Re: Email problem, evolution asking for unknow password
On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Vincent vone...@verizon.net wrote: Hello, I just switched to F15, I had every thing working OK then the log in on boot up stop appearing, then when I try to log in to evolution the message appeared: Enter password to unlock your login keyring the login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into the computer I entered the user password didn't accept, I try the root PW didn't accept then I cancel several times and eventually allowed me to get the email. by the way the user PW is still good because I used after I left the computer unused for while. Any idea? Also what is the intended way to shutdown without going to the terminal ant type shutdown? I will appreciate help, thank you Vinny P.S. I can't send email ether. It requires that not know PW evolution looks for password to unlock default keyring, where it (and most Gnome apps) store passwords. Usually, on fresh installation, when some application tries to store password for the first time, it asks you to create password for default keyring. You can try running keyring manager (seahorse in command line) to see if keyring was created. If it exists and you don't know password for it, you can delete it (you will lose any saved passwords, of course) and it should be recreated when evolution tries to save password again. To shutdown, click your user name in right top corner of the screen, then hold 'Alt' button. Suspend menu item will change to shutdown. There are some extensions that make shutdown menu item permanently visible, just search this archive for it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Timeout for service shutdown in legacy services
Hi, When systemd tries to shutdown a service, after a certain timeout, it just kills all the processes belonging to this service. There is a configuration option that allows to change that timeout. However, it is available only for the new systemd formatI and not for the legacy (i.e. /etc/init.d/*) services. The full story goes like this: transmission-daemon has an uncharacteristically long shutdown time. Every time the service goes down, systemd thinks that it is unresponsive and kills it. It messes up the metadata of the seeding (i.e. fully downloaded) torrents and when I bring the daemon back up, it thinks that it needs to re-download a torrent, even though the actual data is there. I have to manually select Verify the local data every time I start the daemon and it is incredibly annoying. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling gnome-shell, gdm, etc?
On 06/04/2011 07:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Users do something like yum remove evolution\* and then get a huge list of dependencies and wonder why. Common mistake. No, all I did was this: yum remove evolution I was glad I didn't use -y when I saw the huge list of other things it was going to take out with it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling gnome-shell, gdm, etc?
On 06/05/2011 12:33 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/04/2011 07:49 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Users do something like yum remove evolution\* and then get a huge list of dependencies and wonder why. Common mistake. No, all I did was this: yum remove evolution I was glad I didn't use -y when I saw the huge list of other things it was going to take out with it. Post the output. Let's see it Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
What did I do wrong?
I know its frowned upon to complain about not getting responses on forums but I am mystified that I didn't get a single response to my post below. I have a degree of visual impairment but I cannot believe that I am the only potential user of Gnome 3 who would like an answer. So I resorted to classical marketing techniques to get this post read by a few people and I will get responses, some of which may be kind I only want a yes or no answer!! F15, Gnome 3 and Mouse Pointer Size Is there a way of increasing the pointer size, an option that is in Gnome2? I have googled away but cannot find any reference to such an option. Either I have missed something simple or the option has been removed. David -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15, Gnome 3 and Mouse Pointer Size
On 2 June 2011 02:56, david grant d...@david-grant.com wrote: Is there a way of increasing the pointer size, an option that is in Gnome2? I have googled away but cannot find any reference to such an option. Either I have missed something simple or the option has been removed. Have you investigated gnome-tweak-tool? - I believe it can change the cursor theme # yum install gnome-tweak-tool Applications - Accessories - Tweak Advanced Settings - Interface - Cursor Theme Of course you will need to find a cursor theme with a larger cursor though! -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Mounting issues
Hey guys, alright, I have the following issue: I was experimenting with mounting SMB shares on my machine lately, and mounted a remote share to a local folder (no special commands passed, just a standard mount). What I did not know was that mount seems to remove all files resident in the mount-folder prior to the mount. My question is: is there any way to get the files I had in the folder prior to the mount back? Or will I have to use a recovery tool? If so, which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance! Chris -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15, Gnome 3 and Mouse Pointer Size
On 06/05/2011 10:38 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 2 June 2011 02:56, david grantd...@david-grant.com wrote: Is there a way of increasing the pointer size, an option that is in Gnome2? I have googled away but cannot find any reference to such an option. Either I have missed something simple or the option has been removed. Have you investigated gnome-tweak-tool? - I believe it can change the cursor theme # yum install gnome-tweak-tool Applications - Accessories - Tweak Advanced Settings - Interface - Cursor Theme Of course you will need to find a cursor theme with a larger cursor though! Hi Sam, did you really mean gnome-tweak-tool? It has no such menus as you described. The submenus I found were: Fonts, File Manager, Interface, Shell and Windows :-) -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mounting issues
Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanef...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, alright, I have the following issue: I was experimenting with mounting SMB shares on my machine lately, and mounted a remote share to a local folder (no special commands passed, just a standard mount). What I did not know was that mount seems to remove all files resident in the mount-folder prior to the mount. My question is: is there any way to get the files I had in the folder prior to the mount back? Or will I have to use a recovery tool? If so, which one would you recommend? Unmount and you'll see the files are still there. -- Sent from my Android tablet with K-9 Mail. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mounting issues
On 05/06/11 10:27, Christopher Svanefalk wrote: Hey guys, alright, I have the following issue: I was experimenting with mounting SMB shares on my machine lately, and mounted a remote share to a local folder (no special commands passed, just a standard mount). What I did not know was that mount seems to remove all files resident in the mount-folder prior to the mount. My question is: is there any way to get the files I had in the folder prior to the mount back? Or will I have to use a recovery tool? If so, which one would you recommend? Thanks in advance! Chris Chris, I thing you'll find that when you mount a directory to another location, you don't actually lose what was originally there, but effectively hide it. Hence it is best to mount to an empty directory. HTH cpp4ever -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mounting issues
On 5 June 2011 19:27, Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanef...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, alright, I have the following issue: I was experimenting with mounting SMB shares on my machine lately, and mounted a remote share to a local folder (no special commands passed, just a standard mount). What I did not know was that mount seems to remove all files resident in the mount-folder prior to the mount. My question is: is there any way to get the files I had in the folder prior to the mount back? Or will I have to use a recovery tool? If so, which one would you recommend? The usual behaviour of a mountpoint is that the previous contents if any become invisible during the mount, and become visible again when you unmount. I'm not sure about SMB though. Did you try umount yet? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What did I do wrong?
On 5 June 2011 09:16, david grant d...@david-grant.com wrote: I know its frowned upon to complain about not getting responses on forums but I am mystified that I didn't get a single response to my post below. I have a degree of visual impairment but I cannot believe that I am the only potential user of Gnome 3 who would like an answer. So I resorted to classical marketing techniques to get this post read by a few people and I will get responses, some of which may be kind I only want a yes or no answer!! Generally I've found when my posts go unanswered it's because no-one has an idea. Maybe ask at the Gnome list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ? -- imalone -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mounting issues
You are all right, I had to reboot my system due to a crash, but after that I could see everything again. Thanks! On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, David bouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 June 2011 19:27, Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanef...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, alright, I have the following issue: I was experimenting with mounting SMB shares on my machine lately, and mounted a remote share to a local folder (no special commands passed, just a standard mount). What I did not know was that mount seems to remove all files resident in the mount-folder prior to the mount. My question is: is there any way to get the files I had in the folder prior to the mount back? Or will I have to use a recovery tool? If so, which one would you recommend? The usual behaviour of a mountpoint is that the previous contents if any become invisible during the mount, and become visible again when you unmount. I'm not sure about SMB though. Did you try umount yet? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Mounting issues
in other words: it would appear that the files never dissapeared, and that an unmount reverted the visibility of the folder to what was there before. Quite a relief! Thanks again :) On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanef...@gmail.com wrote: You are all right, I had to reboot my system due to a crash, but after that I could see everything again. Thanks! On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 11:56 AM, David bouncingc...@gmail.com wrote: On 5 June 2011 19:27, Christopher Svanefalk christopher.svanef...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, alright, I have the following issue: I was experimenting with mounting SMB shares on my machine lately, and mounted a remote share to a local folder (no special commands passed, just a standard mount). What I did not know was that mount seems to remove all files resident in the mount-folder prior to the mount. My question is: is there any way to get the files I had in the folder prior to the mount back? Or will I have to use a recovery tool? If so, which one would you recommend? The usual behaviour of a mountpoint is that the previous contents if any become invisible during the mount, and become visible again when you unmount. I'm not sure about SMB though. Did you try umount yet? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
What's with systemd?
Hello all, I have just upgraded my F13 machine to F15. This acts as a server, providing mail and web etc. (only 3 users - it's for me and my family). I have tried very hard to understand how systemd works but I'm just not there yet. I was OK with init scripts and chkconfig, but now when I try to start a service I often get a cheery OK on the terminal, but in fact the service has failed completely. Even if I get a Failed message I can't find anywhere the reason why the startup failed. I have resorted to starting the offending application by typing the name of the binary into a terminal to see what messages it provides... Anyway... Rant over... The real problem I have is that after a reboot, several key services fail to start. The crucial ones (for me) are sendmail and dovecot. There are no messages in any logs (that I can find), but my mailchain just isn't working. I start them manually, and then all is well. I can't understand why (especially sendmail) fails to start after a reboot. Any ideas? Thanks in advance... Mark # chkconfig dovecot --list Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include native systemd services. SysV configuration data might be overridden by native systemd configuration. # chkconfig sendmail --list Note: This output shows SysV services only and does not include native systemd services. SysV configuration data might be overridden by native systemd configuration. sendmail0:off 1:off 2:on3:on4:on5:on6:off signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Four Tweaks for Gnome 3
On 3 June 2011 14:31, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 02:04:17PM +0100, Ian Malone wrote: On 3 June 2011 13:19, Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 07:57:18AM -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: On 06/03/2011 05:39 AM, Olav Vitters wrote: ings. Seems the rest of your email is not about extensions anymore. I think it would have been better as a new thread as it seems unrelated to the distribution of extensions. Probably, I'd been meaning to write it down at some point and after the first couple decided if I didn't put it here I'd probably never get around to it. Still planning to post them over at the gnome lists at some point. 7. Multiple entry points into the same limited configuration menu. This annoys me whenever I run into it. Used to be the case in older distros, I think Mandriva had something like it, late RH / early Fedora maybe. The KDE on the oldish Slackware I run at work. Essentially there are lots of ways to get into a configuration menu, which turns out to be the same one. So if trying to change settings you spend lots of time trying to find an configuration editor to change something (see 1#, #2) and then it turns out to start the same application that didn't do what you wanted the last time. F12/F13 finally had some quite powerful and useful configuration tools. Could you expand on this? I think it is better if you can find your setting right? Probably more a fedora problem, it seems like a lot of configuration tools are gone. So in the case where you're trying to adjust something you look for the tool that will do it. You open it and get to some aspect of the settings manager, which isn't what you want, so you close it and try again. Go through several iterations of this and arrive at the settings manager from different directions. And I mean system rather than desktop configuration here. I think most of these problems could be solved if someone broke into Gnome HQ and confiscated all their touchpad PCs. There is no HQ and it is just a random collection of people whom all have their own thoughts and ideas. Feel free to help/assist. I could maybe have done with a smiley there. -- imalone -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Partition does not end on cylinder boundary
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:50:12 +0100 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Does this matter? If so, what can you do about it? I get it after partitioning with fdisk, choosing partitions of size 50GB, etc. Is it really better to give the block count? Traditional boot loader stuff and BIOS depends on cylinder counts but modern systems don't really care so it's no longer that important. It's probably a good idea to keep any bootable partition cylinder aligned just in case. Incidentally, I notice that lshal takes a block as 512B, while fdisk has 1kB blocks. The physical block size of a traditional hard disk is 512 bytes and each block is fixed that size. The block size used by ext2/3 is usually 1K or 4K and maps to a set of adjacent hard disk blocks. Various tools report 1K blocks. In truth it's even more complicated than that nowdays Firstly - drives haven't truely had a heads/cylinders/sectors geometry model for years, they fake a geometry for compatibility with old OS. Seocndly the physical block size of many modern drives is 4K or so and they fake 512 byte sectors. The OS partitioning tools also try to align things on the boundary of a 'real' sector so that a 4K linux ext3 block maps to a real 4K disk block in order to get the best performance. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
was :What did I do wrong? -----
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:13 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: On 5 June 2011 09:16, david grant d...@david-grant.com wrote: I know its frowned upon to complain about not getting responses on forums but I am mystified that I didn't get a single response to my post below. I have a degree of visual impairment but I cannot believe that I am the only potential user of Gnome 3 who would like an answer. So I resorted to classical marketing techniques to get this post read by a few people and I will get responses, some of which may be kind I only want a yes or no answer!! Generally I've found when my posts go unanswered it's because no-one has an idea. Maybe ask at the Gnome list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ? -- imalone You did nothing wrong. If no one has an reply then you get none. I found, with Fedora 14 if you go to: systempreferencesappearancethemecustomisepointer there is an option to make the pointer different sizes. It's the same sort of thing in Ubuntu 11.04 which has the unity interface. I have no idea if this is helpful. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
LibreOffice and Evolution will not print
I am still laboring over the fact that LibreOffice and Evolution and gedit will not allow me to print. If it was just one of them I would not be as concern because I believe it would be fixed eventually. When important places of use are not performing that's a problem. Still patiently waiting for a answer or better a solution. -- Lawrence E Graves lgra...@risingstarmbc.com All things are workable but not all things work. Prov. 3:56 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling gnome-shell, gdm, etc?
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 19:16:05 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: As an example, try removing evolution Actually, I have no problem removing evolution, it is evolution-data-server that takes the rest of the system with it :-). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LibreOffice and Evolution will not print
Lawrence E Graves lgra...@risingstarmbc.com wrote: I am still laboring over the fact that LibreOffice and Evolution and gedit will not allow me to print. If it was just one of them I would not be as concern because I believe it would be fixed eventually. When important places of use are not performing that's a problem. Still patiently waiting for a answer or better a solution. You posted this question a few days ago. I and at least one other asked you questions. You did not answer them. What are you expecting? -- Sent from my Android tablet with K-9 Mail. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Does gnome3 network config support wpad
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 11:08 -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Always having Firefox start in offline mode is annoying Just on that issue, Firefox has an option not to check with NetworkManager. Just browse about:config and type networkmanager into the filter gadget, to find it. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Vmware Workstation on Fedora 15
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 18:37 -0700, Michael Eager wrote: On 06/04/2011 12:33 PM, Mark C. Allman wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 09:19 -0700, Michael Eager wrote: Has anyone been able to install VM Workstation 6.5 on Fedora 15? -- Michael Eager ea...@eagercon.com 1960 Park Blvd., Palo Alto, CA 94306 650-325-8077 FWIW,I have VMware 7.1.4 build-385536 running. No issues. Thanks. Guess it's time to buy the upgrade. If you don't explicitly need workstation you could use VMplayer, which I think is free. I've been using vmware workstation since somewhere in their version 4 or 3 releases so I keep it up to date. Sometimes there are issues but the smart folks on this list usually either know what to do or can make suggestions on what to try. -- Mark C. Allman, PMP, CSM Allman Professional Consulting, Inc. First Vice-President, Ocean State PMI www.allmanpc.com, 617-947-4263 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: was :What did I do wrong? -----
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 11:50:55 +1000 Roger are...@bigpond.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:13 +0100, Ian Malone wrote: On 5 June 2011 09:16, david grant d...@david-grant.com wrote: I know its frowned upon to complain about not getting responses on forums but I am mystified that I didn't get a single response to my post below. I have a degree of visual impairment but I cannot believe that I am the only potential user of Gnome 3 who would like an answer. So I resorted to classical marketing techniques to get this post read by a few people and I will get responses, some of which may be kind I only want a yes or no answer!! Generally I've found when my posts go unanswered it's because no-one has an idea. Maybe ask at the Gnome list http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ? -- imalone You did nothing wrong. If no one has an reply then you get none. I found, with Fedora 14 if you go to: systempreferencesappearancethemecustomisepointer there is an option to make the pointer different sizes. It's the same sort of thing in Ubuntu 11.04 which has the unity interface. I have no idea if this is helpful. Roger I could enlarge curser as follows: install gconf-editor and start it Go to desktop gnome peripherals mouse Then choose cursor_size click and change size to your wishes I chose 50 enlarging it by factor 2 success Henk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LibreOffice and Evolution will not print
Ed Greshko wrote to Lawrence E Graves: You posted this question a few days ago. I and at least one other asked you questions. You did not answer them. What are you expecting? When I see things like that, two things spring immediately to mind: 1. They're hoping for a different answer (whether or not that's likely). 2. They're not reading the list, hoping that someone will reply to them, directly. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re :What did I do wrong? -----
You did nothing wrong. If no one has an reply then you get none. I second that; I recommend trying on other fora too (fedoraforum springs to mind). I've also asked questions to which I didn't get an answer. The option for F14 doesn't work any more. I came across this: http://www.spinics.net/linux/fedora/fedora-users/msg397345.html - but it seems you have to make your own first. :) Maybe a bit of patience is required till someone does that for you too. -- Greetz, Roelof Kusters aka Ben The internet isn't a highway, it's a swamp: the more you surf, the more it draws you in. Make 1000 euros in minutes! Sell my house: http://www.bentrein.com/house -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What's with systemd?
On 06/05/2011 06:35 AM, Arthur Dent wrote: I have tried very hard to understand how systemd works but I'm just not there yet. Hi, I haven't used it yet. Check out this link (from the main systemd author) which has plenty of information: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-docs.html Regards, Jorge -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LibreOffice and Evolution will not print
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 22:14 +0930, Tim wrote: Ed Greshko wrote to Lawrence E Graves: You posted this question a few days ago. I and at least one other asked you questions. You did not answer them. What are you expecting? When I see things like that, two things spring immediately to mind: 1. They're hoping for a different answer (whether or not that's likely). 2. They're not reading the list, hoping that someone will reply to them, directly. Another possibility is, with the volume of activity on this list, that perhaps they missed a reply. I know that, even with the threading and filtering available in Evolution, I generally have to be very vigilant about not missing a reply to a question or issue that I bring up here. It's easy to miss something. Cheers, Chris -- A tax loophole is something that benefits the other guy. If it benefits you, it is tax reform. --Russell B. Long, U.S. senator -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: No Minimize Button
On 6/5/2011 1:52 AM, users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org wrote: It was a design decision in Gnome 3 (aka Gnome Shell) that involves some controversy. There are many many threads filled with lots of debate about it. If you want to know more, mine the mailing list archives. There are substitute methods to work with the desktop that require some adaptation of your work-flow (dragging windows the the edges of the screen, using overview mode with the hot corner, abandoning a desktop background with stuff on it). But the long and short of it is, if you want the buttons (and more) back, just install gnome-tweak-tool and pick the right options to re-enable them. /Mike Thank you. It worked well. I've been using the list archives for almost all my troubleshooting. I am very interested in seeing that discussion, but I have not been able to find it yet. Still looking. From my perspective I can't imagine anybody thinking that is a good idea. http://marc.info/?l=fedora-listw=4r=2s=Gnome+3q=b Mike -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
KVM/qemu USB pass-through not working for Win7 guest
Hy there I'm running a KVM/qemu virtual machine with Win7 as a guest and need a USB device (Smartcard reader w/ PIN pad) to be passed through into that virtual machine. Therefore I use the -device usb-host, hostbus=X, hostaddr=Y, id=hostdev0 command line parameter. However, the device does not show up in the Win7 guest, but does appear when do the same with a Linux guest system (which doesn't make much sense to me since KVM should be a full-virtualized system). Any ideas on how to solve this? The host system is a Xeon W3680 running F15 64-bit: kernel.x86_64 (2.6.38.6-27.fc15) qemu.x86_64 (0.14.0-7.fc15) libvirt.x86_64 (0.8.8-4.fc15) virt-manager.noarch (0.8.7-4.fc15) Thanks in advance! Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: logwatch Mail Not Delivered
On Wednesday, June 01, 2011 08:20:23 Garry T. Williams wrote: I noticed that logwatch mail stopped on my F15 system recently. The problem was that some update turned off sendmail. The mail was being generated, but could not be delivered because nothing was listening on the mail port at localhost. The fix is: sudo systemctl start sendmail.service sudo systemctl enable sendmail.service I'm wondering why this service was turned off? This may be a systemd bug. Enabling sendmail.service is ineffective after a reboot. I still have to manually start this service after boot. -- Garry Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Partition does not end on cylinder boundary
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:50:12 +0100 Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Does this matter? If so, what can you do about it? I get it after partitioning with fdisk, choosing partitions of size 50GB, etc. Is it really better to give the block count? Traditional boot loader stuff and BIOS depends on cylinder counts but modern systems don't really care so it's no longer that important. It's probably a good idea to keep any bootable partition cylinder aligned just in case. Incidentally, I notice that lshal takes a block as 512B, while fdisk has 1kB blocks. The physical block size of a traditional hard disk is 512 bytes and each block is fixed that size. The block size used by ext2/3 is usually 1K or 4K and maps to a set of adjacent hard disk blocks. Various tools report 1K blocks. In truth it's even more complicated than that nowdays Firstly - drives haven't truely had a heads/cylinders/sectors geometry model for years, they fake a geometry for compatibility with old OS. Seocndly the physical block size of many modern drives is 4K or so and they fake 512 byte sectors. The OS partitioning tools also try to align things on the boundary of a 'real' sector so that a 4K linux ext3 block maps to a real 4K disk block in order to get the best performance. would you say then, that best practise would be to let anaconda create the /boot, / and other partitions? fdisk wouldn't align properly right? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What's with systemd?
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 06:35:37 Arthur Dent wrote: The real problem I have is that after a reboot, several key services fail to start. The crucial ones (for me) are sendmail and dovecot. There are no messages in any logs (that I can find), but my mailchain just isn't working. I have encountered the same problem (sendmail not starting). For now, I am just doing this after boot: sudo systemctl start sendmail.service You will want to do the same with dovecot.service . I'm probably missing something having to do with systemd(?). -- Garry Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What's with systemd?
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 10:05:34 -0400 Garry T. Williams gtwilli...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 06:35:37 Arthur Dent wrote: The real problem I have is that after a reboot, several key services fail to start. The crucial ones (for me) are sendmail and dovecot. There are no messages in any logs (that I can find), but my mailchain just isn't working. I have encountered the same problem (sendmail not starting). For now, I am just doing this after boot: sudo systemctl start sendmail.service You will want to do the same with dovecot.service . I'm probably missing something having to do with systemd(?). Does: sudo systemctl enable sendmail.service fix it to start on boot? Or: sudo chkconfig sendmail on ? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15, Gnome 3 and Mouse Pointer Size
On 5 June 2011 10:27, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 06/05/2011 10:38 AM, Sam Sharpe wrote: On 2 June 2011 02:56, david grantd...@david-grant.com wrote: Is there a way of increasing the pointer size, an option that is in Gnome2? I have googled away but cannot find any reference to such an option. Either I have missed something simple or the option has been removed. Have you investigated gnome-tweak-tool? - I believe it can change the cursor theme # yum install gnome-tweak-tool Applications - Accessories - Tweak Advanced Settings - Interface - Cursor Theme Of course you will need to find a cursor theme with a larger cursor though! Hi Sam, did you really mean gnome-tweak-tool? It has no such menus as you described. The submenus I found were: Fonts, File Manager, Interface, Shell and Windows :-) Well, I could have been more clear... I was using shorthand for everything from the Gnome-Shell to the correct tab in gnome-tweak-tool. From Gnome, you find the tool with Applications - Accessories - Tweak Advanced Settings, then once you are in, you navigate to Interface - Cursor Theme -- Sam -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KVM/qemu USB pass-through not working for Win7 guest
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Patrick Oltmann patrick.oltm...@gmx.netwrote: Hy there I'm running a KVM/qemu virtual machine with Win7 as a guest and need a USB device (Smartcard reader w/ PIN pad) to be passed through into that virtual machine. Therefore I use the -device usb-host, hostbus=X, hostaddr=Y, id=hostdev0 command line parameter. However, the device does not show up in the Win7 guest, but does appear when do the same with a Linux guest system (which doesn't make much sense to me since KVM should be a full-virtualized system). Any ideas on how to solve this? its things like this, and trying to setup bridged networking, etc. that still makes virtualbox better to use. Its a shame -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What's with systemd?
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:07:35 Kevin Fenzi wrote: Does: sudo systemctl enable sendmail.service fix it to start on boot? Or: sudo chkconfig sendmail on ? I did systemctl enable sendmail.service initially tinking that was all I needed. When I noticed that failed at reboot, I did chkconfig sendmail on and that didn't help matters. I see a mail-transfer-agent.target in /lib/systemd/system, but my systemd knowledge is lacking. Should this unit be referenced in another unit, say multiuser.target? Should there be a link to it in /usr/lib/systemd/user? Would systemd.log_level=debug be of any use? -- Garry Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Timeout for service shutdown in legacy services
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 09:52 +0300, Leonid Podolny wrote: Hi, When systemd tries to shutdown a service, after a certain timeout, it just kills all the processes belonging to this service. There is a configuration option that allows to change that timeout. However, it is available only for the new systemd formatI and not for the legacy (i.e. /etc/init.d/*) services. The full story goes like this: transmission-daemon has an uncharacteristically long shutdown time. Every time the service goes down, systemd thinks that it is unresponsive and kills it. It messes up the metadata of the seeding (i.e. fully downloaded) torrents and when I bring the daemon back up, it thinks that it needs to re-download a torrent, even though the actual data is there. I have to manually select Verify the local data every time I start the daemon and it is incredibly annoying. I've had a somewhat similar experience with Qbittorrent, but it dates from F14 and so has nothing to do with systemd. The author tells me that the latest QBT fixes it (version 8, now in updates-testing). IMHO it's the responsibility of the app to store persistent data safely in anticipation of sudden exits or crashes, so I don't know that extending the timeout is really a solution. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome, FireFox Both Claim to be Default Browser; Chrome Wins
On Fri June 3 2011, Tim Evans wrote: How do you demote one, when both claim to be default? Open Systemsettings and set your default browser there That's what I did and it worked for me. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome, FireFox Both Claim to be Default Browser; Chrome Wins
On 06/05/2011 10:45 AM, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri June 3 2011, Tim Evans wrote: How do you demote one, when both claim to be default? Open Systemsettings and set your default browser there That's what I did and it worked for me. Thanks. FireFox was already set as default; however, clicking on links in e-mail still opens Chrome. -- Tim Evans, TKEvans.com, Inc.| 5 Chestnut Court UNIX System Admin Consulting| Owings Mills, MD 21117 http://www.tkevans.com/ | 443-394-3864 http://www.come-here.com/News/ | tkev...@tkevans.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome, FireFox Both Claim to be Default Browser; Chrome Wins
On 06/05/2011 09:51 AM, Tim Evans wrote: On 06/05/2011 10:45 AM, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri June 3 2011, Tim Evans wrote: How do you demote one, when both claim to be default? Open Systemsettings and set your default browser there That's what I did and it worked for me. Thanks. FireFox was already set as default; however, clicking on links in e-mail still opens Chrome. Close thunderbird and go into ~/.thunderbird/yourprofiledirectory edit mimeTypes.rdf and find the stanzas that refer to the browser. Look for http and https Here are mine for chrome: RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:http NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:https NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / replace the chrome stuff with the the appropriate links for Firefox. path - /usr/bin/firefox prettyName - Firefox -- -- Steve -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
F15: LXDE install, OpenBox not running
I installed the LXDE spin of Fedora 15 via a live usb stick on my Acer Netbook. The install went through without errors but when starting up LXDE, the Openbox window manager isn't running. Starting it by hand works though I'm not sure how to correctly set it up that it starts up every time. Any hints? Thanks, Niels -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Partition does not end on cylinder boundary
On 06/05/11 03:49, Alan Cox wrote: On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 12:50:12 +0100 Timothy Murphygayle...@eircom.net wrote: Does this matter? If so, what can you do about it? I get it after partitioning with fdisk, choosing partitions of size 50GB, etc. Is it really better to give the block count? Traditional boot loader stuff and BIOS depends on cylinder counts but modern systems don't really care so it's no longer that important. It's probably a good idea to keep any bootable partition cylinder aligned just in case. Incidentally, I notice that lshal takes a block as 512B, while fdisk has 1kB blocks. The physical block size of a traditional hard disk is 512 bytes and each block is fixed that size. The block size used by ext2/3 is usually 1K or 4K and maps to a set of adjacent hard disk blocks. Various tools report 1K blocks. In truth it's even more complicated than that nowdays Firstly - drives haven't truely had a heads/cylinders/sectors geometry model for years, they fake a geometry for compatibility with old OS. Seocndly the physical block size of many modern drives is 4K or so and they fake 512 byte sectors. The OS partitioning tools also try to align things on the boundary of a 'real' sector so that a 4K linux ext3 block maps to a real 4K disk block in order to get the best performance. Alan Right. Also, modern drives have variable sectors per track. But the FS code still organizes disk blocks into cylinder groups. Even though these cylinder groups are virtual (i.e. just the FS driver's way of organizing the disk blocks, it has remained within the FS code for various reasons, such as distributing the inodes to be interspersed over the disk to reduce head movement, and to allocate new blocks as close to the file's or dir's inode as possible. So, even if the a disk cylinder is now a virtual thing, it still helps in organizing the disk blocks into a manageable collection. Perhaps someone will write a new FS that will completely get away from blocks and cylinders. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What's with systemd?
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:05:34 Garry T. Williams wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 06:35:37 Arthur Dent wrote: The real problem I have is that after a reboot, several key services fail to start. The crucial ones (for me) are sendmail and dovecot. There are no messages in any logs (that I can find), but my mailchain just isn't working. I have encountered the same problem (sendmail not starting). This is reported: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704393 -- Garry Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: How to choose network path with two internet connection
On 06/02/2011 10:51 AM, Armelius Cameron wrote: Hello, Suppose I have a laptop that has both Wired and Wireless connection. The Wired connection would be connected to LAN only. The Wireless connection would have full internet access. Obviously the two connections will have two different IP: a local IP address (e.g. 192.168.x.x) for the Wired, and a public IP address for the Wireless. How does an application know which network path to use ? For example, I want to be able to run SSH or Synergy to other machine on the LAN, so SSH would have to use the LAN network. But I also want to be able to run mail client that is connected to an IMAP server in the outside world, so my mail client have to use the Wireless network. How does something like this work ? Thanks. AC The application(s) don't care which path you take they network stack makes the decision first on what I refer to as the longest match wins and then if there are multiple identical routes then route metrics can come into play. Lets say for example your two interfaces are: int1 - 192.168.0.2/24 int2 - 192.168.1.2/24 and your default gateway is 192.168.0.1 You attempt to talk to a machine at 172.16.1.5, your machine will check its routing table for the best match to reach the remote IP, in this case 0.0.0.0 or the default is the only match. lets say you add a static route to your system saying to reach 172.16.0.0/16 use the gateway 192.168.1.1 (actual syntax to add the route: route add -net 172.16.0.0/16 gw 192.168.1.1) now when going to anything in the 172.16.0.0/16 subnet you'll route your traffic via the 192.168.1.1 gateway since 172.16.0.0/16 is a better (longer) match than 0.0.0.0. Say you want to reach all 172.16.0.0/16 traffic through the 192.168.1.1 gateway except the 172.168.1.5 host which needs to go through the 192.168.0.1 gateway, in that case you need to add a host route (syntax route add -host 172.168.1.5 gw 192.168.0.1) notice the host route (or /32 bit network route) is more specific than the network route so the more specific route always wins. You can go so far as to say to reach the address range of 192.168.1.128/25 which is on a directly connected interface go via 192.168.0.1 with a simple network route. hope that helps, Jeff -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome, FireFox Both Claim to be Default Browser; Chrome Wins
On 06/05/2011 10:55 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/05/2011 09:51 AM, Tim Evans wrote: On 06/05/2011 10:45 AM, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri June 3 2011, Tim Evans wrote: How do you demote one, when both claim to be default? Open Systemsettings and set your default browser there That's what I did and it worked for me. Thanks. FireFox was already set as default; however, clicking on links in e-mail still opens Chrome. Close thunderbird and go into ~/.thunderbird/yourprofiledirectory edit mimeTypes.rdf and find the stanzas that refer to the browser. Look for http and https Here are mine for chrome: RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:http NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:https NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / replace the chrome stuff with the the appropriate links for Firefox. These stanzas did not exist, so I added them (with Firefox specified). After re-starting Thunderbird, clicking on links in e-mails still opens Chrome. -- Tim Evans, TKEvans.com, Inc.| 5 Chestnut Court UNIX System Admin Consulting| Owings Mills, MD 21117 http://www.tkevans.com/ | 443-394-3864 http://www.come-here.com/News/ | tkev...@tkevans.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Fedora SOHO server
Hi, I have thought big, and I would like to find an solution if there is any. Btw I'm not an expert in server services, but I really would like to experiment out this - and I think I have good reason for it. I don't want to sell freely my private stuff on google services, and give the possibility to anybody if it has the lust crack it. That's why I have also decided that I never will purchase an android phone, but I would like to support such free services that makes for me possible to keep my freedom and privacy. So - what I really would like to know, if I set up an small home server - witch components can be that I could base for me as free services, and what kind of parameters must have to cover the following: I would like to pick Fedora 14 and I would like to have together on one machine - Mail server - NAS server (maybe openfiler) - Media server (maybe sockso fits here - so I could stream my music) - Office server (maybe Feng office) - Dropbox replacement (maybe SparkleShare - I's cool, I have made the HU translation, whohoo!) - NFS server (Fedora can do this) - SSH (cloud services) - openssh-server? - Proxy (maybe Squid) - LDAP - ? - Cooperation: I think the VERY best option could be here Citadel (http://www.citadel.org/doku.php), and not only for me else generally for Fedora too maybe (it is infinitely scalable (the database can hold up to 256 Terabytes of data) and can be configured to work with other Citadel servers in different geographic locations) - as second option Collanos can be one plus So, I have begun the research, and already found some good candidate for this project, but still no clue what kind of machine could serve me out here silently... If you have good advice for this, please mail me, and maybe we could have our new infra cornerstone node for Fedora ... Thanks, Zoltan -- PGP: 06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JD jd1...@gmail.com: On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- PGP: 06853DF7 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling gnome-shell, gdm, etc?
On 06/05/2011 12:23 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: Post the output. Let's see it How strange. The other time I tried it, it listed a whole bunch of stuff including gnome-color-chooser. This time, nothing was listed that wasn't evolution related. I sit corrected by my own computer. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Partition does not end on cylinder boundary
would you say then, that best practise would be to let anaconda create the /boot, / and other partitions? fdisk wouldn't align properly right? I don't know the fdisk included with Fedora is aware of or not. Probably best to let Anaconda do it in general. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora SOHO server
On 06/04/2011 08:02 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Hi, ...SNIP... Slightly OT, but try one of this distro: Amahi (Fedora based): http://www.amahi.org/ ClearOS (CentOS/RHEL based): http://www.clearfoundation.com/ HTH -- Athmane Madjoudj -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Partition does not end on cylinder boundary
to the file's or dir's inode as possible. So, even if the a disk cylinder is now a virtual thing, it still helps in organizing the disk The notion of a cylinder group comes from BSD, and in 4.2 BSD FFS they were indeed physically laid out to match the media. Linux has never done that because by the time Linux existed it made no sense. Perhaps someone will write a new FS that will completely get away from blocks and cylinders. The only notion a Linux file system abstraction uses is a block number, where 0 is one end of the media and [large number] the other. It doesn't care whether that is flash, rotating media, or indeed cards pinned to donuts. There are some file systems which don't deal with abstract blocking in quite the same way - those are the raw flash file systems that use MTD (eg JFFS2). They have to have a deeper knowledge of the underlying media because of the complex rules about age wearing and erase block sizes on flash media. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Fedora SOHO server
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:02:52PM +0200, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: That's why I have also decided that I never will purchase an android phone, Just a side comment--I, also, refuse to give Google my data. But I run an Android phone with all-local archiving and backup, using my own mail server. You don't have to drink the cool-aid to use the pitcher. I would like to pick Fedora 14 and I would like to have together on one machine... Again, and knowing this is the Fedora group, I would suggest you consider another distribution for a stable server. Fedora is bleedin' edge. It doesn't have a long-term support version, and you're going to be looking at a semi-major evolution in migrating the system on a production server on a regular basis as new releases come out. Most of the services you want to run evolve more slowly than that. Note that I'm *not* saying it won't work, and work well; it's purely a question of how much time and effort you want to put into maintaining your production server's up-to-date status. CentOS isn't as exciting or as current as Fedora, but it is stable and works well in production. Even Ubuntu LTS will fill that bill nicely. You might consider keeping your production server on an LTS distro, and setting up an experimental box, or running your workstation on Fedora where you can experiment to your hearts' content. Cheers, -- Dave Ihnat dih...@dminet.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15: LXDE install, OpenBox not running
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Niels Weber nathelb...@gmail.com wrote: I installed the LXDE spin of Fedora 15 via a live usb stick on my Acer Netbook. The install went through without errors but when starting up LXDE, the Openbox window manager isn't running. Starting it by hand works though I'm not sure how to correctly set it up that it starts up every time. Any hints? There was a bug at some point I thought was already fixed... Maybe it made it onto the spins? Take a look at: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704403 The fix is probably to update and then remove and add your user. An alternative might be to update than then rm -f ~/.config/lxsession and relogin. YMMV Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15: LXDE install, OpenBox not running
Niels Weber nathelbiya at gmail.com writes: ... How do you start LXDE ? I do: $ cat .xinitrc # start LXDE startlxde $ startx $ ps aux |grep -i lxde jb 11541 0.0 0.0 4452 748 pts/2S+ 18:10 0:00 grep -i lxde jb 29913 0.0 0.1 4856 1200 ?SJun03 0:01 /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE jb 29924 0.0 0.7 14880 5780 ?SJun03 0:12 openbox --config-file /home/jb/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml jb 29926 0.1 4.3 334880 32860 ?Sl Jun03 5:13 lxpanel --profile LXDE Also have: $ cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startlxde DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/sbin/lxdm JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: logwatch Mail Not Delivered
On 06/05/2011 06:49 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: This may be a systemd bug. Enabling sendmail.service is ineffective after a reboot. I still have to manually start this service after boot. Up through F14 there was a Gnome control panel (under Administration) called Services. It allowed you to control which services started at boot and in which runlevels. If it's still there in F15 and Gnome3, it's probably what you want to use. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: logwatch Mail Not Delivered
On Sunday, June 05, 2011 12:20:13 Joe Zeff wrote: On 06/05/2011 06:49 AM, Garry T. Williams wrote: This may be a systemd bug. Enabling sendmail.service is ineffective after a reboot. I still have to manually start this service after boot. Up through F14 there was a Gnome control panel (under Administration) called Services. It allowed you to control which services started at boot and in which runlevels. If it's still there in F15 and Gnome3, it's probably what you want to use. OK, I should have mentioned that chkconfig --list sendmail clearly shows that it is enabled. The Services application is no longer very useful[*]. The systemd way is: systemctl enable sendmail.service This succeeds; chkconfig verifies that, but the systemd unit still is not started at boot time. The simple work-around for now is to run systemctl start sendmail.service after boot or to add the command to rc.local . Finally, the problem has been reported: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704393 _ [*] Although I don't run Gnome, the application is system-config-services and it is offered by KDE under the Administration menu. It seems, judging from the UI, that it will allow starting, stopping and restarting only. The enable and disable icons are disabled. Curiously, chkconfig will enable and disable legacy SysV services. All this will eventually be sorted out because the SysV init scripts will be replaced by systemd units. See https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SysVtoSystemd . -- Garry Williams -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Massively parallel (8 to 10 stream) music server/generator ?
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 07:57 -0400, Kanwar Ranbir Sandhu wrote: Check out LinuxMCE. It'll do a lot more than just pump music out to your various zones. That's what I'm going to deploy. I'd offer more details here, but I think you'd be better off reading the site and trolling the forums. When you're ready, get a forum account and start asking questions - lots of people willing to help! Thanks for the link. It looks pretty impressive. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/04/2011 11:33 PM, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JDjd1...@gmail.com: On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JDjd1...@gmail.comwrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. Everyone: I have /never/ been able to get F14 or any other flavor of Fedora to recognize any microphone that I have used. I tried it with a Dell Inspiron 2500. The built-in videocam worked, but the mike? No joy. Then I tried it on a mini-tower with a Plantronics USB stereo headset with microphone. /Again/ no joy. And just to be sure, I plugged it into another box that had Windows 7 installed. And there it worked. I used Skype and talked with someone for an hour and a half. So: /what is wrong with Fedora and microphones?/ Temlakos -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What's with systemd?
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:14 -0400, Garry T. Williams wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 10:05:34 Garry T. Williams wrote: On Sunday, June 05, 2011 06:35:37 Arthur Dent wrote: The real problem I have is that after a reboot, several key services fail to start. The crucial ones (for me) are sendmail and dovecot. There are no messages in any logs (that I can find), but my mailchain just isn't working. I have encountered the same problem (sendmail not starting). This is reported: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=704393 Ahh - Thank you Gary. I'm glad it's not just me. I though I had broken something... Thanks again. Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: LibreOffice and Evolution will not print
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 06:16 -0600, Lawrence E Graves wrote: I am still laboring over the fact that LibreOffice and Evolution and gedit will not allow me to print. If it was just one of them I would not be as concern because I believe it would be fixed eventually. When important places of use are not performing that's a problem. Still patiently waiting for a answer or better a solution. What Fedora version? If this version is an upgrade, did you use yum, preupgrade or what? What Brand of printer and version and how is it connnected? Have you tried with selinux=0 at the grub prompt on boot to see if selinux is the issue? May not be what you want to hear, but might consider doing a fresh install and see if that works. BTW, I can print just fine with libreoffice and evolution (didn't try gedit but am sure I can) on an HP wireless printer (although plugged in via usb to the desktop). -- Mike Chambers Madisonville, KY The best town on Earth! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What's with systemd?
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 09:12 -0400, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 06/05/2011 06:35 AM, Arthur Dent wrote: I have tried very hard to understand how systemd works but I'm just not there yet. Hi, I haven't used it yet. Check out this link (from the main systemd author) which has plenty of information: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-docs.html Regards, Jorge Hi Jorge, Thanks very much. At first I was just going to moan that the page you sent me was only the man pages (which I had already looked at), but then I scrolled down and started to read the blog entries. Much more what I am looking for. I don't have much time at the moment, but I'll try to read more thoroughly sometime next week. Thanks again! Mark signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What did I do wrong?
On 6/5/11, david grant d...@david-grant.com wrote: F15, Gnome 3 and Mouse Pointer Size Is there a way of increasing the pointer size, an option that is in Gnome2? I have googled away but cannot find any reference to such an option. Either I have missed something simple or the option has been removed. You realistically should be asking these questions AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE on a Gnome 3 forum. All Fedora does is add this to the product package as a convenience (and I really don't find it that convenient when the download is 2+GB. Something around a single CD would be a real great release package. If I want Gnome 3, I'll look for it and get it. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/05/2011 09:56 AM, Temlakos wrote: And just to be sure, I plugged it into another box that had Windows 7 installed. And there it worked. I used Skype and talked with someone for an hour and a half. Just to be sure, try booting that box from a LiveCD and see if the mic works. It's not very likely that both of your Linux boxen have matching hardware issues, but this is a quick, simple way to eliminate that possibility. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: KDE Laggy in Fresh F15
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 04:48:29 +, Mark Eggers wrote: -- embarrassed snip -- options nvidia AccelerateTrapezoids=0 d) ln -s /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia.conf nvidia (so boot doesn't complain) e) reboot Do not do this with 275.09. This will cause the boot to hang with an unknown parameter warning from nvidia / LSB. I apparently had forgotten to check the file back out of version control before rebooting last time. I recovered by doing Alt-Ctrl-F3, getting to a console, removing the parameter, and rebooting. I apologize. /mde/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What did I do wrong?
James McKenzie jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com writes: On 6/5/11, david grant dg at david-grant.com wrote: F15, Gnome 3 and Mouse Pointer Size ... You realistically should be asking these questions AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE on a Gnome 3 forum. All Fedora does is add this to the product package as a convenience (and I really don't find it that convenient when the download is 2+GB. Something around a single CD would be a real great release package. If I want Gnome 3, I'll look for it and get it. James McKenzie Well, it looks like you are firmly in the non-GNOME 3 camp :-) Systemd ? It looks like we will have UNIX-like Fedora back again :-) JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Vmware Workstation on Fedora 15
On 06/05/2011 05:42 AM, Mark C. Allman wrote: On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 09:19 -0700, Michael Eager wrote: Has anyone been able to install VM Workstation 6.5 on Fedora 15? FWIW,I have VMware 7.1.4 build-385536 running. No issues. Thanks. Guess it's time to buy the upgrade. If you don't explicitly need workstation you could use VMplayer, which I think is free. I've been using vmware workstation since somewhere in their version 4 or 3 releases so I keep it up to date. Sometimes there are issues but the smart folks on this list usually either know what to do or can make suggestions on what to try. Thanks for the suggestion. Installed VMplayer 3.1.4 on Fedora 15 and it runs fine. -- Michael Eagerea...@eagercon.com 1960 Park Blvd., Palo Alto, CA 94306 650-325-8077 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What did I do wrong?
On 6/5/11 10:52 AM, JB wrote: James McKenziejjmckenzie51at gmail.com writes: On 6/5/11, david grantdgat david-grant.com wrote: F15, Gnome 3 and Mouse Pointer Size ... You realistically should be asking these questions AS WELL AS EVERYONE ELSE on a Gnome 3 forum. All Fedora does is add this to the product package as a convenience (and I really don't find it that convenient when the download is 2+GB. Something around a single CD would be a real great release package. If I want Gnome 3, I'll look for it and get it. James McKenzie Well, it looks like you are firmly in the non-GNOME 3 camp :-) I'm firmly in the 'If you want a GUI, go and get it' camp. If I wanted Windows, I would buy it. Systemd ? It looks like we will have UNIX-like Fedora back again :-) Good. There's been that talk for a while... James McKenzie (I've never met a CLI I don't like.) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Why is xfconfd running?
I just switched my system to use fedora 15 by default with my custom X session that runs fvwm and (mostly) saves me from the incessant changes of gnome and kde. Almost as soon as I'd started my first login session I got a popup identifying itself as some xfce program and telling me updates were available. Running ps, I find I'm running /usr/lib64/xfce4/xfconf/xfconfd, which I certainly didn't start with any kind of deliberate action. I find a org.xfce.Xfconf.service file defined among the /usr/share/dbus-1/services/, but I thought that stuff only started on request (there are about 90 services defined in there, and xfconfd is the only one I find running). Who the devil would have requested that this service start? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What did I do wrong?
James McKenzie jjmckenzie51 at gmail.com writes: ... Well, it looks like you are firmly in the non-GNOME 3 camp I'm firmly in the 'If you want a GUI, go and get it' camp. If I wanted Windows, I would buy it. Systemd ? It looks like we will have UNIX-like Fedora back again Good. There's been that talk for a while... James McKenzie (I've never met a CLI I don't like.) The two babies were delivered. But that was not enuf - post factum they even told us that they wanted them to be dependent, which amounted to twins desired. Now they are both on life support :-) What did I do wrong ?. Plenty ... JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JD jd1...@gmail.com: On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Tried it. Did not help at all. Skype still cannot hear the mic. Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices), I only have the option of pulseaudio for both mic and audio out. When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the input is Capture, and it does not provide any options. When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue. This is really great support for audio :) :) I do not recall having this problem prior to pulseaudio. I checked to see what I can do about pulseaudio, and I see that these are all the pulseaudio and related packages and just a short chain of dependencies (I dod not do an exhastive dependency search, but you will see that it is impossible to remove some of the packages without killing your system alsa-plugins-pulseaudio kde-settings-pulseaudio pulseaudio pulseaudio-equalizer pulseaudio-compat pulseaudio-gdm-hooks pulseaudio-libs pulseaudio-libs-devel pulseaudio-libs-glib2 pulseaudio-libs-zeroconf pulseaudio-module-bluetooth pulseaudio-module-gconf pulseaudio-module-jack pulseaudio-module-lirc pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-module-zeroconf pulseaudio-utils wine-pulseaudio Here is a short list of dependents on these packages: alsa-plugins-pulseaudio is required by kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.5-11.fc14.noarch pulseaudio-module-x11 is required by kde-settings-pulseaudio-4.5-11.fc14.noarch pulseaudio-module-bluetooth is required by gnome-bluetooth-2.32.0-1.fc14.i686 bluedevil-1.1-2.fc14.i686 pulseaudio-gdm-hooks is required by gdm-2.32.1-2.fc14.i686 I think this is a killer dependency. If I remove pulseaudio-gdm-hooks, I lose gdm. pulseaudio-libs is required by libcanberra-0.25-4.fc14.i686 libcanberra is required by
Where is the gtk theme stashed?
I was able to make the selection look like something that was actually selected when the default theme changed in fedora 13 by running gnome-appearance-properties and modifying the selection color to match fedora 12's default color. I'm using my same home directory now in fedora 15, but whatever gconf magic stashes that selection modification is no longer being used by the fedora 15 gtk theme, so I'm now back to this feeble barely noticeable selection that looks a lot like other random highlights and doesn't stand out as the actual selection. I'd like to change the color back, but there is no gnome-appearance-properties in fedora 15 anymore, so I have no idea where to look to change it. Anyone know? Actually, I'd also love to get back the firefox 3 cursor it used when hovering over links. The big black blocky finger in firefox 4 is pretty distracting. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Photos of Facebook
Suddenly I cannot see any photo on facebook account when using Fedora, but they are perfect in Windows. Any idea?? -- Antonio M Skype: amontag52 Linux Fedora F15 (Lovelock) on Acer 5720 http://lugsaronno.altervista.org www.campingmonterosa.com www.studiodacolpaloschi.it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Photos of Facebook
On 06/05/2011 12:53 PM, antonio montagnani wrote: Suddenly I cannot see any photo on facebook account when using Fedora, but they are perfect in Windows. Any idea?? I imagine that under editpreferencescontent you have load images automatically unchecked in Linux. Trever -- The three Rs of Microsoft support: Retry, Reboot, Reinstall. -- Unknown signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Thunderbird/Firefox in F-15 -
When I click on a URL in an Thunderbird e-mail it comes up in Firefox as desired but Firefox jumps into my e-mail window, I don't want that. I assign Firefox a window and I want it to stay there where I will view the information when I am ready. It worked as I want in F-14. Also in F-14, when I closed Firefox it asks if I wanted to save the current set of tabs being displayed. I usually wanted that, in F-15 I don't get that option, when I reboot in the morning I have to set it up to view the routine stuff I normally keep available there, mainly my system usage information which DD-WRT displays in graphic form, etc. I've searched the Preference menus and compared the two computers and they are essentially set up the same but act differently. I assume these things can be configured if one knows where to look? Any help appreciated. Bob -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Another weird systemd problem (I guess) : stunnel
I run stunnel as a service using an old sysv style service init.d script I cobbled up a while back. I checked to make sure it dynamically creates the /var/run/stunnel directory it needs since /var/run is now tempfs, and it already had code to do that. The service appears to start, and I can even see stunnel processes running, but if I try to actually use the stunnel connection, it doesn't work, for example: postfix/smtpd[2568]: lost connection after CONNECT from localhost[127.0.0.1] That is postfix trying to use stunnel to talk to a relayhost to send mail right after a boot. Weirdly, if I do service stunnel restart, I can then use stunnel with no problems. I finally put this line in rc.local, and stunnel seems to be working now when I boot: /bin/bash -c 'sleep 5 ; service stunnel restart' /dev/null 21 /dev/null I can't think what might not be working at the time the stunnel service originally starts, since it is very late in boot.log, but maybe it has the same problem folks have been reporting with sendmail and NFS mounts? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling gnome-shell, gdm, etc?
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 15:26:26 -0500 Aaron Konstam wrote: Are you sure you did not use it? Are you saying you ran yum update periodically do the updates? How inefficient. No, how incredibly less annoying: There is no way to tell what in the blue blazes PackageKit is doing. The progress bar looks the same if you have a crappy connection to the server and you are downloading a 10K update as it does if you have a wonderful high speed connection and you are downloading a 100MB update. With yum, you can actually see what's happening. And unless you disable the PackageKit notifications, you find that every single time you try to run yum manually, you get a message that says PackageKit has it locked already (I think it waits till it sees you type yum, then immediately goes off and checks for updates :-). Plus, I have better things to do than constantly dismiss the popups saying, Hey! There's updates! Don't you want to install updates! You can't possibly have anything else to do can you? Why don't you install updates? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
GNOME Audio Profiles missing
Hi all, I'm on Fedora 15 and trying to rip a CD using CD Extractor (Sound Juicer). Somewhere along the way, my default audio profiles have gotten hosed (see attached screenshot). How do I restore the out-of-the-box default profiles? - Julian GNOME-Audio-Prefs Description: Binary data -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Preupgrade still sucks. Maybe sucks less, maybe sucks more.
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 12:33 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Michael H. Warfield wrote:
Classically, for those servers (some of which originally started out on
FC1) have been upgraded using the yum upgrade method.
As a matter of interest, what exactly is _the_ yum upgrade method?
I've seen the term used by several people,
but as far as I can see they refer to different methods.
And don't all upgrade methods use yum in some way?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
This is a pure yum upgrade from F{x} to F{x+1} (some people have
reported success with x+2 but I would personally avoid that like the
plague) on a live running system without taking it down for the upgrade
process..
So (in very shortened abbreviated summary form), to upgrade from F14 to
F15 you run...
yum update
yum clean all
rpm --import https://fedoraproject.org/static/069C8460.txt
yum --releasever=15 --disableplugin=presto distro-sync
(After a half an hour or so you'll probably complete this and reboot)
yum groupupdate Base
Now, I'm not quite sure exactly why that FAQ page recommends running
yum update yum since the first yum update should take care of that.
I have not been doing that step and it's never burned me (in fact, when
I have done that step, it's done nothing).
You should also read the caveats in that FAQ about cleaning up config
files and looking for any strange .rpmsave or .rpmorg types of things.
I think, in the past, squid was notorious for changing configuration
file formats and you have to port.
Also if you use Postgres, PAY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO DUMPING THE DATABASE
TO AN SQL DUMP FILE FIRST! That is not mentioned on that page but
almost every Fedora click has taken Postgres through and upgrade click
which can not automagically migrate the databases. I don't think
preupgrade or disk upgrades to any better here so it's not the fault of
yum upgrade.
Mike
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Re: problem with fedora when booting
hi what should I add ? Regards 2011/6/4 Neil neil...@gmail.com Hi, have you install a video card driver not OOS? If it is, pls edit the grub line with video default settings. 在 2011-6-4 下午9:19，Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com写道： Dear list My fedora system does not boot after selecting fedora from grub. I get a black screen with a cursor and after that, nothing happens (no error messages appears...) Even when I boot with single mode, the same bevaviour happens. I have fedora 14 on a dell laptop. Can you help? Regards Adel -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address 3 avenue lamine, cité ezzahra, Sousse 4000 Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 (+33640302046 jusqu'au 15/6) fax: +216 71 391 166 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address 3 avenue lamine, cité ezzahra, Sousse 4000 Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 (+33640302046 jusqu'au 15/6) fax: +216 71 391 166 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: problem with fedora when booting
On 6/5/11 2:39 PM, Adel ESSAFI wrote: 2011/6/4 Neil neil...@gmail.com mailto:neil...@gmail.com Dear list My fedora system does not boot after selecting fedora from grub. I get a black screen with a cursor and after that, nothing happens (no error messages appears...) Even when I boot with single mode, the same bevaviour happens. I have fedora 14 on a dell laptop. Can you help? Regards Adel 在 2011-6-4 下午9:19，Adel ESSAFI adeless...@gmail.com mailto:adeless...@gmail.com写道： Hi, have you install a video card driver not OOS? If it is, pls edit the grub line with video default settings. hi what should I add ? Regards What is the line for booting in your grub.conf? What model and manufacturer of the Video Card you are using? Please bottom post here, that is the way we do things. Questions? Read the mailing list guidelines. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: What did I do wrong?
On 6/5/11 11:19 AM, JB wrote: James McKenziejjmckenzie51at gmail.com writes: ... Well, it looks like you are firmly in the non-GNOME 3 camp I'm firmly in the 'If you want a GUI, go and get it' camp. If I wanted Windows, I would buy it. Systemd ? It looks like we will have UNIX-like Fedora back again Good. There's been that talk for a while... James McKenzie (I've never met a CLI I don't like.) The two babies were delivered. But that was not enuf - post factum they even told us that they wanted them to be dependent, which amounted to twins desired. Now they are both on life support :-) What did I do wrong ?. Plenty ... I agree with the analogy, but there are more than two babies and only the two oldest and biggest ones are on life support (Gnome and KDE). The other children like XFDE are gaining weight because their parents are feeding them well. In the attempt to gain users, you actually lost quite a few. Not explaining why changes are being made in a user-centric universe is bad. Doing so AFTER said users say they don't want the changes is asinine. However, we all know the results. I've heard of no thundering requests for change from Windows to Linux, at least not yet. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Preupgrade still sucks. Maybe sucks less, maybe sucks more.
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 17:31 -0400, Michael H. Warfield wrote:
On Sat, 2011-06-04 at 12:33 +0100, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Michael H. Warfield wrote:
Classically, for those servers (some of which originally started out on
FC1) have been upgraded using the yum upgrade method.
As a matter of interest, what exactly is _the_ yum upgrade method?
I've seen the term used by several people,
but as far as I can see they refer to different methods.
And don't all upgrade methods use yum in some way?
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/YumUpgradeFaq
This is a pure yum upgrade from F{x} to F{x+1} (some people have
reported success with x+2 but I would personally avoid that like the
plague) on a live running system without taking it down for the upgrade
process..
So (in very shortened abbreviated summary form), to upgrade from F14 to
F15 you run...
yum update
yum clean all
rpm --import https://fedoraproject.org/static/069C8460.txt
yum --releasever=15 --disableplugin=presto distro-sync
Ok... My apologies. That really wasn't playing fair and very bad of me
over simplifying things a bit too much. That summarizes the process
described on the FAQ page (which I strong, STRONGLY recommend reading)
but there's gotcha's in there.
First off, I should mention, this is the newer process. The
--releasever option and the distro-sync command are relatively new
additions to yum. You use to have to manually download the release rpm,
the release-notes rpm, and the GPG key and install them using rpm then
run a yum update or yum upgrade (which are actually identical
functions - they don't do anything different now, if they ever did
anything different every in the past).
You will often run into dependency failures and it may recommend using
--skip-broken or something like that. I've had terrible luck with
that where yum would enter in to infinite dependency resolution loops!
The procedure I use is to start off with this command:
rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME}\n' | sort -u rpm.list
Then do the steps above. If things slam into a dependency error, run
yum erase to remove the trouble makers, provided it doesn't try to
remove your entire system (saw that once around F11, iirc, that was fun
to work around). Once the above workflow runs to completion with no
dependency problems, then you run this:
yum install `cat rpm.list`
You'll get a lot of bitch about packages already installed but anything
missing will get installed or you will get an error. Currently, it
looks like avidmux from rpmfusion isn't reinstalling for me. Oh well.
It eventually will.
So this isn't necessarily a fire and forget process and it use to be
worse. But... Then again... Neither is preupgrade.
(After a half an hour or so you'll probably complete this and reboot)
yum groupupdate Base
Now, I'm not quite sure exactly why that FAQ page recommends running
yum update yum since the first yum update should take care of that.
I have not been doing that step and it's never burned me (in fact, when
I have done that step, it's done nothing).
You should also read the caveats in that FAQ about cleaning up config
files and looking for any strange .rpmsave or .rpmorg types of things.
I think, in the past, squid was notorious for changing configuration
file formats and you have to port.
Also if you use Postgres, PAY CAREFUL ATTENTION TO DUMPING THE DATABASE
TO AN SQL DUMP FILE FIRST! That is not mentioned on that page but
almost every Fedora click has taken Postgres through and upgrade click
which can not automagically migrate the databases. I don't think
preupgrade or disk upgrades to any better here so it's not the fault of
yum upgrade.
Mike
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Re: Email problem, evolution asking for unknow password
From: Pasha R pashar...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Vincent vone...@verizon.net wrote: Hello, I just switched to F15, I had every thing working OK then the log in on boot up stop appearing, then when I try to log in to evolution the message appeared: Enter password to unlock your login keyring the login keyring did not get unlocked when you logged into the computer I entered the user password didn't accept, I try the root PW didn't accept then I cancel several times and eventually allowed me to get the email. by the way the user PW is still good because I used after I left the computer unused for while. Any idea? Also what is the intended way to shutdown without going to the terminal ant type shutdown? I will appreciate help, thank you Vinny P.S. I can't send email ether. It requires that not know PW evolution looks for password to unlock default keyring, where it (and most Gnome apps) store passwords. Usually, on fresh installation, when some application tries to store password for the first time, it asks you to create password for default keyring. You can try running keyring manager (seahorse in command line) to see if keyring was created. If it exists and you don't know password for it, you can delete it (you will lose any saved passwords, of course) and it should be recreated when evolution tries to save password again. which PW, it doesn't give me the opportunity to enter one I look at seahorse and there is nothing. Is this a new feature on F15 that was implemented through an update? Because initially was working like in the previous release it never asked for keyring PW, this is the first time that I am having problem. I do not need the password for email how can I eliminate it. To shutdown, click your user name in right top corner of the screen, then hold 'Alt' button. Suspend menu item will change to shutdown. There are some extensions that make shutdown menu item permanently visible, just search this archive for it. This worked fine thank you -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:32 -0700, JD wrote: On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JD jd1...@gmail.com: On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Tried it. Did not help at all. Skype still cannot hear the mic. Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices), I only have the option of pulseaudio for both mic and audio out. When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the input is Capture, and it does not provide any options. When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue. This is really great support for audio :) :) I do not recall having this problem prior to pulseaudio. What's your hardware? I had the problem with F13/F14 and resolved it as suggested here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. Searching Bugzilla for microphone turns up a bunch of F15-related stuff that may offer other hints. The advent of pulseaudio seems to have been concurrent with the advent of new hardware technologies like the mic/webcam combo in my laptop. So I reserve judgment on the culpability of pulseaudio. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Math Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu http://www.math.clemson.edu/~mjs -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Thunderbird/Firefox in F-15 -
On 06/05/11 12:36, Bob Goodwin wrote: When I click on a URL in an Thunderbird e-mail it comes up in Firefox as desired but Firefox jumps into my e-mail window, I don't want that. I assign Firefox a window and I want it to stay there where I will view the information when I am ready. It worked as I want in F-14. Also in F-14, when I closed Firefox it asks if I wanted to save the current set of tabs being displayed. I usually wanted that, in F-15 I don't get that option, when I reboot in the morning I have to set it up to view the routine stuff I normally keep available there, mainly my system usage information which DD-WRT displays in graphic form, etc. I've searched the Preference menus and compared the two computers and they are essentially set up the same but act differently. I assume these things can be configured if one knows where to look? Any help appreciated. Bob -- Firefox: Edit-Preferences-Tabs checkmark Open new windows in a new tab instead What you want. checkmark Always show the tab bar (optional) checkmark When I open a link in a new tab, switch to it immediately (optional) Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On 06/05/11 15:24, Matthew Saltzman wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:32 -0700, JD wrote: On 06/04/11 20:33, Zoltan Hoppar wrote: Hi, Possibly you have an IRQ routing problem. As I have with my Azalia HDA Intel card. All you need to do is make an alsa-base.conf file under /etc/modprobe.d as root with the following single line: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1 and save it. After syster restarts, you'll have your mic. If not, then report to me back. Cu, Zoltan 2011/6/5 JDjd1...@gmail.com: On 06/04/11 19:50, Michael Wiktowy wrote: On Sat, Jun 4, 2011 at 10:49 PM, JDjd1...@gmail.com wrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? Try installing pavucontrol. Click on the Input Devices tab. Unlock the two sliders and move *one* to mute. Does that give you any capture volume? /Mike Did that. I experimented with sliding the left chanel all the way back, and tried to record. No sound. Only some white noice in the right speaker. Then I tried with sliding the right chanel all the way back. Still no sound from recording. White noise from left speaker. the gnome-sound-recorder has a level meter while recording. The level meter does not budge. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Tried it. Did not help at all. Skype still cannot hear the mic. Interestingly, when I look at skype options (devices), I only have the option of pulseaudio for both mic and audio out. When I use the /gnome-sound-recorder, it says that the input is Capture, and it does not provide any options. When I click on the Capture to see if it will give me adrop down menu, Capture text box just turns blue. This is really great support for audio :) :) I do not recall having this problem prior to pulseaudio. What's your hardware? I had the problem with F13/F14 and resolved it as suggested here: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. Searching Bugzilla for microphone turns up a bunch of F15-related stuff that may offer other hints. The advent of pulseaudio seems to have been concurrent with the advent of new hardware technologies like the mic/webcam combo in my laptop. So I reserve judgment on the culpability of pulseaudio. My hardware is a laptptop made by uniwill. The sound is the SIS chipset: SI7013 The modules that get loaded are snd_intel8x0 snd_intel8x0m snd_ac97_codec snd_pcm snd_page_alloc /var/log/messages shows: intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 50428 usecs (2426 samples) intel8x0: clocking to 48000 I took a look at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=616197. It looks like the solution is specifig to dell models. Not sure what to put in my /etc/modprobe.d/snd_hda_intel.conf. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F15: LXDE install, OpenBox not running
$ cat .xinitrc # start LXDE startlxde $ startx $ ps aux |grep -i lxde jb 11541 0.0 0.0 4452 748 pts/2S+ 18:10 0:00 grep -i lxde jb 29913 0.0 0.1 4856 1200 ?SJun03 0:01 /usr/bin/lxsession -s LXDE -e LXDE jb 29924 0.0 0.7 14880 5780 ?SJun03 0:12 openbox --config-file /home/jb/.config/openbox/lxde-rc.xml jb 29926 0.1 4.3 334880 32860 ?Sl Jun03 5:13 lxpanel --profile LXDE Also have: $ cat /etc/sysconfig/desktop PREFERRED=/usr/bin/startlxde DISPLAYMANAGER=/usr/sbin/lxdm I noticed that the top line PREFERRED= seems to do nothing. I still can't find any way to run slim -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome, FireFox Both Claim to be Default Browser; Chrome Wins
On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:42 -0400, Tim Evans wrote: On 06/05/2011 10:55 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/05/2011 09:51 AM, Tim Evans wrote: On 06/05/2011 10:45 AM, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri June 3 2011, Tim Evans wrote: How do you demote one, when both claim to be default? Open Systemsettings and set your default browser there That's what I did and it worked for me. Thanks. FireFox was already set as default; however, clicking on links in e-mail still opens Chrome. Close thunderbird and go into ~/.thunderbird/yourprofiledirectory edit mimeTypes.rdf and find the stanzas that refer to the browser. Look for http and https Here are mine for chrome: RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:http NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:https NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / replace the chrome stuff with the the appropriate links for Firefox. These stanzas did not exist, so I added them (with Firefox specified). After re-starting Thunderbird, clicking on links in e-mails still opens Chrome. You haven't mentioned which desktop you're using. You need to change the *Gnome* defaults (even if you're using KDE) because Thunderbird and the two browsers are all Gnome apps. Run gnome-control-center from a Shell and proceed from there. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Unable to microphone
On Sunday 05 June 2011 19:32:20 JD wrote: On F14. Pulseaudio daemion is running. I can hear media playing. But I am unable to use microphone. i,e. no matter what app I use the mic with, (as in skype, or gnome-sound-recorder or aurecord), my mic does not pick up my voice. I have a built-in and an external. Neither one is picking my voice. gnome-volume-control-applet shows me that I can select mic1 or mic2 as input. Neither one is working. I wonder if this is a pulseaudio issue? I doubt it's a pulseaudio issue. What is the output of arecord -l? Are you sure that microphone is not muted or something? The only safe way to check that is to run alsamixer in the terminal, press F6 to choose the soundcard, select the actual hardware soundcard in the pop-up menu instead of the default (which represents the pulseaudio mixer), press F4 to see capture devices, and play around with the settings --- unmute everything, boost mic gain, etc. Then press ESC to exit alsamixer and try again with your favorite app. Open the app, begin recording, open pavucontrol, go to recording and input devices tabs, and boost the capture volume if needed. Also check there that everything is unmuted. If that doesn't do it, it's an ALSA problem with the driver for your card. Google is your friend. I don't see any other place where a mic could fail. Also, if you are unsure of the proper config of your recording app (they often can be misconfigured by default, skype being the typical example), use arecord --- that should always work if your driver is ok. Read the man arecord for examples on how to use it. I checked to see what I can do about pulseaudio, and I see that these are all the pulseaudio and related packages and just a short chain of dependencies (I dod not do an exhastive dependency search, but you will see that it is impossible to remove some of the packages without killing your system Regardless of dependencies, I would say that it is a Bad Idea (tm) to remove pulseaudio. It is in the system for a reason, and it does its job well. PA is often used as a scapegoat when people run into sound problems, typically without it being the real culprit. Some time ago there was a witch-hunt against PA on this very list. It took a lot of persuading/teaching to help people realize that PA typically had nothing to do with their audio problems. Here is a short list of dependents on these packages: pulseaudio-gdm-hooks is required by gdm-2.32.1-2.fc14.i686 This is cute! :-) I really wonder why would a login manager need PA. Any ideas? pulseaudio-libs is required by pavucontrol-0.9.10-1.fc13.i686 Another killer dependency Now, you *are* aware that pavucontrol stands for PulseAudio Volume Control, right? How can you expect pavucontrol not to be a dependency on pulseaudio-libs? In general, 90% of the audio problems are either down to wrong mixer settings (things being muted) or driver problems (ALSA being unable to drive the hardware). For the latter, you want to check on the Internet how good is the ALSA support for your hardware. For the former, the only two mixers I trust are alsamixer and pavucontrol. Note that in alsamixer you want to choose your sound card explicitly (or use the -c option) to reach the ALSA-level hardware mixer (which is below the pulseaudio mixer). Once you have configured the levels there, the only thing you ever need to use is pavucontrol, to change the levels of various sources on-the-fly, at the PA level. Other mixers (from gnome, kde, etc.) *should* provide equivalent functionality (and typically this works well), but they are just GUI's wrapped around alsamixer and pavucontrol, so you gain nothing by using them (other than nice visual desktop integration, ie. eye-candy). If you need to troubleshoot something, ignore them and use pavucontrol and alsamixer only. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome, FireFox Both Claim to be Default Browser; Chrome Wins
On 06/06/2011 07:56 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: You haven't mentioned which desktop you're using. You need to change the *Gnome* defaults (even if you're using KDE) because Thunderbird and the two browsers are all Gnome apps. Run gnome-control-center from a Shell and proceed from there. That is exactly what I've had to do for several releases now. So, I concur with this diagnosis. :-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Flash update questions for f14
Hi, I've installed flash-plugin-10.3.162.29-2.x86_64 on fedora14 from https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/users/packages/leigh123linux but it's now outdated and no update seems to exist. The repo URL is http://www.linux-ati-drivers.homecall.co.uk/flashplayer.x86_64 I believe. The Adobe page points to an i386 version, and no Adobe Labs version is currently available. How can I continue to use the 64-bit version on fedora as an RPM with the current version? In other words, is there a new repo that can be accessed for the latest version of flash? Thanks, Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Flash update questions for f14
On 06/06/2011 08:25 AM, Alex wrote: The Adobe page points to an i386 version, and no Adobe Labs version is currently available. How can I continue to use the 64-bit version on fedora as an RPM with the current version? The 64 bit version is available from Adobe Labsjust not in rpm format. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/square/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Real benefits of RHEL over Fedora?
Hi, I'm in the process of building a mail server and considering CentOS, fedora, or RHEL. If I chose the RHEL option, I would probably choose the minimal support level. This server will be performing basic mail functions, including postfix, dovecot, spamassassin, and webmail/squirrelmail. It will be a moderately active server, delivering as many as 80k emails per day. For something like this, will there be a great performance benefit to using RHEL over fedora? Is the kernel that much different that it would make a significant difference? Both would use ext4 for the filesystem. Both would use the same spamassassin and postfix versions... Are the benefits to using the KVM/qemu virtual machine features on RHEL 6.x that much better than what's available in fedora15? I recall reading that CentOS is having trouble keeping up with the latest RHEL. Is this currently a problem? Any input on whether future updates will be delayed as well? Thanks for any ideas. Alex -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Flash update questions for f14
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 06/06/2011 08:25 AM, Alex wrote: The Adobe page points to an i386 version, and no Adobe Labs version is currently available. How can I continue to use the 64-bit version on fedora as an RPM with the current version? The 64 bit version is available from Adobe Labsjust not in rpm format. http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/square/ Adobe hasn't updated the 64 bit flash plugin in many months (6 to be specific). -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Chrome, FireFox Both Claim to be Default Browser; Chrome Wins
On 06/05/2011 07:56 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 11:42 -0400, Tim Evans wrote: On 06/05/2011 10:55 AM, Steven Stern wrote: On 06/05/2011 09:51 AM, Tim Evans wrote: On 06/05/2011 10:45 AM, John Aldrich wrote: On Fri June 3 2011, Tim Evans wrote: How do you demote one, when both claim to be default? Open Systemsettings and set your default browser there That's what I did and it worked for me. Thanks. FireFox was already set as default; however, clicking on links in e-mail still opens Chrome. Close thunderbird and go into ~/.thunderbird/yourprofiledirectory edit mimeTypes.rdf and find the stanzas that refer to the browser. Look for http and https Here are mine for chrome: RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:http NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / RDF:Description RDF:about=urn:scheme:externalApplication:https NC:prettyName=google-chrome NC:path=/opt/google/chrome/google-chrome / replace the chrome stuff with the the appropriate links for Firefox. These stanzas did not exist, so I added them (with Firefox specified). After re-starting Thunderbird, clicking on links in e-mails still opens Chrome. You haven't mentioned which desktop you're using. You need to change the *Gnome* defaults (even if you're using KDE) because Thunderbird and the two browsers are all Gnome apps. Run gnome-control-center from a Shell and proceed from there. Gnome 3 default desktop. I have run gnome-control-center (several times, as a matter of fact); FireFox is set as default browser. -- Tim Evans, TKEvans.com, Inc.| 5 Chestnut Court UNIX System Admin Consulting| Owings Mills, MD 21117 http://www.tkevans.com/ | 443-394-3864 http://www.come-here.com/News/ | tkev...@tkevans.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling gnome-shell, gdm, etc?
On 06/05/2011 01:26 PM, Aaron Konstam wrote: On Sun, 2011-06-05 at 08:16 +0800, H Xu wrote: Hello, I didn't use PackageKit when I was using Fedora 14. Now it seems that I can't uninstall PackageKit without uninstalling those packages. Is this a package bug? Thanks. Regards, H Xu 06/05/2011 Are you sure you did not use it? Are you saying you ran yum update periodically do the updates? How inefficient. This is sarcasm, right? :) John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Real benefits of RHEL over Fedora?
On 6/5/11 5:42 PM, Alex wrote: Hi, I'm in the process of building a mail server and considering CentOS, fedora, or RHEL. If I chose the RHEL option, I would probably choose the minimal support level. Is this for a business or personal use? If it is for business, go with RHEL 6 or the latest version of CentOS. Fedora, as great as it is, continues to be a testing environment for RedHat. If it is for personal/home use, I would choose Fedora, if you like to run in a testing environment and have access to the latest programs. If you don't like doing that, then I would go with CentOS. James McKenzie -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F14 NFS client gets wrong ownership IDs on NFS mounted partition
On 05/04/2011 04:46 PM, Mark Eackloff wrote: On 05/04/2011 03:12 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Tue, 03 May 2011 17:10:27 -0400 Mark Eackloff wrote: Just upgraded to F14. Small home network environment. As before my upgrade from F13, my /home directory is an NFS mounted partition exported from my F13 (not yet upgraded) server. Nothing changed on the server. Where all my imported /home files on the client had the correct ownership before the upgrade, they now all show a UID and GID of 99 (nobody) on the client. This is obviously rendering filess nearly useless. Authentication is through NIS. ypcat passwd yields expected listing with all imported user IDs with the expected UIDs and GIDs (all above 499). I guess this an NFS version problem which I had also. Add nfsvers=3 to your mount options and retry. For me, I hat to add the option to my automounter files, YMMV. --Frank Elsner Bingo! Strange though. The man page for mount.ntfs has no mention of that option. Thanks Frank Mark Found it on man 5 nfs. Mark -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: F14 NFS client gets wrong ownership IDs on NFS mounted partition
On 06/06/2011 09:23 AM, Mark Eackloff wrote: On 05/04/2011 04:46 PM, Mark Eackloff wrote: On 05/04/2011 03:12 AM, Frank Elsner wrote: On Tue, 03 May 2011 17:10:27 -0400 Mark Eackloff wrote: Just upgraded to F14. Small home network environment. As before my upgrade from F13, my /home directory is an NFS mounted partition exported from my F13 (not yet upgraded) server. Nothing changed on the server. Where all my imported /home files on the client had the correct ownership before the upgrade, they now all show a UID and GID of 99 (nobody) on the client. This is obviously rendering filess nearly useless. Authentication is through NIS. ypcat passwd yields expected listing with all imported user IDs with the expected UIDs and GIDs (all above 499). I guess this an NFS version problem which I had also. Add nfsvers=3 to your mount options and retry. For me, I hat to add the option to my automounter files, YMMV. --Frank Elsner Bingo! Strange though. The man page for mount.ntfs has no mention of that option. Thanks Frank Mark Found it on man 5 nfs. Mark With NFSv4 now being the default, and preferred protocol, it is important/vital to modify the file /etc/idmapd.conf on both the client and server side to avoid the issue of mismatched file ownership. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
