Re: firefox crash

2013-05-25 Thread Tim
On Fri, 2013-05-24 at 09:15 -0700, Konstantin Svist wrote:
 If you just updated firefox, you may need to reboot the machine - I've
 seen stability problems before reboot

Seems a bit extreme, this isn't Windows.  For sure, you quit Firefox and
make sure it's not running at all, after an update.  I've certainly seen
Firefox screw up if I tried to use it while it was still running during
an update.  But I've never had to reboot for it.

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Re: Big problem with an update

2013-05-25 Thread Frank McCormick

On 05/25/2013 12:44 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 22:35:14 -0400,
  Frank McCormick bea...@videotron.ca wrote:
I was updating Fedora 19 tonight when my system crashed ( I suspect 
it's a memory error)but anyway it
now **appears I have a lot of duplicate files on my system, at least 
that what yum check all reports.
The crash happened after the updates had been installed I think 
during the verify stage.


Have you tried yum-complete-transaction? That will probably work.
You can check things afterwords with package-cleanup --dupes and 
package-cleanup --problems.





Complete-transaction reported it could not finish and ended up 
marking the transaction files as invalid.
It was then I took another users suggestion and ran package-cleanup 
--dupes. That's what left my partition in

a partially unbootable state.
Now I am stumped..it appears only a re-installation would work

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Re: Big problem with an update

2013-05-25 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Sat, 25 May 2013 10:27:20 -0400 Frank McCormick
bea...@videotron.ca wrote:

 On 05/25/2013 12:44 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
  On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 22:35:14 -0400,
Frank McCormick bea...@videotron.ca wrote:
  I was updating Fedora 19 tonight when my system crashed ( I suspect 
  it's a memory error)but anyway it
  now **appears I have a lot of duplicate files on my system, at least 
  that what yum check all reports.
  The crash happened after the updates had been installed I think 
  during the verify stage.
 
  Have you tried yum-complete-transaction? That will probably work.
  You can check things afterwords with package-cleanup --dupes and 
  package-cleanup --problems.
 
 
 
  Complete-transaction reported it could not finish and ended up 
 marking the transaction files as invalid.
 It was then I took another users suggestion and ran package-cleanup 
 --dupes. That's what left my partition in
 a partially unbootable state.
 Now I am stumped..it appears only a re-installation would work
 

Hi,

Not sure if you can boot the machine, but if you are booted into it,
did you try to clean out your cache, etc? 

sudo yum clean all

Does it allow you to do that?

Not sure if this will help.

Ranjan


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Re: Big problem with an update

2013-05-25 Thread Frank McCormick

On 05/25/2013 10:34 AM, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

On Sat, 25 May 2013 10:27:20 -0400 Frank McCormick
bea...@videotron.ca wrote:


On 05/25/2013 12:44 AM, Bruno Wolff III wrote:

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 22:35:14 -0400,
   Frank McCormick bea...@videotron.ca wrote:

I was updating Fedora 19 tonight when my system crashed ( I suspect
it's a memory error)but anyway it
now **appears I have a lot of duplicate files on my system, at least
that what yum check all reports.
The crash happened after the updates had been installed I think
during the verify stage.

Have you tried yum-complete-transaction? That will probably work.
You can check things afterwords with package-cleanup --dupes and
package-cleanup --problems.



  Complete-transaction reported it could not finish and ended up
marking the transaction files as invalid.
It was then I took another users suggestion and ran package-cleanup
--dupes. That's what left my partition in
a partially unbootable state.
Now I am stumped..it appears only a re-installation would work


Hi,

Not sure if you can boot the machine, but if you are booted into it,
did you try to clean out your cache, etc?

sudo yum clean all





The partition only boots to a sh-42 prompt - it appears some system 
files are

missing after package cleanup.

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Re: Dual screen video display problem

2013-05-25 Thread ergodic
I have a similar problem.  In previous Fedoras it was possible to select
the monitor to be used during booting or display the booting screen in 
both monitors.

It looks that the distro is becoming less flexible or much harder to configure.

- Original Message -
Hello,

I have had a video display issue after an update a few months ago.  I
cannot post from work due to mail filters so I am posting from another
account so responses will be slower.

Fedora 18, 64bit, clean install using nvidia graphics with Nouveau using
KDE.  Both monitors are the same make and model.  Purchased at the same
time.

Before the problem occurred, I would boot and get all messages on the
left screen until the X server started.  If the screen saver locked the
screen, the unlock dialog box would be on the left screen (screen 0).  I
could run KDE with effects enabled.  The first indication of a problem
was the reboot after the kernel upgrade and error messages about the KDE
desktop effects not being able to run.

Due to work schedule, I couldn't deal with the problem before now.

Now, when I boot, the left display shows the BIOS boot and then the
displays enter mirror mode.  When the X server kicks in and KDE starts,
the display goes to side by side as expected.  The desktop works as side
by side when I can drag windows between the monitors and virtual
desktops as expected, just slower.

I cannot run any of the KDE desktop effects.

When the screen saver kicks in, it is a different screen savers on
each monitor, not one across both.  Previously it was one screen saver
across both monitors.  Using the Galaxy screen saver, the star movements
would go between the screens.  Now there are two different galaxy scenes
and motions.

If I move the trackball, I get a unlock dialog box on both screens but
they are not mirrored.  If I enter a password in to either dialog box,
the desktop unlocks.

I cannot use anything that requires a full screen such as You Tube
videos in a browser or any game.

I have gone through the settings in Grub and tried different desktop
settings.  Nothing I can find on the net has pointed me in the right
direction on this matter.

This setup has worked flawlessly for two years now and worked well until
the update.

Due to this issue, the system runs slower when moving between screens or
virtual desktops.  Lack of full screen is a pain for some things.  No
Tux Extreme racer unless I want mirrored action.

I have tried changing the GRUB_GFXMODE= with no success.

Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3840 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
DVI-I-1 connected primary 1920x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x
axis y axis) 531mm x 298mm
1920x1080  60.0*+
1680x1050  59.9
1600x900   60.0
1280x1024  60.0
1280x960   60.0
1280x800   59.9
1280x720   60.0
1024x768   60.0
1024x576   60.0
800x60060.3
640x48060.0
DVI-I-2 connected 1920x1080+1920+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
axis) 531mm x 298mm
1920x1080  60.0*+
1680x1050  59.9
1600x900   60.0
1280x1024  60.0
1280x960   60.0
1280x800   59.9
1280x720   60.0
1024x768   60.0
1024x576   60.0
800x60060.3
640x48060.0

I hope someone can point me in the right direction to get operation back
to normal.
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Weird network problem

2013-05-25 Thread Phil Dobbin
Hi, all.

I've got several machines on a LAN behind a NAT with DHCP assigning
always the same addresses from a dynamic IP.

A couple of days ago the IP changed  since then, one of the machines
running Fedora 17 always fails first time to connect to the network:
launch Thunderbird, no start screen, first attempt to check mail, it
tells me that there's no network connection, second attempt it connects.

The scheduled DejaDup backup always fails with no network but will run
manually no problem. Firefox can't find Google but the Nagios
web interface is fine as is all the cli stuff (ping, ssh, etc).

Most annoyingly, yum update goes through every mirror before partially
downloading part of the updates  if the updates are large, it takes
about three attempts to get them all installed.

I'd like to clear this up naturally especially as in the next couple of
weeks I'll be upgrading this box to Fedora 18  the last thing I need is
a dodgy network connection.

All the machines below are on the same LAN  they all work fine after
the IP address change, it's only the Fedora box that's causing problems.

Any help appreciated. I'm stuck.

Cheers,

  Phil...

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Re: Weird network problem

2013-05-25 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/25/2013 06:00 PM, Phil Dobbin wrote:

I've got several machines on a LAN behind a NAT with DHCP assigning
always the same addresses from a dynamic IP.

A couple of days ago the IP changed  since then, one of the machines
running Fedora 17 always fails first time to connect to the network:
launch Thunderbird, no start screen, first attempt to check mail, it
tells me that there's no network connection, second attempt it connects.


As long as it always gets the same IP address, why don't you just set it 
manually?

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f17 no internet after power failure, power restored

2013-05-25 Thread jackson byers
f17 no internet after power failure, power restored

{my wife's imac does have internet access.)

$ uname -r
3.8.12-100.fc17.i686.PAE
trying with chrome:
Quote:
The server's security certificate is not yet valid!
You attempted to reach www.google.com, but the server presented a
certificate that is not yet valid. No information is available to indicate
whether that certificate can be trusted. Google Chrome cannot reliably
guarantee that you are communicating with www.google.com and not an
attacker. Your computer's clock is currently set to Wednesday, May 25, 2011
10:10:15 AM. Does that look right? If not, you should correct your system's
clock and then refresh this page.
You cannot proceed because the website operator has requested heightened
security for this domain.
endquote


Then I saw, indeed the date on the time panel was
Wednesday, May 25, 2011
not
Saturday   may 25, 2013

FYI: this f17 is result of several preupgrades over last few years
f12, f14, f16, f17

so maybe a lot of cruft has accumulated?

I am not sure, but I think I would have noticed a date change this
drastic, so I assume it was somehow caused by the power failure.

After lot of futzing around using my wife's imac
I found some instructions on the internet on how to change time, date.

and once I got the date correct, I could then again access internet.

as root:
# date +%D -s 2013-05-25

But oddly, if I then try to also change the time.
# date +%T -s 16:22:00 -u
this modifies the time but it is still way off,
and worse:
the date reverts back to the 2011 as above.!?

So i redo the date, and
again my f17 has internet, but a way off time clock.

advice, comments?

Jack
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Re: f17 no internet after power failure, power restored

2013-05-25 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 25 May 2013, jackson byers sent:
 I am not sure, but I think I would have noticed a date change this
 drastic, so I assume it was somehow caused by the power failure.

Most likely.  Either the power failed in a bad way, upsetting the
hardware in your computer along the way, or your CMOS battery may be
running low, and this failure happened coincidentally.

If you often leave your computer switched off for many hours and your
clock is fine, then the battery is probably okay.

 After lot of futzing around using my wife's imac
 I found some instructions on the internet on how to change time, date.
 
 and once I got the date correct, I could then again access internet.
 
 as root:
 # date +%D -s 2013-05-25

Unless you're running a CLI-only system, it seems like you've gone to an
awful amount of trouble to set the time and date, instead of just using
the system settings GUI that lets you set the clock.

 But oddly, if I then try to also change the time.
 # date +%T -s 16:22:00 -u
 this modifies the time but it is still way off,
 and worse:
 the date reverts back to the 2011 as above.!?
 
 So i redo the date, and
 again my f17 has internet, but a way off time clock.

The first thing that springs to mind is that you shouldn't have to
manually set the clock, I thought that Fedora set its clock from a time
server, by default, these days.

And the second thing that springs to mind regards the clock being way
off from what you expect:  Have you correctly set your computer's
timezone?  And since you've specified that you set the clock to UTC with
the -u flag, was 16:22 the actual UTC time at the time you set the
clock?

But personally, I'd just use the system settings GUI for the clock, pick
the timezone, and let the computer manage the clock setting for me over
the internet.  I dare say that just about all public NTP servers are
going to be more accurate than manually setting the time, and it
automatically takes care of any time errors that crop up from time to
time.

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