[389-users] inactivating some users after few days
Hi Friends, I have installed and configured 1.26a2 on Centos 5 and now want to implement a new role/policy for inactivating of some user accounts after few days like 30/45 days. The passwords of these users should remain same rather their account get should get locked or disabled something like 'usermode -e 2010-05-20 username' on a linux machine. Is there any way I can do the same on 389? Regards Ankush -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
[389-users] Documentation for pam pass
Hello, Does anyone know if there is more pam pass through documentation out there. I see the FDS how to but it does not explain how to connect to the other server. I am trying to use my 389 server for authorization but OpenLDAP for authentication. Thank you -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Tell me proper URL for yum checking
MAKOTO SHIMADA wrote: Hi all I am using Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 (RHEL4), but have a problem which the Red Hat company does not support. Since RHEL is a closely related with Fedora, I would like to ask your favor. I need to install yum on my RHEL4 workstation. I installed yum2.0.7, which appears to be succeeding in. Then I conducted “yum check-update” but got error messages as follows; # yum check-update Gathering header information file(s) from server(s) Server: Red Hat Linux 4WS - x86_64 - Base retrygrab() failed for: http://mirror.dulug.duke.edu/pub/yum-repository/redhat/4WS/x86_64/headers/header.info Executing failover method failover: out of servers to try Error getting file http://mirror.dulug.duke.edu/pub/yum-repository/redhat/4WS/x86_64/headers/header.info [Errno 4] IOError: urlopen error I understand that the URL may be wrong in the setting. Even if so, I do not know what is proper URL. Please tell me proper setting. Followings are the current contents of /etc/yum.conf [main] cachedir=/var/cache/yum debuglevel=2 logfile=/var/log/yum.log pkgpolicy=newest distroverpkg=redhat-release tolerant=1 exactarch=1 [base] name=Red Hat Linux $releasever - $basearch - Base baseurl=http://mirror.dulug.duke.edu/pub/yum-repository/redhat/$releasever/$basearch/ [updates] name=Red Hat Linux $releasever - Updates baseurl=http://mirror.dulug.duke.edu/pub/yum-repository/redhat/updates/$releasever/ Exactly what are you trying to update via yum? You can't update the base packages of RHELv4 via yum since RH does not support yum at that release level. You need to use their up2date. Additionally, RH requires a subscription to update. In RHELv5 yum is used instead of up2date. But, again, you need a subscription to update. If you need the stability of RHEL, but don't/can't want to pay for a subscription there is always the well known clone CentOS. -- Those who can, do; those who can't, write. Those who can't write work for the Bell Labs Record. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Tell me proper URL for yum checking
Yes, and what he told you is that there is no legal URL for a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 yum repository. A Red Hat Network subscription (which uses up2date) is required. Now if you happen to have an RHN subscription, up2date can be coerced into using a third party yum repository. See /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources If you don't have an RHN subscription, you can convert your RHEL4 to CentOS4 by replacing the redhat-release with centos-release (IIRC) then use the CentOS4 yum repositories. -- Chris Kloiber On 03/18/2010 04:09 AM, SHIMADA, MAKOTO wrote: Thanks Ed Greshko; Exactly what are you trying to update via yum? No, I routinely use up2date to keep my RHEL4 machine up to date. You can't update the base packages of RHELv4 via yum since RH does not support yum at that release level. I know that. However, I need to install another software,which require yum. So, I have to install yum before the installation of the software. What I need is the URL to solve the IOError:urlopen error. Thanks. Mark smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re[2]: Tell me proper URL for yum checking
Thanks Chris Kloiber: Yes, and what he told you is that there is no legal URL for a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 yum repository. I think I get the picture. I found the /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources. I will try according the information. If you don't have an RHN subscription, I have an RHN subscription for RHEL4. Best. On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 04:17:48 -0400 Chris Kloiber ckloi...@ckloiber.com wrote: Yes, and what he told you is that there is no legal URL for a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 4 yum repository. A Red Hat Network subscription (which uses up2date) is required. Now if you happen to have an RHN subscription, up2date can be coerced into using a third party yum repository. See /etc/sysconfig/rhn/sources If you don't have an RHN subscription, you can convert your RHEL4 to CentOS4 by replacing the redhat-release with centos-release (IIRC) then use the CentOS4 yum repositories. -- Chris Kloiber -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re[2]: Tell me proper URL for yum checking
Thanks Ed Greshko; What you need is the repository information for the software you want to install Yes it is. I'm beginning to understand. So, my yum.conf contains... I will try using this information. So, what is the other software you need to install? I need to install GBrowse 2.0 and am trying to do according to the Section about installation using RPM System (yum) of the following site http://gmod.org/wiki/GBrowse_2.0_Prerequisites Best. On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:31:19 +0800 Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Tell me proper URL for yum checking
SHIMADA, MAKOTO wrote: I need to install GBrowse 2.0 and am trying to do according to the Section about installation using RPM System (yum) of the following site http://gmod.org/wiki/GBrowse_2.0_Prerequisit What I would do is 1. Satisfy whatever prerequisites you can using up2date, since you said you do have a rhn subscription. Packages like httpd and subversion are already available in RHELv4. 2. If not all needed packages are available on RHN, I would then head to http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/epel/4/i386/repoview/epel-release.html download and install epel-release-4-9.noarch.rpm 3. Use yum to install the remaining prerequisites. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: unlock screen dialog box empty
Dj YB wrote: On Monday March 15 2010 21:25:45 Rex Dieter wrote: Try resetting your kde pixmap cache, rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache-user/kpc and restart your session, repeating for each theme. I did the rm then tried seamless\oxygen\air with no success. thanks, is there anything else I can try? Try as a new/fresh user (ie, with an initially empty ~/.kde), and see if it''s reproducible. -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
No more mirrors are available popup box
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, Which applet/deamon/cron job is responsible for popping up this dialog box ? I have a local repository configured in my yum repos, so this applet/deamon/cron job is not finding any mirrors (which it shouldn't even be looking for, in this case). The window icon is the same as the [System] - [Administration] - [Add/Remove Software] icon. Any suggestions as to how to turn this off? Thank you, and all the best, - -Greg - -- +-+ Please also check the log file at /dev/null for additional information. (from /var/log/Xorg.setup.log) | Greg Hosler ghos...@redhat.com| +-+ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Fedora - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkuiJicACgkQ404fl/0CV/StGgCfRmRoXiZxwxHMgsf2vIV7grd/ 8wkAnjMi8mNdTei/xLtFGWrZ+MOAeioB =z3DM -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
KDE Plasmoid regressions?
Hi folks! :-) I didn't ask about this since KDE 4.4.0 because I thought it was just a temporary glitch or something, but now in 4.4.1 I see the same thing, so it makes sense to ask: (1) How do I switch the Digital Clock plasmoid from am/pm mode to 24hr mode? How do I make Monday to be the first day of the week in the calendar? (2) How do I switch the System Monitor - Temperature plasmoid from the Fahrenheit to Celsius mode? (3) How do I adjust the colors of graphs in CPU and Network system monitor plasmoids? In KDE 4.3 I sort of remember I had all this set up right, but since 4.4.0 it reverted automatically to these weird defaults, while appropriate options in plasmoids settings have been removed?! This is happening on both F11 and F12. Or am I missing something obvious? Thanks, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Plasmoid regressions?
In KDE 4.3 I sort of remember I had all this set up right, but since 4.4.0 it reverted automatically to these weird defaults, while appropriate options in plasmoids settings have been removed?! This is happening on both F11 and F12. Or am I missing something obvious? Don't think you are missing anything :(, I noticed too that Display settings are no longer there when I want the screen to blank, I had it setup to 2 minutes, and now it takes a while to blank by itself :(, somehow defaults came back? Regards, Antonio -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What is IP Address ::1 ?
On 3/17/10 7:03 PM, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: Fetchmail produced a number of errors like: connection to localhost:smtp [::1/25] failed: Connection refused. These appeared to be caused by this /etc/hosts file: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 ::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6 which has two possible resolutions for localhost, one of which, namely ::1, isn't recognized. I attempted to fix things by eliminating the ::1 line, to produce the hosts file: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 But using this file causes mounts on /media to fail (in my case a detachable hard drive and a camera). Both problems are cured with this hosts file: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 ::1 localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6 All this seems related to IPV6 configuration, but how isn't clear to me. Can anyone elucidate? Should I file a bug against the original /etc/hosts ? In explanation, ::1 is the IPV6 equivalent of the IPV4 127.0.0.1. There is nothing inherently wrong with having two IPs for a given host name (often done in DNS for DNS round robin load balancing), although it's not often done mixing IPV4 and IPV6. As to why stuff on /mount would fail, that should have nothing to do with networking, unless the mounts are NFS or Samba mounts. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Plasmoid regressions?
Marko Vojinovic wrote: Hi folks! :-) I didn't ask about this since KDE 4.4.0 because I thought it was just a temporary glitch or something, but now in 4.4.1 I see the same thing, so it makes sense to ask: (1) How do I switch the Digital Clock plasmoid from am/pm mode to 24hr mode? How do I make Monday to be the first day of the week in the calendar? systemsettings-regionallanguage -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: network bridge default MTU -- apparent change (SOLVED)
On 03/17/2010 05:49 PM, Joe Conway wrote: On 03/17/2010 05:44 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:28:42 -0700 Joe Conway wrote: A bit more sleuthing and I found that the culprit is dhclient. I am using a dynamically assigned address (pinned to a static IP at my dhcp server), and I bet you are not. A downgrade makes the problem go away: My host machine is using a static IP, but it is the dhcp server for my other machines (including my virtual machines), so I guess dhclient isn't involved on my host, just in the guests. Yes, I'm using dhclient for my host as well. I guess I could just switch to a static IP for my host as a workaround. For the sake of posterity, an explanation of the root cause and a solution can be found here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574629 Joe signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mail clients - which way forward?
On 03/13/2010 11:00 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would assume that if Enigmail is no longer available, something will appear to take its place. I can't believe the TB folks would simply drop support for PGP encryption. Maybe this is just wishful thinking ... BTW: You probably know this Patrick, but Enigmail is usually available in the Fedora repos. I would love to see PGP natively supported. I used to use Claws, but there are times when I want to receive and send html. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
FC12, KDE-4, Keyring
Fedora12/KDE4.4 Where is the Keyring Password for enabling Wireless in KDE ? I do not have gnome-keyring-manager installed and KwalletManager does not show any passwords. I want to change the keyring password for User . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Plasmoid regressions?
On 03/18/2010 10:09 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote: Don't think you are missing anything :(, I noticed too that Display settings are no longer there when I want the screen to blank, I had it setup to 2 minutes, and now it takes a while to blank by itself :(, somehow defaults came back? Regards, Antonio Hi, check you standy/suspend options with xset -q after that try system settings - Advanced - Power Management: In general settings : check Let PowerDevil manage screen powersaving select Perfomance in the option when AC adaptor is plugged in In edit profiles: select Performance after that select screen tab there activate Enable display power management and change standby and/or suspend time options regards, Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Routing choice under user control per application instance?
Hi!
I am wondering whether it is possible to choose TCP/IP routing
for a specific instance of an application - chosen on user-level
when the application is started?
More specifically I have a workstation with 2 Internet
connections (different devices), and I would like to have some
applications connecting to Internet using one connection while
other applications connecting to Internet using the other
connection, where I choose which application instance use which
connection.
I control the whole workstation (root, hardware) so I can do
whatever on the machine, but not the router / connection.
Any idea?
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Re: network bridge default MTU -- apparent change (SOLVED)
On 03/18/2010 11:53 AM, Joe Conway wrote: On 03/17/2010 05:49 PM, Joe Conway wrote: On 03/17/2010 05:44 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Wed, 17 Mar 2010 17:28:42 -0700 Joe Conway wrote: A bit more sleuthing and I found that the culprit is dhclient. I am using a dynamically assigned address (pinned to a static IP at my dhcp server), and I bet you are not. A downgrade makes the problem go away: My host machine is using a static IP, but it is the dhcp server for my other machines (including my virtual machines), so I guess dhclient isn't involved on my host, just in the guests. Yes, I'm using dhclient for my host as well. I guess I could just switch to a static IP for my host as a workaround. For the sake of posterity, an explanation of the root cause and a solution can be found here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=574629 Thank you _ever_ so much for posting that. I've been trying to figure out why on earth my Comcast broadband connection kept getting stuck with 576 for the MTU. The Comcast DHCP server must have been recalling that from an old lease, because my FC-12 laptop would get an MTU of 1500 but my FC-12 desktop kept getting 576 (connecting each directly to the modem). Happy at MTU=1500 now. -- Bob Nichols NOSPAM is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Jobulator
Does anyone know how to install Jobulator (finds jobs for substitute teachers)? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Jobulator
the form you find it in should tell you, rpm, other ? On 03/18/2010 03:12 PM, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: Does anyone know how to install Jobulator (finds jobs for substitute teachers)? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Jobulator
quick look seems like a windows mac only app... On 03/18/2010 03:12 PM, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: Does anyone know how to install Jobulator (finds jobs for substitute teachers)? -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Jobulator
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 15:12 -0700, AnneMarie Robinson wrote: Does anyone know how to install Jobulator (finds jobs for substitute teachers)? From the jobulator FAQ (under What operating systems will Jobulator run on?): Jobulator will also not run on Linux. Jobulator needs Yahoo! Widgets installed in order to run. Yahoo! Widgets is only available for Windows and MacOS. Your only options are to either experiment with installation of Yahoo! Widgets and jobulator under wine or just install VirtualBox and run a virtual machine with windows. The latter option kind of defeats the purpose of a widget. birger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: unlock screen dialog box empty
On Thursday March 18 2010 13:45:53 Rex Dieter wrote: Dj YB wrote: On Monday March 15 2010 21:25:45 Rex Dieter wrote: Try resetting your kde pixmap cache, rm -rf /var/tmp/kdecache-user/kpc and restart your session, repeating for each theme. I did the rm then tried seamless\oxygen\air with no success. thanks, is there anything else I can try? Try as a new/fresh user (ie, with an initially empty ~/.kde), and see if it''s reproducible. with new user there is no problem... any idea what to look for? thanks, YB. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Routing choice under user control per application instance?
On Thu, 2010-03-18 at 14:07 -0600, S P Arif Sahari Wibowo wrote: Hi! I am wondering whether it is possible to choose TCP/IP routing for a specific instance of an application - chosen on user-level when the application is started? More specifically I have a workstation with 2 Internet connections (different devices), and I would like to have some applications connecting to Internet using one connection while other applications connecting to Internet using the other connection, where I choose which application instance use which connection. I control the whole workstation (root, hardware) so I can do whatever on the machine, but not the router / connection. Any idea? I have not done what you are requesting. I did an Internet search and came to the following conclusions: 1) You can mark packets using iptables. The marking can be based on type of traffic, ex: html, smtp, etc. 2) You then use ip routing to do what is called policy routing. You have multiple routing tables. The routing table to be used will be selected based on the marking. I will suggest you look at the following URL and see if it helps you. This URL is not for the faint of heart: http://linux-ip.net/html/adv-multi-internet.html The key overview to understand this URL is the summary near the top: Quoting from the URL, ...Before beginning let's outline the process we are going to follow. * Copy the main routing table to another routing table and set the alternate default route [38]. * Use iptables/ipchains to mark traffic with fwmark. * Add a rule to the routing policy database. * Test! I have not personally done this. I can't do much more than give you the URL reference. You will need to determine if this as a possible solution for you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Shared home directory and NIS
I have access to several linux machines at work and they're all on a single nis domain. My home dir is on an nfs mount and is the same for all machines. I have xrdp installed on all of them but because the home dir is shared I find that the second session behaves badly. firefox wont start and any desktop that has log files fights with its counterpart on the other desktop. Is there a way to overcome this? I cannot change the nis and shared home dir setup... wcn -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Shared home directory and NIS
On 3/18/10 5:43 PM, Wendell Nichols wrote: I have access to several linux machines at work and they're all on a single nis domain. My home dir is on an nfs mount and is the same for all machines. I have xrdp installed on all of them but because the home dir is shared I find that the second session behaves badly. firefox wont start and any desktop that has log files fights with its counterpart on the other desktop. Is there a way to overcome this? I cannot change the nis and shared home dir setup... wcn This is a shortcoming of NFS in general. If the NFS server supports NLM locking, then the clients should be set up to mount your home directory using NLM locks (in Linux parlance, adding lock to the mount options). This may or may not work, depending on whether the applications involved use fcntl() or flock() to do locking (most Linux systems use fcntl()). It can also be dangerous if the exported filesystem has mandatory locking enabled. You said you can't change shared home dir setup, so you may be SOL. Sorry. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - 500: Internal Fortune Cookie Error - -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Routing choice under user control per application instance?
On Thu, Mar 18, 2010 at 17:58:07 -0500, Rick Sewill rsew...@gmail.com wrote: This URL is not for the faint of heart: http://linux-ip.net/html/adv-multi-internet.html That site is for old kernels. Some stuff might still apply, but be careful. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
