[389-users] How do I configure Solaris 10 as a LDAP client.

2011-12-13 Thread Arpit Tolani
Below are the configuration i configured, able to see the user in getent
passwd output
see user in ldaplist output.

but cant login. it fails using ssh

bash-3.2# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf |grep -v ^#
passwd: files ldap
group:  files ldap
hosts: files dns # Added by DHCP
ipnodes: files dns # Added by DHCP
networks:   files
protocols:  files
rpc:files
ethers: files
netmasks:   files
bootparams: files
publickey:  files
netgroup:   files
automount:  files
aliases:files
services:   files
printers:   user files
auth_attr:  files
prof_attr:  files
project:files
tnrhtp: files
tnrhdb: files

bash-3.2# cat /etc/pam.conf |grep -v ^#
login   auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
login   auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
login   auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
login   auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
login   auth required   pam_dial_auth.so.1
login   auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
rlogin  auth sufficient pam_rhosts_auth.so.1
rlogin  auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
rlogin  auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
rlogin  auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
rlogin  auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
rlogin  auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
krlogin auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
krlogin auth required   pam_krb5.so.1
rsh auth sufficient pam_rhosts_auth.so.1
rsh auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
rsh auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
krshauth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
krshauth required   pam_krb5.so.1
ktelnet auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
ktelnet auth required   pam_krb5.so.1
ppp auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
ppp auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
ppp auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
ppp auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
ppp auth required   pam_dial_auth.so.1
ppp auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
other   auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
other   auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
other   auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
other   auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
other   auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
passwd  auth required   pam_passwd_auth.so.1
passwd  auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
cronaccount requiredpam_unix_account.so.1
other   account sufficient  pam_ldap.so.1
other   account requisite   pam_roles.so.1
other   account requiredpam_unix_account.so.1
other   session requiredpam_unix_session.so.1
other   password required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
other   password requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
other   password requisite  pam_authtok_check.so.1 force_check
other   password required   pam_authtok_store.so.1

bash-3.2# cat /var/ldap/ldap_client_file
NS_LDAP_FILE_VERSION= 2.0
NS_LDAP_SERVERS= 192.168.122.155
NS_LDAP_SEARCH_BASEDN= dc=example,dc=com
NS_LDAP_AUTH= simple
NS_LDAP_SEARCH_REF= TRUE
NS_LDAP_SEARCH_SCOPE= sub
NS_LDAP_SEARCH_TIME= 30
NS_LDAP_CACHETTL= 43200
NS_LDAP_PROFILE= default
NS_LDAP_CREDENTIAL_LEVEL= proxy
NS_LDAP_SERVICE_SEARCH_DESC= passwd: ou=People,dc=example,dc=com?
sub
NS_LDAP_SERVICE_SEARCH_DESC= group: ou=Groups,dc=example,dc=com?sub
NS_LDAP_SERVICE_SEARCH_DESC= shadow: ou=People,dc=example,dc=com?sub
NS_LDAP_BIND_TIME= 2

bash-3.2# cat /var/ldap/ldap_client_cred
NS_LDAP_BINDDN=cn=Directory Manager
NS_LDAP_BINDPASSWD=redhat123

bash-3.2# /etc/init.d/ldap.client start
bash-3.2# svcadm enable network/ldap/client
bash-3.2# /usr/lib/ldap/ldap_cachemgr -g

bash-3.2# getent passwd test
test:x:1001:1001::/home/test:/bin/bash

bash-3.2# ldaplist -l passwd test
dn: uid=test,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com
uidNumber: 1001
sn: test
gidNumber: 1001
loginShell: /usr/bin/bash
shadowMax: 9
objectClass: person
objectClass: organizationalPerson
objectClass: inetOrgPerson
objectClass: posixAccount
objectClass: shadowAccount
objectClass: top
uid: test
shadowLastChange: 12994
cn: test
homeDirectory: /home/test
shadowWarning: 7
userPassword: {SSHA}6qy0z4cffk6tZdbh0IaOSOJgAqlmCq/zCtAX+g==


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Background image on lock

2011-12-13 Thread Javier Perez
In Fedora 15, when I lock down the display, the whole display went black.
Now in Fedora 16, when Ilock down the display, it is locked but the image
of whatever I was working with is left on display.

How can I go back to the behaviour of Fedora 15?

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Re: USB display?

2011-12-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 15:45:40 -0800
Alan Evans ame.fed...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello All!
 
 The boss dropped one of those DisplayLink USB display adaptors on my
 desk today, and I'm drooling at the prospect of having a third monitor
 on my devel machine.

Oh don't get too excited

 screen. But Xorg doesn't seem to care; and my desktop is still limited
 to my current two heads, with nary a hint of another display device
 available.

You need either
- A DisplayLink X server module

or

- Load the USB framebuffer driver (udlfb) with the option fb_defio=1
and add an xorg.conf for it. You may also need to fiddle with the
permissions on /dev/fb1 or wherever it ends up (udev can do this for you)

Now the bigger problem is that it's unaccelerated which means if you are
using Gnome 3 it'll drop the entire desktop back to the old style of
operation.

 In the old days, I might have tried to jack with the xorg.conf file,
 but that seems to have vanished somewhere along the way while I wasn't

xorg.conf still applies but the server defaults are for automatic probing
and behaviour.

 looking. Has anybody got one of these things to work? How can I tell
 Xorg that there's another display out there, longing to be used?

Write an xorg.conf just like the old days - put your USB interface in as
a fbdev device. Don't expect however to be able to drag windows between
the USB interface and the other monitors using a basic setup.

Gnome appears to be unable to cope with a single setup of unaccelerated
and accelerated displays in Gnome 3, so you may have to fiddle around a
bit or use a different desktop. Some people set the main desktop up
bigger than their displays and then run a separate server on the USB
display and use vnc full screen on it to display that extra chunk full
screen on a USB display. Hackish but works fine, and with minimal
performance impact.

Alan

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Compiz - ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: !?

2011-12-13 Thread William Case

ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
compiz-fusion-extras = 0.8.6 is needed by
compiz-fusion-extras-gnome-0.8.6-1.fc14.x86_64
Please report this error at http://yum.baseurl.org/report 

I get the above warning when trying to update compiz.  I have tried yum
remove compiz and get another warning about being unable to remove it.
]# Remove   10 Package(s)

Installed size: 22 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Running rpm_check_debug
ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
compiz-fusion-extras = 0.8.6 is needed by (installed)
compiz-fusion-extras-gnome-0.8.6-1.fc14.x86_64
Please report this error in http://yum.baseurl.org/report
** Found 2 pre-existing rpmdb problem(s), 'yum check' output follows:
compiz-fusion-extras-gnome-0.8.6-1.fc14.x86_64 has missing requires of
compiz-fusion-extras = ('0', '0.8.6', None)
libpanelappletmm-2.26.0-2.fc12.x86_64 has missing requires of
libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)
Your transaction was saved, rerun it with: yum
load-transaction /tmp/yum_save_tx-2011-12-13-05-55T7wDn2.yumtx

Have tried several different gyrations of yum and I am getting nowhere.
I have had this upgrade problem with compiz for a couple of months now.
Any suggestions ?

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Re: Compiz - ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: !?

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 06:01:54 -0500, WC (William) wrote:

 
 ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
 compiz-fusion-extras = 0.8.6 is needed by
 compiz-fusion-extras-gnome-0.8.6-1.fc14.x86_64
 Please report this error at http://yum.baseurl.org/report 

Ignore Yum's request to report it there. If everybody reported dependency
errors there, the tracker would be flooded with issues that cannot be fixed
by Yum upstream.

 I get the above warning when trying to update compiz.  I have tried yum
 remove compiz and get another warning about being unable to remove it.
 ]# Remove   10 Package(s)
 
 Installed size: 22 M
 Is this ok [y/N]: y
 Downloading Packages:
 Running rpm_check_debug
 ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve:
 compiz-fusion-extras = 0.8.6 is needed by (installed)
 compiz-fusion-extras-gnome-0.8.6-1.fc14.x86_64
 Please report this error in http://yum.baseurl.org/report
 ** Found 2 pre-existing rpmdb problem(s), 'yum check' output follows:
 compiz-fusion-extras-gnome-0.8.6-1.fc14.x86_64 has missing requires of
 compiz-fusion-extras = ('0', '0.8.6', None)

A packaging mistake in compiz-fusion-extras. Next time report it at
http://bugz.fedoraproject.org/compiz-fusion-extras

I've done it for this issue: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/767138

 libpanelappletmm-2.26.0-2.fc12.x86_64 has missing requires of
 libpanel-applet-2.so.0()(64bit)

rpm -e libpanelappletmm

Looks like a dead package that hasn't been updated for the newer
libpanel-applet library ABI/API. Possibly add any package to the rpm -e
that depends on this.

You can run Yum queries to examine whether a package still exists in the 
repositories. Additionally queries, such as yum list extras can also
be helpful. They are explained in the manual.
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Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but...

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:07:30 -0800, LM (Linda) wrote:

 
 In F-14.. when screensaver slideshow runs, the previous pix takes
 quite a while to fully fade-out, and is completely gone only a few
 seconds before the pix changes again.. 

Have you checked whether this is still like that with Fedora 16?

 [...] but on an old tower, with only
 250-megs of RAM, the fade is nearly instant..? 

What are the hardware details for both machines?
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Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:57:53 -0800, LM (Linda) wrote:

 Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?
 
 From:
 Reindl Harald  [Add]
 
 
 why do you not leave the world in peace with your
 useless quotes? if you have something fedira-related
 to say: say it - if not - do not post!
 
 
 
 _
 
 
 
 
 If you don't like something, then don't read it...  Don't read my posts,
 I don't read yours...
 
 Why must you spew insults and flame at everything you don't like..? 
 Get some self-control dude...
 
 You aren't gonna like my next posts, so just don't click on them...
 
 So Reindl Harald, are you god?..  Am I supposed to be doing that
 which you command..? 

-snip-

Rather than getting rude and flaming Harald, who is a knowledgeable
subscriber of this list (and it may be helpful to have available such
subscribers on this list eventually), it could turn out to be much more
productive for you, if you spent some time on explaining what threats
you believe you're exposed to with your machine and what makes you think
that you need to reinstall frequently due to damage done to your system
by strangers (either remotely or with physical access to your machine?).
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abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Genes MailLists

  I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI
crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including
things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.


  I think abrtd needs help with its decisions ... it appears way too
naive in the debuginfo files it needs.

  That said - how do I remove it?

  I removed abrt-libs - is that sufficient? Or is there an abrtd daemon
that somehow needs to be removed ... F15

  thanks

   gene/
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Re: Is there a Linux file-safe for Fedora's home file..?

2011-12-13 Thread Stephen Gallagher
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 20:13 -0800, Peter Gordon wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 19:10 -0800, Linda McLeod wrote:
  Is there a super secure way to lock Home File with an encrypted
  password..?
  
  Is there anything in Linux that locks a file behind a tier or key of
  passwords..?
 
 One thing that comes to mind is to keep the entire /home directory on a
 LUKS-encrypted partition or similar. (In fact, the past few Fedora
 releases have made this relatively simple: just enable the Encrypt
 option for that partition in the installation screen.)

This works if you have a single-user system, but it's not great if you
have a shared machine. I think he's asking for a file vault of some sort
where you can maintain your own home directory as encrypted separate
from the whole filesystem.

I'm not currently aware of any such mechanism in Fedora, but I'd be
interested to find out if I'm wrong.


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Re: Is there a Linux file-safe for Fedora's home file..?

2011-12-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/13/2011 07:59 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

 This works if you have a single-user system, but it's not great if you
 have a shared machine. I think he's asking for a file vault of some sort
 where you can maintain your own home directory as encrypted separate
 from the whole filesystem.
 
 I'm not currently aware of any such mechanism in Fedora, but I'd be
 interested to find out if I'm wrong.
 
 
 

  FYI - fuse encfs will do this - but, like all things fuse, its
horribly slow in my view ... I have used it for keeping a single
directory within /home/user/private

  I much prefer luks tho ... as you say different purpose.

  gene
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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk ... additional question

2011-12-13 Thread John Aldrich

Quoting Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net:


Perhaps the best option to look at it.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/#screenshots

Screen Show 1 - shows the syslinux boot menu screen.
Usually just press Enter to boot the default kernel.

Press right arrow of side of image to go to next screen shot.

Screen shot 2 - shows the various options. For local backup just
enter g4l and press enter.

Screen shot 3 -Just Press Enter to select Raw Menu option

Screen shot 4 - Select Local Menu optin and enter

Screen shot 5 - Is network menu we skip.

Screen shot 6 - Local Menu.

A Enter to select the partition to save image on.
B Enter the name of the Image file.
C Skip unless File sytem doesn't support larger files
D Skip unless you want to use a compress other than lzop
E Will start a backup with lzop compress.
   Prompts for partition or disk to backup
   Will show progress bar as it does back.

Then reboot.

That's the simple version. Just use option F instead of E to
restore. The utility menu has a way to clear free space to reduce
image size.

There is also a documentation file that has more than the 6
screen shots that sourceforge allows, and it has some step by
step instructions that might be helpful.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/files/g4l%20documentation/g4l0
.37-documentationsm.pdf/download
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Let me say I have used G4L at a previous employer to do backups of  
machines, etc and it's VERY easy to use and pretty much my default  
program. I had problems figuring out CloneZilla and I'm an IT  
specialist!

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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk ... additional question

2011-12-13 Thread Matthew J. Roth
Paul Allen Newell wrote:
 
 Given that all I want is to make an image of the current hard drive
 that I can copy back onto the hard drive as a recovery,


Paul,

My advice is to keep it simple.  Burn the Clonezilla Live¹ ISO to a
CD/DVD and use it to save an image of the current hard drive to the
USB drive.  Step-by-step directions for saving and restoring the
image² are provided.

I've been following this thread and you're getting a lot of good
advice, but simplicity and reliability are key when dealing with
backups.  In my opinion, Clonezilla Live is very easy to use and it
will just work for your task.

¹ Clonezilla live: http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php
² Clonezilla - Live Doc: http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live-doc.php

Regards,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer
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Re: question re: multi-head gnome3

2011-12-13 Thread Tim
On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 12:27 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote:
 The more I hear about things like this from the Gnome devs the more it
 sounds like they're only interested in having Gnome 3 able to do
 things the devs need and don't care about anybody else.

You get that impression, don't you...

It's not too surprising, and software creation is full of things like
that.  Someone's pet project that became really popular, but the
originator is really only interested in fulfilling their own needs.

 I hope I'm wrong, because if I'm right, it won't be long before Gnome
 has marginalized itself as the vast majority of users abandon it
 because they can't get it to do what they need anymore.

Well, my play with Fedora 16 just leaves me cold.  I'm still on Fedora
9, because it's just got worse and worse, since then.

It was dead in the water on a fresh install from the 64-bit live CD.
You'd get the login screen, then after trying to log in, the oh-no
warning, and no options to make any changes that might do anything to
get it working.  All I could do was switch to a text console, and do a
yum update, hoping that an update would fix things.  It, sort-of, did.

New fancy Gnome3 works in a really annoying way that I just don't want
to put up with.  It's hard to believe that someone thought that
tomfoolery was a good idea.  Fallback mode is just about tolerable.  I
was getting crashes all over the place, either way, but I'm not sure if
that was the machine, or Gnome.  I was trying it out a computer that I'd
never touched before.  Trying to restart X, after a crash, or kill off X
to try and restart, was just going nowhere, likewise with trying to
switch between different virtual terminals and the GUI, so my debugging
attempts have given up in disgust.

Tried KDE, liked that even less.  And they've still got the annoying
mentality that installing KDE installs tons of guff.  There's no notion
of install a basic desktop, and let me decide what *few* applications I
might want.

Tried XFCE, not thrilled with that, either.  It didn't want to make any
sounds, so never mind trying to listen to music, or watch YouTube, or
anything else with audio.  And I don't really care for its UI.

Everything I've tried, then, and before, as a Gnome2 substitute, I
dislike.  What I want, and go looking for in substitutes, is something
that works like Gnome2 did.  I'm not alone in that.  It's the interface
model that I want.

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Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

2011-12-13 Thread Tim
On Tue, 2011-12-13 at 12:36 +0100, Michael Schwendt wrote:
 if you spent some time on explaining what threats you believe you're
 exposed to with your machine and what makes you think that you need to
 reinstall frequently due to damage done to your system by strangers

I don't think they're capable of making coherent communication.  And
that's about the politest and most diplomatic way to put it.

Just look at their postings, replies, and web links.  And you can make
your own *diagnosis*.  Every one of them has been downright weird, to
put it mildly.

You can't tell if they're being a deliberate time wasting troll, or
they're paranoid and delusional.

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Re: Why is PackageKit needed for abrt?

2011-12-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 8:42 PM, Stephen Gallagher sgall...@redhat.com wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 12:36 -0800, Steven I Usdansky wrote:
 It appears that upgrading abrt in F16 from 2.0.6-1 to 2.0.7-2 is going
 to require installation of PackageKit, which I long ago purged from my
 system. Just wondering, why the additional requirement?


 ABRT will pull down debuginfo packages when you file a bug so the
 backtrace is usable. So it needs to have PackageKit around to handle
 acquiring those packages.

Indeed so - however it is not unusual for abrt to require pulling in
several hundred megabytes of debuginfo stuff in order to file a report
- and I wonder if that might put a significant number of users off and
abandon completing the report at that point, particularly if they have
limited bandwidth available for downloads?

This may already be inhibiting the provision of some fraction of
important abrt entries? It would be interesting to hear other people's
view on this aspect?
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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500
Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:

 
   I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI
 crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including
 things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.

It's not bright in some cases. Just tell it not to. The newest version of
abrt will upload dumps to a server to crunch instead which is a lot more
sociable.

Alan
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Re: Connecting via ssh on boot

2011-12-13 Thread Bryn M. Reeves

On 12/12/2011 02:13 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:



Am 12.12.2011 15:11, schrieb Shibi:

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 5:16 PM, Reindl Haraldh.rei...@thelounge.net  wrote:



Am 12.12.2011 14:44, schrieb Shibi:

I forward my ports through ssh on fedora 16 to a VPS server as a socks
proxy tunnel.
how can I get the connection on boot time?


/etc/rc.local


it requires password for login


then you can't and have to setup key-authentication
http://www.petefreitag.com/item/532.cfm


Or learn expect (and deal with the consequences of having to store a 
plaintext password).


Regards,
Bryn.

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Re: External drive partitioning problems

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 12/13/2011 08:36 AM, Bryn M. Reeves wrote:

On 12/12/2011 03:33 AM, Tim wrote:

On Sun, 2011-12-11 at 12:09 -0800, John Wendel wrote:

By default 5% of the disk is reserved for root, totally stupid
default. Use tune2fs -m 0 to recover this space.


That rather depends on what you're putting on the drive (e.g. whopping
huge video editing files), and whether you do need to make very sure
that you leave enough space to fix up a problem with them.  It's no fun
trying to sort out a drive that's 99% full.  Though, yes, 5% probably is
too much.



You also might like to check out how your file system's block 
allocator behaves when the file system is 95% utilized. It's not 
always pretty.




After a little investigation, I decided to go with -m 2  or 2% rather 
than 5%.



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Is Fedora good for Java developers?

2011-12-13 Thread Caffeine Lee
Hi all,

I want to ask if Fedora is good for me a Java developer? I will be working
with Java EE technologies and possibly developing Eclipse plugins also. I'm
considering Fedora for working in my new company.

I used Fedora for about a year. It was Fedora 12 and 13. F13 was quite
stable and I like it. I tried F16 lately but it's not stable yet, many bugs
and Gnome 3 is not mature. Not sure if it will be stable soon, or how
Fedora has been. Its release cycle is quite short, I'm afraid that frequent
update/upgrade could cause major problem to my development environment

After Fedora 13, for some reason, I switched to Debian Squeeze and I'm
still using it. It's a little bit old and lack of cool new features but
very stable, high performance and it has a very good community. Don't know
if it's worth to sacrifice (Debian) stability for (Fedora) features? Please
help me decide.

Thank you
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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-13 Thread g
On 12/12/2011 05:54 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:


 Before I consider actually doing it, I wanted to ask if there is the 
 equivalent of a recovery disk that I can create with k3b so,

back to the begining. thread has gotten so long, this is easier than
finding my post that i know caused you more confusion.


in that post, i stated to install 'partedmagic' on a usb stick;

  http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=creating_the_liveusb

and add 'g4l' by pulling files, or as a second boot. *not needed*.


my bad. to correct, 'partedmagic' has both 'clonezilla' and 'g4l' on
it so there is no need to install it a second time.

as i recall posting;

  http://partedmagic.com/doku.php

in 'programs' page;

  http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=programs

shows 'clonezilla';

  http://clonezilla.org/

listed, but does not list 'g4l';

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/

it is there, because when i rebooted after my last email to thread last
night, i booted 'partedmagic' again to have another look.

i brought up both 'clonezilla' and 'g4l' and both are very straight
forward in their menus and you should have no problem using either.

understand, i do not claim to be an 'it specialist', such titles where
not know in 70's when i started learning about micro computer systems on
s100 buss.

because micro computers and 'it' were not being taught, i had to order
manuals from manufacturers to learn about the cpu's and assembler language.

so, because i am a lowly micro computer technician, self claimed title,
who builds, services, maintains personal computers, and who design, builds,
services, maintains micro cpu controllers, i will recommend getting a usb
memory stick, install 'partedmagic' on a partition of it, boot it and
decide for yourself which is easier, then use second partition of usb
stick to back your linux system up.

after you get your laptop serviced, reinstall fedora linux from usb stick.

if you want to free up usb stick, use fedora to back 'partedmagic' off usb
stick to a cd. this way you have usb stick for what ever use you want. if
needed,  you can reinstall later to usb stick.


again, my apoligies for confusion. due to pain i was having, i took 2
500 mg hydrocodone tabs and i will contribute that to my further confusing
next to last post last nigh.

i am now off to doctor's office. will check email when i return to see if
you have made any progress.


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Re: Is there a Linux file-safe for Fedora's home file..?

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 04:59 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:

This works if you have a single-user system, but it's not great if you
have a shared machine. I think he's asking for a file vault of some sort
where you can maintain your own home directory as encrypted separate
from the whole filesystem.


I suppose that you could create an encrypted partition and mount it at 
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Re: Why is PackageKit needed for abrt?

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 06:21 AM, mike cloaked wrote:

This may already be inhibiting the provision of some fraction of
important abrt entries? It would be interesting to hear other people's
view on this aspect?


In some cases, that might even be a good thing, IMAO.  As I mentioned in 
another thread, I'm one of over a hundred people who's reported to 
Bugzilla about alacarte crashing every time it starts.  That could be a 
good thing, because it means that there's lots of data available and 
information about how it crashed on various systems, but it's not.  Most 
of the comments simply say, I tried to run it and it crashed, or, It 
crashed, or something similarly uninformative.  I don't know how we can 
get users to do better, but if the amount of data abrt wants to download 
first discourages some of the less communicative users, it may not be 
the worst thing in the world.

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Re: [389-users] How do I configure Solaris 10 as a LDAP client.

2011-12-13 Thread Carsten Grzemba
For SSHA Passwords needs Solaris a proper pam configuration, for SSH especially 
the section :

other   auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
other   auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
other   auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
other   auth binding    pam_unix_auth.so.1 server_policy
other   auth required   pam_ldap.so.1

Because there are some variations in the config between the Solaris versions, 
the best source for the right stack is
# man pam_ldap

Carsten


Am 13.12.11, schrieb Arpit Tolani  arpittol...@gmail.com:
 Below are the configuration i configured, able to see the user in getent 
 passwd output
 see user in ldaplist output.
 
 but cant login. it fails using ssh
 
 bash-3.2# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf |grep -v ^#
 
 passwd: files ldap
 
 group:  files ldap
 hosts: files dns # Added by DHCP
 ipnodes: files dns # Added by DHCP
 networks:   files
 protocols:  files
 rpc:    files
 ethers: files
 netmasks:   files
 bootparams: files
 
 
 publickey:  files
 netgroup:   files
 automount:  files
 aliases:    files
 services:   files
 printers:   user files
 auth_attr:  files
 prof_attr:  files
 project:    files
 tnrhtp: files
 tnrhdb: files
 
 
 
 bash-3.2# cat /etc/pam.conf |grep -v ^#
 login   auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
 login   auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
 login   auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 
 login   auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
 
 login   auth required   pam_dial_auth.so.1
 login   auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
 rlogin  auth sufficient pam_rhosts_auth.so.1
 rlogin  auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
 rlogin  auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
 
 
 rlogin  auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 rlogin  auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
 rlogin  auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
 krlogin auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 krlogin auth required   pam_krb5.so.1
 
 
 rsh auth sufficient pam_rhosts_auth.so.1
 rsh auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 rsh auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
 krsh    auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 krsh    auth required   pam_krb5.so.1
 
 
 ktelnet auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 ktelnet auth required   pam_krb5.so.1
 ppp auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
 ppp auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
 ppp auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 
 
 ppp auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
 ppp auth required   pam_dial_auth.so.1
 ppp auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
 other   auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
 other   auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
 
 
 other   auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 other   auth required   pam_unix_auth.so.1
 other   auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
 passwd  auth required   pam_passwd_auth.so.1
 passwd  auth required   pam_ldap.so.1
 
 
 cron    account required    pam_unix_account.so.1
 other   account sufficient  pam_ldap.so.1
 other   account requisite   pam_roles.so.1
 other   account required    pam_unix_account.so.1
 other   session required    pam_unix_session.so.1
 
 
 other   password required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
 other   password requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
 other   password requisite  pam_authtok_check.so.1 force_check
 other   password required   pam_authtok_store.so.1
 
 
 
 bash-3.2# cat /var/ldap/ldap_client_file
 NS_LDAP_FILE_VERSION= 2.0
 NS_LDAP_SERVERS= 192.168.122.155
 NS_LDAP_SEARCH_BASEDN= dc=example,dc=com
 NS_LDAP_AUTH= simple
 NS_LDAP_SEARCH_REF= TRUE
 NS_LDAP_SEARCH_SCOPE= sub
 
 
 NS_LDAP_SEARCH_TIME= 30
 NS_LDAP_CACHETTL= 43200
 NS_LDAP_PROFILE= default
 NS_LDAP_CREDENTIAL_LEVEL= proxy
 NS_LDAP_SERVICE_SEARCH_DESC= passwd: ou=People,dc=example,dc=com?sub
 NS_LDAP_SERVICE_SEARCH_DESC= group: ou=Groups,dc=example,dc=com?sub
 
 
 NS_LDAP_SERVICE_SEARCH_DESC= shadow: ou=People,dc=example,dc=com?sub
 NS_LDAP_BIND_TIME= 2
 
 bash-3.2# cat /var/ldap/ldap_client_cred
 NS_LDAP_BINDDN=cn=Directory Manager
 NS_LDAP_BINDPASSWD=redhat123
 
 
 
 bash-3.2# /etc/init.d/ldap.client start
 bash-3.2# svcadm enable network/ldap/client 
 bash-3.2# /usr/lib/ldap/ldap_cachemgr -g  
 
 bash-3.2# getent passwd test
 test:x:1001:1001::/home/test:/bin/bash
 
 
 
 bash-3.2# ldaplist -l passwd test
 dn: uid=test,ou=People,dc=example,dc=com
     uidNumber: 1001
     sn: test
     gidNumber: 1001
     loginShell: /usr/bin/bash
     shadowMax: 9
 
     objectClass: person
 
     objectClass: organizationalPerson
     objectClass: inetOrgPerson
     objectClass: posixAccount
     objectClass: shadowAccount
     objectClass: top
     uid: test
     shadowLastChange: 12994
 
 
     cn: test
     homeDirectory: /home/test
     shadowWarning: 7
     userPassword: {SSHA}6qy0z4cffk6tZdbh0IaOSOJgAqlmCq/zCtAX+g==
 

Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-13 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, g wrote:


i am familiar with the dd options of -skip and -seek. just not familiar
with proper way to use dd with cdrecord.

can someone elaborate?


cdrecord can read from a pipe.
The data does not have to be a *.iso file.
dd can get the data back by reading the raw device.

I've burned CDs by cp-ing to the raw device,
but filtering the data through a burner program is probably more reliable.
IIRC I read it back with tar.
Instead of running as root, I changed permissions on the raw device.

OP's simplest solution is probably to use cp
from the raw source disk to a target raw disk.
If reliability is an issue, he can make two copies.
Probably the target could also be a raw USB stick.
Copying entire disks can take a while.

Using a file for a target risks running into file system limitations.
The one that comes to mind is file size limits.

Regardless of how its done,
a cloned drive has the same UUID and partition labels as the original.

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Re: Why is PackageKit needed for abrt?

2011-12-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/13/2011 09:21 AM, mike cloaked wrote:

 
 Indeed so - however it is not unusual for abrt to require pulling in
 several hundred megabytes of debuginfo stuff in order to file a report
 - and I wonder if that might put a significant number of users off and
 abandon completing the report at that point, particularly if they have
 limited bandwidth available for downloads?
 
 This may already be inhibiting the provision of some fraction of
 important abrt entries? It would be interesting to hear other people's
 view on this aspect?

 In my opinion abrtd should not download any debuginfo's on the users
machine - zero. As long as the developers have the debuginfo the
tracebacks are useful - so there's no point in forcing users (devs can
download whatever they need) to download any debugging.

  That said, Alan Cox mentioned in a different thread that there is a
version of abrtd which sends the data to a server (which has all
debuginfo files) to analyze - that is better in my view.

  gene
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Re: Is Fedora good for Java developers?

2011-12-13 Thread fernando
Hi,
 I want to ask if Fedora is good for me a Java developer? I will be
working with Java EE technologies and possibly developing Eclipse  plugins
also.
As a Java developer I like Fedora because of the many java tools and
libraries that are part of the distribution. Fedora Eclipse does not
include the Java EE plugins but I had no problem enabling Eclipse own
update center and installing additional plugins from there, but I'd prefer
to have then as part of Fedora itself so I did not get many duplicated
jars. Each Fedora release brings the current Eclipse IDE for Java
developers and aditional goods. Debian does not include so many Java
libraries and tools as Fedora.

I don't see stability as a problem comparing to Debian, but it depends on
your hardware. Newer hardware gets supported by Fedora before it is by
Debian. From time to time a proprietary software (like skype) has trouble
with Fedora because of lbrary updates, such as when Fedora switched to
PulseAudio, but you can avoid that by not updating to the latest Fedora
release. Fedora also brings newer PostgreSQL and other software compared do
Debian.

For me access to new Features outweights the problems those features
sometimes cause.
[]s, Fernando Lozano


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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 12/13/2011 03:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote:

On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500
Genes MailListsli...@sapience.com  wrote:



   I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI
crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including
things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.


It's not bright in some cases. Just tell it not to. The newest version of
abrt will upload dumps to a server to crunch instead which is a lot more
sociable.


Which file sizes are you talking about?

If these files are getting too big, users with, say GSM or low-bandwidth 
upstream connections may disagree.


At least around here, it's common that a home user's DSL or cable 
connection's upstream bandwidth is a magnitude smaller than his 
downstream bandwidth.


Ralf
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Re: [389-users] How do I configure Solaris 10 as a LDAP client.

2011-12-13 Thread Arpit Tolani
Hie

2011/12/13 Carsten Grzemba grze...@contac-dt.de

 For SSHA Passwords needs Solaris a proper pam configuration, for SSH
 especially the section :

 other   auth requisite  pam_authtok_get.so.1
 other   auth required   pam_dhkeys.so.1
 other   auth required   pam_unix_cred.so.1
 other   auth bindingpam_unix_auth.so.1 server_policy
 other   auth required   pam_ldap.so.1

 Because there are some variations in the config between the Solaris
 versions, the best source for the right stack is
 # man pam_ldap

 Carsten


Thanks, I tried above but didnt worked. I am not much familiar with
Solaris.  any other help will be appreciated.

Thanks  Regards
Arpit Tolani
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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 10:39 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:

At least around here, it's common that a home user's DSL or cable
connection's upstream bandwidth is a magnitude smaller than his
downstream bandwidth.


Yes.  That's why it's correctly called ADSL, with the A standing for 
Asynchronous.  It's almost never an issue for most people, of course, 
because most of the time you're downloading far more data than you're 
uploading.

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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:

  I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI
 crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including
 things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.


  I think abrtd needs help with its decisions ... it appears way too
 naive in the debuginfo files it needs.

  That said - how do I remove it?

  I removed abrt-libs - is that sufficient? Or is there an abrtd daemon
 that somehow needs to be removed ... F15

  thanks

Actually I think that what is needed here is the retrace server - see:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RetraceServer

However at the time when I was using this some time ago around the f15
rc stage there were problems and I don't know what the current status
is for this facility?

If anyone knows whether it is now up and running it would be really valuable.

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Yum problem

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff
My desktop is now out of the ICU, but it's still not running the way it 
should.  At best, it's convalescent.  One of the problems is that unless 
I use --releasever=16 I can't update my system, even though 
/etc/fedora-release has the correct value.  This might be because all of 
my repos are still for Fedora 14 as the response to yum repolist shows:


repo id   repo name 
  status
adobe-linux-i386  Adobe Systems Incorporated 
  17
fedoraFedora 14 - i386 
  17,883
fedora-xfce-4.8   Xfce 4.8 for Fedora, see 
https://fedoraproject.144
livna rpm.livna.org for 14 - i386 
   3
rpmfusion-freeRPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free 
 364
rpmfusion-free-updatesRPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Updates 
   1,050
rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Nonfree 
 176
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Nonfree - Updates 
 548
updates   Fedora 14 - i386 - Updates 
   7,988

repolist: 28,173

Does anybody know how to correct this without reinstalling from scratch?
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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:04 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:

  I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI
 crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including
 things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.


  I think abrtd needs help with its decisions ... it appears way too
 naive in the debuginfo files it needs.

  That said - how do I remove it?

  I removed abrt-libs - is that sufficient? Or is there an abrtd daemon
 that somehow needs to be removed ... F15

  thanks

 Actually I think that what is needed here is the retrace server - see:

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RetraceServer

 However at the time when I was using this some time ago around the f15
 rc stage there were problems and I don't know what the current status
 is for this facility?

 If anyone knows whether it is now up and running it would be really valuable.

In f16 it seems to be available as a package: yum info abrt-retrace-client

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Re: Yum problem

2011-12-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.12.2011 21:06, schrieb Joe Zeff:
 My desktop is now out of the ICU, but it's still not running the way it 
 should.  At best, it's convalescent.  One
 of the problems is that unless I use --releasever=16 I can't update my 
 system, even though /etc/fedora-release has
 the correct value.  This might be because all of my repos are still for 
 Fedora 14 as the response to yum repolist
 shows:
 
 repo id   repo name   status
 adobe-linux-i386  Adobe Systems Incorporated   17
 fedoraFedora 14 - i386   17,883
 fedora-xfce-4.8   Xfce 4.8 for Fedora, see https://fedoraproject.
 144
 livna rpm.livna.org for 14 - i3863
 rpmfusion-freeRPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free  364
 rpmfusion-free-updatesRPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Free - Updates1,050
 rpmfusion-nonfree RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Nonfree  176
 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 14 - Nonfree - Updates  
 548
 updates   Fedora 14 - i386 - Updates7,988
 repolist: 28,173
 
 Does anybody know how to correct this without reinstalling from scratch?

sounds like something is messed by an interrupted upgrade
however yum --releasever=16 reinstall fedora-release should fix the 
version-problem

after that package-cleanup --dupes and package-cleanup --problems are
highly recommended

package-cleanup --cleandupes should help fix problems of an interrupted
upgrade, but be carfeul what it likes to do

i had such issues once after a power-outage while dist-upgrade
machine could be started with the old kernel, fnish the upgrade and
package-cleanup helped to really cleanup the installation which lived
the next two dist-upgrades until the machine was replaced



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Help! Gnome-Shell segfault.

2011-12-13 Thread Arthur Dent
Hello all,

Urgent help required!

I have turned on my Fedora 16 machine today. It booted quite normally to the
GDM login screen. When I selected one of my 3 users it started to login to the 
account as usual, but got no further than loading the background. I 
CTRL-ALT-BKSPC'd back to the login screen and tried each of the other accounts. 
Same problem. I can start a terminal session with CTRL-ALT-F2 and login to any 
user account in that terminal - and it is from there that I am sending this 
(using Mutt). I have tried googling using a text based browser, (but that is 
quite hard work) and all I have come up with is this bugzilla 
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=753666 which describes my symptoms 
perfectly (I am also using the nvidia akmod driver) but there is no resolution 
for me in that bugzilla.

Unlike that report I have updated nothing since Sunday (11 December) and it
worked fine yesterday (12 December). Here is an extract from dmesg:

[   39.204161] gnome-shell[1458]: segfault at bc955315 ip 42325db4 sp bfadd520
error 6 in ld-2.14.90.so[42319000+21000]

Below I list a (long) extract form /var/log/messages. There is some very fishy
looking stuff in that, but I have no idea how to fix it. Please help me to get
back to a working gnome-shell!

Thanks

Mark

/var/log/messages:
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): GdmSignalHandler:
Registering for 2 signals
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Getting
session 'gdm-shell'
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/var/lib/gdm/.config/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session is a valid
session file
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): Cannot use session
'/var/lib/gdm/.config/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session': non-existing
or invalid file.
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/etc/xdg/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session is a valid session file
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): Cannot use session
'/etc/xdg/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session': non-existing or invalid
file.
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/usr/share/gdm/greeter/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session is a valid
session file
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): Cannot use session
'/usr/share/gdm/greeter/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session':
non-existing or invalid file.
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/usr/local/share/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session is a valid session
file
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): Cannot use session
'/usr/local/share/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session': non-existing or
invalid file.
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session is a valid session file
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Launching
helper 'bash -c 'gnome-shell --help | grep -q gdm-mode 
/usr/libexec/gnome-session-check-accelerated'' to know if session is runnable
Dec 13 20:11:54 localhost kernel: [   39.204161] gnome-shell[1458]: segfault
at bc955315 ip 42325db4 sp bfadd520 error 6 in ld-2.14.90.so[42319000+21000]
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost abrtd: Directory 'ccpp-2011-12-13-20:11:54-1458'
creation detected
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost abrt[1460]: Saved core dump of pid 1458
(/usr/bin/gnome-shell) to /var/spool/abrt/ccpp-2011-12-13-20:11:54-1458
(33652736 bytes)
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: WARNING: Session 'gdm-shell'
runnable check failed: Exited with code 1
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Session is
not runnable
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Getting
session 'gdm-fallback'
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/var/lib/gdm/.config/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-fallback.session is a valid
session file
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): Cannot use session
'/var/lib/gdm/.config/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-fallback.session':
non-existing or invalid file.
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/etc/xdg/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-fallback.session is a valid session file
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): Cannot use session
'/etc/xdg/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-fallback.session': non-existing or
invalid file.
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if
/usr/share/gdm/greeter/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-fallback.session is a valid
session file
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): Cannot use session
'/usr/share/gdm/greeter/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-fallback.session':
non-existing or invalid file.
Dec 13 20:11:55 localhost gnome-session[1452]: DEBUG(+): fill: *** Looking if

Re: Yum problem

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 12:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

sounds like something is messed by an interrupted upgrade
however yum --releasever=16 reinstall fedora-release should fix the 
version-problem



Thanx!  That got the repolist straight.


after that package-cleanup --dupes and package-cleanup --problems are
highly recommended

package-cleanup --cleandupes should help fix problems of an interrupted
upgrade, but be carfeul what it likes to do


I'd already tried that, with --releasever=16, but cleandupes failed 
because at least one of the dupes was needed.  Is there a way to tell it 
to skip broken?  And, with --problems, all it did was tell me what needs 
to be done; it doesn't suggest how to do it.  Still, I can do that and 
capture the data via tee, so it's not a complete waste.

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Re: Yum problem

2011-12-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.12.2011 21:52, schrieb Joe Zeff:
 On 12/13/2011 12:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 sounds like something is messed by an interrupted upgrade
 however yum --releasever=16 reinstall fedora-release should fix the 
 version-problem

 
 Thanx!  That got the repolist straight.
 
 after that package-cleanup --dupes and package-cleanup --problems are
 highly recommended

 package-cleanup --cleandupes should help fix problems of an interrupted
 upgrade, but be carfeul what it likes to do
 
 I'd already tried that, with --releasever=16, but cleandupes failed because 
 at least one of the dupes was needed. 
 Is there a way to tell it to skip broken?  

not really

look what package it is and figure out if it is critical for the OS himself 
(ssl, yum, python)
if not rpm -e --nodpes the dupe and yum reinstall for the correct version 
to make
sure it is really clean installed

if you are totally unsure install smaba with a root account
i had a case where i cleaned up a critical package and after that rpm/yum
was killed, but firefox did run as long it was not stopped - sreached was the
package contained (http://rpm.pbone.net/) and copied the files from another 
machine
back - yeah this is dirty, but the machine was my first linux-only one and lived
from FC5 to F13 (notebook9 after some of such bullshit-actions of me :-)

that is why i say never ever reinstall instead upgrade
i did not see any fedora-installation in my life which could not be upgraded in 
any way :-)




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Re: Yum problem

2011-12-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.12.2011 21:52, schrieb Joe Zeff:
 On 12/13/2011 12:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 sounds like something is messed by an interrupted upgrade
 however yum --releasever=16 reinstall fedora-release should fix the 
 version-problem

 
 Thanx!  That got the repolist straight.
 
 after that package-cleanup --dupes and package-cleanup --problems are
 highly recommended

 package-cleanup --cleandupes should help fix problems of an interrupted
 upgrade, but be carfeul what it likes to do
 
 I'd already tried that, with --releasever=16, but cleandupes failed because 
 at least one of the dupes was needed. 
 Is there a way to tell it to skip broken?  And, with --problems, all it did 
 was tell me what needs to be done; it
 doesn't suggest how to do it.  Still, I can do that and capture the data via 
 tee, so it's not a complete waste.

Forgotten:

Look for which Application the dep ist needed, try to remove the 
application+dep, cleanup
the dupes and finally install the application again which will pull the deps 
again

watch out for any rpmsave configurations while remove packages for such
cleanups and rename them back, so the new versions will installed as rpnew
finally instead get lost your manually changed configs



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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:07 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 8:04 PM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Genes MailLists li...@sapience.com wrote:

  I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI
 crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including
 things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.


  I think abrtd needs help with its decisions ... it appears way too
 naive in the debuginfo files it needs.

 Actually I think that what is needed here is the retrace server - see:

 http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/RetraceServer

 However at the time when I was using this some time ago around the f15
 rc stage there were problems and I don't know what the current status
 is for this facility?

 If anyone knows whether it is now up and running it would be really valuable.

 In f16 it seems to be available as a package: yum info abrt-retrace-client

It seems that this facility is not available for f15 unfortunately so
you need to be on f16 at least to have this package available in the
normal repos.
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Re: Fedora causes laptop to overheat

2011-12-13 Thread Christopher Svanefalk
UPDATE:

I changed my web browser away from Epiphany, and this had a radical impact
- system runs much cooler.

Also, try hdparm -B 1 /dev/sd* (or be specific which discs you want to
power down).

Using powertop could also help.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2011 at 6:10 PM, g gel...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 On 12/12/2011 01:59 PM, Patrick Lists wrote:
  On 12-12-11 06:18, g wrote:
  if you had done such while still using the radeon driver, it would have
  been interesting to know before and after. plus, knowing temp between
  recent and last time of cleaning could give you an idea of how often you
  need to do such.
 
  Did that. No change between before and after. The temperature still was
  high. Admittedly the fans etc were quite clean.
 -=-

 ok.


  as above, if catalyst drivers do not let you monitor, how do you know
  it is better? :-)
 
  No more lockups and the fans hardly run. With radeon I had lockups and
  the fans would run fast.
 -=-

 ok. all interesting information.

 i am considering getting a laptop for my next system and such problems
 are among my concern.

 i have not decided which make/model, but any and all potential problems
 i can solve or find solutions for now will help to enjoy life more. ;)


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Re: Yum problem

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 01:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

if you are totally unsure install smaba with a root account


Are you sure you didn't mean samba?  If so, I'd not have any use for it 
because I run a Windows-free LAN, except for my sister's laptop, and I 
never need to connect to it.  If you're thinking about moving files from 
one box to another, I can either do that from my laptop by ftp over ssh 
or, if all else fails, by sneakernet.

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Re: Yum problem

2011-12-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 13.12.2011 22:45, schrieb Joe Zeff:
 On 12/13/2011 01:03 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 if you are totally unsure install smaba with a root account
 
 Are you sure you didn't mean samba?  If so, I'd not have any use for it 
 because I run a Windows-free LAN, except
 for my sister's laptop, and I never need to connect to it.  If you're 
 thinking about moving files from one box to
 another, I can either do that from my laptop by ftp over ssh or, if all else 
 fails, by sneakernet.

yes, i meant samba

in my case the problem was that sftp/ssh did no longer accept connections
samba was the only long-running process which did accept connections
while some basic libraries was damaged, but yes this is a rare case
and a live-cd boot can do the same, it was some years ago and this
time i was happy to repair the installation until ssh worked again

but if you not have samba installed forget it, useless overhead

normally a yum remove should show the list of removd packages
to make sure if a temporary rpm -e --nodeps is possible



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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Alan Cox

  It's not bright in some cases. Just tell it not to. The newest version of
  abrt will upload dumps to a server to crunch instead which is a lot more
  sociable.
 
 Which file sizes are you talking about?

Depends what crashes - but probably of the order of 1,000 times less than
a big set of debug packages

 If these files are getting too big, users with, say GSM or low-bandwidth 
 upstream connections may disagree.

Thats what the cancel button is for.

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systemd: wait for shutdown-service to complete

2011-12-13 Thread Reindl Harald
hi

i am trying to suspend / start my VMware-Workstation machines automatically
below my systemd-unit and the two shell-scripts
start works like a charme (yes i use a seperated user for VM's)

shutdown works on a machine with one small VM
on my homeserver i see that it is executed (script output)
but systemd does not wait until all machines are compleltly suspended
seeing boot-messages and partially fscheck in the guests

has anybody an idea how i can make sure that systemd waits to finish
/scripts/vmware/vm-suspend-all.sh before shutdown the next process
(in this case vmware.service)  and finally the system?

yes, the suspend script called directly works fine, adn yes it would be
possible to call the script manually before reboot/shtdown but i like
systems which works perfectly at boot/shutdown without manual interaction

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/systemd/system/vmware-default.service
[Unit]
Description=VMware-Default-Machines
After=vmware.service
[Service]
Type=oneshot
ExecStart=/bin/su -c /scripts/vmware/vm-default-start.sh vmware
ExecStop=/scripts/vmware/vm-suspend-all.sh
RemainAfterExit=yes
[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target


[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /scripts/vmware/vm-default-start.sh
#!/bin/bash
if [ $HOSTNAME == srv-rhsoft.rhsoft.net ]; then
 /usr/bin/vmrun -T ws start '/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/arrakis/arrakis.vmx' 
nogui
 /usr/bin/vmrun -T ws start '/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/testserver/config.vmx' 
nogui
 /usr/bin/vmrun -T ws start 
'/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/Buildserver32/config.vmx' nogui
 /usr/bin/vmrun -T ws start 
'/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/Buildserver64/config.vmx' nogui
 /usr/bin/vmrun -T ws start '/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/centos/centos.vmx' 
nogui
fi
if [ $HOSTNAME == rh.thelounge.net ]; then
 /usr/bin/vmrun -T ws start 
'/mnt/data/fileserver/vmware/backup-flow/config.vmx' nogui
fi


[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /scripts/vmware/vm-suspend-all.sh
#!/bin/bash
if [ -x /usr/bin/vmrun ] ; then
 for i in `pidof vmware-vmx` ; do
  VMX_PATH=`ps -p $i -f | sed -ne '/vmware/s/.* \(\/.*\.vmx\)/\1/p'`
  MY_DATE=$(/bin/date +%d-%m-%Y)
  MY_TIME=$(/bin/date +%H:%M:%S)
  echo $MY_DATE $MY_TIME  SUSPEND: $VMX_PATH
  /usr/bin/logger -t vmware SUSPEND: $VMX_PATH
  /usr/bin/vmrun suspend `ps -p $i -f | sed -ne '/vmware/s/.* 
\(\/.*\.vmx\)/\1/p'` 2 /dev/null
  MY_DATE=$(/bin/date +%d-%m-%Y)
  MY_TIME=$(/bin/date +%H:%M:%S)
  echo $MY_DATE $MY_TIME  SUSPENDED: $VMX_PATH
  /usr/bin/logger -t vmware SUSPENDED: $VMX_PATH
 done
fi



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f16 - Can't view Sansa PMP folders

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz
I have a Sansa PMP (I would have to look up the invoice to see what 
model, as it doesn't say on or 'in' the unit).  Back on f14, sometimes I 
could and sometimes I could not view the folders on the internal and SD 
memory and move files.  So far in f16, it is polling the folders, but no 
directories get mounted.  I am seeing these messages in /var/log/messages:


Dec 13 17:09:34 lx120e kernel: [116160.874082] usb 1-1: new high speed 
USB device number 27 using ehci_hcd
Dec 13 17:09:34 lx120e kernel: [116160.992934] usb 1-1: New USB device 
found, idVendor=0781, idProduct=7480
Dec 13 17:09:34 lx120e kernel: [116160.992950] usb 1-1: New USB device 
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3

Dec 13 17:09:34 lx120e kernel: [116160.992961] usb 1-1: Product: Sansa PMP
Dec 13 17:09:34 lx120e kernel: [116160.992969] usb 1-1: Manufacturer: 
SanDisk
Dec 13 17:09:34 lx120e kernel: [116160.992976] usb 1-1: SerialNumber: 
003510645f4d9cfc9337030078f7
Dec 13 17:09:43 lx120e kernel: [116169.657082] usb 1-1: usbfs: process 
17253 (gvfsd-gphoto2) did not claim interface 0 before use
Dec 13 17:09:43 lx120e kernel: [116169.657120] usb 1-1: usbfs: process 
17253 (gvfsd-gphoto2) did not claim interface 0 before use
Dec 13 17:09:43 lx120e kernel: [116169.657141] usb 1-1: usbfs: process 
17253 (gvfsd-gphoto2) did not claim interface 0 before use
Dec 13 17:09:43 lx120e kernel: [116169.657158] usb 1-1: usbfs: process 
17253 (gvfsd-gphoto2) did not claim interface 0 before use
Dec 13 17:09:43 lx120e kernel: [116169.657175] usb 1-1: usbfs: process 
17253 (gvfsd-gphoto2) did not claim interface 0 before use
Dec 13 17:09:43 lx120e kernel: [116169.657190] usb 1-1: usbfs: process 
17253 (gvfsd-gphoto2) did not claim interface 0 before use



How can I get this working?


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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Tom Horsley
  Which file sizes are you talking about?
 
 Depends what crashes - but probably of the order of 1,000 times less than
 a big set of debug packages

I can think of a couple of ways to improve things:

1. Separate out the debuginfo rpms into a zillion independent
rpms with one and only one library per rpm. That way instead
of downloading the entire glibc-debuginfo, abrt could download
just the debuginfo for libraries that appear in the stack
walkback (wouldn't even need all the libraries which were in the
process, but only the ones required to dig up a backtrace).
Bonus points for separating the source files from the object
files as well (don't need the source files to generate a
backtrace).

2. Make the retrace server actually be a remote debugger. Instead
of downloading the entire core file, it would just peek at the
bits of it needed to generate the backtrace.
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F14 error messages re sdc7--is disk sdc going bad?

2011-12-13 Thread jackson byers
 F14 error messages re sdc7--is disk sdc going bad?

** working system is F14usb8  on usb external disk, sda8.
** problem system is F14sdc7, on scsi internal disk, sdc7,
   which is a backup copy of F14usb8.

I have been unable to login to F14sdc7.
Until recently booting F14sdc7 otherwise looked normal.

But now getting various error messages in sdc7.


 From F14usb8 have run 'e2fsck /dev/sdc7'
 [sdc7 unmounted] numerous times,
always ends with 'recovery complete'.


 As seen from F14usb8:
[root@f14 log]# pwd
/mnt/sdc7/var/log
[root@f14 log]# grep -n sdc7 messages


16992:Dec 13 10:38:48 f14 kernel: [   22.496626] EXT3-fs (sdc7):
mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
16993:Dec 13 10:38:48 f14 kernel: [   22.544323] dracut: Mounted root
filesystem /dev/sdc7
17029:Dec 13 10:38:48 f14 kernel: [   30.727043] EXT3-fs (sdc7): using
internal journal
17191:Dec 13 10:39:02 f14 kernel: [   46.774296] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039765
17192:Dec 13 10:39:02 f14 kernel: [   47.081321] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039765
17193:Dec 13 10:39:02 f14 kernel: [   47.110862] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039765
17194:Dec 13 10:39:03 f14 kernel: [   47.187446] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039765

...

17216:Dec 13 10:39:17 f14 kernel: [   61.756856] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039773
17217:Dec 13 10:42:19 f14 kernel: [  243.981616] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039776
17218:Dec 13 10:42:19 f14 kernel: [  243.988056] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039776

.

17603:Dec 13 10:43:17 f14 kernel: [  301.406148] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039774
17604:Dec 13 10:43:21 f14 kernel: [  305.406282] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039774
17605:Dec 13 10:43:25 f14 kernel: [  309.405445] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039774
117603:Dec 13 10:43:17 f14 kernel: [  301.406148] EXT3-fs error
(device sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039774
17604:Dec 13 10:43:21 f14 kernel: [  305.406282] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039774
17605:Dec 13 10:43:25 f14 kernel: [  309.405445] EXT3-fs error (device
sdc7): ext3_lookup: deleted inode referenced: 1039774

...

Is this evidence that the sdc disk is going bad?
Or maybe something else is wrong with just the one partition sdc7?


Also, I just recently used 'selinux=0' on the F14sdc7 kernel line;
but I was having plenty of sdc7 trouble before that, when using 'enforcing=0',
and before that with SELinux using enforcing,targeted.


I need help.

Jack
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Re: abrtd - how to remove

2011-12-13 Thread Genes MailLists
On 12/13/2011 01:39 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
 On 12/13/2011 03:26 PM, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 07:57:54 -0500
 Genes MailListsli...@sapience.com  wrote:


I just had the lovely experience of abrt trying to be helpful - a GUI
 crash - and wanting to download 1.2 GB of debuginfo files including
 things it quite obviously (to a human) does not need.

 It's not bright in some cases. Just tell it not to. The newest version of
 abrt will upload dumps to a server to crunch instead which is a lot more
 sociable.
 
 Which file sizes are you talking about?
 
 If these files are getting too big, users with, say GSM or low-bandwidth
 upstream connections may disagree.
 
 At least around here, it's common that a home user's DSL or cable
 connection's upstream bandwidth is a magnitude smaller than his
 downstream bandwidth.
 
 Ralf

  The files which are costly are the debuginfo packages.

  So, the traceback file is only a few KB - while the debuginfo is more
like 1.2 GB (in my case) ... so 3 orders of magnitude larger .. so even
if your upload is 10 times slower you're still 100 times better off.

  Plus - whatever data caps are in play (mobile broadband) will be more
impacted by the GB download than the small 1k upload upload ...


  gene/
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Re: Is there a Linux file-safe for Fedora's home file..?

2011-12-13 Thread Cameron Simpson
On 13Dec2011 09:51, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote:
| On 12/13/2011 04:59 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote:
| This works if you have a single-user system, but it's not great if you
| have a shared machine. I think he's asking for a file vault of some sort
| where you can maintain your own home directory as encrypted separate
| from the whole filesystem.
| 
| I suppose that you could create an encrypted partition and mount it
| at /home/$USER, so that that user's files are encrypted but not
| anybody else's.

That would be the way, but it creates something of a partitioning
problem, both in that it doesn't scale and that if your system is
already partitioned you can't do it at that point.

But using the same general idea one could make a sparse filesystem image:
make a nice big sparse file, attach it as an encrypted partition (I'm
imagining LVM and/or dm is the right tool), mkfs, mount.

Someone who knows the commands to make an encrypte filesystem and to use
LVM or the device mapper stuff to map a file to a mountable device
should be able to fill in the gaps.

That should get you I/O behavour much more efficient that FUSE based
methods.

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Re: Is there a Linux file-safe for Fedora's home file..?

2011-12-13 Thread Steven Stern
On 12/12/2011 09:10 PM, Linda McLeod wrote:
 
 Is there a super secure way to lock Home File with an encrypted
 password..?
 
 Is there anything in Linux that locks a file behind a tier or key of
 passwords..?
 

This looks like it will do what you want:

http://www.rootninja.com/how-to-use-ecryptfs-on-fedora/

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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk ... additional question

2011-12-13 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 12/12/2011 11:13 PM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

Perhaps the best option to look at it.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/#screenshots


Michael:

Much better, thanks for the additional info

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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk ... additional question

2011-12-13 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 12/13/2011 5:22 AM, John Aldrich wrote:

Quoting Michael D. Setzer II mi...@kuentos.guam.net:


Perhaps the best option to look at it.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/

http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/#screenshots



Let me say I have used G4L at a previous employer to do backups of 
machines, etc and it's VERY easy to use and pretty much my default 
program. I had problems figuring out CloneZilla and I'm an IT specialist!


John:

Point taken and will bear in mind as I go through the info

Thanks,
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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk ... additional question

2011-12-13 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 12/13/2011 5:42 AM, Matthew J. Roth wrote:


Paul,

My advice is to keep it simple.  Burn the Clonezilla Live¹ ISO to a
CD/DVD and use it to save an image of the current hard drive to the
USB drive.  Step-by-step directions for saving and restoring the
image² are provided.

I've been following this thread and you're getting a lot of good
advice, but simplicity and reliability are key when dealing with
backups.  In my opinion, Clonezilla Live is very easy to use and it
will just work for your task.

¹ Clonezilla live: http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live.php
² Clonezilla - Live Doc: http://clonezilla.org/clonezilla-live-doc.php

Regards,

Matthew Roth
InterMedia Marketing Solutions
Software Engineer and Systems Developer


Matthew:

Thanks ... my postings should indicate that I really like simple and 
your suggestion is the one I am currently considering. I want to check 
out G4L now that I have better doc material, but if Clonezilla is as 
easy as most people say I am still leaning to it.


Yes, there has been alot of good advice and I really appreciate all the 
suggestions and options. I like it when posts to this list prove this 
fruitful


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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-13 Thread Paul Allen Newell

On 12/13/2011 9:27 AM, g wrote:


back to the begining. thread has gotten so long, this is easier than
finding my post that i know caused you more confusion.


in that post, i stated to install 'partedmagic' on a usb stick;

   http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=creating_the_liveusb

and add 'g4l' by pulling files, or as a second boot. *not needed*.


my bad. to correct, 'partedmagic' has both 'clonezilla' and 'g4l' on
it so there is no need to install it a second time.

as i recall posting;

   http://partedmagic.com/doku.php

in 'programs' page;

   http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=programs

shows 'clonezilla';

   http://clonezilla.org/

listed, but does not list 'g4l';

   http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/

it is there, because when i rebooted after my last email to thread last
night, i booted 'partedmagic' again to have another look.

i brought up both 'clonezilla' and 'g4l' and both are very straight
forward in their menus and you should have no problem using either.

understand, i do not claim to be an 'it specialist', such titles where
not know in 70's when i started learning about micro computer systems on
s100 buss.

because micro computers and 'it' were not being taught, i had to order
manuals from manufacturers to learn about the cpu's and assembler language.

so, because i am a lowly micro computer technician, self claimed title,
who builds, services, maintains personal computers, and who design, builds,
services, maintains micro cpu controllers, i will recommend getting a usb
memory stick, install 'partedmagic' on a partition of it, boot it and
decide for yourself which is easier, then use second partition of usb
stick to back your linux system up.

after you get your laptop serviced, reinstall fedora linux from usb stick.

if you want to free up usb stick, use fedora to back 'partedmagic' off usb
stick to a cd. this way you have usb stick for what ever use you want. if
needed,  you can reinstall later to usb stick.


again, my apoligies for confusion. due to pain i was having, i took 2
500 mg hydrocodone tabs and i will contribute that to my further confusing
next to last post last nigh.

i am now off to doctor's office. will check email when i return to see if
you have made any progress.


much luck.



G:

Sorry to hear about the need for hydrocodone and understand they may 
have contributed to some of my confusion ... hope you get better.


I've got alot of good info and at least two options. Right now, I need 
to get the stick et al to do the work. That may take a couple days as I 
am in process of dealing with roof damage from those high winds in SoCal 
(my roof could use some of your pills)


My estimate is that I will have materials in a day or two and then 
another day or two to finish up checking out all the suggestions I've 
got. I am estimating that I'll test one or both over the weekend.


So assume that I've got enough info and just need to actually drive one 
of them. The forthcoming null in getting back to the list with 
[SOLVED:] (I hope) is not for lack of interest or not caring about 
about the help I've gotten. Its just that there is life outside of 
computers, though I'll take fretting over my laptop to roofing contractors.


Thanks to you and everyone else who helped,
Paul

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Re: F14 error messages re sdc7--is disk sdc going bad?

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 03:14 PM, jackson byers wrote:

   From F14usb8 have run 'e2fsck /dev/sdc7'
  [sdc7 unmounted] numerous times,
always ends with 'recovery complete'.


When you do, does it report that it's fixed anything?  If not, running 
it repeatedly isn't going to do anything more.  However, you might 
consider using the -c option to find and mark any bad blocks.

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Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but... Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

2011-12-13 Thread Linda McLeod

Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but...

Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

From:
Michael Schwendt mschwe...@gmail.com 


Rather than getting rude and flaming Harald, who is a knowledgeable
subscriber of this list (and it may be helpful to have available such
subscribers on this list eventually), it could turn out to be much more
productive for you, if you spent some time on explaining what threats
you believe you're exposed to with your machine and what makes you think
that you need to reinstall frequently due to damage done to your system
by strangers (either remotely or with physical access to your
machine?).





I'm doing it the only way I know how to do it in forums..  Harald should
have flushed his nasty post, before posting it..  Harald may be a wise
one, but he doesn't need to bully us little bugs, just cuz we happen to
be in his way the moment..  If he confronts something he doesn't like,
he always has the option of looking the other way, at something he does
like.. If he doesn't like me, then he can just forget me.. he shouldn't
read my stupid posts if they gives him a headache or pisses him off...
Not everything in the thread is for him...

As far as properly detailing what's happning to my machine, I think I
have detailed it as much as words can say it..  what parts of, crazy
people are targeting and torturing my life, can't you understand sir..?

I know what I need, given that this torture isn't gonna just go away by
itself..  Seems I'm doomed to be their toy to break, unless something
big happens to wake them hell-hounds up to love and reality, soon.. I
needs a way to make a bootable install CDR of the Fedora system,
exactly the way I've customized it, so that all I needs do is DBAN a
corrupt hd, and install the OS with just a few mowse clicks, hopes I.. 
I've tried and tried and tried to make that custom iso, but it always
messes up..? as in never works..  If I had that CD, I wouldn't give a
flyin'thht if the kooks damaged this crapper internet box's OS.. I'd
probably DBAN the hd, and reinstall a new fully loaded fedora every
couple weeks.. Heck! if I could, I'd set it to automatically DBAN
itself, and reinstall F-14, every Monday morning, without it needing to
be net-connected.. so than the g'rillas wouldn't get in, to mess it up,
to get their precious wet's and tinglies bullying innocents...




No, I haven't tried F-16 for testing its screensaver slideshow time
period..
I'm a little gun-shy, after trying F-15, WhooH!  YikerS!.. It was a
nightmare in the least..  Please tell, is F-16 a good stable OS, and not
as scary as F-15 is..?

As far as the specks on my machines..  They aren't here.. but they are
absolute crap at best..  I get my computers from garage sales, the dump,
and from the spring cleanup when people put their hard trash out at the
curb that week..  I don't know what it's like to have a real computer..
but I'm bets it's a lot faster than these four pieces of garbage
combined...


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Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but... Re: RE: F14 login fails on backup copy; gdm error?

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 05:03 PM, Linda McLeod wrote:

As far as properly detailing what's happning to my machine, I think I
have detailed it as much as words can say it..  what parts of, crazy
people are targeting and torturing my life, can't you understand sir..?


Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.  What evidence do you 
have that strangers have targeted your machine and repeatedly trashed 
it?  What have you done to make your computer either an easier or harder 
target?  Have you disabled either your firewall or SELinux, and if so, 
why?  Do you have the ssh daemon active and if so, do you allow root 
logins?  Enquiring minds want to *KNOW!*

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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-13 Thread g
On 12/14/2011 12:09 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
 On 12/13/2011 9:27 AM, g wrote:
 back to the begining. thread has gotten so long, this is easier than
 finding my post that i know caused you more confusion.


 in that post, i stated to install 'partedmagic' on a usb stick;

http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=creating_the_liveusb

 and add 'g4l' by pulling files, or as a second boot. *not needed*.


 my bad. to correct, 'partedmagic' has both 'clonezilla' and 'g4l' on
 it so there is no need to install it a second time.

 as i recall posting;

http://partedmagic.com/doku.php

 in 'programs' page;

http://partedmagic.com/doku.php?id=programs

 shows 'clonezilla';

http://clonezilla.org/

 listed, but does not list 'g4l';

http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/

 it is there, because when i rebooted after my last email to thread last
 night, i booted 'partedmagic' again to have another look.

 i brought up both 'clonezilla' and 'g4l' and both are very straight
 forward in their menus and you should have no problem using either.

 understand, i do not claim to be an 'it specialist', such titles where
 not know in 70's when i started learning about micro computer systems on
 s100 buss.

 because micro computers and 'it' were not being taught, i had to order
 manuals from manufacturers to learn about the cpu's and assembler language.

 so, because i am a lowly micro computer technician, self claimed title,
 who builds, services, maintains personal computers, and who design, builds,
 services, maintains micro cpu controllers, i will recommend getting a usb
 memory stick, install 'partedmagic' on a partition of it, boot it and
 decide for yourself which is easier, then use second partition of usb
 stick to back your linux system up.

 after you get your laptop serviced, reinstall fedora linux from usb stick.

 if you want to free up usb stick, use fedora to back 'partedmagic' off usb
 stick to a cd. this way you have usb stick for what ever use you want. if
 needed,  you can reinstall later to usb stick.


 again, my apoligies for confusion. due to pain i was having, i took 2
 500 mg hydrocodone tabs and i will contribute that to my further confusing
 next to last post last nigh.

 i am now off to doctor's office. will check email when i return to see if
 you have made any progress.


 much luck.

 


 G:
 
 Sorry to hear about the need for hydrocodone and understand they may
 have contributed to some of my confusion
-=-

thank you.

my first time with hydrocodone and will not double up again. but it
was nice. %-)

 hope you get better.
-=-

time heals all wounds. just do not ask how i got this one. :-)
i will say i will never do it again.

 I've got alot of good info and at least two options. Right now, I need 
 to get the stick et al to do the work.
-=-

with you giving it thought, i am sure you will end up with what is best
and easiest for you.

 That may take a couple days as I am in process of dealing with roof damage
 from those high winds in SoCal (my roof could use some of your pills)
 
 My estimate is that I will have materials in a day or two
-=-

from what i saw on local news, i can only imagine what you have to deal
with with your roof. as for what has to be done, i have an idea. my first
and only roofing work was covering a double gable roof i put on my 12x16
'yard barn' i built. it took me 4 days, but it is straight and all in line.
i even tared down each shingle to protect against high winds.

 another day or two to finish up checking out all the suggestions I've
 got. I am estimating that I'll test one or both over the weekend.
 
 So assume that I've got enough info and just need to actually drive one
 of them. The forthcoming null in getting back to the list with
 [SOLVED:] (I hope) is not for lack of interest or not caring about
 about the help I've gotten. Its just that there is life outside of
 computers, though I'll take fretting over my laptop to roofing contractors.
-=-

it is understandable that you will be delayed due to roof.

just keep a plastic sheet handy for computer in case it rains before
roof gets fixed. ;)


 Thanks to you and everyone else who helped,
-=-

it has been my pleasure and i hope that all goes well with both roof
and computer.

just remember the 6 p's;

  proper planing prevents piss poor performance.


looking forward to [SOLVED:].


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FATAL: shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory

2011-12-13 Thread CS DBA

Hi All;

I just installed Fedora 16, I was running fedora 14.

I installed Postgresql from source and set SHMMAX to 2198066816

I set postgres to use 2GB for shared_buffers and I get this when I try 
to start:


FATAL:  shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory

The only real difference from Fedora 14 is that on Fedora 16 I'm using 
the PAE kernel


Thoughts?


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Re: FATAL: shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory

2011-12-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.12.2011 02:45, schrieb CS DBA:
 Hi All;
 
 I just installed Fedora 16, I was running fedora 14.
 
 I installed Postgresql from source and set SHMMAX to 2198066816
 
 I set postgres to use 2GB for shared_buffers and I get this when I try to 
 start:
 
 FATAL:  shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory
 
 The only real difference from Fedora 14 is that on Fedora 16 I'm using the 
 PAE kernel
 Thoughts?

/etc/sysctl.conf - kernel.shmall




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Re: FATAL: shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory

2011-12-13 Thread CS DBA

On 12/13/2011 06:51 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 14.12.2011 02:45, schrieb CS DBA:

Hi All;

I just installed Fedora 16, I was running fedora 14.

I installed Postgresql from source and set SHMMAX to 2198066816

I set postgres to use 2GB for shared_buffers and I get this when I try to start:

FATAL:  shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory

The only real difference from Fedora 14 is that on Fedora 16 I'm using the PAE 
kernel
Thoughts?

/etc/sysctl.conf -  kernel.shmall






I set shmall to the same as shmmax, it didnt help


root@Issac # sysctl -a | grep -i shm
kernel.shmmax = 2198066816
kernel.shmall = 2198066816
kernel.shmmni = 4096
kernel.shm_rmid_forced = 0
vm.hugetlb_shm_group = 0


I have 8GB of ram and I'm using the following kernel:
 # uname -a
Linux Issac.consistentstate.com 3.1.5-1.fc16.i686.PAE #1 SMP Fri Dec 9 
18:02:46 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux



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Re: Screensaver takes too much time to fade-out the previous pix, but...

2011-12-13 Thread Robert Moskowitz

On 12/12/2011 10:07 PM, Linda McLeod wrote:

In F-14.. when screensaver slideshow runs, the previous pix takes
quite a while to fully fade-out, and is completely gone only a few
seconds before the pix changes again.. but on an old tower, with only
250-megs of RAM, the fade is nearly instant..?  Which maybe means that
less RAM allocated to screensaver's slideshow, eliminates the
irritating lengthy fade..?
So is there a way, in a high RAM machine, to restrict RAM to
screensaver's slideshow while it's pix-changing, so to eliminate the
irritating lengthy fade time-periods..?


It could be a difference in video card.  It could be a difference in 
resolution.  There are a number of different factors that can contribute 
to the different performance.




Please tell, what is being done to eliminate screensaver's slideshow
fade time-period..?


I never use resources on screensavers beyond a blank screen.



Is there a way to regulate the time-period a screensaver slideshow pix
remains on the screen..?  I would like a lot more user-conrol over
screensaver's slideshow...  Is there a way to do it with libs and
such..? Or isn't it written yet..?


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Re: fedora equivalent of recovery disk

2011-12-13 Thread g
On 12/13/2011 06:26 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:
 On Mon, 12 Dec 2011, g wrote:
 
 i am familiar with the dd options of -skip and -seek. just not familiar
 with proper way to use dd with cdrecord.

 can someone elaborate?
 
 cdrecord can read from a pipe.
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i have read 'man cdrecord', but i did not recall using of 'pipe'. i have
now red back thru 'man cdrecord' and search for 'pipe' to see just how
pipes are used.

now i have some playing to do to see just how they work.

i have gotten used to using k3b when i do file and directory backup.

i find it easier to drag and drop files and directories in a gui than
trying to remember where everything is and enter it on a command line.

having started at cli, gui has made me lazy and not recalling of what
i once new. of course there are a lot more commands to know with the
advancing of technology. cd/dvd being just one of them.


i thank you for replying.

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Detective work on dupes

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff
As part of getting my system back to where it should be, I've gotten a 
list of dupes from package-cleanup.  Simply telling it to resolve the 
issues doesn't work because of some dependency issues.  What I'm doing 
now is taking things listed as having problems, and with versions 
pre-fc16 and trying to resolve them one by one.  Slow, but I might 
eventually clear up the dependency issues if I'm lucky.


The first thing I tried was glew.  I only have the fc16 version of glew 
installed, but I have both the fc14 and fc16 versions of glew-devel. 
I'm fairly sure that it's safe to remove the older version, but I 
thought I'd see what others think.  Opinions?

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Re: FATAL: shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory

2011-12-13 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 14.12.2011 02:54, schrieb CS DBA:
 I installed Postgresql from source and set SHMMAX to 2198066816
 I set postgres to use 2GB for shared_buffers and I get this when I try to 
 start:

 FATAL:  shmat(id=4096103) failed: Cannot allocate memory

 The only real difference from Fedora 14 is that on Fedora 16 I'm using the 
 PAE kernel
 Thoughts?
 /etc/sysctl.conf - kernel.shmall

 
 I set shmall to the same as shmmax, it didnt help
 
 root@Issac # sysctl -a | grep -i shm
 kernel.shmmax = 2198066816
 kernel.shmall = 2198066816

this value maybe too small if you force pgsql to use 2 GB at it's own
because it is not the only process using SHM

 I have 8GB of ram and I'm using the following kernel:
 # uname -a  
 Linux Issac.consistentstate.com 3.1.5-1.fc16.i686.PAE #1 SMP Fri Dec 9 
 18:02:46 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux

generally a bad idea using any i686 kernel on a machine with 8 GB memory
i686 is legacy these days and PAE can not fix all problems of 32bit
but this should not be the root-cause for the shm-problem






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Re: Detective work on dupes

2011-12-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Tue, 13 Dec 2011 18:00:25 -0800
Joe Zeff wrote:

 As part of getting my system back to where it should be, I've gotten a 
 list of dupes from package-cleanup.

When my system got screwed up, I simply made a script to
forceably remove the older duplicates, but
avoid taking dependencies with them using something
like rpm -e --nodeps.

Then, while the system was still up and operating
I did a yum reinstall on all the new packages
in the duplicates list.

That seemed to work for me.
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Re: Detective work on dupes

2011-12-13 Thread Konstantin Svist

On 12/13/2011 06:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
As part of getting my system back to where it should be, I've gotten a 
list of dupes from package-cleanup.  Simply telling it to resolve the 
issues doesn't work because of some dependency issues.  What I'm doing 
now is taking things listed as having problems, and with versions 
pre-fc16 and trying to resolve them one by one.  Slow, but I might 
eventually clear up the dependency issues if I'm lucky.


The first thing I tried was glew.  I only have the fc16 version of 
glew installed, but I have both the fc14 and fc16 versions of 
glew-devel. I'm fairly sure that it's safe to remove the older 
version, but I thought I'd see what others think.  Opinions?


I've gotten burned while removing duplicates in the past.
The safest way that I came up with is to simply run yum reinstall 
package for each package that has duplicates. This will make sure 
that none of the newer package's files get removed, while the old one is 
cleaned up properly. It also installs all necessary dependencies, so you 
don't need to worry about that.


HTH
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Re: Detective work on dupes

2011-12-13 Thread Joe Zeff

On 12/13/2011 06:35 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:

I've gotten burned while removing duplicates in the past.
The safest way that I came up with is to simply run yum reinstall
package for each package that has duplicates. This will make sure
that none of the newer package's files get removed, while the old one is
cleaned up properly. It also installs all necessary dependencies, so you
don't need to worry about that.


Right now, I'm running package-cleanup --problems and checking to see if 
the top item on the list is a dupe.  So far, each one is and I nuke the 
fc14 version.  Lather, rise, repeat.  One odd thing, though: it keeps 
listing the fc14 version of rss-glx-xscreensaver as a problem, even 
after I've nuked it.  And, I never use -y so that I can examine what's 
going to be removed Just In Case...

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Re: Detective work on dupes

2011-12-13 Thread Konstantin Svist

On 12/13/2011 07:17 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 12/13/2011 06:35 PM, Konstantin Svist wrote:

I've gotten burned while removing duplicates in the past.
The safest way that I came up with is to simply run yum reinstall
package for each package that has duplicates. This will make sure
that none of the newer package's files get removed, while the old one is
cleaned up properly. It also installs all necessary dependencies, so you
don't need to worry about that.


Right now, I'm running package-cleanup --problems and checking to see 
if the top item on the list is a dupe.  So far, each one is and I nuke 
the fc14 version.  Lather, rise, repeat.  One odd thing, though: it 
keeps listing the fc14 version of rss-glx-xscreensaver as a problem, 
even after I've nuked it.  And, I never use -y so that I can examine 
what's going to be removed Just In Case...


In my case it wasn't about the wrong version being removed, it was a 
matter of removing a file that belonged to both versions at the same 
time (the reason why I had dupes was because an update/upgrade didn't 
finish, so old versions weren't cleaned up). Normally yum/rpm won't let 
you install a package that owns a file that's already owned...


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Re: Detective work on dupes

2011-12-13 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 18:35:40 -0800,
  Konstantin Svist fry@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've gotten burned while removing duplicates in the past.

package-cleanup --cleandupes will normally work pretty well. There can be
some problems if there were packages not updated as part of a broken
transaction. You want to keep track of what was removed so you can put stuff
back if need be.

If you notice right away when a transaction goes bad, you want to run
yum-complete-transaction, as that will finish adding packages for the
transaction before it starts removing stuff. If too much stuff has
changed before you try this you may not be able to just finish the
transaction.
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Re: systemd: wait for shutdown-service to complete

2011-12-13 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:
 hi

 i am trying to suspend / start my VMware-Workstation machines automatically
 below my systemd-unit and the two shell-scripts
 start works like a charme (yes i use a seperated user for VM's)

 shutdown works on a machine with one small VM
 on my homeserver i see that it is executed (script output)
 but systemd does not wait until all machines are compleltly suspended
 seeing boot-messages and partially fscheck in the guests

 has anybody an idea how i can make sure that systemd waits to finish
 /scripts/vmware/vm-suspend-all.sh before shutdown the next process
 (in this case vmware.service)  and finally the system?

systemd by default times out after 90 seconds, and it probably takes
longer than that to shutdown your VMs.  You can either set TimeoutSec
in your [Service] section to a higher value (in seconds) or set it 0
to disable timeouts completely.  See the TimeoutSec section of man
systemd.service for more details.

-T.C.
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Re: Detective work on dupes

2011-12-13 Thread Konstantin Svist

On 12/13/2011 07:45 PM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 18:35:40 -0800,
   Konstantin Svistfry@gmail.com  wrote:

I've gotten burned while removing duplicates in the past.

package-cleanup --cleandupes will normally work pretty well. There can be
some problems if there were packages not updated as part of a broken
transaction. You want to keep track of what was removed so you can put stuff
back if need be.

If you notice right away when a transaction goes bad, you want to run
yum-complete-transaction, as that will finish adding packages for the
transaction before it starts removing stuff. If too much stuff has
changed before you try this you may not be able to just finish the
transaction.



yum-complete-transaction is what got me into the biggest problem that time. I'm 
not chancing it again :)


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Disable (broken) nvidia drivers, enable nouveau drivers again ???

2011-12-13 Thread linux guy
I installed the proprietary nvidia drivers using the isntructions here:
http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/fedora-16-nvidia-drivers-install-guide-disable-nouveau-driver/

My computer locks up after being logged into a KDE session for a
minute or so with them.

How do I switch back to the nouveau driver ?

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Re: Disable (broken) nvidia drivers, enable nouveau drivers again ???

2011-12-13 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:38 PM, linux guy linuxguy...@gmail.com wrote:
 I installed the proprietary nvidia drivers using the isntructions here:
 http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/fedora-16-nvidia-drivers-install-guide-disable-nouveau-driver/

 My computer locks up after being logged into a KDE session for a
 minute or so with them.

 How do I switch back to the nouveau driver ?

yum remove *kmod-nvidia* xorg-x11-drv-nvidia*

Also, since that guide (unnecessarily) tells you to regenerate your
initramfs, re-regenerate it or restore the backup copy you made.

-T.C.
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Re: Disable (broken) nvidia drivers, enable nouveau drivers again ???

2011-12-13 Thread linux guy
Thanks for the quick reply.

On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 11:42 PM, T.C. Hollingsworth
tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, since that guide (unnecessarily) tells you to regenerate your
 initramfs, re-regenerate it or restore the backup copy you made.

How do you regenerate it ?  Is that the dracut command ?

I'm just getting up to speed on this grub2 stuff.

Thanks
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Re: Disable (broken) nvidia drivers, enable nouveau drivers again ???

2011-12-13 Thread linux guy
I had to add a --force but it worked like a charm.
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