Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-17 Thread Mihamina Rakotomandimby

On 2013-04-18 08:51, g wrote:

i have been using the fnal release, 1st in list, for about years, just
after the release of sl 5.0, and i can say that it has been a very stable
and reliable linux.


What is your use case?

I mean: I use CentOS 5 & 6 for Web developpers usage.

We have to use custom compiled PHP 5.2, PHP 5.3, and several Java 
related compenents (Tomcat, Maven, Ant, Sonar, Jenkins,...)


Besides, we also need to install custom compiled "ffmpeg" (ie with 
defined video transcode option). For the PHP side, we have IUS and many 
other 3rd party repos).


I think CentOS is the right choice, because of the packagers ecosystem. 
I dont find many 3rd party packagers for SL.



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Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-17 Thread g


On 04/12/2013 11:04 AM, Mike Dwiggins wrote:
<<>>


One outstanding suggestion that came up in this discussion was
Scientific Linux  as the "Supported by CERN" could be a powerful selling
point.  That post had me doing the classic head thump D'Oh! I had
forgotten about that release!

Female involved in the decision chain has great respect and admiration
for the work of CERN and their web page shows no hint of their relation
to CentOS!  That is a stable platform that I am certain I can get
accepted.  Boss taking a long weekend so I have plenty of time to work
up the presentation.


true, the scientific linux released by cern is a rhel clone, and a good one.

please be aware tho, that it is more customized that the scientific linux
released by fnal, ie, argon national labs out side of chicago, il.

check these links to find out more;

  https://www.scientificlinux.org/
  https://www.scientificlinux.org/documentation/
  http://www.scientificlinux.org/news/
  http://fermilinux.fnal.gov/documentation/
  http://linux.web.cern.ch/linux/docs/

i have been using the fnal release, 1st in list, for about years, just
after the release of sl 5.0, and i can say that it has been a very stable
and reliable linux.

they have regular upgrade releases and security updates that usually follow
within 24 hrs of what is released by rhel. i am aware of this because i
subscribe to the list from rhsa-annou...@redhat.com, so i can get a full
picture of what is happening.

also, they recently extended the eol to 10 yrs.

if you do decide to go with the fnal release, i would say that you are
making a good choice, and much better than using centos.

the support list is very good and there are at least 3 fnal maintainers
that are regularly following and replying to the list. the rest of the
support repliers are also very much familiar with sl. so, you should
have very little trouble correcting any problems you might run into.
if you should have any.

over the past 6 years of using scientific linux, i have recommend it to
many friends and clients, guessing to be well over 50. i had some clients
that could not convert because of special software they used in their
business. the others were able to move their data into similar linux
software.

of the friends who i have converted, there are only 2 who went back to oos.
one because he had special programs that had no equivalent, other was
because he was too lazy to learn a little bit about how to administer his
system. he did admit to liking linux, but just did not care to learn a
new os.

this is all my opinion about linux and scientific linux, but it is based
on what i have learned. cromix, a clone of bsd, was my first multi system,
so i had little problems picking up on the difference of linux.

from what i have read in your post, i doubt that you will have much trouble
moving to linux and administering it.

as for 'selling it', what has your boss got to worry about if she has you
and you fully back up your current os before changing? ;-)

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Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-17 Thread Ed Greshko
On 04/18/13 11:23, William Mattison wrote:
> I imported from a Redhat 9 system many files created by vi and containing a 
> mix of English and simplified Chinese.  When I load any of those into vi(m) 
> on the Fedora-18 system, the simplified Chinese is not displayed properly.  I 
> notice at the bottom of the Konsole/XTerm/Terminal, there is a message saying 
> "converted".  I don't know if there's a connection.  Both the message and the 
> failure to properly display the simplified Chinese happen regardless of the 
> simplified Chinese encoding that I choose in the terminal's preferences.  Any 
> ideas/suggestions anyone?

What do you get when you type

file filename  ?

I don't remember, but I think in the Fedora 9 days Unicode may not have been 
the default.  The encoding you have may be GB2312.

You can try running

iconv -f GB2312 -t UTF8 filename > filename.utf8

and then vi the resulting file

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Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-17 Thread inode0
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Craig White  wrote:
> Scientific Linux has paid staff to build packages whereas CentOS is
> strictly unpaid/volunteer packagers.

I think that changed last year.

http://centosnow.blogspot.com/2012/06/centos-project-release-times.html

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Re: how to make user account partially bi-lingual?

2013-04-17 Thread William Mattison
> (Fedora-18; all desktops)
> ...
> How does root and/or the user set up his account so he always has these 
> abilities?
> In effect, we want the account to be bi-lingual, with English as the primary 
> language,
> and simplified Chinese being a secondary language.
>
> Thank-you in advance for your help.
> Bill.

Ed Greshko answered:
> Run "im-chooser" and then select ibus as the input method.  You'll then need 
> to
> configure the input methods to add whatever method you want for Simplified 
> Chinese.
> I'm pretty sure this gets you want you want since you seem most in need of 
> inputting in
> Chinese.  Viewing shouldn't be an issue.

In addition to what Ed suggested, it was also needed to add simplified Chinese 
within the "System Settings" GUI under the user name in the upper right corner 
of the screen.  I also wrestled with preferences in Konsole, Terminal, and 
XTerm.  Things now seem to be fine in LibreOffice.  I can create a new 
simplified Chinese or mixed file with vi(m).  But...

I imported from a Redhat 9 system many files created by vi and containing a mix 
of English and simplified Chinese.  When I load any of those into vi(m) on the 
Fedora-18 system, the simplified Chinese is not displayed properly.  I notice 
at the bottom of the Konsole/XTerm/Terminal, there is a message saying 
"converted".  I don't know if there's a connection.  Both the message and the 
failure to properly display the simplified Chinese happen regardless of the 
simplified Chinese encoding that I choose in the terminal's preferences.  Any 
ideas/suggestions anyone?

thanks,
Bill.
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Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-17 Thread Craig White
On Fri, 2013-04-12 at 09:04 -0700, Mike Dwiggins wrote:

> Excellent summation Tim!  As I said my problem was not what I wanted but 
> what I could "Sell" to the Boss.
> 
> One outstanding suggestion that came up in this discussion was 
> Scientific Linux  as the "Supported by CERN" could be a powerful selling 
> point.  That post had me doing the classic head thump D'Oh! I had 
> forgotten about that release!
> 
> Female involved in the decision chain has great respect and admiration 
> for the work of CERN and their web page shows no hint of their relation 
> to CentOS!  That is a stable platform that I am certain I can get 
> accepted.  Boss taking a long weekend so I have plenty of time to work 
> up the presentation.

Connie is well respected by the Linux community but the fact that she is
female means absolutely nothing and I cringed at the reference as it
completely doesn't matter.

There are some distinctive differences between the philosophies of
CentOS and Scientific Linux and you probably should take some time to
educate yourself on them as they do matter. 

CentOS tries to build all packages as closely as possible to RHEL -
essentially striving for total binary compatibility which means not
fixing bugs that are known to exist in RHEL but they do report the bugs
to Red Hat.

Scientific does not try to achieve binary compatibility and in fact
makes conscious choices of changes - sometimes different compiling
options for packages - fixing known bugs with their own developed code,
etc.

Scientific Linux has shorter support windows than RHEL or CentOS which
may be significant too.

Scientific Linux has paid staff to build packages whereas CentOS is
strictly unpaid/volunteer packagers.

They all exist to scratch a different itch. There are differences.

Craig


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Re: F18 livecd can't play wma files, and no mplayer

2013-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Reindl Harald  wrote:
> use rpmfusion and NOT atrpms
> that's the same as for a physical install

Thanks, enabled RPMFUSION and it's now downloading a thousand deps
(ok, 29 deps actually), and it'll use 55 MB of HD space.

I still think a static build of MPlayer would be great, but I see here
building one is apparently not so easy:
http://mplayerhq.hu/pipermail/mplayer-users/2011-August/083170.html

(Ironically, on win32 there's plenty of static builds of ffmpeg, and I
think I've seen Mplayer builds for Win32 delivered as a single huge
file as well).

Oh well...

What is ironic is that if I google long enough, I'll surely find some
wma player written in Java that I could run by just downloading a
single .jar file and running it with OpenJDK... so much for the
advantage of the 'linux way' of a thousand dependencies on system libs
scattered throughout the system... ;)

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Re: how to create iso9660 archive.

2013-04-17 Thread Mark C. Allman
On Wed, 2013-04-17 at 20:01 -0500, g wrote:

On 04/17/2013 07:26 PM, William Mattison wrote:
> > (fedora-18, all desktops)
> >
> > I would like to burn a single dvd with an ISO9660 - Rock Ridge - Joliet
> > file made from: * /home/user1/project17/ * /home/user2/project17/ *
> > /home/user2/.hidden/ Each of these directories has multiple levels of
> > subdirectories.  user1 and user2 each has other directories directly under
> > his $HOME directory.  I tried to use "Brasero" to do this.  But the ISO file
> > it created was a mere 71.7 KB, though these three directories contain over
> > 600 MB of files.  I get the impression that the tool only looked one level
> > below what I dragged to the right side of the screen.  I need it to go all
> > the way down, like a "cp -r".  On my old Redhat 9 system, X-CD-Roast handled
> > that beautifully.  I also tried this with another tool whose name I now
> > cannot now recall or find.  It was worse.  How do I do this with Fedora-18?
> 
> have you considered "K3b"?
> 
> k3b allows you to do what you want, as it allows you to pre-build
> your own paths and then drag in what ever files, directories, or
> paths than you want.
> 
> above is main reason i have used over the years from when i was
> first released.
> 
> hth
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> 
> in a world with out fences, who needs gates.
> 
> tc. hago.
> 
> g
> .
> 

I'd try this from the shell:

genisoimage -V YourLabel -pad -R -quiet  \
   -o  YourFile.iso  \
   /home/user1/project17/  \
   /home/user2/project17/  \
   /home/user2/.hidden/

wodim dev=/dev/Your_DVD_Device -dao -data YourFile.iso


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Re: F18 livecd can't play wma files, and no mplayer

2013-04-17 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 18.04.2013 02:36, schrieb Fernando Cassia:
> I booted Fedora 18 off a LiveCD, and want to play back wma files.
> 
> So far, all my attempts have been unsuccesful. It's clear no wma
> playback codecs are included with the files.
> Plus, MPlayer, which usually plays back 'everything' is NOT included
> in the official repos, and if I try to install mplayer from ATRPMS, it
> gets a thousands (I'm exaggerating) dependencies and installation
> aborts

use rpmfusion and NOT atrpms
that's the same as for a physical install



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Re: how to create iso9660 archive.

2013-04-17 Thread g



On 04/17/2013 07:26 PM, William Mattison wrote:

(fedora-18, all desktops)

I would like to burn a single dvd with an ISO9660 - Rock Ridge - Joliet
file made from: * /home/user1/project17/ * /home/user2/project17/ *
/home/user2/.hidden/ Each of these directories has multiple levels of
subdirectories.  user1 and user2 each has other directories directly under
his $HOME directory.  I tried to use "Brasero" to do this.  But the ISO file
it created was a mere 71.7 KB, though these three directories contain over
600 MB of files.  I get the impression that the tool only looked one level
below what I dragged to the right side of the screen.  I need it to go all
the way down, like a "cp -r".  On my old Redhat 9 system, X-CD-Roast handled
that beautifully.  I also tried this with another tool whose name I now
cannot now recall or find.  It was worse.  How do I do this with Fedora-18?


have you considered "K3b"?

k3b allows you to do what you want, as it allows you to pre-build
your own paths and then drag in what ever files, directories, or
paths than you want.

above is main reason i have used over the years from when i was
first released.

hth
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F18 livecd can't play wma files, and no mplayer

2013-04-17 Thread Fernando Cassia
I booted Fedora 18 off a LiveCD, and want to play back wma files.

So far, all my attempts have been unsuccesful. It's clear no wma
playback codecs are included with the files.
Plus, MPlayer, which usually plays back 'everything' is NOT included
in the official repos, and if I try to install mplayer from ATRPMS, it
gets a thousands (I'm exaggerating) dependencies and installation
aborts.

I tried looking around for a STATIC BUILD of mplayer, but that doesn't
seem to exist (someone used to compile mplayer statically, many many
years ago, but it seems there's no static builds of recent versions).

Please, let me know of ANY -preferably tiny and NOT dependencies
encumbered- player I can run on F18 from a LiveCD to play back wma
files

TIA
FC

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how to create iso9660 archive.

2013-04-17 Thread William Mattison
(fedora-18, all desktops)

I would like to burn a single dvd with an ISO9660 - Rock Ridge - Joliet file 
made from:
* /home/user1/project17/
* /home/user2/project17/
* /home/user2/.hidden/
Each of these directories has multiple levels of subdirectories.  user1 and 
user2 each has other directories directly under his $HOME directory.  I tried 
to use "Brasero" to do this.  But the ISO file it created was a mere 71.7 KB, 
though these three directories contain over 600 MB of files.  I get the 
impression that the tool only looked one level below what I dragged to the 
right side of the screen.  I need it to go all the way down, like a "cp -r".  
On my old Redhat 9 system, X-CD-Roast handled that beautifully.  I also tried 
this with another tool whose name I now cannot now recall or find.  It was 
worse.  How do I do this with Fedora-18?

Thank-you in advance for your help.
Bill.
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Re: The Virt-Manager Storage Disks Fedora 18 host.

2013-04-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 23:23:06 +0200
poma  wrote:

> On 17.04.2013 19:32, poma wrote:
> > On 17.04.2013 17:33, Frank Murphy wrote:

> Hah!
> Frank, it would be nice of you to use the correct terminology[1]. ;)
> Your so called "virt-images" are not a virtual machines per se.
> It is possible that you do not use physical discs as a block based
> storage pool, nor as a storage volumes at all - but you're adding
> them directly to guests as a physical devices.

No storage pool correct, 
in Virt-Manager I add storage physical
disk /dev/sd*


> So an UUID[2] is probably what you need:
> /etc/libvirt/qemu/Magrathea.xml
> […]
> 
>   
>   
>   
>   
> 
> […]
> 
> 

Thanks for this, confused myself also.


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Re: The Virt-Manager Storage Disks Fedora 18 host.

2013-04-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 19:32:51 +0200
poma  wrote:

> On 17.04.2013 17:33, Frank Murphy wrote:
> > On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:58:20 +0200
> > poma  wrote:
> > 
> >> Mount points are the mount points, regardless of the disks
> >> layout. :)
> 
> […]
> 
> > What are you talking about?
> 
> What am I talking about!? :)
> 
> > If the stated disk in Virt-Manager is sdf for  eg Fedora-17
> > and the host then changes it to sdg, it's still sdf in
> > virt-Manager. Thus it complains about the image not being found.
> 
> You haven't confirmed the first question.
> That part you left out in this response, and it is essential to
> clarify the problem. ;)
> 
> poma
> 

Apologies, didn't see first part.


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Re: The Virt-Manager Storage Disks Fedora 18 host.

2013-04-17 Thread poma
On 17.04.2013 19:32, poma wrote:
> On 17.04.2013 17:33, Frank Murphy wrote:
>> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:58:20 +0200
>> poma  wrote:
>>
>>> Mount points are the mount points, regardless of the disks
>>> layout. :)
> 
> […]
> 
>> What are you talking about?
> 
> What am I talking about!? :)
> 
>> If the stated disk in Virt-Manager is sdf for  eg Fedora-17
>> and the host then changes it to sdg, it's still sdf in virt-Manager.
>> Thus it complains about the image not being found.
> 
> You haven't confirmed the first question.
> That part you left out in this response, and it is essential to clarify
> the problem. ;)

Hah!
Frank, it would be nice of you to use the correct terminology[1]. ;)
Your so called "virt-images" are not a virtual machines per se.
It is possible that you do not use physical discs as a block based
storage pool, nor as a storage volumes at all - but you're adding them
directly to guests as a physical devices.
So an UUID[2] is probably what you need:
/etc/libvirt/qemu/Magrathea.xml
[…]

  
  
  
  

[…]


poma


[1]
https://access.redhat.com/site/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/6/html-single/Virtualization_Administration_Guide/index.html
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universally_unique_identifier

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Re: OT: Linode doubling RAM

2013-04-17 Thread Darrell Duane
Thanks for putting this here.  I'm bummed because I didn't know about this
until I happened to come across the blog post.  I checked with Linode and
asked them if there was a way to send e-mail notifications out about
such enhancements  and they said no, but that one could set up RSS to do
this.  I went to https://ifttt.com/ and set up a rule that now e-mails me
every time Linode has new news posted on their blog.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Steven Stern <
subscribed-li...@sterndata.com> wrote:

> FYI, if you're doing any hosting on Linode, they've announced a free
> doubling of RAM for all systems. If you have a system there, put it into
> the upgrade queue.
>
> http://blog.linode.com/2013/04/09/linode-nextgen-ram-upgrade/
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Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-17 Thread James Hogarth
>
>
> The top program may shed some light, I don't think of anything off-hand
which measures disk performance on a per-process basis.
>
>

There is actually an iotop that does this ;-)
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Re: Problem with cron

2013-04-17 Thread Joe Zeff

On 04/17/2013 02:57 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:

I'm not sure I understand the question, because above example already
shows how the $EDITOR environment variable is set to nano for crontab
to pick it up.


What I don't understand is why you're bothering with this three weeks 
later.  It's just like over at fedoraforum.org where somebody made a 
foolish suggestion today about an issue I'd marked as [SOLVED] six days 
ago, with a complete explanation of what caused it that had nothing to 
do with today's twiticism.

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Re: How to disable fsck of root-filesystem at boot time?

2013-04-17 Thread poma
On 17.04.2013 15:57, Clemens Eisserer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I would like to run Fedora on a nilfs2 root-partition.
> For now I only added the nilfs2-module to dracut.conf and it loads
> fine up to the point where it tries to execute the non-existing
> fsck.nilfs2.

"nilfs2 on /" :)

> Is there any way to disable the execution of fsck.nilfs2?

You just do not do it!
It is a bad practice, generally speaking.

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Re: The Virt-Manager Storage Disks Fedora 18 host.

2013-04-17 Thread poma
On 17.04.2013 17:33, Frank Murphy wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:58:20 +0200
> poma  wrote:
> 
>> Mount points are the mount points, regardless of the disks
>> layout. :)

[…]

> What are you talking about?

What am I talking about!? :)

> If the stated disk in Virt-Manager is sdf for  eg Fedora-17
> and the host then changes it to sdg, it's still sdf in virt-Manager.
> Thus it complains about the image not being found.

You haven't confirmed the first question.
That part you left out in this response, and it is essential to clarify
the problem. ;)

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Re: How to disable fsck of root-filesystem at boot time?

2013-04-17 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 17.04.2013 17:33, schrieb Clemens Eisserer:
> Hi Harald,
> 
>> man fstab for the last two columns
>> UUID=b935b5db-0051-4f7f-83ac-6a6651fe0988  / ext4  0  0
> 
> Hmm, that alone didn't do the trick as / has to be mounted in order to
> read /etc/fstab

but READONLY, that is what the ro is for

> However I found out about an "fastboot" kernel option which seems to
> work well in combination with your suggestion.

fastboot disables ANY filesystem-check for any partition
have fun after a crash / power fail if continue working
without fixing problems at boot

> Thanks :)
> Regards, Clemens

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Re: The Virt-Manager Storage Disks Fedora 18 host.

2013-04-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013 15:58:20 +0200
poma  wrote:

> Mount points are the mount points, regardless of the disks
> layout. :)
> 
> poma

What are you talking about?
If the stated disk in Virt-Manager is sdf for  eg Fedora-17
and the host then changes it to sdg, it's still sdf in virt-Manager.
Thus it complains about the image not being found.


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Re: How to disable fsck of root-filesystem at boot time?

2013-04-17 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi Harald,

> man fstab for the last two columns
> UUID=b935b5db-0051-4f7f-83ac-6a6651fe0988  / ext4  0  0

Hmm, that alone didn't do the trick as / has to be mounted in order to
read /etc/fstab.
However I found out about an "fastboot" kernel option which seems to
work well in combination with your suggestion.

Thanks :)

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Re: Fedora vs RHEL

2013-04-17 Thread Paul W. Frields
On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 03:44:41PM -0500, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
> Joe Zeff wrote:
> > On 04/16/2013 12:57 PM, Matthew J. Roth wrote:
> > > To be fair to Bill, your original analogy equating a subscription to RHN 
> > > to
> > > homeowner's insurance is false.  He did the best he could with what you 
> > > gave him
> > > to work with.
> > 
> > I see what you mean.  Would having a plumber or electrician on a 
> > retainer in case you ever needed them be closer?
> 
> I'd say a subscription to RHN is closer to a home warranty.  It may come in
> handy if you need it, but there are many ways to void its coverage and if you
> don't need it then it's wasted money.

I like it!

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Re: [389-users] X11 forwarding refused

2013-04-17 Thread Aziza Lichir
Hey,
Thanks for your quick answer, for the moment I installed the 389 console on
a WindowsXP machine and i want to know if i can replicate users from AD
knowing that i only use a normal user account and without activating Ldaps ?

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Re: How to disable fsck of root-filesystem at boot time?

2013-04-17 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 17.04.2013 15:57, schrieb Clemens Eisserer:

> I would like to run Fedora on a nilfs2 root-partition.
> For now I only added the nilfs2-module to dracut.conf and it loads
> fine up to the point where it tries to execute the non-existing
> fsck.nilfs2.
> 
> Is there any way to disable the execution of fsck.nilfs2?

man fstab for the last two columns
UUID=b935b5db-0051-4f7f-83ac-6a6651fe0988  / ext4  0  0



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Re: The Virt-Manager Storage Disks Fedora 18 host.

2013-04-17 Thread poma
On 17.04.2013 10:41, Frank Murphy wrote:
> I have 5 physical disks, on which the virt-images are stored.

Probably you have 5 physical disks *partitions* *mounted* on a storage
*pool* *directory* defaulting to "/var/lib/libvirt/images", right?

> What I have found is for whatever reason, I need to put a new
> disk or disk-controller card into the host machine.
> 
> It can changes the order of the disks as seen by the host.
> So vm's may not start as the physical disk they are on eg: /dev/sdd
> is now /dev/sdf or or /dev/sdc
> 
> What can I do to protect myself from this in the future.

Mount points are the mount points, regardless of the disks layout. :)

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How to disable fsck of root-filesystem at boot time?

2013-04-17 Thread Clemens Eisserer
Hi,

I would like to run Fedora on a nilfs2 root-partition.
For now I only added the nilfs2-module to dracut.conf and it loads
fine up to the point where it tries to execute the non-existing
fsck.nilfs2.

Is there any way to disable the execution of fsck.nilfs2?

Thanks, Clemens
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How to avoid ARP flux issue in linux?

2013-04-17 Thread Kevin Peterson
Hi, 

I have a setup where eth0 and eth1 interfaces are in same broadcast domain.

But i have a virtual IP configured on eth1 and a physical ip on eth0.
It is observed that if eth0 is default route then eth0 will respond to arp 
request for the IP configured on eth1.

This would cause an issue since traffic will be routed via eth0.

Thanks,
Kevin Peterson


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Re: random reboot finally hits me

2013-04-17 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 17.04.2013 13:55, schrieb Tom Horsley:
> I've been seeing other f18 users talk about random reboots,
> and last night I finally had one as well. I'm not sure this
> 3.8 kernel should be called "stable" yet :-).

it is stable here on 6 physical machines, 4 of them are
servers 24/7 on as also on around 20 production servers
on top of ESXi on Fedora 18 as well as Fedora 17




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random reboot finally hits me

2013-04-17 Thread Tom Horsley
I've been seeing other f18 users talk about random reboots,
and last night I finally had one as well. I'm not sure this
3.8 kernel should be called "stable" yet :-).

I thought maybe all the scripts I have on cron downloading
and transcoding programs from my TiVo overheated the CPU,
but all the transcoding finished an hour or so before the
system rebooted.

Also, the reboot didn't work. When I turned on the TV
I use as a monitor, the reboot was stuck at the
"Starting KDE login manager" step (which is normally
about the last thing it does), no GUI ever came
up. (I wonder if the Intel video driver hung because
the TV was off and it couldn't fetch EDID info?).

Once I power cycled it, it booted up OK, but the only
suspicious things I could find in any log files were
chunks of NULL bytes laying around from when I power
cycled the machine.
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Re: Problem with cron

2013-04-17 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Sun, 24 Mar 2013 10:02:31 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:

> On 03/24/2013 03:12 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Verify that $EDITOR is set actually. $EDITOR is evaluated here just fine.
> > And
> >
> >$ echo $EDITOR
> >emacs
> >$ EDITOR=nano crontab -e
> >
> >crontab: no changes made to crontab
> 
> As I'm sure I've written before, I've checked this with echo, and 
> they're set.  However, do they need to be Exported to be picked up by 
> crontab?

I'm not sure I understand the question, because above example already
shows how the $EDITOR environment variable is set to nano for crontab
to pick it up.

The example could be rewritten to be more clear:

  $ echo $EDITOR
  emacs
  $ EDITOR=nano
  $ echo $EDITOR
  nano
  $ crontab -e
  
  crontab: no changes made to crontab

The "Ctrl-X" refers to exiting "nano". One can see that $EDITOR is set
correctly in the environment and that "crontab" picks it up.

Exporting refers to whether parts of the environment (here a variable)
would be automatically made available to subsequent commands (which
can be especially important for running shell-scripts).

  $ TEST=hello
  $ echo $TEST
  hello
  $ bash
  $ echo $TEST

  $ exit
  $ export TEST
  $ bash
  $ echo $TEST
  hello
  $ exit
  $

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The Virt-Manager Storage Disks Fedora 18 host.

2013-04-17 Thread Frank Murphy
I have 5 physical disks, on which the virt-images are stored.

What I have found is for whatever reason, I need to put a new
disk or disk-controller card into the host machine.

It can changes the order of the disks as seen by the host.
So vm's may not start as the physical disk they are on eg: /dev/sdd
is now /dev/sdf or or /dev/sdc

What can I do to protect myself from this in the future.

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Re: Extract ".rar" file -

2013-04-17 Thread Frank Murphy
On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 18:18:54 -0300
"Germán A. Racca"  wrote:


> 
> "for some reason the folks that built the p7zip-plugins rpm didn't 
> compile the 7z.so with the rar format plugin in it"
> 
> p7zip packagers explain that in the spec file:
> 
> "RAR sources removed since their license is incompatible with the
> LGPL"
> 
> Germán.
> 
> 

Test list was just discussing this,
thread here:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2013-April/114848.html


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Re: Fedora vs CentOS -- php/apache and Drupal 7

2013-04-17 Thread Bill Davidsen

Roger wrote:

This is a call for understanding because of lack of knowledge. Apologies for the
mix of issues in one message but they all relate to the same problem.
Firstly,
I've been reading the pro's and con's of RHEL and Fedora and am none the wiser.
It seems to be around cost of service and lack or availability thereof. The
beginning discussion was, I think on stability.

It made me start thinking about Fedora vs CentOS because of the problems I'm
experiencing with Drupal 7 and php/Apache in Fedora 18 so here goes.

You need to make sure the Drupal and php versions are compatible. Actually the 
php and everything else, as my impression is that 5.4 is not a proper superset 
of earlier versions, a clear violation of Plauger's Law of Least Astonishment.



I believe that the latest Apache updates of some time ago were flawed or do not
correctly  interact with php or php updates were flawed and have not been
corrected. I have nothing to back up this assertion other than the problems now
being experienced and a recommendation to remove php 5.4 and revert to an
earlier version.
Please don't quote me on this, It's what I've noticed, read and considered.

What I said, but only the advice without the explanation. An upgrade to whatever 
is not working to match php would be better, but you do what you must.



When I use Ruby on Rails I do not have issues because it uses WEBrick.


Answered elsewhere.


Discussion to date says that CentOS circa 6.n has the Fedora 14 kernel, is rock
solid and gets updates every 6 months approx.
Fedora 18 has kernel updates every few days or weeks at most. Frankly I enjoy
the update cycle. It's interesting to see what gets improved. I have always run
latest Fedora versions and have not experienced the current raft of problems.

RHEL/CentOS/SL are not "updated" to new versions (with rare exceptions) but 
patched with back ported security fixes. THis gives stbility (they work the 
same) with security (the bugs stop being an issue).



Fedora 18 sudo yum update, updates everything apps, modules, etc that needs
security fixes or improvements.

CentOS is a server system but can be used for a stable desktop system and has
been recommended as an alternative.
So what does CentOS 6.n desktop, yum update actually update or does it leave all
the apps like cinnamon desktop, skype, gimp, apache, php, libreoffice, python,
pulseaudio, gnome, Firefox or chrome as they are first installed, circa Fedora
14ish?
One would think that this would leave significant vulnerability.
If it runs the latest spate of updates then is it not little different from
Fedora 18 but with an old kernel?


It stays like Fedora14, old software now working as intended.


Further reading implies that the better CentOS installation should be text based
as a server only and that I should run all my work on the server not Fedora 18.

I am now having significant problems with an already built Drupal 7 site on
Fedora 18 after the latest spate of php updates and am perplexed as to what to
do to get a quality stable functioning and stay functioning.
  I've got ubuntu 12.10 but it is now so slow that it's not easy to use.

Further, I have 2 gig memory, intel mb, fast dual cpu, 250g hard drives and my
desktop fedora 18 uses 55-63 percent memory. I thought this may be affecting php
and apache, hence Drupal, but
The Dell 1520 laptop has the same internals and memory and uses 25percent of the
2 gig memory, same drupal, same Ruby on Rails.
I'm puzzled because after checking ps aux, top, and System Monitor on both they
are very similar yet memory usage is markedly different. I do not know what I
should be looking at to understand the issues and/or fixes.

Depends on what you have run and are running, stuff will be in cache and 
buffers, that RAM is "available" rather than "free." Read about caching if that 
isn't enough.



Is there an app that I can use to track what happens in the browser, apache, php
and Drupal when I start the Drupal site on my machine.
Help is greatly appreciated


The top program may shed some light, I don't think of anything off-hand which 
measures disk performance on a per-process basis.



thanks in advance
Roger
Off Topic...Does anyone know of a Rails dev who would be able to help and teach
me building a small application?


Not my thing to do for fun or money.


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