Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
On 05/24/2010 07:40 PM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, Evolution, Claws, whatever ...) I've tried this with fairly large spool files, on Evolution (painfully slow, and needs doing in chunks - select a month's mail, drag and drop it between folders), and Thunderbird (eventually fails part way through, even in chunks, with no clue as to how far along it got). So I'd like to find a good tool for doing this, too. -rw--- 1 tim tim 663987436 2010-03-05 18:21 /home/tim/mail/lists/Fedora Hi, so it's more a year of Fedora mails, in a file, I has the same problem tens of thousands emails, I evaluate mbox, vs maildir, decided keep with mbox in separated files, because trying to rsync that quantity of emails in maildir well seemed in my case take a long time. seems which your only options to separate the mbox are: procmail but I'm unable to find a procmail recipe to evaluate the original date field from a email to construct a mailbox in the format fedora_year_month/ deliver from dovecot using a sieve script, that I have it working (I have the sieve rules to evaluate the date from the email but I need to extract the relevant parts from the script because filter many things more which mailing lists and is only tested with deliver from dovecot, so if you don't use dovecot will not work for you and will take hours, but will be automatic Gabriel -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, Evolution, Claws, whatever ...) I've tried this with fairly large spool files, on Evolution (painfully slow, and needs doing in chunks - select a month's mail, drag and drop it between folders), and Thunderbird (eventually fails part way through, even in chunks, with no clue as to how far along it got). So I'd like to find a good tool for doing this, too. -rw--- 1 tim tim 663987436 2010-03-05 18:21 /home/tim/mail/lists/Fedora Thanks to the slowness (the above would take hours and hours), I've left my mail server still running on FC4. The last attempt at moving the mail, aborted because I simply don't have the time to babysit a machine for that amount of time, I copied the spool file onto a newly set up CentOS box as /var/mail/tim and tried dragging the contents of the inbox to another folder through the IMAP server on the CentOS box, figuring that that'd be quicker that trying to network it between two mail servers. It was still excruciatingly painfully slow. I want to move from spool files to maildir, because it's getting impossible to use with huge spool files. Any status change of the spool file takes ages to complete, and you can't do anything else while you wait (e.g. you can't read another message). If it's your own mail server and your running an imap server like dovecot which uses maildir format, then just use the dovecot script to convert your mbox file directly into the file space of the imap server. Just make sure you understand how the script works and that your putting the files in the right place (I've never used that script). You may have to build the indexes after the files are moved. Another option is to use a local mail client to split the file into several smaller folders before trying to move it into imap. Nataraj -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Imap/s certificate issue?
Philip Prindeville wrote: I'm seeing the following on my mail server: May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: accepted connection May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imapd:Loading hard-coded DH parameters May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: SSL_accept() incomplete - wait May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: sslv3 alert certificate unknown in SSL_accept() - fail May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: imaps TLS negotiation failed: builder.redfish-solutions.com [192.168.1.10] May 24 11:55:30 mail imaps[25484]: Fatal error: tls_start_servertls() failed May 24 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: process 25484 exited, status 75 May 24 11:55:30 mail master[31932]: service imaps pid 25484 in BUSY state: terminated abnormally May 24 11:55:48 mail master[31932]: process 25328 exited, status 0 it's not clear why this happens, and indeed that host is able to retrieve email... Both are running FC12 updated, which makes it all the stranger. The UA on builder is Thunderbird. Any idea what I'm seeing and why? Thanks, -Philip It sounds to me like it is complaining about the client certificate, not the server certificate. Have you configured the imap server to require a client certificate? Can other clients connect without problems? Was anything changed when this problem came up? Was this working before or is it a new installation? Nataraj -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
gnome/and gconf-sharp2
Hi All, I am not sure if I should ask the questions here. I try to install ifolder client in Fedora 12 and always got the error messages: [r...@cook i586]# rpm -ivh ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1. i586.rpm warning: ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 3a9159a7 error: Failed dependencies: gconf-sharp2 is needed by ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1.i586 gnome-sharp2 is needed by ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1.i586 does anyone know how to fix it? Thanks. Cheers, Lyndon. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Can't establish connection -
I have two f12 computers, box9 will ping box6 but box6 to box9 reports 100% loss. When we had Firestarter there was a log that usually indicated where the firewall was blocking data. It seems to me there should be a way to determine this without Firestarter? How do I do that? [b...@box6 ~]$ service sshd status openssh-daemon (pid 1522) is running... Pinging the numerical addresses does not help. Thanks. Bob -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: gnome/and gconf-sharp2
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 18:24 +1000, Lyndon Lu wrote: I try to install ifolder client in Fedora 12 and always got the error messages: [r...@cook i586]# rpm -ivh ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1. i586.rpm warning: ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1.i586.rpm: Header V3 DSA signature: NOKEY, key ID 3a9159a7 error: Failed dependencies: gconf-sharp2 is needed by ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1.i586 gnome-sharp2 is needed by ifolder3-3.8.0.9328.1-3.1.i586 does anyone know how to fix it? By installing the thing it needs. If you use yum localinstall instead of rpm -ivh, then yum will try to get the other things it needs to complete the installation. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 23:49 -0700, Nataraj wrote: If it's your own mail server and your running an imap server like dovecot which uses maildir format, then just use the dovecot script to convert your mbox file directly into the file space of the imap server. I am, though don't know the script your referring to. I should probably have a look at a newer CentOS install, in case it has something that the older one doesn't. You may have to build the indexes after the files are moved. Hmm, the sort of thing I was hoping to avoid. If I used a mail client to move the mail, it'd move the messages in a manner that was directly usable, straight away. Rather than play games directly with the files. Another option is to use a local mail client to split the file into several smaller folders before trying to move it into imap. Might give that a go, but I suspect that's still going to be a lot of time-consuming work. Likewise for taking the first 10,000 lines of text from a spool, chopping into two files between message sections, and proceeding that way. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 01:06 -0500, Gabriel Ramirez wrote: so it's more a year of Fedora mails, in a file, Most definitely. There's a few other big ones, but none are nearly as big as that one. I has the same problem tens of thousands emails, I evaluate mbox, vs maildir, decided keep with mbox in separated files, because trying to rsync that quantity of emails in maildir well seemed in my case take a long time. A while back I tried comparing mbox to maildir with a staggeringly large number of messages, and found mbox to stay nippy, whereas maildir grinds to a snail's pace, and just gets worse and worse. I'm not trying to keep backup copies, of these, so that issue wouldn't arise for me. seems which your only options to separate the mbox are: procmail but I'm unable to find a procmail recipe to evaluate the original date field from a email to construct a mailbox in the format fedora_year_month/ I figured on keeping them all in one folder, rather than separately archiving different periods. So I ought to be able to run some commands that just move *everything* in mbox here over to maildir there? and will take hours, but will be automatic I do use dovecot. I'm not against it spending ages to complete, so long as it actually does, and doesn't need me to manage it along the way. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Ext4 anomalies.
Howdy, I have had my FC12 system installed since February this year and have experienced this particular problem twice so far. The problem does NOT happen frequently... Just long enough for me to become complacent that it was a fluke. Files in /root have become empty, 141 of them this time. Their update dates are all the same, about 2 minutes before I noticed the problem this time. Has anyone seen this kind of problem? If not, I'd like to set some traps if they are available so that I can find out how this happens and eliminate it. Any hints/tips/suggestions/clues would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, George... It's not what you know that hurts you, It's what you know that ain't so. Wil Rogers -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't establish connection -
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 05:17 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have two f12 computers, box9 will ping box6 but box6 to box9 reports 100% loss. When we had Firestarter there was a log that usually indicated where the firewall was blocking data. It seems to me there should be a way to determine this without Firestarter? How do I do that? Ordinarily, firewall denials aren't logged, else you'd be logging an awful lot of data. Data that's only of use to people who actually do something with it. If you want logging, you have to arrange it. That can be done without firestarter, but I've only set firewall rules by running iptables commands in a script. I don't use the GUI tools to set complex firewall rules. It's quite likely that you've simply firewalled off ping replies. I've not install Fedora 12 yet, but older releases had a basic firewall configuration preference that you could select filtering of various ICMP traffic. You'll want to make sure that echo replies and requests aren't blocked. Don't firewall off ICMP traffic willy-nilly, you can break networking by doing so. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't establish connection -
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 05:17 -0400, Bob Goodwin wrote: I have two f12 computers, box9 will ping box6 but box6 to box9 reports 100% loss. When we had Firestarter there was a log that usually indicated where the firewall was blocking data. It seems to me there should be a way to determine this without Firestarter? How do I do that? [b...@box6 ~]$ service sshd status openssh-daemon (pid 1522) is running... Pinging the numerical addresses does not help. Thanks. Bob -- If this applies for ssh only, you could do something like this, on box9: IPTABLES -I INPUT -i eth0 -s ip.of.box.6 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT If you need more services to be available for box9, you simply let out -m tcp and --dport 22, to get this: IPTABLES -I INPUT -i eth0 -s ip.of.box.6 -j ACCEPT To see all the packages from box6, you can insert the rule below: IPTABLES -I INPUT -i eth0 -s ip.of.box.6 -m state --state NEW -j LOG --log-prefix IPTABLES - NEW PACKETS FROM BOX6: --log-level 6 and watch the result in /var/log/messages (with tail -f /var/log/messages) Calin Key fingerprint = 37B8 0DA5 9B2A 8554 FB2B 4145 5DC1 15DD A3EF E857 = Simon: Some of these words -- they're misspelled. She started correcting my spelling when she was three. --Episode #5, Safe -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Helpful shortcut links to Fedora pages
Do you want to help spread news about Fedora 13 release? We have some shortcut links already made up for you to use in your blogs and status information you post via Identi.ca, Twitter, Facebook, and so on. Visit this page: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Link_tracking You'll find the links at the top of the page in an easy to use table. Copy and paste as you go today! -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ Where open source multiplies: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora 13
OK so where's the link to the mirror list, jigdo? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
f13 torrents?
I've looked at all the versions of the get fedora 13 pages I can find, and perhaps I am just blind, but I can't find any pointer to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ on any of the download pages, even the one that claims to be all the ways to get fedora :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
You can download the new Fedora13 from https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora
https://fedoraproject.org/en/get-fedora :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: f13 torrents?
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: I've looked at all the versions of the get fedora 13 pages I can find, and perhaps I am just blind, but I can't find any pointer to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ on any of the download pages, even the one that claims to be all the ways to get fedora :-). Thank you for providing that link. I just came to the list hoping someone would know how to get at the torrents. If you can't see it because you're blind, then I must be blind also. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
change default browser in thunderbird
Hi all, Don't know how it happened but whenever I click on an email hyperlink Thunderbird opens Chrome. It used to open Firefox. Anybody know how/where to change it back? tia, Mike Wright -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: change default browser in thunderbird
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.comwrote: Hi all, Don't know how it happened but whenever I click on an email hyperlink Thunderbird opens Chrome. It used to open Firefox. Anybody know how/where to change it back? Doesn't thunderbird use the global system settings ? systemsettings - default applications -- KR, Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: f13 torrents?
On 05/25/2010 07:51 AM, Alan Evans wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 7:08 AM, Tom Horsleyhorsley1...@gmail.com wrote: I've looked at all the versions of the get fedora 13 pages I can find, and perhaps I am just blind, but I can't find any pointer to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/ on any of the download pages, even the one that claims to be all the ways to get fedora :-). Thank you for providing that link. I just came to the list hoping someone would know how to get at the torrents. If you can't see it because you're blind, then I must be blind also. I guess excessive use of Fedora causes blindness, because I couldn't find a link to the torrents either :-) I wonder if I could get funding to study this problem :-) Thanks for the link. Paolo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 10:10 +0930, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 14:38 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Just import the mbox file into any IMAP client (Thunderbird, Evolution, Claws, whatever ...) I've tried this with fairly large spool files, on Evolution (painfully slow, and needs doing in chunks - select a month's mail, drag and drop it between folders), and Thunderbird (eventually fails part way through, even in chunks, with no clue as to how far along it got). So I'd like to find a good tool for doing this, too. I took the liberty of asking our mail admin about this, since I know we've done it in the past. This is his answer: I wrote a very Cyrus-specific Perl script (which runs on the mailstore server) that parsed an mbox file, split it into individual messages, and handed them to Cyrus for storage. And yes, it takes many hours (on a fast machine with fast disks) and some babysitting. If he's not using Cyrus, or doesn't have access to the server, tough luck... :-/ I'm sure he wouldn't mind sharing the script if you're interested, but it is specific to Cyrus. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: change default browser in thunderbird
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:03 +0200, Mike Guilmot wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 4:52 PM, Mike Wright mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote: Hi all, Don't know how it happened but whenever I click on an email hyperlink Thunderbird opens Chrome. It used to open Firefox. Anybody know how/where to change it back? Doesn't thunderbird use the global system settings ? systemsettings - default applications That assumes he's using Gnome. If not, he needs to run gnome-control-center from a command line. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: change default browser in thunderbird
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.comwrote: That assumes he's using Gnome. If not, he needs to run gnome-control-center from a command line. Don't you mean KDE ? I'm not using gnome and do it like that :-) -- KR, Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux vs. Vision Tek Radeon HD3650
I don't see anything with a remotely similar name. Does that mean that linux does not support any card remotely like it? soundwave:/home/bseklecki$ grep HD /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep 3650 ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, Clearly the radeonhd(4) man page needs to be updated. ~BAS -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
mirror, mirror
I just tried downloading the F13 iso. When I went through the mirrors redirector I got PNL, which came up with an HTTP error page. Going to kernel.org by hand, I got 300M of the f13 install iso and it hung. Has Fedora become wildly and unexpectedly popular and the mirrors are getting hammered or is something else going on here? -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux vs. Vision Tek Radeon HD3650
On 25 May 2010 09:03, Brian A. Seklecki laval...@spiritual-machines.org wrote: I don't see anything with a remotely similar name. Does that mean that linux does not support any card remotely like it? soundwave:/home/bseklecki$ grep HD /var/log/Xorg.0.log|grep 3650 ATI Radeon HD 3600 Series, ATI Radeon HD 3650 AGP, ATI Radeon HD 3600 PRO, ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3650, Clearly the radeonhd(4) man page needs to be updated. AFAIK Radeohd has been abandoned. You should switch to radeon. ~BAS -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Community Fedora Remix 13.1 “Lucky 13″
ps. There is lot of time and effort invested into making this Fedora Remix, hope you enjoy it. Please spread the word via blog, twitter, etc... Community Fedora Remix 13.1 Lucky 13 http://fcoremix.wordpress.com/2010/05/25/lucky-13/ There are two basic guiding principle behind this Fedora Remix, first one is beyond upstream and multimedia out of the box, you can also think of it like Pimp My Ride version of Fedora To clarify a bit what beyond upstream means you have to know that Fedora is really close tied with upstream projects and Fedora developers won't do anything that upstream doesn't do, and upstream only mentality has lots good things going for it. One of the deawbacks is that upsteram only makes for too conservative and old fashioned Desktop when look and feel of Desktop is concerned. Design of Fedora is great, I'm not talking about great artwork that Fedora Design team has made. Fedora is just too closely tied to upstream and this is doesn't allow much progress and experimentation on the look and feel side of things, that is why there are Remixes, because of this opportunity we decided to make an awesome looking Fedora Remix oriented for Desktop users. This Fedora Remix is also very much influenced by Linux Mint and with its community. For the impatient ones here are the the download links: * bittorent - http://bit.ly/d4UvQU * direct http download - http://depositfiles.com/files/ocnh1sxc9 * iso.linux.hr - http://iso.linux.hr/community-fedora-remix/ Feel free to contribute and join this project, this project eagerly awaits your fresh ideas about how Linux desktop should look and work. Join mailing list - http://groups.google.com/group/community-fedora-remix If you customize your desktop to the point it is not recognized any more then this project it right for you. How contribute? - Ideas: * Show some great GNOME themes * Know some great app/tool that everybody should use? - Designers: * Design great new wallpapers, GNOME themes... * Design out new web site - Developers: * Make new RPM packages * Tweak kickstart file * Tweak GNOME settings - Web developers * Help create new web site for this project Community Fedora Remix 13 features and highlights: * 100% compatible with Fedora * GNOME enhancement with mintMenu and DockbarX * Chromium Internet browser + Firefox * Compiz Fusion compositing window manager * multimedia support out of the box (mp3 playback) * GNOME Do – intelligent application launcher (http://tinyurl.com/yntg9l) * OpenOffice 3.2 * Inkscape, Blender and GIMP * Evolution with native Exchange support (mapi) * Thunderbird 3.0 * better hardware compatibility for broadcom wireless cards * better games selection * wireless security tools (aircrack-ng and kismet) * Nautilus in browser mode by default * enabled clicking via touchpad by default * optimized iso image for 2GB usb * many other enhancements * Advanced users feel free to look into /usr/share/community-fedora-remix/ directory, you will find all files that were used to create this Fedora Remix. * mintMenu and DockbarX mintMenu and DockbarX are two GNOME panel addons that make this Linux distro unique and these are the most obvious features that you will encounter first time you login. - If you would like to test only mintMenu and disable DockbarX type this into terminal window: gconftool-2 --load /usr/share/community-fedora-remix/gconf2/one-panel-settings.xml - For standard GNOME look feel just type this into terminal: gconftool-2 --load /usr/share/community-fedora-remix/gconf2/default-panel-settings.xml - And again for full mintMenu + DockbarX desktop this is the magic key: gconftool-2 --load /usr/share/community-fedora-remix/gconf2/one-panel-settings-dockbarx.xml If you have any suggestion on how to make this Fedora Remix better and to get involved feel free to join us and make this Fedora Remix even better. -- pratite me na twitteru - www.twitter.com/valentt blog: http://kernelreloaded.blog385.com linux, anime, spirituality, windsurf, wireless, ronjenje, pametne kuće, zwave registered as user #367004 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org. ICQ: 2125241, Skype: valent.turkovic, MSN: valent.turko...@hotmail.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: change default browser in thunderbird
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 17:42 +0200, Mike Guilmot wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: That assumes he's using Gnome. If not, he needs to run gnome-control-center from a command line. Don't you mean KDE ? I'm not using gnome and do it like that :-) I meant exactly what I said. Perhaps you misunderstood (I also use KDE BTW). poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux vs. Vision Tek Radeon HD3650
Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. No no no!! Accountant: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be Either 1. Engineer: The glass is the right size 2. Engineer: The glass is half the size needed Marketing: Nobody needs more than a 640 ml glass. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux vs. Vision Tek Radeon HD3650
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wolfgang.ruppre...@gmail.com wrote: Pessimist: The glass is half empty. Optimist: The glass is half full. Engineer: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be. No no no!! Accountant: The glass is twice as big as it needs to be Either 1. Engineer: The glass is the right size 2. Engineer: The glass is half the size needed Marketing: Nobody needs more than a 640 ml glass. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines 640 ml? Make that a brandy please. fennix -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F13 upgrades post here, please.
Hi people. I'd love to hear about F13 upgrade experiences. Once the issues are worked out I'll be upgrading from F12. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Linux for T1 bonding ???
Hi Folks, This is probably not the best forum for this query, but I am hoping you might direct me... We have a T1 that is running about max'd out. We are thinking to buy a comcast connection and use a Linux based T1 bonding to load balance over the 2 pipes. Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... Thx, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F13 upgrades post here, please.
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 9:28 AM, Linuxguy123 linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to hear about F13 upgrade experiences. Once the issues are worked out I'll be upgrading from F12. Do you want all the issues listed conveniently to you in a single thread? I, for one, would prefer that separate upgrade issues be in separate threads. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Imap/s certificate issue?
Philip Prindeville wrote: On 5/24/10 12:53 PM, Rex Dieter wrote: which imap server are you using here? does the ssl cert in question validate ok? I'm using cyrus-imapd-2.3.16-3.fc12.x86_64 It's a self-signed cert, so I'm not sure what you mean by validate ok... OK, sounds like it cannot be validated then (ie, it is not signed by a verifiable CA). -- Rex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: mirror, mirror
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 09:03 -0700, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: I just tried downloading the F13 iso. When I went through the mirrors redirector I got PNL, which came up with an HTTP error page. Going to kernel.org by hand, I got 300M of the f13 install iso and it hung. Has Fedora become wildly and unexpectedly popular and the mirrors are getting hammered or is something else going on here? Wolfgang, Hammered is the right word. The Fedora world is now and will remain in a feeding frenzy for a few days following the official release. --Doc Savage Fairview Heights, IL -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are the torrents so slow?
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:53:24AM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi everyone, Why are the torrents so slow? I usually get download speeds of up to 600 Kbps. (both torrent or direct download) But with the 64 bit XFCE torrent I'm getting downloads @ ~20Kbps. At times the upload spikes to 90Kbps, but I don't mind that as long as it downloads faster. There are only 7 seeds and 12 leechers on that torrent right now... -- Matt Domsch Technology Strategist Dell | Office of the CTO -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Problem with joypads in F13
Hey, when I try to use joypads with some applications they crash with a segmentation fault. I have tried both a ps2-usb converter, and a xbox 360 controller. The applications that crash are zsnes, bsnes (both in repos), snes9x-gtk, pcsx. Anyone have any idea why this happens? Regards -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On 05/25/2010 06:31 PM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, This is probably not the best forum for this query, but I am hoping you might direct me... We have a T1 that is running about max'd out. We are thinking to buy a comcast connection and use a Linux based T1 bonding to load balance over the 2 pipes. Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... Thx, jackc... Vyatta is nice. :-) -- KR, Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
OT:smartphone
after reviewing http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ and http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nokia-n900-first-look few days ago, I have decided to get nokia N900 over a blackberry, iphone and droid... since i wanted linux portable box. I need to know your feedback about this issue. Thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Any difference between F13 RC3 and Final?
I have been using the Deltaisos from Andre to keep updating my F13 x86_64 install DVD but I do not see one for RC3-Final. Are they the same? Thanks, Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
I'll check it out, Thx Mike! On 05/25/2010 10:27 AM, Mike Guilmot wrote: On 05/25/2010 06:31 PM, jack craig wrote: Hi Folks, This is probably not the best forum for this query, but I am hoping you might direct me... We have a T1 that is running about max'd out. We are thinking to buy a comcast connection and use a Linux based T1 bonding to load balance over the 2 pipes. Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... Thx, jackc... Vyatta is nice. :-) -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 10:46 -0430, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I took the liberty of asking our mail admin about this, since I know we've done it in the past. This is his answer: I wrote a very Cyrus-specific Perl script (which runs on the mailstore server) that parsed an mbox file, split it into individual messages, and handed them to Cyrus for storage. And yes, it takes many hours (on a fast machine with fast disks) and some babysitting. If he's not using Cyrus, or doesn't have access to the server, tough luck... :-/ I'm sure he wouldn't mind sharing the script if you're interested, but it is specific to Cyrus. I'm using Dovecot. Though, I'm wondering if it will be any advantage because of the difference in server, and: Is there an advantage in externally splitting an mbox spool and playing with files, compared to importing mail from one folder to another, and the mail server storing that mail in maildir, itself. I suspect there's a good chance of creating maildir files that don't fit in with the way the mailserver wants to have its maildir files (file paths, etc.). -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: mirror, mirror
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 11:36 -0500, Robert G. (Doc) Savage wrote: Hammered is the right word. The Fedora world is now and will remain in a feeding frenzy for a few days following the official release. That's one reason why I get such things from my ISP's local mirror. Quite a few ISPs have file mirrors, even ones that don't tell you about it. It's often worth having a poke around your ISP's domain name with a FTP client. -- [...@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT:smartphone
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 20:29 +0300, madunix wrote: after reviewing http://maemo.nokia.com/n900/ and http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/nokia-n900-first-look few days ago, I have decided to get nokia N900 over a blackberry, iphone and droid... since i wanted linux portable box. I need to know your feedback about this issue. I came to the same conclusion but haven't purchased the N900 due to the lack of an update to Maemo 5 and Meego not shipping in any meaningful way yet. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are the torrents so slow?
On 25 May 2010 10:02, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:53:24AM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi everyone, Why are the torrents so slow? I usually get download speeds of up to 600 Kbps. (both torrent or direct download) But with the 64 bit XFCE torrent I'm getting downloads @ ~20Kbps. At times the upload spikes to 90Kbps, but I don't mind that as long as it downloads faster. There are only 7 seeds and 12 leechers on that torrent right now... Thanks Matt. I didn't see that information, the web-ui for transmission-daemon doesn't present that information in a clear manner. :) -- Matt Domsch -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are the torrents so slow?
On 05/25/2010 01:17 PM, suvayu ali wrote: On 25 May 2010 10:02, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:53:24AM -0700, Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi everyone, Why are the torrents so slow? I usually get download speeds of up to 600 Kbps. (both torrent or direct download) But with the 64 bit XFCE torrent I'm getting downloads @ ~20Kbps. At times the upload spikes to 90Kbps, but I don't mind that as long as it downloads faster. There are only 7 seeds and 12 leechers on that torrent right now... Thanks Matt. I didn't see that information, the web-ui for transmission-daemon doesn't present that information in a clear manner. :) -- Matt Domsch I'll be a seed for the 386 DVD in about 7 minutes. :-) Currently downloading at 750KBPS and uploading at 100KBPS -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Upgrade from Fedora 12 to Fedora 13 RC Final
Over the weekend I upgraded from Fedora 12 to Fedora 13 RC initially using preupgrade and yum upgrade. At one point, it appeared that Anaconda was frozen so I rebooted. I had to fall back to the Fedora 12 kernel, 2.6.32.12-115.fc12.x86_64. Everything else seems to work fine mostly, and I plan to continue the upgrade to Fedora 13 when I have some time. One issue is that Thunderbird did not display html texts. Looks like some settings were lost, so that was easily fixable, and I have not been able to sign my messages. I think the issue here is simply that gpg-agent is not set properly, not a Fedora 13 issue per se. -- Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org Boston Linux and Unix PGP key id: 537C5846 PGP Key fingerprint: 3D1B 8377 A3C0 A5F2 ECBB CA3B 4607 4319 537C 5846 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:31:35 -0700, jack craig jcr...@extraview.com wrote: Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... When I was looking at getting a T1, bonded T1s sold by the provider were fairly common. Unless you are looking at doing something cheaper, that may be your best bet. If you are using two different providers, I don't think you can atcually do what is typically referred to as bonding. Normally that is handled with routing. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT:smartphone
Linuxguy123 kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 25. toukokuuta 2010): I came to the same conclusion but haven't purchased the N900 due to the lack of an update to Maemo 5 and Meego not shipping in any meaningful way yet. Maemo 5 version 1.2 will be available tomorrow (May 26th). There won't be any official upgrade to Meego on N900. http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/05/25/nokia-n900-software-update-release-1-2/ -- Markku Kolkka markku.kol...@iki.fi -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On 05/25/2010 11:39 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:31:35 -0700, jack craigjcr...@extraview.com wrote: Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... When I was looking at getting a T1, bonded T1s sold by the provider were fairly common. Unless you are looking at doing something cheaper, that may be your best bet. If you are using two different providers, I don't think you can atcually do what is typically referred to as bonding. Normally that is handled with routing. I've hit a couple bumps in this investigation. the boss first said check into comcast cable (static ip's available), but then he was assuming it was a t1 serve that could be bonded with our current t1. so far, t1 cable modem are separate, discreet options. i found mushroom networks and they offer a bonding appliance that says its smart about load balancing, e.g. using all bonded lines. mark pointed out vyatta, that looks interesting too. The cable connection rates are real low compared to our t1, i am not thinking we ought to get the cable connection and if its as fast as advertised, ditch the t1 we have now. interesting quest! :) thx for your comments, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: SELinux blocks access to device files when booting 2.6.32.* kernels (fc12) [SOLVED]
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 7:34 AM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 05/23/2010 02:32 PM, Karl-Michael Schneider wrote: On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 06:05 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 17:19 -0700, Karl-Michael Schneider wrote: # kernel-2.6.32.12-115.fc12 in single user mode $ ls -lZ /dev crw---. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 agpgart drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 block drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:unlabeled_t:s0 bsg # kernel-2.6.31.12-174.2.22.fc12 in single user mode $ ls -lZ /dev crw-rw. root audio system_u:object_r:sound_device_t:s0 adsp crw---. root video system_u:object_r:agp_device_t:s0 agpgart crw-rw. root audio system_u:object_r:sound_device_t:s0 audio drwxr-xr-x. root root system_u:object_r:device_t:s0 block While not having the answer to your query, I might pose the obvious questions: Are you booting the other kernel on the same installation? It's just a kernel version change in your grub.conf file between the two of them? You're not booting to a second installation, where you copied all the files across, and copied /dev as files? -- [tim at localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. Yes, I'm booting both kernels in the same installation. I have both kernels in my grub.conf file. Can you post this question on the fedora selinux list. Seems like this might be a kernel issue, and the kernel SELinux guys would be there. Posted to the fedora selinux list and found the solution: http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/selinux/2010-May/012577.html -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT:smartphone
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 21:40 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote: Linuxguy123 kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 25. toukokuuta 2010): I came to the same conclusion but haven't purchased the N900 due to the lack of an update to Maemo 5 and Meego not shipping in any meaningful way yet. Maemo 5 version 1.2 will be available tomorrow (May 26th). There won't be any official upgrade to Meego on N900. http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/05/25/nokia-n900-software-update-release-1-2/ That is exactly the reason I held off from buying one. I'll wait for the N950 or whatever they call it, running Meego before I buy anything. Maemo is a dead platform. It took them forever to release this update and I doubt there will be another one. I want something like Fedora for mobile devices. I'm hoping thats Meego. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Any difference between F13 RC3 and Final?
On 5/25/2010 1:37 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: I have been using the Deltaisos from Andre to keep updating my F13 x86_64 install DVD but I do not see one for RC3-Final. Are they the same? If I understood correctly. No. There are however some updates/fixes. The number depends on what you have installed. -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 11:49:01 -0700, jack craig jcr...@extraview.com wrote: the boss first said check into comcast cable (static ip's available), but then he was assuming it was a t1 serve that could be bonded with our current t1. You don't get static IPs with your T1? Or do you just need more? I modem I got from my provider allows you to plug in two T1 cables. (I only have one though.) so far, t1 cable modem are separate, discreet options. i found mushroom networks and they offer a bonding appliance that says its smart about load balancing, e.g. using all bonded lines. Normally for bonding you need something at both ends. Otherwise it isn't what I have normally seen referred to as bonding. mark pointed out vyatta, that looks interesting too. The cable connection rates are real low compared to our t1, i am not thinking we ought to get the cable connection and if its as fast as advertised, ditch the t1 we have now. The networking will be more complicated if you have two providers. If you have easy to segregate uses for the bandwidth this might be easy to do. If not, then it might be tricky. Upgrading your T1 to a bonded T1 might be worth doing despite the higher bandwidth costs (compared to cable) than having to deal multihomed networking issues. I don't know that there are simple upgrades beyond a bonded T1, so if you are going to eventually need more than 3 Mb/s that could be an issue. Be careful about what you get with comcast. T1s are regulated and they let you use the full bandwidth 24/7 both ways and there are some guarantees for uptime. The comcast connection may be oversubscribed and there may be a presumption that you won't be using the full bandwidth 24/7. Which may be OK, just be sure you know what you're getting. interesting quest! :) thx for your comments, jackc... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: OT:smartphone
On 05/25/2010 12:18 PM, Linuxguy123 wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 21:40 +0300, Markku Kolkka wrote: Linuxguy123 kirjoitti viestissään (lähetysaika tiistai, 25. toukokuuta 2010): I came to the same conclusion but haven't purchased the N900 due to the lack of an update to Maemo 5 and Meego not shipping in any meaningful way yet. Maemo 5 version 1.2 will be available tomorrow (May 26th). There won't be any official upgrade to Meego on N900. http://conversations.nokia.com/2010/05/25/nokia-n900-software-update-release-1-2/ That is exactly the reason I held off from buying one. I'll wait for the N950 or whatever they call it, running Meego before I buy anything. Maemo is a dead platform. It took them forever to release this update and I doubt there will be another one. I want something like Fedora for mobile devices. I'm hoping thats Meego. I'd say don't hold your breath! I had high hopes for the moblin (meego now), but i was dismayed to see the Intel effort spin spin, then provide no useful product! what they did provide wasnt nearly good enough. i was using a netbook (even more screen real estate than a smart phone) {i had been using the Sidekick, from Danger, but wanted more useful screen space}, and it was reduced to less than a 1/3 of total screen in useful space. When moblin died, i bailed and have been using fc12 on my netbook since. I am Much happier. My netbook, on a recent holiday, was the perfect travel companion... My only glitch was wifi reception in a BB that was made of Really solid wood( i had to work near the router). A Real Nice place, http://www.hilo-hawaii.com/ Intel has certainly fallen from grace in my book... just my $.0002, jackc... -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
Tim wrote: On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 23:49 -0700, Nataraj wrote: If it's your own mail server and your running an imap server like dovecot which uses maildir format, then just use the dovecot script to convert your mbox file directly into the file space of the imap server. I am, though don't know the script your referring to. I should probably have a look at a newer CentOS install, in case it has something that the older one doesn't. You may have to build the indexes after the files are moved. Hmm, the sort of thing I was hoping to avoid. If I used a mail client to move the mail, it'd move the messages in a manner that was directly usable, straight away. Rather than play games directly with the files. Another option is to use a local mail client to split the file into several smaller folders before trying to move it into imap. Might give that a go, but I suspect that's still going to be a lot of time-consuming work. Likewise for taking the first 10,000 lines of text from a spool, chopping into two files between message sections, and proceeding that way. I would check out the following links and other documentation in the dovecot wiki: http://wiki.dovecot.org/Migration/MailFormat http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat My understanding is that the differences in performance between the various formats that use single files has to do with the indexing. This tends to be implementation dependant as much as format related. Though many people consider MH as obsolete, I would consider it as an intermediate format. It will read the maildir file and split it into it's own MH format which uses single files. Even though it can be slow, the nice thing about mh is that it is all command line based and it's easy to write shell scripts, to move and sort messages. Also it tends not to crash. Evolution does read mh format (thunderbird does NOT), and I have used it to move 200mb mh folders into a dovecot server using maildir. I think the key here is to split into smaller folders (maybe even less than 200), even if you put it back into one at the end, that way your less likely to get bitten by evolution crashing 3/4 of the way through. If you get it into 4 folders in dovecot, I believe you can just rename (mv) the files directly on the server (I think the file names are unique) into one folder and reindex the folder. Also, the UW imap server reads mh format, but I have never used it and have no idea what its performance is like. Nataraj -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
voice in pidgin
Hi list I installed pudgin and these packages su -c ' yum install libidn-devel gstreamer-plugins-good gstreamer-plugins-bad gstreamer-plugins-base-devel farsight2-devel ' but I have not found how to make a call with my google contact. web pages and images show that starting from pidgin 2.6, the voice will be enabled but not for me. thanks in advance for any help ps: the version I have is *Pidgin 2.6.4-1.fc10 * -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address 3 avenue lamine, cité ezzahra, Sousse 4000 Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 (+33640302046 jusqu'au 15/6) fax: +216 71 391 166 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Free Media Application
Were is the free media application for f13, all I see is f12 -- Henry E. Wyatt, Jr. 135 Main St. Apt. 604 Adm. Halsey Senior Village Poughkeepsie, N.Y. 12601-6703 (845)337-3421 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:49 PM, jack craig jcr...@extraview.com wrote: so far, t1 cable modem are separate, discreet options. ... The cable connection rates are real low compared to our t1, i am not thinking we ought to get the cable connection and if its as fast as advertised, ditch the t1 we have now. Jack: You're really comparing apples and oranges here. T1 is essentially a set of 16-64 kbps connections bonded together to form a ~1 Mbps connection, typically symmetric (up/down speeds the same) and provided by The Phone Company. As such, it's a well-known, mature, pretty highly-engineered product that can be expected to deliver very high Quality of Service (QOS) and can be contracted to have a particular Service Level Agreement (SLA) that provides for certain uptimes, response times, and penalties for failure to deliver service. But you pay for all those acronyms. A business cable service, while a step up from consumer-grade service, usually doesn't provide the same level of quality nor reliability. It's typically asymmetric (16 Mbps/2 Mbps, for example) and those speed ratings may be burst mode ratings and not actually long-term expected bandwidth. If you're providing some services to your customers via your Internet connection, the QOS/SLA may be important to you, particularly if you can place a value on your services in terms of hard dollars lost per hour of downtime (or sluggishness). And there are other factors to consider, such a latency (roughly, how long it takes to start a transmission). And cable plant installations vary all over the place, from highly-reliable to highly-fallible. If you know of other businesses in your area, you can get some sense of the reliability of the local plant and the local Cable Guys. And you ought to check on http://www.dslreports.com/ as well for reports from your area. I'd inquire with the cable company what their SLA policies are, or what might be available. At typical US prices of $600/mo for T1 versus $99/mo for cable, the face value of saving $6000 a year sounds attractive, but those savings can easily be stomped on by a one-week-downtime. On the flip side, if you're really just providing more bandwidth for the employees to surf and play PacMan on Google, business-grade cable can be a cheap investment. You might want to consider paralleling the two services: use the T1 for the essential services and the cable for the office surfing. Experience a downtime or two with each of them and determine what's best. Finally, there are other options. We use a business DSL here in the office for our highly-reliable static IP services, and a cable connection for office surfing. Bandwidth isn't as great as a T1, but costs are significantly lower. The two services are completely separate and we don't route between them (other than via the Internet), although we could cobble together some patch cables if one or the other was down long-term. It's worth shopping around and determining what's the right mix of services for your situation. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Finding FC 13 CD isos
On Tue, 25 May 2010 17:13:09 -0400 Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have poked around the download site and all I am finding is the live CD iso or the full DVD iso. I have always downloaded the CD iso set, burned CD 1 for install, put all of the CDs on a local HTTP server and installed off my network. So where are the CD isos? http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/torrents//Fedora-13-i386-CDs.torrent --Frank Elsner -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Finding FC 13 CD isos
Go to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/. Paolo On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 2:13 PM, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.comwrote: I have poked around the download site and all I am finding is the live CD iso or the full DVD iso. I have always downloaded the CD iso set, burned CD 1 for install, put all of the CDs on a local HTTP server and installed off my network. So where are the CD isos? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
jack craig wrote: On 05/25/2010 11:39 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote: On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 09:31:35 -0700, jack craigjcr...@extraview.com wrote: Any open source references to recommend? I have not been finding a lot of options... When I was looking at getting a T1, bonded T1s sold by the provider were fairly common. Unless you are looking at doing something cheaper, that may be your best bet. If you are using two different providers, I don't think you can atcually do what is typically referred to as bonding. Normally that is handled with routing. I've hit a couple bumps in this investigation. the boss first said check into comcast cable (static ip's available), but then he was assuming it was a t1 serve that could be bonded with our current t1. so far, t1 cable modem are separate, discreet options. i found mushroom networks and they offer a bonding appliance that says its smart about load balancing, e.g. using all bonded lines. mark pointed out vyatta, that looks interesting too. The cable connection rates are real low compared to our t1, i am not thinking we ought to get the cable connection and if its as fast as advertised, ditch the t1 we have now. interesting quest! :) My experience with cable has been that it is highly variable in bandwidth. In upstate NY you can get DSL up to 7Mbit and FIOS at 15Mbit and you get the speed you pay for. Depending on your usage you might even have the T1 for incoming connections to your servers and use a DHCP connection on another ISP like cable for things which don't need static IP on outbound connections, like browsing, VPN depending on your setup, etc, etc. Having done bonded lines back when I became aware that total bandwidth goes up but the speed doesn't, so ping and anything depending on response time won't change. And you want to advertise larger TCP window sizes so that you will back up some packets and actually use the bonding. Some bonding methods don't put packets for a given connection on the other wire until they have a few packets waiting. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Regarding Get Fedora page
Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 12:54:53 PM, Jud Craft wrote: I'm sorry if I'm late to the party or this has been previously explained, but I can't see anything related to it in Fedora-list, -devel, -desktop, or -advisory. So here goes. What happened to the Get Fedora page? It was beautiful. Now it's a big ugly pile of links in a strange link-map that hides half the options, and I can't find a mention of torrents anywhere. What happened to the big master list of all image download links? Spins.fedoraproject.org looks great, but the main download page has greatly regressed compared to F12. [I just found the Fedora bittorrent page by googling. Glad I found them.] Fully in agreement with Jud. I wasted time following links on the web page, and finally found the torrent via Google. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are the torrents so slow?
Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi everyone, Why are the torrents so slow? I usually get download speeds of up to 600 Kbps. (both torrent or direct download) But with the 64 bit XFCE torrent I'm getting downloads @ ~20Kbps. At times the upload spikes to 90Kbps, but I don't mind that as long as it downloads faster. I can't wait to get my hands on the release and I want to share, hence I went with torrents over direct download. :( I have often wondered why there is so little traffic when I'm seeding, so the answer may be something isn't right. Possibly the client setup. I usually set for 200kB seed, and usually only see 20kB average, maybe 100kB in a few 10 sec slices. Maybe someone can provide a hint as to what needs to be tuned. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Linux for T1 bonding ???
On 05/25/2010 02:40 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: interesting quest! :) My experience with cable has been that it is highly variable in bandwidth. In upstate NY you can get DSL up to 7Mbit and FIOS at 15Mbit and you get the speed you pay for. Depending on your usage you might even have the T1 for incoming connections to your servers and use a DHCP connection on another ISP like cable for things which don't need static IP on outbound connections, like browsing, VPN depending on your setup, etc, etc. Having done bonded lines back when I became aware that total bandwidth goes up but the speed doesn't, so ping and anything depending on response time won't change. And you want to advertise larger TCP window sizes so that you will back up some packets and actually use the bonding. Some bonding methods don't put packets for a given connection on the other wire until they have a few packets waiting. Great feed back to hear /before/ we make a decision! Thx!!! -- Jack Craig Software Engineer 831.461.7100 x120 www.extraview.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
FC13 infofeed RSS coming?
I normally follow updates to official releases on the infofeed RSS, since it tells me not only what was changed but for new apps, what the app does. Hopefully now there will be one for FC13 as well. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Finding FC 13 CD isos
On 05/25/2010 05:29 PM, Chris Adams wrote: Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitzr...@htt-consult.com said: I have poked around the download site and all I am finding is the live CD iso or the full DVD iso. Maybe you got a mirror that is missing the CD ISOs? They are there on mine. I was looking for mirrors and did not even find that any more in the download page. Where is your mirror? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Finding FC 13 CD isos
On 5/25/2010 5:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/25/2010 05:25 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Go to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/. A non-torrent site? http://mirrors.reflected.net/fedora/linux/releases/13/Fedora -- David signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Why are the torrents so slow?
On 25 May 2010 14:45, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Suvayu Ali wrote: Hi everyone, Why are the torrents so slow? I usually get download speeds of up to 600 Kbps. (both torrent or direct download) But with the 64 bit XFCE torrent I'm getting downloads @ ~20Kbps. At times the upload spikes to 90Kbps, but I don't mind that as long as it downloads faster. I can't wait to get my hands on the release and I want to share, hence I went with torrents over direct download. :( I have often wondered why there is so little traffic when I'm seeding, so the answer may be something isn't right. Possibly the client setup. I usually set for 200kB seed, and usually only see 20kB average, maybe 100kB in a few 10 sec slices. Maybe someone can provide a hint as to what needs to be tuned. I am not sure it is some tuning problem on the client side. Because all my other torrents work wonderfully. For example about a month back I downloaded the Mint iso to try it out, and it finished at my usual speed of about 500 - 600 Kbps (despite very few seeders). Where as for the Fedora torrents, it has never been fast, and especially slow today. ID Done Have ETA UpDown Ratio Status Name 4081% 570.5 MB 1 hrs0.019.0 0.42 Downloading Fedora-13-x86_64-Live-XFCE -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Where is everything?
terry wrote: notice there is look in /etc/etc/etc/. or usr/root/where is it or some such file. Is there a list that describes where all of this knowledge is located to alleviate problems. Unless all distributions are identical, 'get a good book on Linux' will not suffice. Perhaps a $ man locate would help. Mike -- p=p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);};main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} Oppose globalization and One World Governments like the UN. This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Finding FC 13 CD isos
On 05/25/2010 05:57 PM, David Boles wrote: On 5/25/2010 5:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 05/25/2010 05:25 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote: Go to http://torrent.fedoraproject.org/. A non-torrent site? http://mirrors.reflected.net/fedora/linux/releases/13/Fedora thanks. On it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Regarding Get Fedora page
On 25 May 2010 14:41, Al Dunsmuir al.dunsm...@sympatico.ca wrote: Tuesday, May 25, 2010, 12:54:53 PM, Jud Craft wrote: I'm sorry if I'm late to the party or this has been previously explained, but I can't see anything related to it in Fedora-list, -devel, -desktop, or -advisory. So here goes. What happened to the Get Fedora page? It was beautiful. Now it's a big ugly pile of links in a strange link-map that hides half the options, and I can't find a mention of torrents anywhere. What happened to the big master list of all image download links? Spins.fedoraproject.org looks great, but the main download page has greatly regressed compared to F12. [I just found the Fedora bittorrent page by googling. Glad I found them.] Fully in agreement with Jud. I wasted time following links on the web page, and finally found the torrent via Google. Same here -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Regarding Get Fedora page
suvayu ali wrote: [I just found the Fedora bittorrent page by googling. Glad I found them.] Fully in agreement with Jud. I wasted time following links on the web page, and finally found the torrent via Google. Same here Voice your opinion on the websites[1] list. [1] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/websites -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Finding FC 13 CD isos
Once upon a time, Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com said: I was looking for mirrors and did not even find that any more in the download page. Where is your mirror? Mine is mirror.hiwaay.net. I think the problem is that the Get Fedora page doesn't like to the CD images (or just the iso directory). There's also no link (that I see) to the mirror list, so if you know you want CD images, you can't get there. -- Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net Systems and Network Administrator - HiWAAY Internet Services I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't establish connection -
On 05/25/2010 02:30 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 25/05/10 06:45, kalinix wrote:If this applies for ssh only, you could do something like this, on box9: IPTABLES -I INPUT -i eth0 -s ip.of.box.6 -p tcp -m tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT If you need more services to be available for box9, you simply let out -m tcp and --dport 22, to get this: IPTABLES -I INPUT -i eth0 -s ip.of.box.6 -j ACCEPT To see all the packages from box6, you can insert the rule below: IPTABLES -I INPUT -i eth0 -s ip.of.box.6 -m state --state NEW -j LOG --log-prefix IPTABLES - NEW PACKETS FROM BOX6: --log-level 6 and watch the result in /var/log/messages (with tail -f /var/log/messages) Calin I am using the provided F-12 iptables firewall. All I recall changing was opening a port for VOIP. This problem has existed since I originally installed this version. This is 64 bit while box9 which works as expected is 32, other than that they are similar F-12's on Dell boxes. I installed a gigabit NIC on this box6 and and a new fast switch, data transfer is fast but I would like to be able to make it work from either end. I have three computers tied together through the new switch, one is an NFS server. Man iptables says: iptables [-t table] {-A|-D} chain rule-specification Would this then be the correct command to use? iptables -A IPTABLES -I INPUT -i eth0 -s ip.of.box6 -m state --state NEW -j LOG --log-prefix IPTABLES - NEW PACKETS FROM BOX6: --log-level 6 You have conflicting options there. -A appends a rule to the end of a chain, -I inserts a rule (by default, at the top) of a chain. If you want to log ALL new connections from box6 (remember that the -s bit is specifying connections coming FROM box6), use the -I version. If you want to just catch connections not already handled by the rules, use the -A version. -- - Rick Stevens, Systems Engineer, C2 Hosting ri...@nerd.com - - AIM/Skype: therps2ICQ: 22643734Yahoo: origrps2 - -- - I haven't lost my mind. It's backed up on tape somewhere, but - - probably not recoverable.- -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Importing an mbox into Imap
On 05/25/2010 05:41 AM, Tim wrote: You may have to build the indexes after the files are moved. Hmm, the sort of thing I was hoping to avoid. If I used a mail client to move the mail, it'd move the messages in a manner that was directly usable, straight away. Rather than play games directly with the files. Not with dovecot - it is self healing and will auto rebuild indexes as needed. Speed issues are client dependent - e.g if you use thunderbird and leave GLODA turned on .. you're essentially doomed with large mail folders!! Also clients that store mail for offline reading may do it in mbox format (thunderbird for example) and they will simply convert your lovely server into a local mbox .. so turn that off too!!! I had a script somewhere to convert mbox to dovecot maildir ... will dig around and see if i still have it. gene/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Ext4 anomalies.
On 05/25/2010 03:22 PM, George R Goffe wrote: Howdy, I have had my FC12 system installed since February this year and have experienced this particular problem twice so far. The problem does NOT happen frequently... Just long enough for me to become complacent that it was a fluke. Files in /root have become empty, 141 of them this time. Their update dates are all the same, about 2 minutes before I noticed the problem this time. Has anyone seen this kind of problem? If not, I'd like to set some traps if they are available so that I can find out how this happens and eliminate it. Any hints/tips/suggestions/clues would be greatly appreciated. File a bug report in http://bugzilla.redhat.com against the Fedora kernel and cc sandeen AT redhat.com Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
mdraid dmraid, Fedora 11 Fedora 13
Please excuse me, for I am a bear of little brain ... In the F13 release notes it says: Important — Systems with Intel BIOS RAID sets Fedora 13 uses mdraid instead of dmraid for installation onto Intel BIOS RAID sets. These sets are detected automatically, and devices with Intel ISW metadata are recognized as mdraid instead of dmraid. Note that the device node names of any such devices under mdraid are different from their device node names under dmraid. Therefore, special precautions are necessary when you migrate systems with Intel BIOS RAID sets from operating systems or versions of operating systems that use dmraid. Local modifications to /etc/fstab, /etc/crypttab or other configuration files which refer to devices by their device node names will not work in Fedora 13. Before migrating these files, you must therefore edit them to replace device node paths with device UUIDs instead. You can find the UUIDs of devices with the blkid command. I'm currently running F11 on a system w/ Intel BIOS RAID (1) [Lenovo ThinkPad W700] and remember problems w/ the SW raid under F10, and more problems w/ SW raid when I upgraded to F11. Unfortunately, the above warning is opaque to me. How can I tell if my F11 uses mdraid or dmraid? I used lvm to break my single raid partition into separate logical partitions and would dearly love to keep the data on the non-system logical partitions w/o restoring from backups, so I'm hoping that I don't need to jump through a lot of hoops to do so. Thanks, Joe -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: mdraid dmraid, Fedora 11 Fedora 13
On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:51:54 -0700 Joe Christy j...@eshu.net wrote: In the F13 release notes it says: Important — Systems with Intel BIOS RAID sets Fedora 13 uses mdraid instead of dmraid for installation onto Intel BIOS RAID sets. These sets are detected automatically, and devices with Intel ISW metadata are recognized as mdraid instead of dmraid. Note that the device node names of any such devices under mdraid are different from their device node names under dmraid. Therefore, special precautions are necessary when you migrate systems with Intel BIOS RAID sets from operating systems or versions of operating systems that use dmraid. Local modifications to /etc/fstab, /etc/crypttab or other configuration files which refer to devices by their device node names will not work in Fedora 13. Before migrating these files, you must therefore edit them to replace device node paths with device UUIDs instead. You can find the UUIDs of devices with the blkid command. I'm currently running F11 on a system w/ Intel BIOS RAID (1) [Lenovo ThinkPad W700] and remember problems w/ the SW raid under F10, and more problems w/ SW raid when I upgraded to F11. Unfortunately, the above warning is opaque to me. How can I tell if my F11 uses mdraid or dmraid? I used lvm to break my single raid partition into separate logical partitions and would dearly love to keep the data on the non-system logical partitions w/o restoring from backups, so I'm hoping that I don't need to jump through a lot of hoops to do so. Thanks, Joe F8 to F11 and RHEL 5 use dmraid for BIOS RAID. F12 and F13 use mdraid for BIOS RAID. I have installed Fedora onto several computers with Intel BIOS RAID arrays and have always partitioned similarly to the way that you have described. Anaconda has detected the BIOS RAID array and generated the fstab correctly in F12 and F13. I have never used /etc/crypttab and always do fresh installs. You should always backup before doing an OS install, even if you are keeping the data in some filesystems. In F12 and F13, I have recently experienced bug # 576749. It seems that an mdraid resync makes the computer unresponsive. In F13 Anaconda, BIOS RAID storage devices are found in the Advanced Storage option. -- Support the Free Software Foundation - www.fsf.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F12-F13 Upgrade: WOW! That went well.
Started the upgrade from the DVD and then went out. Came back, rebooted, and it was all done. Wow. This has been the smoothest upgrade ever. Now, just waiting for 407 updates from 'yum update'. Can't wait to see if Rhythmbox will be able to put music on my iPhone. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F12-F13 Upgrade: WOW! That went well.
On 05/26/2010 12:02 AM, Steven Stern wrote: Started the upgrade from the DVD and then went out. Came back, rebooted, and it was all done. Wow. This has been the smoothest upgrade ever. Now, just waiting for 407 updates from 'yum update'. Can't wait to see if Rhythmbox will be able to put music on my iPhone. That same upgrade went smoothly for me, but after the yum update, grub went away. I booted into rescue mode on the install DVD and managed to reinstall grub to get my system booting again, but that was definitely annoying. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
f13, Rhythmbox, iPHone
Rythmbox *thinks* it put music on the phone, but the iPod app isn't showing it. I'll reboot everything (Fedora, iPhone) in the morning and check with fresh eyes. -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Serial port on Wine. FEDORA 13
Hey guys, I dont know if any of you have troubles using wine, when try to use a serial port, i get an Serial Port I/O Error maybe this can be a wine problem, but maybe any of you guys have solved this problem before. Thanks guys... Sugin -- - David A. Paredes R. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Network monitoring tool: any other/better than Nagios in the trend?
Dear All, I've been trying out Nagios for a while now. I begin to like it. However, before going further, I would like to know if there is any better tool out there in the trend, especially the one with an easy-to-use config tool (such as Web-based). Thanks in advance for any idea. Regards, Khem -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Network monitoring tool: any other/better than Nagios in the trend?
You could look at centreon. It wraps nagios with data logging to sql, graphing, and web based configuration. I especially like the graphs that pop up on mouseover. -- birger Typed on my cellphone so any non-conformity with regard to posting rules can be blamed on my mailer -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines