[389-users] Wiki/FireFox 9.0 problem
Hi, looks like the current wiki code has a problem with FireFox 9.0, the menu is displayed under the main content div. It seems ( http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/906789#answer-290813 or http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=25t=2392487) like a browser sniffing problem in wiki javascript code: This is caused by browser sniffing that has been broken in Firefox 9. The property navigator.taintEnabled is no longer supported so the wrong css file gets loaded which sets the margin-left of the div column-content to zero. As a result there is less room for the navigation div which is pushed down. Don't know whether FireFox devs will get back the navigator.taintEnabled property or the wiki code base should be patched... The same problem appears on a lot of other wiki sites (including, for example, http://k5wiki.kerberos.org) @+ -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] Wiki/FireFox 9.0 problem
After some research apparently it was fixed in MediaWiki 1.16 released 2010-07-28 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31807) 2012/1/4 Andrey Ivanov andrey.iva...@polytechnique.fr Hi, looks like the current wiki code has a problem with FireFox 9.0, the menu is displayed under the main content div. It seems ( http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/906789#answer-290813 or http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=25t=2392487) like a browser sniffing problem in wiki javascript code: This is caused by browser sniffing that has been broken in Firefox 9. The property navigator.taintEnabled is no longer supported so the wrong css file gets loaded which sets the margin-left of the div column-content to zero. As a result there is less room for the navigation div which is pushed down. Don't know whether FireFox devs will get back the navigator.taintEnabled property or the wiki code base should be patched... The same problem appears on a lot of other wiki sites (including, for example, http://k5wiki.kerberos.org) @+ -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
[389-users] Announcing 389 bugzilla is moving to 389 trac
The 389 team will be switching to trac for keeping track of bugs/enhancement requests/issues instead of Red Hat Bugzilla. * Why? We needed a clear separation between upstream 389 development and downstream Red Hat product/process. It was getting too confusing using bugzilla for both upstream and downstream. We needed an issue tracking tool that was focused only on the upstream 389. Most of the other related groups such as freeipa, sssd, dogtag, and others have already moved to use trac. * What happens to 389 bugs in bugzilla? Nothing. They are still there. You can continue to use bugzilla. All of the open issues have been copied to trac. You can still use bugzilla to refer to the older issues. We have an internal tool we use that links bugzilla bugs to trac so we can find unlinked bugs/tickets and create links, copy bugs, etc. * What if I find an issue with a particular Fedora/EPEL release? Go ahead and file the bug in bugzilla against Product: Fedora or Fedora EPEL and Component: 389-ds-base (or whatever component). The 389 development team will triage the bug. If it affects upstream, we will copy it into a trac ticket. When we fix the bug and push out a package containing the fix, we will update the bugzilla bug, so if you don't care about what happens in the upstream, you don't have to worry about it. You can just pay attention to the bugzilla Fedora/EPEL bug and find out when a package containing the fix is released. * Where is the new trac? https://fedorahosted.org/389 * How do I see the tickets? https://fedorahosted.org/389/report - there are various reports to see tickets * How do I file a new ticket, or add myself to the CC list of an existing ticket? You must first have a Fedora Account - see https://admin.fedoraproject.org/accounts/ Once you login, you should see a link for New Ticket, and you should be able to modify/add comments to existing tickets. -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: [389-users] Wiki/FireFox 9.0 problem
On 01/04/2012 02:13 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: After some research apparently it was fixed in MediaWiki 1.16 released 2010-07-28 (https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31807) Thanks Andrey. We are working on it. 2012/1/4 Andrey Ivanov andrey.iva...@polytechnique.fr mailto:andrey.iva...@polytechnique.fr Hi, looks like the current wiki code has a problem with FireFox 9.0, the menu is displayed under the main content div. It seems (http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/906789#answer-290813 or http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=25t=2392487 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=25t=2392487) like a browser sniffing problem in wiki javascript code: This is caused by browser sniffing that has been broken in Firefox 9. The property navigator.taintEnabled is no longer supported so the wrong css file gets loaded which sets the margin-left of the div column-content to zero. As a result there is less room for the navigation div which is pushed down. Don't know whether FireFox devs will get back the navigator.taintEnabled property or the wiki code base should be patched... The same problem appears on a lot of other wiki sites (including, for example, http://k5wiki.kerberos.org) @+ -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: dumb question
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:51 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: What is in killfox?? A shell script to kill firefox when it used to give me problems a while back. All it contains is killall -6 firefox-bin killall -6 plugin-container but it saved me typing. -- http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines HI Something is wrong here.. It is late at night and I can't put my finger on it.. You have an executable file and it does not execute? Change to -x and use sh filename and it does not execute? It does not work that way here.. You are doing something and I can't see it.. YMMV Marvin http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelinesAsk away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 03:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them and seeing that Marvin is saying it needs to be +x and Ed is saying it doesn't. I ran a test and -x seems to work. FYI, Marvin corrected himself saying Sorry.. My bad... The make is +x.. For questions on my syntax of *.sh, I have believed since my earliest days that a shell file (be it .sh, .csh, .tcsh, or .bash) that it has to be +x as it is an executable. If I am incorrect, I would love to know, though it may take me a day or two to adjust to the news that the earth shifted polarity (smile) If you want them to be directly executable, yes. But if you call them as input to a shell they need not be. If you have them as executable you can control what shell is used by the first line in the file. As I mentioned earlier, I've got a shell script called killfox. The first line contains #!/bin/bash which means it is a bash script. I could change it to #!/bin/tcsh and it would be interpreted as a tcsh script. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell pnew...@cs.cmu.eduwrote: On 1/3/2012 11:42 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: HI Sorry.. My bad... The make is +x.. Marivn Marvin and Ed: Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them and seeing that Marvin is saying it needs to be +x and Ed is saying it doesn't. I ran a test and -x seems to work. For questions on my syntax of *.sh, I have believed since my earliest days that a shell file (be it .sh, .csh, .tcsh, or .bash) that it has to be +x as it is an executable. If I am incorrect, I would love to know, though it may take me a day or two to adjust to the news that the earth shifted polarity (smile) Thanks, Paul https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/usershttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Paul Apples and Oranges.. If you use sh... In the command line. as sh ./filename The file does not need to be executable. if you do ./filename You need to have the x bit set... And I agree with you.. When I write shell scripts I use a .sh extension. Just to make it easy on myself.. It help me identify .sh from .txt files.. HTH Marvin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 04:01 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: On Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 11:53 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:51 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: What is in killfox?? A shell script to kill firefox when it used to give me problems a while back. All it contains is killall -6 firefox-bin killall -6 plugin-container but it saved me typing. -- HI Something is wrong here.. It is late at night and I can't put my finger on it.. You have an executable file and it does not execute? It executes just finein both cases. The output is firefox-bin: no process found plugin-container: no process found Since I'm currently not running firefox... Change to -x and use sh filename and it does not execute? It does not work that way here.. You are doing something and I can't see it.. The full script is [egreshko@meimei bin]$ cat killfox #!/bin/bash killall -6 firefox-bin killall -6 plugin-container -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 04:07 PM, Marvin Kosmal wrote: And I agree with you.. When I write shell scripts I use a .sh extension. Just to make it easy on myself.. It help me identify .sh from .txt files.. My point is simply that .sh or any other extension is meaningless to the OS. It may be helpful to the humans. FWIW, I never use extensions. Just not something that I find necessary. I also found it confused some people coming from the M$ world. Again, just my practice. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
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On 1/4/2012 12:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 01/04/2012 03:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them
and seeing that Marvin is saying it needs to be +x and Ed is saying
it doesn't. I ran a test and -x seems to work.
FYI, Marvin corrected himself saying
Sorry..
My bad...
The make is +x..
So I should chmod all {M,m}akefile(s) to rwxr-x-r-x?
For questions on my syntax of *.sh, I have believed since my
earliest days that a shell file (be it .sh, .csh, .tcsh, or
.bash) that it has to be +x as it is an executable. If I am
incorrect, I would love to know, though it may take me a day or two to
adjust to the news that the earth shifted polarity (smile)
If you want them to be directly executable, yes. But if you call them
as input to a shell they need not be.
That's new to me, thank you
If you have them as executable you can control what shell is used by the
first line in the file.
As I mentioned earlier, I've got a shell script called killfox. The
first line contains #!/bin/bash which means it is a bash script. I
could change it to #!/bin/tcsh and it would be interpreted as a tcsh
script.
I have been including the $!/bin/whatever for the longest time as
there are some things that I find easier to do in {sh,tcsh,bash} and
want to force that. The tcsh is the biggest problem in my life owing to
its legacy ... I'd kick over to bash if it weren't for the fact that
third party are stuck in the history of tcsh. I don't have any issue
with either tcsh or bash, but I gotta live with the difference.
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Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 04:14 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
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On 1/4/2012 12:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
On 01/04/2012 03:59 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote:
Though I really appreciate both of your replies, I am looking at them
and seeing that Marvin is saying it needs to be +x and Ed is saying
it doesn't. I ran a test and -x seems to work.
FYI, Marvin corrected himself saying
Sorry..
My bad...
The make is +x..
So I should chmod all {M,m}akefile(s) to rwxr-x-r-x?
I've already demonstrated that it isn't necessary.
For questions on my syntax of *.sh, I have believed since my
earliest days that a shell file (be it .sh, .csh, .tcsh, or
.bash) that it has to be +x as it is an executable. If I am
incorrect, I would love to know, though it may take me a day or two to
adjust to the news that the earth shifted polarity (smile)
If you want them to be directly executable, yes. But if you call them
as input to a shell they need not be.
That's new to me, thank you
Welcome...
If you have them as executable you can control what shell is used by the
first line in the file.
As I mentioned earlier, I've got a shell script called killfox. The
first line contains #!/bin/bash which means it is a bash script. I
could change it to #!/bin/tcsh and it would be interpreted as a tcsh
script.
I have been including the $!/bin/whatever for the longest time as
there are some things that I find easier to do in {sh,tcsh,bash} and
want to force that. The tcsh is the biggest problem in my life owing
to its legacy ... I'd kick over to bash if it weren't for the fact
that third party are stuck in the history of tcsh. I don't have any
issue with either tcsh or bash, but I gotta live with the difference.
Sure, I also have some old stuff that needs tcsh.
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Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 12:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I never use extensions. Ed: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what is there. The system shouldn't give a damn, but the user needs all the help he/she can get (smile) Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 04:17 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what is there. The system shouldn't give a damn, but the user needs all the help he/she can get (smile) Sure, and if someone chooses to use them that is their choice. I don't bash (pun intended) them for it. I just make sure that the new people I run into (at work) know that it isn't necessary. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 12:17 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
FYI, Marvin corrected himself saying
Sorry..
My bad...
The make is +x..
So I should chmod all {M,m}akefile(s) to rwxr-x-r-x?
I've already demonstrated that it isn't necessary.
And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin says
make it +x and you are saying it doesn't need to be. I asked this dumb
question to find out how I should treat this situation regardless of
what works. Its about understanding whether a makefile is an
executable or if make is just treating it as input and the executable
part is under the hood.
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Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 12:19 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/04/2012 04:17 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what is there. The system shouldn't give a damn, but the user needs all the help he/she can get (smile) Sure, and if someone chooses to use them that is their choice. I don't bash (pun intended) them for it. I just make sure that the new people I run into (at work) know that it isn't necessary. Fair enough ... I understand. If I worked at your place, I would panic at not having the extensions as a text-based clue. I spent too many years at too many places to understand that seeing an extension on a file gave me a sense of what the original author intended when I had to dive into a debug to figure out what he/she screwed up. But, as I started with, fair enough .. I accept and understand, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 04:22 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin says make it +x and you are saying it doesn't need to be. I asked this dumb question to find out how I should treat this situation regardless of what works. Its about understanding whether a makefile is an executable or if make is just treating it as input and the executable part is under the hood. No I'm saying that Marvin first said that the Makefile should be +x but later corrected himself to say that it was /usr/bin/make he was thinking of and that certainly needs to be +x because it is the executable [egreshko@f16-2 egreshko]$ file /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/make: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, stripped Again, Makefile or makefile need not be executable and in fact they aren't meant to be executable. [egreshko@misty transcode-1.0.2]$ chmod +x Makefile [egreshko@misty transcode-1.0.2]$ ./Makefile ./Makefile: line 19: srcdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 20: top_srcdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 22: datadir: command not found ./Makefile: line 22: pkgdatadir: command not found ./Makefile: line 23: libdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 23: pkglibdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 24: includedir: command not found -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: iptables: block source-ip after connecto port
On 04-01-12 06:54, Reindl Harald wrote: hi i would like to drop all icoming packets of any ip tried to connect to telnet (port 23) which is meant as trap for port-scans, there are some samples out there but i got none of them working until now :-( iptables -N port-scan iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m limit --limit 3/m --limit-burst 5 -j LOG --log-prefix portscan trap: iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m recent --update --seconds 60 -j RETURN iptables -A port-scan -j DROP Don't have much experience with iptables but shouldn't the rule apply to the INPUT filter? So, taking your rules, something like this: iptables -N port-scan iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m limit --limit 3/m --limit-burst 5 -j LOG --log-prefix portscan trap: iptables -A INPUT -j port-scan Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
Around 08:17am on Wednesday, January 04, 2012 (UK time), Paul Allen Newell scrawled: On 1/4/2012 12:11 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: FWIW, I never use extensions. Ed: Though I can't stand the MS world of extensions meaning something, I can't imagine not using extensions to help understand what is there. The system shouldn't give a damn, but the user needs all the help he/she can get (smile) The case against extensions in this context is that the user shouldn't have to change if the shell script is rewritten in a different language. Having to change from foobar.sh to foobar.pl just because of this change isn't user friendly. And what if you re-wrote it in C? But although you can make a case, it isn't an open and shut one, but a matter of preference I guess. And I certainly think .conf on a file is useful. And maybe even .d Steve -- Website: www.stevesearle.com Twitter: @ReddishShift Facebook: www.facebook.com/steve.searle 08:26:23 up 4 days, 19:32, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01 pgphJcM8sdETu.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 04:26 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: air enough ... I understand. If I worked at your place, I would panic at not having the extensions as a text-based clue. I spent too many years at too many places to understand that seeing an extension on a file gave me a sense of what the original author intended when I had to dive into a debug to figure out what he/she screwed up. But, as I started with, fair enough .. I accept and understand, Well, I'm sorry you'd panic We'd just use the file command to find out what the intended use is and adhere to a standard of putting #!/bin/bash or whatever shell as the first line of a file... [egreshko@misty bin]$ file killfox killfox: Bourne-Again shell script text executable [egreshko@misty bin]$ file ptest ptest: perl script text executable etc -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 12:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/04/2012 04:22 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin says make it +x and you are saying it doesn't need to be. I asked this dumb question to find out how I should treat this situation regardless of what works. Its about understanding whether a makefile is an executable or if make is just treating it as input and the executable part is under the hood. No I'm saying that Marvin first said that the Makefile should be +x but later corrected himself to say that it was /usr/bin/make he was thinking of and that certainly needs to be +x because it is the executable [egreshko@f16-2 egreshko]$ file /usr/bin/make /usr/bin/make: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.32, stripped Again, Makefile or makefile need not be executable and in fact they aren't meant to be executable. [egreshko@misty transcode-1.0.2]$ chmod +x Makefile [egreshko@misty transcode-1.0.2]$ ./Makefile ./Makefile: line 19: srcdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 20: top_srcdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 22: datadir: command not found ./Makefile: line 22: pkgdatadir: command not found ./Makefile: line 23: libdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 23: pkglibdir: command not found ./Makefile: line 24: includedir: command not found Ed: My mis-read, thanks for setting me right on this. I think I get it now Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
[inline] On 1/4/2012 12:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, I'm sorry you'd panic I wish I had qualified that statement with a smile ... please allow me to edit prior comment. We'd just use the file command to find out what the intended use is and adhere to a standard of putting #!/bin/bash or whatever shell as the first line of a file... In my world, nobody wanted to have to run file as we believe the intent of the file should be obvious on a ls. We tried to never parse on extension, it was just used as a clue to what the intent was Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 12:30 AM, Steve Searle wrote: The case against extensions in this context is that the user shouldn't have to change if the shell script is rewritten in a different language. Having to change from foobar.sh to foobar.pl just because of this change isn't user friendly. And what if you re-wrote it in C? But although you can make a case, it isn't an open and shut one, but a matter of preference I guess. And I certainly think .conf on a file is useful. And maybe even .d Steve Steve: As I have stated earlier, my take is that extensions should be a clue as to what the file has but not something that should be fixed as in MS Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 04:38 PM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: [inline] On 1/4/2012 12:32 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, I'm sorry you'd panic I wish I had qualified that statement with a smile ... please allow me to edit prior comment. OK :-) We'd just use the file command to find out what the intended use is and adhere to a standard of putting #!/bin/bash or whatever shell as the first line of a file... In my world, nobody wanted to have to run file as we believe the intent of the file should be obvious on a ls. We tried to never parse on extension, it was just used as a clue to what the intent was Well, we always will put the files/command (end product of compilation) in directories that tend to clue one in on the purpose. /bin /sbin /usr/bin, etc. And, we only put +x on the files that really need them. Hardly ever needing to use the file command to determine if the file is to be executed directly. Just our way of doing things. -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[SOLVED:] Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 12:46 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: Well, we always will put the files/command (end product of compilation) in directories that tend to clue one in on the purpose. /bin /sbin /usr/bin, etc. And, we only put +x on the files that really need them. Hardly ever needing to use the file command to determine if the file is to be executed directly. Ed: Makes sense ... I think it all falls under different folks finding conventions that work for them. I do like the idea of only making files +x if needed Thanks for sharing your POV ... plus resolving my original question, Paul Just our way of doing things. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: pdfedit in F16?
Sorry for reincornating this thread, but I'm planning to package pdfedit fo f16. According to admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb it's orphaned. On 10/12/2011, Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de wrote: On 12/10/2011 10:55 AM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 10/12/11 09:42, Joachim Backes wrote: Hi, anybody knows how to get pdfedit in F16? I used it in F15, version pdfedit-0.4.5-3.fc15.x86_64 First maybe find out why it's no longer in F16, has it been orphaned? If you really need it: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=263870 or yum install pdfedit --releasever=15 Thanks, Frank. After installing the F15 version of pdfedit, it runs in F16 too (without installation any additional libs). Kind regards Joachim Backes -- Joachim Backes joachim.bac...@rhrk.uni-kl.de http://www.rhrk.uni-kl.de/~backes -- Hiisi. Registered Linux User #487982. Be counted at: http://counter.li.org/ -- Spandex is a privilege, not a right. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Richard. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can I list all users defined in LDAP (on RHEL6 or Fedora) ?
Stephen Gallagher píše v Út 03. 01. 2012 v 16:10 -0500: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 15:51 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote: Pavel, Are you sure the LDAP server allows listing all users? It's quite normal to turn that off. By default, SSSD doesn't allow listing all users/groups because it presents significant load on the server. You can enable it by adding 'enumerate = True' to the [domain/default] section of /etc/sssd/sssd.conf and then restarting SSSD (with 'service sssd restart') It was it thanks a lot. My LDAP DB is not big so performance is not problem. In general, you probably want to review what your scripts are doing and see if you can't make them more efficient by using specific lookups. I use it to get list of all active users to create homedirs and ssh keys for them (for example). It is much simpler to use shell utils than write perl script to connect to LDAP directly. Is it possible to set sssd to list only active users - set custom filter? Now it lists all users (inactive include samba/computer accounts) I use this filter in /etc/ldap.conf now: nss_base_passwd ou=People,dc=company,dc=org?one?|(sambaAcctFlags=[UX]) I've found only this: access_provider = ldap ldap_access_filter = sambaAcctFlags=[UX] but it doesn't change list of getent passwd Any idea how to solve it? Pavel -- Pavel Lisy p...@tmapy.cz T-MAPY spol. s r.o. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
Paul Allen Newell pnewell at cs.cmu.edu writes: ... For questions on my syntax of *.sh, I have believed since my earliest days that a shell file (be it .sh, .csh, .tcsh, or .bash) that it has to be +x as it is an executable. If I am incorrect, I would love to know, though it may take me a day or two to adjust to the news that the earth shifted polarity (smile) Sleep well, the polarity is still intact :-) Would the following be helpful ? # ls -l /etc/init.d/network -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 7448 Feb 25 2011 /etc/init.d/network # file /etc/init.d/network /etc/init.d/network: Bourne-Again shell script text executable # cat /etc/init.d/network #! /bin/bash # # network Bring up/down networking # # chkconfig: - 10 90 # description: Activates/Deactivates all network interfaces configured to \ # start at boot time. # ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: $network # Should-Start: iptables ip6tables # Short-Description: Bring up/down networking # Description: Bring up/down networking ### END INIT INFO # Source function library. . /etc/init.d/functions ... # /etc/init.d/network status Configured devices: lo Currently active devices: lo eth0 # sh /etc/init.d/network status Configured devices: lo Currently active devices: lo eth0 # chmod a-x /etc/init.d/network # ls -al /etc/init.d/network -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 7448 Feb 25 2011 /etc/init.d/network # file /etc/init.d/network /etc/init.d/network: Bourne-Again shell script text executable # /etc/init.d/network status bash: /etc/init.d/network: Permission denied # sh /etc/init.d/network status Configured devices: lo Currently active devices: lo eth0 JB “It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.” - Mark Twain -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this? Enquiring minds want to know. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 10:51 +, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. You can always just filter posts from certain annoying users, but if you want to ask for someone to be banned you need to write directly to the list admins (not moderators, this list is not moderated). You can get the address from the list info page. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this? Enquiring minds want to know. poc Yeah, well, how do you think I feel having found this first thing this morning? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 23:19 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: To the list: I am dealing with a primary Fedora machine and a alternate WinXP under cygwin. Cygwin always screw up the permissions when I drag stuff over to it and then bring it back to the Fedora box. I've got scripts to handle making things right again. But I did have a question which I didn't find out from Googling (as I suspect I didn't know how to phrase it). On a Fedora/Linux box, do Makefile/makefile (s) have to be set to +x? Or can they be just rw-r--r--? I know you and Ed (and Marvin) have been round the block on this, but if you'll allow an oldie to sum up: Makefiles are not normally executables, in fact they aren't normally Shell scripts. Therefore they don't need to have the +x attribute. It's easy to list the Makefiles on your system and check this: ls -l $(locate -b -i '\Makefile') poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: After I sent a private message to the WOT forum, my screen switched to this page..?
On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 01:29:33PM -0600, Michael Cronenworth wrote: Linda McLeod wrote: [snip troll-spam] OK. I've had enough. List admins, could you please issue a warning to this user? They have a history[1][2][3][4][5][6][7] of posting troll comments, which has started to become spam. [1] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/406838.html [2] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/406840.html [3] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/406842.html [4] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/407044.html [5] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/407876.html [6] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408041.html [7] http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-November/408044.html Apologies Michael. One of my mail filters apparently was overzealously marking some of my mail as unread, and I missed this and some related messages. I've adjusted the filter accordingly. No idea whether the other admins saw it earlier. Another subscriber sent a complaint that made it through this morning, which caused me to go back and find your mail above. After reviewing the archives I marked this user as moderated. Sorry for the trouble. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:27:11AM +, Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. FWIW, I'm willing to moderate (after effect, doesn't have to be done before the post arrives to the mailing list). I do so already for GNOME. Anyone know whom in Fedora decides this / hands out / approves listadmin permissions? In GNOME I just do because I am able (sysadmin). -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can I list all users defined in LDAP (on RHEL6 or Fedora) ?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 13:51 +0100, Pavel Lisy wrote: Stephen Gallagher píše v St 04. 01. 2012 v 07:31 -0500: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 12:03 +0100, Pavel Lisy wrote: Stephen Gallagher píše v Út 03. 01. 2012 v 16:10 -0500: On Tue, 2012-01-03 at 15:51 -0500, Peter Larsen wrote: Pavel, Are you sure the LDAP server allows listing all users? It's quite normal to turn that off. By default, SSSD doesn't allow listing all users/groups because it presents significant load on the server. You can enable it by adding 'enumerate = True' to the [domain/default] section of /etc/sssd/sssd.conf and then restarting SSSD (with 'service sssd restart') It was it thanks a lot. My LDAP DB is not big so performance is not problem. In general, you probably want to review what your scripts are doing and see if you can't make them more efficient by using specific lookups. I use it to get list of all active users to create homedirs and ssh keys for them (for example). It is much simpler to use shell utils than write perl script to connect to LDAP directly. Is it possible to set sssd to list only active users - set custom filter? Now it lists all users (inactive include samba/computer accounts) I use this filter in /etc/ldap.conf now: nss_base_passwd ou=People,dc=company,dc=org?one?|(sambaAcctFlags=[UX]) I've found only this: access_provider = ldap ldap_access_filter = sambaAcctFlags=[UX] but it doesn't change list of getent passwd Any idea how to solve it? We just added this feature in SSSD 1.7.0 (which I'm going to be putting in updates-testing for F16 today). You'll be able to do: ldap_user_search_base = ou=People,dc=company,dc=org?one?(sambaAcctFlags=[UX]) ldap_group_search_base = ou=Groups,dc=company,dc=org?one?|(sambaAcctFlags=[UX]) Excelent! I've just found in (fedora) documentation that it is possible filter it by: ldap_user_search_filter = (sambaAcctFlags=[UX] It works in sssd-1.6.3 (my F16). But I've tried it (and need it too) in RHEL6/CentOS6 and there is older version sssd-1.5.1-66 which doesn't support this feature yet. Do you think you/they will increase version of sssd in next RHEL update (6.3)? I suppose not. So I'll need to disable sssd and use nss-pam-ldapd instead. The plan for RHEL 6.3 is to rebase SSSD to 1.8.0 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 07:37:30AM -0500, Neal Becker wrote: Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this? Enquiring minds want to know. poc Yeah, well, how do you think I feel having found this first thing this morning? Sorry for the noise. As I reported in another message, an erroneous filter kept me from seeing an earlier complaint to the list owners about this user, who's now being moderated. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image, I'd think, the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel will know what to do with the funky SSD drive in that thing. pgpmzDafDkP2R.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 07:55:28 -0430 Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 11:27 +, Alan Cox wrote: On Wed, 4 Jan 2012 10:51:05 + Richard Hughes hughsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this? Enquiring minds want to know. Plot graphs of active contributors to this list and their active time on the list before leaving, compare with the power curve you got from doing it with old data. It speaks volumes. For comparison do the same with the Fedora forums, although there you'll really need to do a bit of statistical sampling as I don't know a polite and reasonable way to pull the needed data and crunch it locally. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Gnote + Gome 3
On Tue, 03 Jan 2012 20:06:01 -0200 Germán A. Racca german.ra...@gmail.com wrote: $ gsettings set org.gnome.gnote use-status-icon true A very nice gem! This has been bugging me for a while. Thanks. -- Brian Millett Do you know what its like when telepaths make love, Commander? You drop every defense and its all mirrors reflecting each other's feelings. Deeper and deeper until somewhere along the line, your souls mix and its a feeling so profound it makes you hurt. It's the only moment in a telepath's life you no longer hear the voices. -- [ Talia Winters, Mind War] -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 3:40 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 1/4/2012 12:30 AM, Steve Searle wrote: The case against extensions in this context is that the user shouldn't have to change if the shell script is rewritten in a different language. Having to change from foobar.sh to foobar.pl just because of this change isn't user friendly. And what if you re-wrote it in C? But although you can make a case, it isn't an open and shut one, but a matter of preference I guess. And I certainly think .conf on a file is useful. And maybe even .d Steve Steve: As I have stated earlier, my take is that extensions should be a clue as to what the file has but not something that should be fixed as in MS Thanks, Paul Well I must disagree to some extent. For some purposes, such as programming, extensions such as '.c', '.h', '.o' are almost required. And, of course, not all extensions begin with '.'. For example, it is common to use 'rc' without the dot for initialization, '~' or similar for backup/deleted files, etc. And, of course, there's '.gz', '.bz', '.tar', and a host of others that have become, more or less, a de facto standard over the years. No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.925 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4122 - Release Date: 01/04/12 02:34:00 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:18 AM, Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com wrote: I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image, I'd think, the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel will know what to do with the funky SSD drive in that thing. I had up to Fedora 15 installed on my old EEEPC 701. I booted a live distro to create all my partitions manually and had to work around the swap requirement (I think I used a USB stick which I later removed and also removed the entry from fstab.) I would think it would run fine, but not sure about the functionality of any special buttons. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: iptables: block source-ip after connecto port
Am 04.01.2012 09:29, schrieb Patrick Lists: On 04-01-12 06:54, Reindl Harald wrote: hi i would like to drop all icoming packets of any ip tried to connect to telnet (port 23) which is meant as trap for port-scans, there are some samples out there but i got none of them working until now :-( iptables -N port-scan iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m limit --limit 3/m --limit-burst 5 -j LOG --log-prefix portscan trap: iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m recent --update --seconds 60 -j RETURN iptables -A port-scan -j DROP Don't have much experience with iptables but shouldn't the rule apply to the INPUT filter? So, taking your rules, something like this: iptables -N port-scan iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m limit --limit 3/m --limit-burst 5 -j LOG --log-prefix portscan trap: iptables -A INPUT -j port-scan this does not work (this is only the logline) i do not want to block (only) port 23, syn-packet on port 23 should be the trigger to block the remote-address on ALL incoming ports for 60 seconds and have no idea how to define this it does even not drop port 23 and if it would it can this way not define drop packets to all other ports the first line is only logging.. iptables -N port-scan iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m limit --limit 3/m --limit-burst 5 -j LOG --log-prefix portscan trap: iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m recent --update --seconds 60 -j DROP iptables -A INPUT -j port-scan signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop
From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 4:18 PM To: Groten, Ryan Cc: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Subject: Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop On 01/03/2012 03:50 PM, Groten, Ryan wrote: From: Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:42 PM To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. Cc: Groten, Ryan Subject: Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop On 01/03/2012 03:14 PM, Groten, Ryan wrote: Hi everyone, In my environment I have a total of 4 directory servers, 2 multi-masters in production (ServerA, ServerB) and 2 multi-masters to test with (ServerC, ServerD). Basically here's what I did: Took a backup of one of the production directory servers, ServerA Copied ServerA's backup to ServerC (test). Deleted the replication agreement on ServerC to ServerD (but not the agreement from ServerD to ServerC) Ran /usr/lib64/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/bak2db 2011_12_29_15_27_35 The restore started, and never stopped running. I eventually killed it and tried again, this time capturing the output: # /usr/lib64/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/bak2db 2011_12_29_15_27_35 [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] 389-Directory/1.2.9.9 - debug level: backend (524288) [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Deleting log file: (/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/db/log.21) [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Restoring file 1 (/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/db/DBVERSION) [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Copying /var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/bak/2011_12_29_15_27_35/DBVERSION to /var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/db/DBVERSION [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Restoring file 2 (/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/db/log.21) [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Copying /var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/bak/2011_12_29_15_27_35/log.21 to /var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/db/log.21 [ lines removed to reduce size ] [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Restoring file 33 (/var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/db/userRoot/uid.db4) [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Copying /var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/bak/2011_12_29_15_27_35/userRoot/uid.db4 to /var/lib/dirsrv/slapd-ServerC/db/userRoot/uid.db4 [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=aci,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=aci,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=entryrdn,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=entryrdn,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=nscpEntryDN,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=nscpEntryDN,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=nsds5ReplConflict,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=nsds5ReplConflict,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=nsuniqueid,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=nsuniqueid,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=numsubordinates,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=numsubordinates,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=objectclass,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=objectclass,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=parentid,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=parentid,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=aci,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=aci,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=entryrdn,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=entryrdn,cn=index,cn=userRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del Index Config Entry cn=nscpEntryDN,cn=index,cn=NetscapeRoot,cn=ldbm database,cn=plugins,cn=config [03/Jan/2012:15:06:43 -0700] - Del
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 01/04/2012 10:51 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. -=- Richard, if poster squashes your melons so much, why do you not set up 'troll' filter? filter on 'From:' and 'Body:' for troll's name. then all you would have to contend with is repliers who do not leave op's name in body and you have to add 'Subject:' to filter. if you used an offline email client, it would be even easier as you could thread and mark troll's emails as read and give them a special tag color and you would know to leave that thread alone. granted moderating would be nice, but such does require someone having to spend time doing what you could do for yourself. personally, i find a some of Linda's post to be amusing and i enjoy a little 'sidetrack' from time to time. granted she/he/it does go a little overboard sometimes, bwtf, that is all a part of it. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: FreeIPA Fedora 16
On 01/04/2012 05:06 AM, Stephen Gallagher wrote: I see the users and can log in etc, however every client machine fails to shut down after being configured Hmm, that's interesting. If it's only happening once the ipa client install is done, then it's probably an SSSD issue. I think it could be the certmonger service but I haven't had any confirmation yet, although the maintain says it works in rawhide. I've opened a BZ with the package maintainer https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=771222 If I manually stop the certmonger.service... actually manually stopping certmonger.path is sufficient. For example: systemctl stop certmonger.path then the systems shut down quite happily. I haven't done anything special to these clients, just vanilla installs of F16 in a VM for testing. Do you have any way of identifying which applications are still running at that point? That's a good question. I just figured the above out by trial and error. At that point in the shut down, almost everything has been stopped so I'm not sure I have much visibility on what's going on but that's probably my lack of in-depth knowledge about systemd and it's bewildering array of options. -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
g wrote: On 01/04/2012 10:51 AM, Richard Hughes wrote: On 3 January 2012 23:05, Linda McLeod lindavald...@fastmail.fm wrote: users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. -=- Richard, if poster squashes your melons so much, why do you not set up 'troll' filter? filter on 'From:' and 'Body:' for troll's name. then all you would have to contend with is repliers who do not leave op's name in body and you have to add 'Subject:' to filter. if you used an offline email client, it would be even easier as you could thread and mark troll's emails as read and give them a special tag color and you would know to leave that thread alone. granted moderating would be nice, but such does require someone having to spend time doing what you could do for yourself. personally, i find a some of Linda's post to be amusing and i enjoy a little 'sidetrack' from time to time. granted she/he/it does go a little overboard sometimes, bwtf, that is all a part of it. You know, I would have taken the same view if it wasn't that this had been directed personally at me. Funny how that changes things. I wouldn't be very happy if I just blocked it from my own client but still found this crap broadcast all over. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F16 autofs + wireless
Hi, A bit of background first :) I have a netbook which connects to my LAN via a Wifi connection and I've configured autofs to pull it's maps from an LDAP directory. The network connection is working exactly as expected and receives a reserved IP address assigned by DHCP. The network connection is handled by NetworkManager and is configured as the default connection, to connect automatically and importantly an IPv4 address is required in order for the connection to be considered successful. Autofs also works as expected if I manually (re)start the service, it pulls it maps and I can mount NFS exports. Autofs is configured to start on boot. The problem is at the point when it starts on boot it does not work because the netbook has not been assigned an IP address yet, (although the wifi interface is up). eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 90:A4:DE:49:42:31 inet6 addr: fe80::92a4:deff:fe49:39ca/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:16 (Yes eth1 is the Wifi interface) The autofs init script seems to require the network to be working before it starts, ie: # Required-Start: $network $ypbind and in order for the network connection to be successful it needs an IPv4 address. So my question is, why does autofs get started before an IPv4 address has been made available? Is there a reasonable way to fix this? -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop
On 01/04/2012 12:32 AM, Andrey Ivanov wrote: Bugzilla will not be used any more (at all)? It will still be used for some things. Some people will enter bugs into the system by filing a bug against Fedora or Fedora EPEL for the particular component of 389 in that release (e.g. Fedora - 389-ds-base or Fedora EPEL - 389-admin). The development team will then triage the bug to see if it affects the upstream 389, and will copy the bug into a trac ticket. The old bugs filed against Product: 389 will still be in bugzilla. Is there any reason for that? We need a separation between upstream 389 development and downstream Red Hat processes. It has become too confusing to keep the upstream development separated from the downstream process in the same bugzilla tool. Almost all of the other related projects (freeipa, sssd, dogtag, others) have moved to using their fedorahosted.org trac for keeping track of bugs/enhancements/tasks. Will the old tickets be transferred to Trac? Some of them, mostly the ones that are still open, and they will also still be available in bugzilla. We have an internal tool for linking bugzilla bugs to trac, so we can manage the bugzilla bug/trac ticket lifecycle easily. The old closed/verified bugs will not be moved to trac, they will be available in bugzilla. Thanks! 2012/1/4 Rich Megginson rmegg...@redhat.com mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com *From:*Rich Megginson [mailto:rmegg...@redhat.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, January 03, 2012 3:42 PM *To:* General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. *Cc:* Groten, Ryan *Subject:* Re: [389-users] bak2db restore got stuck in infinite loop I've filed https://fedorahosted.org/389/ticket/4 to track this issue. Please feel free to add yourself to the CC list (you'll need a Fedora account to do so - see https://fedorahosted.org/389/wiki) and add any comment -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
Hi, I have one of those and Installed many Fedora reseases. Currently it's running F14 with compiz enabled (!) []s, Fernando Lozano Original Message From: Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com To: For users of Fedora Core releases users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Qua, Jan 4, 2012, 11:19 AM Subject: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900 I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image, I'd think, the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel will know what to do with the funky SSD drive in that thing.-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEABECAAYFAk8EUcAACgkQx9p3GYHlUOKuNACePpXqcvD2IWdrv0BMazyFk39T YZYAniS1fO1WuoX/VkF3LD2nvakrz80F =u63o -END PGP SIGNATURE--- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] Problem with ds setup
On 01/03/2012 10:52 PM, Israel Nelken wrote: I tried to install the directory server on a machine with a clean installation of Fedora 16, fully updated. the setup script failed at the state of starting the admin server. I fully removed the installation (remove-ds-admin.pl http://remove-ds-admin.pl -y -f, yum erase 389-ds-base-libs 389-adminutil idm-console-framework, rm -rf /etc/dirsrv /usr/lib*/dirsrv /var/*/dirsrv /etc/sysconfig/dirsrv*), reinstalled the packages, and had the same result. I repeated the same on another machine with a clean install of Fedora 16, exactly the same results. Try using the Fedora 16 389 packages from the testing repos: yum install --enablerepo=updates-testing 389-ds Details: I ran setup-ds-admin.pl http://setup-ds-admin.pl -ddd The seemingly relevant lines from the Log file: [12/01/04:07:25:48] - [Setup] Info Starting admin server . . . [12/01/04:07:25:59] - [Setup] Info output: Starting dirsrv-admin (via systemctl): Job failed. See system logs and 'systemctl status' for details. [12/01/04:07:25:59] - [Setup] Info output: [FAILED] [12/01/04:07:25:59] - [Setup] Fatal Failed to create and configure the admin server [12/01/04:07:25:59] - [Setup] Fatal Exiting . . . from /var/log/messages: Jan 4 07:25:19 habanera ns-slapd[20694]: [04/Jan/2012:07:25:19 +0200] config - The configuration file /etc/dirsrv/slapd-admin/dse.ldif does not exist Jan 4 07:25:19 habanera ns-slapd[20694]: [04/Jan/2012:07:25:19 +0200] config - The backup configuration file /etc/dirsrv/slapd-admin/dse.ldif.tmp does not exist, either. Jan 4 07:25:19 habanera ns-slapd[20694]: [04/Jan/2012:07:25:19 +0200] schema - No schema files were found in the directory /etc/dirsrv/slapd-admin/schema Jan 4 07:25:19 habanera ns-slapd[20694]: [04/Jan/2012:07:25:19 +0200] dse - Please edit the file to correct the reported problems and then restart the server. Jan 4 07:25:19 habanera systemd[1]: dirsrv@admin.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 Jan 4 07:25:19 habanera systemd[1]: Unit dirsrv@admin.service entered failed state. Jan 4 07:25:48 habanera dirsrv-admin[20825]: Starting dirsrv-admin: Jan 4 07:25:49 habanera dirsrv-admin[20825]: /usr/sbin/start-ds-admin: line 104: 20845 Segmentation fault $SELINUX_CMD $HTTPD $OMIT_DEFLATE -k start -f /etc/dirsrv/admin-serv/httpd.conf $@ Jan 4 07:25:49 habanera kernel: [57576.961337] httpd.worker[20845]: segfault at c ip 008e1c67 sp bfc770f0 error 4 in libpthread-2.14.90.so http://libpthread-2.14.90.so[8d9000+17000] Jan 4 07:25:59 habanera dirsrv-admin[20825]: Server failed to start !!! Please check errors log for problems Jan 4 07:25:59 habanera dirsrv-admin[20825]: [FAILED] Jan 4 07:25:59 habanera systemd[1]: dirsrv-admin.service: control process exited, code=exited status=1 Jan 4 07:25:59 habanera systemd[1]: Unit dirsrv-admin.service entered failed state. slapd-habanera seems to run (I see it with ps -ef, and /var/log/dirsrv/slapd-habanera/access and error are getting filled up, nothing to comment about). /var/log/dirsrv/admin-serv/error: [Wed Jan 04 07:25:49 2012] [notice] Access Host filter is: *.ls.huji.ac.il http://ls.huji.ac.il [Wed Jan 04 07:25:49 2012] [notice] Access Address filter is: * -- Prof. Israel Nelken Dept. of Neurobiology The Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Sciences Edmond Safra Campus, Givat Ram Jerusalem 91904, ISRAEL Tel: ++972-2-6584229 Fax: ++972-2-6586077 isr...@cc.huji.ac.il mailto:isr...@cc.huji.ac.il -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-us...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl writes: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:27:11AM +, Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. FWIW, I'm willing to moderate (after effect, doesn't have to be done before the post arrives to the mailing list). I do so already for GNOME. Anyone know whom in Fedora decides this / hands out / approves listadmin permissions? In GNOME I just do because I am able (sysadmin). Olav, with all due respect ... Because you are GNOME list moderator, does not qualify you to be one for this list. As a matter of fact, you should distance yourself from GNOME after all that DE garbage they delivered to Fedora users, all over the world. So, thank you, but NO thank you ! JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. Alan -- Alan, Things are not as bleak as you seem to think. I am a regular reader and occasional contributor to this list and have been for years. True, from time to time we attract some world class trolls. But I have learned more about Linux, Fedora, and computers in general from this list than any other single source. I've seen people ask questions, some very technical ones, on a very wide variety of Linux/Fedora topics and get good answers within minutes. This list is far from useless. It's a fantastic resource and I want to thank everyone here for all the help they have given me either directly to my questions or indirectly through helping someone else. Dennis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 01/04/2012 03:22 PM, Neal Becker wrote: You know, I would have taken the same view if it wasn't that this had been directed personally at me. Funny how that changes things. I wouldn't be very happy if I just blocked it from my own client but still found this crap broadcast all over. -=- understandable. but do consider if you had filters set up, you would never have known. what you do not know can not hurt you. 8-D what's more, consider source. especially if you have bashed him/her/it. it is really relevant to one simple question; are you black and blue, or, cut up and bleeding? -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 5:18 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel will know what to do with the funky SSD drive in that thing. I doubt that will be a problem. I had stock F14 on my 900A. Although I preferred some of the other, lighter, spins; they all use the same kernel. The real problem is that 4GB is too tight to get much done that's worth doing. For awhile I used the SD card slot for my data storage, essentially storing all my work files on the card. Eventually, I got tired of that and purchased a 64GB SSD to replace the 4GB. Much nicer now. (Although the SSD cost almost as much as the netbook.) -Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 01/04/2012 09:18 PM, Paul W. Frields wrote: about this user, who's now being moderated. Bummer. I never paid any attention to what Linda had to say. It was *way* more fun reading reactions to her posts. :-) -- A common mistake that people make when trying to design something completely foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools. -- Douglas Adams in Mostly Harmless -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:38 AM, Dennis Kaptain dkapt...@yahoo.com.mxwrote: Either the moderators ban this user, or I'm unsubscribing. The signal-to-noise ratio is just too low at the moment and it's wasting my time. Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. Alan -- Alan, Things are not as bleak as you seem to think. I am a regular reader and occasional contributor to this list and have been for years. True, from time to time we attract some world class trolls. But I have learned more about Linux, Fedora, and computers in general from this list than any other single source. I've seen people ask questions, some very technical ones, on a very wide variety of Linux/Fedora topics and get good answers within minutes. This list is far from useless. It's a fantastic resource and I want to thank everyone here for all the help they have given me either directly to my questions or indirectly through helping someone else. Dennis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org I agree with Dennis. I keep a file of useful threads that I expect to need someday. Just reading through many of the discussions has been useful. Thanks to everyone who patiently documents the steps to solve some of these issues. I also found some of this user's posts to be interesting, but obviously she does not stay on subject well. I will continue to read posts on this list, and hopefully contribute something useful at some point. Christina -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 03:38:15PM +, JB wrote: Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl writes: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 11:27:11AM +, Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. FWIW, I'm willing to moderate (after effect, doesn't have to be done before the post arrives to the mailing list). I do so already for GNOME. Anyone know whom in Fedora decides this / hands out / approves listadmin permissions? In GNOME I just do because I am able (sysadmin). Olav, with all due respect ... Sure about that? :P Because you are GNOME list moderator, does not qualify you to be one for this list. It seems you missed the FWIW, I'm willing in above quote? For anyone reading along: At the Desktop Summit at least 10 people thanked me personally for the moderation I do on the GNOME mailing lists. Also get a thanks in the presentation of the GNOME foundation meeting (during GUADEC Desktop Summit). As a matter of fact, you should distance yourself from GNOME after all that DE garbage they delivered to Fedora users, all over the world. I do not see the link between this and with all due respect. So, thank you, but NO thank you ! I see your email more as encouragement than anything else[1] Anyway, if anyone could just reply to my question (who decides).. more constructive. -- Regards, Olav [1] For other lurkers: Banned JD on some GNOME mailing list. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 autofs + wireless
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 23:28 +0800, Ian Chapman wrote: Hi, A bit of background first :) I have a netbook which connects to my LAN via a Wifi connection and I've configured autofs to pull it's maps from an LDAP directory. The network connection is working exactly as expected and receives a reserved IP address assigned by DHCP. The network connection is handled by NetworkManager and is configured as the default connection, to connect automatically and importantly an IPv4 address is required in order for the connection to be considered successful. Autofs also works as expected if I manually (re)start the service, it pulls it maps and I can mount NFS exports. Autofs is configured to start on boot. The problem is at the point when it starts on boot it does not work because the netbook has not been assigned an IP address yet, (although the wifi interface is up). eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 90:A4:DE:49:42:31 inet6 addr: fe80::92a4:deff:fe49:39ca/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:0 (0.0 b) Interrupt:16 (Yes eth1 is the Wifi interface) The autofs init script seems to require the network to be working before it starts, ie: # Required-Start: $network $ypbind and in order for the network connection to be successful it needs an IPv4 address. So my question is, why does autofs get started before an IPv4 address has been made available? Is there a reasonable way to fix this? -- Ian Chapman. Does this help ? Used it for hardwired but not wireless systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service Also used these Brilliant tools for analysing/reducing boot times Present in standard install http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/blame-game.html systemd-analyze blame and systemd-analyze plot plot.svg; eog plot.svg John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Olav Vitters olav at vitters.nl writes: ... For anyone reading along: At the Desktop Summit at least 10 people thanked me personally for the moderation I do on the GNOME mailing lists. Also get a thanks in the presentation of the GNOME foundation meeting (during GUADEC Desktop Summit). Who gives a penny about that here, may I ask ? This is a Fedora users list. As a matter of fact, you should distance yourself from GNOME after all that DE garbage they delivered to Fedora users, all over the world. I do not see the link between this and with all due respect. I do not think you are up to the task if you are confused about the above ... This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather good job on the Gnome lists I've seen. I'm not sure I agree with all his choices but he does manage to stop them turning into junk despite them being full of umm 'characters'. Alan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 01:33:15PM -0200, ferna...@lozano.eti.br wrote: Hi, I have one of those and Installed many Fedora reseases. Currently it's running F14 with compiz enabled (!) I've installed Fedora 10, 11, 12, 13, and 14 on my eeepc 901. Mine has a 4 gig SSD and a (slower) 16 gig SSD. Using the live cd I've put / and /boot on the 4 gig and everything else on the 16 gig. It's tight, and there's not a lot of room to install massive packages. e.g., I've not put on the open office/libre office stuff, nor development tools. the other way is to let fedora configure the entire thing as one big LVM then partition that into /boot, /, and /home. Original Message From: Sam Varshavchik mr...@courier-mta.com To: For users of Fedora Core releases users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Qua, Jan 4, 2012, 11:19 AM Subject: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900 I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image, I'd think, the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel will know what to do with the funky SSD drive in that thing.-BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- -- --- .Fred Smith / ( /__ ,__. __ __ / __ : / // / /__) / / /__) .+' Home: fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us // (__ (___ (__(_ (___ / :__ 781-438-5471 Jude 1:24,25 - -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather good job on the Gnome lists I've seen. I'm not sure I agree with all his choices but he does manage to stop them turning into junk despite them being full of umm 'characters'. Alan Alan, how is his GNOME achievement related to this list ? By making himself available to this list with the justification as he did it, he showed that he is a complete buffoon ! I say to him once again - get lost ! JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
On 01/04/2012 08:18 AM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: I've got an old Asus EEE PC 900 model, with the original, ancient Ubuntu on it, whose fate I'm pondering. Has anyone tried installing Fedora on its 4GB SSD drive. That should be big enough to accomodate the live image, I'd think, the only unknown factor is whether the stock Fedora kernel will know what to do with the funky SSD drive in that thing. I think with 4gb your pushing it when getting into preupgrading or updating , where extra space is required. I have a 8gb 900 that I had Fedora on it and I still ran into problems of not having enough extra space. I still had Fedora running and reconized all the hardware with drivers. I also have a EE1000 and I upgraded the 32gb SSD to 64gb Renice SSD, and I put the old 32gb SSD into my EE900 and then installed Fedora 15 on it. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Jim binary...@comcast.net wrote: I think with 4gb your pushing it when getting into preupgrading or updating , where extra space is required. I have a 8gb 900 that I had Fedora on it and I still ran into problems of not having enough extra space. I still had Fedora running and reconized all the hardware with drivers. I also have a EE1000 and I upgraded the 32gb SSD to 64gb Renice SSD, and I put the old 32gb SSD into my EE900 and then installed Fedora 15 on it. I'm a little (lot?) more masochistic. I had 701 4G with a 4G SD card. I created a minimal boot (on the SD card since it was slightly larger) and then the biggest LVM striped volume I could with the remaining space and formatted it BTRFS. Of course this was before I knew enough about BTRFS to know I didn't need LVM :) Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 11:39 AM, JB jb.1234a...@gmail.com wrote: Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather good job on the Gnome lists I've seen. I'm not sure I agree with all his choices but he does manage to stop them turning into junk despite them being full of umm 'characters'. Alan Alan, how is his GNOME achievement related to this list ? By making himself available to this list with the justification as he did it, he showed that he is a complete buffoon ! I say to him once again - get lost ! tough crowd! JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2012 10:39 AM, JB wrote: Alan Cox alan at lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk writes: This is not a list to be moderated by half-witts of your caliber. Get lost. A fine demonstration of why the list needs moderating. Actually Olav does a rather good job on the Gnome lists I've seen. I'm not sure I agree with all his choices but he does manage to stop them turning into junk despite them being full of umm 'characters'. Alan Alan, how is his GNOME achievement related to this list ? By making himself available to this list with the justification as he did it, he showed that he is a complete buffoon ! I say to him once again - get lost ! JB JB, It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think of it as a job reference. Mikkel - -- Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for thou art crunchy and taste good with Ketchup! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8Eh6kACgkQqbQrVW3JyMRamgCfeuhF1pk1Kb7gf/fkbm62kIY5 9mkAnj+fG9hKJd8FMF8N6AyqVtfr7QTb =C1hH -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 1/4/2012 10:50 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: I never paid any attention to what Linda had to say. It was*way* more fun reading reactions to her You sure that was a she? Got a spam message two days ago from a charles mcleod - just saying... I did find all the indignant chest beating pretty funny, too. Also got a lng (8882 words!) private message from 'Linda' attempting to explain herself - about as strange as the posts. It got sent to spam by my spam filter but I just chanced upon it while searching the spam folder in my mail client -- Claude Jones Brunswick, MD, USA -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 2012/01/04 09:16, Claude Jones wrote:
On 1/4/2012 10:50 AM, Ed Greshko wrote:
I never paid any attention to what Linda had to say. It was*way* more
fun reading reactions to her
You sure that was a she? Got a spam message two days ago from a charles mcleod -
just saying...
I did find all the indignant chest beating pretty funny, too.
Also got a lng (8882 words!) private message from 'Linda' attempting to
explain herself - about as strange as the posts. It got sent to spam by my spam
filter but I just chanced upon it while searching the spam folder in my mail
client
She is unable to figure out that the Neal Becker on this list is apparently
Neal D. Becker. Searching for that shows her hysteria is utterly ridiculous
as it appears everybody here had already figured out. Just because our Neal
Becker shares a name with an unsavory police officer (or two?) doesn't show
he's a bad person, too. (I suspect our Neal Becker is a great deal younger,
too.) Linda is apparently a very unstable character who needs to learn more
than a little bit of caution before she spouts off.
{^_^}
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Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... JB, It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think of it as a job reference. Mikkel - -- Mikkel, you are very easy here to set up (because that's what it is) when you want to drive away one mostly incomprehensible poster Linda and to compensate for it with a moderator of GNOME fame (who posted here a couple of times, after which I thought he was on drugs or not entirely alert, which makes him qualified ...). Have you lost your mind here ? JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[SOLVED] Re: F16 autofs + wireless
On 01/05/2012 12:18 AM, John Austin wrote: and in order for the network connection to be successful it needs an IPv4 address. So my question is, why does autofs get started before an IPv4 address has been made available? Is there a reasonable way to fix this? Does this help ? Used it for hardwired but not wireless systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service Perfect! I had to increase the default waiting time from 30 seconds to about 60 seconds but it did the trick. Thanks :-) Also used these Brilliant tools for analysing/reducing boot times Present in standard install http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/blame-game.html systemd-analyze blame and systemd-analyze plot plot.svg; eog plot.svg They are handy tools. When I was first getting used to systemd and generated those huge graphs, I thought that was a pretty neat feature. -- Ian Chapman. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 05:27:08PM +, JB wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... JB, It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think of it as a job reference. Mikkel - -- Mikkel, you are very easy here to set up (because that's what it is) when you want to drive away one mostly incomprehensible poster Linda and to compensate for it with a moderator of GNOME fame (who posted here a couple of times, after which I thought he was on drugs or not entirely alert, which makes him qualified ...). Have you lost your mind here ? JB Can we please focus on technical user help rather than attacking other list members? Thanks in advance. -- Paul W. Frieldshttp://paul.frields.org/ gpg fingerprint: 3DA6 A0AC 6D58 FEC4 0233 5906 ACDB C937 BD11 3717 http://redhat.com/ - - - - http://pfrields.fedorapeople.org/ The open source story continues to grow: http://opensource.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 01/04/2012 08:39 AM, JB wrote: By making himself available to this list with the justification as he did it, he showed that he is a complete buffoon ! I say to him once again - get lost ! Mr. Pot, may I introduce you to my friend Mr. Kettle? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Joe Zeff joe at zeff.us writes: ... Mr. Pot, may I introduce you to my friend Mr. Kettle? Well, welcome to the club. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/04/2012 11:27 AM, JB wrote: Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... JB, It indicates that he can do a good job of moderating a list. Think of it as a job reference. Mikkel - -- Mikkel, you are very easy here to set up (because that's what it is) when you want to drive away one mostly incomprehensible poster Linda and to compensate for it with a moderator of GNOME fame (who posted here a couple of times, after which I thought he was on drugs or not entirely alert, which makes him qualified ...). Have you lost your mind here ? JB You missed the point. Weather moderating this list is a desirable option or not does not affect how well he does as a moderator. Your comment did not address the question of weather this list needs to be moderated, it only addressed his qualifications, and the relevance to this list. Now, as far as hiving lost my mind, no I have not. I have it backed up around here somewhere. :-) Mikkel - -- I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk8En8MACgkQqbQrVW3JyMQUGQCfZoNKghYrFk8mXKMTleIdiH09 K8QAnicN3d47XzHyoxLdpU2DBslPQXT/ =tgka -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SOLVED Re: iptables: block source-ip after connect to port
Am 04.01.2012 06:54, schrieb Reindl Harald: hi i would like to drop all icoming packets of any ip tried to connect to telnet (port 23) which is meant as trap for port-scans, there are some samples out there but i got none of them working until now :-( iptables -N port-scan iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m limit --limit 3/m --limit-burst 5 -j LOG --log-prefix portscan trap: iptables -A port-scan -p tcp --dport 23 --tcp-flags ALL SYN -m recent --update --seconds 60 -j RETURN iptables -A port-scan -j DROP that does the trick (loopback-device and LAN excluded) ports directly before common services whcih are unused triggering and after touching one of them each packet to the machine from the source-ip is rejected for 10 seconds, so if one tries ports from 1-0124 in ascending order he would close port 80 directly before test it this should help to prevent many port-scans PORTSCAN_TRIGGERS=19,23,24,52,79,109,142,442,464,586,992,994 iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo ! -s 10.0.0.0/24 -m recent --name portscan --rcheck --seconds 10 -j REJECT iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo ! -s 10.0.0.0/24 -m recent --name portscan --remove iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo ! -s 10.0.0.0/24 -p tcp -m multiport --destination-port $PORTSCAN_TRIGGERS -m limit --limit 10/m -j LOG --log-prefix Portscan: iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo ! -s 10.0.0.0/24 -p tcp -m multiport --destination-port $PORTSCAN_TRIGGERS -m tcp -m recent --name portscan --set -j REJECT __ the follwoing rules are filtering out a lot of others unwanted packets including alternate techniques of nmap for portscans iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -m state --state INVALID -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL ACK,RST,SYN,FIN -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,FIN SYN,FIN -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN,RST -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags FIN,RST FIN,RST -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags ACK,FIN FIN -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags ACK,PSH PSH -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags ACK,URG URG -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp ! --syn -m state --state NEW -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -f -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL ALL -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL NONE -j DROP iptables -A INPUT ! -i lo -s 127.0.0.0/8 -j DROP signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone tried installing Fedora on the EEE 900
Jim writes: I think with 4gb your pushing it when getting into preupgrading or updating , where extra space is required. I have a 8gb 900 that I had Fedora on it and I still ran into problems of not having enough extra space. I still had Fedora running and reconized all the hardware with drivers. I have no intentions or doing any development, or any serious work on that machine. Just a live install, and using it for nothing more than browsing and reading email. pgp267HDipQqT.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Mikkel L. Ellertson mellertson at gmail.com writes: ... You missed the point. Weather moderating this list is a desirable option or not does not affect how well he does as a moderator. Your comment did not address the question of weather this list needs to be moderated, it only addressed his qualifications, and the relevance to this list. ... I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said it can be easily manipulated into killing it. It is like 19 Arabs and a camel (think of it as Linda) used as a pretext for mass genitals screening and pad-downs :-) I am for restoring Linda to her full list membership, w/o moderation. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
g wrote: On 01/04/2012 03:22 PM, Neal Becker wrote: You know, I would have taken the same view if it wasn't that this had been directed personally at me. Funny how that changes things. I wouldn't be very happy if I just blocked it from my own client but still found this crap broadcast all over. -=- understandable. but do consider if you had filters set up, you would never have known. what you do not know can not hurt you. 8-D what's more, consider source. especially if you have bashed him/her/it. it is really relevant to one simple question; are you black and blue, or, cut up and bleeding? Not yet, but can't wait to say, apply for a job, or a loan, and have someone google me and this shows up. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 1/4/2012 11:08 AM, JB wrote: I am for restoring Linda to her full list membership, w/o moderation. JB a big -1 (as in no) --- this is one of the few times I would consider blinking html (smile) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 04-01-12 20:08, JB wrote: I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said it can be easily manipulated into killing it. IMO that Linda person is killing this list and with the baseless personal attack on Neal this Linda person has shown to be a threat to the reputation of others on this list. Google does not forget so Neal definitely has a point. I'm in favor of moderation. I am for restoring Linda to her full list membership, w/o moderation. I am against restoring Linda. Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Alan Cox wrote: Most people already left for fedora forum and the like. The list is basically not managed so its useless. If you want to fix that you need to take it up with the fedora board I believe. No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this? Enquiring minds want to know. Plot graphs of active contributors to this list and their active time on the list before leaving, compare with the power curve you got from doing it with old data. It speaks volumes. For comparison do the same with the Fedora forums, although there you'll really need to do a bit of statistical sampling as I don't know a polite and reasonable way to pull the needed data and crunch it locally. Maybe it is my ignorance, but I find it much more time-consuming to navigate through a forum than to skim through a newsgroup/mailing list. -- Timothy Murphy e-mail: gayleard /at/ eircom.net tel: +353-86-2336090, +353-1-2842366 s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College Dublin -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 4:04 AM, JB wrote: Paul Allen Newellpnewellat cs.cmu.edu writes: Sleep well, the polarity is still intact :-) Would the following be helpful ? # ls -l /etc/init.d/network -rwxr-xr-x. 1 root root 7448 Feb 25 2011 /etc/init.d/network # file /etc/init.d/network /etc/init.d/network: Bourne-Again shell script text executable # cat /etc/init.d/network #! /bin/bash # # network Bring up/down networking # # chkconfig: - 10 90 # description: Activates/Deactivates all network interfaces configured to \ # start at boot time. # ### BEGIN INIT INFO # Provides: $network # Should-Start: iptables ip6tables # Short-Description: Bring up/down networking # Description: Bring up/down networking ### END INIT INFO # Source function library. . /etc/init.d/functions ... # /etc/init.d/network status Configured devices: lo Currently active devices: lo eth0 # sh /etc/init.d/network status Configured devices: lo Currently active devices: lo eth0 # chmod a-x /etc/init.d/network # ls -al /etc/init.d/network -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 7448 Feb 25 2011 /etc/init.d/network # file /etc/init.d/network /etc/init.d/network: Bourne-Again shell script text executable # /etc/init.d/network status bash: /etc/init.d/network: Permission denied # sh /etc/init.d/network status Configured devices: lo Currently active devices: lo eth0 JB JB: Yes, helpful. I never really learned shell programming, sort of just picked up what I needed on an ad hoc base as I live in C++. So I always stumble when trying to do the simpliest of things. The issue of sh *.sh versus *.sh (with #! inside) is something I am only aware of through a scream and why isn't this working? followed by cut-and-pasting something that is working and hacking it up with knowing why. Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?
Hi; How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in Fedora 16, preferably using the icon-manage extension in dconf-editor if there is such away. Nothing I have tried seems to work. Everything found on the internet is either out of date or doesn't work. -- Regards Bill Fedora 16, Gnome 3.2 Evo.3.2.2, Emacs 23.3.1 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
gdm with smartcards on Fedora 16
With Fedora 16 I don't see how to enable smartcard logins for GDM. I have pcscd and openct working and /etc/pam_pkcs11/pam_pkcs11.conf correctly configured to use opensc. pklogin_finder returns the right things and I can log in at the console login prompt. I have gdm-3.2.1.1-8.fc16.x86_64 installed and this has includes files like /usr/libexec/gdm-smartcard-worker. How do I enable smartcard login? Anthony. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?
On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:04:16PM -0500, William Case wrote: How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in Fedora 16, preferably using the icon-manage extension in dconf-editor if there is such away. Nothing I have tried seems to work. Everything found on the internet is either out of date or doesn't work. There is an extension for that on https://extensions.gnome.org/. Just go there with Firefox. -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 01/04/2012 07:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Not yet, but can't wait to say, apply for a job, or a loan, and have someone google me and this shows up. -=- i did, just for more laughs, look at links Linda post and i did note that search params where not full and correct. if that is among your worries, how it is that you are still working? if not working, why is it you could not mention such on an application that there are some unsavories with similar name and be done with it. besides, do you not think that banks and employers are not already aware and when background checks are run, such checks are run by people who are already aware of such similarities? such paranoia does nothing except give further jollies to Linda's enjoyment. besides, do you really think that what shows up with simple a google search is going to be all that is run? think about it. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?
On 01/04/2012 04:04 PM, William Case wrote: How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in Fedora 16, preferably using the icon-manage extension in dconf-editor if there is such away. Nothing I have tried seems to work. Everything found on the internet is either out of date or doesn't work. And I disabled the universal access in the settings and it is STILL there. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Am 04.01.2012 22:10, schrieb g: On 01/04/2012 07:54 PM, Neal Becker wrote: Not yet, but can't wait to say, apply for a job, or a loan, and have someone google me and this shows up. -=- i did, just for more laughs, look at links Linda post and i did note that search params where not full and correct. if that is among your worries, how it is that you are still working? the point is that Linda needs a psychotherapeuth and not a mailing-list after looking at many of her confused posts - she is not willing or able to realize that this permanently FUD is unwanted signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 1/4/2012 4:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know you and Ed (and Marvin) have been round the block on this, but if you'll allow an oldie to sum up: Makefiles are not normally executables, in fact they aren't normally Shell scripts. Therefore they don't need to have the +x attribute. It's easy to list the Makefiles on your system and check this: ls -l $(locate -b -i '\Makefile') poc poc: Thanks for the additional info. I'm unaware of locate. I have been using find. Took a quick look on man pages and don't really see a difference, but I am not sure. The one thing that sticks out is the running in a directory with a file called Makefile: +++ ls -l $(locate -b -i '\Makefile') +++ doesn't give me anything useful, just a 'ls -l' of the directory. The man pages talks about lists files in databases that match a pattern. What am I missing here? Plus, I don't see a recursion option, leading me to believe that it wants me to be searching something for all info rather than current pwd? find give me what I want, but not with the protections et al info. Tried to figure out a redirect or pipe to have everything from find go into a ls -l, but I am either missing the obvious or its more complicated than I am aware of. Thanks, Paul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Error mount NFS -- nfs4_get_rootfh
On 01/02/2012 04:02:55 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/03/2012 06:20 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: On 01/02/2012 01:19:37 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 01/03/2012 02:51 AM, Geoffrey Leach wrote: mount -v -v -v -t nfs4 mtranch://nfs4exports/home /mtranch-home Cats having me up for a moment again Your mount command isn't what it should be When you mount on the client you don't specify /nfs4exports . It should be mount -v -v -v -t nfs4 mtranch:/home /mtranch-home Corrected. Thanks. Did not make a differenc3e to the RPC errors, but perhaps that is not too surprising. And my thanks to the Cats. OK.. I wrote out what I would have done maybe you can run through it and double check things? OK. I'm going to intersperse my reply. Make sure relevant nfs services are enabled ** On server systemctl is-enabled nfs-lock.service systemctl is-enabled nfs-server.service systemctl is-enabled nfs-idmap.service nfs-idmap.service loaded active running NFSv4 ID-name mapping daemon nfs-lock.service loaded active running NFS file locking service. nfs-server.serviceloaded active running NFS Server Firewall disabled. Shhh - don't tell anybody. Also, make sure Port 2049 is open on the firewall on client, disabled. Verified. ** On client systemctl is-enabled nfs-idmap.service systemctl is-enabled nfs-lock.service Verified Then go on to configure the shares ** Server mkdir -m 1777 /nfs4exports cd /nfs4exports mkdir -m 1777 home mount --bind /home home drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 Dec 31 15:34 /nfs4exports/ drwxrwxrwt. 6 root root 4096 May 18 2011 /nfs4exports/home/ drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 Dec 31 15:34 /nfs4exports/tmp/ drwxrwxrwt 2 root root 4096 Dec 27 16:20 /nfs4exports/usrlocal/ root@mtranch[14]-umount /nfs4exports/tmp/ /nfs4exports/usrlocal/ umount: /nfs4exports/tmp/: not mounted umount: /nfs4exports/usrlocal/: not mounted To make the bind effective a boot time edit /etc/fstab to contain /home /nfs4exports/home nonerw,bind 0 0 #tail /etc/fstab /home /nfs4exports/home nonerw,bind 0 0 vi /etc/idmapd.conf (Modify Domain line, making sure to remove leading #) # The default is the host's DNS domain name. Domain = mtranch.mtranch.com This should be just mtranch.com, yes? vi /etc/exports(Added 2 lines) /nfs4exports 192.168.0.0/24(ro,sync,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) /nfs4exports/home 192.168.0.0/24(rw,nohide,sync,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check) #cat /etc/exports /nfs4exports192.168.0.0/24 (ro,sync,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check,fsid=0) /nfs4exports/home 192.168.0.0/24 (rw,nohide,sync,insecure,root_squash,no_subtree_check) exportfs -rv #exportfs -rv exporting 192.168.0.0/24:/nfs4exports/home exporting 192.168.0.0/24:/nfs4exports ** Client mkdir /mtranch-home Verified Then just mount Connection refused, as before No actual output from the client, as I'm reduced to sneakernet at this point. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 08:06 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: If you want them to be directly executable, yes. But if you call them as input to a shell they need not be. -=- in addition, run this; man . that will give you some more insight to executing files. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 13:23 +, Alan Cox wrote: No doubt some people have done so, but most people? Do you have information on this? Enquiring minds want to know. Plot graphs of active contributors to this list and their active time on the list before leaving, compare with the power curve you got from doing it with old data. It speaks volumes. Well for one thing not all the membership actually posts, and for another people may post for a while and then not. Unless you have access to the list membership database, I'd say the data was too noisy for such a firm conclusion. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
Patrick Lists fedora-list at puzzled.xs4all.nl writes: On 04-01-12 20:08, JB wrote: I think this list should not be moderated at all because as I already said it can be easily manipulated into killing it. IMO that Linda person is killing this list and with the baseless personal attack on Neal this Linda person has shown to be a threat to the reputation of others on this list. Google does not forget so Neal definitely has a point. I'm in favor of moderation. I am for restoring Linda to her full list membership, w/o moderation. I am against restoring Linda. Regards, Patrick Patrick, I do share your disdain for and Neal's concern about Linda's Google searches, etc. But let's be clear about the effectiveness of Linda's actions. By now, any body searching Internet for clues about a person proves to be a lunatic and not qualified in any way to make a judgement regarding that person of interest. After so many years of Internet and Information Revolution most people know that there is a lot of garbage out there. That is not to say that Linda's actions should be ignored. But we should not throw out the baby with the water. First you throw out a trouuble maker, later your opponent, and after a w hile you are the only one left on the list. We can survive Linda on this list. Linda, please stop harassing somebody whose identity you do not even know. You cross a line. JB -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Another Fedora 16 + Gnome 3.2 question!?
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 22:10 +0100, Olav Vitters wrote: On Wed, Jan 04, 2012 at 04:04:16PM -0500, William Case wrote: How do I get rid of the Universal Access icon in the upper right hand corner/panel? Googled but seems every distribution has a different answer. How do I get rid of it in Fedora 16, preferably using the icon-manage extension in dconf-editor if there is such away. Nothing I have tried seems to work. Everything found on the internet is either out of date or doesn't work. There is an extension for that on https://extensions.gnome.org/. Just go there with Firefox. In F15, this is gnome-shell-extension-remove-accessibility-icon.noarch. -- Matthew Saltzman Clemson University Mathematical Sciences mjs AT clemson DOT edu -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Neal Becker Software Package..?
On 04-01-12 22:10, g wrote: besides, do you really think that what shows up with simple a google search is going to be all that is run? A company that does background checks told me that cutting corners is exactly what happens in their industry. A quick Google? Check. Searched Facebook? Check. Twitter? Check. Create fancy looking report with leet profiling speak and a breakdown of keywords? Check. Mail fancy report with invoice to client? Check Profit. So the answer to your question depends on which company has been hired to do the background check but definitely can be yes. And as such it could very well have a negative impact on Neal in the Big Blue Room. think about it. Guess you should too. Regards, Patrick -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On Wed, 2012-01-04 at 13:19 -0800, Paul Allen Newell wrote: On 1/4/2012 4:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know you and Ed (and Marvin) have been round the block on this, but if you'll allow an oldie to sum up: Makefiles are not normally executables, in fact they aren't normally Shell scripts. Therefore they don't need to have the +x attribute. It's easy to list the Makefiles on your system and check this: ls -l $(locate -b -i '\Makefile') poc poc: Thanks for the additional info. I'm unaware of locate. I have been using find. Took a quick look on man pages and don't really see a difference, but I am not sure. They're quite different but overlap to some extent. 'find' is the reliable way of searching the current system according to a whole bunch of criteria (man find). 'locate' just does a quick search on a database which is updated regularly (usually nightly) by the updatedb program. The difference is that locate is very fast, but of course it only tells you what existed at the time the database was updated. You really need both programs at different times. The one thing that sticks out is the running in a directory with a file called Makefile: +++ ls -l $(locate -b -i '\Makefile') +++ doesn't give me anything useful, just a 'ls -l' of the directory. The man pages talks about lists files in databases that match a pattern. What am I missing here? Nothing. 'locate' is just doing what it's defined to do (man locate). I gave a quick and dirty example of how to use it, without considering the case of directories named Makefile since they aren't that usual. You could modify my example to skip such directories but I doubt it's worth the effort unless this is something you're going to be doing frequently. Plus, I don't see a recursion option, leading me to believe that it wants me to be searching something for all info rather than current pwd? Again, 'man locate'. find give me what I want, but not with the protections et al info. Tried to figure out a redirect or pipe to have everything from find go into a ls -l, but I am either missing the obvious or its more complicated than I am aware of. find args | xargs ls -l or ls -l $(find args) poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 08:22 AM, Paul Allen Newell wrote: And that's the confusion on my end. You are stating that Marvin says make it +x and you are saying it doesn't need to be. I asked this dumb question to find out how I should treat this situation regardless of what works. Its about understanding whether a makefile is an executable or if make is just treating it as input and the executable part is under the hood. -=- in addition to; [man|info] . have a look at; [man|info] make [man|info] bash [man|info] tcsh *note* .sh = bash .csh = tcsh to save your self time, try running '[man|info] word/command' to see how something work. then when you get confused, post to list for further confusion. 8-D -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On Wed, 04 Jan 2012 13:19:51 -0800, PAN (Paul) wrote: On 1/4/2012 4:38 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I know you and Ed (and Marvin) have been round the block on this, but if you'll allow an oldie to sum up: Makefiles are not normally executables, in fact they aren't normally Shell scripts. Therefore they don't need to have the +x attribute. It's easy to list the Makefiles on your system and check this: ls -l $(locate -b -i '\Makefile') poc poc: Thanks for the additional info. I'm unaware of locate. I have been using find. Took a quick look on man pages and don't really see a difference, but I am not sure. Read man locate again then and more carefully? Pay extra attention to the first sentence? ;-) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dumb question
On 01/04/2012 09:36 PM, g wrote: an addition to give you something to consider... there is no such thing as a 'dumb question'. when unsure about something, one should always ask questions to prevent making 'dumb errors' and 'dumb mistakes'. what is _dumb_ is using just 'dumb question' as the only wording in Subject: line. if you ran a google search with Subject: dumb question as search parameter, you would get hits in millions, if not billions. Subject: question about makefile files would have been better and make for easier and better searching for someone else. hth. -- peace out. tc.hago, g . *please reply plain text only. html text are deleted* in a free world without fences, who needs gates. ** help microsoft stamp out piracy - give linux to a friend today. ** to mess up a linux box, you need to work at it. to mess up an ms windows box, you just need to *look* at it. ** The installation instructions stated to install Windows 2000 or better. So I installed Linux. ** learn linux: 'Rute User's Tutorial and Exposition' http://rute.2038bug.com/index.html 'The Linux Documentation Project' http://www.tldp.org/ 'LDP HOWTO-index' http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/index.html 'HowtoForge' http://howtoforge.com/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
