Re: [389-users] SSH AllowGroups and LDAP authentication

2010-11-17 Thread Morris, Patrick
Again, try listing them all on one line.  SSH is probably only looking 
at one of them.


From man sshd_config:

*AllowGroups*

This keyword can be followed by a list of group name patterns,
separated by spaces.


On 11/17/2010 12:08 PM, Allan Hougham wrote:

Hi Patrick,

This is my sshd_conf, and my groups:

AllowGroups root ref
AllowGroups Bids ref
AllowGroups Search ref


Thanks in advance




#   $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.73 2005/12/06 22:38:28 reyk Exp $
# This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file.  See
# sshd_config(5) for more information.
# This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
# The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with
# OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where
# possible, but leave them commented.  Uncommented options change a
# default value.
Port 22
#Protocol 2,1
Protocol 2
#AddressFamily any
#ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
#ListenAddress ::
# HostKey for protocol version 1
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
# Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
#KeyRegenerationInterval 1h
#ServerKeyBits 768
# Logging
# obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging
#SyslogFacility AUTH
SyslogFacility AUTHPRIV
#LogLevel INFO
LogLevel DEBUG
# Authentication:
#LoginGraceTime 2m
LoginGraceTime 1m
PermitRootLogin yes
#PermitRootLogin no
#StrictModes yes
#MaxAuthTries 6
MaxAuthTries 6

AllowGroups root ref
AllowGroups Bids ref
AllowGroups Search ref

RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
AuthorizedKeysFile  .ssh/authorized_keys
# For this to work you will also need host keys in 
/etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts

#RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# similar for protocol version 2
#HostbasedAuthentication no
# Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for
# RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication
#IgnoreUserKnownHosts no
# Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files
#IgnoreRhosts yes
# To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
#PasswordAuthentication yes
PermitEmptyPasswords no
PasswordAuthentication yes
# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
#ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
# Kerberos options
#KerberosAuthentication no
#KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes
#KerberosTicketCleanup yes
#KerberosGetAFSToken no
# GSSAPI options
#GSSAPIAuthentication no
#GSSAPIAuthentication yes
#GSSAPICleanupCredentials yes
# Set this to 'yes' to enable PAM authentication, account processing,
# and session processing. If this is enabled, PAM authentication will
# be allowed through the ChallengeResponseAuthentication mechanism.
# Depending on your PAM configuration, this may bypass the setting of
# PasswordAuthentication, PermitEmptyPasswords, and
# PermitRootLogin without-password. If you just want the PAM account and
# session checks to run without PAM authentication, then enable this 
but set

# ChallengeResponseAuthentication=no
#UsePAM no
UsePAM yes
# Accept locale-related environment variables
#AcceptEnv LANG LC_CTYPE LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY 
LC_MESSAGES

#AcceptEnv LC_PAPER LC_NAME LC_ADDRESS LC_TELEPHONE LC_MEASUREMENT
#AcceptEnv LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_ALL
#AllowTcpForwarding yes
AllowTcpForwarding yes
#GatewayPorts no
#X11Forwarding no
X11Forwarding no
#X11DisplayOffset 10
#X11UseLocalhost yes
#PrintMotd yes
#PrintLastLog yes
#TCPKeepAlive yes
#UseLogin no
#UsePrivilegeSeparation yes
#PermitUserEnvironment no
#Compression delayed
#ClientAliveInterval 0
#ClientAliveCountMax 3
#ShowPatchLevel no
#UseDNS yes
#PidFile /var/run/sshd.pid
#MaxStartups 10
#PermitTunnel no
# no default banner path
#Banner /some/path
# override default of no subsystems
Subsystem   sftp/usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server




Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:15:22 -0800
From: patrick.mor...@hp.com
To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: [389-users] SSH AllowGroups and LDAP authentication

On 11/15/2010 10:00 AM, Allan Hougham wrote:

Hi,

I need autenticate LDAPs Groups, but I can´t
Anybody can working with this feature? or mapping users with
groups and later configuring the LDAP Client?
What are the steps for setting LDAP Clients with LDAP Groups?


Did you see my last reply on this? I'm pretty sure you'd specified 
AllowGroups incorrectly in your SSH configuration.


Assuming you have your groups set up correctly and SSH is using PAM, 
there is no difference between configuring SSH to use LDAP groups and 
configuring it to use local ones.


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Re: mplayer-export

2010-11-17 Thread s
On 11/17/2010 12:57 AM, JD wrote:
 When I unpacked the rpm source package
 x264-0.0.0-0.28.20100706gitd058f37.fc14.src.rpm
 I found that it contains
 mplayer-export-2010-07-03.tar.bz2

 So, my question is how is
 mplayer-export-2010-07-03.tar.bz2
 different to
 mplayer-2010-07-03.tar.bz2 (just guessing the tarball's name);
 in other words, is there a not-for-export version of mplayer
 and where can I get it?


mplayer rpm's are available from http://rpmfusion.com in the free 
repository.

You may need additional codecs from http://www.mplayerhq.hu.
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Fedora-Ambassador Project

2010-11-17 Thread Arjun V
Dear Subscribers,

I heard about Fedora-Ambassador Project.
I just want to get more information about that and want to join that group.

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Re: Fedora-Ambassador Project

2010-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko

 I heard about Fedora-Ambassador Project.
 I just want to get more information about that and want to join that
 group.


http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors

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F14, X86_64 and GoogleEarth

2010-11-17 Thread John Austin
Hi

Has anyone managed to get googleearth to run with
fully updated F14 (X86_64) ?

I have googled around but can find no definitive answer.

j...@meon ~ 17$ rpm -qa|grep -i nvidia
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64-260.19.12-1.fc14.2.x86_64
kmod-nvidia-260.19.12-1.fc14.2.x86_64
nvidia-settings-1.0-8.fc14.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64
nvidia-xconfig-1.0-5.fc14.x86_64
akmod-nvidia-260.19.12-1.fc14.1.x86_64

(It also crashed with nouveau)

I have got past the install problem but only get
the startup image on the screen for 0.57596 seconds! (see below)
and then error messages when I run googleearth.

The version of googleearth is dated Build Date Sep  1 2010

John

j...@meon ~ 14$ googleearth 
Google Earth has caught signal 11.

We apologize for the inconvenience, but Google Earth has crashed.
 This is a bug in the program, and should never happen under normal
 circumstances. A bug report and debugging data have been written
 to this text file:
/home/ja/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4ce3c3ee.txt
Please include this file if you submit a bug report to Google.

j...@meon ~ 15$ cat /home/ja/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4ce3c3dc.txt
Major Version 5
Minor Version 2
Build Number 0001
Build Date Sep  1 2010
Build Time 11:25:42
OS Type 3
OS Major Version 2
OS Minor Version 6
OS Build Version 35
OS Patch Version 6
Crash Signal 11
Crash Time 1289995228
Up Time 0.57596

Stacktrace from glibc:
./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0xd090b)[0xb0790b]
[0xdbd400]
/usr/lib/libGL.so.1(glXMakeCurrent+0x17)[0x9c9ecc]
./libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext19internalMakeCurrentEv
+0x33)[0x3c4dd53]
./libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext21internalCreateContextEv
+0x1a4)[0x3c4e424]
./libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext4openEv+0x9c)[0x3c6b2ac]
/opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll13VisualContext11OpenContextEN3Gap3Gfx25igRenderDestinationFormatERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0xff)[0x2081d3f]
/opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll13VisualContext4initERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0x167)[0x2081ef7]
/opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll17RenderContextImpl4initERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0x7e)[0x1fda2ce]
./librender.so(_ZN12RenderWidget6SetApiEPN5earth4evll3APIE
+0x47)[0x9a3607]
./librender.so(_ZN5earth6render12RenderWindow12createWidgetEv
+0x182)[0x985532]
./libgoogleearth_free.so(_ZN5earth6client12ModuleWidget9showEventEP10QShowEvent+0x94)[0xae5084]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent+0xabb)[0xf4c7ef]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0xa0)[0xefce20]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent
+0x16f)[0xf068a3]
./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN16QCoreApplication14notifyInternalEP7QObjectP6QEvent
+0x70)[0x249d50]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0xcc)[0xf4f55c]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x74)[0xf4f264]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1f2)[0xf4f482]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x74)[0xf4f264]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1f2)[0xf4f482]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x74)[0xf4f264]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1f2)[0xf4f482]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10showNormalEv+0x4a)[0xf3fe9e]
./libgoogleearth_free.so(_ZN10MainWindow18readScreensizeInfoEv
+0xc35)[0xad2b15]
./libgoogleearth_free.so(_ZN5earth6client11Application12SetupMainWinENS0_3Kvw7ProductEb+0x29e)[0xb0bc1e]
./libgoogleearth_free.so(_ZN5earth6client11Application3runEv
+0x42f)[0xb12a7f]
./libgoogleearth_free.so(earthmain+0x27d)[0xb06d3d]
./googleearth-bin(_init+0x12e)[0x80486d2]
/lib/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xe6)[0x42f5ae16]

USB audio mixers

2010-11-17 Thread Tim
Has anybody connected one of the various domestic audio mixers with USB
outputs to a Linux box?  An example of one at this link:

http://bavasmusic.com.au/store/behringer-xenyx-1204usb-p-2023.html

Given a decent mixer, and something that's compatible, it ought to be a
big improvement on my sound card for capturing analogue audio, and more
useful than getting another sound card.  But I've yet to see a device
saying it'll supports anything other than Windows or Mac.  Though this
pages mentions some compatibility:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/672861-REG/Behringer_1204USB_XENYX_1204USB_12_Channel.html

Albeit in a strange way:  The energyXT2.5 software is compatible with
Mac, Windows, and even Linux operating systems.  

The software is compatible?  It's the hardware I'm concerned about.

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Re: Fedora-Ambassador Project

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Arjun V wrote:
 Dear Subscribers,

 I heard about Fedora-Ambassador Project.
 I just want to get more information about that and want to join that group.

I looked at that, but the requirement for experienced contributors suggests 
that a previous relationship as developer or maintainer, rather than 
administrators and power users. There's a contact link on the wiki page, you 
can 
certainly ask.

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Re: USB audio mixers

2010-11-17 Thread Marcus D. Leech
On 11/17/2010 10:02 AM, Tim wrote:
 Has anybody connected one of the various domestic audio mixers with USB
 outputs to a Linux box?  An example of one at this link:

 http://bavasmusic.com.au/store/behringer-xenyx-1204usb-p-2023.html

 Given a decent mixer, and something that's compatible, it ought to be a
 big improvement on my sound card for capturing analogue audio, and more
 useful than getting another sound card.  But I've yet to see a device
 saying it'll supports anything other than Windows or Mac.  Though this
 pages mentions some compatibility:

 http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/672861-REG/Behringer_1204USB_XENYX_1204USB_12_Channel.html

 Albeit in a strange way:  The energyXT2.5 software is compatible with
 Mac, Windows, and even Linux operating systems.  

 The software is compatible?  It's the hardware I'm concerned about.

   
I use one of these on my F12 system--works just fine but it's not
full-duplex:

http://us.store.creative.com/Sound-Blaster-XFi-Surround-5.1/M/B0017QQQAE.htm

Which is fine for my 96KHz capture application.



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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Clive Hills wrote:
 I just saw an email from you saying init also dumps.
 I'd seriously consider if the box is okay/check the installation.
 Are you using systemd?
 And by the way it's just F14. FC6 was the last Fedora to bear the Core name.

Look at your rpm names, they are all fc14 (and hopefully will continue to be so 
to avoid confusion with other projects).

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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Clive Hills
There is a good reason that the rpms are fc14.rpm etc. It stands for Fedora
Community.
None the less it is Fedora 14 not Fedora Core 14 that is the distribution
name.
Clive
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Nouveau won't load with custom kernel 2.6.35.6-48

2010-11-17 Thread stan
I compiled a custom kernel in F14 using the Fedora source RPM, and
created a custom initramfs for it using dracut.  It boots, and X tries
to load nouveau, but it fails and falls back to VESA.  Here is the
pertinent section from Xorg.0.log while it was booting.

44.002] (II) NOUVEAU driver 
[44.002] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
[44.002]RIVA TNT(NV04)
[44.002]RIVA TNT2   (NV05)
[44.002]GeForce 256 (NV10)
[44.002]GeForce 2   (NV11, NV15)
[44.002]GeForce 4MX (NV17, NV18)
[44.002]GeForce 3   (NV20)
[44.002]GeForce 4Ti (NV25, NV28)
[44.002]GeForce FX  (NV3x)
[44.002]GeForce 6   (NV4x)
[44.002]GeForce 7   (G7x)
[44.002]GeForce 8   (G8x)
[44.002] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
[44.002] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
[44.002] (++) using VT number 1

[44.008] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[44.082] [drm] failed to load kernel module nouveau
[44.082] (EE) [drm] failed to open device

It isn't clear to me why it failed.  Can anyone clarify for me what is
wrong here and how I should fix it?  I think my device is a 4MX in the
list above.

Thanks.
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Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread JD
I tried to build mplayer from source rpm.
mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm

The build seems to die at the last step of linking all
the objects to produce the binary mplayer.
The failure is:

/usr/bin/ld: osdep/getch2.o: undefined reference to symbol 'tgetnum'
/usr/bin/ld: note: 'tgetnum' is defined in DSO /lib/libtinfo.so.5 so try 
adding it to the linker command line
/lib/libtinfo.so.5: could not read symbols: Invalid operation


$ ls -l /lib/libtinfo*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 May 30 09:59 /lib/libtinfo.so.5 - 
libtinfo.so.5.7
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 130136 Feb  3  2010 /lib/libtinfo.so.5.7
$ ls -l /usr/lib/libtinfo*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 30 10:29 /usr/lib/libtinfo.so - 
../../lib/libtinfo.so.5

The mplayer mailing list has suggested that they do not
support any distro based source packages.


See the full output below. This is the step that fails:

cc -o mplayer command.o m_property.o mixer.o mp_fifo.o mplayer.o 
parser-mpcmd.o input/input.o libao2/ao_mpegpes.o libao2/ao_null.o 
libao2/ao_pcm.o libao2/audio_out.o libvo/aspect.o libvo/geometry.o 
libvo/spuenc.o libvo/video_out.o libvo/vo_mpegpes.o libvo/vo_null.o 
libvo/vo_aa.o libao2/ao_alsa.o input/appleir.o libao2/ao_arts.o 
libvo/vo_caca.o libvo/vo_dga.o libvo/vo_dxr3.o libao2/ao_esd.o 
libvo/vo_fbdev.o libvo/vo_fbdev2.o libvo/vo_gif89a.o libvo/gl_common.o 
libvo/vo_gl.o libvo/vo_gl2.o libvo/csputils.o libvo/sdl_common.o 
libvo/x11_common.o libvo/vo_matrixview.o libvo/matrixview.o gui/bitmap.o 
gui/app.o gui/cfg.o gui/interface.o gui/mplayer/gui_common.o 
gui/mplayer/menu.o gui/mplayer/mw.o gui/mplayer/pb.o gui/mplayer/play.o 
gui/mplayer/sw.o gui/mplayer/widgets.o gui/mplayer/gtk/about.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/eq.o gui/mplayer/gtk/fs.o gui/mplayer/gtk/gtk_common.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/gtk_menu.o gui/mplayer/gtk/gtk_url.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/mb.o gui/mplayer/gtk/opts.o gui/mplayer/gtk/pl.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/sb.o gui/skin/cut.o gui/skin/font.o gui/skin/skin.o 
gui/wm/ws.o gui/wm/wsxdnd.o libao2/ao_jack.o input/joystick.o 
libvo/vo_jpeg.o libvo/vo_png.o libmenu/menu.o libmenu/menu_chapsel.o 
libmenu/menu_cmdlist.o libmenu/menu_console.o libmenu/menu_filesel.o 
libmenu/menu_list.o libmenu/menu_param.o libmenu/menu_pt.o 
libmenu/menu_txt.o libmenu/vf_menu.o libmenu/menu_dvbin.o input/lirc.o 
libvo/vo_md5sum.o libao2/ao_openal.o libao2/ao_oss.o libvo/vo_pnm.o 
libao2/ao_pulse.o libao2/ao_sdl.o libvo/vo_sdl.o libvo/vo_svga.o 
libvo/vo_tga.o libvo/vo_v4l2.o libao2/ao_v4l2.o libvo/vo_vdpau.o 
libvo/vo_cvidix.o libvo/vosub_vidix.o vidix/vidix.o vidix/drivers.o 
vidix/dha.o vidix/mtrr.o vidix/pci.o vidix/pci_names.o 
vidix/pci_dev_ids.o vidix/cyberblade_vid.o vidix/mach64_vid.o 
vidix/mga_vid.o vidix/mga_crtc2_vid.o vidix/nvidia_vid.o vidix/pm2_vid.o 
vidix/pm3_vid.o vidix/radeon_vid.o vidix/rage128_vid.o vidix/s3_vid.o 
vidix/sis_vid.o vidix/sis_bridge.o vidix/unichrome_vid.o libvo/vo_x11.o 
libvo/vo_xover.o libvo/vo_xv.o libvo/vo_xvidix.o libvo/vo_xvmc.o 
libvo/vo_yuv4mpeg.o asxparser.o codec-cfg.o cpudetect.o edl.o find_sub.o 
fmt-conversion.o m_config.o m_option.o m_struct.o mp_msg.o mpcommon.o 
parser-cfg.o path.o playtree.o playtreeparser.o spudec.o sub_cc.o 
subopt-helper.o subreader.o vobsub.o libaf/af.o libaf/af_center.o 
libaf/af_channels.o libaf/af_comp.o libaf/af_delay.o libaf/af_dummy.o 
libaf/af_equalizer.o libaf/af_extrastereo.o libaf/af_format.o 
libaf/af_gate.o libaf/af_hrtf.o libaf/af_karaoke.o libaf/af_pan.o 
libaf/af_resample.o libaf/af_scaletempo.o libaf/af_sinesuppress.o 
libaf/af_stats.o libaf/af_sub.o libaf/af_surround.o libaf/af_sweep.o 
libaf/af_tools.o libaf/af_volnorm.o libaf/af_volume.o libaf/filter.o 
libaf/format.o libaf/reorder_ch.o libaf/window.o libmpcodecs/ad.o 
libmpcodecs/ad_alaw.o libmpcodecs/ad_dk3adpcm.o libmpcodecs/ad_dvdpcm.o 
libmpcodecs/ad_hwac3.o libmpcodecs/ad_hwmpa.o libmpcodecs/ad_imaadpcm.o 
libmpcodecs/ad_msadpcm.o libmpcodecs/ad_msgsm.o libmpcodecs/ad_pcm.o 
libmpcodecs/dec_audio.o libmpcodecs/dec_teletext.o 
libmpcodecs/dec_video.o libmpcodecs/img_format.o libmpcodecs/mp_image.o 
libmpcodecs/native/xa_gsm.o libmpcodecs/pullup.o libmpcodecs/vd.o 
libmpcodecs/vd_hmblck.o libmpcodecs/vd_lzo.o libmpcodecs/vd_mpegpes.o 
libmpcodecs/vd_mtga.o libmpcodecs/vd_null.o libmpcodecs/vd_raw.o 
libmpcodecs/vd_sgi.o libmpcodecs/vf.o libmpcodecs/vf_1bpp.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_2xsai.o libmpcodecs/vf_blackframe.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_boxblur.o libmpcodecs/vf_crop.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_cropdetect.o libmpcodecs/vf_decimate.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_delogo.o libmpcodecs/vf_denoise3d.o libmpcodecs/vf_detc.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_dint.o libmpcodecs/vf_divtc.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_down3dright.o libmpcodecs/vf_dsize.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_dvbscale.o libmpcodecs/vf_eq.o libmpcodecs/vf_eq2.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_expand.o libmpcodecs/vf_field.o libmpcodecs/vf_fil.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_filmdint.o libmpcodecs/vf_fixpts.o libmpcodecs/vf_flip.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_format.o libmpcodecs/vf_framestep.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_gradfun.o libmpcodecs/vf_halfpack.o 
libmpcodecs/vf_harddup.o 

Re: Nouveau won't load with custom kernel 2.6.35.6-48

2010-11-17 Thread Harald Hoyer
Am 17.11.2010 17:24, schrieb stan:
 I compiled a custom kernel in F14 using the Fedora source RPM, and
 created a custom initramfs for it using dracut.  It boots, and X tries
 to load nouveau, but it fails and falls back to VESA.  Here is the
 pertinent section from Xorg.0.log while it was booting.

 44.002] (II) NOUVEAU driver
 [44.002] (II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
 [44.002]RIVA TNT(NV04)
 [44.002]RIVA TNT2   (NV05)
 [44.002]GeForce 256 (NV10)
 [44.002]GeForce 2   (NV11, NV15)
 [44.002]GeForce 4MX (NV17, NV18)
 [44.002]GeForce 3   (NV20)
 [44.002]GeForce 4Ti (NV25, NV28)
 [44.002]GeForce FX  (NV3x)
 [44.002]GeForce 6   (NV4x)
 [44.002]GeForce 7   (G7x)
 [44.002]GeForce 8   (G8x)
 [44.002] (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
 [44.002] (II) FBDEV: driver for framebuffer: fbdev
 [44.002] (++) using VT number 1

 [44.008] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
 [44.082] [drm] failed to load kernel module nouveau
 [44.082] (EE) [drm] failed to open device

 It isn't clear to me why it failed.  Can anyone clarify for me what is
 wrong here and how I should fix it?  I think my device is a 4MX in the
 list above.

 Thanks.

Remove any umask call from /usr/share/dracut/modules.d/99base/init and rebuild 
your initramfs.

I will update dracut soon.
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FC14 good/bad news

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
I installed FC14 in a VM, on a 7.7GB disk image. After that was installed and 
tested to some extent, I copied the image to an 8GB SD memory and booted off 
it. 
Worked with the micro-SD in an adaptor to full size SD, and in a micro-SD to 
USB 
nubbin. When I installed I made the filesystems ext2 to avoid beating the 
storage, other than that stock install.

Now I can select enhanced effects for video, and they work fine (for values of 
fine considering I wanted to see if they work, not that I want them on). 
However, the display is still dog slow, glxgears runs at 60fps, video is jerky, 
etc. So the better video now doesn't crash, does provide effects I don't 
need, 
and is still too slow to be useful, even on a non-game machine. So much for not 
using vendor drivers.

System is i7-950, 12GB RAM, Radeon HD 4350 video, used as a VM host most of the 
time. Not a killer machine, not a dog.

I will be doing some testing to see if the newer KVM is any better in a 
measurable way, but when VNC to a machine with fast video is better than 
console, there is room for improvement.

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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jerry Feldman wrote:
 On 11/15/2010 03:29 PM, mike cloaked wrote:
 At the weekend I was invited to attend a local linux user group
 installfest since all the other people there was Ubuntu-centric.  I
 took along a Fedora f14 Gnome desktop install DVD, as well as a
 bootable usbkey containing the DVD iso as an install medium in case of
 need (written with livecd-iso-to-disk.

 The banter at the event was all about the latest Ubuntu, and a young
 Italian lady had dropped in, who was not best pleased with the default
 operating system on an EEEPC 901, and had brought it to the
 installfest with a view to getting a proper version of linux on it
 with the help of the experts at hand.

 The Ubuntu helpers worked out how to boot a usbkey and eagerly set
 about starting an install of the latest Ubuntu, whilst I discussed
 Fedora with them in terms of differences from what they were used to.
 So what drivers will you need to load to get the wireless going on
 the EEEPC if you installed F14?  I told them it was very likely it
 would just work out of the box.  They were not convinced!  What about
 the webcam? - it'll probably 'just work', I replied.  Anyway it was
 by now becoming clear that the Ubuntu install was not going well, and
 questions were being asked across the room about how to get around the
 error that was popping into the screen before the install had got off
 the starting blocks!

 I offered my help to try an f14 install as an alternative.  I popped
 my key into the usb slot and initiated an install.  Anaconda did its
 thing, and I configured the install - and set it going - of course
 with a slow machine it would take a while, and an hour and a bit later
 it went into first boot.

 Ubuntu people watching over my shoulder waiting for the inevitable
 failure to connect to the local encrypted wireless signal
 (authenticated via a radius server) were surprised when the wireless
 network connection was running about 30 seconds later.  A little
 desktop tweaking, and then adding in a couple of extra repo
 definitions allowed the young lady access to her mp3 player via the
 usb port,and play her mp3 files, and Skype fired up without issue.
 Chrome was running a few minutes later, and then the Italian keyboard
 was put through its paces. Not a single problem, and she went away
 with a beaming smile delighted at the working system, and commenting
 on how wonderful the desktop background graphics were. The others were
 clearly impressed.

 One guy commented that the colour scheme was rather more pleasing to
 his eye than his own Ubuntu scheme!

 I donated the install DVD to the event, and left for another
 engagement. I later learned that they had used it to do several f14
 installs on other machines!

 Fedora does seem to work!

 Two satisfied customers. For the first time I was able to successfully
 perform a preupgrade. The previous two times I had to do a fresh install.

Just a in my experience note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been far 
more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and 
often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV.

 My group also runs installfests
 (http://blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2010-ifest38), but we are not as
 Ubuntu-centric. I try to be up to date on my Fedora, SuSE, and Ubuntu
 knowledge. What is always interesting to me is that some distros install
 on some hardware and not on others and vice-versa. Usually, when I run
 into trouble with one distro on some hardware, I try another. But I have
 a wierder problem at work. I have 5 nearly identical rack-mounted
 systems. (4 have 64GB memory, and 1 had 16). Installing RHEL 5.2 works
 fine on 4 of the systems including the 16GB, but 1 system always hangs
 on udev until I manually blacklist the edac modules. I've had similar
 issues during the installfest where 1 media failed to install on one
 system, but did install on a second system. We've been doing
 installfests for 16 years and a number of the core volunteers are distro
 neutral even in one meeting where SuSE bought the pizzas :-)



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Re: Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread stan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:30:39 -0800
JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried to build mplayer from source rpm.
 mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm
 
 The build seems to die at the last step of linking all
 the objects to produce the binary mplayer.
 The failure is:
 
 /usr/bin/ld: osdep/getch2.o: undefined reference to symbol 'tgetnum'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'tgetnum' is defined in DSO /lib/libtinfo.so.5 so
 try adding it to the linker command line
 /lib/libtinfo.so.5: could not read symbols: Invalid operation

I am able to build successfully mplayer on F14 x86_64 using the source
from subversion at the mplayer website.

When building from source, their README requires running ./configure,
though they say that they aren't actually running the autoconf version
but an emulation they wrote.  This discovers all the libraries and adds
them to the linker line.

I noticed that your linker line had no -ltinfo in it, so compiling from
the source RPM didn't perform this step, it seems.  Maybe the
maintainer doesn't have this library installed.  I *think* there is a
config include that with this information, so you could add it manually
and it should work.

Probably a good thing to document this with a bugzilla.
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Re: Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/17/2010 05:05 PM, stan wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:30:39 -0800
 JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I tried to build mplayer from source rpm.
 mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm

 The build seems to die at the last step of linking all
 the objects to produce the binary mplayer.
 The failure is:

 /usr/bin/ld: osdep/getch2.o: undefined reference to symbol 'tgetnum'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'tgetnum' is defined in DSO /lib/libtinfo.so.5 so
 try adding it to the linker command line
 /lib/libtinfo.so.5: could not read symbols: Invalid operation

I just successfully built mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm on
F13 i686. I have ncurses-devel installed.

Are you sure your /lib/libtinfo.so.5 is OK?

Is your box 32-bit or 64-bit?

Andrew.
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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/2010 08:22 AM, Clive Hills wrote:
 There is a good reason that the rpms are fc14.rpm etc. It stands for
 Fedora Community.
 None the less it is Fedora 14 not Fedora Core 14 that is the
 distribution name.
 Clive


I've noticed that it's almost always newcomers who use Fedora Core when 
referring to the distro.  It's almost as though they're trying to look 
like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only 
manage to look clueless.
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Re: FC14 good/bad news

2010-11-17 Thread Alan Evans
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 System is i7-950, 12GB RAM ... Not a killer machine, not a dog.

Whatever you consider a killer machine, I want one.

-Alan
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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Jerry Feldman
On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Just a in my experience note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been 
 far 
 more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and 
 often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV.
When I installed F13 from DVD, I specifically allocated a larger /boot
for this specific reason. My /boot is 485MB.


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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Andras Simon
On 11/17/10, Jerry Feldman g...@blu.org wrote:
 On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Just a in my experience note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been
 far
 more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot
 and
 often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV.
 When I installed F13 from DVD, I specifically allocated a larger /boot
 for this specific reason. My /boot is 485MB.

Note that Bill wrote Older installs. F13 is not particularly old.

Andras
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Re: Init fails on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Heinz Diehl wrote:
 Hi,

 after a boot into Gnome and opening a root console,
 switching to runlevel 3 (or whatever) fails. init 3 or telinit 3
 does simply nothing, and the box begins to lock up. There's no problem to
 boot into runlevel 3 or whatever.

 Does anybody here encounter the same, and know a solution?

The next time I'm booted on 14 I'll try that. I did try it in a VM and it 
worked 
back and forth between 5 and 3 multiple times.

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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Jerry Feldman wrote:
 On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Just a in my experience note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been 
 far
 more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and
 often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV.
 When I installed F13 from DVD, I specifically allocated a larger /boot
 for this specific reason. My /boot is 485MB.

If preupgrade runs in that I'd love to know how much stuff it installs. And 
doesn't change my feelings about the inherent complexity of doing an in-place 
upgrade on a running system.

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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Clive Hills wrote:
 There is a good reason that the rpms are fc14.rpm etc. It stands for
 Fedora Community.
 None the less it is Fedora 14 not Fedora Core 14 that is the
 distribution name.

Actually he didn't say Core anywhere but as a modifier for dump. So your 
comment/correction about it not being Fedora Core is unrelated to anything he 
said, and his use if fc14 in the subject was correct.

Corrections are best done after someone makes a mistake.

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RE: Ganglia - gmetad segfaults after starting gmond [SOLVED]

2010-11-17 Thread Alan J. Gagne
 After upgrade to fedora 14 from 13 gmetad process segfaults when
 updating rrd graphs. Anybody seeing this problem ?

 [linux2 ~]# rpm -qa | grep ganglia
 ganglia-web-3.1.7-2.fc14.i686
 ganglia-gmetad-3.1.7-2.fc14.i686
 ganglia-3.1.7-2.fc14.i686
 ganglia-gmond-3.1.7-2.fc14.i686


 To get around this problem I compiled ganglia 3.1.7 from source

The problem was with rrdtool-1.3.8-4.
The new version of rrdtool-1.4.4-1.fc14.i686 fixes this issue.

See https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654246 for details.


Alan


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Re: Online source code browser

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
stan wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:17:02 -0800
 JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 Is there an online source code browser for Fedora Packages?

 I've never heard of such a thing, and it would be a big project.  I
 hope someone knows of one, it would be convenient.

 As far as I'm aware, the way to do this is to create a build tree in
 your home directory,
 rpmdev-setuptree
 and then get the src.rpm package,
 yumdownloader --sourcepackage name
 and install it in the build tree, as a user.
 rpm -ivhpackage name
 Once this is done, move to the SPEC directory,
 cd ~/rpmbuild/SPEC
 and run the rpmbuild command to unpack everything.
 rpmbuild -bppackage name.spec
 At this point the source will be unpacked in
 ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/package name
 You can then look at it with the editor of your choice.

Thank you for the concise description of how to do this, I'm going to use it 
(with attribution) the next time someone hits me with how do I... on building 
from source.

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Re: F14, X86_64 and GoogleEarth

2010-11-17 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 11/17/2010 07:14 AM, John Austin wrote:
 Hi
 
 Has anyone managed to get googleearth to run with
 fully updated F14 (X86_64) ?

I have just run it on my laptop, F14, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 using
the VESA driver in 1024x768 using the OpenGL renderer:

 
 Google Earth
 5.0.11733.9347
 Build Date
 May 5, 2009
 Build Time
 1:47:18 am
 Renderer
 OpenGL
 Operating System
 Linux (2.6.35.6)
 Video Driver
 Mesa Project
 Max Texture Size
 4096x4096
 Server
 kh.google.com

I haven't gotten the radeon driver working yet (it used to work on F12),
but I was able to fly to my house and zoom in on it, so, I have to
answer it works for me, but, I haven't installed the latest GoogleEarth
in a while

 I have googled around but can find no definitive answer.
 
 j...@meon ~ 17$ rpm -qa|grep -i nvidia
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64-260.19.12-1.fc14.2.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-260.19.12-1.fc14.2.x86_64
 nvidia-settings-1.0-8.fc14.x86_64
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64
 nvidia-xconfig-1.0-5.fc14.x86_64
 akmod-nvidia-260.19.12-1.fc14.1.x86_64
 
 (It also crashed with nouveau)

Have you tried the VESA driver yet?  It has no hardware acceleration
support, but it should work with software rendering

 I have got past the install problem but only get
 the startup image on the screen for 0.57596 seconds! (see below)
 and then error messages when I run googleearth.
 
 The version of googleearth is dated Build Date Sep  1 2010
 
 John
 
 j...@meon ~ 14$ googleearth 
 Google Earth has caught signal 11.
 
 We apologize for the inconvenience, but Google Earth has crashed.
  This is a bug in the program, and should never happen under normal
  circumstances. A bug report and debugging data have been written
  to this text file:
 /home/ja/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4ce3c3ee.txt
 Please include this file if you submit a bug report to Google.
 
 j...@meon ~ 15$ cat /home/ja/.googleearth/crashlogs/crashlog-4ce3c3dc.txt
 Major Version 5
 Minor Version 2
 Build Number 0001
 Build Date Sep  1 2010
 Build Time 11:25:42
 OS Type 3
 OS Major Version 2
 OS Minor Version 6
 OS Build Version 35
 OS Patch Version 6
 Crash Signal 11
 Crash Time 1289995228
 Up Time 0.57596
 
 Stacktrace from glibc:
 ./libgoogleearth_free.so(+0xd090b)[0xb0790b]
 [0xdbd400]
 /usr/lib/libGL.so.1(glXMakeCurrent+0x17)[0x9c9ecc]
 ./libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext19internalMakeCurrentEv
 +0x33)[0x3c4dd53]
 ./libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext21internalCreateContextEv
 +0x1a4)[0x3c4e424]
 ./libIGGfx.so(_ZN3Gap3Gfx18igOglVisualContext4openEv+0x9c)[0x3c6b2ac]
 /opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll13VisualContext11OpenContextEN3Gap3Gfx25igRenderDestinationFormatERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0xff)[0x2081d3f]
 /opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll13VisualContext4initERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0x167)[0x2081ef7]
 /opt/google-earth/libevll.so(_ZN5earth4evll17RenderContextImpl4initERKNS0_8InitInfoE+0x7e)[0x1fda2ce]
 ./librender.so(_ZN12RenderWidget6SetApiEPN5earth4evll3APIE
 +0x47)[0x9a3607]
 ./librender.so(_ZN5earth6render12RenderWindow12createWidgetEv
 +0x182)[0x985532]
 ./libgoogleearth_free.so(_ZN5earth6client12ModuleWidget9showEventEP10QShowEvent+0x94)[0xae5084]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget5eventEP6QEvent+0xabb)[0xf4c7ef]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN19QApplicationPrivate13notify_helperEP7QObjectP6QEvent+0xa0)[0xefce20]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN12QApplication6notifyEP7QObjectP6QEvent
 +0x16f)[0xf068a3]
 ./libQtCore.so.4(_ZN16QCoreApplication14notifyInternalEP7QObjectP6QEvent
 +0x70)[0x249d50]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0xcc)[0xf4f55c]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x74)[0xf4f264]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1f2)[0xf4f482]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x74)[0xf4f264]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1f2)[0xf4f482]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate14show_recursiveEv+0x74)[0xf4f264]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1f2)[0xf4f482]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate12showChildrenEb+0x1d9)[0xf4f469]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN14QWidgetPrivate11show_helperEv+0x45)[0xf4f4d5]
 ./libQtGui.so.4(_ZN7QWidget10setVisibleEb+0x33b)[0xf4fa97]
 

RE: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Alan J. Gagne
 Jerry Feldman wrote:
 On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Just a in my experience note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been 
 far
 more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot and
 often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV.
 When I installed F13 from DVD, I specifically allocated a larger /boot
 for this specific reason. My /boot is 485MB.

 If preupgrade runs in that I'd love to know how much stuff it installs. And
 doesn't change my feelings about the inherent complexity of doing an in-place
 upgrade on a running system.

On three machines I just upgraded to F14 from F13 they have 300MB /boot. 
I took all three down to just the running kernel prior to using 
preupgrade. Just before the reboot to the actual upgrade it reports I 
have 60MB left on /boot and need 26MB for the kernel. I think next time 
around I will need to do fresh installs so I can resize my /boot.

Alan
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Re: thunderbird-lightning fails on F12

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Paolo Galtieri wrote:
 I tried sending this last week, but never saw it on the list.

 Recently F12 updated thunderbird to 3.0.10; however, there was no update
 to thunderbird-lightning so I no longer have access to my calendar.
 When I start thunderbird I get a  message saying lightning 1.0b2pre is
 not compatible with thunderbird 3.0.10.  Is there a plan to provide a
 compatible thunderbird-lightning?  Before I upgrade I want to be able to
 export my existing thunderbird settings including my calendar events.

 Also the thunderbird addon to provide bidirectional access to google
 calendar no longer works for the same reason.

I suspect this is an end-of-life support issue. Someone updated Tbird and not 
all of the things which depend on it. I would use yum to downgrade to the 
previous version, since it's unlikely to get fixed properly (you could look in 
updates-testing, though).

Better to leave mail working with a bug than secure and unusable!

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Re: Online source code browser

2010-11-17 Thread stan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:30:22 -0500
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:

 stan wrote:
  On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 10:17:02 -0800
  JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote:
 
  Is there an online source code browser for Fedora Packages?
 
  I've never heard of such a thing, and it would be a big project.  I
  hope someone knows of one, it would be convenient.
 
  As far as I'm aware, the way to do this is to create a build tree in
  your home directory,
  rpmdev-setuptree
  and then get the src.rpm package,
  yumdownloader --sourcepackage name
  and install it in the build tree, as a user.
  rpm -ivhpackage name
  Once this is done, move to the SPEC directory,
  cd ~/rpmbuild/SPEC
  and run the rpmbuild command to unpack everything.
  rpmbuild -bppackage name.spec
  At this point the source will be unpacked in
  ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/package name
  You can then look at it with the editor of your choice.
 
 Thank you for the concise description of how to do this, I'm going to
 use it (with attribution) the next time someone hits me with how do
 I... on building from source.
 
You're welcome, glad it was helpful.  It probably exists on the Fedora
wiki somewhere, though probably not so succinctly stated.  I do know the
compile a custom kernel page has a more detailed and involved
explanation.  I forgot to mention in the above that the patches that
fedora applies will be in the ~/rpmbuild/SOURCE directory after
unpacking.
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Re: FC14 install memory requirements

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
Bruno Wolff III wrote:
 On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 10:23:00 -0800,
Patrick Bartekbartek...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 If all this fails, you may try creating your own spin of F14 using revisor.

 Write not there is an issue with revisor, so you'd want to use pungi.

s/want to/need to/  ;-)

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Re: F12 - F14 (via preupgrade), not so smooth

2010-11-17 Thread Bill Davidsen
stan wrote:
 On Sun, 14 Nov 2010 21:25:08 -0600
 Ryan O'Hararoh...@redhat.com  wrote:

 Those messages on the console (with the timestamp) are from
 dmesg. These are visible on the console in F14 because rc.sysinit no
 longer sets the dmesg logging level, thus all messages from dmesg end
 up being written to the console. See dmesg(1) for more
 information. If you have an older Fedora machine handy you can look at
 rc.sysinit where you will find the following:

 Fix console loglevel
 if [ -# n $LOGLEVEL ]; then
/bin/dmesg -n $LOGLEVEL
 fi

 This is missing from F14.

 I'm of the opinion that this should be fixed. Printing dmesg messages
 to the console by default is too much.

 I was able to get things back to normal by adding 'dmesg -n 3' to
 rc.sysinit. If there is a better way, please let me know. Also, if
 there is a compelling reason that this was removed from F14, I'd be
 interested to know what that reason is.

 Thank you for posting this.

 I used the above with an else in case $LOGLEVEL wasn't defined.  I
 assume that is the reason it was dropped, but if it still exists, I'll
 use it.

 #Fix console loglevel
 if [ -# n $LOGLEVEL ]; then
/bin/dmesg -n $LOGLEVEL
 else
/bin/dmesg -n 3
 fi

/bin/dmesg -n ${LOGLEVEL:-3}

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Re: thunderbird-lightning fails on F12

2010-11-17 Thread Paolo Galtieri
On 11/17/10 12:48, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Paolo Galtieri wrote:
 I tried sending this last week, but never saw it on the list.

 Recently F12 updated thunderbird to 3.0.10; however, there was no update
 to thunderbird-lightning so I no longer have access to my calendar.
 When I start thunderbird I get a  message saying lightning 1.0b2pre is
 not compatible with thunderbird 3.0.10.  Is there a plan to provide a
 compatible thunderbird-lightning?  Before I upgrade I want to be able to
 export my existing thunderbird settings including my calendar events.

 Also the thunderbird addon to provide bidirectional access to google
 calendar no longer works for the same reason.

 I suspect this is an end-of-life support issue. Someone updated Tbird and not
 all of the things which depend on it. I would use yum to downgrade to the
 previous version, since it's unlikely to get fixed properly (you could look in
 updates-testing, though).

 Better to leave mail working with a bug than secure and unusable!

It's just frustrating that Fedora will sometimes release updates that 
break things.

Paolo
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Re: [389-users] SSH AllowGroups and LDAP authentication

2010-11-17 Thread Allan Hougham

Hi Patrick,
 
This is my sshd_conf, and my groups:
 
AllowGroups root ref
AllowGroups Bids ref
AllowGroups Search ref
 
 
Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 
#   $OpenBSD: sshd_config,v 1.73 2005/12/06 22:38:28 reyk Exp $
# This is the sshd server system-wide configuration file.  See
# sshd_config(5) for more information.
# This sshd was compiled with PATH=/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin
# The strategy used for options in the default sshd_config shipped with
# OpenSSH is to specify options with their default value where
# possible, but leave them commented.  Uncommented options change a
# default value.
Port 22
#Protocol 2,1
Protocol 2
#AddressFamily any
#ListenAddress 0.0.0.0
#ListenAddress ::
# HostKey for protocol version 1
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key
# HostKeys for protocol version 2
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key
#HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key
# Lifetime and size of ephemeral version 1 server key
#KeyRegenerationInterval 1h
#ServerKeyBits 768
# Logging
# obsoletes QuietMode and FascistLogging
#SyslogFacility AUTH
SyslogFacility AUTHPRIV
#LogLevel INFO
LogLevel DEBUG
# Authentication:
#LoginGraceTime 2m
LoginGraceTime 1m
PermitRootLogin yes
#PermitRootLogin no
#StrictModes yes
#MaxAuthTries 6
MaxAuthTries 6
 
AllowGroups root ref
AllowGroups Bids ref
AllowGroups Search ref
 
RSAAuthentication yes
PubkeyAuthentication yes
AuthorizedKeysFile  .ssh/authorized_keys
# For this to work you will also need host keys in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
#RhostsRSAAuthentication no
# similar for protocol version 2
#HostbasedAuthentication no
# Change to yes if you don't trust ~/.ssh/known_hosts for
# RhostsRSAAuthentication and HostbasedAuthentication
#IgnoreUserKnownHosts no
# Don't read the user's ~/.rhosts and ~/.shosts files
#IgnoreRhosts yes
# To disable tunneled clear text passwords, change to no here!
#PasswordAuthentication yes
PermitEmptyPasswords no
PasswordAuthentication yes
# Change to no to disable s/key passwords
#ChallengeResponseAuthentication yes
ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
# Kerberos options
#KerberosAuthentication no
#KerberosOrLocalPasswd yes
#KerberosTicketCleanup yes
#KerberosGetAFSToken no
# GSSAPI options
#GSSAPIAuthentication no
#GSSAPIAuthentication yes
#GSSAPICleanupCredentials yes
# Set this to 'yes' to enable PAM authentication, account processing,
# and session processing. If this is enabled, PAM authentication will
# be allowed through the ChallengeResponseAuthentication mechanism.
# Depending on your PAM configuration, this may bypass the setting of
# PasswordAuthentication, PermitEmptyPasswords, and
# PermitRootLogin without-password. If you just want the PAM account and
# session checks to run without PAM authentication, then enable this but set
# ChallengeResponseAuthentication=no
#UsePAM no
UsePAM yes
# Accept locale-related environment variables
#AcceptEnv LANG LC_CTYPE LC_NUMERIC LC_TIME LC_COLLATE LC_MONETARY LC_MESSAGES
#AcceptEnv LC_PAPER LC_NAME LC_ADDRESS LC_TELEPHONE LC_MEASUREMENT
#AcceptEnv LC_IDENTIFICATION LC_ALL
#AllowTcpForwarding yes
AllowTcpForwarding yes
#GatewayPorts no
#X11Forwarding no
X11Forwarding no
#X11DisplayOffset 10
#X11UseLocalhost yes
#PrintMotd yes
#PrintLastLog yes
#TCPKeepAlive yes
#UseLogin no
#UsePrivilegeSeparation yes
#PermitUserEnvironment no
#Compression delayed
#ClientAliveInterval 0
#ClientAliveCountMax 3
#ShowPatchLevel no
#UseDNS yes
#PidFile /var/run/sshd.pid
#MaxStartups 10
#PermitTunnel no
# no default banner path
#Banner /some/path
# override default of no subsystems
Subsystem   sftp/usr/libexec/openssh/sftp-server
 

 


Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 10:15:22 -0800
From: patrick.mor...@hp.com
To: 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: [389-users] SSH AllowGroups and LDAP authentication


On 11/15/2010 10:00 AM, Allan Hougham wrote: 


Hi, 
 
I need autenticate LDAPs Groups, but I can´t
Anybody can working with this feature? or mapping users with groups and later 
configuring the LDAP Client?
What are the steps for setting LDAP Clients with LDAP Groups?

Did you see my last reply on this? I'm pretty sure you'd specified AllowGroups 
incorrectly in your SSH configuration.

Assuming you have your groups set up correctly and SSH is using PAM, there is 
no difference between configuring SSH to use LDAP groups and configuring it to 
use local ones.

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Progressively Advancing Video Regressions

2010-11-17 Thread Philip Vetter
Any ideas why I might be experiencing a progressive degradation of Red 
Hat/Fedora's out-of-the-box support for multiple monitors, and what I can 
do to get things working again?

(0) I used to be able to run 4 monitors off of my desktop machine with 
suspend and resume. 1 double output card and 2 single output cards.
This was with hand-crafted xorg.conf that (if I recall correctly) was 
no longer effective after xorg and video subsystem rearchitecting.

With various Fedora upgrades over time:

(-1) Resume stopped working. Comes up in a frozen state.  (many months 
ago)

(-2) Suspend stopped working. Computer shuts down but only partly. CPU 
fans keep spinning, etc.  (many months ago)

(-3) Stopped being able to configure multiple video cards.
(but could configure both outputs of a single AGP card.)
In particular, 'X -configure' would lock the system.
   (many months ago)

(-4) Fedora 13, kernel 2.6.34.6-54 and subsequent: boot failure or broken 
video whenever there is more than one video card present. This would occur 
with 2 ATI cards, and also with 2 NVidia cards. (Weeks ago)

(-5) Fedora 14 does not properly recognize the only card installed.
(This card has two outputs)
gnome-display-properties reports only one Monitor:Unknown and will only 
mirror the outputs.  (Last week)

Thank you for your help + insight!

-Phil


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Re: F14, X86_64 and GoogleEarth

2010-11-17 Thread Craig Goodyear
On 11/17/2010 06:14 AM, John Austin wrote:
 Hi

 Has anyone managed to get googleearth to run with
 fully updated F14 (X86_64) ?

 I have googled around but can find no definitive answer.

 j...@meon ~ 17$ rpm -qa|grep -i nvidia
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64-260.19.12-1.fc14.2.x86_64
 kmod-nvidia-260.19.12-1.fc14.2.x86_64
 nvidia-settings-1.0-8.fc14.x86_64
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64
 nvidia-xconfig-1.0-5.fc14.x86_64
 akmod-nvidia-260.19.12-1.fc14.1.x86_64


I have it running using the nvidia drivers on x86_64 Fedora 14 install 
with following packages:

kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64-260.19.12-1.fc14.2.x86_64
akmod-nvidia-260.19.12-1.fc14.1.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-260.19.12-3.fc14.i686
nvidia-xconfig-1.0-5.fc14.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64
nvidia-settings-1.0-8.fc14.x86_64
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-260.19.12-3.fc14.x86_64


You are missing the xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686 package.

Craig
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Re: Init fails on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:08:43 -0500, Bill wrote:

 Heinz Diehl wrote:
  Hi,
 
  after a boot into Gnome and opening a root console,
  switching to runlevel 3 (or whatever) fails. init 3 or telinit 3
  does simply nothing, and the box begins to lock up. There's no problem to
  boot into runlevel 3 or whatever.
 
  Does anybody here encounter the same, and know a solution?
 
 The next time I'm booted on 14 I'll try that. I did try it in a VM and it 
 worked 
 back and forth between 5 and 3 multiple times.
 

init 1 in GNOME doesn't work
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/640925

Could be the wrong component (after having been reassigned), but the current
owner has yet to respond. :/

When I asked about it on test list on Oct 1st, nobody added any insight:
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2010-October/094304.html
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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 15 Nov 2010 13:52:38 +, Clive wrote:

 I just saw an email from you saying init also dumps.
 I'd seriously consider if the box is okay/check the installation.

The init/telinit issue is entirely unrelated. See my other msg, please.
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Re: Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread JD
On 11/17/2010 09:22 AM, Andrew Haley wrote:
 On 11/17/2010 05:05 PM, stan wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:30:39 -0800
 JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I tried to build mplayer from source rpm.
 mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm

 The build seems to die at the last step of linking all
 the objects to produce the binary mplayer.
 The failure is:

 /usr/bin/ld: osdep/getch2.o: undefined reference to symbol 'tgetnum'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'tgetnum' is defined in DSO /lib/libtinfo.so.5 so
 try adding it to the linker command line
 /lib/libtinfo.so.5: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
 I just successfully built mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm on
 F13 i686. I have ncurses-devel installed.

 Are you sure your /lib/libtinfo.so.5 is OK?

 Is your box 32-bit or 64-bit?

 Andrew.
As I stated in my email I have the libltinfo.so:
$ ls -l /usr/lib/libtinfo*  /lib/libtinfo*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 May 30 09:59 /lib/libtinfo.so.5 - 
libtinfo.so.5.7
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 130136 Feb  3  2010 /lib/libtinfo.so.5.7
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 23 May 30 10:29 /usr/lib/libtinfo.so - 
../../lib/libtinfo.so.5

My system is 32 bit.

I am really puzzled why it is doing this on my system :( :(
and not on others. When I do yum update, everything is up to date .



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Re: Progressively Advancing Video Regressions

2010-11-17 Thread stan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:35:44 -0500 (EST)
Philip Vetter pv+fed...@math.duke.edu wrote:

 Any ideas why I might be experiencing a progressive degradation of
 Red Hat/Fedora's out-of-the-box support for multiple monitors, and
 what I can do to get things working again?
 
Just some thoughts from my observations over time.

It isn't the kernel, because it reserves space for 16 graphics devices.
My guess is that you are a victim of obsolescence vs the developers.
They have newer hardware and specific configurations, they therefore
test with newer hardware and specific configurations, and when
regressions occur because of ongoing development, they don't notice
them.  They aren't deliberately trying to degrade your experience, but
the end result is the same.

When these things fail, you can look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log after boot,
and see why they failed.  Then open a bugzilla against either the
driver or Xorg, and work with them when or if they contact you to
resolve the issue.  Certainly not definitive, but a possible solution.

You could revert to older versions of software that supported the
configuration you want to run.  Or versions that are supported for
longer periods of time (CentOS or Scientific Linux).

You can purchase hardware similar to that of the developers. ;-)

You can become a developer or tester for the developers. :-)

In short, none of the solutions are very palatable.
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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 17.11.2010, Joe Zeff wrote: 

 I've noticed that it's almost always newcomers who use Fedora Core when 
 referring to the distro.

I used FC without thinking if this maybe could be incorrect. I just
wanted to show what distribution my mails are related to.

 It's almost as though they're trying to look 
 like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only 
 manage to look clueless.

I think it's quite silly to judge others by a simple prefix they're using,
and I can't see why it's so important how long time one has been
using Fedora...



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Re: F12 - F14 (via preupgrade), not so smooth

2010-11-17 Thread stan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:56:04 -0500
Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:

 stan wrote:

  #Fix console loglevel
  if [ -n $LOGLEVEL ]; then
 /bin/dmesg -n $LOGLEVEL
  else
 /bin/dmesg -n 3
  fi
 
 /bin/dmesg -n ${LOGLEVEL:-3}
 
That's slick.  I presume you meant 
/bin/dmesg -n ${LOGLEVEL:3}
changing the -3 to a 3?  I didn't look up the documentation, just
extrapolating.
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Re: Progressively Advancing Video Regressions

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:18:10 -0700
stan wrote:

 You can purchase hardware similar to that of the developers. ;-)

I'd go with that one if any of the developers would care
to tell us which cards they use daily on their production
systems? (Any of them fanless? I like my computers quiet).

Certainly my RV410 radeon functioned nearly perfectly
on fedora 13, and now freezes up my system if I try
to run neverputt.

My incredibly ancient R100 actually almost functioned
in fedora 12 after being totally busted for several
releases, but then went back to totally busted in fedora
13.

My not quite as old RV280 mostly works, but any attempt
to do any opengl stuff results in the brightness going
to midnight in a coal mine setting.

The closest card I have to working perfectly in fedora 14
is the RV610 on my machine at work, but it runs into
a firefox/cairo bug that shreds text that scrolls out
from under another window.

All and all, this total driver rewrite to get jello
windows to work better is looking like a complete bust
from the cost/benefit standpoint :-(.

(Yes, I have bugzillas on all these issues).
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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 22:19:19 +0100
Heinz Diehl wrote:

  It's almost as though they're trying to look 
  like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only 
  manage to look clueless.  
 
 I think it's quite silly to judge others by a simple prefix they're using,
 and I can't see why it's so important how long time one has been
 using Fedora...

For that matter:

zooty rpm -q kernel
kernel-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.x86_64
kernel-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64

Why are the rpms still named fcN instead of fN :-).
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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:38:07 -0500, Tom wrote:

 zooty rpm -q kernel
 kernel-2.6.35.6-45.fc14.x86_64
 kernel-2.6.35.6-48.fc14.x86_64
 
 Why are the rpms still named fcN instead of fN :-).

a) See the various list archives. ;)

b) Because it isn't trivial to switch from .fc14 to .f14 without
rebuilding packages also in older dists. Look!

$ rpmdev-vercmp  2.6.35.6-45.fc14  2.6.35.6-45.f14
0:2.6.35.6-45.fc14 is newer

$ rpmdev-vercmp  2.6.35.6-45.fc13  2.6.35.6-45.f14
0:2.6.35.6-45.fc13 is newer
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Re: Progressively Advancing Video Regressions

2010-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:36:19 -0500,
  Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 My not quite as old RV280 mostly works, but any attempt
 to do any opengl stuff results in the brightness going
 to midnight in a coal mine setting.

I had problems with my rv280 starting in F13 with 2.6.34 kernels. I can now
use it with nomodeset in rawhide. So I decided moving forward rather than
running an unsupported kernel was the better option.

 The closest card I have to working perfectly in fedora 14
 is the RV610 on my machine at work, but it runs into
 a firefox/cairo bug that shreds text that scrolls out
 from under another window.

I have an rv530 at work, but I don't do much game playing there. I did a couple
of very short tests to see if 3d stuff worked and didn't see any problems in
F14.
 
 All and all, this total driver rewrite to get jello
 windows to work better is looking like a complete bust
 from the cost/benefit standpoint :-(.

There are lots of changes going on, and they aren't all related to wobbly
windows.
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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/17/2010 01:19 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
 On 17.11.2010, Joe Zeff wrote:

 I've noticed that it's almost always newcomers who use Fedora Core when
 referring to the distro.

 I used FC without thinking if this maybe could be incorrect. I just
 wanted to show what distribution my mails are related to.


You both misunderstand and mis-read; I wasn't referring to people using 
FC, but as I wrote up above, using the term Fedora Core for recent 
versions.

 It's almost as though they're trying to look
 like they've been using Fedora for a lot longer than they have and only
 manage to look clueless.

 I think it's quite silly to judge others by a simple prefix they're using,
 and I can't see why it's so important how long time one has been
 using Fedora...


How long you've been using Fedora shouldn't be important, which is why 
I'm so amused by newcomers pretending to be old-timers and Getting It Wrong.
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Re: F12 - F14 (via preupgrade), not so smooth

2010-11-17 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 11/17/2010 04:22 PM, stan wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:56:04 -0500
 Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote:
 
 stan wrote:
 
 #Fix console loglevel
 if [ -n $LOGLEVEL ]; then
/bin/dmesg -n $LOGLEVEL
 else
/bin/dmesg -n 3
 fi

 /bin/dmesg -n ${LOGLEVEL:-3}
  
 That's slick.  I presume you meant 
 /bin/dmesg -n ${LOGLEVEL:3}
 changing the -3 to a 3?  I didn't look up the documentation, just
 extrapolating.

Nope.  Read the bash man page.  Particularly the section on parameter
substitution

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Re: Online source code browser

2010-11-17 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi Stan,

I think I can help simplify this a bit.

stan wrote:
 As far as I'm aware, the way to do this is to create a build tree in
 your home directory,
 rpmdev-setuptree

FWIW, this is not needed since rpm-4.6 (F10) as rpm now defaults to
using your home dir and creates these directories as needed.

 and then get the src.rpm package,
 yumdownloader --sourcepackage name
 and install it in the build tree, as a user.
 rpm -ivhpackage name
 Once this is done, move to the SPEC directory,
 cd ~/rpmbuild/SPEC
 and run the rpmbuild command to unpack everything.
 rpmbuild -bppackage name.spec
 At this point the source will be unpacked in
 ~/rpmbuild/BUILD/package name
 You can then look at it with the editor of your choice.

 Thank you for the concise description of how to do this, I'm going to
 use it (with attribution) the next time someone hits me with how do
 I... on building from source.

 You're welcome, glad it was helpful.  It probably exists on the Fedora
 wiki somewhere, though probably not so succinctly stated.  I do know the
 compile a custom kernel page has a more detailed and involved
 explanation.  I forgot to mention in the above that the patches that
 fedora applies will be in the ~/rpmbuild/SOURCE directory after
 unpacking.

On the whole, I'd avoid all of the manual work and just use fedpkg.
You can yum install it on Fedora and CentOS/RHEL.

# Clone the package, anonymously (drop the -a if you're in the fedora
# packager group).
fedpkg clone -a foo

# Change to the newly create package dir.
cd foo

# Have fedpkg download the source tarball(s) and extract it, applying
# any patches as well.
fedpkg prep

At this point, you will have the package source in a subdirectory,
typically %{name}-%{version}.  This will be the contents for rawhide.
If you wish to see a different release, use fedpkg switch-branch
prior to the fedpkg prep call (e.g. fedpkg switch-branch f14).

One nice thing (IMO) about this method is that all the patches and
source files are in one directory.  I always hated having things
spread out in rpm's default {BUILD,SOURCES,SPECS} dirs (and I setup an
~/.rpmmacros to not use that layout).

HTH,

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Re: Emacs dumps core on FC14

2010-11-17 Thread Clive Hills
I'm an genuine old-timer who gets it right.
Clive
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Re: Online source code browser

2010-11-17 Thread stan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:22:19 -0500
Todd Zullinger t...@pobox.com wrote:

 I think I can help simplify this a bit.
 
 On the whole, I'd avoid all of the manual work and just use fedpkg.
 You can yum install it on Fedora and CentOS/RHEL.
 
 # Clone the package, anonymously (drop the -a if you're in the fedora
 # packager group).
 fedpkg clone -a foo
 
 # Change to the newly create package dir.
 cd foo
 
 # Have fedpkg download the source tarball(s) and extract it, applying
 # any patches as well.
 fedpkg prep
 
 At this point, you will have the package source in a subdirectory,
 typically %{name}-%{version}.  This will be the contents for rawhide.
 If you wish to see a different release, use fedpkg switch-branch
 prior to the fedpkg prep call (e.g. fedpkg switch-branch f14).
 
 One nice thing (IMO) about this method is that all the patches and
 source files are in one directory.  I always hated having things
 spread out in rpm's default {BUILD,SOURCES,SPECS} dirs (and I setup an
 ~/.rpmmacros to not use that layout).

I saw your post earlier.  But I'd never used fedpgk and familiarity
overruled the simplicity.  However, given your explanation, it looks
very simple and direct to use.  I'll give it a try the next time I'm
investigating a package.

Thanks.
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OT: Tiny kernel patch to boost desktop performance in 2.6.38

2010-11-17 Thread Antonio Olivares
Folks,

Just thought a nice announcement about a tiny kernel patch that will enhance 
desktop linux around kernel 2.6.38

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/210966/tiny_linux_kernel_patch_delivers_huge_speed_boost.html

Will follow this closely.  Hope many here will be excited about this :)

Regards,

Antonio 


  
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Re: Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread JD
On 11/17/2010 09:05 AM, stan wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:30:39 -0800
 JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I tried to build mplayer from source rpm.
 mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm

 The build seems to die at the last step of linking all
 the objects to produce the binary mplayer.
 The failure is:

 /usr/bin/ld: osdep/getch2.o: undefined reference to symbol 'tgetnum'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'tgetnum' is defined in DSO /lib/libtinfo.so.5 so
 try adding it to the linker command line
 /lib/libtinfo.so.5: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
 I am able to build successfully mplayer on F14 x86_64 using the source
 from subversion at the mplayer website.

 When building from source, their README requires running ./configure,
 though they say that they aren't actually running the autoconf version
 but an emulation they wrote.  This discovers all the libraries and adds
 them to the linker line.

 I noticed that your linker line had no -ltinfo in it, so compiling from
 the source RPM didn't perform this step, it seems.  Maybe the
 maintainer doesn't have this library installed.  I *think* there is a
 config include that with this information, so you could add it manually
 and it should work.

 Probably a good thing to document this with a bugzilla.
Hi Stan, thanks for your input.
I took a look at the spec file, and I added to the configure command 
options:

 --extra-libs-mplayer=-ltinfo \\\

This worked as far as the compiler no longer complaining about not 
finding tgetnum.

But nevertheless, the compilation still failed during final linkload 
phase to produce
the binary mplayer:

cc -o mplayer command.o m_property.o mixer.o mp_fifo.o mplayer.o 
parser-mpcmd.o input/input.o libao2/ao_mpegpes.o libao2/ao_null.o 
libao2/ao_pcm.o libao2/audio_out.o libvo/aspect.o libvo/geometry.o 
libvo/spuenc.o libvo/video_out.o libvo/vo_mpegpes.o libvo/vo_null.o 
libvo/vo_aa.o libao2/ao_alsa.o input/appleir.o libao2/ao_arts.o 
libvo/vo_caca.o libvo/vo_dga.o libvo/vo_dxr3.o libao2/ao_esd.o 
libvo/vo_fbdev.o libvo/vo_fbdev2.o libvo/vo_gif89a.o libvo/gl_common.o 
libvo/vo_gl.o libvo/vo_gl2.o libvo/csputils.o libvo/sdl_common.o 
libvo/x11_common.o libvo/vo_matrixview.o libvo/matrixview.o gui/bitmap.o 
gui/app.o gui/cfg.o gui/interface.o gui/mplayer/gui_common.o 
gui/mplayer/menu.o gui/mplayer/mw.o gui/mplayer/pb.o gui/mplayer/play.o 
gui/mplayer/sw.o gui/mplayer/widgets.o gui/mplayer/gtk/about.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/eq.o gui/mplayer/gtk/fs.o gui/mplayer/gtk/gtk_common.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/gtk_menu.o gui/mplayer/gtk/gtk_url.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/mb.o gui/mplayer/gtk/opts.o gui/mplayer/gtk/pl.o 
gui/mplayer/gtk/sb.o gui/skin/cut.o gui/skin/font.o gui/skin/skin.o 
gui/wm/ws.o gui/wm/wsxdnd.o libao2/ao_jack.o input/joystick.o 
libvo/vo_jpeg.o libvo/vo_png.o libmenu/menu.o libmenu/menu_chapsel.o 
libmenu/menu_cmdlist.o libmenu/menu_console.o libmenu/menu_filesel.o 
libmenu/menu_list.o libmenu/menu_param.o libmenu/menu_pt.o 
libmenu/menu_txt.o libmenu/vf_menu.o libmenu/menu_dvbin.o input/lirc.o 
libvo/vo_md5sum.o libao2/ao_openal.o libao2/ao_oss.o libvo/vo_pnm.o 
libao2/ao_pulse.o libao2/ao_sdl.o libvo/vo_sdl.o libvo/vo_svga.o 
libvo/vo_tga.o libvo/vo_v4l2.o libao2/ao_v4l2.o libvo/vo_vdpau.o 
libvo/vo_cvidix.o libvo/vosub_vidix.o vidix/vidix.o vidix/drivers.o 
vidix/dha.o vidix/mtrr.o vidix/pci.o vidix/pci_names.o 
vidix/pci_dev_ids.o vidix/cyberblade_vid.o vidix/mach64_vid.o 
vidix/mga_vid.o vidix/mga_crtc2_vid.o vidix/nvidia_vid.o vidix/pm2_vid.o 
vidix/pm3_vid.o vidix/radeon_vid.o vidix/rage128_vid.o vidix/s3_vid.o 
vidix/sis_vid.o vidix/sis_bridge.o vidix/unichrome_vid.o libvo/vo_x11.o 
libvo/vo_xover.o libvo/vo_xv.o libvo/vo_xvidix.o libvo/vo_xvmc.o 
libvo/vo_yuv4mpeg.o asxparser.o codec-cfg.o cpudetect.o edl.o find_sub.o 
fmt-conversion.o m_config.o m_option.o m_struct.o mp_msg.o mpcommon.o 
parser-cfg.o path.o playtree.o playtreeparser.o spudec.o sub_cc.o 
subopt-helper.o subreader.o vobsub.o libaf/af.o libaf/af_center.o 
libaf/af_channels.o libaf/af_comp.o libaf/af_delay.o libaf/af_dummy.o 
libaf/af_equalizer.o libaf/af_extrastereo.o libaf/af_format.o 
libaf/af_gate.o libaf/af_hrtf.o libaf/af_karaoke.o libaf/af_pan.o 
libaf/af_resample.o libaf/af_scaletempo.o libaf/af_sinesuppress.o 
libaf/af_stats.o libaf/af_sub.o libaf/af_surround.o libaf/af_sweep.o 
libaf/af_tools.o libaf/af_volnorm.o libaf/af_volume.o libaf/filter.o 
libaf/format.o libaf/reorder_ch.o libaf/window.o libmpcodecs/ad.o 
libmpcodecs/ad_alaw.o libmpcodecs/ad_dk3adpcm.o libmpcodecs/ad_dvdpcm.o 
libmpcodecs/ad_hwac3.o libmpcodecs/ad_hwmpa.o libmpcodecs/ad_imaadpcm.o 
libmpcodecs/ad_msadpcm.o libmpcodecs/ad_msgsm.o libmpcodecs/ad_pcm.o 
libmpcodecs/dec_audio.o libmpcodecs/dec_teletext.o 
libmpcodecs/dec_video.o libmpcodecs/img_format.o libmpcodecs/mp_image.o 
libmpcodecs/native/xa_gsm.o libmpcodecs/pullup.o libmpcodecs/vd.o 
libmpcodecs/vd_hmblck.o libmpcodecs/vd_lzo.o libmpcodecs/vd_mpegpes.o 
libmpcodecs/vd_mtga.o libmpcodecs/vd_null.o libmpcodecs/vd_raw.o 

Re: OT: Tiny kernel patch to boost desktop performance in 2.6.38

2010-11-17 Thread Michael Cronenworth
Antonio Olivares wrote:
 Just thought a nice announcement about a tiny kernel patch that will enhance 
 desktop linux around kernel 2.6.38

 http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/210966/tiny_linux_kernel_patch_delivers_huge_speed_boost.html

You may want to follow what's been happening[1] on the devel list. :)


 Will follow this closely.  Hope many here will be excited about this:)

While I am excited about it, in my own testing I did not notice any 
improvement. I tested opening a large (5000x5000) JPEG in Firefox and 
running a 3D game. The 3D game becomes choppy while the JPEG image loads 
with or without the wonder patch. Now, this may be a bottleneck outside 
of the kernel, but I do not have a slouch of a system (F14, quad-core 
3ghz w/ 4gigs ram).

[1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/devel/2010-November/145594.html
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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Phil Meyer
On 11/17/2010 12:40 PM, Alan J. Gagne wrote:
 Jerry Feldman wrote:
 On 11/17/2010 11:36 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Just a in my experience note, running an upgrade from a DVD/USB has been 
 far
 more successful than preupgrade for me. Older installs had a small /boot 
 and
 often don't work well due to lack of room. YMMV.
 When I installed F13 from DVD, I specifically allocated a larger /boot
 for this specific reason. My /boot is 485MB.

 If preupgrade runs in that I'd love to know how much stuff it installs. And
 doesn't change my feelings about the inherent complexity of doing an in-place
 upgrade on a running system.
 On three machines I just upgraded to F14 from F13 they have 300MB /boot.
 I took all three down to just the running kernel prior to using
 preupgrade. Just before the reboot to the actual upgrade it reports I
 have 60MB left on /boot and need 26MB for the kernel. I think next time
 around I will need to do fresh installs so I can resize my /boot.

 Alan

We have noticed a couple times that if /boot is very full BEFORE 
preupgrade downloads anything, it will prompt to do a network based 
preupgrade which works well.

We are now planning to always slam junk into /boot before running 
preupgrade :)

The networked version should ALWAYS show as an option, in my opinion.

Good Luck!


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help with a preupgrade glitch?

2010-11-17 Thread Dave Stevens
I'm most of the way through preupgrading from F13 to F14 but am  
getting an error retrieving  
/pub/systems/linux/redhat/fedora/linux/releases/14/Fedora/x86_64/os/images/install.img
 from ftp.nrc.ca. The specific message is unable to retrieve the file. I've 
ftp'd from another machine and can confirm that the file exists. All the other 
.img files seem to have been retrieved from there without incident. Any hints? 
Other URLs I can  
use?

dave


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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 16:13:15 -0700
Phil Meyer wrote:

 We have noticed a couple times that if /boot is very full BEFORE 
 preupgrade downloads anything, it will prompt to do a network based 
 preupgrade which works well.

Just for curiosity, why have a separate /boot partition at all?
I always just make a single / partition, install everything on it
and never run out of space in /boot or /home because it is all the
same chunk of space.
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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/18/2010 07:19 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:
 Just for curiosity, why have a separate /boot partition at all?
 I always just make a single / partition, install everything on it
 and never run out of space in /boot or /home because it is all the
 same chunk of space.
So, you always do upgrades and never complete installs?  What happens if
it becomes necessary to do a complete install?  Wouldn't you want to
have a separate /home so you wouldn't have to back it up?

There are certainly other reasons for multiple partitions.  The above is
just one.

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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Andras Simon
On 11/18/10, Phil Meyer pme...@themeyerfarm.com wrote:

 We have noticed a couple times that if /boot is very full BEFORE
 preupgrade downloads anything, it will prompt to do a network based
 preupgrade which works well.

 We are now planning to always slam junk into /boot before running
 preupgrade :)

 The networked version should ALWAYS show as an option, in my opinion.

Isn't this the trick that is described here:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PreUpgrade#Method_2:_Trick_preupgrade_into_downloading_the_installer

I wonder how much space is needed on /boot if one goes down this path.
What goes into /boot in a network based preupgrade?

Andras
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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 07:33:37 +0800
Ed Greshko wrote:

 So, you always do upgrades and never complete installs?  What happens if
 it becomes necessary to do a complete install?  Wouldn't you want to
 have a separate /home so you wouldn't have to back it up?
 
 There are certainly other reasons for multiple partitions.  The above is
 just one.

Actually I do have a separate /home (sort of), but I always install
new with /home and /boot being part of root. When I'm satisfied
the new version is usable, I bind mount /home from a subdirectory
on my 2nd disk drive (also one giant partition so space gets
equally shared).

But even if you want /home separate, having /boot separate always
seems to cause nothing but trouble. If you aren't encrypting root
or using a filesystem grub doesn't understand, I can't imagine
any good reason to make /boot separate.
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Re: One satisfied customer with f14!

2010-11-17 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 19:30:03 -0500,
  Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 But even if you want /home separate, having /boot separate always
 seems to cause nothing but trouble. If you aren't encrypting root
 or using a filesystem grub doesn't understand, I can't imagine
 any good reason to make /boot separate.

BIOS limitations is another issue that can affect some people.
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Re: Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread stan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:06:40 -0800
JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Stan, thanks for your input.
 I took a look at the spec file, and I added to the configure command 
 options:
 
  --extra-libs-mplayer=-ltinfo \\\
 
 This worked as far as the compiler no longer complaining about not 
 finding tgetnum.
 
 But nevertheless, the compilation still failed during final linkload 
 phase to produce
 the binary mplayer:
 
  snip
 
 I have the packages that are relevant to his failure:
 
 jack-audio-connection-kit-0.118.0-1.fc13.i686
 jack-audio-connection-kit-devel-0.118.0-1.fc13.i686
 openal-soft-1.12.854-1.fc13.i686
 libnemesi-0.6.9-0.1.20090422git.fc12.i686(yum update is not 
 finding a fedora 13 update for this lib)
 libnemesi-devel-0.6.9-0.1.20090422git.fc12.i686
 
 
How are you compiling?  
The way I do it to create the RPM is to cd into the ~/rpmbuild/SPEC
directory and run the command
rpmbuild -bb mplayer.spec
I downloaded the source using yumdownloader (fedpkg didn't work, I
suspect because this is an RPMFUsion package), and installed it.  When
I ran the rpmbuild command above, it gave me a list of dependencies
that weren't met.  I'm currently installing them. I'll see how things
go once they are all there.
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Re: Building mplayer problems

2010-11-17 Thread stan
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 17:35:21 -0700
stan gr...@q.com wrote:

 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 15:06:40 -0800
 JD jd1...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi Stan, thanks for your input.
  I took a look at the spec file, and I added to the configure
  command options:
  
   --extra-libs-mplayer=-ltinfo \\\
  
  This worked as far as the compiler no longer complaining about not 
  finding tgetnum.
  
  But nevertheless, the compilation still failed during final
  linkload phase to produce
  the binary mplayer:
  
   snip
  
  I have the packages that are relevant to his failure:
  
  jack-audio-connection-kit-0.118.0-1.fc13.i686
  jack-audio-connection-kit-devel-0.118.0-1.fc13.i686
  openal-soft-1.12.854-1.fc13.i686
  libnemesi-0.6.9-0.1.20090422git.fc12.i686(yum update is not 
  finding a fedora 13 update for this lib)
  libnemesi-devel-0.6.9-0.1.20090422git.fc12.i686
  
  
 How are you compiling?  
 The way I do it to create the RPM is to cd into the ~/rpmbuild/SPEC
 directory and run the command
 rpmbuild -bb mplayer.spec
 I downloaded the source using yumdownloader (fedpkg didn't work, I
 suspect because this is an RPMFUsion package), and installed it.  When
 I ran the rpmbuild command above, it gave me a list of dependencies
 that weren't met.  I'm currently installing them. I'll see how things
 go once they are all there.

The build of all the RPMs completed successfully once the dependencies
were installed.  

mencoder-1.0-0.119.20100703svn.fc14.x86_64.rpm
mplayer-1.0-0.119.20100703svn.fc14.x86_64.rpm
mplayer-common-1.0-0.119.20100703svn.fc14.x86_64.rpm
mplayer-debuginfo-1.0-0.119.20100703svn.fc14.x86_64.rpm
mplayer-doc-1.0-0.119.20100703svn.fc14.x86_64.rpm
mplayer-gui-1.0-0.119.20100703svn.fc14.x86_64.rpm
mplayer-tools-1.0-0.119.20100703svn.fc14.x86_64.rpm
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Re: Building mplayer problems : solved

2010-11-17 Thread JD
On 11/17/2010 09:05 AM, stan wrote:
 On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 08:30:39 -0800
 JDjd1...@gmail.com  wrote:

 I tried to build mplayer from source rpm.
 mplayer-1.0-0.117.20100703svn.fc13.src.rpm

 The build seems to die at the last step of linking all
 the objects to produce the binary mplayer.
 The failure is:

 /usr/bin/ld: osdep/getch2.o: undefined reference to symbol 'tgetnum'
 /usr/bin/ld: note: 'tgetnum' is defined in DSO /lib/libtinfo.so.5 so
 try adding it to the linker command line
 /lib/libtinfo.so.5: could not read symbols: Invalid operation
 I am able to build successfully mplayer on F14 x86_64 using the source
 from subversion at the mplayer website.

 When building from source, their README requires running ./configure,
 though they say that they aren't actually running the autoconf version
 but an emulation they wrote.  This discovers all the libraries and adds
 them to the linker line.

 I noticed that your linker line had no -ltinfo in it, so compiling from
 the source RPM didn't perform this step, it seems.  Maybe the
 maintainer doesn't have this library installed.  I *think* there is a
 config include that with this information, so you could add it manually
 and it should work.

 Probably a good thing to document this with a bugzilla.
Hi Stan,
Turns out problem was not in the mplayer source code, but
in my rpmbuild command options.
Once I issued the correct --with args (for the libs I wanted enabled
that are not normally enabled in the released rpm), all went well.
My apologies for the noise!


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Burning mixed permission files to disk problem?

2010-11-17 Thread William Case
Hi;

I started out to do something I though should be fairly easy but I have
been at it all evening.

I am trying to burn some data files to DVD as a backup.  Here is the
problem as far as I can tell.  Brasero from root won't burn the files
directly but wants to turn them into an .iso.

Details:
I have a backup partition on which I keep my personal backups as well as
files and directories owned by root such as /etc.  I was getting ready
to upgrade to Fedora 14.  I decided that there was only some of my
backup files I wanted to further back up to a DVD disk. The total size
fits on one disk. Brasero will back up personal files but won't back up
root's files.  If I su or sudo brasero and try it from there, brasero
wants to create /root/brasero.iso.  Same happens with the other command
line burny-thingy-automatic program that goes with Nautilus. (I can
never remember it's name).

The manual is silent on why root and user files won't mix or on how to
burn root files.  Plus several annoying things happen with unwanted
programs popping up when using brasero and inserting discs.

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Fedora 13, Gnome 2.30.2
Evo.2.20.2, Emacs 23.2.1

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too-persistent dmraid metadata

2010-11-17 Thread DJ Delorie

Anyone else have raid metadata that dmraid -rE can't keep away?  I
can remove the metadata, it's gone from the drive, but after the next
reboot it's back.  This is a drive on a highpoint RocketRaid 1820a
card, although I only use it in JBOD mode.  This is happening on one
of seven otherwise identical drives (four of which have been in use
with Fedora 10 for years) so I don't suspect Fedora is doing it.
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Re: FC14 good/bad news

2010-11-17 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 11/17/2010 08:33 AM, Bill Davidsen wrote:
 Now I can select enhanced effects for video, and they work fine (for values of
 fine considering I wanted to see if they work, not that I want them on).
 However, the display is still dog slow, glxgears runs at 60fps, video is 
 jerky,
 etc. So the better video now doesn't crash, does provide effects I don't 
 need,
 and is still too slow to be useful, even on a non-game machine. So much for 
 not
 using vendor drivers.

Examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log.  Make sure it's loading the radeon 
driver.  If you don't feel comfortable interpreting the file, post it 
somewhere that others can see it.

I don't have an R700 based card, so I don't know too much about their 
support level.  The F13 release notes indicated that 3D support for that 
chipset had been added.  I'd expect F14 to have somewhat improved drivers...
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