weird setting is this? Anything in the logs? Looks like a policy issue to me. What logs do you mean? This is a client issue. Does the ssh client write to local log files? No. I think it may be a SELinux policy issue. See if anything is logged in any of the log files when you get this message. Also, make very sure that AllowTcpForwarding is set in sshd_config Make sure no-one else has this port open. Check the addresses. Andrew. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh tunneling client settings
On 02/24/2010 01:32 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:23 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Am Mittwoch, den 24.02.2010, 15:57 + schrieb Andrew Haley: On 02/24/2010 02:41 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: Hi guys, are there any special client settings one needs to have for ssh tunneling? I have the classical setup: machines A1 and A2 (both fedora 12) should access C which is only accessible from B1 (kerberos) or B2 (private key) So on A1 I used to ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1 or ssh -L 10080:C:80 B2 Both work fine. But on A2: ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1/B2 logs me in to the machine but every connection attempt returns: channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed Why? What kind of weird setting is this? Anything in the logs? Looks like a policy issue to me. What logs do you mean? This is a client issue. Does the ssh client write to local log files? No. I think it may be a SELinux policy issue. See if anything is logged in any of the log files when you get this message. Also, make very sure that AllowTcpForwarding is set in sshd_config Make sure no-one else has this port open. Check the addresses. Andrew. What version rpm -q selinux-policy ausearch -m avc -ts recent -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Historical cpu consumption information?
Wendell Nichols wrote:
My fedora 10 laptop routinely freezes. That means the menu's and
applications don't respond to mouse clicks. After a few seconds (or
sometimes many seconds) it frees up and works normally again. If I look
at the cpu consumption graph I can see that something had the processer
pegged at 100% but what? during the episode there is no way to switch
to top or the ksysguard process list because the system is
unresponsive. So how do I find out what caused the lockup?
wcn
Here's a possibility.
$ while true; do datetime.log; ps g -f --sort=utime,stime | head -n 3
time.log; sleep 1; done
As root, use renice to set the process to run at high priority;
it might help. Perhaps you'll need to use nice in the loop to
force things to run.
That file will grow fairly rapidly, so you might want to set up another
one to delete the file once an hour or day or so. You may want or need
to tweak the number of lines you capture, and how often it runs.
When an event occurs, you could kill the process, and
$ tail -n 24 time.log
to see the last 6 entries. To look at other entries, you could use
something like
$ tail -n 40 time.log | head -n 24
if you've got a few at the end to omit. The example shows you
what happened 10 seconds ago. This might save time loading
it into a text editor or whatever.
$ tail -n 80 time.log | less
Might be good. Anyway, once you've got the data, you'll think
of ways to proceed.
Crude, but it may get you what you want.
You got the suggestion to run top, but running top in batch mode
results in a very rapidly growing log file, possibly too rapidly.
I don't know of a way to limit the output top produces.
Mike
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MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder For Fedora version 9
Where do I find MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? How do I install it? Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder For Fedora version 9
On 02/25/2010 12:21 AM, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: Where do I find MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? How do I install it? Thanks. http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Fedora-Multimedia-Installation-HOWTO/#AEN165 -- Saurabh Sharma Linux user number: 490644 http://sawrub-blog.blogspot.com/ Open your doors...It's time to look beyond Windows -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder For Fedora version 9
On 02/24/2010 12:51 PM, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: Where do I find MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? How do I install it? Thanks. http://rpmfusion.org/ -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GoogleEarth segfault
On 2010-02-24 18:53, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I installed the latest GoogelEarth 5.1.3533 from the .bin file (over the top of an older version that I never got working either), ran restorecon on the library directory. SElinux stopped complaining about violations after that, but googleearth still segfaults. This is 64-bit F12 with the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. Anybody with similar experiences? Hints? TIA. Try running /sbin/ldconfig as root. That was the solution to a similar sounding problem I had. The problem is that ldconfig wasn't run automatically when the nVidia stuff was installed. -- Sjoerd Mullender -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
[SOLVED]Re: how to know if I'm using xterm or gnome-terminal?
On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 15:41 -0500, Nalin Dahyabhai wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 04:52:32PM -0300, Germán A. Racca wrote:
Hi all:
How to know if I'm using an xterm or a gnome-terminal from command line?
The output of echo $TERM is xterm from both of them.
How to know?
James Wilkinson already outlined why most environment variables probably
shouldn't be trusted, so I'll suggest checking the output of
xprop -id $WINDOWID WM_CLASS
HTH,
Nalin
Thanks to all that answered my question with a lot of useful
suggestions.
Finally, I decided to use Nalin's suggestion and implement the following
command to know if I'm using an xterm or a gnome-terminal:
xprop -id $WINDOWID WM_CLASS | awk '{print $3}' | sed 's///g' | sed
's/,//g'
which returns either xterm or gnome-terminal.
Cheers,
Germán.
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Canon CAPT, LBP3010, F12 x86_64
Canon I-SENSYS LBP3010, CAPT drivers 1.90E, Fedora 12 x86_64. How to get it work? Thank you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder For Fedora version 9
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 10:51 AM, AnneMarie Robinson bluegreen...@yahoo.com wrote: Where do I find MPEG-1 Layer 3 (MP3) decoder? How do I install it? Thanks. Get the fluendo mp3 decoder at http://www.fluendo.com/shop/product/fluendo-mp3-decoder/ Installation information is available at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Multimedia/fluendo-mp3 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Historical cpu consumption information?
Mike McCarty wrote: Wendell Nichols wrote: My fedora 10 laptop routinely freezes. That means the menu's and applications don't respond to mouse clicks. After a few seconds (or sometimes many seconds) it frees up and works normally again. If I look at the cpu consumption graph I can see that something had the processer pegged at 100% but what? during the episode there is no way to switch to top or the ksysguard process list because the system is unresponsive. So how do I find out what caused the lockup? wcn Here's a possibility. $ while true; do datetime.log; ps g -f --sort=utime,stime | head -n 3 time.log; sleep 1; done As root, use renice to set the process to run at high priority; it might help. Perhaps you'll need to use nice in the loop to force things to run. That file will grow fairly rapidly, so you might want to set up another one to delete the file once an hour or day or so. You may want or need to tweak the number of lines you capture, and how often it runs. When an event occurs, you could kill the process, and $ tail -n 24 time.log to see the last 6 entries. To look at other entries, you could use something like $ tail -n 40 time.log | head -n 24 if you've got a few at the end to omit. The example shows you what happened 10 seconds ago. This might save time loading it into a text editor or whatever. $ tail -n 80 time.log | less Might be good. Anyway, once you've got the data, you'll think of ways to proceed. Crude, but it may get you what you want. You got the suggestion to run top, but running top in batch mode results in a very rapidly growing log file, possibly too rapidly. I don't know of a way to limit the output top produces. Mike Thanks everyone for your input. In the end I did a: while [ 1 ] do date ps -eo pcpu,pid,user,args | sort -k 1 -r | head -10 sleep 2 done I ran that script with its output redirected to a log. My machine then acted up (badly) and I was able to see that udevd was using 50% (one whole core) and a bunch of kde apps were unusually elevated ... in the 12-20% area. The machine ran like that for half an hour and finally thermaled off. I had to cool it with a fan to get it restarted! To make a long story short it seems to happen when I plug my blackberry in to charge! I've seen some chat around the net and the fault is probably with the berry_charge module. I will find an electrical socket to plug that piece of junk into... (its only working function is to prematurely terminate conversations anyway). Thanks again... wcn -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Vincent Onelli vone...@optonline.net wrote: --- On Tue, 2/23/10, vinny vone...@optonline.net wrote: I submitted this problem before, I had one answer requesting the output of yum info firefox I submitted, If there was a subsequent answer maybe I missed. So here I have an HP laptop zv600 and a desktop Dell 8300. Dell works fine through out all the update, HP lockup and after several try uninstall and reinstall doesn't lock any longer but it doesn't load. here are the yum info for both PC: Dell desktop [vi...@localhost ~]$ yum info firefox Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit adobe-linux-i386 17/17 Installed Packages Name? ? ???: firefox Arch? ? ???: i686 Version? ? : 3.5.8 Release? ? : 1.fc12 Size? ? ???: 17 M Repo? ? ???: installed From repo? : updates Summary? ? : Mozilla Firefox Web browser URL? ? ? ? : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ License? ? : MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ Description: Mozilla Firefox is an open-source web browser, designed for ? ? ? ? ???: standards compliance, performance and portability. HP laptop [vi...@laptop ~]$ yum info firefox Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages Name? ? ???: firefox Arch? ? ???: i586 Version? ? : 3.5.8 Release? ? : 1.fc11 Size? ? ???: 17 M Repo? ? ???: installed From repo? : updates Summary? ? : Mozilla Firefox Web browser URL? ? ? ? : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ License? ? : MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ Description: Mozilla Firefox is an open-source web browser, designed for ? ? ? ? ???: standards compliance, performance and portability. The only difference that I can see is that Dell has the release 1.FC12 and HP has release 1.FC11, seeing that I reinstalled few times but it all the way install the same release. is there any thing I can do to get firefox back?? Are you running Fedora 12 on the Dell, and Fedora 11 on the HP? And what are the basic hardware specs on each. And did you do clean installs or upgrade installs? Are you dual/multi booting? And if so, what OSes? B Both pc running F12 at least I thought, but since you questioning it I start to check and I found that the kernel on HP is Fedora(2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i686.PAE) I suppose that means HP is runnung F11 I do not remember for sure, I thing that the difference is that at Dell I made a clean installation and at HP I did upgrade, however, both were working fine up to the update. Dell dimension 8300 Intel Pentium 4, 2GB of memory Has 2 HD 120Gb for windows XP and 350 GB for F12 HP zv6000 with AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 1.5GB of memory, use dual boot on single HD 80GB partitioned at 40GB each with windows XP and what I thought was f12. I do not know how to get other hardware info, if it is needed please give me direction on how to get them If you're running GNOME, here's a quick way to check install versions. Menu: System-About this Computer Without getting into what's installed or how it was installed on which machine, try this: Disable SELinux or lower its protection. I've had it cause more problems with various Fedora versions that now I disable it. I'm not running a server, just a one user desktop, so two firewalls (router and system) and being careful has kept me uninfected since Fedora Core 3. Anyway, see if Firefox works. If not and since it apppears that your last update broke firefox, do a 'yum update' on both systems, then 'yum remove firefox', and after that completes, 'yum install firefox'. This should install any firefox dependencies. In my opinion, the easiest thing would be to do clean installs (no upgrade) of F12 on both systems from a newly downloaded, burned and checksummed DVD. Yes, it's a pain, but it will take less time than trying to find out what's currently the problem, and fixing it. Just back up your data, etc. before doing it. FWIW, I've always had problems with upgrading between versions even following the instructions explicitly. I've always ended up with a system that is a mix of the two versions, which ultimately causes problems. Maybe this link will help with your install and configurations. It's a very good reference. I've been using it since FC3 or 4. http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/ B -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: DNS PTR Question
Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I am trying to get a handle on how to properly assign DNS PTR records, given these conditions: 1) Single machine containing: a) DNS Server b) Sendmail Server snip The problem here is assigning the PTR, since only ONE reverse IP address is allowed. In the above case, which will it be, ns1.domain.com or mx1.domain.com? Discovery led to the last scanned entry, which is mx1.domain.com Why is this a potential problem? + One that I can think of, is security verification such as some programs do a reverse IP check to reduce phishing/spamming? Alternate idea: have both mx1 and ns1 as CNAMEs to the “real” host name, and put that “real” host name in the reverse DNS. Don’t forget that you have to have your MX records pointing to that A record: MX pointing to CNAMEs is Not Allowed. Hope this helps, James. -- E-mail: james@ | A: Because people don’t normally read bottom to top. aprilcottage.co.uk | Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? | A: Top-posting. | Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail and usenet? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:14:59PM +0300, Hiisi wrote: 2010/2/24 Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: On 02/24/2010 08:11 AM, Hiisi wrote: 2010/2/24 Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: --SNIP-- Well, there is a can of worms! If I attach remotely to the server's CUPs page (@ server:631), I can select Manage Printers which brings me to a page showing me the printers on my server. When I look at the printer in question, I can see buttons for: Print Test Page, Stop Printer, Reject Jobs, Move All Jobs, Cancel All Jobs, Unpublish Printer, Modify Printer, Set Printer Options, Delete Printer, Set As Default, and Set Allowed Users. When I select the Set Allowed Users button, I get the following WWW page: http://::1/admin/?op=set-allowed-usersprinter_name=Printer Why does it change from server:631 to ::1? When I change the URL back to the CUPs Server, I see that the allowed users list is empty, and neither the Allow These Users To Print, nor the Prevent These Users From Printing buttons are checked So, no users are listed for this printer. What can I check next? Please remember, that prior to this weekend, this was working without incident. I have rebooted the Windows XP machine a number of times without changing the perceived behavior. Do I need to reboot the CUPs Server? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) I don't know. Last time when I was fishing I used polyurethane worms: http://rulla.kuvaboxi.fi/mediaobjects/orig/pub/2009/08/24/8143010478554238833orig.jpg Is it time to yum reinstall cups? -- Reinstalling cups is like the idea that to keep Windoze working you need to reinstall it when it goes bad. Doesn't feel like the right answer, though I don't know what the right answer is. Kevin, at the risk of severe information overload, you might want to consider using Wireshark (or other similar tool) to grab some data packets off the network to see what, if anything, Windoze is doing when the printing fails. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. -- Philippians 4:13 --- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
KMail
WTF is up with KMail? Ever since I installed a bunch of updates this morning, KMail started having problems. I got a brilliant idea and decided to see if restarting KMail would solve the problem. Well, it didn't. It caused more problems. Now I can't send *anything* and there's a message on my system (at home -- logged into it from remote) stating starting akonadi server. Now WTF is that and why is it not starting??? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: Did you update to KDE 4.4? If so, check recent postings on the Fedora KDE list. There are some problems with akonadi. See https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde Apparently I did update to KDE 4.4. Who's brilliant idea was it to push out a broken update anyway??? That was *really* freakin' brilliant! I realize Fedora is a test bed but you'd think they'd at least make sure they didn't send out any broken updates! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: Did you update to KDE 4.4? If so, check recent postings on the Fedora KDE list. There are some problems with akonadi. See https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde FWIW, I'm still on F11 and it's been working great until this morning when I noticed the system was acting like it was trying to get my attention to update... so I used the SSH console I was in to start the update and noticed a bunch of updates come through... *sigh* I wish I'd known about the KDE4.4 problems... pisses me off that stuff that should have been better tested was pushed out broken! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
On 02/24/2010 04:16 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Vincent Onellivone...@optonline.net wrote: --- On Tue, 2/23/10, vinnyvone...@optonline.net wrote: I submitted this problem before, I had one answer requesting the output of yum info firefox I submitted, If there was a subsequent answer maybe I missed. So here I have an HP laptop zv600 and a desktop Dell 8300. Dell works fine through out all the update, HP lockup and after several try uninstall and reinstall doesn't lock any longer but it doesn't load. here are the yum info for both PC: Dell desktop [vi...@localhost ~]$ yum info firefox Loaded plugins: presto, refresh-packagekit adobe-linux-i386 17/17 Installed Packages Name? ? ???: firefox Arch? ? ???: i686 Version? ? : 3.5.8 Release? ? : 1.fc12 Size? ? ???: 17 M Repo? ? ???: installed From repo? : updates Summary? ? : Mozilla Firefox Web browser URL? ? ? ? : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ License? ? : MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ Description: Mozilla Firefox is an open-source web browser, designed for ? ? ? ? ???: standards compliance, performance and portability. HP laptop [vi...@laptop ~]$ yum info firefox Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Installed Packages Name? ? ???: firefox Arch? ? ???: i586 Version? ? : 3.5.8 Release? ? : 1.fc11 Size? ? ???: 17 M Repo? ? ???: installed From repo? : updates Summary? ? : Mozilla Firefox Web browser URL? ? ? ? : http://www.mozilla.org/projects/firefox/ License? ? : MPLv1.1 or GPLv2+ or LGPLv2+ Description: Mozilla Firefox is an open-source web browser, designed for ? ? ? ? ???: standards compliance, performance and portability. The only difference that I can see is that Dell has the release 1.FC12 and HP has release 1.FC11, seeing that I reinstalled few times but it all the way install the same release. is there any thing I can do to get firefox back?? Are you running Fedora 12 on the Dell, and Fedora 11 on the HP? And what are the basic hardware specs on each. And did you do clean installs or upgrade installs? Are you dual/multi booting? And if so, what OSes? B Both pc running F12 at least I thought, but since you questioning it I start to check and I found that the kernel on HP is Fedora(2.6.30.10-105.2.23.fc11.i686.PAE) I suppose that means HP is runnung F11 I do not remember for sure, I thing that the difference is that at Dell I made a clean installation and at HP I did upgrade, however, both were working fine up to the update. Dell dimension 8300 Intel Pentium 4, 2GB of memory Has 2 HD 120Gb for windows XP and 350 GB for F12 HP zv6000 with AMD Athlon 64 3200+ 1.5GB of memory, use dual boot on single HD 80GB partitioned at 40GB each with windows XP and what I thought was f12. I do not know how to get other hardware info, if it is needed please give me direction on how to get them If you're running GNOME, here's a quick way to check install versions. Menu: System-About this Computer Without getting into what's installed or how it was installed on which machine, try this: Disable SELinux or lower its protection. I've had it cause more problems with various Fedora versions that now I disable it. I'm not running a server, just a one user desktop, so two firewalls (router and system) and being careful has kept me uninfected since Fedora Core 3. Anyway, see if Firefox works. If not and since it apppears that your last update broke firefox, do a 'yum update' on both systems, then 'yum remove firefox', and after that completes, 'yum install firefox'. This should install any firefox dependencies. In my opinion, the easiest thing would be to do clean installs (no upgrade) of F12 on both systems from a newly downloaded, burned and checksummed DVD. Yes, it's a pain, but it will take less time than trying to find out what's currently the problem, and fixing it. Just back up your data, etc. before doing it. FWIW, I've always had problems with upgrading between versions even following the instructions explicitly. I've always ended up with a system that is a mix of the two versions, which ultimately causes problems. Maybe this link will help with your install and configurations. It's a very good reference. I've been using it since FC3 or 4. http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/ B You can try to execute # setenforce 0, to see if this is an SELinux issue. If firefox works now, it was an SELinux issue. You could try # setsebool -P allow_execstack=1 It is probably needed, and see if fixes the issue. Also make sure you are totally yum updated yum -y update Once the machine is
Re: DNS PTR Question
On 02/24/2010 01:19 PM, James Wilkinson wrote: Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I am trying to get a handle on how to properly assign DNS PTR records, given these conditions: 1) Single machine containing: a) DNS Server b) Sendmail Server snip The problem here is assigning the PTR, since only ONE reverse IP address is allowed. In the above case, which will it be, ns1.domain.com or mx1.domain.com? Discovery led to the last scanned entry, which is mx1.domain.com Why is this a potential problem? + One that I can think of, is security verification such as some programs do a reverse IP check to reduce phishing/spamming? Alternate idea: have both mx1 and ns1 as CNAMEs to the “real” host name, and put that “real” host name in the reverse DNS. Don’t forget that you have to have your MX records pointing to that A record: MX pointing to CNAMEs is Not Allowed. Hope this helps, James. So, basically you are saying this? Forward zone contains: == $TTL 172800 @IN SOA host1.domain.com. admin.domain.com. ( 3818 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M ; retry 1W; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ; ==[Nameservers]= @IN NS host1.domain.com. ; ==[Mail Exchangers]= @IN MX 10 host1.domain.com. ; ==[Machines] ns1 IN CNAMEhost1.domain.com. mx1 IN CNAMEhost1.domain.com. host1IN A10.1.0.1 [...] Reverse zone contains: == $TTL 172800 @ IN SOA ns1.domain.com admin.domain.com ( 3818 ; serial 3H; refresh 15M ; retry 1W; expiry 1D ) ; minimum ;[Top-Level]== @ IN NS host1.domain.com. ;[PTRS]=== 1 IN PTR host1.domain.com. [...] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Booting F12 on Mactel
Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Tue, 2/23/10, Leon Stringer leon.strin...@ntlworld.com wrote: I installed F12 on my Intel Mac (Core 2 Duo) but I don't see it in the boot menu when I hold down the option key. [snip] Maybe, this will help. I haven't read it all. Don't have a Mac. http://blog.christophersmart.com/2009/12/02/how-to-triple-boot-mac-pro-with-os-x-fedora-windows/ Thanks for replying. I'd seen that but I thought it would be simpler than that. Oh well, I'll have to dig deeper to get it working. That said, I think the fact the F12 release notes only include instructions on how to *uninstall* is perhaps not the message we should be sending to potential users?! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
2010/2/25 fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us: On Wed, Feb 24, 2010 at 11:14:59PM +0300, Hiisi wrote: 2010/2/24 Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: On 02/24/2010 08:11 AM, Hiisi wrote: 2010/2/24 Kevin J. Cummings cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net: --SNIP-- Well, there is a can of worms! If I attach remotely to the server's CUPs page (@ server:631), I can select Manage Printers which brings me to a page showing me the printers on my server. When I look at the printer in question, I can see buttons for: Print Test Page, Stop Printer, Reject Jobs, Move All Jobs, Cancel All Jobs, Unpublish Printer, Modify Printer, Set Printer Options, Delete Printer, Set As Default, and Set Allowed Users. When I select the Set Allowed Users button, I get the following WWW page: http://::1/admin/?op=set-allowed-usersprinter_name=Printer Why does it change from server:631 to ::1? When I change the URL back to the CUPs Server, I see that the allowed users list is empty, and neither the Allow These Users To Print, nor the Prevent These Users From Printing buttons are checked So, no users are listed for this printer. What can I check next? Please remember, that prior to this weekend, this was working without incident. I have rebooted the Windows XP machine a number of times without changing the perceived behavior. Do I need to reboot the CUPs Server? -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) I don't know. Last time when I was fishing I used polyurethane worms: http://rulla.kuvaboxi.fi/mediaobjects/orig/pub/2009/08/24/8143010478554238833orig.jpg Is it time to yum reinstall cups? -- Reinstalling cups is like the idea that to keep Windoze working you need to reinstall it when it goes bad. Doesn't feel like the right answer, though I don't know what the right answer is. Isn't it the right way of running window$? Reinstall process will not trigger any dependences. Kevin, at the risk of severe information overload, you might want to consider using Wireshark (or other similar tool) to grab some data packets off the network to see what, if anything, Windoze is doing when the printing fails. -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. -- Philippians 4:13 --- -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: GoogleEarth segfault
I think the segfault ain't SELINUX fault. Try to disable Desktop effects before running Google Earth Eduardo Landaveri GNU/Linux User: 433512 Sorry, should have mentioned, GNOME with desktop effects enabled. -Original Message- From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org Cc: Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu Sent: Wed, Feb 24, 2010 10:41 am Subject: Re: GoogleEarth segfault On 02/24/2010 01:39 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 13:28 -0500, Daniel J Walsh wrote: On 02/24/2010 01:09 PM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 12:53 -0500, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I installed the latest GoogelEarth 5.1.3533 from the .bin file (over the top of an older version that I never got working either), ran restorecon on the library directory. SElinux stopped complaining about violations after that, but googleearth still segfaults. This is 64-bit F12 with the nvidia drivers from rpmfusion. Sorry, should have mentioned, GNOME with desktop effects enabled. Anybody with similar experiences? Hints? TIA. Does it work in permissive mode? No. Ok so I am not to blame. :^) getsebool -A | grep allow_exec $ getsebool -a | grep allow_exec allow_execheap -- off allow_execmem -- on allow_execmod -- off allow_execstack -- on All the libraries in /opt/goggle-earth have the following settings after restorecon: -rwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:textrel_shlib_t:s0 Thanks. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On 02/24/2010 05:46 PM, Hiisi wrote: 2010/2/25 fred smith fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us: Reinstalling cups is like the idea that to keep Windoze working you need to reinstall it when it goes bad. Doesn't feel like the right answer, though I don't know what the right answer is. Isn't it the right way of running window$? Reinstall process will not trigger any dependences. This is not Windows, but in the same tradition, after rebooting my CUPs server, I have lost connectivity to this printer from *both* windows machines, both from user and admin accounts. This is frustrating as it points to CUPs as the culprit, but I haven't changed the CUPs configuration in a *long* time. BTW, I can still use the printer from my F11 laptop The next step for me is to delete the printer entirely and re-install it, possibly under F13 when the ALPHA gets released next month Kevin, at the risk of severe information overload, you might want to consider using Wireshark (or other similar tool) to grab some data packets off the network to see what, if anything, Windoze is doing when the printing fails. I'll get to this after the above, but only as a last resort. This printer was originally installed under FC5 as an LPRng printer (as that was the driver that Samsung shipped with it). Samsung has a newer unified driver now, and it may be time to see if the latest Fedora printing support does any better as I'm starting to have problems with duplex printing (that I didn't have when I first installed it). Then again, its on its 3rd set of toner cartridges, and 3rd set of waste toner cartridges, and now its telling me that its time for a new drum and a new belt drive. These two consumables are about to cost me more than I spent on the printer in the first place -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 16:52 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: Did you update to KDE 4.4? If so, check recent postings on the Fedora KDE list. There are some problems with akonadi. See https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde FWIW, I'm still on F11 and it's been working great until this morning when I noticed the system was acting like it was trying to get my attention to update... so I used the SSH console I was in to start the update and noticed a bunch of updates come through... *sigh* I wish I'd known about the KDE4.4 problems... pisses me off that stuff that should have been better tested was pushed out broken! Perhaps you should subscribe to the KDE list. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: DNS PTR Question
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 08:11 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I am trying to get a handle on how to properly assign DNS PTR records, given these conditions: 1) Single machine containing: a) DNS Server b) Sendmail Server ... The problem here is assigning the PTR, since only ONE reverse IP address is allowed. The usual technique is to assign an A record to the hostname you're giving the device (the name that identifies the machine amongst your collection of equipment, or someone else's collection), with a correlating PTR record. Then, you add additional A, MX, and CNAMES for the pretty hostnames you want people to know you by. e.g. hostname of serverone additional pretty names of mail, mx, www, ftp, and so on, and so forth. (Have a look at how a few ISPs or hosting services do this.) If you're going to play with HTTPS and certificates, then you may want to avoid using multiple pretty names, and just one consistent hostname with everything. e.g. hostname of fred PTR for IP back to fred MX pointing to fred That'll make it easier to use the same certificate for everything. Yes, you can have certificates that apply to more than just one specific hostname, but people often get that wrong. With multiple PTRs, you can expect random behaviour from different things. What you test, now, mayn't apply to something else querying the PTR. And you might be bashing your head against a brick wall if you have to deal with something that insists you can only have one PTR per IP. some programs do a reverse IP check to reduce phishing/spamming? The clever ones will find *your* IP, do the PTR check, then check if that PTR IP resolves back to one of your domain names (one the same as in the first query). e.g. Mail from example.com A record check says 192.168.1.2 PTR check says that IP points to www.example.com A record check says 192.168.1.2 Conclusion is that the various hostnames are the same site. And manage to handle the situation where names don't directly match, such as when you have external hosting, but the PTR/Reverse IP checks point to the host's domain names rather than your own. (A bit more than just one forward and back checking would be needed to check that you're legitimately using a service with mismatching names.) e.g. Mail from example.com A record check says 192.168.1.2 PTR check says example.net (woo, different domain, might be fishy) A record check says 192.168.1.2 (same IP, probably okay) Conclusion is that the various domainnames are the same site. Dumb checks will fall apart when they find different domain names while doing forward and backward checks, then do nothing more, prematurely assuming that it's *bad*. You'll lose mail when things do dumb checks, there's nothing you can do about that (if you can't make the forward and backwards name resolution checks agree). NB: Those pseudo check routines are just an illustration of *a* technique you might go through, not necessarily what will be done. How is this to be properly handled? + Separate out DNS and Sendmail services to it's own machine as hinted in example.org? Some say that's a good idea, because failure of one doesn't mean failure of everything (multiple DNS servers, and backup mail servers on your extra MX records), likewise for an exploit in one service being used to attack the other. Others say you may as well use one machine, as a breakdown in either DNS or mail puts you out of action, anyway. Is it possible/sensible to have DNS and Sendmail on the same machine? Yes, I do that here. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12: Sendmail, clamav-milter spamass-milter
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 11:45 -0800, Daniel B. Thurman wrote: I have spent weeks trying to resolve the following issues: I have F9/10/11 working just fine. 1) SendMail - I can get SM to run, but I am unable to send outgoing email messages. Why? Because of some sort of authentication issue refuses to accept the password. Do you mean you can't mail to the outside world, or you simply can't send any mail through it, even to an internal address? Using authentication, I am constantly asked to provide the password via Thunderbird and in failing to accept authorization, it simply disconnects from sendmail. I have added non-authorization step as well, and it is simply rejected the connection with no prompts for a password. From the Thunderbird client, the error message reported is: Sending of message failed. The message could not be sent using SMTP server mx1.domain.com for an unknown reason. Please verify that your SMTP server settings are correct and try again, or contact your network administrator. In the above two cases, the error message I got is: [...] host/domain.com [X.X.X.X] did not issue \ MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA We can only guess without seeing configuration files. You also need to say what type of authentications are being used (simply passwords, encrypted logons, certificates as well, etc.). Are you playing with authorisation, because you have to (it's publicly exposed), or because you want to (for experimenting purpose)? If you don't really need it (e.g. because you have a mail server inside your LAN that can't be externally accessed) then you can avoid trying to get it working. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 18:15:13 -0500 Kevin J. Cummings wrote: The next step for me is to delete the printer entirely and re-install it, possibly under F13 when the ALPHA gets released next month One thing I noticed with printers. I used to have my printer shared via smb, and it some point that stopped working. Rather than figure out why, I shared it via cups and changed the way the printer was accessed in my windows box, and it seemed to work fine after that (but I have to admit, I haven't printed anything from windows for probably almost a year, so I'm not sure it still works :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Historical cpu consumption information?
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 13:42 -0700, Wendell Nichols wrote: To make a long story short it seems to happen when I plug my blackberry in to charge! It seems silly to use a $1000 computer to charge up something, instead of a $20 battery charger. Considering that so many things use USB incorrectly (e.g. expect full power without negotiation, expect to be able to draw more current than the spec allows, etc.), I really dislike self-powered USB devices, and despise things that use USB merely as some sort of power supply. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to Get rid of Dragon Player
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 09:22 -0500, Jim wrote: It doesn't do any good to modify File Assc. kde come right in changes it to Dragon Player again, I had changed to VLC as priority player. I'm not a KDE user, but just a generic observation: Is that for the same type of media, or something that purports to be the same. Such as you set it to play AVIs with something; then something else that's actually a MPEG, but with an AVI suffix, needs separate configuration. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:15 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: This is not Windows, but in the same tradition, after rebooting my CUPs server, I have lost connectivity to this printer from *both* windows machines, both from user and admin accounts. Obvious question: How long did you wait? If SMB is also involved with printing, then machines going on and off the network frequently cause havoc, while the SMB system goes through its who's-the-boss motions. Years ago I observed that SMB doesn't seem to have the concept of logging off. Hence when a machine goes offline, other things get their knickers in a twist because they're still trying to use it. And are still in a twist, for quite some time, if it comes back again. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
From: Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com Subject: Re: firefox lockups after update On 02/24/2010 04:16 PM, Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Vincent Onellivone...@optonline.net wrote: --- On Tue, 2/23/10, vinnyvone...@optonline.net If you're running GNOME, here's a quick way to check install versions. Menu: System-About this Computer Without getting into what's installed or how it was installed on which machine, try this: Disable SELinux or lower its protection. I've had it cause more problems with various Fedora versions that now I disable it. I'm not running a server, just a one user desktop, so two firewalls (router and system) and being careful has kept me uninfected since Fedora Core 3. Anyway, see if Firefox works. If not and since it apppears that your last update broke firefox, do a 'yum update' on both systems, then 'yum remove firefox', and after that completes, 'yum install firefox'. This should install any firefox dependencies. In my opinion, the easiest thing would be to do clean installs (no upgrade) of F12 on both systems from a newly downloaded, burned and checksummed DVD. Yes, it's a pain, but it will take less time than trying to find out what's currently the problem, and fixing it. Just back up your data, etc. before doing it. FWIW, I've always had problems with upgrading between versions even following the instructions explicitly. I've always ended up with a system that is a mix of the two versions, which ultimately causes problems. Maybe this link will help with your install and configurations. It's a very good reference. I've been using it since FC3 or 4. http://www.mjmwired.net/resources/ B You can try to execute # setenforce 0, to see if this is an SELinux issue. If firefox works now, it was an SELinux issue. You could try # setsebool -P allow_execstack=1 It is probably needed, and see if fixes the issue. Also make sure you are totally yum updated yum -y update Once the machine is totally updated, if it still does not work with SELinux in enforcing mode, ping me. I tried all suggestions, firefox is still not load it appears as if try, the starting firefox ... appears at the bottom of screen for few seconds and then disappears. So it is time to do a full installation? I will wait while just in case there may be some new idea to try. Thanks to all of you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:15 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: This is not Windows, but in the same tradition, after rebooting my CUPs server, I have lost connectivity to this printer from *both* windows machines, both from user and admin accounts. Obvious question: How long did you wait? At least 5 minutes before I tried. If SMB is also involved with printing, then machines going on and off the network frequently cause havoc, while the SMB system goes through its who's-the-boss motions. Years ago I observed that SMB doesn't seem to have the concept of logging off. Hence when a machine goes offline, other things get their knickers in a twist because they're still trying to use it. And are still in a twist, for quite some time, if it comes back again. AFAICT, SMB is no longer involved with my printing services. XP can access them directly, and I configure them as an internet printer via a URL like: http://server:631/printers/printerName ISTR that I had to create a special raw queue for them under CUPs so that the Samsung Windows printer driver could talk to them directly (without a postscript conversion). So, while my Fedora computers talk to the lp printer, Windows talk to the raw queues using the Samsung Windows printer drivers. Certainly, these raw queues do not appear to the Windows boxes when I browse for them. Another reason why I think that SMB is no longer involved. -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
Vincent Onelli writes: I tried all suggestions, firefox is still not load it appears as if try, the starting firefox ... appears at the bottom of screen for few seconds and then disappears. So it is time to do a full installation? I will wait while just in case there may be some new idea to try. Thanks to all of you. This shouldn't be this difficult to troubleshoot. Step 1: touch /forefsck shutdown -r now This reboots Fedora. Upon reboot, all your partitions auto-fscked. This should fix any filesystem corruption that might result in application failures, like Firefox. Step 2: rpm -e firefox yum install firefox This removes and reinstalls Firefox, which would fix any unlikely application corruption. If Firefox still fails to start up: Step 3: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozilla.save This removes -- renames actually -- the Firefox configuration directory. The next time Firefox starts, it will create an empty, default, configuration. If Firefox now runs, you had a problem with a corrupted/bad configuration. You, of course, will lose all your bookmarks and extensions. If this fixes your problem, you can later try to recover to salvage and recover whatever your can, from your saved configuration directory. If Firefox still fails to load, there are only two possibilities: A. You're hitting a bone-fide bug in Firefox, for some reason. B. Somehow, some unknown system libraries got corrupted. You may be able to obtain some clues by running firefox from a terminal window, which would dump any errors that Firefox barfs to standard output or standard error, which you would not ordinary see when starting Firefox from the desktop. pgplvA05eah6x.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:55 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 02/24/2010 06:43 PM, Tim wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:15 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: This is not Windows, but in the same tradition, after rebooting my CUPs server, I have lost connectivity to this printer from *both* windows machines, both from user and admin accounts. Obvious question: How long did you wait? At least 5 minutes before I tried. If SMB is also involved with printing, then machines going on and off the network frequently cause havoc, while the SMB system goes through its who's-the-boss motions. Years ago I observed that SMB doesn't seem to have the concept of logging off. Hence when a machine goes offline, other things get their knickers in a twist because they're still trying to use it. And are still in a twist, for quite some time, if it comes back again. AFAICT, SMB is no longer involved with my printing services. XP can access them directly, and I configure them as an internet printer via a URL like: http://server:631/printers/printerName ISTR that I had to create a special raw queue for them under CUPs so that the Samsung Windows printer driver could talk to them directly (without a postscript conversion). So, while my Fedora computers talk to the lp printer, Windows talk to the raw queues using the Samsung Windows printer drivers. Certainly, these raw queues do not appear to the Windows boxes when I browse for them. Another reason why I think that SMB is no longer involved. you're correct - a 'raw' printer is NOT necessarily SMB (though you could choose to share a raw printer via samba) system-config-printing Make sure you have 2 printers... one for the Linux (leave untouched) and one for 'raw' printing. Set the 'make' as Generic and choose 'Raw' printer If port 631 is open, then other users should be able to print via your ip address or name (if you have host name or DNS resolution) port 631 as you indicated above with the printer name being whatever you set for the name in system-config-printing (suggest no spaces because those would likely have to be represented as %20 which is cumbersome at best) Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 16:52 -0500, John Aldrich wrote: Quoting Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com: Did you update to KDE 4.4? If so, check recent postings on the Fedora KDE list. There are some problems with akonadi. See https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/kde FWIW, I'm still on F11 and it's been working great until this morning when I noticed the system was acting like it was trying to get my attention to update... so I used the SSH console I was in to start the update and noticed a bunch of updates come through... *sigh* I wish I'd known about the KDE4.4 problems... pisses me off that stuff that should have been better tested was pushed out broken! you should use Windows or Macintosh because those OS's never push out any broken updates. ;-) Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On 02/24/2010 07:07 PM, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:55 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: AFAICT, SMB is no longer involved with my printing services. XP can access them directly, and I configure them as an internet printer via a URL like: http://server:631/printers/printerName ISTR that I had to create a special raw queue for them under CUPs so that the Samsung Windows printer driver could talk to them directly (without a postscript conversion). So, while my Fedora computers talk to the lp printer, Windows talk to the raw queues using the Samsung Windows printer drivers. Certainly, these raw queues do not appear to the Windows boxes when I browse for them. Another reason why I think that SMB is no longer involved. you're correct - a 'raw' printer is NOT necessarily SMB (though you could choose to share a raw printer via samba) system-config-printing Make sure you have 2 printers... one for the Linux (leave untouched) and one for 'raw' printing. Set the 'make' as Generic and choose 'Raw' printer If port 631 is open, then other users should be able to print via your ip address or name (if you have host name or DNS resolution) port 631 as you indicated above with the printer name being whatever you set for the name in system-config-printing (suggest no spaces because those would likely have to be represented as %20 which is cumbersome at best) Already configured as you suggest. Like I said, this used to work until recently. And I'd be surprised if its the CUPs config, because this is F10 and F10 has been EOL for a while Craig -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
Sam Varshavchik writes: Vincent Onelli writes: I tried all suggestions, firefox is still not load it appears as if try, the starting firefox ... appears at the bottom of screen for few seconds and then disappears. So it is time to do a full installation? I will wait while just in case there may be some new idea to try. Thanks to all of you. This shouldn't be this difficult to troubleshoot. Step 1: touch /forefsck That should be: touch /forcefsck pgpHNnJTvtqmT.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
On Wednesday February 24 2010 16:27:26 John Aldrich wrote: WTF is up with KMail? Ever since I installed a bunch of updates this morning, KMail started having problems. I got a brilliant idea and decided to see if restarting KMail would solve the problem. Well, it didn't. It caused more problems. Now I can't send *anything* and there's a message on my system (at home -- logged into it from remote) stating starting akonadi server. Now WTF is that and why is it not starting??? Happened to me too, I just restarted the desktop and all appears to be well. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
--- On Wed, 2/24/10, Vincent Onelli vone...@optonline.net wrote: [big snip] I tried all suggestions, firefox is still not load it appears as if try, the starting firefox ... appears at the bottom of screen for few seconds and then disappears. So it is time to do a full installation? I will wait while just in case there may be some new idea to try. Thanks to all of you. From your description, it seems Firefox can't find something it needs, and is quitting. Check dmesg for anything. And before doing a complete reinstall, try this: 'yum deplist Firefox'. Check if you have all the proper dependencies. B -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 18:50 -0500, Vincent Onelli wrote: I tried all suggestions, firefox is still not load it appears as if try, the starting firefox ... appears at the bottom of screen for few seconds and then disappears. So it is time to do a full installation? I will wait while just in case there may be some new idea to try. Thanks to all of you. Hi Vincent, You could try starting firefox from a terminal window to observe any messages that appear. -Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: firefox lockups after update
On 25/02/10 14:05, Patrick Bartek wrote: --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Vincent Onellivone...@optonline.net wrote: [big snip] I tried all suggestions, firefox is still not load it appears as if try, the starting firefox ... appears at the bottom of screen for few seconds and then disappears. So it is time to do a full installation? I will wait while just in case there may be some new idea to try. Thanks to all of you. From your description, it seems Firefox can't find something it needs, and is quitting. Check dmesg for anything. And before doing a complete reinstall, try this: 'yum deplist Firefox'. Check if you have all the proper dependencies. B Hi Starting firefox from a terminal with strace may give you some information as well. eg strace firefox -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On 02/24/2010 08:12 PM, Craig White wrote: go to the Windows system, go to Start = Programs = Accessories = Command Prompt and open a telnet session... telnet hostname_OR_ip 631 and see if it responds and how it responds The window clears to just a blinking cursor in the upper left. (I thought I saw a passing Connecting message before it cleared. type QUIT to exit the telnet session let us know what happens I see nothing echoed when I type QUIT, but the cursor advances 4 characters to the right. It sits and spins for a while, then the command prompt returns. Craig -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
you should use Windows or Macintosh because those OS's never push out any broken updates. ;-) -- Again NOT TRUE :( A colleague of mine applied Windows Update (TM) and upon rebooting, she was greeeted with the BSOD (TM) patented by Microsoft. A blue screen was generated and the machine cycled through rebooting back and forth, system restore did not help either. Probably malware that changed the machine(windows kernel?) and new update(patch) wrecked the machine. No remedy but to back up the data(thanks to linux, it was done), put in back the Windows CD and restore back the machine :( But a good try for the humor :) Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 20:22 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 02/24/2010 08:12 PM, Craig White wrote: go to the Windows system, go to Start = Programs = Accessories = Command Prompt and open a telnet session... telnet hostname_OR_ip 631 and see if it responds and how it responds The window clears to just a blinking cursor in the upper left. (I thought I saw a passing Connecting message before it cleared. type QUIT to exit the telnet session let us know what happens I see nothing echoed when I type QUIT, but the cursor advances 4 characters to the right. It sits and spins for a while, then the command prompt returns. That doesn't sound right to me. if I telnet to a system via port 631... Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. QUIT Connection closed by foreign host. something is blocking it. Craig -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
On Wednesday 24 February 2010 20:15:48 Kevin Kempter wrote: I never (ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever...) run any updates (no matter how insignificant they seem) without first running an rsync of my system to a backup directory. It's pretty fast given that it's a diff and in the inevitable case of occasional problems I can rsync my system back to a perfect before I ran the updates state if needed. Hi, I agree. I just posted on this thread that I do an image before applying any updates. I'm wondering...when you rsync back (if you have problems with updates)...do you switch to single-user mode or boot off from CD in order to execute rsync? Best regards, Jorge -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
rsync, vs Partimage, vs other backup
Dear fellow Fedora users list members, On the kmail thread, sarcasm included :), I noticed the references to rsync and partimage respectively. Both are recommended to make backups in order to prevent from BAD UPDATES to render your machine/working programs to a halt :(, and get back up easily. I have not used any of the two and would appreciate some command line examples of how the two work in case I decide to do the same. I have a copy of SystemRescueCD, GpartedLiveCD, in case either of the two are handy in this situation. I have run rawhide and have been lucky to get back up from those BAD UPDATES once in a while and the test list is very generous with their help and guidance. Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: rsync, vs Partimage, vs other backup
I don't have any command line examples to give you, but I once used PartImage and GParted to successfully migrate a three disk RAID 0 NTFS filesystem on a Windows Small Business Server 2003 to a RAID 5. My friend set up the RAID 0 in eager anticipation of blazingly fast storage I/O, only later to realize that he had made the most important computer in his whole business three times more likely to fail unrecoverably. He asked if I could change it to a RAID 5 somehow. I used GParted to resize the filesystem so that it was definitely smaller than the eventual RAID 5 would be. I then used PartImage to image the NTFS filesystem into a file on a large FireWire drive. I used the RAID controller's BIOS to reconfigure the RAID 0 to be a RAID 5, then used PartImage to restore the filesystem from the FireWire drive onto the RAID. Finally I used GParted once again to grow the filesystem to use all of the available space. And it actually worked! I was so dumbfounded. Our Dear Friend Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 did not appear to notice anything had happened at all. As an added benefit, my friend was left with a full backup on that FireWire drive. Mike -- Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com http://www.dulcineatech.com Dulcinea Technologies Corporation: Software of Elegance and Beauty. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On 02/24/2010 08:33 PM, Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2010-02-24 at 20:22 -0500, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 02/24/2010 08:12 PM, Craig White wrote: go to the Windows system, go to Start = Programs = Accessories = Command Prompt and open a telnet session... telnet hostname_OR_ip 631 and see if it responds and how it responds The window clears to just a blinking cursor in the upper left. (I thought I saw a passing Connecting message before it cleared. type QUIT to exit the telnet session let us know what happens I see nothing echoed when I type QUIT, but the cursor advances 4 characters to the right. It sits and spins for a while, then the command prompt returns. That doesn't sound right to me. if I telnet to a system via port 631... Connected to localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1). Escape character is '^]'. QUIT Connection closed by foreign host. That's what I see from my Linux systems. something is blocking it. I agree. But what? Craig -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: ssh tunneling client settings
On 24Feb2010 18:32, Andrew Haley a...@redhat.com wrote: | On 02/24/2010 06:23 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: | Am Mittwoch, den 24.02.2010, 15:57 + schrieb Andrew Haley: | On 02/24/2010 02:41 PM, Christoph Höger wrote: | are there any special client settings one needs to have for ssh | tunneling? | I have the classical setup: machines A1 and A2 (both fedora 12) should | access C which is only accessible from B1 (kerberos) or B2 (private key) | | So on A1 I used to | | ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1 | | or | | ssh -L 10080:C:80 B2 | | Both work fine. | | But on A2: | | ssh -L 10080:C:80 B1/B2 | | logs me in to the machine but every connection attempt returns: | | channel 3: open failed: administratively prohibited: open failed | | Why? What kind of weird setting is this? | | Anything in the logs? Looks like a policy issue to me. | | What logs do you mean? This is a client issue. Does the ssh client write | to local log files? | | No. I think it may be a SELinux policy issue. You also get this if the server end is locked down in the sshd_config or in the key in the authorized_keys file. It is perfectly possible to permit only specific port forwards at the server end. man authorized_keys has details. We do this routinely for batch tunnels and locked down remote access (eg for testers - let them ssh in, no shell, only specific port forwards to the service to test). -- Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au DoD#743 http://www.cskk.ezoshosting.com/cs/ Uh, this is only temporary...unless it works. - Red Green -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
On Wednesday 24 February 2010 18:45:32 Jorge Fábregas wrote: On Wednesday 24 February 2010 20:15:48 Kevin Kempter wrote: I never (ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever...) run any updates (no matter how insignificant they seem) without first running an rsync of my system to a backup directory. It's pretty fast given that it's a diff and in the inevitable case of occasional problems I can rsync my system back to a perfect before I ran the updates state if needed. Hi, I agree. I just posted on this thread that I do an image before applying any updates. I'm wondering...when you rsync back (if you have problems with updates)...do you switch to single-user mode or boot off from CD in order to execute rsync? single user mode Best regards, Jorge -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
Quoting Terry Polzin foxec...@wowway.com: Happened to me too, I just restarted the desktop and all appears to be well. Wish it worked for me... :-( I just restarted my box and Akonadi is STILL trying to start after 2 minutes of KMail trying to start. :-( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: rsync, vs Partimage, vs other backup
On Wednesday 24 February 2010 22:18:19 Antonio Olivares wrote: I have a copy of SystemRescueCD, GpartedLiveCD, in case either of the two are handy in this situation. I have run rawhide and have been lucky to get back up from those BAD UPDATES once in a while and the test list is very generous with their help and guidance. Hello Antonio, I've been using partimage for some years now without a single problem thru the SystemRescueCd. I've used it for ext3 and ntfs as well. I think Fedora 12 is the last version where I'll use it because partimage doesn't support ext4 (lucky I was that I chose ext3 for my root filesystem during F12 installation so I still can use it)...so... if you are already running F12 and you are using ext4 for your root filesystem forget about partimage and try out partclone which may or may not be on the SystemRescueCD. Here's the website: http://partclone.org/index.php On the other hand, Clonezilla is also very popular for creating images. It is more powerful (lots of options) and it can backup/restore images to from the network easily (partimage recently added some network functionality). Clonezilla is used mainly thru its menu-driven interface, so, for anyone without much command-line experience it may be less frightening. However, you still need to know what you are doing! Clonezilla may be overkill for personal use I think... Going back to partimage (or partclone which is similar) you basically need to know well your partitions (where is your root filesystem located etc) so basically when you boot with one of these LiveCD's the first thing you do is an fdisk -l to list the partitions. Once you identify your root filesystem, the next thing you need to find out is WHERE do you want to place your backup image. I usually have one partition on another disk just for this but if you don't have any other disk you may as well use any partition on your existing disk (you can throw the image on your /home partition perhaps...). You can also use any external USB drive to place the image file etc... The nice thing about these imaging tools is that they're filesystem-aware. That is, they will only copy the used bits on the filesystem. Let say you have a 10GB root filesystem but you are only using 2GB out of it The resulting image file will be just 2GB. This is just another reason why it's wiser to have a separate partition for /home. Imagine you just had a single partition for the / filesystem...and that you had around 40Gb in docs, music, videos under /home Since your personal data is under the home directory within the / filesystem... whenever you perform an image backup of your root filesystem you'll be backing up ALL your personal files as well(40GB +) when you only had the intention of backing up your SYSTEM files in order to revert it back in case of problems with the updates. So, as you can see, in order to start into this imaging thing...it's essential that you have a separate partition for your personal data and for your system data. That way, you can use any of these imaging tools to do backups and restores quickly.. Of course, I'm assuming you already have a daily backup plan for your /home data (with rsync , cp etc...). On the specifics (tutorials) you can do a Google search and you'll find plenty. Feel free to ask here if there's anything specific you don't understand. All the best, Jorge -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: rsync, vs Partimage, vs other backup
On 02/24/2010 08:18 PM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Dear fellow Fedora users list members, On the kmail thread, sarcasm included :), I noticed the references to rsync and partimage respectively. Both are recommended to make backups in order to prevent from BAD UPDATES to render your machine/working programs to a halt :(, and get back up easily. I have not used any of the two and would appreciate some command line examples of how the two work in case I decide to do the same. I have a copy of SystemRescueCD, GpartedLiveCD, in case either of the two are handy in this situation. I have run rawhide and have been lucky to get back up from those BAD UPDATES once in a while and the test list is very generous with their help and guidance. partimage is restricted to backing up and restoring entire disk partitions that appear in /proc/partitions, and that partition cannot be currently mounted, not even read-only. It cannot restore to anything other than a partition, which of course must be at least as large as the partition that was backed up. It is fine for restoring the exact state of a file system including all metadata, but is not very useful as a general purpose backup solution. rsync can be used to maintain a mirror of a file system as long as you aren't particular about preserving metadata such as access times and inode numbers. The drawback is that a mirror is for one point in time only. If you want multiple backup levels you have to have storage for several complete mirrors. Personally, I've been using rdiff-backup, which is also included in SystemRescueCD. It combines an rsync mirror with a series of reverse diffs that allow you to restore any subset of the backup to any state that was previously backed up. There's a bit of a learning curve, and right now SELinux context does not seem to get restored (nothing that 'restorecon' can't fix). The main limitations of rdiff-backup are (a) a complete inability to merge together old increments, such as eliminating very old daily increments and leaving just the weekly backup points, and (b) extreme difficulty in deleting something that you really hadn't intended to back up, such as that 4GB DVD image that was temporarily in your home directory. I've managed to handle item b with what is undoubtedly the most incomprehensible 400-line shell script I've ever written, but I've had no success trying to deal with a other than by brute force working through the entire backup history re-creating each restore point that I want to save and creating a new backup from that. Totally impractical! -- Bob Nichols NOSPAM is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Printing from Windows XP
On 02/24/2010 08:43 PM, Kevin J. Cummings wrote: On 02/24/2010 08:33 PM, Craig White wrote: That's what I see from my Linux systems. something is blocking it. I agree. But what? Dumb question - did you check the firewall settings on the Windows machines? I am not sure why, but every so often my sister-in-law's XP machine starts blocking network printers. They have a couple of printers on print servers... Mikkel -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays
I was under the impression that, at most small ISPs, Linux had replaced Unix and played a central role in making things work. But today, I spoke to an ISP employee who told me that Linux was only used for Web servers and that, for routing and firewalling, nobody escaped companies Cisco and Juniper which provide solutions where part of the software has been integrated into hardware for efficiency purposes. Is this correct? Are there more explanations you can provide to make the picture clearer? Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: remote install process/practice
On 02/24/2010 11:26 PM, bruce wrote: Hi. Got a question that nees clarification. Viewed a few sites and have come across different approaches. So figured I'd ask here... I've got a situation where I have a number of remote servers, that need to be setup to install either Centos/Fedora or RHEL. All the systems have an older version of linux, but we want to bring them up to date, and the same OS. So, what's the best approach to accomplish this. One guy I talked to implied that you had to be at the console! I'm inclined to disagree... All the systems are hooked up to the network. I've got root access to remotely access all machines.. So, thoughts/comments/pointers on this would be appreciated!! The only fool-proof way to do this is to have console access. That does not necessarily mean to have to be *at* the console. Some options: Fedora has pre-upgrade, which, if everything goes smoothly, will download the necessary packages to your machine via yum, create an anaconda boot entry, and reboot into it in order to do the installation, and when it is done, reboot the new kernel. What do you do if something goes wrong? If you can set up the machines to have serial consoles, and connect the serial console to a terminal server, you can telnet (or ssh) to the terminal server and have console *access* throughout your upgrade process. Once again, what happens if a reboot fails? At least having some form of console access, you should be able to control grub? yes? no? I've not done this with grub, but I did it once quite a few years ago with lilo Some people have claimed that there is a way to do this via VNC. I've not tried this. If you need access to the CMOS setup after you start the process, you're going to need someone with physical access to the console though That's my take on your problem. I hope this is useful. There may be more answers, but, those are the ones I know about. Thanks -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@rcn.com cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://counter.li.org) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?
I don't have much important data and I do my back-ups in the most simple way by saving my /home directory except for a few directories to a DVD. But K3B asks if i want to save hidden files. If I answer no, the .thunderbird and .evolution directories aren't saved and there's some important data in there. If I answer yes, there then is a sleuth of hidden files that are saved that I don't really need. One way around this is to copy those 2 directories and then rename them without the beginning .. This way you miss a few files or directories if you don't also rename them -- such as .#evolution.sbd and .parentlock -- which... might not be important -- but why the hell are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden in the first place? Thanks! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F12 won't boot after image restored
I made an image of F12 32bit / with partimage a week ago and I used it to restore the partition, partimage reported restoration successful, when I reboot and to start the Fedora 12, here is what displayed and stuck there; [drm:drm_rmfb]*tried to remove a fb that we didn't own boot has failed, sleeping forever. What happened and how to fix it? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:06 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: One way around this is to copy those 2 directories and then rename them without the beginning .. This way you miss a few files or directories if you don't also rename them -- such as .#evolution.sbd and .parentlock -- which... might not be important -- but why the hell are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden in the first place? I'm sure there's a more accurate historical reason, but all of your application's configuration settings and data are stored that way to avoid you deleting things accidentally and keep your home directory clutter free. Under Windows things are hidden away in weird places like C:\Documents and Settings\User\Local Data\Application Data\ but on Unix, everything related to you sits in your home directory. Where else would they put it? There's nothing stopping you from moving the contents of those hidden directories to a non-hidden directory and then creating a symlink it or mount bind. -c -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KMail
John Aldrich wrote: Who's brilliant idea was it to push out a broken update anyway??? It works just fine for most people. Unfortunately, it's hard to tell what exactly is going wrong for you without further information. Kevin Kofler -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Weird DNS issue with a specific web site with Fedora 12 (Temporary failure in name resolution?)
Hi all, Digging around I think the issue is a bug in Fedora 12. I wrote some C code that performs the DNS lookup by two different system calls: gethostbyname2 and getaddrinfo. the later system call always returns the error message 'Temporary failure in name resolution'. Running the code on my computer: $ ./testDNS www.bom.gov.au Getting DNS info for host: www.bom.gov.au Trying gethostbyname hosent details: h_name: www.bom.gov.au h_aliases: h_addrtype: 2 h_length:4 h_addr_list: 210.8.42.125 Trying getaddrinfo Error returned by getaddrinfo: Temporary failure in name resolution I have run the same program on a RHEL4 and RHEL5 computers that are configured with the same windows DNS servers of our organization and they are both able to resolve the address with getaddrinfo successfully. If anyone would like to see the test C code program I am happy to send it. All in all a very weird problem. Tim. On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Tim Long timw...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 7:16 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Wild guess: Look at your resolv.conf files. It is very simple (I think): ; generated by /sbin/dhclient-script search bom.gov.au nameserver 134.178.14.1 nameserver 134.178.14.3 But, with the amount of blanking out of details in your reports, they're next to useless for anyone to diagnose anything with. Have a look at your message headers, if you see the same addresses as you've been hiding, then there's no point hiding them. Post your error reports with the real addresses showing. The full dig messages (querying windows server followed by unix server): [t...@timl ~]$ dig www.bom.gov.au ; DiG 9.6.1-P3-RedHat-9.6.1-16.P3.fc12 www.bom.gov.au ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 15815 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.bom.gov.au. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.bom.gov.au. 14 IN A 210.8.42.125 ;; Query time: 0 msec ;; SERVER: 134.178.14.1#53(134.178.14.1) ;; WHEN: Wed Feb 10 09:47:54 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 48 [t...@timl ~]$ dig @134.178.6.5 www.bom.gov.au ; DiG 9.6.1-P3-RedHat-9.6.1-16.P3.fc12 @134.178.6.5 www.bom.gov.au ; (1 server found) ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33002 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;www.bom.gov.au. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: www.bom.gov.au. 13 IN A 210.8.42.125 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: www.bom.gov.au. 600 IN NS bom-aapt-scss.bom.gov.au. www.bom.gov.au. 600 IN NS bom-aapt-pcss.bom.gov.au. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: bom-aapt-pcss.bom.gov.au. 600 IN A 210.8.186.42 bom-aapt-scss.bom.gov.au. 600 IN A 210.8.42.106 ;; Query time: 1 msec ;; SERVER: 134.178.6.5#53(134.178.6.5) ;; WHEN: Wed Feb 10 09:48:47 2010 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 136 === work around that has been found is to run dnsmasq on the Fedora workstations. Isn't that the kludge suggested for IPv6 problems? (I can't remember.) If so, look into either getting IPv6 working properly, or *completely* disabled. I have heard that dnsmasq has been used as work around bad DNS resolvers inside ADSL modems that don't handle queries for records properly. The workstations in question don't seem to have this issue. IPv6 is enabled but there are no v6 gateways/routers on the network so they only have link-local addresses. Tim. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?
Marcel Rieux wrote: I don't have much important data and I do my back-ups in the most simple way by saving my /home directory except for a few directories to a DVD. But K3B asks if i want to save hidden files. If I answer no, the .thunderbird and .evolution directories aren't saved and there's some important data in there. If I answer yes, there then is a sleuth of hidden files that are saved that I don't really need. One way around this is to copy those 2 directories and then rename them without the beginning .. This way you miss a few files or directories if you don't also rename them -- such as .#evolution.sbd and .parentlock -- which... might not be important -- but why the hell are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden in the first place? Another way around it is to use the nautilus integration with k3b. Unlike k3b, nautilus has a selection for view hidden files. Then you can drag and drop precisely what you need from nautilus to k3b. -- I ate too much plastic candy. --Ralph Wiggum Last Tap Dance in Springfield (Episode BABF15) signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?
Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I don't have much important data and I do my back-ups in the most simple way by saving my /home directory except for a few directories to a DVD. But K3B asks if i want to save hidden files. If I answer no, the .thunderbird and .evolution directories aren't saved and there's some important data in there. If I answer yes, there then is a sleuth of hidden files that are saved that I don't really need. One way around this is to copy those 2 directories and then rename them without the beginning .. This way you miss a few files or directories if you don't also rename them -- such as .#evolution.sbd and .parentlock -- which... might not be important -- but why the hell are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden in the first place? Another way around it is to use the nautilus integration with k3b. Unlike k3b, nautilus has a selection for view hidden files. Then you can drag and drop precisely what you need from nautilus to k3b. If you are a KDE user, you can drag/drop from dolphin -- Forrest Gump: They sending me to Vietnam - it's this whole other country signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?
On 02/25/2010 07:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I don't have much important data and I do my back-ups in the most simple way by saving my /home directory except for a few directories to a DVD. But K3B asks if i want to save hidden files. If I answer no, the .thunderbird and .evolution directories aren't saved and there's some important data in there. If I answer yes, there then is a sleuth of hidden files that are saved that I don't really need. One way around this is to copy those 2 directories and then rename them without the beginning .. This way you miss a few files or directories if you don't also rename them -- such as .#evolution.sbd and .parentlock -- which... might not be important -- but why the hell are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden in the first place? Another way around it is to use the nautilus integration with k3b. Unlike k3b, nautilus has a selection for view hidden files. Then you can drag and drop precisely what you need from nautilus to k3b. Another simple way would be: move .thunderbird and .evolution to some not-hidden files and let .thunderbird be a soft link to that not-hidden file. Regards -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?
Joachim Backes wrote: On 02/25/2010 07:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I don't have much important data and I do my back-ups in the most simple way by saving my /home directory except for a few directories to a DVD. But K3B asks if i want to save hidden files. If I answer no, the .thunderbird and .evolution directories aren't saved and there's some important data in there. If I answer yes, there then is a sleuth of hidden files that are saved that I don't really need. One way around this is to copy those 2 directories and then rename them without the beginning .. This way you miss a few files or directories if you don't also rename them -- such as .#evolution.sbd and .parentlock -- which... might not be important -- but why the hell are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden in the first place? Another way around it is to use the nautilus integration with k3b. Unlike k3b, nautilus has a selection for view hidden files. Then you can drag and drop precisely what you need from nautilus to k3b. Another simple way would be: move .thunderbird and .evolution to some not-hidden files and let .thunderbird be a soft link to that not-hidden file. When one has to make changes like that...and remember they made them...and why...and it conflicts with normal operation I, personally, wouldn't classify that as simple. :-) -- All men have the right to wait in line. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?
Ed Greshko wrote: Joachim Backes wrote: On 02/25/2010 07:58 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I don't have much important data and I do my back-ups in the most simple way by saving my /home directory except for a few directories to a DVD. But K3B asks if i want to save hidden files. If I answer no, the .thunderbird and .evolution directories aren't saved and there's some important data in there. If I answer yes, there then is a sleuth of hidden files that are saved that I don't really need. One way around this is to copy those 2 directories and then rename them without the beginning .. This way you miss a few files or directories if you don't also rename them -- such as .#evolution.sbd and .parentlock -- which... might not be important -- but why the hell are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden in the first place? Another way around it is to use the nautilus integration with k3b. Unlike k3b, nautilus has a selection for view hidden files. Then you can drag and drop precisely what you need from nautilus to k3b. Another simple way would be: move .thunderbird and .evolution to some not-hidden files and let .thunderbird be a soft link to that not-hidden file. When one has to make changes like that...and remember they made them...and why...and it conflicts with normal operation I, personally, wouldn't classify that as simple. :-) Oh, the other reason I wouldn't do that It may happen that you download the latest thunderbird tar file from Mozilla and forgetfully extract it in your home directory Oooops -- What will you do if all your problems aren't solved by the time you die? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
