Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse
On 07/22/2012 01:01 AM, John Aldrich wrote: On Sun July 22 2012 12:18:04 AM Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: I agree. That's why I switched from straight Ubuntu to KUbuntu on my laptop. On my desktop, I use Fedora, of course. :D I've gone the other route, and installed Ubuntu on my desktop and have Fedora installed on my laptop! And so far it's been running like a champ! Well, different strokes for different folks. :D I just thought Kubuntu might be a bit "lighter" and work better on a laptop...I'm more used to the tools that come with Fedora so I always have to stop and think when I want to do something in *ubuntu. :D I agree that it's lighter, I want to actually get (yet ANOTHER!) small desktop and dedicate it to trying out the alternate versions of some of the more well-known versions of Linux.only because I'm not well versed enough to handle the "virtual machine" thingie(and by my use fo the word "thingie" I show just how LITTLE I know!...LoL!) EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse
On Sun July 22 2012 12:18:04 AM Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: > > > > I agree. That's why I switched from straight Ubuntu to KUbuntu on my > > laptop. On my desktop, I use Fedora, of course. :D > > I've gone the other route, and installed Ubuntu on my desktop and have > Fedora installed on my laptop! And so far it's been running like a champ! > > Well, different strokes for different folks. :D I just thought Kubuntu might be a bit "lighter" and work better on a laptop...I'm more used to the tools that come with Fedora so I always have to stop and think when I want to do something in *ubuntu. :D -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse
On 07/20/2012 01:48 PM, John Aldrich wrote: Quoting Tom Horsley : Jesus! I could see producing an ubuntu package to utterly eradicate Unity from your ubuntu box, but deliberately help to advance and perpetuate Unity? These people are the spawn of Satan! I agree. That's why I switched from straight Ubuntu to KUbuntu on my laptop. On my desktop, I use Fedora, of course. :D I've gone the other route, and installed Ubuntu on my desktop and have Fedora installed on my laptop! And so far it's been running like a champ! EGO II -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Very cool, thanks. You shouldn't have let me see that prompt, now I'm > just itching to get my hands on one! It looks like there is a nice > competitor too: > http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/2358228/gooseberry-launches-android-based-raspberry-pi-rival There's a nice embedded "pluggable" platform that run Linux and OpenJDK too. http://www.buglabs.net/products /// BUG 2.0 Redesigned and rebuilt from the ground up The slimmer and sleeker BUG 2.0 has a simpler, more intuitive interface and a beautiful color scheme to match. Under the hood, you'll experience improved computing performance, extended battery life, and 720p HD video thanks to a new BUGvideo module and dedicated 24-bit parallel video slot. Additionally, you'll benefit from the widely-used, widely-supported Angstrom Linux OS and OpenJDK JVM that come standard. /// Not sure about the price... FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome 3 extensions install fails silently
On Sat, 2012-07-21 at 20:33 +0200, Olav Vitters wrote: > On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:03:52PM +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > > On 2012-07-20 21:51, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > > >Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > > >>Any clues on how to debug this further? > > > > > >Press ALT+F2 and type "lg" into the run prompt. Look at the > > >"Errors" tab > > >for more clues. > > > > lg, I do not have such a command! > > Please follow the instructions exactly. This is something specific to > ALT+F2 within GNOME shell. It won't show up in /usr/bin. > > -- > Regards, > Olav Well you are correct. The lg command works and produces an interface I have never seen before. But where are the options in the Window explained. For example what does the Evaluator do and how can it be used. Or any of the rest of the Options? -- === If all else fails, immortality can always be assured by spectacular error. -- John Kenneth Galbraith === Aaron Konstam telephone: (210) 656-0355 e-mail: akons...@sbcglobal.net -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > On 21 July 2012 10:51, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Even disregarding recompiling (and rewriting in a cross-platform way) >> C++ code, is there even a JVM or Mono interpreter for ARM? > > Unless Debian is lying to me: > > pi@raspberrypi ~ $ apt-cache search openjdk > default-jdk - Standard Java or Java compatible Development Kit > default-jre - Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime > default-jre-headless - Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime (headless) > icedtea-6-jre-cacao - Alternative JVM for OpenJDK, using Cacao > icedtea-6-plugin - web browser plugin based on OpenJDK and IcedTea to > execute Java applets > icedtea-7-plugin - web browser plugin based on OpenJDK and IcedTea to > execute Java applets > jtreg - Regression Test Harness for the OpenJDK platform > openjdk-6-dbg - Java runtime based on OpenJDK (debugging symbols) > openjdk-6-demo - Java runtime based on OpenJDK (demos and examples) > openjdk-6-doc - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) documentation > openjdk-6-jdk - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) > openjdk-6-jre - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot Zero > openjdk-6-jre-headless - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot Zero (headless) > openjdk-6-jre-lib - OpenJDK Java runtime (architecture independent libraries) > openjdk-6-source - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) source files > openjdk-7-doc - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) documentation > openjdk-7-jre-lib - OpenJDK Java runtime (architecture independent libraries) > openjdk-7-source - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) source files > uwsgi-app-integration-plugins - plugins for integration of uWSGI and > application > uwsgi-plugin-jvm-openjdk-6 - Java plugin for uWSGI (OpenJDK 6) > uwsgi-plugin-jwsgi-openjdk-6 - JWSGI plugin for uWSGI (OpenJDK 6) > > pi@raspberrypi ~ $ arch > armv6l Very cool, thanks. You shouldn't have let me see that prompt, now I'm just itching to get my hands on one! It looks like there is a nice competitor too: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/07/20/2358228/gooseberry-launches-android-based-raspberry-pi-rival -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: possible gcc bug?
On 07/13/2012 12:26 PM, Skunk Worx wrote: Hi, I have an EPEL 6, 64 bit system (SL6) and an fc17 64 bit system. My shared library uses boost, code synthesis xsd cxx-tree, and xerces-c. There may be a bug in gcc that prevents this shared library from being dlclose()'ed properly : http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2011-05/msg00403.html fc17: host: Loading libchild.so... child: Constructor host: so = 0xc0a030 host: Unloading libchild.so... host: Unloaded. host: (nil) child: Destructor The following sub-thread implies that this started affecting some distributions around gcc version 4.6.0 : http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-help/2011-05/msg00432.html However my EPEL 6 64 is gcc / Red Hat 4.4.6-3 and exhibits the same behavior. Do you think this is a "won't fix" or "not a bug"? Regards, John The only response from GNU is that the following 2008 POSIX description of dlclose() is interpreted as "dlclose() is advisory in nature". http://pubs.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/9699919799/functions/dlclose.html They interpret the text as having no requirement for dlclose() to result in the destructors being called on a .so file. In my experience this contradicts everything I've ever seen with the dlopen() / dlclose() of an .so file, but that's that. I'll just have to work around the bloat with a application level .so wrapper or something. --- John -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
apper problem in f17
Hi all, I wonder if anybody else is having the problem I am experiencing for the last few weeks. I use Fedora 17 with KDE, and there is an apper service that monitors available updates regularly. For the last few weeks, apper downloads and installs the updates but stalls at the end of this process with a message reading "Waiting for other tasks" and the progress bar oscillating back and forth. I have to reboot the system to make apper function properly again. Of note, reboot/re-login icons appear appropriately in the system bar at this stage. Any pointers will be appreciated to fix this annoyance. Thanks, Hakan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F17 takes so long to reboot/poweroff
Hello, On my system, the boot phase takes only approximately 28 seconds but both the reboot and shutdown phase take approximately 1 minute and 10 seconds. This did not happen with F16. Could someone help me to solve this issue? Here below are my systemd services: UNIT LOAD ACTIVE SUB JOB DESCRIPTION abrt-ccpp.service loaded active exited Install ABRT coredump hook abrt-oops.service loaded active running ABRT kernel log watcher abrt-vmcore.serviceloaded active exited Harvest vmcores for ABRT abrtd.service loaded active running ABRT Automated Bug Reporting Tool accounts-daemon.serviceloaded active running Accounts Service acpid.service loaded active running ACPI Event Daemon auditd.service loaded active running Security Auditing Service colord-sane.serviceloaded active running Daemon for monitoring attached scanners and registering them with colord colord.service loaded active running Manage, Install and Generate Color Profiles console-kit-daemon.service loaded active running Console Manager console-...m-start.service loaded active exited Console System Startup Logging crond.service loaded active running Command Scheduler cups.service loaded active running CUPS Printing Service dbus.service loaded active running D-Bus System Message Bus fail2ban.service loaded active running SYSV: Fail2ban daemon fedora-loadmodules.service loaded active exited Load legacy module configuration fedora-readonly.serviceloaded active exited Configure read-only root support fedora-s...it-late.service loaded active exited Initialize storage subsystems (RAID, LVM, etc.) fedora-s...ge-init.service loaded active exited Initialize storage subsystems (RAID, LVM, etc.) fedora-w...storage.service loaded active exited Wait for storage scan ip6tables.service loaded active exited IPv6 firewall with ip6tables iptables.service loaded active exited IPv4 firewall with iptables mcelog.service loaded active running Machine Check Exception Logging Daemon NetworkManager.service loaded active running Network Manager prefdm.service loaded active running Display Manager rsyslog.serviceloaded active running System Logging Service rtkit-daemon.service loaded active running RealtimeKit Scheduling Policy Service sendmail.service loaded active running Sendmail Mail Transport Agent sm-client.service loaded active running Sendmail Mail Transport Client smartd.service loaded active running Self Monitoring and Reporting Technology (SMART) Daemon sshd.service loaded active running OpenSSH server daemon system-s...eyboard.service loaded active running System Setup Keyboard systemd-binfmt.service loaded active exited Set Up Additional Binary Formats systemd-journald.service loaded active running Journal Service systemd-logind.service loaded active running Login Service systemd-...collect.service loaded active exited Collect Read-Ahead Data systemd-...-replay.service loaded active exited Replay Read-Ahead Data systemd-remount-fs.service loaded active exited Remount Root and Kernel File Systems systemd-sysctl.service loaded active exited Apply Kernel Variables systemd-...s-setup.service loaded active exited Recreate Volatile Files and Directories systemd-...essions.service loaded active exited Permit User Sessions systemd-...e-setup.service loaded active exited Setup Virtual Console tcsd.service loaded failed failed LSB: Init script for TCSD udev-settle.serviceloaded active exited udev Wait for Complete Device Initialization udev-trigger.service loaded active exited udev Coldplug all Devices udev.service loaded active running udev Kernel Device Manager udisks2.serviceloaded active running Storage Daemon upower.service loaded active running Daemon for power management Thank you very much. Best, -- Marco -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: gnome 3 extensions install fails silently
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:03:52PM +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: > On 2012-07-20 21:51, Michael Cronenworth wrote: > >Bryn M. Reeves wrote: > >>Any clues on how to debug this further? > > > >Press ALT+F2 and type "lg" into the run prompt. Look at the > >"Errors" tab > >for more clues. > > lg, I do not have such a command! Please follow the instructions exactly. This is something specific to ALT+F2 within GNOME shell. It won't show up in /usr/bin. -- Regards, Olav -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.
On Sat, 21 Jul 2012 02:42:50 -0400 DJ Delorie wrote: > Kevin Fenzi writes: > >> > You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your > >> > message has been automatically rejected. If you think that your > >> > messages are being rejected in error, contact the mailing list > >> > owner at advisory-board-ow...@lists.fedoraproject.org. > >> > >> Please do not give instructions to the general population, that the > >> general population cannot follow. I am thus posting to the users@ > >> list, where this original request was sent. > > > > You must first subscribe to the indicated list before you can post > > to it. This is how most lists work these days (pesky spammers). > > *My* mailing lists *tell* you that you have to subscribe to post. > This is how most lists work these days. The message I actually got > did not say "please subscribe to post" it said "you are not allowed > to post". It seems that list was not configured to send such a note, it was set to the default reject message. I have corrected it. If you run into any problems with lists here, do mail the list owners, and likely they can correct things. kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse
WOW!.this is awesome! I'm going to try this out right away! Thanx for the info! Sent from my HTC EVO Design™ 4G from Boost Mobile - Reply message - From: "Matthew J. Roth" To: "Community support for Fedora users" Subject: Ubuntu's Unity desktop repo for fedora by opensuse Date: Fri, Jul 20, 2012 7:58 am Eddie G.O'Connor Jr-I wrote: > > I only WISH I knew how to build my own version of Linux! I'd > (of course!) test the heck out of it until I knew that every piece of > hardware or software worked with it, or else I'd build my own > "alternative" Here you go: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ Linux From Scratch (LFS) is a project that provides you with step-by-step instructions for building your own custom Linux system, entirely from source code. Regards, Matthew Roth InterMedia Marketing Solutions Software Engineer and Systems Developer -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: purpose of "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" & "/usr/lib/modprobe.d" ?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 16:15:51 +0200, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: are quite equivalent? When yes - we had there for long time "/etc/modprobe.conf" and "/etc/modprobe.d/", thus why are there another two directories? The /usr/lib directories are for package installation. The /etc directories are for the admin. If the same named file is in both the /usr/lib and /etc directories only the /etc version is used. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: purpose of "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" & "/usr/lib/modprobe.d" ?
Ed Greshko wrote: > On 07/21/2012 09:26 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: >> Sorry, "modules-load.d" has man page. But what "/usr/lib/modprobe.d"? > > man 5 modprobe.d Yes, I read this, but can't make head of it. Shall I take it that, as all there mentioned directories: /usr/lib/modprobe.d/ /etc/modprobe.d/ /run/modprobe.d/ are quite equivalent? When yes - we had there for long time "/etc/modprobe.conf" and "/etc/modprobe.d/", thus why are there another two directories? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: purpose of "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" & "/usr/lib/modprobe.d" ?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 15:26:14 +0200, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: In F16? is new directory "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" and in F17 new "/usr/lib/modprobe.d". For which purposes these directories serves? Modprobe man pages mention second of them, but without any explanation. Sorry, "modules-load.d" has man page. But what "/usr/lib/modprobe.d"? modules-load.d is for what modules to load. modprobe.d is for supplying configuration for doing the load. Some modules won't need configuration. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: purpose of "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" & "/usr/lib/modprobe.d" ?
On 07/21/2012 09:26 PM, Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > Sorry, "modules-load.d" has man page. But what "/usr/lib/modprobe.d"? man 5 modprobe.d -- Never be afraid to laugh at yourself, after all, you could be missing out on the joke of the century. -- Dame Edna Everage -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: purpose of "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" & "/usr/lib/modprobe.d" ?
Frantisek Hanzlik wrote: > In F16? is new directory "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" and in F17 new > "/usr/lib/modprobe.d". For which purposes these directories serves? > Modprobe man pages mention second of them, but without any > explanation. Sorry, "modules-load.d" has man page. But what "/usr/lib/modprobe.d"? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
purpose of "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" & "/usr/lib/modprobe.d" ?
In F16? is new directory "/usr/lib/modules-load.d" and in F17 new "/usr/lib/modprobe.d". For which purposes these directories serves? Modprobe man pages mention second of them, but without any explanation. Thanks, Franta -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Even disregarding recompiling (and rewriting in a cross-platform way) > C++ code, is there even a JVM or Mono interpreter for ARM? Well duh!! ;) GPL Java (OpenJDK) is available for ARM. http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk6-dev/2009-April/000455.html "OpenJDK6 have been known to compile and run on embedded ARM systems since the summer 2008. Binaryies are currently shipping with the Debian/Linux ARM "armel" distribution, the Ubuntu "armel" ARM distribution and various embedded Linux distributions based on the openembedded infrastructure." --- OpenJDK on Meego/N9/N900 http://wiki.maemo.org/OpenJDK_6.0_0_%28Cambridge_Software_Labs%29_on_N900 Hardware accelerated video on OpenJDK/ARM http://labb.zafena.se/?p=514 I'm testing a TI Pandaboard with Fedora/17 arm and there's OpenJDK too http://arm.koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/rpminfo?rpmID=219334 So, yes, reports about Java's alleged irrelevance have been greatly exaggerated ;) FC -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.
On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 10:53 -0500, Steven Stern wrote: > On the other hand, "Porky Goodness" would be a great name for > something. > Maybe a band, though, and not a Fedora distribution. Sounds like a trashy porno name... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Veeti Paananen wrote: > That may sound incredibly pedantic and petty to complain about, but > these sort of seemingly small inconsistencies and problems pile up to > build a really visually displeasing UI. And that's not all: they can > also pose real usability issues. > > A good example of this is the file tree in IntelliJ IDEA, a Java IDE > that I have the pleasure of using on a daily basis. Whenever I > right-click a file for more options, the underlying filename doesn't get > highlighted with a blue background like you would expect it to: this > always leaves me wondering if I selected the right item or not. You are right, it sounds a bit like nitpicking. But be positive: How about filing a bug report?. You know Java is open source and GPL since late 2006. With OpenJDK 7 being the Java 7 reference implementation, many if not all bugfixes end up both on the freeware JRE/JDK and OpenJDK as well. I´m telling you this because one issue that you mention (file requesters) is finally fixed in OpenJDK 7, as mentioned here: gtkjfilechooser A prettier JFileChooser for Swing's GTK look and feel http://code.google.com/p/gtkjfilechooser/ "I solved the problem contributing to the JDK 7: The java.awt.FileDialog uses now native GTK file chooser on linux distros " ...so hopefully things can only improve moving forward... FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act Durante épocas de Engaño Universal, decir la verdad se convierte en un Acto Revolucionario - George Orwell -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Proposal request for ideas on naming Fedora releases.
Can we start trimming the responses to the relevant bits please? -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On 21 July 2012 11:16, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: > On 21 July 2012 10:51, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> Even disregarding recompiling (and rewriting in a cross-platform way) >> C++ code, is there even a JVM or Mono interpreter for ARM? I need to buy a faster microSD. Saving a couple of quids by bying a cat 4 card was a mistake. It took forever to unpack the files. And here's the proof, this is a small util I wrote which reads ADIF 2.x files and inserts them into a DB so that I can run reports on them in a meaningful manner. pi@raspberrypi ~ $ java -cp pskjdb.jar com.hakankoseoglu.pskdb.PskDB Syntax: java PskDB [options] -file name : File to parse and merge to the database -user user : Database username -password password : Database password -dbname sub-name : JDBC URL string to the database Sample DBName: @localhost:1521:log Optional parameters -debug : Turn the debugging mode on -protocol : JDBC protocol (default is oracle:thin) -perf : Disable timings -driver : JDBC driver (default is oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver) Sample command: java -cp tools.jar:ojdbc14.jar com.hakankoseoglu.PskDB -user loguser -password logpasswd -dbname @//localhost/1521:log -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On 21 July 2012 10:51, Dotan Cohen wrote: > Even disregarding recompiling (and rewriting in a cross-platform way) > C++ code, is there even a JVM or Mono interpreter for ARM? Unless Debian is lying to me: pi@raspberrypi ~ $ apt-cache search openjdk default-jdk - Standard Java or Java compatible Development Kit default-jre - Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime default-jre-headless - Standard Java or Java compatible Runtime (headless) icedtea-6-jre-cacao - Alternative JVM for OpenJDK, using Cacao icedtea-6-plugin - web browser plugin based on OpenJDK and IcedTea to execute Java applets icedtea-7-plugin - web browser plugin based on OpenJDK and IcedTea to execute Java applets jtreg - Regression Test Harness for the OpenJDK platform openjdk-6-dbg - Java runtime based on OpenJDK (debugging symbols) openjdk-6-demo - Java runtime based on OpenJDK (demos and examples) openjdk-6-doc - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) documentation openjdk-6-jdk - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) openjdk-6-jre - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot Zero openjdk-6-jre-headless - OpenJDK Java runtime, using Hotspot Zero (headless) openjdk-6-jre-lib - OpenJDK Java runtime (architecture independent libraries) openjdk-6-source - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) source files openjdk-7-doc - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) documentation openjdk-7-jre-lib - OpenJDK Java runtime (architecture independent libraries) openjdk-7-source - OpenJDK Development Kit (JDK) source files uwsgi-app-integration-plugins - plugins for integration of uWSGI and application uwsgi-plugin-jvm-openjdk-6 - Java plugin for uWSGI (OpenJDK 6) uwsgi-plugin-jwsgi-openjdk-6 - JWSGI plugin for uWSGI (OpenJDK 6) pi@raspberrypi ~ $ arch armv6l -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Chris Tyler wrote: > This is why I'm hoping a lot of devs get a Raspberry Pi (256MB split > with the GPU, 700MHz) and run their own code on it :-) > If there were an x86 or amd64 equivalent then I would agree. Being ARM, I don't see this happening. Even disregarding recompiling (and rewriting in a cross-platform way) C++ code, is there even a JVM or Mono interpreter for ARM? -- Dotan Cohen http://gibberish.co.il http://what-is-what.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is Gnome becoming a Microsoft project?
On 21 July 2012 03:43, Chris Tyler wrote: > On Fri, 2012-07-20 at 11:07 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: >> On 07/20/2012 05:25 AM, Tim wrote: >> > Whether that be Java, or Flash, or anything else. It seems far too >> > common that a programmer would not care that their program is >> > ridiculously inefficient to the point that multitasking becomes nearly >> > impossible. >> >> Very few programmers, any more, are taught to be frugal with memory. >> They have no idea how to control memory use and no understanding of why. >> Most developers use computers with lots and lots of memory for their >> work, so they never see the results of their careless attitudes. As >> long as *they're* not running short of RAM, it's not a problem as far as >> they're concerned. And, if mere users complain, they're response is, >> "It works for me." > > This is why I'm hoping a lot of devs get a Raspberry Pi (256MB split > with the GPU, 700MHz) and run their own code on it :-) It's not quite this straightforward. I do a reasonable amount of scientific computing, which is pretty simple from an architecture point of view, but even then you don't have some sliding scale which says this program will use X amount of memory vs take this many CPU cycles. You might be able to guess where the tradeoff is, and make estimates for how much memory is going to be required, but you may still find the amount of memory required is too much for the machine. Or that it's acceptable but as a result the program is going to take a month to run. Or that there's no acceptable compromise and you have to adapt the underlying toolkit to allow a better way of handling the problem. Or that it's just going to take those resources to run and there's no significant improvement that can be made. And at each of those steps you have to refactor what you've written, there are no sliders to drag around to do it for you. -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
