Re: No EDID for VGA

2013-08-09 Thread poma
On 08.08.2013 17:46, Jon Cosby wrote:
 I installed a GeForce 8400 GS graphics card to replace an integrated
 chipset and can't even boot to the live CD (F18) or rescue mode now. It
 stops with the output
 
 Raw EDID
 [rows of hex digits all 0]
 Nouveau EI [ DRM] DDC responded, but no EDID for VGA-1
 
 I have openSUSE installed on this machine, and it runs with no problems.
 The monitor is an old KDS 17 CRT. Is there any way to get this working?
 
 
 
 Jon Cosby

HDD/F19?

$ modinfo drm_kms_helper | grep edid
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt


poma

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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 09.08.2013, David wrote: 

 Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular
 Fedora Community users', sucjh as you, and not for myself? And that I
 was asking because so many other Linux distributions already have them.
 I already have the latest releases.

Updates usually doesn't only fix problems and bring on new features,
they introduce new bugs, too. Keep cool for some days, and the stuff
will be available in the -stable repos :-)

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Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Georgios Petasis

Hi all,

In my apache configuration, I am using a scripting language (tcl through 
apache rivet) which implements a heavy application, something that 
takes some minutes to start when apache starts a new process.


Is there a way to separate these heavy apache processes from the 
rest of the apache?


I.e. when the url is /my_heavy_service redirect the request to the 
apache which has the heavy application loaded, and the rest of the 
requests be handled by an apache with does not even has mod_rivet loaded?


Like starting an apache on a different port (i.e. 8123), which loads my 
application, and starting a normal apache on port 80, which serves all 
requests except some, which are directed to the server in port 8123.


In general I think it can be done (i.e.: 
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances),
but is a way to do this in fedora 19, and keep all this systemctl * 
httpd stuff?


Has anyone attempted this?

George
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nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

I reinstall a fedora 19 and I am experiencing troubles with the graphics
apparently.
With the previous installation fedora 14. I had to install:
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
nvidia-settings
nvidia-xconfig
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs
and run:
nvidia-xconfig

Should I do the same again?

Thank.

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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:20:11 +0200
Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 I reinstall a fedora 19 and I am experiencing troubles with the
 graphics apparently.
 With the previous installation fedora 14. I had to install:
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
 nvidia-settings
 nvidia-xconfig
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs
 and run:
 nvidia-xconfig
 
 Should I do the same again?

Most probably, the only thing you need to install is the kmod-nvidia
package from rpmfusion repo. It will pull in everything else you need.
I never needed to run nvidia-xconfig or similar utilities, and I don't
trust them to do a proper configuration.

If you need to change resolution away from the optimal one (whatever
reason be for wanting that), I suggest that you use xrandr. It is
by far the most proper way to configure the display. You may want to
familiarize yourself with man xrandr.

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Marko Vojinovic
 Sent: 08/09/13 10:32 AM
 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: nvidia on inspiron
 
 On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:20:11 +0200
 Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
  I reinstall a fedora 19 and I am experiencing troubles with the
  graphics apparently.
  With the previous installation fedora 14. I had to install:
  xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
  nvidia-settings
  nvidia-xconfig
  xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs
  and run:
  nvidia-xconfig
  
  Should I do the same again?
 
 Most probably, the only thing you need to install is the kmod-nvidia
 package from rpmfusion repo. It will pull in everything else you need.
 I never needed to run nvidia-xconfig or similar utilities, and I don't
 trust them to do a proper configuration.
 
 If you need to change resolution away from the optimal one (whatever
 reason be for wanting that), I suggest that you use xrandr. It is
 by far the most proper way to configure the display. You may want to
 familiarize yourself with man xrandr.
 
 HTH, :-)
 Marko
 
OK,
Thank

Now
yum install kmod-nvidia
gives:
Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
    1:kmod-nvidia-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
    1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from 
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
    1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-319.32-7.fc19.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
    1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-319.32-7.fc19.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates

It seems that there are some confusion with kmod-nvidia
Which one?


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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread John Pilkington

On 09/08/13 09:43, Patrick Dupre wrote:




- Original Message -
From: Marko Vojinovic
Sent: 08/09/13 10:32 AM
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: nvidia on inspiron

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:20:11 +0200
Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:

I reinstall a fedora 19 and I am experiencing troubles with the
graphics apparently.
With the previous installation fedora 14. I had to install:
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
nvidia-settings
nvidia-xconfig
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs
and run:
nvidia-xconfig

Should I do the same again?


Most probably, the only thing you need to install is the kmod-nvidia
package from rpmfusion repo. It will pull in everything else you need.
I never needed to run nvidia-xconfig or similar utilities, and I don't
trust them to do a proper configuration.

If you need to change resolution away from the optimal one (whatever
reason be for wanting that), I suggest that you use xrandr. It is
by far the most proper way to configure the display. You may want to
familiarize yourself with man xrandr.

HTH, :-)
Marko


OK,
Thank

Now
yum install kmod-nvidia
gives:
Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
 1:kmod-nvidia-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
 1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from 
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
 1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-319.32-7.fc19.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
 1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-319.32-7.fc19.i686 from 
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates

It seems that there are some confusion with kmod-nvidia
Which one?


I suspect that the answer may be 'none of the above' for your machine. 
They are probably for more recent hardware.


http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html



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Re: Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
9.8.2013 11.05 Georgios Petasis petas...@yahoo.gr wrote:

 In general I think it can be done (i.e.:
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances),
 but is a way to do this in fedora 19, and keep all this systemctl *
httpd stuff?

I have not attempted it, but I think it should be possible. You would just
write a new systemd unit that'd start Apache so that it would read its
configuration files from a different location. Then you could carefully
create the alternative configuration so that the Apache instances do not
interfere with each other.

- Joonas
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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello,

After:
 yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia

The display fails, here is the file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[   161.317] 
X.Org X Server 1.14.2
Release Date: 2013-06-25
[   161.317] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[   161.317] Build Operating System:  2.6.32-358.14.1.el6.x86_64 
[   161.318] Current Operating System: Linux sophocle 3.10.4-300.fc19.i686.PAE 
#1 SMP Tue Jul 30 11:53:30 UTC 2013 i686
[   161.318] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.10.4-300.fc19.i686.PAE 
root=/dev/mapper/VolGrpSys2-root ro vconsole.keymap=fr rd.dm=0 rd.md=0 
rd.luks=0 vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16 rd.lvm.lv=VolGrpSys2/root 
nouveau.modeset=0 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau video=vesa:off
[   161.318] Build Date: 30 July 2013  06:25:54AM
[   161.318] Build ID: xorg-x11-server 1.14.2-9.fc19 
[   161.318] Current version of pixman: 0.30.0
[   161.318] Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
 to make sure that you have the latest version.
[   161.319] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
 (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
 (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   161.319] (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Aug  9 11:29:47 
2013
[   161.320] (==) Using config file: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[   161.320] (==) Using config directory: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d
[   161.320] (==) Using system config directory /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d
[   161.320] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[   161.320] (==) No screen section available. Using defaults.
[   161.320] (**) |--Screen Default Screen Section (0)
[   161.320] (**) |   |--Monitor default monitor
[   161.321] (==) No device specified for screen Default Screen Section.
 Using the first device section listed.
[   161.321] (**) |   |--Device Videocard0
[   161.321] (==) No monitor specified for screen Default Screen Section.
 Using a default monitor configuration.
[   161.321] (==) Automatically adding devices
[   161.321] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[   161.321] (==) Automatically adding GPU devices
[   161.321] (==) FontPath set to:
 catalogue:/etc/X11/fontpath.d,
 built-ins
[   161.321] (**) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/nvidia/xorg,/usr/lib/xorg/modules
[   161.321] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input 
devices.
 If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable AutoAddDevices.
[   161.321] (II) Loader magic: 0x82636a0
[   161.321] (II) Module ABI versions:
[   161.321] X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[   161.321] X.Org Video Driver: 14.1
[   161.321] X.Org XInput driver : 19.2
[   161.321] X.Org Server Extension : 7.0
[   161.322] (II) xfree86: Adding drm device (/dev/dri/card0)
[   161.324] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:7145:1028:2002 rev 0, Mem @ 
0xd000/268435456, 0xefdf/65536, I/O @ 0xee00/256, BIOS @ 
0x/131072
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension XINERAMA
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension XFIXES
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[   161.325] Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension RECORD
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension DPMS
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension X-Resource
[   161.326] Initializing built-in extension XVideo
[   161.328] Initializing built-in extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[   161.330] Initializing built-in extension SELinux
[   161.332] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[   161.334] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DGA
[   161.336] Initializing built-in extension XFree86-DRI
[   161.338] Initializing built-in extension DRI2
[   161.338] (II) glx will be loaded by default.
[   161.338] (II) LoadModule: dri2
[   161.338] (II) Module dri2 already built-in
[   161.338] (II) LoadModule: glamoregl
[   161.339] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libglamoregl.so
[   161.363] (II) Module glamoregl: vendor=X.Org Foundation
[   161.363] compiled for 1.14.0, module version = 0.5.0
[   161.363] ABI class: X.Org ANSI C Emulation, version 0.4
[   161.363] (II) LoadModule: glx
[   161.363] (II) Loading /usr/lib/nvidia/xorg/libglx.so
[   161.396] (II) Module glx: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
[   161.396] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[   161.396] Module 

Fedora 19 + httpd + chroots

2013-08-09 Thread jmaclean

Hi guys,

What's the status of running apache under chroots these days? For 
instance, is this guide relevant or accurate 
http://www.linux-faqs.info/apache/running-apache-in-chroot-jail ?


Thanks


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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread John Pilkington

On 09/08/13 10:49, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

After:
  yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia

The display fails, here is the file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[   161.317]


snip


[   161.396] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  319.32  Wed Jun 19 14:13:45 PDT 2013
[   161.398] Loading extension GLX
[   161.398] (II) LoadModule: nvidia
[   161.398] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[   161.403] (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
[   161.403] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[   161.403] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   161.414] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check 
your
[   161.414] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error messages.
[   161.414] (II) UnloadModule: nvidia
[   161.414] (II) Unloading nvidia
[   161.415] (EE) Failed to load module nvidia (module-specific error, 0)
[   161.415] (EE) No drivers available.




What should I do?

thank.


Seek help on the rpmfusion list




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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread John Pilkington

On 09/08/13 11:22, John Pilkington wrote:

On 09/08/13 10:49, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Hello,

After:
  yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia

The display fails, here is the file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[   161.317]


snip


[   161.396] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module  319.32  Wed Jun 19 14:13:45 PDT 2013
[   161.398] Loading extension GLX
[   161.398] (II) LoadModule: nvidia
[   161.398] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
[   161.403] (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
[   161.403] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
[   161.403] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
[   161.414] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
Please check your
[   161.414] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error
messages.
[   161.414] (II) UnloadModule: nvidia
[   161.414] (II) Unloading nvidia
[   161.415] (EE) Failed to load module nvidia (module-specific
error, 0)
[   161.415] (EE) No drivers available.




What should I do?

thank.


Seek help on the rpmfusion list




But I still think you may need the 304.xx series: you haven't mentioned 
which GPU you have but google suggests 7900 gs


http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html

http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/19/i386/


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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:43:05 +0200
Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 Now
 yum install kmod-nvidia
 gives:
 Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
     1:kmod-nvidia-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
     1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from
 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates 1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-319.32-7.fc19.i686
 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
 1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-319.32-7.fc19.i686 from
 rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
 
 It seems that there are some confusion with kmod-nvidia
 Which one?

Please provide the full yum output. I cannot see what is wrong from the
snippet that you gave.

Also, keep in mind that there is a kmod-nvidia driver for the recent
nvidia graphics cards, then there is another kmod-nvidia-304xx driver
for the older cards, and finally there is a kmod-nvidia-173xx driver
for ancient cards.

It would be a good idea to figure out which hardware you actually have,

 lspci | grep VGA

and then install the appropriate driver. You have the details spelled
out here:

  http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia

(although I'd say that this howto is a tad bit outdated, but it's
still mostly correct).

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank John for the suggestion.

I am not sure to answer to your question.
My card ia an ATI Mobility, Radeon x1400 128 MB
I cannot find it in the nvidia list.

Is it too old?

By default, it installs:
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia                    i686    1:319.32-7.fc19
kmod-nvidia-3.9.9-302.fc19.i686.PAE    i686    1:319.32-1.fc19
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs               i686    1:319.32-7.fc19

I also found the following:

http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?t=287669


 - Original Message -
 From: John Pilkington
 Sent: 08/09/13 12:53 PM
 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: nvidia on inspiron
 
 On 09/08/13 11:22, John Pilkington wrote:
  On 09/08/13 10:49, Patrick Dupre wrote:
  Hello,
 
  After:
  yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
 
  The display fails, here is the file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
  [ 161.317]
 
  snip
 
  [ 161.396] (II) NVIDIA GLX Module 319.32 Wed Jun 19 14:13:45 PDT 2013
  [ 161.398] Loading extension GLX
  [ 161.398] (II) LoadModule: nvidia
  [ 161.398] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so
  [ 161.403] (II) Module nvidia: vendor=NVIDIA Corporation
  [ 161.403] compiled for 4.0.2, module version = 1.0.0
  [ 161.403] Module class: X.Org Video Driver
  [ 161.414] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module.
  Please check your
  [ 161.414] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error
  messages.
  [ 161.414] (II) UnloadModule: nvidia
  [ 161.414] (II) Unloading nvidia
  [ 161.415] (EE) Failed to load module nvidia (module-specific
  error, 0)
  [ 161.415] (EE) No drivers available.
 
 
  What should I do?
 
  thank.
 
  Seek help on the rpmfusion list
 
 
 But I still think you may need the 304.xx series: you haven't mentioned 
 which GPU you have but google suggests 7900 gs
 
 http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_32667.html
 
 http://download1.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/updates/19/i386/
 
 
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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Dupre


 - Original Message -
 From: Marko Vojinovic
 Sent: 08/09/13 01:10 PM
 To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
 Subject: Re: nvidia on inspiron
 
 On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:43:05 +0200
 Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
  Now
  yum install kmod-nvidia
  gives:
  Packages skipped because of dependency problems:
     1:kmod-nvidia-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
     1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686 from
  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates 1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-319.32-7.fc19.i686
  from rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
  1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs-319.32-7.fc19.i686 from
  rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
  
  It seems that there are some confusion with kmod-nvidia
  Which one?
 
 Please provide the full yum output. I cannot see what is wrong from the
 snippet that you gave.

yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia works fine and install:
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia                    i686    1:319.32-7.fc19
kmod-nvidia-3.9.9-302.fc19.i686.PAE    i686    1:319.32-1.fc19
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs               i686    1:319.32-7.fc19

while yum install kmod-nvidia

Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 will be installed
-- Processing Dependency: kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 = 1:319.32-2.fc19 
for package: 1:kmod-nvidia-319.32-2.fc19.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 will be 
installed
-- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 for package: 
1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686
-- Processing Dependency: nvidia-kmod-common = 1:319.32 for package: 
1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 will be 
installed
-- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 for package: 
1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686
--- Package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.i686 1:319.32-7.fc19 will be installed
-- Processing Dependency: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs(x86-32) = 1:319.32-7.fc19 
for package: 1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-319.32-7.fc19.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 will be 
installed
-- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 for package: 
1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686
--- Package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686 1:319.32-7.fc19 will be installed
-- Finished Dependency Resolution
Error: Package: 1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686 
(rpmfusion-nonfree-updates)
           Requires: kernel-uname-r = 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686
           Installed: kernel-PAE-3.9.9-302.fc19.i686 (@updates)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.9.9-302.fc19.i686.PAE
           Installed: kernel-PAE-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 (@updates)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686.PAE
           Installed: kernel-PAE-3.10.4-300.fc19.i686 (@updates)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.10.4-300.fc19.i686.PAE
           Available: kernel-PAE-3.9.5-301.fc19.i686 (fedora)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.9.5-301.fc19.i686.PAE
           Available: kernel-PAEdebug-3.9.5-301.fc19.i686 (fedora)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.9.5-301.fc19.i686.PAEdebug
           Available: kernel-PAEdebug-3.10.4-300.fc19.i686 (updates)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.10.4-300.fc19.i686.PAEdebug
           Available: kernel-debug-3.9.5-301.fc19.i686 (fedora)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.9.5-301.fc19.i686.debug
           Available: kernel-debug-3.10.4-300.fc19.i686 (updates)
               kernel-uname-r = 3.10.4-300.fc19.i686.debug
 You could try using --skip-broken to work around the problem

and 

yum install kmod-nvidia --skip-broken

Loaded plugins: langpacks, refresh-packagekit
Resolving Dependencies
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 will be installed
-- Processing Dependency: kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 = 1:319.32-2.fc19 
for package: 1:kmod-nvidia-319.32-2.fc19.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 will be 
installed
-- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 for package: 
1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686
-- Processing Dependency: nvidia-kmod-common = 1:319.32 for package: 
1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 will be 
installed
-- Processing Dependency: kernel-uname-r = 3.10.3-300.fc19.i686 for package: 
1:kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686-319.32-2.fc19.i686
--- Package xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.i686 1:319.32-7.fc19 will be installed
-- Processing Dependency: xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs(x86-32) = 1:319.32-7.fc19 
for package: 1:xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-319.32-7.fc19.i686
-- Running transaction check
--- Package kmod-nvidia-3.10.3-300.fc19.i686.i686 1:319.32-2.fc19 

Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/09/13 19:11, Patrick Dupre wrote:
 My card ia an ATI Mobility, Radeon x1400 128 MB

Ahhh.   A Radeon card is not nVidia



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Re: Change device/partition label

2013-08-09 Thread Mark Haney
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On 08/08/2013 03:59 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:

 What's the best and most current way to do it?  I was thinking
 e2label will do it, but it's been so long since I've done it, I'm
 playing it safe.
 
 Ideas?
 
 man e2label tune2fs -l /dev/whatever shows the UUID
 

That did it.  I was worried about whether e2label would accept a blank
label (using ), but that worked without problems.

Danke.


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Re: Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Zdenek Pytela
Georgios Petasis pise:
 Hi all,
 
 In my apache configuration, I am using a scripting language (tcl
 through apache rivet) which implements a heavy application,
 something that takes some minutes to start when apache starts a new
 process.
 
 Is there a way to separate these heavy apache processes from the
 rest of the apache?
 
 I.e. when the url is /my_heavy_service redirect the request to the
 apache which has the heavy application loaded, and the rest of the
 requests be handled by an apache with does not even has mod_rivet
 loaded?
 
 Like starting an apache on a different port (i.e. 8123), which loads
 my application, and starting a normal apache on port 80, which
 serves all requests except some, which are directed to the server in
 port 8123.
 
 In general I think it can be done (i.e.:
 http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances),
 but is a way to do this in fedora 19, and keep all this systemctl *
 httpd stuff?
 
 Has anyone attempted this?
Yes. You just have multiple Listen lines in your config file and
then you have to restart the httpd.service.

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libreswan on Feodra

2013-08-09 Thread Kevin Wilson
Hi,
I have installed libreswan 3.3-1 on fc18 from RPM.
How do I start the libreswan service on Fedora ?

I tried:
systemctl status libreswan.service
libreswan.service
   Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
   Active: inactive (dead)

regards,
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Re: libreswan on Feodra

2013-08-09 Thread Rami Rosen
Hello,

Try:
systemctl status ipsec.service

Rami Rosen
http://ramirose.wix.com/ramirosen

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Kevin Wilson wkev...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I have installed libreswan 3.3-1 on fc18 from RPM.
 How do I start the libreswan service on Fedora ?

 I tried:
 systemctl status libreswan.service
 libreswan.service
Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory)
Active: inactive (dead)

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Re: Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Joonas Sarajärvi
Hello,

2013/8/9 Zdenek Pytela pyt...@phil.muni.cz:
 Yes. You just have multiple Listen lines in your config file and
 then you have to restart the httpd.service.
I think the main goal was not just to get Apache to listen to multiple
ports, but to have two entirely separate Apache instances running, to
prevent a badly behaving web application from affecting the better
behaving ones. Of course this would likely also involve having them
listen to different ports.

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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 13:22:10 +0200
Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 yum install xorg-x11-drv-nvidia works fine and install:
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia                    i686    1:319.32-7.fc19
 kmod-nvidia-3.9.9-302.fc19.i686.PAE    i686    1:319.32-1.fc19
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs               i686    1:319.32-7.fc19
 
   lspci | grep VGA
 
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
 [AMD/ATI] RV515/M54 [Mobility Radeon X1400]

This is surreal! :-D

Ok, you should really do the following:

yum remove *-nvidia*
reboot

After that, go to 

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia

and read the very first paragraph of the article, nothing more. Just the
first paragraph. Or just the last two sentences of the first paragraph.
Or better yet, here, let me quote them to you:

begin quote
Nvidia and chief rival AMD Graphics Technologies (formerly ATI
Technologies) have dominated the high performance GPU market, pushing
other manufacturers to smaller, niche roles. Nvidia's primary GPU
product line labeled GeForce is in direct competition with AMD's
Radeon products.
end quote

The words rival and competition should suggest an important clue
here...

Moreover,

On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 10:20:11 +0200
Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:
 I reinstall a fedora 19 and I am experiencing troubles with the
 graphics apparently.
 With the previous installation fedora 14. I had to install:
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia
 nvidia-settings
 nvidia-xconfig
 xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs
 and run:
 nvidia-xconfig

I really really wonder how well that F14 installation worked, and who
gave you the advice to install those packages...

HTH, :-)
Marko

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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Joe Zeff

On 08/09/2013 11:14 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:

yum remove *-nvidia*


Correction: yum remove \*nvidia\*

Your way won't work because bash will expand the wildcards if you don't 
escape them.

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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
On 08/09/2013 01:34 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 Your way won't work because bash will expand the wildcards if you don't escape
 them.

Not necessarily, but that is good practice. Bash will pass wildcards along if
there are no matches in the string you type.
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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Hello Joe,

Thank.
Do not worry, I already removed the nvidia driver because it was not
working;
Concerning the F14 installation, after double checking, it had been updated
to fedora 16 and only
nvidia-xconfig-1.0-20.fc16.i686
nvidia-settings-1.0-22.fc16.i686
are installed. Thus I guess that it OK.

I have been oriented toward nvidia because a member of list suggested
to install these drivers because I was complaining about a frozen
laptop after a screen lock!

Anyway, thank you. but a wrong way of doing without bad consequences

Regards.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Zeff
 Sent: 08/09/13 08:34 PM
 To: Community support for Fedora users
 Subject: Re: nvidia on inspiron

 On 08/09/2013 11:14 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote:
  yum remove *-nvidia*

 Correction: yum remove \*nvidia\*

 Your way won't work because bash will expand the wildcards if you don't
 escape them.
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Re: nvidia on inspiron

2013-08-09 Thread Joe Zeff

On 08/09/2013 11:51 AM, Patrick Dupre wrote:

Thank.
Do not worry, I already removed the nvidia driver because it was not
working;
Concerning the F14 installation, after double checking, it had been updated
to fedora 16 and only
nvidia-xconfig-1.0-20.fc16.i686
nvidia-settings-1.0-22.fc16.i686
are installed. Thus I guess that it OK.


Great!  I'd just wanted to point out (what I consider) the best way to 
use wildcards with things like yum in case you had any difficulties.


And, I presume that you have Good Reasons to be working with F16, even 
though you know that it's past EOL.  You might want to join the 
fedoraforum at http://fedoraforum.org/ because they have a message board 
dedicated to older versions in case you need some version-specific 
information.  Hope all is doing well on your box now!

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Re: Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Georgios Petasis

Στις 9/8/2013 18:31, ο/η Reindl Harald έγραψε:


Am 09.08.2013 16:12, schrieb Zdenek Pytela:

Georgios Petasis pise:

In my apache configuration, I am using a scripting language (tcl
through apache rivet) which implements a heavy application,
something that takes some minutes to start when apache starts a new
process.

Is there a way to separate these heavy apache processes from the
rest of the apache?

I.e. when the url is /my_heavy_service redirect the request to the
apache which has the heavy application loaded, and the rest of the
requests be handled by an apache with does not even has mod_rivet
loaded?

Like starting an apache on a different port (i.e. 8123), which loads
my application, and starting a normal apache on port 80, which
serves all requests except some, which are directed to the server in
port 8123.

In general I think it can be done (i.e.:
http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances),
but is a way to do this in fedora 19, and keep all this systemctl *
httpd stuff?

Has anyone attempted this?

Yes. You just have multiple Listen lines in your config file and
then you have to restart the httpd.service

and how does this magically have a own, isolated httpd-instance
without mod_rivet whcih was the question

well i posted a answer with complete examples short
after the question but with this idiotic moderation
it is worthless

I think I have received your answer. After a few hours of looking into 
this, I have automated it (for my case) in the following bash script:


# Steps to create a second running instance of httpd...

# 1) Create the needed script for systemctrl...
/usr/bin/cp -f /usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd.service \
  /usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd-palo.service
sed -i 
s/EnvironmentFile=\/etc\/sysconfig\/httpd/EnvironmentFile=\/etc\/sysconfig\/httpd-palo/g 
/usr/lib/systemd/system/httpd-palo.service



# 2) Prepare the environment file...
/usr/bin/cp -f /etc/sysconfig/httpd /etc/sysconfig/httpd-palo

# 3) Append our options...
echo OPTIONS= -DPaloServices -f conf/httpd-palo.conf  
/etc/sysconfig/httpd-palo


# 4) Copy http.conf...
/usr/bin/cp -f /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-palo.conf
sed -i s/Listen 80/PidFile \/run\/httpd-palo\/httpd.pid\\nListen 81/g 
/etc/httpd/conf/httpd-palo.conf
sed -i 's/logs\/error_log/logs\/palo_error_log/g' 
/etc/httpd/conf/httpd-palo.conf

sed -i 's/conf\.d/palo_conf.d/g' /etc/httpd/conf/httpd-palo.conf

# 5) Create palo_conf.d...
mkdir -p /run/httpd-palo
rm -rf /etc/httpd/palo_conf.d
mkdir -p /etc/httpd/palo_conf.d
ln -s /etc/httpd/conf.d/my_palo.conf /etc/httpd/palo_conf.d/my_palo.conf
ln -s /etc/httpd/conf.d/my_rivet.conf /etc/httpd/palo_conf.d/my_rivet.conf
#ln -s /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf /etc/httpd/palo_conf.d/ssl.conf
chcon -R -u system_u -r object_r -t httpd_config_t 
/etc/httpd/palo_conf.d /etc/httpd/conf.d


systemctl --system daemon-reload

systemctl enable  httpd-palo.service
systemctl enable  httpd.service
systemctl restart httpd-palo.service
systemctl restart httpd.service

What it actually does is to copy everything from the httpd 
configuration, into a new one, named httpd-palo.
Which runs in port 81, and has its own config directory, in 
/etc/httpd/palo_conf.d. There, I create symbolic links from conf files 
in /etc/httpd/conf.d.


One of the configuration files is special (my_palo.conf), as it has 
two branches, according to whether the name PaloServices is defined:


IfDefine PaloServices
Alias /palo/appservices  /home/palo/opinionBuster/webapps_services
Alias /palo/app  /home/palo/opinionBuster/webapps
Alias /palo  /home/palo/opinionBuster/services

/ifDefine

IfDefine !PaloServices
LoadModule proxy_module  modules/mod_proxy.so
LoadModule proxy_http_module modules/mod_proxy_http.so
ProxyRequests Off
SSLProxyEngine on
ProxyPass/palo http://localhost:81/palo
ProxyPassReverse /palo http://localhost:81/palo
/IfDefine

I am ok with my solution, I now have two independent httpd server 
instances :-)


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Re: Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 09.08.2013 10:03, Georgios Petasis wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 In my apache configuration, I am using a scripting language (tcl through
 apache rivet) which implements a heavy application, something that
 takes some minutes to start when apache starts a new process.
 
 Is there a way to separate these heavy apache processes from the
 rest of the apache?
 
 I.e. when the url is /my_heavy_service redirect the request to the
 apache which has the heavy application loaded, and the rest of the
 requests be handled by an apache with does not even has mod_rivet loaded?
 
 Like starting an apache on a different port (i.e. 8123), which loads my
 application, and starting a normal apache on port 80, which serves all
 requests except some, which are directed to the server in port 8123.
 
 In general I think it can be done (i.e.:
 http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances),
 but is a way to do this in fedora 19, and keep all this systemctl *
 httpd stuff?
 
 Has anyone attempted this?
 
 George

It looks like you're in need of proxy server. I'm doing nginx + apache2
+ mod_wsgi for django deployments. Nginx is serving static files and
apache2 + mod_wsgi is serving apps. This is really nice and simple
solution. It is easy to maintain and when I do ps command I know what
is what.


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Re: LibreOffice find/replace tries to replace everything where it matches or not

2013-08-09 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 08.08.2013 22:16, Temlakos wrote:
 Everyone:
 
 It's taken me this long to realize what the problem is. But I cannot use
 Find-and-replace with LibreOffice anymore. It either tries to replace
 everything under the sun with my Replace text, or else it can't find the
 search key (typically a multi-word phrase) even though I am staring
 right at it.
 
 Where do I file the bug, and against what?
 
 

How to Report Bugs in LibreOffice:
- https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport

Bugzilla
- https://www.libreoffice.org/bugzilla/


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Re: sms reader / email client?

2013-08-09 Thread Mateusz Marzantowicz
On 08.08.2013 01:37, Ian Malone wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Having just changed my phone I've got a lot of backed up messages in
 csv format (without the sender name, so I'm going to have to reconcile
 it with the separate contacts backup). While there are ways to get tem
 onto my new phone I'm not really sure I want them there, but some are
 useful and need to be kept. What I'm wondering is if there's some kind
 of desktop reader that can handle this. I'd have thought an email
 client, or groupware like evolution would have a way to handle SMS,
 but haven't found anything so far (there are addons for *sending*, but
 not sure they do what I want, which is ability to sort, search and
 browse received messages).
 

Since csv is plain text with separators you can use any text editor or
other text manipulation program from plethora of tools available in
UNIX/Linux world - cat, less, grep for example.

It might not be easy for e-mail client to understand all combinations of
exported data from different mobile devices. This might be the reason
you have your data in csv (plain text) and not in proprietary backup
file format.


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Re: Change device/partition label

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 08.08.2013 21:52, schrieb Mark Haney:
 I know this is an easy one, but I can't seem to find the current
 correct way to do it.  I've got a TB HDD that I need to change the
 LABEL on.  Currently it's 'LIVE' (it's an old production drive) and I
 really want to just remove the label altogether and mount it with the
 UUID of the drive.
 
 What's the best and most current way to do it?  I was thinking e2label
 will do it, but it's been so long since I've done it, I'm playing it
 safe.
 
 Ideas?

man e2label
tune2fs -l /dev/whatever shows the UUID



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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David:
 Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and Thunderbird
 17.08?

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q firefox
firefox-23.0-1.fc18.x86_64

[harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner
xulrunner-23.0-2.fc18.x86_64

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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 08.08.2013 21:34, schrieb David:
 On 8/8/2013 2:50 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 Am 08.08.2013 20:48, schrieb David:
 Does anyone have any idea when we can expect Firefox 23 and
 Thunderbird 17.08?
 
 [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q thunderbird
 thunderbird-17.0.8-1.fc18.x86_64
 
 [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q firefox firefox-23.0-1.fc18.x86_64
 
 [harry@srv-rhsoft:~]$ rpm -q xulrunner
 xulrunner-23.0-2.fc18.x86_64
 
 koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/builds?tagID=204inherited=0order=-completion_time
 
 Thanks. I was thinking more about the 'regular user' that does not
 know about the need to jump through hoops with Linux from time to time

* patience
* koji
* yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\*

choose one of them :-)

the 'regular user' implicitly chooses option 1



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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 08.08.2013 21:50, schrieb David:
 On 8/8/2013 3:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 * patience * koji * yum --enablerepo=updates-testing update 
 firefox\* xulrunner\* thunderbird\*
 
 choose one of them :-)
 
 the 'regular user' implicitly chooses option 1
 
 True. But they are not yet 'official' in my Rawhide install either. I
 have them in several other Linux installs (other distributions) since
 Tuesday as a matter of fact.
 
 I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora

mostly bad timing
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325




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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 08.08.2013 22:56, schrieb David:
 On 8/8/2013 4:39 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 
 Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David:
 On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora

 mostly bad timing 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325

 Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with
 each official Mozilla release.

 I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly,
 Alphas and Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more
 quickly
 
 and you would be probably one of the first starting to cry loud if
 things are broken after untested updates.
 
 and broken oftly differs between usecases
 
 for me the iditoic chnages to remove options and show the damned
 tabs *always* even if there is only one and even if your web-app
 opens a popupd and explicitly requests *no bars, no bullshit, only
 a window* is broken but i can live with it
 
 You must have missed the part in this thread where I wrote that I have
 been using the Mozilla Firefox and Thunderbird version long before?

long before* is laughable in case of FF23

 One expects those to break from time to time. And you must have
 missed, again in this thread, where I wrote that I had offical Firefox
 and Thunderbird updates on Tuesday Aug 6?

and now it is thursday
so what is your exactly problem?

are you taken repsonsibility that extensions installed with
yum are not broken after a new version? if they need a update
do you take responsibility for coordinate FF/TB/XULrunner/Extensions
packaging, testing and rollout?

no? so what...

 As for the other things that you dislike? Those have been active for
 months in the pre-releases and writen about for the same time.
 There have been several articles about how to change those items too

blabla - the options for hide the tab-bar are there in about:config
but it does not change anything - i am using Firefox since it even
had not the name Firefox and was known as Firebird



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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 08.08.2013 22:34, schrieb David:
 On 8/8/2013 4:26 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 I was wondering if there was some problem here with Fedora
 
 mostly bad timing 
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=977325
 
 Not to insult anyone but... This same situation happens with each
 official Mozilla release.
 
 I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
 Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly

and you would be probably one of the first starting to cry
loud if things are broken after untested updates.

and broken oftly differs between usecases

for me the iditoic chnages to remove options and show
the damned tabs *always* even if there is only one and
even if your web-app opens a popupd and explicitly
requests *no bars, no bullshit, only a window* is broken
but i can live with it



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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 08.08.2013 23:04, schrieb David:
 On 8/8/2013 4:47 PM, Joe Zeff wrote:
 On 08/08/2013 01:34 PM, David wrote:
 I can certainly agree with not following the Daily/Nightly, Alphas and
 Betas but the official(s) IMHO should arrive more quickly.

 The people doing the packaging and testing aren't exactly getting paid
 for their work.  If you want the new releases available sooner, there's
 nothing stopping you from helping out.
 
 Joe did you not read where I said that I was asking for the 'regular
 Fedora Community users'

no, you did only make noise, not more and not less

updates are released after they gone thorugh updates-testing
period

if whatever distribution fires them out without - their problem
period

so *what* is the problem you think you solved by impatience?





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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 08.08.2013 23:12, schrieb David:
 I can not say anything about extensions installed with yum. I use
 the official extensions from Mozilla. And they work regardless what
 Fedora does.

well, so don't complainif you can't say anything

 long before* is laughable in case of FF23
 I was using Firefox 23 when it was a Daily
 Is that long before where you live

who cares in context of the official release?

these are *completly* different binaries with
completly different shared libraries and a
different compiler, they have *nothing* common
with distribution packages

 I asked a question. Is that *not* what this list if for.
 Asking questions.

but you refused the answers and started to argue with snapshot-builds
and whatever - so no you are not helping much with your hurry
two days after the release, the people who care have it already
and the others have no problem actually

 One thing it appears that I did do was to pi$$ you off.
 Byr. Please go argue with yourself

the only thing which is pissing me off is when people
refuse to understand well suited explanations



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Re: Firefox and Thunderbird Aug releases

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 08.08.2013 23:41, schrieb David:
 On 8/8/2013 5:33 PM, Reindl Harald wrote:
 who cares in context of the official release?
 
 these are *completly* different binaries with completly different
 shared libraries and a different compiler, they have *nothing*
 common with distribution packages
 
 The Linux Firefox 23 that was released by Mozilla on Tuesday works
 just fine with the official Firefox extension that come from Mozilla.
 *If* the is a problem with the rpm that Fedora provides/// Sounds like
 a fedora problem to me.

*nobody* said there is a problem
*because* nobody knows before testing

if you think if it compiles it works is they way to go
you never where responsilbe for any IT exepct your private
ones - the packager for a distribution is in doubt responsible
for the userbase and a untested, broken update levaes a bad
taste in the mouth of users which rely that auto-updates
are working and not only untested crap

 I have already gotten a perfectly good explanation. That the release
 is still in update-testing. While other distro have already released
 it to the public. I have to much respect to post names but there are
 three well known names that I currently have installed that do

one of the three i guess is Ubuntu, a piece of crap in my opinion
but hey, if it is your favor why not using it?




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Re: Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald

Am 09.08.2013 10:03, schrieb Georgios Petasis:
 In my apache configuration, I am using a scripting language (tcl through 
 apache rivet) which implements a heavy
 application, something that takes some minutes to start when apache starts a 
 new process.
 
 Is there a way to separate these heavy apache processes from the rest of 
 the apache?
 
 I.e. when the url is /my_heavy_service redirect the request to the apache 
 which has the heavy application
 loaded, and the rest of the requests be handled by an apache with does not 
 even has mod_rivet loaded?
 
 Like starting an apache on a different port (i.e. 8123), which loads my 
 application, and starting a normal apache
 on port 80, which serves all requests except some, which are directed to the 
 server in port 8123.
 
 In general I think it can be done (i.e.: 
 http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances),
 but is a way to do this in fedora 19, and keep all this systemctl * httpd 
 stuff?
 
 Has anyone attempted this?

nothing easier than that, you start httpd with a specific httpd.conf
the sample below needs some LoadModule in your case because our httpd
has statically builtin the used modules since we do not use standard
packages for business critical services

but they way to go is easy:

* your own systemd-unit
* your own httpd.conf
* your own php.ini
* if you want different php-extensions your own php.d
* for make it accesable read from a frontend-server read the mod_proxy manual

PHP_INI_SCAN_DIR=/Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf/php.d
PHPIniDir /Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf
__

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/systemd/system/httpd-lounge-worker.service
[Unit]
Description=HTTP-Worker

[Service]
Type=simple
EnvironmentFile=/Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf/systemd-env
ExecStart=/usr/sbin/httpd $OPTIONS -D FOREGROUND -f 
/Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf/httpd.conf
ExecReload=/usr/bin/kill -HUP $MAINPID
Restart=always
RestartSec=1
UMask=006
PrivateTmp=yes
ReadOnlyDirectories=/etc
ReadOnlyDirectories=/usr

[Install]
WantedBy=multi-user.target
__

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf/systemd-env
PHP_INI_SCAN_DIR=/Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf/php.d
OPENSSL_NO_DEFAULT_ZLIB=1
STOP_TIMEOUT=5
LANG=C
__

[root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf/httpd.conf
ServerName  localhost
ServerTokens Prod
ServerRoot   /etc/httpd
PHPIniDir   /Volumes/dune/httpd-worker/conf
PidFile /run/httpd/httpd-worker.pid
Timeout30
KeepAlive Off
MaxKeepAliveRequests   50
KeepAliveTimeout2
User   apache
Group  apache
ServerAdminhostmas...@thelounge.net
UseCanonicalName  Off
HostnameLookups   Off
ServerSignature   Off
Listen 127.0.0.1:
TypesConfig /etc/mime.types
AccessFileName  .htaccess
DirectoryIndex  index.php
EnableSendFile On
SendBufferSize  65536
AcceptPathInfoOff
TraceEnable   Off
LimitRequestFields 50
LimitRequestFieldSize   1
LimitRequestBody 52428800
LimitInternalRecursion  5
FileETag   -INode
BufferedLogs   On
RequestReadTimeout  header=5-15,MinRate=500

StartServers1
MinSpareServers 1
MaxSpareServers 4
ServerLimit50
MaxClients 45
ListenBacklog 250
MaxRequestsPerChild  

Re: How do I start libvirt in Fedora 19?

2013-08-09 Thread Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)

On 08/08/2013 09:53, Paul W. Frields wrote:

On Wed, Aug 07, 2013 at 10:45:27PM +0800, Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming 
(Zhang Enming) wrote:

Hi,

I have just installed virt-manager in Fedora 19. I have looked into
the /etc/init.d directory but I can't find any init scripts for
libvirt.

Is libvirt using systemd, and if so, how do I start it?

Thank you very much.

It is, and should be enabled by default so it starts automatically at
next reboot.  To start (as root):

systemctl start libvirtd.service


Dear Paul,

Problem solved.

Thank you very much for your reply.

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Where is the iptables firewall configuration file in Fedora 19?

2013-08-09 Thread Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)

It's no longer in /etc/sysconfig/iptables.

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Re: Can I run two instances of apache httpd?

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 09.08.2013 16:12, schrieb Zdenek Pytela:
 Georgios Petasis pise:
 In my apache configuration, I am using a scripting language (tcl
 through apache rivet) which implements a heavy application,
 something that takes some minutes to start when apache starts a new
 process.

 Is there a way to separate these heavy apache processes from the
 rest of the apache?

 I.e. when the url is /my_heavy_service redirect the request to the
 apache which has the heavy application loaded, and the rest of the
 requests be handled by an apache with does not even has mod_rivet
 loaded?

 Like starting an apache on a different port (i.e. 8123), which loads
 my application, and starting a normal apache on port 80, which
 serves all requests except some, which are directed to the server in
 port 8123.

 In general I think it can be done (i.e.:
 http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/RunningMultipleApacheInstances),
 but is a way to do this in fedora 19, and keep all this systemctl *
 httpd stuff?

 Has anyone attempted this?
 Yes. You just have multiple Listen lines in your config file and
 then you have to restart the httpd.service

and how does this magically have a own, isolated httpd-instance
without mod_rivet whcih was the question

well i posted a answer with complete examples short
after the question but with this idiotic moderation
it is worthless



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Installing virt-manager in Fedora 19 did not create a network bridge

2013-08-09 Thread Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)

Hi,

When I installed virt-manager in Ubuntu, it created a network bridge 
called virbr0.


Now that I have installed virt-manager in Fedora 19, it did not create a 
network bridge.


So how do I create a network bridge? Is virt-manager supposed to create 
a network bridge?


I installed virt-manager using the following command.

sudo yum install virt-manager

Are there any more rpm packages which I am supposed to install?

Thank you very much.

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Re: Where is the iptables firewall configuration file in Fedora 19?

2013-08-09 Thread Carlos casep Sepulveda
On 9 August 2013 17:47, Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang
Enming) singapore.mr.teo.en.m...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's no longer in /etc/sysconfig/iptables.



Hi:
Mine are there...

[casep@ip36 ~]$ sudo cat /etc/sysconfig/iptables
# Firewall configuration written by system-config-firewall
# Manual customization of this file is not recommended.
..

Have you exec system-config-firewall ?

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Re: Where is the iptables firewall configuration file in Fedora 19?

2013-08-09 Thread Anthony Messina
On Saturday, August 10, 2013 05:47:57 AM Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming 
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 It's no longer in /etc/sysconfig/iptables.

Fedora 19 used FirewallD by default.  If you prefer to use the iptables 
initscripts, you need to install iptables-services and issue 'systemctl 
disable firewalld'.

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Re: Installing virt-manager in Fedora 19 did not create a network bridge

2013-08-09 Thread Anthony Messina
On Friday, August 09, 2013 10:56:16 PM Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming 
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 When I installed virt-manager in Ubuntu, it created a network bridge 
 called virbr0.

The bridge is created when you configure and start libvirtd.  -A

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Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Andras Simon
... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/

Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.

What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A different browser? I
don't believe I'm the only one who hates JS and only switches it on
for websites that absolutely require it.

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার Ananda Samaddar
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 01:34:24 +0200
Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:

 ... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/
 
 Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.
 
 What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A different browser? I
 don't believe I'm the only one who hates JS and only switches it on
 for websites that absolutely require it.
 
 Andras

Yes, I'd just use noscript.  It gives you much finer grained control
than a simple manual on/off option any way.

Ananda


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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Andre Robatino
Andras Simon szajmi at gmail.com writes:

 ... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/
 
 Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.

Under about:config , set javascript.enabled to false .



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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Andras Simon
2013/8/10, আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার asamad...@myopera.com:

 Yes, I'd just use noscript.  It gives you much finer grained control
 than a simple manual on/off option any way.

Last time I tried it, I concluded that manual on/off was much better
for me. But that was years ago, noscript may have improved, and I
don't seem to have a choice anyway...

Thanks,

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:34 PM, Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 ... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/

 Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.

 What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A different browser? I
 don't believe I'm the only one who hates JS and only switches it on
 for websites that absolutely require it.

Yeah, just use NoScript.  They probably killed it because that's what
anyone who used that checkbox really wants.  Makes sense to me.

The real tragedy in Firefox 23 is the death of the blink tag. [1]
It's almost not really Mozilla [2] anymore. :-(

-T.C.

[1] http://www.jwz.org/blog/2013/08/a-light-has-gone-out-on-the-web/
[2] http://www.jwz.org/gruntle/nscpdorm.html
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Re: Where is the iptables firewall configuration file in Fedora 19?

2013-08-09 Thread Anthony Messina
On Saturday, August 10, 2013 07:21:32 AM Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming 
wrote:
 On 10/08/2013 06:03, Anthony Messina wrote:
  On Saturday, August 10, 2013 05:47:57 AM Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming
  
  wrote:
  It's no longer in /etc/sysconfig/iptables.
  
  Fedora 19 used FirewallD by default.  If you prefer to use the iptables
  initscripts, you need to install iptables-services and issue 'systemctl
  disable firewalld'.
  
  -A
 
 Dear Anthony,
 
 How do I configure firewalld? Is there a GUI interface?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/FirewallD

To enable or disable firewall features for example in zones, you can either 
use the graphical configuration tool firewall-config or the command line 
client firewall-cmd

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Andras Simon
2013/8/10, Andre Robatino robat...@fedoraproject.org:
 Andras Simon szajmi at gmail.com writes:

 ... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/

 Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.

 Under about:config , set javascript.enabled to false .

Thanks a lot for saving my sanity!

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Andras Simon
2013/8/10, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com:

 Yeah, just use NoScript.  They probably killed it because that's what
 anyone who used that checkbox really wants.

I'm not sure I do. But thanks for the suggestion anyway!

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Re: Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Colin J Thomson
On Sat 10 August 2013 01:44:45 Andras Simon wrote:
 2013/8/10, আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার asamad...@myopera.com:
  Yes, I'd just use noscript.  It gives you much finer grained control
  than a simple manual on/off option any way.
 
 Last time I tried it, I concluded that manual on/off was much better
 for me. But that was years ago, noscript may have improved, and I
 don't seem to have a choice anyway...

Noscript works well these days, however you can disable JS in
about:config

Set  javascript.enabled to false

HTH

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread T.C. Hollingsworth
On Friday, August 9, 2013, Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 2013/8/10, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com:

 Yeah, just use NoScript.  They probably killed it because that's what
 anyone who used that checkbox really wants.

 I'm not sure I do. But thanks for the suggestion anyway!

Well, in addition to the per-site configuration it's famous for, it also
has a turn on just for this site right now mode, so you can temporarily
turn it on when you need it and just close the tab when you're done,
without having to go into about:config to turn it off.  That also means you
can turn it on for one tab without affecting others.

So you still might. ;-)

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Andras Simon
2013/8/10, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com:
 On Friday, August 9, 2013, Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 2013/8/10, T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com:

 Yeah, just use NoScript.  They probably killed it because that's what
 anyone who used that checkbox really wants.

 I'm not sure I do. But thanks for the suggestion anyway!

 Well, in addition to the per-site configuration it's famous for, it also
 has a turn on just for this site right now mode, so you can temporarily
 turn it on when you need it and just close the tab when you're done,
 without having to go into about:config to turn it off.  That also means you
 can turn it on for one tab without affecting others.

 So you still might. ;-)

turn on just for this site right now mode?  Sounds great!
You're right, I very well might :-)

Thanks,

Andras



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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A different browser? I
 don't believe I'm the only one who hates JS and only switches it on
 for websites that absolutely require it.

Prefbar
http://prefbar.mozdev.org
F8 to show/hide, there's a checkbox to enable/disable JS

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Andras Simon
2013/8/10, Fernando Cassia fcas...@gmail.com:
 On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:34 PM, Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A different browser? I
 don't believe I'm the only one who hates JS and only switches it on
 for websites that absolutely require it.

 Prefbar
 http://prefbar.mozdev.org
 F8 to show/hide, there's a checkbox to enable/disable JS

Thanks for yet another promising option!

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Reindl Harald


Am 10.08.2013 01:34, schrieb Andras Simon:
 ... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/
 
 Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.
 
 What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A different browser? I
 don't believe I'm the only one who hates JS and only switches it on
 for websites that absolutely require it

noscript

what makes me much more angry is that the idiotic tab-bar is now always present
and browser.tabs.autoHide;true is ignored, this absolutely braindead for
web-applications opening dialogs which should have no bars at all

but more frustrating is the general attitude all over the software
wold to hide any options because the developers thinking all their
users are idiots and finally the next generation of users *will* be
idiots because they never had a chance to see and learn anything



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Re: Where is the iptables firewall configuration file in Fedora 19?

2013-08-09 Thread Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming)

On 10/08/2013 06:03, Anthony Messina wrote:

On Saturday, August 10, 2013 05:47:57 AM Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming
wrote:

It's no longer in /etc/sysconfig/iptables.

Fedora 19 used FirewallD by default.  If you prefer to use the iptables
initscripts, you need to install iptables-services and issue 'systemctl
disable firewalld'.

-A


Dear Anthony,

How do I configure firewalld? Is there a GUI interface?

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:42 PM, Reindl Harald h.rei...@thelounge.net wrote:

 but more frustrating is the general attitude all over the software
 wold to hide any options because the developers thinking all their
 users are idiots and finally the next generation of users *will* be
 idiots because they never had a chance to see and learn anything

Exactly my thoughts.

Thats why I use SeaMonkey, the browser suite that used to be Mozilla
instead of the evermore crippled Firefox

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Re: Was Mate desktop, ten caja instances. Now Nouveau

2013-08-09 Thread Kevin J. Cummings
On 07/23/2013 11:03 PM, Roger wrote:
 snip  After that I tried to upgrade from nouveau to NVIDIA drivers.
 /snip
 Why?

vdpau and XvMC

When nouveau support them, I'll reconsider.  Buts its been years now,
and still no support for them in nouveau.

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Ahmad Samir
On 10 August 2013 01:34, Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:
 ... and user-set values will be reset to the default according to
 http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/23.0/releasenotes/

 Thank you Mozilla Foundation, you have just made my netbook unusable.

 What do people suggest? The NoScript addon? A different browser? I
 don't believe I'm the only one who hates JS and only switches it on
 for websites that absolutely require it.

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Sat, Aug 10, 2013 at 01:44:45 +0200,
  Andras Simon sza...@gmail.com wrote:

2013/8/10, আনন্দ কুমার সমাদ্দার asamad...@myopera.com:


Yes, I'd just use noscript.  It gives you much finer grained control
than a simple manual on/off option any way.


Last time I tried it, I concluded that manual on/off was much better
for me. But that was years ago, noscript may have improved, and I
don't seem to have a choice anyway...


You can use about:config to control this, although it's significantly 
less convenient. You could switch to using seamonkey, which is similar, 
but lets you control more stuff through preferences. I have heard mentions 
of other extensions for turning javascript on and off easily.


Note also that they have also removed the ability to disable loading of 
images. As far as I know you can't even do this with about:config.

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Re: Enable JavaScript preference checkbox has been removed in Firefox

2013-08-09 Thread Bruno Wolff III

On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 16:45:02 -0700,
  T.C. Hollingsworth tchollingswo...@gmail.com wrote:


Yeah, just use NoScript.  They probably killed it because that's what
anyone who used that checkbox really wants.  Makes sense to me.


NoScript isn't as safe in at least some regards. There are some places 
that javascript is interpreted that noscript doesn't (or at least didn't) 
control and that javascript attacks could succeed in spite of noscript. 
(The particular example was using javascript in a url after a redirect 
to compromise firefox.)


However, manualling switching between allowing and blocking javascript 
is risky, as it is easy to make a mistake.

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