Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
As an aside, My daughter developed a Moodle site for a school project and wants her school to move to Moodle but they are fixated on something called a VLA, which is not a patch on Moodle and has few if any of Moodle's capabilities. That is very nice! I have worked in eLearning since 98, and Moodle has been my favourite platform from the OpenSource ones since it's been available. OF course I have to offer different solutions to my clients, some just will not install OpenSource (don't ask, I have no idea why would they have such a requirement), others just say we want platform X, you build it but I always offer Moodle as a safe choice. Please let us know how you are progressing. Roger Well, no progress. I haven't had the time. And now I need to finish my first course in the local Moodle to be able to show it, so the data folder it is still located under /var. In some point when I have time -or a full partition, whichever comes first- , I'll try again to move it to /home Thanks to all Ester -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: glxgear and glxinfo confusion
On Tuesday 24 January 2012 01:12 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: On Monday 23 January 2012 15:43:38 Jatin K wrote: On Monday 23 January 2012 03:22 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: Nothing seems to be wrong with your X setup, AFAICS. What problem are you experiencing? There is no issue... I was just comparing my two laptop's performance both are Dell, one is core-i5 with ATI 1GB dedicated memory and another is core-i7 with Intel HD 3000 graphics so just checking the performance and tried the glxgears command and seen the big difference in FPS I always found the output of glxgears quite confusing, to say the least. If you think logically --- your screen displays a picture 60 times in one second, and some graphics cards (like Intel) render the frames in the same rythm, to display the images of the gears animation 60 times per second. OTOH, there are graphics cards like ATI, which render cca 4000 gears images every second, out of which only 60 get to be displayed on the screen, while all others are skipped. I find this to be a terrible waste of card resources (and energy), without any benefit whatsoever. That is, assuming one can actually trust the glxgears output numbers. good clarification thanks And in spite of the above, people generally consider the 4000 fps to be better than 60 fps. myself too.. I never understood this. But then again, one cannot understand everything in life anyway... ;-) thats the low of nature ...no one can understand everything Best, :-) Marko -- °v° /(_)\ ^ ^ Jatin Khatri RHCSA,RHCE,CCNA Registerd Linux user No #501175 www.counter.li.org No M$ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum concurrency - Multiple instances at the same time
You can run it as different users. That is useful if you are doing updates as root and you want to do queries at the same time (as a normal user). Be aware that they will step on eachother's toes because one will have a lock on the RPM database and the other will want it. I think as a non-privileged user the system yum meta cache wouldn't be used but rather a freshly downloaded temporary version by default As such those two should be able to run concurrently - but only the root could make changes with the other user using its metadata cache for search info etc only -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Invoking a client side process from server side
I am developing a c based client server application which enables the system administrator to install applications in the client machines from the server itself.Now i want the server side component(process) to send a signal to activate a client side process.(ie, the client side process should start running on receiving the signal from server side).Should the client side process be registered to client side os? If yes how to do that? Please help me out.. Thanking you -- * Shreyas.M * -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 14:30 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. Try running the printing troubleshooter: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Printing/Debugging#Printing_troubleshooter Tim. */ signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Invoking a client side process from server side
On 01/24/2012 05:25 PM, shreyas m wrote: I am developing a c based client server application which enables the system administrator to install applications in the client machines from the server itself.Now i want the server side component(process) to send a signal to activate a client side process.(ie, the client side process should start running on receiving the signal from server side).Should the client side process be registered to client side os? If yes how to do that? Please help me out.. Thanking you -- / / Well, if you want to start a process on the client side by sending a signal then you need something listening on the client side for the signal. Maybe you want to use xinetd on the client side. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 changes
Around 01:35am on Tuesday, January 24, 2012 (UK time), Timothy Murphy scrawled: Michael Hennebry wrote: The new lower limit of 1000 for normal user and group IDs is another issue. The current user has IDs 500 and has rather a lot of files that I want to keep. Fedora's documentation says to use a kickstart file to keep 500. How? If it's documented anywhere, I can't find it. From what I've read, %post won't work. IDs from the 500-999 range will already have been allocated. 'Tain't obvious that %pre would work either. If %pre runs before everything else, /etc won't exist yet. I'm in a similar situation, where I have UID 1000 on my Fedora laptop, and 500 on the CentOS server. I'm wondering if there is any simple way of changing my CentOS ID to 1000? I'm thinking of setting up a new CentOS user with ID 1000, moving all my files to the new user, removing my old user entry, and finally changing the username of the new user back to me. I did something very similar to this, although I chnaged the UID of my CentOS user, rather than create then rename a new user. This has worked fine. The following is copied from my changelog and shows what I did. Note steve is my user on the CentOS box, which NFS exports certain directories to my Fedora workstations. Steve 22/11/11 With Fedora 16 the UID and GID allocation for user accounts start from a value of 1000, instead of 500. To keep these synchronised between quail and the Fedora workstations, /etc/login.defs needs to be changed to reflect this new policy. # cd /etc # cp login.defs login.defs.old # vim login.defs ... # diff login.defs login.defs.old 25c25 UID_MIN 1000 --- UID_MIN 500 31c31 GID_MIN 1000 --- GID_MIN 500 The UID and GID for steve needs to be changed from 500 to 1000. This can't be done while anyone is logged in as steve, so I logged out of the system monitoring console and created a new user, mrcursor, to login as before using su to change to root. This was created as UID 1001 as I wanted to reserve 1000 for steve. # useradd -u 1001 mrcursor # passwd mrcursor ... Allow remote logon. # cd /home/mrcursor # cp /home/steve/.ssh/ . # chown -R mrcursor:mrcursor .ssh Now log in as mrcursor. Ensure there GID 1000 and UID 1000 don't exist. # grep 1000 /etc/group # grep 1000 /etc/passwd Show passwd and group entries for steve. # grep steve /etc/passwd steve:x:500:500::/home/steve:/bin/bash # grep steve /etc/group steve:x:500: webeditors:x:503:steve,champs,lackey img:x:506:steve,lackey Change GID and UID. # groupmod -g 1000 steve # usermod -g 1000 -u 1000 steve Show passwd and group entries for steve. # grep steve /etc/passwd steve:x:1000:1000::/home/steve:/bin/bash # grep steve /etc/group steve:x:1000: webeditors:x:503:steve,champs,lackey img:x:506:steve,lackey The ownership of any files in my home directory were changed by the usermod command. But other files had to have their ownership changed manually. The find command can be used to identify these. find / -user 500 -print ... find / -user group -print ... Files in /var/tmp were ignored. To change ownership: # chown -R --from 500:500 steve:steve /var/www # chown -R --from 500 steve /var/www # chown -R --from 500 steve /img # chown -R --from=500 steve /etc # chown -R --from=500 steve /var/spool/cron # chown -R --from=:500 :steve /img # chown -R --from=:500 :steve /etc Similarly change the webeditors group to have GUID 1004 instead of 503. # groupmod -g 1004 webeditors # chown -R --from=:503 :webeditors /var/www -- Website: www.stevesearle.com Twitter: @ReddishShift Facebook: www.facebook.com/steve.searle 12:00:23 up 12 days, 10 min, 1 user, load average: 0.01, 0.03, 0.00 pgplTapd34aof.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Yum concurrency - Multiple instances at the same time
On 23 January 2012 16:10, Freak Trick trickfr...@ymail.com wrote: Is there some way I can get more than one instance of yum running? I use multiple instances of zif quite a lot, although you still have to lock the rpmdb if writing and metadata if refreshing, although most of the stuff I do is operating from a cache. Be aware, zif is experimental software. Patches welcome if it's broken :) Richard. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. What make of printer do you have ? In the Printer Properties, the Printer State what does it say there when you try to print Test page ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On 01/24/2012 07:43 AM, Jim wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. What make of printer do you have ? In the Printer Properties, the Printer State what does it say there when you try to print Test page ? Brother MFC-J615W It goes through the gymnastics of printing but never reach the printer itself. I have un-installed and re-installed and on a recent thread include the troubleshoot results. Thanks for your concern and response. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: glxgear and glxinfo confusion
On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:58 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: Motion Pictures are shown at 32 fps and nobody complains about flickering Not quite. Films are usually shot at 24 frames per second, and shown back at a multiple of that. i.e. Each frame is usually strobed two or three times, so that you see 48 or 72 frames per second. That makes the strobing mostly unnoticeable to most people. Higher strobe rates could be used, but then you'd have a dimmer picture (the light being on for less per second, in total, than other rates). (I work in video/television production, and occasionally get to play with film, too. And just last night, had the pleasure of restoring a vintage 4-plate 16mm Steenbeck to working condition, to the delight of the owner.) there are people who claim that anything less than 70 fps on their monitor flickers. It depends on the monitor. CRTs have a short persistence screen that glows for X microseconds, and fades away. The persistence rate can be manufactured to suit how many frames per second the screen will be used at. Multiscan monitors are less optimal, it'll try to have a persistence rate long enough that the slowest scan speeds don't show motion blurred pictures, and so that highest scan rates don't flicker. But they don't always manage that, or manufacturers might just use an unsuitable tube. Hence why people notice how their computer monitor may flicker horribly at a 60 Hertz rate, yet their home TV doesn't noticeably flicker, but runs at the same 60 Hertz rate. Likewise for people in 50 Hertz countries. You can find, as I did, that some multiscan monitors are horrible at their fastest rate, giving me a migraine in moments. Yet okay at one of the middle rates. It's not just that you notice a flicker, but it's at a rate that disagrees with some brainwaves. Perhaps in conjunction with some other strobing source in the room (such as a beat pattern between the screen and fluorescent lighting, all running at different rates). I suppose the easiest way to give an analogy of that is with sound waves. Many people find fingernails scratched down a blackboard to be cringeworthy, yet other people are not bothered by them in the slightest. It's not a particularly loud sound, but it just happens to trigger an unpleasant reaction. And if you change the pitch of the squeal, a bit, and you change how that affects people. LCDs, and some other flat panel technologies, don't really strobe at you. The pixels are illuminated as required for the picture, and stay at that illumination until they're redrawn by the next frame. I've always considered them the video equivalent of the audiophule, Was that a mispelling of audiofile, or a joke of audio+fool? ;-) who claims he can hear the difference between regular cables and gold ones even after a scope shows the output to be identical and he's seen the display of the two sine waves. Well, some measurement techniques do not show up certain audio issues. But I agree that you just ain't gonna hear the difference between gold and aluminium audio wires, simply because they're different metals. Nor are you gonna hear various other silly differences. You can notice differences when there's resistance changes, as anything louder sounds slightly better (as a subjective comment). But then you can simply turn your volume control up a tad, and have exactly the same effect, without buying $400 speaker cables. Just where in the chain cables can have an effect depends on various things. Resistance in the speaker wires affects speaker damping (unwanted bass speaker resonance) as well as volume. Resistance and capacitance in the wiring between amplifiers and other decks can affect tone, depending on the design of the circuit around them (capacitance across high impedance circuitry can muffle the treble). But it'd have to be pretty awful cable to become seriously noticeable. A true audiophile knows that the weakest link is actually the speaker, itself. Transducers are not perfect, and some are far worse than others. And $400 cables aren't gonna get around whatever wiring has been used inside the cabinet, either. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F16 changes
On Tue, 24 Jan 2012, Alan Cox wrote: I'm thinking of setting up a new CentOS user with ID 1000, moving all my files to the new user, removing my old user entry, and finally changing the username of the new user back to me. This works. You may also need to change the ownership of /var/mail/username and move any quota files over as wanted. I had briefly considered changing the GIDs and UIDs of the files, but felt certain that even with find, I would screw up a massive change like that. Changing login.defs would be a change in only one place IF I COULD FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. Redhat says to use a kickstart file, but says nothing at all about how to use said file to affect login.defs . Quite irritating. -- Michael henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu On Monday, I'm gonna have to tell my kindergarten class, whom I teach not to run with scissors, that my fiance ran me through with a broadsword. -- Lily -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On 01/24/2012 10:03 AM, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:43 AM, Jim wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. What make of printer do you have ? In the Printer Properties, the Printer State what does it say there when you try to print Test page ? Brother MFC-J615W It goes through the gymnastics of printing but never reach the printer itself. I have un-installed and re-installed and on a recent thread include the troubleshoot results. Thanks for your concern and response. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. I have a Samsung CLX-3175FN that does the same in Fedora 16. It is detected but won't print. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 08:03 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:43 AM, Jim wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. What make of printer do you have ? In the Printer Properties, the Printer State what does it say there when you try to print Test page ? Brother MFC-J615W It goes through the gymnastics of printing but never reach the printer itself. I have un-installed and re-installed and on a recent thread include the troubleshoot results. Thanks for your concern and response. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. I'm jumping in late here but did you look for a PPD file on Brother's web site? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On 01/24/2012 09:16 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 08:03 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:43 AM, Jim wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. What make of printer do you have ? In the Printer Properties, the Printer State what does it say there when you try to print Test page ? Brother MFC-J615W It goes through the gymnastics of printing but never reach the printer itself. I have un-installed and re-installed and on a recent thread include the troubleshoot results. Thanks for your concern and response. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. I'm jumping in late here but did you look for a PPD file on Brother's web site? Yes, this particular printer does not show a ppd file unless I am looking in the wrong place or don't know what to look for. Please help. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: printing landscape -- hp laserjet p3005dn, hp lasejet color 2600n
Removed ghostscript, which removed cups and redefined the printers. Both printers worked for landscape and portrait mode using enscript. When I test with firefox portrait works, landscaping google's main page I get the left half of the page in on one page and right half on another in portrait mode. LiibreOffice seems to work for both orientations. Gonna give up for now and try the reinstall gshostscript/cups on all machines and redef of all printers. Seem upgrades to fedora always cause some basic function to brake, but I've been upgrading these systems since fc9. In the past it was alway video, now seem to have switched to printing. There have been releases that just worked, but that's a lot of software changes. On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 6:01 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 01/24/2012 09:30 AM, gary artim wrote: will check tomorrow when I get in the office. I've been using cups (localhost:631) or lpadmin to config the printer, maybe I should stay clear of these? and use system-config-printer. at a lose as to what is happening. could be i need to set debugging in cups to see whats what...I havent tested with enscript to see if its apps related..g. I generally only use cups myself. But, I happened to notice that s-c-p has settings had a orientation settings. Seemed like something to check. -- Do not condemn the judgment of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong. -- Dandemis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 09:23 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 09:16 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 08:03 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:43 AM, Jim wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. What make of printer do you have ? In the Printer Properties, the Printer State what does it say there when you try to print Test page ? Brother MFC-J615W It goes through the gymnastics of printing but never reach the printer itself. I have un-installed and re-installed and on a recent thread include the troubleshoot results. Thanks for your concern and response. I found these rpms buried on a brother site mfcj280wcupswrapper mfcj280wlpr after a google search of your model name and ppd The mfcj280wlpr is a prereq for the jfcj280wcupswrapper which contains the ppd file. I really think that the ppd would be all you would need just manually specify the ppd file rather than choose the driver. Also, did you try a generic postscript driver as well? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On 01/24/2012 09:46 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 09:23 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 09:16 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 08:03 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:43 AM, Jim wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. What make of printer do you have ? In the Printer Properties, the Printer State what does it say there when you try to print Test page ? Brother MFC-J615W It goes through the gymnastics of printing but never reach the printer itself. I have un-installed and re-installed and on a recent thread include the troubleshoot results. Thanks for your concern and response. I found these rpms buried on a brother site mfcj280wcupswrapper mfcj280wlpr after a google search of your model name and ppd The mfcj280wlpr is a prereq for the jfcj280wcupswrapper which contains the ppd file. I really think that the ppd would be all you would need just manually specify the ppd file rather than choose the driver. Also, did you try a generic postscript driver as well? I go to the brothers website and get the drivers for Linux which have worked until Fedora 16. The generic drivers don't work. They actually stop working when the last two kernel updates came out. Did you look at the thread I sent with troubleshoot file. -- Lawrence Graves All things are workable but don't all things work. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
I have a Broadcom wlan 4312 [14e4:4315] in my laptop. After the latest kernel update to kernel-3.2.1-13 I decided to install the necessary firmware heeding the following dmesg output: [ 82.515047] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515054] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515060] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. The website suggests downloading broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2 if using the b43 driver from the 3.2 kernel. I did that but then this happens: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5sum e1b05e268bcdbfef3560c28fc161f30 b43-fwcutter in Fed 16 is version 0.14 and indeed the FW15 file supported by b43-fwcutter version 0.14 has a different md5sum. The wireless.kernel.org site also advices using b43-fwcutter version 0.15 but this version does not seem to be available for fed 16. Can this be the problem? AV -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 24/01/12 17:05, Alexander Volovics wrote: I have a Broadcom wlan 4312 [14e4:4315] in my laptop. http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 remove or unload the broadcom-wl driver prior to using b43 You device is supported by b43 http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#other_distros -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 01/24/2012 12:05 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: I have a Broadcom wlan 4312 [14e4:4315] in my laptop. After the latest kernel update to kernel-3.2.1-13 I decided to install the necessary firmware heeding the following dmesg output: [ 82.515047] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515054] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515060] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. The website suggests downloading broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2 if using the b43 driver from the 3.2 kernel. I did that but then this happens: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5sum e1b05e268bcdbfef3560c28fc161f30 b43-fwcutter in Fed 16 is version 0.14 and indeed the FW15 file supported by b43-fwcutter version 0.14 has a different md5sum. The wireless.kernel.org site also advices using b43-fwcutter version 0.15 but this version does not seem to be available for fed 16. Can this be the problem? and ejn AV You want ito nstall kmod-wl and it will install all dependencies . Then you want to go into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and enter blacklist b43-fwcutter w/o quotes -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 01/24/2012 06:22 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: On 24/01/12 17:05, Alexander Volovics wrote: I have a Broadcom wlan 4312 [14e4:4315] in my laptop. http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 remove or unload the broadcom-wl driver prior to using b43 You device is supported by b43 http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#other_distros I never had the broadcom-wl driver loaded! This is what I have: lsmod |grep b43 b43 357090 0 mac80211 301459 1 b43 cfg80211 190854 2 b43,mac80211 bcma 25831 1 b43 ssb61266 1 b43 mmc_core 100913 2 b43,ssb And the problem is that I can't extract the needed firmware, repeat: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5sum e1b05e268bcdbfef3560c28fc161f30 AV AV -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 24/01/12 17:35, Alexander Volovics wrote: I never had the broadcom-wl driver loaded! My mistake. And the problem is that I can't extract the needed firmware, repeat: I think Jim replied, with possibly better solution. -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: glxgear and glxinfo confusion
On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 01:42 +1030, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:58 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: Motion Pictures are shown at 32 fps and nobody complains about flickering Not quite. Films are usually shot at 24 frames per second, and shown back at a multiple of that. i.e. Each frame is usually strobed two or three times, so that you see 48 or 72 frames per second. That makes the strobing mostly unnoticeable to most people. Higher strobe rates could be used, but then you'd have a dimmer picture (the light being on for less per second, in total, than other rates). (I work in video/television production, and occasionally get to play with film, too. And just last night, had the pleasure of restoring a vintage 4-plate 16mm Steenbeck to working condition, to the delight of the owner.) there are people who claim that anything less than 70 fps on their monitor flickers. It depends on the monitor. CRTs have a short persistence screen that glows for X microseconds, and fades away. The persistence rate can be manufactured to suit how many frames per second the screen will be used at. Multiscan monitors are less optimal, it'll try to have a persistence rate long enough that the slowest scan speeds don't show motion blurred pictures, and so that highest scan rates don't flicker. But they don't always manage that, or manufacturers might just use an unsuitable tube. Hence why people notice how their computer monitor may flicker horribly at a 60 Hertz rate, yet their home TV doesn't noticeably flicker, but runs at the same 60 Hertz rate. Likewise for people in 50 Hertz countries. You can find, as I did, that some multiscan monitors are horrible at their fastest rate, giving me a migraine in moments. Yet okay at one of the middle rates. It's not just that you notice a flicker, but it's at a rate that disagrees with some brainwaves. Perhaps in conjunction with some other strobing source in the room (such as a beat pattern between the screen and fluorescent lighting, all running at different rates). I suppose the easiest way to give an analogy of that is with sound waves. Many people find fingernails scratched down a blackboard to be cringeworthy, yet other people are not bothered by them in the slightest. It's not a particularly loud sound, but it just happens to trigger an unpleasant reaction. And if you change the pitch of the squeal, a bit, and you change how that affects people. LCDs, and some other flat panel technologies, don't really strobe at you. The pixels are illuminated as required for the picture, and stay at that illumination until they're redrawn by the next frame. I've always considered them the video equivalent of the audiophule, Was that a mispelling of audiofile, or a joke of audio+fool? ;-) who claims he can hear the difference between regular cables and gold ones even after a scope shows the output to be identical and he's seen the display of the two sine waves. Well, some measurement techniques do not show up certain audio issues. But I agree that you just ain't gonna hear the difference between gold and aluminium audio wires, simply because they're different metals. Nor are you gonna hear various other silly differences. You can notice differences when there's resistance changes, as anything louder sounds slightly better (as a subjective comment). But then you can simply turn your volume control up a tad, and have exactly the same effect, without buying $400 speaker cables. Just where in the chain cables can have an effect depends on various things. Resistance in the speaker wires affects speaker damping (unwanted bass speaker resonance) as well as volume. Resistance and capacitance in the wiring between amplifiers and other decks can affect tone, depending on the design of the circuit around them (capacitance across high impedance circuitry can muffle the treble). But it'd have to be pretty awful cable to become seriously noticeable. A true audiophile knows that the weakest link is actually the speaker, itself. Transducers are not perfect, and some are far worse than others. And $400 cables aren't gonna get around whatever wiring has been used inside the cabinet, either. One thing I have to interject here is that a 'scope ( Oscilloscope) will not show you the fidelity of a signal. You need a spectrum analyzer. You cannot easily see less than about 1% distortion or phase errors on an Oscilloscope, yet the human ear is capable of about 60dB detection of both phase and amplitude. Some people are even better than that. For reference 60dB (power) means a noise level of 7uv on a 7v signal (about 6w on 8 ohms.) The human senses are remarkably sensitive, and those who have greater than normal capabilities are truly capable of discerning minute differences between similar things. Regards, Les H -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 01/24/2012 06:33 PM, Jim wrote: On 01/24/2012 12:05 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: I have a Broadcom wlan 4312 [14e4:4315] in my laptop. After the latest kernel update to kernel-3.2.1-13 I decided to install the necessary firmware heeding the following dmesg output: [ 82.515047] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515054] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515060] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. The website suggests downloading broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2 if using the b43 driver from the 3.2 kernel. I did that but then this happens: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5sum e1b05e268bcdbfef3560c28fc161f30 b43-fwcutter in Fed 16 is version 0.14 and indeed the FW15 file supported by b43-fwcutter version 0.14 has a different md5sum. The wireless.kernel.org site also advices using b43-fwcutter version 0.15 but this version does not seem to be available for fed 16. Can this be the problem? You want ito nstall kmod-wl and it will install all dependencies . Then you want to go into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and enter blacklist b43-fwcutter w/o quotes Why would I do that? I already have a driver b43 from the new kernel-3.2 loaded and this seems to be the advised driver, not the wl driver. I am just missing the firmware! AV -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 01/24/2012 12:43 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On 01/24/2012 06:33 PM, Jim wrote: On 01/24/2012 12:05 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: I have a Broadcom wlan 4312 [14e4:4315] in my laptop. After the latest kernel update to kernel-3.2.1-13 I decided to install the necessary firmware heeding the following dmesg output: [ 82.515047] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515054] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515060] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. The website suggests downloading broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2 if using the b43 driver from the 3.2 kernel. I did that but then this happens: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5sum e1b05e268bcdbfef3560c28fc161f30 b43-fwcutter in Fed 16 is version 0.14 and indeed the FW15 file supported by b43-fwcutter version 0.14 has a different md5sum. The wireless.kernel.org site also advices using b43-fwcutter version 0.15 but this version does not seem to be available for fed 16. Can this be the problem? You want ito nstall kmod-wl and it will install all dependencies . Then you want to go into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and enter blacklist b43-fwcutter w/o quotes Why would I do that? I already have a driver b43 from the new kernel-3.2 loaded and this seems to be the advised driver, not the wl driver. I am just missing the firmware! AV Just try what i said and I think You will *Like it . Someone FINALLY got around to take the b43-cutter out of Fedora. * -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printer not working
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 10:03 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 09:46 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 09:23 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 09:16 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 08:03 -0700, Lawrence Graves wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:43 AM, Jim wrote: On 01/23/2012 04:30 PM, Lawrence Graves wrote: I just notice when I ask my printer to print a test page nothing happens. Could somebody shed some light on this problem. There are no error messages formulated to send in. Sorry, I did say I was jumping into the thread late. Sounds like you need to take the issue up with Brother. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 01/24/2012 06:53 PM, Jim wrote: You want ito nstall kmod-wl and it will install all dependencies . Then you want to go into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and enter blacklist b43-fwcutter w/o quotes Why would I do that? I already have a driver b43 from the new kernel-3.2 loaded and this seems to be the advised driver, not the wl driver. I am just missing the firmware! Just try what i said and I think You will *Like it . Someone FINALLY got around to take the b43-cutter out of Fedora. OK I will try it. (If b43-fwcutter isn't needed any more why still include the package? Though I see it is still a package for Fed15!) And I thought the firmware for more Broadcom chips was going to be included in the 3.2 kernel. AV -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
help needing recovering bootloader after upgrade
The bootloader was not installed properly during a F15-F16 upgrade, so I'm hoping someone on this list can point me in the correct direction to recover. I had a F15 system which also has a Windows partition. The disks (actual logical units on a RAID controller) are like this: first: Windows partition second: linux partition third: Windows NTFS data partition fourth: Linux XFS data partition The linux partition has multiple partitions, with a 100MB /boot partition, a separate /home partition, swap partition, and OS partition. On the F15 installation, grub was the default bootloader, and chained to the Windows bootloader. I upgraded from an F16 DVD, and at the end of the upgrade process anaconda had a message to the effect that the bootloader was not written properly and the system may not boot. I don't remember if the wording was that the bootloader was not written properly, was not upgraded properly, or some slight variant of that. I have booted the F16 DVD in rescue mode, and the system disk is mounted under /mnt/sysimage, everything seems to be OK there, so I think I just need to get the bootloader set up properly again. Would F16 have been trying to install grub2, or would it have left grub legacy since this was an upgrade and not a fresh install? Before I started the upgrade I printed a copy of fstab, so I have the UUID of the /boot partition. I have the grub manual from gnu.org, should I be able to just follow the steps in the generic grub documentation to install grub using grub2-install? The only tricky part that I'm aware of is getting stage 1 on the Windows drive, and stage 1.5 and 2 (if they are still called that in grub2) onto the /boot partition. Will grub2-install take UUID arguments, or will I have to give it the raw device names (e.g. c0d1p1 for controller/lun/partition number)? I see after looking through the grub2 documentation that the name for the stages is now boot.img and core.img. The documentation does not seem clear to me how you get boot.img onto the MBR and core.img onto a different drive. Maybe the correct command line to specify that to grub2-install is all that I am missing at this point. Anyone that can help? thanks, Chris Caudle -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On 01/24/2012 01:03 PM, Alexander Volovics wrote: On 01/24/2012 06:53 PM, Jim wrote: You want ito nstall kmod-wl and it will install all dependencies . Then you want to go into /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and enter blacklist b43-fwcutter w/o quotes Why would I do that? I already have a driver b43 from the new kernel-3.2 loaded and this seems to be the advised driver, not the wl driver. I am just missing the firmware! Just try what i said and I think You will *Like it . Someone FINALLY got around to take the b43-cutter out of Fedora. OK I will try it. (If b43-fwcutter isn't needed any more why still include the package? Though I see it is still a package for Fed15!) And I thought the firmware for more Broadcom chips was going to be included in the 3.2 kernel. AV Believe me I have ask myself the same question at least the last two Fedora releases. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fed 16 + Broadcom wlan 4312 + kernel-3.2.1-3
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:05 AM, Alexander Volovics a.volo...@upcmail.nl wrote: I have a Broadcom wlan 4312 [14e4:4315] in my laptop. After the latest kernel update to kernel-3.2.1-13 I decided to install the necessary firmware heeding the following dmesg output: [ 82.515047] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515054] b43-phy0 ERROR: Firmware file b43-open/ucode15.fw not found [ 82.515060] b43-phy0 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website. The website suggests downloading broadcom-wl-5.100.138.tar.bz2 if using the b43 driver from the 3.2 kernel. I did that but then this happens: b43-fwcutter -w /lib/firmware wl_apsta.o Sorry, the input file is either wrong or not supported by b43-fwcutter. This file has an unknown MD5sum e1b05e268bcdbfef3560c28fc161f30 b43-fwcutter in Fed 16 is version 0.14 and indeed the FW15 file supported by b43-fwcutter version 0.14 has a different md5sum. The wireless.kernel.org site also advices using b43-fwcutter version 0.15 but this version does not seem to be available for fed 16. Can this be the problem? It is the problem. That firmware needs b43-fwcutter-015; older versions won't work with it. I filed a bug [1] asking for b43-fwcutter to be updated. In the meantime, I built an updated version because I'll probably need it for one of my machines when it gets updated later: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=3730189 -T.C. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=784390 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: glxgear and glxinfo confusion
On 01/24/2012 07:12 AM, Tim wrote: On Mon, 2012-01-23 at 11:58 -0800, Joe Zeff wrote: I've always considered them the video equivalent of the audiophule, Was that a mispelling of audiofile, or a joke of audio+fool? ;-) It's a term I've seen a number of times over the years on UseNet to describe the type of fool who really thinks that he can hear the difference expensive cables can make when the quality of the amplifier, the speakers and, most important, the recording itself are far more important. It's an example of something I've seen many times: people who think that throwing money at a problem is always the solution. That is, they're an audiophule not an audiophile. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: help needing recovering bootloader after upgrade
On Tue, 2012-01-24 at 12:07 -0600, Chris Caudle wrote: The bootloader was not installed properly during a F15-F16 upgrade, so I'm hoping someone on this list can point me in the correct direction to recover. I had a F15 system which also has a Windows partition. The disks (actual logical units on a RAID controller) are like this: first: Windows partition second: linux partition third: Windows NTFS data partition fourth: Linux XFS data partition The linux partition has multiple partitions, with a 100MB /boot partition, a separate /home partition, swap partition, and OS partition. On the F15 installation, grub was the default bootloader, and chained to the Windows bootloader. I upgraded from an F16 DVD, and at the end of the upgrade process anaconda had a message to the effect that the bootloader was not written properly and the system may not boot. I don't remember if the wording was that the bootloader was not written properly, was not upgraded properly, or some slight variant of that. I have booted the F16 DVD in rescue mode, and the system disk is mounted under /mnt/sysimage, everything seems to be OK there, so I think I just need to get the bootloader set up properly again. Would F16 have been trying to install grub2, or would it have left grub legacy since this was an upgrade and not a fresh install? Before I started the upgrade I printed a copy of fstab, so I have the UUID of the /boot partition. I have the grub manual from gnu.org, should I be able to just follow the steps in the generic grub documentation to install grub using grub2-install? The only tricky part that I'm aware of is getting stage 1 on the Windows drive, and stage 1.5 and 2 (if they are still called that in grub2) onto the /boot partition. Will grub2-install take UUID arguments, or will I have to give it the raw device names (e.g. c0d1p1 for controller/lun/partition number)? I see after looking through the grub2 documentation that the name for the stages is now boot.img and core.img. The documentation does not seem clear to me how you get boot.img onto the MBR and core.img onto a different drive. Maybe the correct command line to specify that to grub2-install is all that I am missing at this point. Anyone that can help? thanks, Chris Caudle How big is /boot? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
A mystery of Gnome 3.2 and failsafe mode
When I installed F16 it would not run in Gnome 3.2 mode because of some deficiency in the hardware graphics. My graphics card is : 82945G/GZ. Someone else on the list said he had the same card and Gnome 3.2 came up. So we have our first mystery. I still have no idea exactly what graphics cards have this deficiency. Any one to clarify? Anyway in an attempt to clarify things I downloaded the Live F16 and when that was run Gnome 3.2 came up normally. Why is this? The idea was for me to have prior warning if F16 and Gnome 3.2 would run on my laptop. The Live F16 runs but now we know that won't tell me anything. Anybody have an idea how I would be able to guess if my laptop with run F16 properly? I would rather not spend a half a day finding out. On a sort of unrelated issue, after running the Live F16 on my laptop, I found power off did not power off the laptop. It was still on but the on and off button no longer worked. Has anyone else had this problem? It is hard to completely shutoff the power to a laptop that has a working battery. For awhile there I was kind of worried, since I did not want to yank out the battery. -- === Q: How many Marxists does it take to screw in a lightbulb? A: None: The lightbulb contains the seeds of its own revolution. === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: help needing recovering bootloader after upgrade
On 01/25/2012 04:07 AM, Chris Caudle wrote: The bootloader was not installed properly during a F15-F16 upgrade, so I'm hoping someone on this list can point me in the correct direction to recover. I had a F15 system which also has a Windows partition. The disks (actual logical units on a RAID controller) are like this: first: Windows partition second: linux partition third: Windows NTFS data partition fourth: Linux XFS data partition The linux partition has multiple partitions, with a 100MB /boot partition, a separate /home partition, swap partition, and OS partition. On the F15 installation, grub was the default bootloader, and chained to the Windows bootloader. I upgraded from an F16 DVD, and at the end of the upgrade process anaconda had a message to the effect that the bootloader was not written properly and the system may not boot. I don't remember if the wording was that the bootloader was not written properly, was not upgraded properly, or some slight variant of that. I have booted the F16 DVD in rescue mode, and the system disk is mounted under /mnt/sysimage, everything seems to be OK there, so I think I just need to get the bootloader set up properly again. Would F16 have been trying to install grub2, or would it have left grub legacy since this was an upgrade and not a fresh install? Before I started the upgrade I printed a copy of fstab, so I have the UUID of the /boot partition. I have the grub manual from gnu.org, should I be able to just follow the steps in the generic grub documentation to install grub using grub2-install? The only tricky part that I'm aware of is getting stage 1 on the Windows drive, and stage 1.5 and 2 (if they are still called that in grub2) onto the /boot partition. Will grub2-install take UUID arguments, or will I have to give it the raw device names (e.g. c0d1p1 for controller/lun/partition number)? I see after looking through the grub2 documentation that the name for the stages is now boot.img and core.img. The documentation does not seem clear to me how you get boot.img onto the MBR and core.img onto a different drive. Maybe the correct command line to specify that to grub2-install is all that I am missing at this point. Anyone that can help? thanks, Chris Caudle Chris, IMHO you need a /boot partition of at least 500mb to hold grub2 boot files.I had similar problems with a 300mb partition until increasing it to 500mb. david -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A mystery of Gnome 3.2 and failsafe mode
On Tuesday 24 January 2012 15:32:06 Aaron Konstam wrote: When I installed F16 it would not run in Gnome 3.2 mode because of some deficiency in the hardware graphics. My graphics card is : 82945G/GZ. Someone else on the list said he had the same card and Gnome 3.2 came up. So we have our first mystery. I still have no idea exactly what graphics cards have this deficiency. Any one to clarify? Anyway in an attempt to clarify things I downloaded the Live F16 and when that was run Gnome 3.2 came up normally. Why is this? [snip] This smells like a misconfiguration problem. If 3D acceleration works on the Live F16, it should also work with the regular install, on the same hardware. Besides, you have Intel graphics, which has open source 3D drivers, which should Just Work. So I would look at the obvious places first: (1) you did try F16 Live on the exact same hardware? (2) did you do a fresh install or an upgrade to F16? (3) do you have a custom /etc/X11/xorg.conf file (if any)? (4) does Gnome3 start normally for a freshly created user? (5) did you put something funky in the kernel boot parameters, like nomodeset? (6) is your machine fully yum update-ed? (7) what does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say after a failed attempt to start Gnome3? I am not a Gnome user (start it only sparingly for testing and a good laugh now and then), but it does work on my Intel hardware. Granted, 965 rather than 945 chip, but still... If all else fails, back up your data, and reinstall F16 fresh from the Live CD. The configuration which is used during the Live session should be mirrored for the HD install, so you would have a working Gnome3. HTH, :-) Marko -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
Hello $ ps -eZ | grep mysql unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 5859 pts/1 00:00:00 mysqld_safe unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 5985 pts/1 00:00:00 mysqld I have installed these MySQL packages (Fedora 16 x64): mysql-connector-odbc-5.1.8-3.fc16.x86_64 mysql-devel-5.5.17-1.fc16.x86_64 MySQL-python-1.2.3-3.fc16.x86_64 mysql-server-5.5.17-1.fc16.x86_64 qt-mysql-4.8.0-0.23.rc1.fc16.x86_64 php-mysql-5.3.8-3.fc16.x86_64 == mysql-5.5.17-1.fc16.x86_64 mysql-connector-java-5.1.17-1.fc16.1.x86_64 mysql-embedded-5.5.14-3.fc16.x86_64 libdbi-dbd-mysql-0.8.3-8.fc16.x86_64 perl-DBD-MySQL-4.019-3.fc16.x86_64 mysql-libs-5.5.17-1.fc16.x86_64 And these PHP packages: php-common-5.3.8-3.fc16.x86_64 php-ldap-5.3.8-3.fc16.x86_64 php-pdo-5.3.8-3.fc16.x86_64 php-5.3.8-3.fc16.x86_64 php-mysql-5.3.8-3.fc16.x86_64 == php-cli-5.3.8-3.fc16.x86_64 These are the packages that come with the Fedora distribution and/or repos... I have just started MySQL and tried again... # mysqld_safe --user=mysql 120124 19:39:39 mysqld_safe Logging to '/var/log/mysqld.log'. 120124 19:39:39 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql /var/log/mysqld.log : 120123 12:25:25 mysqld_safe mysqld from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid ended 120124 19:39:39 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql 120124 19:39:40 [Note] Plugin 'FEDERATED' is disabled. 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: Using Linux native AIO 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: Completed initialization of buffer pool 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: highest supported file format is Barracuda. 120124 19:39:40 InnoDB: Waiting for the background threads to start 120124 19:39:41 InnoDB: 1.1.8 started; log sequence number 1690783 120124 19:39:42 [Note] Event Scheduler: Loaded 0 events 120124 19:39:42 [Note] /usr/libexec/mysqld: ready for connections. Version: '5.5.17' socket: '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' port: 3306 MySQL Community Server (GPL) and /var/log/httpd/error_log : [Tue Jan 24 19:45:05 2012] [error] [client ::1] PHP Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (13) in /var/www/html/install2.php on line 22, referer: http://localhost/install.php BUT I can connect manually from the console... note that the user and password are right, I added a print line on the PHP code with the host/user/pass and it shows them correct, so it is not due an incorrect login... the line 22 from install2.php: $my_handle = mysql_connect($my_host,$admin_user,$admin_pass); and it works fine on the production server, so it is not the application... Apparently the problem is not on the MySQL side, it should be the PHP or the connector from PHP to MySQL... or I don't know, it simply does not work :( What can I do? I need to test and run the application on my local computer not the server Thanks! On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Daniel J Walsh dwa...@redhat.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/23/2012 01:22 PM, Fedora Linux wrote: # setsebool httpd_can_network_connect_db on I have just tried, but still does not work: Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (13) Any other idea? Connecting manually it works What AVC's are you seeing. Most likely mysql is not running with the correct context. ps -eZ | grep mysql -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
Yes... it appeared a popup with SELinux errors, I opened it and shows:
SELinux is preventing /usr/sbin/httpd from connectto access on the
unix_stream_socket /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock.
* Plugin catchall (100. confidence) suggests
***
If you believe that httpd should be allowed connectto access on the
mysql.sock unix_stream_socket by default.
Then you should report this as a bug.
You can generate a local policy module to allow this access.
Do
allow this access for now by executing:
# grep /usr/sbin/httpd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol
# semodule -i mypol.pp
Additional Information:
Source Contextunconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0
Target Context
unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1
023
Target Objects/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock [
unix_stream_socket ]
Source/usr/sbin/httpd
Source Path /usr/sbin/httpd
Port Unknown
Host hexenmeister
Source RPM Packages httpd-2.2.21-1.fc16
Target RPM Packages
Policy RPMselinux-policy-3.10.0-46.fc16
Selinux Enabled True
Policy Type targeted
Enforcing ModeEnforcing
Host Name hexenmeister
Platform Linux hexenmeister 3.1.0-7.fc16.x86_64 #1 SMP
Tue
Nov 1 21:10:48 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64
Alert Count 13
First SeenMon 26 Dec 2011 09:13:51 AM CST
Last Seen Tue 24 Jan 2012 07:45:05 PM CST
Local ID 13679772-cd1a-4414-8fe0-17db5c12c0f9
Raw Audit Messages
type=AVC msg=audit(1327455905.131:121): avc: denied { connectto } for
pid=6215 comm=/usr/sbin/httpd path=/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
scontext=unconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0
tcontext=unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
tclass=unix_stream_socket
type=SYSCALL msg=audit(1327455905.131:121): arch=x86_64 syscall=connect
success=no exit=EACCES a0=10 a1=7fffbec545a0 a2=6e a3=0 items=0 ppid=6211
pid=6215 auid=1000 uid=48 gid=48 euid=48 suid=48 fsuid=48 egid=48 sgid=48
fsgid=48 tty=(none) ses=2 comm=/usr/sbin/httpd exe=/usr/sbin/httpd
subj=unconfined_u:system_r:httpd_t:s0 key=(null)
Hash: /usr/sbin/httpd,httpd_t,unconfined_t,unix_stream_socket,connectto
audit2allow
#= httpd_t ==
allow httpd_t unconfined_t:unix_stream_socket connectto;
audit2allow -R
#= httpd_t ==
allow httpd_t unconfined_t:unix_stream_socket connectto;
So I guess it has blocked the access, I tried a command to allow access
that posted another user on my thread, but didn't work... How can I unlock
it? I've never used SELinux...
Thanks for your help!
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:04 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:
are you running selinux?
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Fedora Linux
fedorali...@toursbymexico.com wrote:
Hello
By command line I am able to connect normally, so the problem is not
MySQL... I use mysql -u root -h localhost -p and it works... Note that
the application also uses root since it must create the database and a user
for the application...
I have tried to restart MySQL and the whole system, but it still does not
connect from PHP
The error is:
[error] [client ::1] PHP Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to
local MySQL server through socket '/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (13) in
/var/www/html/install2.php on line 22, referer:
http://localhost/install.php
So I guess the problem is in the PHP, Apache or on the interface between
MySQL and Apache/PHP...
Any other suggestion?
Regards
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:04 PM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:
hi...
ok.. basic debug stuff.. skip if you've already done..
-using the user/passwd.. can you access mysql from the cmdline..
[i assume you can]
-what are the permissions on the mysql db/tbls? have they changed?
--did you stop/restart mysql?
-what do the mysql logs say?
let us know..
On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Mike Wright
mike.wri...@mailinator.com wrote:
On 01/22/2012 07:02 AM, Fedora Linux wrote:
Hello
I have a web application but it is not working on my Fedora 16 with
PHP,
for some reason it is unable to connect to the MySQL server, it returns
the error:
[Sun Jan 22 08:40:24 2012] [error] [client ::1] PHP Warning:
mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket
'/var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock' (13) in /var/www/html/install2.php on line
22, referer: http://localhost/install.php
Notice that the user/password is correct, the PHP is installed and
working and MySQL is up and running...
Even the socket is there
# ls -l /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
srwxrwxrwx. 1 mysql mysql 0 Jan 22 08:37 /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock
What can be the problem? The application is okay, I am using it in a
production server and it is running in
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
On 01/24/2012 06:03 PM, Fedora Linux wrote: So I guess it has blocked the access, I tried a command to allow access that posted another user on my thread, but didn't work... How can I unlock it? I've never used SELinux... The SELinux error message you quoted tells you exactly how to correct the issue. Is there any reason you haven't tried following its instructions? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Where's the alternative status menu
Is it just me, or has the alternative status menu Gnome extension has been broken for at least several months now. The shutdown option is nowhere to be found on any machine I have the Gnome desktop running and the extension installed. pgphOM1SlDPl2.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Where's the alternative status menu
The extensions are not enabled by default since GNOME 3.2. Don't forget to relaunch GNOME Shell once the extension is installed, then enable it using gnome-tweak-tool. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
umm jeff... i think he was looking for reassurance (not condescension) as to the actions he has to take, or exactly what he has to type to resolve the issue. he simply doesn't want to f up his box... --- for the mysql issue.. it appears that selinux is blocking the app/port... go ahead and type the cmds that have the # in front of them... let us know how it goes.. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 01/24/2012 06:03 PM, Fedora Linux wrote: So I guess it has blocked the access, I tried a command to allow access that posted another user on my thread, but didn't work... How can I unlock it? I've never used SELinux... The SELinux error message you quoted tells you exactly how to correct the issue. Is there any reason you haven't tried following its instructions? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
On 01/24/2012 07:25 PM, bruce wrote: umm jeff... First off, my name is not, never has been and never will be Jeff. Please don't do that again. i think he was looking for reassurance (not condescension) as to the actions he has to take, or exactly what he has to type to resolve the issue. he simply doesn't want to f up his box... And why, pray tell, would he have thought that following the instructions SELinux gave him would be more likely to fsck his box up than a suggestion from J. Random User from some mailing list? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
ok jeff.. no.. now that i've stopped laughing... my bad,, multiple email threads.. On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:34 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 01/24/2012 07:25 PM, bruce wrote: umm jeff... First off, my name is not, never has been and never will be Jeff. Please don't do that again. i think he was looking for reassurance (not condescension) as to the actions he has to take, or exactly what he has to type to resolve the issue. he simply doesn't want to f up his box... And why, pray tell, would he have thought that following the instructions SELinux gave him would be more likely to fsck his box up than a suggestion from J. Random User from some mailing list? guess you're right jeff -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
On 01/24/2012 08:22 PM, bruce wrote: ok jeff.. Well, one thing's sure: you don't want any help from me and you're not going to get it. *Plonk!* -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
On 25/01/12 02:03, Fedora Linux wrote: grep /usr/sbin/httpd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol Comments are mine. Do the following in a terminal: grep /usr/sbin/httpd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol ## it's better to change mypol to something more related like myhttpd01, in case you get more alerts down the road. semodule -i mypol.pp # if you use the myhttpd01 naming this would be, # semodule -i myhttpd01.pp I would also report the bug, where it says so. # you will required an account on bugzilla.redhat.com -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
For cases where I can't (be bothered to take the time to) find the proper context and end up using this method, I make a habit of moving/flushing audit.log then recreating the specific issue. This way, nothing unexpected slips by. I probably should be paying more attention to what's in there, but there's nobody paying me... On Jan 24, 2012 10:39 PM, Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com wrote: On 25/01/12 02:03, Fedora Linux wrote: grep /usr/sbin/httpd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol Comments are mine. Do the following in a terminal: grep /usr/sbin/httpd /var/log/audit/audit.log | audit2allow -M mypol ## it's better to change mypol to something more related like myhttpd01, in case you get more alerts down the road. semodule -i mypol.pp # if you use the myhttpd01 naming this would be, # semodule -i myhttpd01.pp I would also report the bug, where it says so. # you will required an account on bugzilla.redhat.com -- Regards, Frank Murphy UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.**org/mailman/listinfo/usershttps://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/**Mailing_list_guidelineshttp://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MySQL is not working on PHP with Fedora 16
On 25/01/12 06:36, Pete Travis wrote: For cases where I can't (be bothered to take the time to) find the proper context and end up using this method, I make a habit of moving/flushing audit.log then recreating the specific issue. This way, nothing unexpected slips by. I probably should be paying more attention to what's in there, but there's nobody paying me... I do that occasionally monthly maybe. Since TC created the fixfiles onboot (fixfiles.service) https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2012-January/412885.html # my bad paths, fixfiles is in /sbin/fixfiles) I know there is a properly labelled box booting up. anything else needs looking at. -- Regards, Frank Murphy, friend of fedoraproject UTF_8 Encoded -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
