Re: Ugh! Activate SSHD on Headless Machine?
On 5.5.2012 23:15, Jorge Fábregas wrote: On 05/05/2012 03:03 PM, Fedora User wrote: I have a perfectly good laptop with a fried display card that I am trying to turn into a media server. It boots and the network is activated but I must have turned off sshd like a complete schmuck. Well, if it boots and the network is activated (and assuming your know its ip address)...how difficult can it be to type: root ENTER yourpassword ENTER chkconfig sshd on ENTER service sshd start ENTER ..and then try to connect to it? Notice that I'm using the old'style commands (chkconfig and service) instead of all the new systemd commands which I still haven't used. Nonetheless they still should work. Regards, Jorge And for reference, the systemd equivalents are: systemctl enable sshd.service systemctl start sshd.service -- Veeti Paananen - systemd fan -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
problem with mounting iphone on F15
Dear list When I plug my iphone to the usb, I get this message and then the iphone is not mounted. dmes prints this messages. Could you help please. the iphone is under ios 5.x [19307.554196] usb 2-2: new high-speed USB device number 8 using ehci_hcd [19307.676873] usb 2-2: New USB device found, idVendor=05ac, idProduct=1294 [19307.676883] usb 2-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3 [19307.676891] usb 2-2: Product: iPhone [19307.676896] usb 2-2: Manufacturer: Apple Inc. [19307.676901] usb 2-2: SerialNumber: [19307.880904] ipheth 2-2:4.2: Apple iPhone USB Ethernet device attached [19307.968723] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready -- PhD candidate in Computer Science Address 3 avenue lamine, cité ezzahra, Sousse 4000 Tunisia tel: +216 97 246 706 (+33640302046 jusqu'au 15/6) fax: +216 71 391 166 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
Hi All, Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say I have nothing but problems with using it. For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) does not cut it for me... Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though I select the app from Applications drop down menu in some other workspace. I am unable to change the position of the Applications toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click on desktop has no effect. I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), on this same HW. In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
Am 06.05.2012 23:50, schrieb JD: In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. why are you not simply drop this GNOME3 crap and switch to KDE? GNOME2 is dead and will not come back not on any distribution KDE never had the problem NEEDING 3D acelerated hardware as GNOME3 and this time KDE4 is really good compared to 4.0 - the problem is the GNOME dves have not learned from the KDE4.0 disaster and were never really interested in their userbase they do what they want and this will never change signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
Reindl Harald writes: Am 06.05.2012 23:50, schrieb JD: In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. why are you not simply drop this GNOME3 crap and switch to KDE? GNOME2 is dead and will not come back not on any distribution KDE never had the problem NEEDING 3D acelerated hardware as GNOME3 and this time KDE4 is really good compared to 4.0 - the problem is the GNOME dves have not learned from the KDE4.0 disaster and were never really interested in their userbase they do what they want and this will never change I agree, except that I would also suggest XFCE as another worthwhile alternative. pgp0LokXZPFpk.pgp Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 05/06/2012 02:50 PM, JD wrote: In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. There's nothing to say that you have to use Gnome if you use Fedora. Try installing and using a different DE and see if it works better for you. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 03:50:31PM -0600, JD wrote: Hi All, Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say I have nothing but problems with using it. For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) does not cut it for me... Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though I select the app from Applications drop down menu in some other workspace. I am unable to change the position of the Applications toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click on desktop has no effect. I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), on this same HW. In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi JD, GNOME3 is a learning curve for sure, and I also know it's not an environment that will work for everyone. With time, I have adapted nicely, and I have actually come to prefer the GNOME3 way of doing things for the most part. Enough about me though. Have you tried XFCE? I have a computer of similar specs as yours that is happily running the F17-beta release with the XFCE desktop. I made some modifications to the default layout - set it up w/ 2 24px panels (top and bottom), placed my taskbar or Window List on the bottom panel, along w/ the workspace switcher, and it looks and feels almost exactly like GNOME2 now. The folks that work on the XFCE spin are top notch folks too. I think you might be pleased if you give it a spin. Jayson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 06/05/12 22:50, JD wrote: Hi All, Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say I have nothing but problems with using it. For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) does not cut it for me... Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though I select the app from Applications drop down menu in some other workspace. I am unable to change the position of the Applications toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click on desktop has no effect. I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), on this same HW. In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) Have you tried running in Fallback mode? I find it perfectly usable in that mode. I ran preupgrade today from 15 - 16 apart from a twenty minute stall at selinux-targeted-policy during the upgrade it went without a hitch 16 is far snappier than 15 boots a lot quicker. The most surprising thing of all is that the upgrade was carried out on an old IBM ThinkPad T42 with 1GB of RAM in fallback it's flying along I see none of the problems you're describing. I hope you get it sorted. I did run the KDE Live CD before upgrading but decided to stick with Gnome albeit without the visual bells whistles. Cheers, Phil... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
Linux Mint seems to be the only distro that has had a sane reaction to GNOME 3. http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php Modifications to GNOME 3 and a fork of GNOME 2. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F17: /boot/grub2' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
Dear Folks,
I've installed F17 on this machine with yum,
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum] and it
seems okay so far, except for this:
$ sudo grub2-install /dev/sda
/usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib: line 53: 29562 Segmentation fault (core dumped)
${grub_probe} -t fs $path /dev/null 21
Path `/boot/grub2' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible.
Aborting.
I'm afraid to reboot.
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Re: F17: /boot/grub2' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
On 05/06/2012 07:59 PM, Nick Urbanik wrote:
Dear Folks,
I've installed F17 on this machine with yum,
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum] and it
seems okay so far, except for this:
$ sudo grub2-install /dev/sda
/usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib: line 53: 29562 Segmentation
fault (core dumped) ${grub_probe} -t fs $path /dev/null 21
Path `/boot/grub2' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is
impossible. Aborting.
I'm afraid to reboot.
Possible a permissions issue ?
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Re: F17: /boot/grub2' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
On 05/07/2012 08:59 AM, Nick Urbanik wrote:
Dear Folks,
I've installed F17 on this machine with yum,
[https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Upgrading_Fedora_using_yum] and it
seems okay so far, except for this:
$ sudo grub2-install /dev/sda
/usr/share/grub/grub-mkconfig_lib: line 53: 29562 Segmentation fault
(core
dumped) ${grub_probe} -t fs $path /dev/null 21
Path `/boot/grub2' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is
impossible.
Aborting.
I'm afraid to reboot.
There have been issues with grub2 on F17. Best to ask on
t...@lists.fedoraproject.org where more extensive testing of F17 is happening.
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Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 4:11 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: Linux Mint seems to be the only distro that has had a sane reaction to GNOME 3. http://www.linuxmint.com/rel_lisa_whatsnew.php Modifications to GNOME 3 and a fork of GNOME 2. Thank you Tom. I will check it out. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 3:58 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 06/05/12 22:50, JD wrote: Hi All, Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say I have nothing but problems with using it. For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) does not cut it for me... Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though I select the app from Applications drop down menu in some other workspace. I am unable to change the position of the Applications toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click on desktop has no effect. I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), on this same HW. In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) Have you tried running in Fallback mode? I find it perfectly usable in that mode. I ran preupgrade today from 15 - 16 apart from a twenty minute stall at selinux-targeted-policy during the upgrade it went without a hitch 16 is far snappier than 15 boots a lot quicker. The most surprising thing of all is that the upgrade was carried out on an old IBM ThinkPad T42 with 1GB of RAM in fallback it's flying along I see none of the problems you're describing. I hope you get it sorted. I did run the KDE Live CD before upgrading but decided to stick with Gnome albeit without the visual bells whistles. Cheers, Phil... I had done a fresh install of F16, as the upgrade left my machine in an unusable state. I do not recall seeing anything about fallback mode. As an update to my post, I found that xfce is much more like Gnome2, albeit it is still a wee bit too rigid as far as letting the user decide where the task bar and the apps launch bar should be located. But all in all, xfce has come to the rescue :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 3:54 PM, Jayson Rowe wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 03:50:31PM -0600, JD wrote: Hi All, Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say I have nothing but problems with using it. For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) does not cut it for me... Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though I select the app from Applications drop down menu in some other workspace. I am unable to change the position of the Applications toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click on desktop has no effect. I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), on this same HW. In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi JD, GNOME3 is a learning curve for sure, and I also know it's not an environment that will work for everyone. With time, I have adapted nicely, and I have actually come to prefer the GNOME3 way of doing things for the most part. Enough about me though. Have you tried XFCE? I have a computer of similar specs as yours that is happily running the F17-beta release with the XFCE desktop. I made some modifications to the default layout - set it up w/ 2 24px panels (top and bottom), placed my taskbar or Window List on the bottom panel, along w/ the workspace switcher, and it looks and feels almost exactly like GNOME2 now. The folks that work on the XFCE spin are top notch folks too. I think you might be pleased if you give it a spin. Jayson Right! I had replied to Phil Dobbin that XFCE was my rescuer :) Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 3:35 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 05/06/2012 02:50 PM, JD wrote: In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. There's nothing to say that you have to use Gnome if you use Fedora. Try installing and using a different DE and see if it works better for you. See my reply to Phil Dobbin. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 3:27 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Reindl Harald writes: Am 06.05.2012 23:50, schrieb JD: In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. why are you not simply drop this GNOME3 crap and switch to KDE? GNOME2 is dead and will not come back not on any distribution KDE never had the problem NEEDING 3D acelerated hardware as GNOME3 and this time KDE4 is really good compared to 4.0 - the problem is the GNOME dves have not learned from the KDE4.0 disaster and were never really interested in their userbase they do what they want and this will never change I agree, except that I would also suggest XFCE as another worthwhile alternative. Yes. See my reply to Phil Dobbin. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 3:17 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 06.05.2012 23:50, schrieb JD: In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. why are you not simply drop this GNOME3 crap and switch to KDE? GNOME2 is dead and will not come back not on any distribution KDE never had the problem NEEDING 3D acelerated hardware as GNOME3 and this time KDE4 is really good compared to 4.0 - the problem is the GNOME dves have not learned from the KDE4.0 disaster and were never really interested in their userbase they do what they want and this will never change Well, I had tried KDE - but I was so used and comfortable with Gnome2, I really wanted my favorite DE back. As I had already tried and found XFCE gives me what I want, I replied to Phil Dobbin that I had already switched to XFCE. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:36:38PM -0700, J D wrote: On 5/6/2012 3:58 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 06/05/12 22:50, JD wrote: Hi All, Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say I have nothing but problems with using it. For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) does not cut it for me... Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though I select the app from Applications drop down menu in some other workspace. I am unable to change the position of the Applications toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click on desktop has no effect. I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), on this same HW. In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) Have you tried running in Fallback mode? I find it perfectly usable in that mode. I ran preupgrade today from 15 - 16 apart from a twenty minute stall at selinux-targeted-policy during the upgrade it went without a hitch 16 is far snappier than 15 boots a lot quicker. The most surprising thing of all is that the upgrade was carried out on an old IBM ThinkPad T42 with 1GB of RAM in fallback it's flying along I see none of the problems you're describing. I hope you get it sorted. I did run the KDE Live CD before upgrading but decided to stick with Gnome albeit without the visual bells whistles. Cheers, Phil... I had done a fresh install of F16, as the upgrade left my machine in an unusable state. I do not recall seeing anything about fallback mode. As an update to my post, I found that xfce is much more like Gnome2, albeit it is still a wee bit too rigid as far as letting the user decide where the task bar and the apps launch bar should be located. But all in all, xfce has come to the rescue :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi JD, I'm not sure what you mean by Rigid. On the machine I have XFCE running on, it's setup is nearly identical to GNOME2 (after some tweaks). I set both the top and bottom panels to 24px, and have them both expanded the full width of the screen. The top panel has the Applications Menu, several application launchers, my network and mixer applets, my clock (I use orage), and a log-out button. The bottom panel has my taskbar, and to the right my workspace switcher. Just tinker around with it, and I'm sure you'll get a setup that is just right for you, and pretty close to whatever config you were used to in GNOME2. Good luck! Jayson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 8:04 PM, Jayson Rowe wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:36:38PM -0700, J D wrote: On 5/6/2012 3:58 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 06/05/12 22:50, JD wrote: Hi All, Without dissing or criticizing gnome3, I must say I have nothing but problems with using it. For example, selecting the Gnome, or the Classic Gnome desktop manager, I can no longer see the desktop in other workspaces that I created, except workspace 1. Viewing the desktop in a window (as compared on the workspace) does not cut it for me... Starting apps always start in workspace 1, even though I select the app from Applications drop down menu in some other workspace. I am unable to change the position of the Applications toolbar to the left vertical position, and the currently running apps toolbar to the right vertical position. I am unable to create new gnome launch icons on the desktop (or at least, I have not figured out how). Right click on desktop has no effect. I am unable to add new icons of apps to the menu bar for quick launch. And finally, on my HW (AMD Athlon64 3200+)) platform, the response time with F16 is so horribly slow, that F14 practically appeared to respond like lightning - albeit I have had much faster response time on older Fedora releases (such as F7 and F8), on this same HW. In short, I think I will have to dump F16, and switch back to F14 or switch to a completely different distro that has not switched to gnome3. Thanx for all the good and the bad times :) Have you tried running in Fallback mode? I find it perfectly usable in that mode. I ran preupgrade today from 15 - 16 apart from a twenty minute stall at selinux-targeted-policy during the upgrade it went without a hitch 16 is far snappier than 15 boots a lot quicker. The most surprising thing of all is that the upgrade was carried out on an old IBM ThinkPad T42 with 1GB of RAM in fallback it's flying along I see none of the problems you're describing. I hope you get it sorted. I did run the KDE Live CD before upgrading but decided to stick with Gnome albeit without the visual bells whistles. Cheers, Phil... I had done a fresh install of F16, as the upgrade left my machine in an unusable state. I do not recall seeing anything about fallback mode. As an update to my post, I found that xfce is much more like Gnome2, albeit it is still a wee bit too rigid as far as letting the user decide where the task bar and the apps launch bar should be located. But all in all, xfce has come to the rescue :) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi JD, I'm not sure what you mean by Rigid. On the machine I have XFCE running on, it's setup is nearly identical to GNOME2 (after some tweaks). I set both the top and bottom panels to 24px, and have them both expanded the full width of the screen. The top panel has the Applications Menu, several application launchers, my network and mixer applets, my clock (I use orage), and a log-out button. The bottom panel has my taskbar, and to the right my workspace switcher. Just tinker around with it, and I'm sure you'll get a setup that is just right for you, and pretty close to whatever config you were used to in GNOME2. Good luck! Jayson By rigid I mean that the task bar cannot be moved to right vertical side, and app launch bar cannot be moved to left vertical side. That's all. Otherwise, you are right that it is almost identical to Gnome2. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:25:25PM -0700, J D wrote: By rigid I mean that the task bar cannot be moved to right vertical side, and app launch bar cannot be moved to left vertical side. That's all. Otherwise, you are right that it is almost identical to Gnome2. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi again JD, Assuming I understand what you mean by taskbar, on my machine, I just right-clicked my bottom panel (which contains my taskbar), and chose Panel Preferences from the Panel sub-menu. In that window, making sure Panel 2 was selected in the drop-down, I chose Orientation: Vertical, and unchecked lock panel. It then went vertical on the left side of my screen, and I was able to grab it by its top handle and move it to the right, so I had a right-side, vertical taskbar. Hope this helps (and is what you are looking for). Jayson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome3 - nothing but problems (for me)
On 5/6/2012 8:32 PM, Jayson Rowe wrote: On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 08:25:25PM -0700, J D wrote: By rigid I mean that the task bar cannot be moved to right vertical side, and app launch bar cannot be moved to left vertical side. That's all. Otherwise, you are right that it is almost identical to Gnome2. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org Hi again JD, Assuming I understand what you mean by taskbar, on my machine, I just right-clicked my bottom panel (which contains my taskbar), and chose Panel Preferences from the Panel sub-menu. In that window, making sure Panel 2 was selected in the drop-down, I chose Orientation: Vertical, and unchecked lock panel. It then went vertical on the left side of my screen, and I was able to grab it by its top handle and move it to the right, so I had a right-side, vertical taskbar. Hope this helps (and is what you are looking for). Jayson Thanks for the tip. I will try it. I just did not know that you can drag it by it's tip. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
usernetctl bug??
On F16, is anyone else getting this error? # ifup wlan0 Cannot find device up iwconfig: unknown command off # usernetctl wlan0 up Cannot find device up iwconfig: unknown command off -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
