Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread s.oreilly
I have configured this. I will see if I can find my notes and post them on here!

Sean O'Reilly

On Thu 09/01/14  4:59 PM , Conor O'Callaghan brioscaibri...@gmail.com sent:
 Hi all, 
 
 I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys in 389
 directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key rather than a
 password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client is Ubuntu
 12.04. 
 
 Thanks all,
 
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Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Vesa Alho

I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys in 389
directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key rather than a
password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client is Ubuntu
12.04.


Last time I checked it requires patched openssh-server for Ubuntu. Check 
this: https://marc.waeckerlin.org/computer/blog/ssh_and_ldap


-Vesa

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Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Jonathan Vaughn
We use Kerberos, with LDAP (389DS) as our storage backend, which makes
standing up Kerberos servers really easy, and keeps replication in perfect
sync unlike normal Kerberos replication. Together with SSSD and sudo-ldap
this all makes a pretty powerful combination.

On RHEL/CentOS platforms, install krb5-server-ldap and configure
/etc/krb5.conf accordingly:

[dbmodules]
REALM = {
db_library = kldap
ldap_kerberos_container_dn=dc=some,dc=container
ldap_kdc_dn = uid=kdc,cn=config
ldap_kadmind_dn = uid=kadmin,cn=config
ldap_service_password_file =
/var/kerberos/krb5kdc/realm/service.keyfile
ldap_servers = ldaps://ldap1.realm ldaps://ldap0.realm
ldaps://ldap2.realm
}

Of course there's more to it, but you'll have to google the details, I
can't remember the details off the top of my head. Create the appropriate
LDAP credentials of course, as well as creating the LDAP service.keyfile ...


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Paul Robert Marino prmari...@gmail.comwrote:

 have you considered using Kerberos instead of ssh keys?
 its fairly transparent and doesn't require any patches.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Vesa Alho lis...@alho.fi wrote:
  I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys in 389
  directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key rather than
 a
  password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client is
  Ubuntu
  12.04.
 
 
  Last time I checked it requires patched openssh-server for Ubuntu. Check
  this: https://marc.waeckerlin.org/computer/blog/ssh_and_ldap
 
  -Vesa
 
 
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Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Rob Crittenden

Jonathan Vaughn wrote:

We use Kerberos, with LDAP (389DS) as our storage backend, which makes
standing up Kerberos servers really easy, and keeps replication in
perfect sync unlike normal Kerberos replication. Together with SSSD
and sudo-ldap this all makes a pretty powerful combination.

On RHEL/CentOS platforms, install krb5-server-ldap and configure
/etc/krb5.conf accordingly:

[dbmodules]
 REALM = {
 db_library = kldap
 ldap_kerberos_container_dn=dc=some,dc=container
 ldap_kdc_dn = uid=kdc,cn=config
 ldap_kadmind_dn = uid=kadmin,cn=config
 ldap_service_password_file =
/var/kerberos/krb5kdc/realm/service.keyfile
 ldap_servers = ldaps://ldap1.realm ldaps://ldap0.realm
ldaps://ldap2.realm
 }

Of course there's more to it, but you'll have to google the details, I
can't remember the details off the top of my head. Create the
appropriate LDAP credentials of course, as well as creating the LDAP
service.keyfile ...


As an aside, if you're interested in doing Kerberos and LDAP together 
with a 389-ds backend you may want to look at the FreeIPA project which 
handles a lot of the integration for you. It also supports storing SSH keys.


rob



On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Paul Robert Marino prmari...@gmail.com
mailto:prmari...@gmail.com wrote:

have you considered using Kerberos instead of ssh keys?
its fairly transparent and doesn't require any patches.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Vesa Alho lis...@alho.fi
mailto:lis...@alho.fi wrote:
  I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys
in 389
  directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key
rather than a
  password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client is
  Ubuntu
  12.04.
 
 
  Last time I checked it requires patched openssh-server for
Ubuntu. Check
  this: https://marc.waeckerlin.org/computer/blog/ssh_and_ldap
 
  -Vesa
 
 
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Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Paul Robert Marino
I agree FreeIPA is a good solution but it does have limitations

the one down side to it is you loose some flexibility with FreeIPA for
instance in  in places where you may want strict security policy
separations like a web application farm or a larger enterprises with
many subsidiaries you may want to have multiple OU's with different
replication policies and security ACL's FreeIPA doesn't support that.
On a side note neither does the MIT kerberos V server strictly
speaking but you can workaround that by running multiple instances on
different ports or you can use a Heimdal kerberos V server.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Rob Crittenden rcrit...@redhat.com wrote:
 Jonathan Vaughn wrote:

 We use Kerberos, with LDAP (389DS) as our storage backend, which makes
 standing up Kerberos servers really easy, and keeps replication in
 perfect sync unlike normal Kerberos replication. Together with SSSD
 and sudo-ldap this all makes a pretty powerful combination.

 On RHEL/CentOS platforms, install krb5-server-ldap and configure
 /etc/krb5.conf accordingly:

 [dbmodules]
  REALM = {
  db_library = kldap
  ldap_kerberos_container_dn=dc=some,dc=container
  ldap_kdc_dn = uid=kdc,cn=config
  ldap_kadmind_dn = uid=kadmin,cn=config
  ldap_service_password_file =
 /var/kerberos/krb5kdc/realm/service.keyfile
  ldap_servers = ldaps://ldap1.realm ldaps://ldap0.realm
 ldaps://ldap2.realm
  }

 Of course there's more to it, but you'll have to google the details, I
 can't remember the details off the top of my head. Create the
 appropriate LDAP credentials of course, as well as creating the LDAP
 service.keyfile ...


 As an aside, if you're interested in doing Kerberos and LDAP together with a
 389-ds backend you may want to look at the FreeIPA project which handles a
 lot of the integration for you. It also supports storing SSH keys.

 rob



 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Paul Robert Marino prmari...@gmail.com
 mailto:prmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 have you considered using Kerberos instead of ssh keys?
 its fairly transparent and doesn't require any patches.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Vesa Alho lis...@alho.fi
 mailto:lis...@alho.fi wrote:
   I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys
 in 389
   directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key
 rather than a
   password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client
 is
   Ubuntu
   12.04.
  
  
   Last time I checked it requires patched openssh-server for
 Ubuntu. Check
   this: https://marc.waeckerlin.org/computer/blog/ssh_and_ldap
  
   -Vesa
  
  
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Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Petr Spacek

Hello Paul!

On 9.1.2014 22:56, Paul Robert Marino wrote:

I agree FreeIPA is a good solution but it does have limitations

the one down side to it is you loose some flexibility with FreeIPA for
instance in  in places where you may want strict security policy
separations like a web application farm or a larger enterprises with
many subsidiaries you may want to have multiple OU's with different
replication policies and security ACL's FreeIPA doesn't support that.


Could you elaborate what you miss in FreeIPA, please? We want to know what we 
miss for which use cases...


Naturally, we can't add missing functionality if nobody tells us what is 
missing and why it is useful! :-)


Thank you for your time.

Petr^2 Spacek


On a side note neither does the MIT kerberos V server strictly
speaking but you can workaround that by running multiple instances on
different ports or you can use a Heimdal kerberos V server.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 3:26 PM, Rob Crittenden rcrit...@redhat.com wrote:

Jonathan Vaughn wrote:


We use Kerberos, with LDAP (389DS) as our storage backend, which makes
standing up Kerberos servers really easy, and keeps replication in
perfect sync unlike normal Kerberos replication. Together with SSSD
and sudo-ldap this all makes a pretty powerful combination.

On RHEL/CentOS platforms, install krb5-server-ldap and configure
/etc/krb5.conf accordingly:

[dbmodules]
  REALM = {
  db_library = kldap
  ldap_kerberos_container_dn=dc=some,dc=container
  ldap_kdc_dn = uid=kdc,cn=config
  ldap_kadmind_dn = uid=kadmin,cn=config
  ldap_service_password_file =
/var/kerberos/krb5kdc/realm/service.keyfile
  ldap_servers = ldaps://ldap1.realm ldaps://ldap0.realm
ldaps://ldap2.realm
  }

Of course there's more to it, but you'll have to google the details, I
can't remember the details off the top of my head. Create the
appropriate LDAP credentials of course, as well as creating the LDAP
service.keyfile ...



As an aside, if you're interested in doing Kerberos and LDAP together with a
389-ds backend you may want to look at the FreeIPA project which handles a
lot of the integration for you. It also supports storing SSH keys.

rob




On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:42 PM, Paul Robert Marino prmari...@gmail.com
mailto:prmari...@gmail.com wrote:

 have you considered using Kerberos instead of ssh keys?
 its fairly transparent and doesn't require any patches.


 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Vesa Alho lis...@alho.fi
 mailto:lis...@alho.fi wrote:
   I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys
 in 389
   directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key
 rather than a
   password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client
is
   Ubuntu
   12.04.
  
  
   Last time I checked it requires patched openssh-server for
 Ubuntu. Check
   this: https://marc.waeckerlin.org/computer/blog/ssh_and_ldap
  
   -Vesa



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Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Pete Travis
On Jan 8, 2014 11:36 PM, William Biggs williambigg...@gmail.com wrote:

 My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but I do
not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has it as
default desktop ?

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choose your preference of the day when you login.

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Re: frippery extension in fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Ron Yorston
Patrick Dupre wrote:
I cannot update frippery extensions (application menu, etc..) in fedora 20
I cannot remove them either.

The Frippery extensions are available for F20, as a tar file or RPM
from my website[1] or via the GNOME Shell Extensions website[2].

How did you originally install them?  Because how you update or remove
them depends on how you first got them.

Ron

[1] http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
[2] https://extensions.gnome.org/
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Re: gnome-classic-session

2014-01-09 Thread Ron Yorston
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I am looking through what extensions are available for gnome via yumex, 
and I find gnome-classic-session.

I haven't tried gnome-classic-session in F20 yet though I have looked
at it in F19.  The one feature I missed is the ability to put application
launchers in the top panel.  Happily my Frippery Panel Favorites
extension[1] works in classic mode as well as full-on GNOME 3 mode.

You might also want to look at the other Frippery exensions[2].  I've
been maintaining them since GNOME 3.0 to provide something like what
classic mode now does.

Ron

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Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread poma
On 07.01.2014 20:43, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
 On Mon, 6 Jan 2014 18:29:12 +0100 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 On 06.01.2014 02:00, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
 Hello,

 I have been having a somewhat unusual problem after waking up from
 hibernate with the Cisco VPN client. This only happens with F20 -- it
 was fine till F19.

 Here is what happens: I switch on the Cisco vpnui using:

 /opt/cisco/anyconnect/bin/vpnui 

 NetworkManager-openconnect
 NetworkManager-vpnc

 NetworkManager discussions
 https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/networkmanager-list
 
 Thank you for this. However, I am not completely sure what this means
 in my context. As I mentioned earlier, my vpnui comes up fine for the
 first time after reboot (and a second time after a wake-up from
 hibernate). I have seemingly localized the problem to the vpnd not
 getting activated always after a wakeup from hibernate. Is the above
 going to take care of this problem.  I may mention that other than the
 VPN, the network comes back up just fine.

If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open
one, go ahead, knock yourself out.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Cisco_AnyConnect_VPN
http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html
Good luck with that, Ran. ;)


poma


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Re: F20/Windows 7 Dual Boot Problem

2014-01-09 Thread Dave Cross
On 5 January 2014 15:06, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had my laptop set up for dual boot between Fedora and Windows 7
 for a couple of years. Everything has worked fine.

 I updated from Fedora 19 to Fedora 20 using fedup recently. After
 that, I was still able to boot into Windows when I wanted to.

 But in the last couple of days, I've noticed that Windows is missing
 from the boot menu. So some recent update seems to have removed it.
 Does that sound likely? How can I debug what has happened?

So, it turns out that this was me being an idiot. I have too many old
kernels installed and the Grub menu is too long and has gained a
scrollbar. If I scroll to the bottom, I can see the Windows entry.

Cheers,

Dave...

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Re: frippery extension in fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick Dupre
Thank,

OK, it works

fedup did not update automatically.

 
 Patrick Dupre wrote:
 I cannot update frippery extensions (application menu, etc..) in fedora 20
 I cannot remove them either.
 
 The Frippery extensions are available for F20, as a tar file or RPM
 from my website[1] or via the GNOME Shell Extensions website[2].
 
 How did you originally install them? Because how you update or remove
 them depends on how you first got them.
 
 Ron
 
 [1] http://intgat.tigress.co.uk/rmy/extensions/index.html
 [2] https://extensions.gnome.org/
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Re: Problems with hybrid graphics in Fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Paweł Sikora
On Thursday 09 of January 2014 10:29:12 Shibi wrote:
 Hi,
 after updating my system to fedora 20 I encountered multiple problems
 
 1- Kernel package 3.12 crashes every time I try to use acpi_call or
 vgaswitcheroo to turn off my discrete graphics card (ATI Radeon HD 5650),
 every time I try acpi_call or vgaswitcheroo a abrt notification about
 kernel package appears and vga switcheroo folder disapears from
 /sys/kernel/debug folder

sounds like my problems with nvidia optimus. the 3.12 kernel contains bugs
around gpu/acpi/power-managment. i'm using the 3.13-rcX kernel from rawhide
which contains fresh fix:  
https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=f244d8b623dae7a7bc695b0336f67729b95a9736
with this rawhide kernel optimus works fine with acpi pm events (laptop lid 
close+open).

BR,
Paweł.

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Re: frippery extension in fedora 20

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 11:20 AM, Patrick Dupre pdu...@gmx.com wrote:

 fedup did not update automatically.



Fedup only updates packages from the repos defined in your yum database,
which is really all it can be expected to do.

poc
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Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 09 January 2014, Pete Travis sent:
 I don't understand this. They should not conflict. You can install
 both and choose your preference of the day when you login. 

But why install something you don't intend to use?  I don't use KDE, so
I don't have it installed.  If I did, then I'd have many megabytes of my
bandwidth chewed through any time I did a simple yum update.  Not to
mention the potential for having more problems with my computer, simply
by having more software there, if it's not a *completely* dormant thing.

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trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the
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George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not
a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments.



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Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 12:57 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

 Allegedly, on or about 09 January 2014, Pete Travis sent:
  I don't understand this. They should not conflict. You can install
  both and choose your preference of the day when you login.

 But why install something you don't intend to use?  I don't use KDE, so
 I don't have it installed.  If I did, then I'd have many megabytes of my
 bandwidth chewed through any time I did a simple yum update.  Not to
 mention the potential for having more problems with my computer, simply
 by having more software there, if it's not a *completely* dormant thing.


If you don't use it, remove it (or inhibit it being updated via yum
configuration). I think Tim's point is that you don't need an exploding
number of spins for every desktop out there, of which there are many.
Personally I use KDE but do much of my mailing with Evolution, so I have
the necessary Gnome libraries for that. One desktop doesn't rule out using
bits of another. Having a DE-specific spin is a convenience but is in no
way a requirement.

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Re: Evolution freezes on calendar page

2014-01-09 Thread Matthew Saltzman
On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 20:18 +, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: 
 
 On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:44 PM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu
 wrote:
 Suddenly, whenever I switch evolution to the calendar page (or
 whenever
 it starts on the calendar page) it locks up.  The status bar
 shows
 several occurrences of attempts to sync a couple of calendars
 that I
 subscribe to in gmail.
 
 The last act I completed successfully was to create a
 recurring
 appointment in my Exchange calendar.  The first lockup
 occurred when I
 tried to copy and past that item (though I'm not sure there's
 a causal
 relationship).  (Probably should have just created the next
 appointment
 from scratch, rather than trying to modify a copy.)
 
 
 
 
 You might try asking on the Evo list
 (https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list) but when
 doing so please state which version of Evo you have (see Help-About).

Good point.  I'm usually good about that.

evolution-3.10.3-1.fc20.x86_64

Will also ask on the evo list.  Thanks.

 
 
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Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Sylvia Sánchez
Well..  I don't see the problem.  I have installed Mate  KDE, but I
only use Mate.  Up to now, the other desktop never gives me problem.
Is just there.  From time to time I update it, and that's all.
Aside of it, is always a good idea to have an alternative desktop.  If
your main Environment fails you still have another one to log in and
fix the problem.


Just my experience...
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Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Carlos casep Sepulveda
On 9 January 2014 03:35, William Biggs williambigg...@gmail.com wrote:
 My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but I do
 not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has it as
 default desktop ?


Hi:
You can't as Cinnamon is based on Gnome3

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Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra

 
 If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open
 one, go ahead, knock yourself out.
 https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Cisco_AnyConnect_VPN
 http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html
 Good luck with that, Ran. ;)

Thanks for your e-mail, poma. Btw, you got my name wrong, but anyway. 

Well, I agree with you on staying off proprietary solutions, but as with
flash, I don't really have an option here. The Cisco vpn is needed to
be a node on my employer's network sot that I can access stuff that
they have a license for. It is the only thing that they will accept.
Openvpn never worked for accessing there: I have tried earlier and for
insane amounts of time (a few Fedora's ago, to no avail.) 

I will look into this, but it seems that the agent is not started or
killed after a couple of wakeups from hibernate. This did not use to be
an issue earlier (F19 and before).

Best wishes,
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dnf-yum observation -

2014-01-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA

I did dnf update this morning with the following result:

[root@box10 bobg]# dnf update
Upgrading:
 ibus-kkc
 krb5-libs
 krb5-libs
 libbluray
 libkkc
 libkkc-common
 net-snmp-libs
 qtwebkit
 setroubleshoot-plugins

Transaction Summary
===
Upgrade  9 Packages


After which I ran yum update and it found seven more to do:

[root@box10 bobg]# yum update
Updating:
 NetworkManager
 NetworkManager-glib
 alsa-utils
 coreutils
 gupnp
 policycoreutils
 policycoreutils-python
Installing for dependencie
 checkpolicy

Transaction Summary
==
Install ( 1 De
Upgrade  7 Packages


As I said this is just an observation since we were asked to try dnf. 
This is Fedora-20/64, XFCE.


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Re: dnf-yum observation -

2014-01-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:

snipped

It's feature - less metadata checking

http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/cli_vs_yum.html 



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Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:

Apologies wrog link

http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/

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Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread Bob Marcan
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 11:09:21 -0300
Carlos \casep\ Sepulveda ca...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 On 9 January 2014 03:35, William Biggs williambigg...@gmail.com wrote:
  My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but I do
  not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has it as
  default desktop ?
 
 
 Hi:
 You can't as Cinnamon is based on Gnome3
 

Regarding to
http://segfault.linuxmint.com/2013/10/cinnamon-2-0-released/
it is not true anymore.

...
What’s new under the hood
Cinnamon Backend 2.0

Prior to version 2.0, and similar to Shell or Unity, Cinnamon was a frontend on 
top of the GNOME desktop.

In version 2.0, and similar to MATE or Xfce, Cinnamon is an entire desktop 
environment built on GNOME technologies. It still uses toolkits and libraries 
such as GTK or Clutter and it is still compatible with all GNOME applications, 
but it no longer requires GNOME itself to be installed. It now communicates 
directly with its own backend services, libraries and daemons: 
cinnamon-desktop, cinnamon-session and cinnamon-settings-daemon.
...

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backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread bruce
hi.

looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and
possibly other linux flavors)

I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can
define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach
would allow us to be able to track when things get backed up, as well
as what's getting backed up.

The downside of this, we don't want to backup all of the OS tree, but
at the same time, if a dev has created apps that toss stuff into the
OS tree, it might not get backed up, unless specified...

Thoughts/Comments

thanks
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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread fedora

rsync with a wrapper script? I do it this way.

suomi

On 01/09/2014 03:30 PM, bruce wrote:

hi.

looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and
possibly other linux flavors)

I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can
define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach
would allow us to be able to track when things get backed up, as well
as what's getting backed up.

The downside of this, we don't want to backup all of the OS tree, but
at the same time, if a dev has created apps that toss stuff into the
OS tree, it might not get backed up, unless specified...

Thoughts/Comments

thanks


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dnf-0.4.11

2014-01-09 Thread Ales Kozumplik

Hello,

New DNF release is out. See the blog [1], the release notes [2] and the 
F20 update [3]. Rawhide build went smooth this time too!


Ales

[1] http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/09/dnf-0-4-11-released/
[2] http://akozumpl.github.io/dnf/release_notes.html#id22
[3] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/dnf-0.4.11-1.fc20
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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread bruce
you rsync the entire drive?? or just certain trees?


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM, fedora fed...@ayni.com wrote:
 rsync with a wrapper script? I do it this way.

 suomi


 On 01/09/2014 03:30 PM, bruce wrote:

 hi.

 looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and
 possibly other linux flavors)

 I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can
 define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach
 would allow us to be able to track when things get backed up, as well
 as what's getting backed up.

 The downside of this, we don't want to backup all of the OS tree, but
 at the same time, if a dev has created apps that toss stuff into the
 OS tree, it might not get backed up, unless specified...

 Thoughts/Comments

 thanks

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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread fedora
just certain directories, which may end up in rsyncing the entire drive, 
if necessary.


suomi

On 01/09/2014 03:49 PM, bruce wrote:

you rsync the entire drive?? or just certain trees?


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM, fedora fed...@ayni.com wrote:

rsync with a wrapper script? I do it this way.

suomi


On 01/09/2014 03:30 PM, bruce wrote:


hi.

looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and
possibly other linux flavors)

I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can
define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach
would allow us to be able to track when things get backed up, as well
as what's getting backed up.

The downside of this, we don't want to backup all of the OS tree, but
at the same time, if a dev has created apps that toss stuff into the
OS tree, it might not get backed up, unless specified...

Thoughts/Comments

thanks


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Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Jan Zelený
On 9. 1. 2014 at 14:31:09, Frank Murphy wrote:
 On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500
 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:
 
 Apologies wrog link
 
 http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-differen
 t-output/

Just a note here: if you want the MD to be synced up every time you run yum 
(which is not the case for me and I suppose many users will appreciate the 
fact that dnf doesn't check for MD every single time), check out the clean 
command, you have more options ranging from dnf clean expire-cache to dnf 
clean all.

Ex. dnf clean all  dnf update

Thanks
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basic question - running modified kickstart file??

2014-01-09 Thread bruce
Hi.

Assume I create the initial dvd for fed. I go through the process to
do a simple desktop install.

From the install, I get a kickstart file (ks.cfg). if I want to make
some mods to the kickstart file, and then rerun the install, how do I
do this, and use the modified kickstart that I now have?

Or, is there a way to do an unattended install that simply uses the
modified kickstart file, since it would have all of the selected
entries?

I've been looking all over for how this could/should work.

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Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA


On 09/01/14 09:31, Frank Murphy wrote:

On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 09:26:32 -0500
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:

Apologies wrong link

http://dnf.baseurl.org/2014/01/02/dnf-update-and-yum-update-produce-different-output/

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I guess I just don't understand, it seems like an update should include 
everything that needs changing ...  Dnf is faster but if it only does 
half as much is that an improvement?


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Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Frank Murphy
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:21:39 -0500
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:

 I guess I just don't understand, it seems like an update should
 include everything that needs changing ...  Dnf is faster but if it
 only does half as much is that an improvement?
 

It is for some who don't like pulling 100+mb of metadata say each day,
with a daily run. If there's only 20mb of updates.

If you do want more updates as per Jan suggestion 
you can dnf clean  dnf upgate

The extra metadate also doesn't bother some, me being one.
cat /etc/cron.daily/yum-clean
#!/bin/bash
# yum clean on a daily basis
/usr/bin/yum clean headers metadata dbcache expire-cache rpmdb \ 
# other stuff


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Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
I tried dnf. One major issue that I did not like is that I asked it to
install a bunch of stuff, one of which was not available (in F20). That
meant dnf would not install anything. 

Also it was not clear to me that it was using deltarpms. Of course, I
did not look into all possibilities so there may be some setting that I
needed to have. 

Other than these, it worked fine for me.

Ranjan


On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 15:30:43 + Frank Murphy frankl...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 10:21:39 -0500
 Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA bobgood...@wildblue.net wrote:
 
  I guess I just don't understand, it seems like an update should
  include everything that needs changing ...  Dnf is faster but if it
  only does half as much is that an improvement?
  
 
 It is for some who don't like pulling 100+mb of metadata say each day,
 with a daily run. If there's only 20mb of updates.
 
 If you do want more updates as per Jan suggestion 
 you can dnf clean  dnf upgate
 
 The extra metadate also doesn't bother some, me being one.
 cat /etc/cron.daily/yum-clean
 #!/bin/bash
 # yum clean on a daily basis
 /usr/bin/yum clean headers metadata dbcache expire-cache rpmdb \ 
 # other stuff
 
 
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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Neal Becker
Dunno about your specific requirements, but have a look at obnam.  I'm very 
pleased with this for my needs.

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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Shaw
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:30 AM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com wrote:

 hi.

 looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and
 possibly other linux flavors)

 I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can
 define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach
 would allow us to be able to track when things get backed up, as well
 as what's getting backed up.

 The downside of this, we don't want to backup all of the OS tree, but
 at the same time, if a dev has created apps that toss stuff into the
 OS tree, it might not get backed up, unless specified...


I use BackuPC at home. It's clientless (uses the rsync on the host) but
it's designed to be very automated. You can't tell it exactly when to
backup, just a time window. You can specify how many full and incrementals
you want to keep, what directories you want to include/exclude, and even do
a tar (with or without compression) archives out to another disk/location.
It is NOT designed for full system backup/restores and because of the
dependence on rsync, it doesn't handle large files that change frequently
as it has to transfer the whole file again. It does do deduplication so
it's generally effective for home directories, especially where there is a
large number of duplicate files between users.

Richard
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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/09/2014 10:16 AM, Richard Shaw wrote:
 On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:30 AM, bruce badoug...@gmail.com
 mailto:badoug...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 hi.
 
 looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and
 possibly other linux flavors)
 
 I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can
 define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach
 would allow us to be able to track when things get backed up, as well
 as what's getting backed up.
 
 The downside of this, we don't want to backup all of the OS tree, but
 at the same time, if a dev has created apps that toss stuff into the
 OS tree, it might not get backed up, unless specified...
 
 
 I use BackuPC at home. It's clientless (uses the rsync on the host) but
 it's designed to be very automated. You can't tell it exactly when to
 backup, just a time window. You can specify how many full and
 incrementals you want to keep, what directories you want to
 include/exclude, and even do a tar (with or without compression)
 archives out to another disk/location. It is NOT designed for full
 system backup/restores and because of the dependence on rsync, it
 doesn't handle large files that change frequently as it has to transfer
 the whole file again. It does do deduplication so it's generally
 effective for home directories, especially where there is a large number
 of duplicate files between users. 
 
 Richard
 
 


As long as we're recommending:  I use rdiff_backup to back up my home
directory every morning to the server in the basement.  Once a week, I
use rsync to back up the whole thing to an external USB3 drive via this
script. Because it uses hard links when copying backup.x to backup.x+1,
there's no additonal space needed for files that have not changed, so I
can easily have weeks of backup on the external drive.

#! /bin/sh
mount -t ext4 /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ext-backup
echo last backup was `ls -l /last_backup_ts |cut -d ' ' -f 6-8`
cd /mnt/ext-backup/sds-desk
echo deleting oldest backup
rm -fr backup.F
echo rolling backups
mv backup.E backup.F
mv backup.D backup.E
mv backup.C backup.D
mv backup.B backup.C
mv backup.A backup.B
mv backup.9 backup.A
mv backup.8 backup.9
mv backup.7 backup.8
mv backup.6 backup.7
mv backup.5 backup.6
mv backup.4 backup.5
mv backup.3 backup.4
mv backup.2 backup.3
mv backup.1 backup.2
echo copying backup to backup.1
cp -al backup backup.1
echo updating backup
rsync -va --exclude-from /usr/local/bin/do-backup-excludes --delete /
/mnt/ext-backup/sds-desk/backup/
cd /
df /mnt/ext-backup
echo Wait for external drive to settle
sync
sync
sleep 30
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Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread poma
On 09.01.2014 15:21, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

 Thanks for your e-mail, poma. Btw, you got my name wrong, but anyway. 
 
 Well, I agree with you on staying off proprietary solutions, but as with
 flash, I don't really have an option here. The Cisco vpn is needed to
 be a node on my employer's network sot that I can access stuff that
 they have a license for. It is the only thing that they will accept.
 Openvpn never worked for accessing there: I have tried earlier and for
 insane amounts of time (a few Fedora's ago, to no avail.) 
 
 I will look into this, but it seems that the agent is not started or
 killed after a couple of wakeups from hibernate. This did not use to be
 an issue earlier (F19 and before).

OK Ranjan.
However people do use 'Open client for Cisco AnyConnect VPN' 
'NetworkManager VPN plugin for openconnect' as a viable solution.
For troubleshooting contact folks on the corresponding mailing lists.


poma


Shumway should be part of the upcoming version of Firefox.
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[389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Conor O'Callaghan
Hi all,

I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys in 389
directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key rather than a
password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client is Ubuntu
12.04.

Thanks all,

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Re: Cinnamon desktop

2014-01-09 Thread William Biggs
Thank for all the info 

On Wed, 2014-01-08 at 22:57 -0800, Edward M wrote:
 On 1/8/2014 10:35 PM, William Biggs wrote:
 
  My brother told me about Cinnamon desktop . I tryed it I like it but
  I do not want to install it along with gnome . Witch fedora spin has
  it as default desktop ?
  
  
 
Unfortunately, according to the spins directory, it does not
 seem a cinnamon spin exists 
May want to check the  MATE-compiz spin.
 
 https://spins.fedoraproject.org/


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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Rick Stevens

On 01/09/2014 06:52 AM, fedora issued this missive:

just certain directories, which may end up in rsyncing the entire drive,
if necessary.


bacula works pretty well. You can define directory trees to back up,
exclude lists, backup type (full, incremental, differential), etc. Takes
a bit of work to set up but functions quite well.



suomi

On 01/09/2014 03:49 PM, bruce wrote:

you rsync the entire drive?? or just certain trees?


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 9:40 AM, fedora fed...@ayni.com wrote:

rsync with a wrapper script? I do it this way.

suomi


On 01/09/2014 03:30 PM, bruce wrote:


hi.

looking to be able to backup a number of machines running fed (and
possibly other linux flavors)

I'm considering some sort of agent process, where the owner/user can
define the dirs that the owner wants backed up. This kind of approach
would allow us to be able to track when things get backed up, as well
as what's getting backed up.

The downside of this, we don't want to backup all of the OS tree, but
at the same time, if a dev has created apps that toss stuff into the
OS tree, it might not get backed up, unless specified...

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F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-09 Thread Emmanuel Noobadmin
I'm trying to use Fedora on a touch-screen only tablet but haven't
been able to solve this crucial problem: there doesn't appear to be
anyway to log into the system without a physical keyboard. Everything
else worked fine out of the box but the Universal Access keyboard
appears to work only after a desktop session is logged into.

From web search, it seems that some folks had been trying to do this
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solution. Is this still the case even with F20 and I should be looking
at other distribution instead or is there some way around this?
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Re: F20/Windows 7 Dual Boot Problem

2014-01-09 Thread Chris Murphy

On Jan 9, 2014, at 3:29 AM, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 5 January 2014 15:06, Dave Cross dav...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've had my laptop set up for dual boot between Fedora and Windows 7
 for a couple of years. Everything has worked fine.
 
 I updated from Fedora 19 to Fedora 20 using fedup recently. After
 that, I was still able to boot into Windows when I wanted to.
 
 But in the last couple of days, I've noticed that Windows is missing
 from the boot menu. So some recent update seems to have removed it.
 Does that sound likely? How can I debug what has happened?
 
 So, it turns out that this was me being an idiot. I have too many old
 kernels installed and the Grub menu is too long and has gained a
 scrollbar. If I scroll to the bottom, I can see the Windows entry.

Scrollbar in GRUB. Ha! It's definitely an OS!


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installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, Started Builds ...

2014-01-09 Thread David Shwatrz
Hello, fedora users,
I have an Nvidia graphic card. Instead of using the default nouveau
driver, I installed akmod-nvidia (simply by yum -y install
akmod-nvidia)

Now first time after installing akmod-nvidia and restarting the
machine boot hanged with this message:
[OK] Started Builds and install kmods from akmod packages.

I waited for more than 10 minutes and nothing happened, I cannot boot.
Any ideas ? what should I do so that it will boot OK ?

regards,
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Re: installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, Started Builds ...

2014-01-09 Thread Richard Shaw
I don't know why it would hang, but did you also install gcc,
kernel-headers, kernel-devel?

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Re: [389-users] SSH Public keys

2014-01-09 Thread Paul Robert Marino
have you considered using Kerberos instead of ssh keys?
its fairly transparent and doesn't require any patches.


On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Vesa Alho lis...@alho.fi wrote:
 I'm just wondering if anyone has experience storing public keys in 389
 directory server to allow a user to login using an ssh-key rather than a
 password? I am running the server on Ubuntu 13.10 and the client is
 Ubuntu
 12.04.


 Last time I checked it requires patched openssh-server for Ubuntu. Check
 this: https://marc.waeckerlin.org/computer/blog/ssh_and_ldap

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Re: basic question - running modified kickstart file??

2014-01-09 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 10:02:31AM -0500, bruce wrote:
 Assume I create the initial dvd for fed. I go through the process to
 do a simple desktop install.
 
 From the install, I get a kickstart file (ks.cfg). if I want to make
 some mods to the kickstart file, and then rerun the install, how do I
 do this, and use the modified kickstart that I now have?

You just need to give that kickstart file to anaconda. Have you see the
documentation at

http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/20/html/Installation_Guide/ch-kickstart2.html

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Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 08:21:06AM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
 
  
  If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open
  one, go ahead, knock yourself out.
  https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Cisco_AnyConnect_VPN
  http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html
  Good luck with that, Ran. ;)
 
 Thanks for your e-mail, poma. Btw, you got my name wrong, but anyway. 
 
 Well, I agree with you on staying off proprietary solutions, but as with
 flash, I don't really have an option here. The Cisco vpn is needed to
 be a node on my employer's network sot that I can access stuff that
 they have a license for. It is the only thing that they will accept.
 Openvpn never worked for accessing there: I have tried earlier and for
 insane amounts of time (a few Fedora's ago, to no avail.) 
 
 I will look into this, but it seems that the agent is not started or
 killed after a couple of wakeups from hibernate. This did not use to be
 an issue earlier (F19 and before).

I have missed the earlier parts of this thread, so plsl forgive me if  
I'm re-covering something.

for cisco vpn thyere's vpnc, which should be available in the standard
repos, and for their SSL vpn there's anyconnect. I've used both and have
had good luyck with both,

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Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Andre Robatino
Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored at inbox.com writes:

 Also it was not clear to me that it was using deltarpms. Of course, I
 did not look into all possibilities so there may be some setting that I
 needed to have. 

Unfortunately, dnf doesn't yet support deltarpms. See
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=909468 .

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Re: dnf-yum observation - link corrected

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:36:42 + Andre Robatino
robat...@fedoraproject.org wrote:

 Ranjan Maitra maitra.mbox.ignored at inbox.com writes:
 
  Also it was not clear to me that it was using deltarpms. Of course, I
  did not look into all possibilities so there may be some setting that I
  needed to have. 
 
 Unfortunately, dnf doesn't yet support deltarpms. See
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=909468 .

Thank you. Eventually, this will be added, I am sure, as also the
option to continue if it does not find a package (and is asked to
install a bunch).

Other than these two issues, I found dnf just fine as a substitute to
yum. 

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Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Thu, 9 Jan 2014 16:06:33 -0500 Fred Smith
fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us wrote:

 On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 08:21:06AM -0600, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
  
   
   If you insist on using proprietary solution rather than free and open
   one, go ahead, knock yourself out.
   https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Cisco_AnyConnect_VPN
   http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html
   Good luck with that, Ran. ;)
  
  Thanks for your e-mail, poma. Btw, you got my name wrong, but anyway. 
  
  Well, I agree with you on staying off proprietary solutions, but as with
  flash, I don't really have an option here. The Cisco vpn is needed to
  be a node on my employer's network sot that I can access stuff that
  they have a license for. It is the only thing that they will accept.
  Openvpn never worked for accessing there: I have tried earlier and for
  insane amounts of time (a few Fedora's ago, to no avail.) 
  
  I will look into this, but it seems that the agent is not started or
  killed after a couple of wakeups from hibernate. This did not use to be
  an issue earlier (F19 and before).
 
 I have missed the earlier parts of this thread, so plsl forgive me if  
 I'm re-covering something.
 
 for cisco vpn thyere's vpnc, which should be available in the standard
 repos, and for their SSL vpn there's anyconnect. I've used both and have
 had good luyck with both,

Thanks! I guess you meant openconnect: I will take a look. I notice
from the webpage 

http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html

that there are two gui's: NetworkManager-openconnect and connman: any
preferences for either?

many thanks,
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Re: installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, Started Builds ...

2014-01-09 Thread bitlord
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 20:25 +0200, David Shwatrz wrote:
 Hello, fedora users,
 I have an Nvidia graphic card. Instead of using the default nouveau
 driver, I installed akmod-nvidia (simply by yum -y install
 akmod-nvidia)
 
 Now first time after installing akmod-nvidia and restarting the
 machine boot hanged with this message:
 [OK] Started Builds and install kmods from akmod packages.
 
 I waited for more than 10 minutes and nothing happened, I cannot boot.
 Any ideas ? what should I do so that it will boot OK ?
 
 regards,
 DavidS

It is possible that you are missing kernel-devel package 
use this for installing  http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia  
also if you are interested why it doesn't install 'kernel-devel'
package, look here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047041  

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Re: installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, Started Builds ...

2014-01-09 Thread Joe Zeff

On 01/09/2014 02:07 PM, bitlord wrote:

It is possible that you are missing kernel-devel package
use this for installinghttp://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia
also if you are interested why it doesn't install 'kernel-devel'
package, look herehttps://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047041


It's also possible that the appropriate xorg-x11-drv-nvidia files 
weren't installed.  Having the kmod doesn't do much good if there's 
nothing available to make use of it.  Please run:


yum list installed \*nvidia\*

(Root access not needed) and let us know what files it reports.
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Re: backup thoughts..

2014-01-09 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 2:52 PM, fedora fed...@ayni.com wrote:

 just certain directories, which may end up in rsyncing the entire drive,
 if necessary.



I'll put in a good word for rsnapshot, an rsync wrapper which I've used
happily for several years and has worked well for my needs. Just so people
don't go reinventing the wheel :-)

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Re: F20 On-screen keyboard for login

2014-01-09 Thread Mikkel L. Ellertson

On 01/09/2014 11:43 AM, Emmanuel Noobadmin wrote:

I'm trying to use Fedora on a touch-screen only tablet but haven't
been able to solve this crucial problem: there doesn't appear to be
anyway to log into the system without a physical keyboard. Everything
else worked fine out of the box but the Universal Access keyboard
appears to work only after a desktop session is logged into.

 From web search, it seems that some folks had been trying to do this
since several Fedora versions ago but there appeared to be no
solution. Is this still the case even with F20 and I should be looking
at other distribution instead or is there some way around this?
It has been a while, so I do not remember the exact details. But 
what you need to do is have your display manager launch the virtual 
keyboard as part of the init sequence. I am guessing that for gdm, 
you would put it in the /etc/gdm/custom.conf. You may also want to 
look at the /etc/X11/xinit directory tree. Add a file in 
/etc/X11/xinit/xinit.d?


I am sorry I can not remember how to do it, but it has probably 
changed sense the last time I did it. This should at least get you 
pointed in the correct direction...


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f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz
Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as your 
default email program, your default editor, and I believe your default 
file browser.  I can't find a similar facility in f20.


I want to change my default file browser from Nautilus to Nemo.


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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Steven Stern
On 01/09/2014 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as your
 default email program, your default editor, and I believe your default
 file browser.  I can't find a similar facility in f20.
 
 I want to change my default file browser from Nautilus to Nemo.
 
 

SETTINGS - DETAILS - DEFAULT APPLICATIONS

Get to settings from the top bar or search on ACTIVITES for 'settings'

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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz


On 01/09/2014 06:01 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 01/09/2014 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as your
default email program, your default editor, and I believe your default
file browser.  I can't find a similar facility in f20.

I want to change my default file browser from Nautilus to Nemo.



SETTINGS - DETAILS - DEFAULT APPLICATIONS

Get to settings from the top bar or search on ACTIVITES for 'settings'


And file browser is not one of the changable programs.  :(


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F20 has blurry font rendering

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth
I've upgraded a few machines and felt the font rendering was harder to read in 
F20. I took some F19 screenshots and F20 screenshots and found my eyes were correct.


Thunderbird
F19: http://i.imgur.com/rgnFmU6.png
F20: http://i.imgur.com/ceOIM0n.png

Firefox
F19: http://i.imgur.com/8MXxy0N.png
F20: http://i.imgur.com/669DSwI.png

I do not see any font changes mentioned in the F20 ChangeSet list so someone 
snuck a font change in.


Anyone else run into this?
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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread ergodic
Steven,
My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due
to its length, it has a couple of pictures..

I will be happy to email it directly if you give me your email.

The information without the graphics follows:

# yum install -y nemo alacarte

Set Nemo as Default File browser:

# alacarte

Once alacarte is running, in the left hand pane, choose the Accessories 
category. 
The right hand pane should list two items with the Label Files.

Disable the nemo entry (the Files entry with the folder icon) by deselecting 
the checkbox beside the folder icon. Next, edit the nautilus entry (the one 
with the Filing Cabinet icon), by selecting it, and choosing properties.
In the Dialog that pops up, change the command from nautilus %U to nemo %U

Good luck


- Original Message -
 
 On 01/09/2014 06:01 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
  On 01/09/2014 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as
  your
  default email program, your default editor, and I believe your
  default
  file browser.  I can't find a similar facility in f20.
 
  I want to change my default file browser from Nautilus to Nemo.
 
 
  SETTINGS - DETAILS - DEFAULT APPLICATIONS
 
  Get to settings from the top bar or search on ACTIVITES for
  'settings'
 
 And file browser is not one of the changable programs.  :(
 
 
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Re: F20 has blurry font rendering

2014-01-09 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 09 Jan 2014 19:40:31 -0600
Michael Cronenworth wrote:

 I've upgraded a few machines and felt the font rendering was harder to read 
 in 
 F20. I took some F19 screenshots and F20 screenshots and found my eyes were 
 correct.

I haven't had any real font issues since I started turning
on autohinting unconditionally by adding this file:

cat 'EOF'  /etc/fonts/conf.d/10-autohint.conf
?xml version=1.0?
!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM fonts.dtd
fontconfig
!--  Use the Autohinter -- 
  match target=font
edit name=autohint mode=assignbooltrue/bool/edit
  /match
/fontconfig
EOF

There is a autohint file shipped with fedora, but it doesn't
have the key piece: mode=assign

Of course, they also tend to change the default font and all
the themes in every release because God forbid anyone should
get used to the way things look.

Depending on what you are using as a monitor, this can also
affect the way things look now in f20:

https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=709859
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Re: qemu-system-x86 eat 400% CPU

2014-01-09 Thread Frantisek Hanzlik
James Hogarth wrote:
 On 25 November 2013 04:20, Frantisek Hanzlik fra...@hanzlici.cz wrote:
 
 On Fedora 19/x86_64, Xeon 4cores/8threads, 8GB RAM I have in a VM
 installed windows 2000 (full qemu cmdline see below). What is weird,
 'top' on host show that all 4 threads load CPU at 100% each. On guest
 are running only minimum processes and windows task manager show load
 0-2%; virtual machine is almost idle. VM itself seems react well, its
 responses are fine.

 
 I've seen this behaviour before on Windows guests with incorrect HAL
 (non-ACPI) causing the guests to basically busy spin on the CPUs ...
 
 I had to rebuild the box with an appropriate HAL to get it to behave
 sanely...
 
 Incidentally your performance in that guest will always be fairly poor due
 to a lack of virtio drivers and windows 2000 has been out of support for a
 few years now ... you really should not be using it in general...

James, thank You for turning me to right direction - You was right,
there was ACPI/HAL problem. I solved it according to MS KB 919521 by
editing system registry (this will change w2k's HAL to use the PMTimer
instead of the ACPI timer). Host CPU load is then minimal.

It's a shame that KVM it lacks virtio drivers support for w2k. But for my
needs it isn't too big issue, I want it just for some termporary testing.

Thanks again, Franta Hanzlik

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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz

Why thank you.

On 01/09/2014 08:58 PM, ergodic wrote:

Steven,
My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due
to its length, it has a couple of pictures..

I will be happy to email it directly if you give me your email.

The information without the graphics follows:

# yum install -y nemo alacarte

Set Nemo as Default File browser:

# alacarte

Once alacarte is running, in the left hand pane, choose the Accessories 
category.
The right hand pane should list two items with the Label Files.

Disable the nemo entry (the Files entry with the folder icon) by deselecting 
the checkbox beside the folder icon. Next, edit the nautilus entry (the one 
with the Filing Cabinet icon), by selecting it, and choosing properties.
In the Dialog that pops up, change the command from nautilus %U to nemo %U


It is nautilus --new-window %U to nemo %U

And now when I put in an SD card, it brings up nemo for the files function!



Good luck


- Original Message -

On 01/09/2014 06:01 PM, Steven Stern wrote:

On 01/09/2014 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things as
your
default email program, your default editor, and I believe your
default
file browser.  I can't find a similar facility in f20.

I want to change my default file browser from Nautilus to Nemo.



SETTINGS - DETAILS - DEFAULT APPLICATIONS

Get to settings from the top bar or search on ACTIVITES for
'settings'


And file browser is not one of the changable programs.  :(


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Re: f20 - Changing your default file browser

2014-01-09 Thread ergodic
You are welcome!  Glad it helped.

Thus I am cancelling the original message
review in users-bounces.

- Original Message -
 Why thank you.
 
 On 01/09/2014 08:58 PM, ergodic wrote:
  Steven,
  My original reply is being held for list moderator's review due
  to its length, it has a couple of pictures..
 
  I will be happy to email it directly if you give me your email.
 
  The information without the graphics follows:
 
  # yum install -y nemo alacarte
 
  Set Nemo as Default File browser:
 
  # alacarte
 
  Once alacarte is running, in the left hand pane, choose the
  Accessories category.
  The right hand pane should list two items with the Label Files.
 
  Disable the nemo entry (the Files entry with the folder icon) by
  deselecting the checkbox beside the folder icon. Next, edit the
  nautilus entry (the one with the Filing Cabinet icon), by
  selecting it, and choosing properties.
  In the Dialog that pops up, change the command from nautilus %U
  to nemo %U
 
 It is nautilus --new-window %U to nemo %U
 
 And now when I put in an SD card, it brings up nemo for the files
 function!
 
 
  Good luck
 
 
  - Original Message -
  On 01/09/2014 06:01 PM, Steven Stern wrote:
  On 01/09/2014 04:50 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
  Back in f17, Gnome had a panel where you specified such things
  as
  your
  default email program, your default editor, and I believe your
  default
  file browser.  I can't find a similar facility in f20.
 
  I want to change my default file browser from Nautilus to Nemo.
 
 
  SETTINGS - DETAILS - DEFAULT APPLICATIONS
 
  Get to settings from the top bar or search on ACTIVITES for
  'settings'
 
  And file browser is not one of the changable programs.  :(
 
 
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Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread poma
On 09.01.2014 23:06, Ranjan Maitra wrote:

 Thanks! I guess you meant openconnect: I will take a look. I notice
 from the webpage 
 
 http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html
 
 that there are two gui's: NetworkManager-openconnect and connman: any
 preferences for either?

http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/


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Re: F20: Cisco vpn does not launch after a couple of wake-ups from hibernate

2014-01-09 Thread Ranjan Maitra
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 04:34:58 +0100 poma pomidorabelis...@gmail.com
wrote:

 On 09.01.2014 23:06, Ranjan Maitra wrote:
 
  Thanks! I guess you meant openconnect: I will take a look. I notice
  from the webpage 
  
  http://www.infradead.org/openconnect/mail.html
  
  that there are two gui's: NetworkManager-openconnect and connman: any
  preferences for either?
 
 http://blogs.gnome.org/dcbw/2009/06/25/networkmanager-and-connman/

Thanks! Btw, I was able to get NetworkManager work with openconnect.
(It however had troubled coming up after a hibernate, but did
eventually make it after a few tries. Not clear why this happened.)
So, at least before Cisco breaks this perhaps (don't really know if it
is part of their plan a la Microsoft), we are good with openconnect.

Judging by it, I will soon have a completely OSS laptop (if flash can
be gotten rid of).

Best wishes,
Ranjan


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OCR

2014-01-09 Thread Robert Moskowitz

For f20, is there an OCR program for extracting the text out of a pdf scan?

I have an old document of 'Assembly Instructions'.  Some can be found 
at: http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/humor/instruction.set.html, 
but I have a few more.  And a lot less.


But I want the ones that were passed around in my assembly writing days 
(early 80s).



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Re: F20 has blurry font rendering

2014-01-09 Thread Michael Cronenworth

On 01/09/2014 07:58 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

I haven't had any real font issues


Thanks, Tom, but please look at my screenshots, which you snipped.

The auto-hint trick is bad advice and the Gnome bug is not related at all.

I found the issue to be Gnome 3.10 - after downgrading fontconfig/pango did not 
change anything.


Disabling the 'xsettings' plugin of gnome-settings-daemon results in sharp, 
crystal clear fonts like F19. Bug filing time!



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Re: OCR

2014-01-09 Thread g


hello robert.

On 01/09/2014 09:56 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:

For f20, is there an OCR program for extracting the text out of a pdf
scan?


do you have the pdf file or are you talking about files that were
run thru a scanner?


I have an old document of 'Assembly Instructions'.  Some can be
found at:
http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~bcd/humor/instruction.set.html,
but I have a few more.  And a lot less.


that is a dead link.


But I want the ones that were passed around in my assembly writing
days (early 80s).



in past, i have had need to convert pdf files to text files. the
2 linux programs that i  used where pdf2txt and pdftotext.

i do not know if binaries are available for f20, if not, there are
plenty of sites with source.

  https://ixquick.com/do/search?q=%22pdf2text%22+%2Blinuxlui=english

gives about 19,310 results of information. 1st page has what is needed.

do not know about, other than calibre at;

  http://calibre-ebook.com/download_linux

also, as i understand, you can use google docs to convert a pdf file
to a text file.

last, but not least, adobe reader can export text from a pdf file.


hth.

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Re: [SOLVED] installing akmod-nividia on F20 - machine hang after reboot, Started Builds ...

2014-01-09 Thread David Shwatrz
Hello,
Thanks for all those who gave an advice.

After running:
yum -y install  kernel-devel
and rebooting the machine, the problem disappears.

It seems to me that the akmod-nvidia rpm should require kernel-devel,
because it is useless without it; so that yum install akmod-nvidia
will also install kernel-devel. The kernel-devel rpm is not part of
the default installation of Fedora 20, and I am sure that other people
encountered this issue.

Regards,
DavidS


On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:07 AM, bitlord bitlord0...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 20:25 +0200, David Shwatrz wrote:
 Hello, fedora users,
 I have an Nvidia graphic card. Instead of using the default nouveau
 driver, I installed akmod-nvidia (simply by yum -y install
 akmod-nvidia)

 Now first time after installing akmod-nvidia and restarting the
 machine boot hanged with this message:
 [OK] Started Builds and install kmods from akmod packages.

 I waited for more than 10 minutes and nothing happened, I cannot boot.
 Any ideas ? what should I do so that it will boot OK ?

 regards,
 DavidS

 It is possible that you are missing kernel-devel package
 use this for installing  http://rpmfusion.org/Howto/nVidia
 also if you are interested why it doesn't install 'kernel-devel'
 package, look here https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1047041

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