Re: F12 shutdown oddity

2010-05-24 Thread Dick Roark
Yup, those are the symptoms.  Your's and my computer are probably working
just fine. Maybe we'll get an update sooner or later.  Meanwhile, no harm
done (so far).

Thanks for the reply,

Dick

On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Gary Waters linuxnuts...@videotron.cawrote:

 On 05/22/2010 09:30 PM, Dick Roark wrote:
  I have just upgraded to F12. Basically, no problems except when I go
  through the gnome shutdown process, F12 seems to go into a suspended
  state, rather than shut-down (green power LED and fan stays on). From
  this state I can press the power button and it shuts down.  This does
  not seem to damage anything, as I have been required to do this several
  times and the system boots fine.  Is there a setting that will allow me
  do shutdown in the ordinary manner?  Thanks.
 

 I had this happen on my notebook on Friday. It never happened before.
 The green power LED was on and It caught my attention just before I put
 the notebook into my laptop packsack before heading home.

 Gary


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Re: voice with empathy and gtalk on F12

2010-05-24 Thread Adel ESSAFI
Well, I solved this,

there was some packages missing

just  do

su -c yum -y install gstreamer-plugins-base gstreamer-plugins-good
gstreamer-plugins-bad

and  things goes right

regards


Adel


2010/5/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com

 hi list

 I have tried empathy with F10 sucessufully.

 However, in F12 I could not communicate with voice with my google contacts.
 There is a short ring and then it stops.

 do you have any experience with this?

 regards
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 ps: the version is Empathy 2.28.2

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Fwd: voice with empathy and gtalk on F12

2010-05-24 Thread Adel ESSAFI
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From: Adel ESSAFI adel.s...@imag.fr
Date: 2010/5/24
Subject: Re: voice with empathy and gtalk on F12
To: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org


Well, I solved this,

there was some packages missing

just  do

su -c yum -y install gstreamer-plugins-base gstreamer-plugins-good
gstreamer-plugins-bad

and  things goes right

regards


Adel


2010/5/21 Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com

hi list

 I have tried empathy with F10 sucessufully.

 However, in F12 I could not communicate with voice with my google contacts.
 There is a short ring and then it stops.

 do you have any experience with this?

 regards
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 ps: the version is Empathy 2.28.2

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Re: Fedora Community Gaming - Why aren't you there?

2010-05-24 Thread Dennis Mattingly
My gaming has been slowing down, since my job is terrible right now.

I usually play Quake Wars or ZSNES on my machine.
But I would gladly try other games if it promotes Linux.

The biggest headache for joining is that I don't read these messages / lists
very much.
Perhaps a better idea would be to use another standard way of Fedora
communication, like IRC or such?
Or make an announcement on the wiki like Every Monday Night ...
That would work better for me.
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Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was
 succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I
 have my Bugzilla login ID and password set in the bugzilla ABRT
 plugin. I don't think my oops reports are going anywhere. Any
 suggestions as to what might be broken.


It might be loading it to kerneloops.org instead

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Re: Fedora Community Gaming - Why aren't you there?

2010-05-24 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 07:16:21 -0400,
  Dennis Mattingly dennismattinglyzz...@gmail.com wrote:
 My gaming has been slowing down, since my job is terrible right now.
 
 I usually play Quake Wars or ZSNES on my machine.
 But I would gladly try other games if it promotes Linux.
 
 The biggest headache for joining is that I don't read these messages / lists
 very much.
 Perhaps a better idea would be to use another standard way of Fedora
 communication, like IRC or such?

Where and how much in advance?

We got a couple people out of #fedora-games who were hanging around when
things get started for armacycles this past weekend. Would announcing something
there an hour or two in advance be better?

 Or make an announcement on the wiki like Every Monday Night ...
 That would work better for me.

There are several issues here.

Currently we don't have a best time and so it's a bit early to standardize on
time. The 1700 UTC time seems like it should be good for NA, SA and EU which
likely covers a good chunk of our users.

Standardizing on a single time per week will make it difficult for some people
to play. This may be a necessary evil to make things work though.

I can't commit to sponsoring games every week. Until other people start
stepping up to organize as well as play, we really can't run every week.
If this actually starts taking off, then I would expect a SIG to form
to get sponsors to sign up and run events regularly. Maybe specific games
would run specific weeks of the month or something.

I probably would be giving up about now, but I have found it useful for me
to learn games. Usually someone who plays regularly shows up and teaches
me something about how to play (either about playing the game itself or
about good setup values to use). Eventually I'd like to get my weekly
LAN game group to try playing some Fedora games instead of the Windows ones
we currently play. And knowing good set up values and how to play more games
will help with this.
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Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
I don't know if this is a software issue, or if the printer is just
broken. (I'm using Fedora 12)

Basically, I can print fine using plain paper/normal quality. But If I
try to print photo quailty/photo paper, the image is overscaled (about
twice the size), displaced so that the centre prints around the left
edge, and only prints black - no colour.

I have hplib installed (by downloading from the hp site and following
the instructions - many weeks ago).

I have managed to print photo quality before (at least once). Does this
sound like a familiar problem to anyone?
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Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:40 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
 I have hplib installed (by downloading from the hp site and following
 the instructions - many weeks ago).

Step 1: uninstall this.

If you want HPLIP installed, install the Fedora package:

System  Administration  Add/Remove Software

See if you still get the same problem -- if so, please report a bug in
Bugzilla.

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Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
 Tim == Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com writes:

Tim On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 13:40 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
 I have hplib installed (by downloading from the hp site and
 following the instructions - many weeks ago).

Tim Step 1: uninstall this.

Tim If you want HPLIP installed, install the Fedora package:

Tim System  Administration  Add/Remove Software

Tim See if you still get the same problem -- if so, please report a
Tim bug in Bugzilla.

I had that installed before, but then my wife wanted to scan documents,
and I was advised on the list to use the HP download. Scanning wouldn't
work before, and it did after i did that download.

Nevertheless, I will try it, and report back.
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Re: Question about this user list

2010-05-24 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 03:26:31PM +0930, Tim wrote:
 On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 14:18 -0500, David A. Paredes Rios wrote:
  fedora 13 release is in 4 days so the questions are going to be valid
  here :D
 
 Quite probably, and certainly in a few days time.  ;-)
 
  im must asking because i wrote aquestion here but nothings answer
  me :(..
 
 I saw a question from you a few days back, but questions about Fedora 13
 RC3 were, and probably still are, more likely to get an answer on the
 test list.  A lot of people on this list won't be using the pre-release
 candidates, and faults need fixing before something leaves the testing
 phase.  I don't use it, so I can't answer that query.

FYI, RC3 was accepted as the final release.  So anything needing
fixing at this point has to be addressed via standard updates to the
stable release, or else be diverted to Fedora 14.

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Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Tim Waugh
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:35 +0100, Colin Paul Adams wrote:
 I had that installed before, but then my wife wanted to scan documents,
 and I was advised on the list to use the HP download. Scanning wouldn't
 work before, and it did after i did that download.

OK.  Install libsane-hpaio as well to get scanning support.

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ntpd query failure

2010-05-24 Thread Kelvin Ku
We run 'ntpdate -q' once daily to check the ntpd sync status of the hosts in
our network. On one host, this check is failing sporadically today:

$ for i in `seq 1 10` ; do ntpdate -q 192.168.129.110 ; sleep 1 ; done
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset -0.001034, delay 0.02693
24 May 10:11:16 ntpdate[3742]: adjust time server 192.168.129.110 offset 
-0.001034 sec
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset -0.000997, delay 0.02701
24 May 10:11:17 ntpdate[3747]: adjust time server 192.168.129.110 offset 
-0.000997 sec
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset 0.00, delay 0.0
24 May 10:11:18 ntpdate[3752]: no server suitable for synchronization found
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset 0.00, delay 0.0
24 May 10:11:19 ntpdate[3757]: no server suitable for synchronization found
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset -0.000162, delay 0.02878
24 May 10:11:20 ntpdate[3762]: adjust time server 192.168.129.110 offset 
-0.000162 sec
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset 0.00, delay 0.0
24 May 10:11:21 ntpdate[3767]: no server suitable for synchronization found
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset 0.00, delay 0.0
24 May 10:11:22 ntpdate[3772]: no server suitable for synchronization found
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset 0.00, delay 0.0
24 May 10:11:24 ntpdate[3777]: no server suitable for synchronization found
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset -0.001079, delay 0.02701
24 May 10:11:25 ntpdate[3782]: adjust time server 192.168.129.110 offset 
-0.001079 sec
server 192.168.129.110, stratum 4, offset 0.00, delay 0.0
24 May 10:11:26 ntpdate[3787]: no server suitable for synchronization found

It seems to fail 6/10 checks consistently, whereas normally it succeeds on all
attempts.

This is the ntpd configuration on 192.168.129.110:

$ cat /etc/ntp.conf
driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift

server 192.168.24.39
server 192.168.24.80
server 192.168.132.51
server 192.168.132.83

$ cat /etc/sysconfig/ntpd
# Drop root to id 'ntp:ntp' by default.
OPTIONS=-u ntp:ntp -p /var/run/ntpd.pid -x

The host is running F12, 2.6.32.10-90.fc12.x86_64. I was previously seeing this
ntp sync problem on F12, 2.6.32.11-99, so I thought it was a problem with that
kernel, but apparently not.

- Kelvin
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Fedora Hard Disk Encryption and FIPS 140-2 Compliance

2010-05-24 Thread Edmon Begoli
Does anyone know if Fedora's HD encryption is, or could it be, compliant with
US NIST requirement for hard disk encryption included in NIST FIPS 140-2?

http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/#05

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Re: Fedora Hard Disk Encryption and FIPS 140-2 Compliance

2010-05-24 Thread Robert G. (Doc) Savage
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 10:42 -0400, Edmon Begoli wrote:
 Does anyone know if Fedora's HD encryption is, or could it be, compliant with
 US NIST requirement for hard disk encryption included in NIST FIPS 140-2?
 
 http://csrc.nist.gov/groups/STM/cmvp/#05
 
 Thanks.

FIPS compliance testing is a cumbersome and expensive exercise in
paperwork. It's usually farmed out to a 3rd party independent lab for
upwards of $20K per cert. The only open source software project I know
that has successfully obtained FIPS 140-2 compliance certification is
OpenSSL, and they took on the task themselves.

Note that the requirement for FIPS compliance was brought about by FISMA
2002. This law and NIST's implementation have been justly criticized for
their emphasis on paperwork documentation in the certification and
accreditation (CA) process. Security experts estimate upwards of 80% of
CA budgets are being wasted on such binder-ware. A new FISMA 2010 is
making its way through Congress that will change that emphasis to more
practical measures like pen-testing and automated status monitoring.

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Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread M. Fioretti
On Mon, May 24, 2010 13:40:43 PM +0100, Colin Paul Adams 
(co...@colina.demon.co.uk) wrote:

 I don't know if this is a software issue, or if the printer is just
 broken. (I'm using Fedora 12)

Colin,

this may have nothing to do with your problem, but... does what you
report depend on the photo paper brand? I mean, does this happen the
same way if you try with HP and non-HP photo paper?

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Re: SELinux error booting backup f12

2010-05-24 Thread jackson byers
Dan Walsh wrote:
 You should not need either.

 selinux=0

 Disables SELinux.  The boot system leaves a flag around telling the
 system that SELinux has been disabled.  The next time you enable it
 (booting without the selinux=0 flag) the system forces a relable.  Which
 means every file/dir/device/etc gets a label added to it.

 enforcing=0, means all syscalls that SELinux would have blocked are
 allowed  and all of the labeling continues.

 F12 is booting without either flag,
 selinux in enforcing mode for the vast majority of users.
  Now that you have relabeled.  I would bet your
 system will boot with out either flag.

Dan,
you are correct! thank you very much.
Sending this email booted back into my f12backup without either flag.
Your explanation helps me understand this much better.

Jack
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Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Philip Prindeville
I have an archived rmail-style mbox that I want to move into my Imap 
message store.

Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into 
individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap 
connection?

Thanks,

-Philip

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Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Philip Prindeville wrote:
 I have an archived rmail-style mbox that I want to move into my Imap
 message store.

 Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into
 individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap
 connection?

 Thanks,

 -Philip

In dovecot RPM package is perl script perfectmaildir.pl which do this 
conversion.

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Imap/s certificate issue?

2010-05-24 Thread Philip Prindeville
I'm seeing the following on my mail server:

May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: accepted connection
May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters
May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: SSL_accept() incomplete -  wait
May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: sslv3 alert certificate unknown in 
SSL_accept() -  fail
May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imaps TLS negotiation failed: 
builder.redfish-solutions.com [192.168.1.10]
May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed
May 24 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: process 25484 exited, status 75
May 24 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: service imaps pid 25484 in BUSY state: 
terminated abnormally
May 24 11:55:48 mail master[31932]: process 25328 exited, status 0


it's not clear why this happens, and indeed that host is able to retrieve 
email...

Both are running FC12 updated, which makes it all the stranger.  The UA on 
builder is Thunderbird.

Any idea what I'm seeing and why?

Thanks,

-Philip


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Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Tom Horsley
On Mon, 24 May 2010 11:59:48 -0600
Philip Prindeville wrote:

 Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into 
 individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap 
 connection?

I don't know about perl, but I clearly remember importing giant
mbox files into my imap server using claws-mail. It wouldn't
surprise me if almost every mail client had an import function
somewhere in the menus.
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Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
Frantisek Hanzlik wrote:
 Philip Prindeville wrote:
 I have an archived rmail-style mbox that I want to move into my Imap
 message store.

 Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into
 individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap
 connection?

 Thanks,

 -Philip

 In dovecot RPM package is perl script perfectmaildir.pl which do this
 conversion.

 Franta Hanzlik

I was too hurry, perfectmaildir.pl places mails directly to user maildir 
directory, not over IMAP connection. Sorry.
FH
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Re: Imap/s certificate issue?

2010-05-24 Thread Rex Dieter
Philip Prindeville wrote:

 I'm seeing the following on my mail server:
 
 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: accepted connection
 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters
 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: SSL_accept() incomplete -  wait
 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: sslv3 alert certificate unknown in
 SSL_accept() -  fail May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imaps TLS
 negotiation failed: builder.redfish-solutions.com [192.168.1.10] May 24
 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed May
 24 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: process 25484 exited, status 75 May 24
 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: service imaps pid 25484 in BUSY state:
 terminated abnormally May 24 11:55:48 mail master[31932]: process 25328
 exited, status 0
 
 
 it's not clear why this happens, and indeed that host is able to retrieve
 email...
...
 Any idea what I'm seeing and why?

which imap server are you using here?  does the ssl cert in question 
validate ok?

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Re: Printing photo-quality on HP deskjet F4180

2010-05-24 Thread Colin Paul Adams
 Tim == Tim Waugh twa...@redhat.com writes:

Tim See if you still get the same problem -- if so, please report a
Tim bug in Bugzilla.

Still the same problem.
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Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 11:59 -0600, Philip Prindeville wrote:
 I have an archived rmail-style mbox that I want to move into my Imap 
 message store.
 
 Anyone have a Perl script that will read an mbox, split it into 
 individual messages, and then redeliver those messages via an Imap 
 connection?

Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, Evolution,
Claws, whatever ...)

poc

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OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread aragonx
Hello all,

It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way
that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an
emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)).

I've searched Google and found plenty of information on how to make an
outbound connection, but nothing for inbound.  The mobile broadband
connections all give you a dynamic IP and are on-demand.  So the
connection would drop as soon as it was not being used.  I thought that I
could write a script to keep the connection alive and pass the IP but if
the server goes down...

It was said that years ago, you could connect a modem to a cell phone and
that it would answer the call just like on a land line.  If I could find
something like that, we would be in business.

As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Can't Burn DVD

2010-05-24 Thread Jim
FC12-X86_64

A Blank DVD is in /dev/scd0 and I can Burn DVD's from K3B.

Trying to run this command from dvdauthor and also ran it from command 
line and get the error below.

# dvdrecord -dao speed=2 dev=0,0,0 /tmp/Pacific/dvd.iso

WARNING: the deprecated pseudo SCSI syntax found as device specification.
Support for that may cease in the future versions of wodim. For now,
the device will be mapped to a block device file where possible.
Run wodim --devices for details.
dvdrecord: No such file or directory.
Cannot open SCSI driver!
For possible targets try 'wodim --devices' or 'wodim -scanbus'.
For possible transport specifiers try 'wodim dev=help'.
For IDE/ATAPI devices configuration, see the file README.ATAPI.setup from
the wodim documentation.


[r...@acer64 mickey]# wodim --devices
wodim: Overview of accessible drives (1 found) :
-
  0  dev='/dev/scd0' rwrw-- : 'HL-DT-ST' 'DVDRAM GH15F'
-


dvdrecord is in /usr/bin/dvdrecord

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using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread terry
I've looked  through the systems  administation but cannot figure how 
to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something 
without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root
thank you.
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Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Bill Davidsen
arag...@dcsnow.com wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way
 that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an
 emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)).
 
 I've searched Google and found plenty of information on how to make an
 outbound connection, but nothing for inbound.  The mobile broadband
 connections all give you a dynamic IP and are on-demand.  So the
 connection would drop as soon as it was not being used.  I thought that I
 could write a script to keep the connection alive and pass the IP but if
 the server goes down...
 
 It was said that years ago, you could connect a modem to a cell phone and
 that it would answer the call just like on a land line.  If I could find
 something like that, we would be in business.
 
 As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
Is there some reason not to use a land line? This is going to be your last 
fallback, using a land line or IP connected service board would seem to be the 
well known tech, unless there's a good reason for being a pioneer.

A netbook with mobile broadband would be plan B if you really have the need, it 
has it's own UPS, can connect and start a VPN if it detects the server is down, 
etc. For a long outage you might want a model which can wake on timer, has SSD, 
and otherwise can be useful for days without power.

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Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht

arag...@dcsnow.com writes:
 It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way
 that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an
 emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)).

There are smartphone clients for ssh.  I've got one on my Android phone
that lets me log into my Fedora box remotely.  see:
http://code.google.com/p/connectbot/

I only allow ssh RSA logins for security, so in my case I needed to make
a fresh RSA key and copy it to the phone's flash filesystem.  If you
allow un*x passwords, just installing the ssh client itself is
sufficient.

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[OT] strip attachments from archived emails

2010-05-24 Thread Craig White
I have to assemble emails for printing and there seems to be little
reason to print the binary attachment and I would rather just strip them
out.

The emails are on my own imap server (cyrus) and I have copies of them
but is there some reasonable way to remove the attachments?

Craig


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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread David García Granda
Hi Terry,

 I've looked  through the systems  administation but cannot figure how
 to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something
 without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root

You need to edit /etc/sudoers file. Check man sudoers for more information.

HTH,

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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Erik P. Olsen
On 24/05/10 22:11, terry wrote:
 I've looked  through the systems  administation but cannot figure how
 to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something
 without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root
 thank you.

Look into /etc/sudoers. That's where you enable sudo.

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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, terry xtly...@charter.net wrote:
 I've looked  through the systems  administation but cannot figure how
 to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something
 without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root
 thank you.

I assume that you would like it where the sudo does not require a
password either? In that case su into a root terminal login and type
visudo. Twards the bottom of the file there is a line that is
commented out that allows all users of the wheel group to access all
commands without a password. Uncomment the line and save the file,
i.e. :wq. Use the GUI User and Groups control panel to add yourself
to the wheel group and logout and back in. If you did everything
correctly then you should be able to sudo command anything and it
should work without prompting for a password.

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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Peter Larsen
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 16:11 -0400, terry wrote:
 I've looked  through the systems  administation but cannot figure how 
 to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something 
 without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root
 thank you.

alt-f2 
su -c visudo

Sudo isn't a gui app, so there's no gui option to maintain it.

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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/24/2010 03:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, terry xtly...@charter.net wrote:
 I've looked  through the systems  administation but cannot figure how
 to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something
 without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root
 thank you.
 
 I assume that you would like it where the sudo does not require a
 password either? In that case su into a root terminal login and type
 visudo. Twards the bottom of the file there is a line that is
 commented out that allows all users of the wheel group to access all
 commands without a password. Uncomment the line and save the file,
 i.e. :wq. Use the GUI User and Groups control panel to add yourself
 to the wheel group and logout and back in. If you did everything
 correctly then you should be able to sudo command anything and it
 should work without prompting for a password.
 


Evil foolishness!  One should always require a password for sudo.  It's
like an Are You Sure? prompt.


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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Sharpe
On 24 May 2010 22:07, Steven Stern subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
 On 05/24/2010 03:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
 Towards the bottom of the file there is a line that is
 commented out that allows all users of the wheel group to access all
 commands without a password.

 Evil foolishness!  One should always require a password for sudo.  It's
 like an Are You Sure? prompt.

Of course I am sure, that's why I prefixed the command with the word sudo ;oP

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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Richard Shaw
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Steven Stern
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com wrote:
 On 05/24/2010 03:48 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
 On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, terry xtly...@charter.net wrote:
 I've looked  through the systems  administation but cannot figure how
 to put myself in the file where I can use  say sudo yum something
 without having to use su ,  passwd each time I need to be root
 thank you.

 I assume that you would like it where the sudo does not require a
 password either? In that case su into a root terminal login and type
 visudo. Twards the bottom of the file there is a line that is
 commented out that allows all users of the wheel group to access all
 commands without a password. Uncomment the line and save the file,
 i.e. :wq. Use the GUI User and Groups control panel to add yourself
 to the wheel group and logout and back in. If you did everything
 correctly then you should be able to sudo command anything and it
 should work without prompting for a password.



 Evil foolishness!  One should always require a password for sudo.  It's
 like an Are You Sure? prompt.

I don't setup mine with the NOPASSWD option, but he asked... :)

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Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Alan Cox
 The reason we are considering this is because the servers are going to be
 at remote client sites where we have no control over the network and
 placing a DSL or other hard lines are not desirable.

You can get SMS controlled power switches. So the 'large attention
button' can be activated from a phone.

Alan
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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread Steven Stern
On 05/24/2010 05:17 PM, kalinix wrote:
 On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 16:07 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:
 Evil foolishness!  One should always require a password for sudo.  It's
 like an Are You Sure? prompt.
 
 Yeah, and why not put script that ask you hundreds of times, Are you
 sure? And then, on one hundred an one time let you do exactly what you
 wanted to do in the first place.
 That's M$ crap. Linux users are much more smarter than that. Well, at
 least a large part of them :D
 
 

I'm always sure, even as I delete an entire partition.  Oops.

In reality, the reason for requiring a sudo password challenge is that
you don't want someone who walks up to your computer to have root privs.
At the very least, they have to know your password to use sudo.


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Re: using sudo

2010-05-24 Thread kalinix
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 17:35 -0500, Steven Stern wrote:

 In reality, the reason for requiring a sudo password challenge is that
 you don't want someone who walks up to your computer to have root privs.
 At the very least, they have to know your password to use sudo.
 
 
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Now, this is a little bit different than Are you sure thing :)

Over and out.


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Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Rahul Sundaram writes:


On 05/25/2010 03:43 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Rahul Sundaram writes:


On 05/24/2010 08:15 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

Several times I had ABRT claim that my kernel oops report was
succesfully uploaded, yet I cannot find the bug reports in Bugzilla. I
have my Bugzilla login ID and password set in the bugzilla ABRT
plugin. I don't think my oops reports are going anywhere. Any
suggestions as to what might be broken.



It might be loading it to kerneloops.org instead


Although I understand that patching upstream content in Fedora is
avoided wherever necessary, I think that Fedora kernels have
sufficient amount of patching to make a good argument to send kernel
oopses to the Fedora bugzilla, to be vetted by the kernel maintainers,
before passing the oopses upstream.


Generally, upstream kernel developers don't have a problem with users
running Fedora kernel and filing bug reports directly upstream.  The
case for oopses is similar.   The number of oopses that are related to
Fedora specific patches are such a low number. 


Ok. Oh, and I did poke around the plugin -- it is indeed sending the oopses 
to kerneloops. It's a bit misleading, since the fields I get to fill in, 
before submitting the report, are Bugzilla fields, leading me to believe 
that's where the oops is going.





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Re: OT: Cell phone connection to server

2010-05-24 Thread Michael Cronenworth
arag...@dcsnow.com wrote:
 It has been suggested to me that we should setup a cell phone in a way
 that would allow us remote access to our Linux boxes in case of an
 emergency where the server was down (using a remote service board (ILO)).

 I've searched Google and found plenty of information on how to make an
 outbound connection, but nothing for inbound.  The mobile broadband
 connections all give you a dynamic IP and are on-demand.  So the
 connection would drop as soon as it was not being used.  I thought that I
 could write a script to keep the connection alive and pass the IP but if
 the server goes down...

 It was said that years ago, you could connect a modem to a cell phone and
 that it would answer the call just like on a land line.  If I could find
 something like that, we would be in business.

 As always, any help would be greatly appreciated.

What problem are you attempting to solve?

Do you need a remote connection via your network, into your network, so 
you can check on the status of box foo?

Do you need a remote connection into your network, in the case of a 
power/network outage, so you can check on the status of box foo?
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Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Matthew Saltzman writes:

On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: 

On 05/23/2010 08:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 Right now, Gnome shows an alert bubble when I have somewhere between
 15 and 20 minutes remaining on battery power (varies). When there's a
 couple of minutes left, an automatic shutdown gets initiated.

 I would like to adjust the thresholds. I want to be alerted when I
 have about 30 minutes of power left, and initiate a shutdown when the
 battery has 15 minutes of power left.

 I cannot find any adjustment knobs in Power Management in
 preferences, for this. Are these settings adjustable somewhere?

There are gconf keys :  apps - gnome-power-manager -  thresholds


Is there one for what level to start recharging at?  My battery manager
under Windows suggests that the level should be allowed to drop to about
80% before recharging, to maximize battery life.  But Linux seems to
want to recharge at about 97%.


Huh? Whether or not my battery is charging depends on whether it's getting 
AC power. If it's on AC power, it charges. When the battery is full it stops 
charging, and from that point it runs on AC power, without taking the juice 
from the battery.




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Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 18:42 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 I did poke around the plugin -- it is indeed sending the oopses 
 to kerneloops. It's a bit misleading, since the fields I get to fill
 in, before submitting the report, are Bugzilla fields, leading me to
 believe that's where the oops is going.

Their bugzilla?  There's more than one.  Though, they wouldn't be
sharing your user details between them, so either they accept data
without you having to set up an account with them ahead of time, or your
bug reporting tool would have to handle creating a new account or
re-using one it set up previously.

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Re: ABRT is not reporting my bugs

2010-05-24 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 05/25/2010 04:12 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:

 Ok. Oh, and I did poke around the plugin -- it is indeed sending the
 oopses to kerneloops. It's a bit misleading, since the fields I get to
 fill in, before submitting the report, are Bugzilla fields, leading me
 to believe that's where the oops is going.

File a RFE with Abrt and ask them to get it fixed by say, adding a note
clarifying where the data is going.  

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Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 19:04 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: 
 Matthew Saltzman writes:
 
  On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 20:48 +0530, Rahul Sundaram wrote: 
  On 05/23/2010 08:38 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
   Right now, Gnome shows an alert bubble when I have somewhere between
   15 and 20 minutes remaining on battery power (varies). When there's a
   couple of minutes left, an automatic shutdown gets initiated.
  
   I would like to adjust the thresholds. I want to be alerted when I
   have about 30 minutes of power left, and initiate a shutdown when the
   battery has 15 minutes of power left.
  
   I cannot find any adjustment knobs in Power Management in
   preferences, for this. Are these settings adjustable somewhere?
  
  There are gconf keys :  apps - gnome-power-manager -  thresholds
  
  Is there one for what level to start recharging at?  My battery manager
  under Windows suggests that the level should be allowed to drop to about
  80% before recharging, to maximize battery life.  But Linux seems to
  want to recharge at about 97%.
 
 Huh? Whether or not my battery is charging depends on whether it's getting 
 AC power. If it's on AC power, it charges. When the battery is full it stops 
 charging, and from that point it runs on AC power, without taking the juice 
 from the battery.

Not always.  If you allow the battery to drain just a percent or two and
plug it back in, it won't charge.  If you drain it a bit more, it will.
The Thinkpad battery manager from Lenovo takes that a step further,
suggesting that that recharge threshold should be set lower (and it is
settable)--around 80%.  So even on AC power, the battery won't charge
unless it's been drained below that level.  

The Lenovo folks apparently think that many very short charging cycles
(such as if you usually run plugged in, but suspend to transport the
machine rather than shutting down) or keeping the battery fully charged
for long periods of time without draining it shortens overall battery
life.  Who am I to disagree?

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Re: Importing an mbox into Imap

2010-05-24 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
 Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird,
 Evolution, Claws, whatever ...)

I've tried this with fairly large spool files, on Evolution (painfully
slow, and needs doing in chunks - select a month's mail, drag and drop
it between folders), and Thunderbird (eventually fails part way through,
even in chunks, with no clue as to how far along it got).  So I'd like
to find a good tool for doing this, too.

-rw--- 1 tim tim 663987436 2010-03-05 18:21 /home/tim/mail/lists/Fedora

Thanks to the slowness (the above would take hours and hours), I've left
my mail server still running on FC4.  The last attempt at moving the
mail, aborted because I simply don't have the time to babysit a machine
for that amount of time, I copied the spool file onto a newly set up
CentOS box as /var/mail/tim and tried dragging the contents of the inbox
to another folder through the IMAP server on the CentOS box, figuring
that that'd be quicker that trying to network it between two mail
servers.  It was still excruciatingly painfully slow.

I want to move from spool files to maildir, because it's getting
impossible to use with huge spool files.  Any status change of the spool
file takes ages to complete, and you can't do anything else while you
wait (e.g. you can't read another message).

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Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Matthew Saltzman writes:


Not always.  If you allow the battery to drain just a percent or two and
plug it back in, it won't charge.  If you drain it a bit more, it will.
The Thinkpad battery manager from Lenovo takes that a step further,


I think this battery manager thingy is some custom job for their hardware 
only. It's my understanding that charging and power management-related stuff 
is handled by the BIOS, and the stock power management interface to the 
running operating system is mostly an interface that reports the battery 
level and the charging status.


I don't think that, per se, a generic operating system has any control over 
whether the battery is charging or not. The Thinkpad battery management 
thingy is probably using some Thinkpad-specific access.



The Lenovo folks apparently think that many very short charging cycles
(such as if you usually run plugged in, but suspend to transport the
machine rather than shutting down) or keeping the battery fully charged
for long periods of time without draining it shortens overall battery
life.  Who am I to disagree?


I tend to agree. I think that my current battery is over a year old, and 
it's still at 85% of its original capacity. I've been running it on long 
discharge/charge cycles.





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Re: Adjust remaining battery power warning threshold

2010-05-24 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 19:04 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
 Whether or not my battery is charging depends on whether it's getting 
 AC power. If it's on AC power, it charges. When the battery is full it
 stops charging, and from that point it runs on AC power, without
 taking the juice from the battery.

It depends on the laptop.  The older ones just have simply hardware
control of charging, as you described.  Newer ones have firmware control
of charging, and some allow you to vary the parameters.

In theory, more intelligent control of the battery should prolong its
life (though mine only lasted about two years, so that's not an
improvement).  And I can see the potential for really bad settings to be
set.  I hope the firmware has sensible defaults for when an OS doesn't
try to control the charging.

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Available memory

2010-05-24 Thread Henry Wyatt
In systemabout this computer I had 98.1 gib available memory.  Now I have
95.1 oh were oh were did 3gib go?
Did not install any new software, did update preupgrade.
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Re: Imap/s certificate issue?

2010-05-24 Thread Philip Prindeville
On 5/24/10 12:53 PM, Rex Dieter wrote:
 Philip Prindeville wrote:


 I'm seeing the following on my mail server:

 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: accepted connection
 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters
 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: SSL_accept() incomplete -   wait
 May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: sslv3 alert certificate unknown in
 SSL_accept() -   fail May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imaps TLS
 negotiation failed: builder.redfish-solutions.com [192.168.1.10] May 24
 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed May
 24 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: process 25484 exited, status 75 May 24
 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: service imaps pid 25484 in BUSY state:
 terminated abnormally May 24 11:55:48 mail master[31932]: process 25328
 exited, status 0


 it's not clear why this happens, and indeed that host is able to retrieve
 email...
  
 ...

 Any idea what I'm seeing and why?
  
 which imap server are you using here?  does the ssl cert in question
 validate ok?

 -- Rex



I'm using cyrus-imapd-2.3.16-3.fc12.x86_64

It's a self-signed cert, so I'm not sure what you mean by validate ok...


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Re: Available memory

2010-05-24 Thread Siddhesh Poyarekar
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Henry Wyatt hewjr1...@gmail.com wrote:
 In systemabout this computer I had 98.1 gib available memory.  Now I have
 95.1 oh were oh were did 3gib go?
 Did not install any new software, did update preupgrade.

I assume you mean Available disk space. It is the amount of disk
space unused on your system, so it will decrease if you put more files
into the disk. Even something as trivial as web browsing can add to
this disk space even if you don't actually download and save anything
to your disk. The space will increase if you delete files from your
disk.


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Re: Available memory

2010-05-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 09:04 +0530, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
 On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Henry Wyatt hewjr1...@gmail.com wrote:
  In systemabout this computer I had 98.1 gib available memory.  Now I have
  95.1 oh were oh were did 3gib go?
  Did not install any new software, did update preupgrade.
 
 I assume you mean Available disk space. It is the amount of disk
 space unused on your system, so it will decrease if you put more files
 into the disk. Even something as trivial as web browsing can add to
 this disk space even if you don't actually download and save anything
 to your disk. The space will increase if you delete files from your
 disk.

He said he used preupgrade. That probably accounts for a fair amount of
space, if yum is configured to cache package rpms.

poc

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Re: New to Linux - BIOS before 2000?

2010-05-24 Thread Mercury Rising
On 5/20/10, Rares Aioanei scha...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thursday, May 20, 2010 09:20:31 pm Mercury Rising wrote:
 hi,

 I got so tired of windows problems - viruses, screen - computer
 freezes, I
 just stuck in a Linux for non-geeks CD and loaded it.  It wiped my
 hard
 drive as expected, but I kept getting an error near the end of the
 install.

That was when I was using the Linux For Non-Geeks 2 CD set.

 A friend gave me another Linux loader, but it gives me an error
 saying my BIOS
 was 1997 and I needed a a 2000 BIOS or better.

That loader is Freespire.  The error message says:
[0.001 ACPI:BIOS Age (1997) fail cutoff (2000) force is required
to enable APCI

Blue loading line oscillates and red hard drive light stays on
continuously after that.


 The machine has a Pentium 3
 with 550 MHz CPU with over 700 Megs memory but a small hard
 drive of just
 10 Gigs with a swappable drive in pull out bay with a grab bar.  I was
 using Windows XP Pro 2000 for OS.  I installed a USB 2.0 on it that
 worked
 most of the time. The computer also has USB 1.0 hardware as well.
  I have done a lot of Google searches to see if I could
 find Linux and a GUI that would be as easy as a Mac or XP
 environment for
 a 1997 BIOS machine.

 Any ideas on a good Linux load for such an old machine?  With the
 XP I
 could print to a office jet 7410 all-in-one printer, scanner fax with
 no
 problems.

 Browsing the Internet was ok, but video - youtube was mostly non-
 worable -
 mostly too slow.
 Ok, let's take it one step at a time :
 1. We will need the error message you got related to the BIOS.
 2. What did you mean when saying that you installed a USB 2.0 on
 it?
 3. I think you have chances to find Fedora appropriate for your
 system, with carefully chosen applications installed.

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