All-Flock Special Edition of 5 Things in Fedora This Week (5tFTW 2014-08-05)
Reposted from http://fedoramagazine.org/5tftw-2014-08-05/ Fedora is a big project, and it’s hard to follow it all. This series highlights interesting happenings in five different areas every week. It isn’t comprehensive news coverage — just quick summaries with links to each. Here are the five things for August 5th, 2014: Late? Flock re-registration is not required --- This week, is Flock our annual conference for Fedora contributors. We alternate between Europe and North America, and this year, we’re in Prague in the Czech Republic. While we asked for pre-registration, that registration is *not necessary* to attend. You won’t get a t-shirt, lunches, or a conference badge, but you’re still welcome to attend. Just show up at the Czech Technical University in Prague tomorrow, August 6th, or any day through Saturday. * http://flocktofedora.org/ * http://flocktofedora.org/location/venue/ Don’t take a taxi — take the bus If you’re coming from the airport in Prague, we recommended you take the bus] — see transportation details on the Flock page. It’s simple and costs just 32 CZK — about $1.50 US. * http://flocktofedora.org/location/transportation/ Flock keynotes: free and open software, from governments to laptops --- We have two exciting keynote talks at Flock. The first will be from Gijs Hillenius of European Commission’s Open Source Observatory Repository, giving an overview of FOSS in public administrations in Europe. The second is from Sean “xobs” Cross, on the Novena laptop project — an entirely open hardware system built around a quad-core ARM processor (and available for preorder from Crowdsupply). * https://twitter.com/Sjig (Gijs Hillenius) * http://osor.eu/ * https://twitter.com/xobs (Sean “xobs” Cross) * http://www.kosagi.com/w/index.php?title=Novena_Main_Page * https://www.crowdsupply.com/kosagi/novena-open-laptop A sampling of sessions -- Many sessions at Flock focus on practical, technical aspects, like Josh Boyer’s State of the Fedora Kernel or Aditya Patawari’s Orchestration with Ansible at Fedora Project. Others focus on important social and community issues, like Jiří Eischmann’s Fedora Ambassadors: State of the Union, Marina Zhurakhinskaya’s Outreach Program for Women, or Sarup Banskota’s The curious case of Fedora Freshmen (aka Issue #101). Flock is also about planning for the our future, and there are two of these in particular I’d like to highlight. First, on Thursday, Stephen Gallagher is running Fedora.next.next: Planning for Fedora 22. Fedora 21 is now approaching alpha, but Rawhide, our development branch, is already the first inklings of Fedora 22. We already have some approved features targetted for that release next year (for example, the DNF command-line package manager), and many of the ideas we’re starting with F21′s Fedora Cloud, Fedora Server, and Fedora Workstation will really come into realization in F22. Come and help us decide what we’ll aim to accomplish. Second, on Saturday, Toshio Kuratomi and Haïkel Guémar are moderating a discussion on the future of Fedora governance. This will be much more broad than just the Fedora.next product working groups, and will probably focus on a proposal to restructure the Fedora Project Board to be a representative council with membership drawn from various Fedora subprojects. Of course we won’t make any decisions at a conference which not everyone can attend, but we do hope to come out of this with a solid plan — so, again, come join us if you’d like to help. * State of the Fedora Kernel: http://sched.co/Sc0wuX * Orchestration with Ansible at Fedora Project: http://sched.co/SbYwmu * Fedora Ambassadors: State of the Union: http://sched.co/SbU3Ab * Outreach Program for Women: http://sched.co/SbUkDi * The curious case of Fedora Freshmen (aka Issue #101): http://sched.co/SbRuOy * Fedora.next.next: Planning for Fedora 22: http://sched.co/1kI1hXj * http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/ReplaceYumWithDNF * The future of Fedora governance: http://sched.co/Sc6Oux Can’t be in Prague? There will be video! Live video will be available from at least the bigger session rooms at Flock, and available online after the conference as well. Take a look at the Flock Conference 2014 Prague YouTube Channel, starting at (approximately) 06:45 UTC Wednesday morning. (That’s 8:45 here in Prague.) **Note the last-minute channel change!** * https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQIXiF6fxPCtHw_XwHFq6nA Bonus call for help! If you *will* be here, we could use help writing up summaries of the talks for Fedora Magazine. Just a few paragraphs on any talk that you find interesting would be great — you can contact Chris Roberts or Ryan Lerch for access. (Ryan’s at home in the U.S., but Chris will be at
Re: Fedora power management
Allegedly, on or about 05 August 2014, CLOSE Dave sent: If the laptop is closed, it goes to suspend within a few minutes. As a side issue, you need to check that your laptop won't overheat if the lid is shut. Some of them have ventilation around the keyboard, and need it. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora power management
On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:46 AM, CLOSE Dave dave.cl...@us.thalesgroup.com wrote: Thanks for the reply. I interpret your comments to imply that, because I'm using KDM, the laptop should never go to sleep while at the login screen. Unfortunately, that is not my experience. If the laptop is closed, it goes to suspend within a few minutes. That is what I'm trying to prevent. Oh, this is probably systemd. I glossed over the word laptops in the beginning of your e-mail, sorry. systemd (by default) doesn't put idle systems to sleep, but it does put closed laptops to sleep when no desktop power management system is active (e.g. when KDM is running). Just set HandleLidSwitch=ignore in /etc/systemd/logind.conf to turn it off. See `man logind.conf` for more information. -T.C. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
Hi, In my case, most of the time for ARM images I use as root(be careful!): more /dev/sdb /dev/sdc # I use sdb as source and sdc as destination sync It makes an exact copy and you don't have to care about options. Best regards, Alexis. Le 06/08/2014 05:44, Robert Moskowitz a écrit : This is a Fedora arm problem, but probably more experience with dd and sd cards here... SO I boot my Cubieboard2 from microSD. I grabbed 8 16GB cards from the bin at the MicroCenter checkout counter. They work fine for building F21 arm boots, but I am getting far enough into the process that if I do something wrong, I don't want to go all the way back to the beginning. I rather clone the card, play around, and soforth. So I tried using: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4096 conv=notrunc,noerror; sync the target sd card has been previously use. The copy fails in use as follows: Mounting Configuration File System... [ OK ] Mounted Configuration File System. [ OK ] Found device /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc878de-92d2-4a66-b352-f055a32473b9. [ OK ] Started dracut initqueue hook. [ OK ] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen. [ OK ] Reached target Paths. [ OK ] Reached target Basic System. Starting dracut pre-mount hook... [ OK ] Reached target Remote File Systems (Pre). [ OK ] Reached target Remote File Systems. Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc8...f055a32473b9... [ 13.911063] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 3587707 blocks [ OK ] Started dracut pre-mount hook. [ 13.919598] systemd-fsck[368]: The physical size of the device is 3548795 blocks [ 13.937109] systemd-fsck[368]: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! [ 13.944962] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. [ 13.950853] systemd-fsck[368]: (i.e., without -a or -p options) [ OK ] Started File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc87...2-f055a32473b9. Mounting /sysroot... [ 14.483857] random: nonblocking pool is initialized [ 14.571964] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p3): bad geometry: block count 3587707 exceeds size of device (3548795 blocks) [FAILED] Failed to mount /sysroot. See 'systemctl status sysroot.mount' for details. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Initrd Root File System. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Reload Configuration from the Real Root. [ OK ] Stopped dracut pre-pivot and cleanup hook. [ OK ] Stopped target Initrd Default Target. [ OK ] Stopped dracut mount hook. [ OK ] Reached target Initrd File Systems. [ OK ] Stopped target Basic System. [ OK ] Stopped target System Initialization. Starting Emergency Shel Generating /run/initramfs/rdsosreport.txt Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue. Type journalctl to view system logs. You might want to save /run/initramfs/rdsosreport.txt to a USB stick or /boot after mounting them and attach it to a bug report. :/# === I put the card back in my build system and looked at it with Gparted which shows the whole drive as unallocated, even though the system successfully mounted /boot (but not /). So the question is: HOw better can I clone the card? SDFormatter in Windows is one suggestion, but I don't want to have to jump over to the family XP system. thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 23:44 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc8...f055a32473b9... [ 13.911063] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 3587707 blocks [ OK ] Started dracut pre-mount hook. [ 13.919598] systemd-fsck[368]: The physical size of the device is 3548795 blocks [ 13.937109] systemd-fsck[368]: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! [ 13.944962] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. are the cards exactly the same size? It looks as if the card you copiued to is smaller than the one you copied from... What does fdisk -l report for disk size for the old and new cards? /Louis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 05:26 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 23:44 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc8...f055a32473b9... [ 13.911063] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 3587707 blocks [ OK ] Started dracut pre-mount hook. [ 13.919598] systemd-fsck[368]: The physical size of the device is 3548795 blocks [ 13.937109] systemd-fsck[368]: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! [ 13.944962] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. are the cards exactly the same size? It looks as if the card you copiued to is smaller than the one you copied from... What does fdisk -l report for disk size for the old and new cards? IT DOES look like that. I will try the fdisk. I suspect that although they are marketed as 16GB, they vary due to manufacturing quality by a block or so. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 04:26 AM, Alexis Jeandet wrote: Hi, In my case, most of the time for ARM images I use as root(be careful!): more /dev/sdb /dev/sdc # I use sdb as source and sdc as destination sync It makes an exact copy and you don't have to care about options. I am assuming that I unmount the drives first. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19 install and custom / RAID partitioning
On Thursday 05 June 2014 11:19:29 Gary Stainburn wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2014 10:29:36 Gary Stainburn wrote: If I do not create the biosboot partition I can create everything else without errors but when I return to the main screen I get an warning that there is an error checking the storage configuration. The error is: you have not created a bootloader stage 1 target device This was the error that I google'd and got the instruction to create the biosboot partition at 1MB catch 22 Not sure if it was the correct thing to do but I checked the BIOS settings and changed some of the stuff from legacy to EFI (?) then also created /boot/efi and the installation is now proceeding (hopefully) correctly. Next to work out how to boot my old server using a LIVE DVD and mount the old filesystems. Then sit and watch it rsync about 2GB. Yippee I'm now at the point where I need to add extra storeage. I'm planning on adding another 2x3TB drives in RAID1 but can only find instructions on how to do it as part of the initial install, not to an existing system. Does anyone know of decent instructions on how to do this? Gary -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 05:26 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 23:44 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc8...f055a32473b9... [ 13.911063] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 3587707 blocks [ OK ] Started dracut pre-mount hook. [ 13.919598] systemd-fsck[368]: The physical size of the device is 3548795 blocks [ 13.937109] systemd-fsck[368]: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! [ 13.944962] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. are the cards exactly the same size? It looks as if the card you copiued to is smaller than the one you copied from... What does fdisk -l report for disk size for the old and new cards? Well, yes they are different: # fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 14.7 GiB, 15720251392 bytes, 30703616 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0xd42361d8 # fdisk -l /dev/sdc Disk /dev/sdc: 14.5 GiB, 15560867840 bytes, 30392320 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0xed0dd3b4 And nothing I can do about that. Seems that the size is based on whatever fits based on quality of the chip. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 04:26 AM, Alexis Jeandet wrote: Hi, In my case, most of the time for ARM images I use as root(be careful!): more /dev/sdb /dev/sdc # I use sdb as source and sdc as destination sync It makes an exact copy and you don't have to care about options. Using fdisk and parted, I can see my problem, and this won't work. The target card IS smaller than the source. But I can 'fix' that if there is a partition resize command where I can specify the end block in the resize. No reason I cannot shrink sdb3 to what will fit on the target card. Best regards, Alexis. Le 06/08/2014 05:44, Robert Moskowitz a écrit : This is a Fedora arm problem, but probably more experience with dd and sd cards here... SO I boot my Cubieboard2 from microSD. I grabbed 8 16GB cards from the bin at the MicroCenter checkout counter. They work fine for building F21 arm boots, but I am getting far enough into the process that if I do something wrong, I don't want to go all the way back to the beginning. I rather clone the card, play around, and soforth. So I tried using: sudo dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sdc bs=4096 conv=notrunc,noerror; sync the target sd card has been previously use. The copy fails in use as follows: Mounting Configuration File System... [ OK ] Mounted Configuration File System. [ OK ] Found device /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc878de-92d2-4a66-b352-f055a32473b9. [ OK ] Started dracut initqueue hook. [ OK ] Started Show Plymouth Boot Screen. [ OK ] Reached target Paths. [ OK ] Reached target Basic System. Starting dracut pre-mount hook... [ OK ] Reached target Remote File Systems (Pre). [ OK ] Reached target Remote File Systems. Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc8...f055a32473b9... [ 13.911063] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 3587707 blocks [ OK ] Started dracut pre-mount hook. [ 13.919598] systemd-fsck[368]: The physical size of the device is 3548795 blocks [ 13.937109] systemd-fsck[368]: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! [ 13.944962] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. [ 13.950853] systemd-fsck[368]: (i.e., without -a or -p options) [ OK ] Started File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc87...2-f055a32473b9. Mounting /sysroot... [ 14.483857] random: nonblocking pool is initialized [ 14.571964] EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p3): bad geometry: block count 3587707 exceeds size of device (3548795 blocks) [FAILED] Failed to mount /sysroot. See 'systemctl status sysroot.mount' for details. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Initrd Root File System. [DEPEND] Dependency failed for Reload Configuration from the Real Root. [ OK ] Stopped dracut pre-pivot and cleanup hook. [ OK ] Stopped target Initrd Default Target. [ OK ] Stopped dracut mount hook. [ OK ] Reached target Initrd File Systems. [ OK ] Stopped target Basic System. [ OK ] Stopped target System Initialization. Starting Emergency Shel Generating /run/initramfs/rdsosreport.txt Entering emergency mode. Exit the shell to continue. Type journalctl to view system logs. You might want to save /run/initramfs/rdsosreport.txt to a USB stick or /boot after mounting them and attach it to a bug report. :/# === I put the card back in my build system and looked at it with Gparted which shows the whole drive as unallocated, even though the system successfully mounted /boot (but not /). So the question is: HOw better can I clone the card? SDFormatter in Windows is one suggestion, but I don't want to have to jump over to the family XP system. thanks -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 02:16 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: And nothing I can do about that. Seems that the size is based on whatever fits based on quality of the chip. http://media.ccc.de/browse/congress/2013/30C3_-_5294_-_en_-_saal_1_-_201312291400_-_the_exploration_and_exploitation_of_an_sd_memory_card_-_bunnie_-_xobs.html Watch this, and you never look at an SD-Card the same ever again. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Thunderbird not displaying content of some messages
I have some messages that Thunderbird is not displaying. And I looked back in a couple folder archives and messages that use to display are now not displaying. So obviously something changed. Anyone else seeing this? ANy tips? Anyone interested, I could forward one of the messages off-list. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird not displaying content of some messages
On 08/06/14 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have some messages that Thunderbird is not displaying. And I looked back in a couple folder archives and messages that use to display are now not displaying. So obviously something changed. Anyone else seeing this? ANy tips? Anyone interested, I could forward one of the messages off-list. I'm not seeing this. However, it has happened to me before when using local folders. Have you tried right clicking on the folder containing the messages, selecting Properties, and then Repair Folder. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Re install Fedora 20
On 08/02/2014 07:57 AM, Roger wrote: I have Fedora 20 LVM but cannot access it due to grub error which defaults to grub rescue. Can I reinstall Fedora without touching the /home directory on an LVM please thanks Roger Yes, it is possible. During install, give the mount point for the existing home filesystem as '/home', but just remember to keep the checkbox for formatting that specific filesystem unchecked. -- Regards, Rejy M Cyriac (rmc) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Re install Fedora 20
On 08/06/2014 06:58 PM, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/02/2014 07:57 AM, Roger wrote: I have Fedora 20 LVM but cannot access it due to grub error which defaults to grub rescue. Can I reinstall Fedora without touching the /home directory on an LVM please thanks Roger Yes, it is possible. During install, give the mount point for the existing home filesystem as '/home', but just remember to keep the checkbox for formatting that specific filesystem unchecked. Forgot to mention that this is possible only if the current '/home' exists as a separate filesystem If not, the only way to save the data would be to boot into rescue mode using the install DVD/USB, copy the data from the /home directory to an external drive, and then reinstall the system, copy back the data. -- Regards, Rejy M Cyriac (rmc) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird not displaying content of some messages
On 08/06/2014 09:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/06/14 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have some messages that Thunderbird is not displaying. And I looked back in a couple folder archives and messages that use to display are now not displaying. So obviously something changed. Anyone else seeing this? ANy tips? Anyone interested, I could forward one of the messages off-list. I'm not seeing this. However, it has happened to me before when using local folders. Have you tried right clicking on the folder containing the messages, selecting Properties, and then Repair Folder. Oh, the content of the message. I see the messages in the list no problem. I open one and the message body comes up blank. View -MessageSource shows there is html mime body in the message. I might suspect that the emailer in use for these messages is building messages for a specific Windows font that Linux does not have. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird not displaying content of some messages
On 08/06/14 21:44, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/06/2014 09:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/06/14 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have some messages that Thunderbird is not displaying. And I looked back in a couple folder archives and messages that use to display are now not displaying. So obviously something changed. Anyone else seeing this? ANy tips? Anyone interested, I could forward one of the messages off-list. I'm not seeing this. However, it has happened to me before when using local folders. Have you tried right clicking on the folder containing the messages, selecting Properties, and then Repair Folder. Oh, the content of the message. I see the messages in the list no problem. I open one and the message body comes up blank. View -MessageSource shows there is html mime body in the message. I might suspect that the emailer in use for these messages is building messages for a specific Windows font that Linux does not have. I see. I misunderstood what you were saying. If you want, you can forward as attachment a sample message or save it and sent the resulting .eml file my way. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: I suspect that although they are marketed as 16GB, they vary due to manufacturing quality by a block or so. The other thing to consider if it is a bargain bin drive is that the drive might be a counterfeit with mismarked capacity. http://www.ebay.com/gds/All-About-Fake-Flash-Drives-2013-/1000177553258/g.html -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
start of app starts in background
hello, i have a niggling little problem. whenever i start a program, the window comes up at the bottom of the z-order, rather at the top. i have looked in the system setting where i saw nothing obvious. any assist is greatly appreciated. -- regards, awb -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Solved - Re: Thunderbird not displaying content of some messages
For some reason these messages had: View-Message Body As set to text. Once I changed it to 'simple html' they displayed. Thanks for your time, Ed. On 08/06/2014 09:44 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/06/2014 09:12 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/06/14 20:50, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I have some messages that Thunderbird is not displaying. And I looked back in a couple folder archives and messages that use to display are now not displaying. So obviously something changed. Anyone else seeing this? ANy tips? Anyone interested, I could forward one of the messages off-list. I'm not seeing this. However, it has happened to me before when using local folders. Have you tried right clicking on the folder containing the messages, selecting Properties, and then Repair Folder. Oh, the content of the message. I see the messages in the list no problem. I open one and the message body comes up blank. View -MessageSource shows there is html mime body in the message. I might suspect that the emailer in use for these messages is building messages for a specific Windows font that Linux does not have. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 09:58 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: I suspect that although they are marketed as 16GB, they vary due to manufacturing quality by a block or so. The other thing to consider if it is a bargain bin drive is that the drive might be a counterfeit with mismarked capacity. http://www.ebay.com/gds/All-About-Fake-Flash-Drives-2013-/1000177553258/g.html These are not sold under any name. They are 'blank' packaged. So I figured that whatever that whatever is 'wrong' with them in perhaps malware, would get blown away by Linux. I once DID buy a usb drive from an online store that had a hidden partition with some strange looking stuff -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sendmail problem
On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 10:37 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote: Starting at some point during the day on July 30, my outgoing emails have been queueing up on my Fedora 19 server with some strange messages: # mailq /var/spool/mqueue (1 request) -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient--- s75EJYwb013189*3981 Tue Aug 5 10:19 cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net (Deferred: Connection refused by localhost.localdomain.homeip) recipi...@gmail.com Total requests: 1 Are you using domain names that you own? Is there a DNS entry that points to someone else's IPs? Foggy memory, here, but sendmail may be looking up MX records to work out where to send mail, and if there is a public record that doesn't relate to your own IPs, things could be messy. The hosts file cannot do MX records. You'd need to configure sendmail to know that certain domains are local. Email can be rather painful when you're using host files, I use a local DNS server which has a configuration set into it for all local machines in the same manner as is traditional for setting up real public IPs (e.g. forward and reverse look-ups, A names for machines, CNAMES for any aliases, MX records). And why is localhost.localdomain being prepended to my local domain name in the mqueue? When there are multiple answers for domain names (host files, or DNS), it's typically the first one that becomes the answer. e.g. with the following in /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain something.example.com 127.0.0.1 blah.example.com All those domain names and hostnames have the 127.0.0.1 IP. But if something asks what's the name for 127.0.0.1, the answer will be just localhost. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.15.7-200.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Jul 28 19:21:33 UTC 2014 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On Wed, 2014-08-06 at 08:16 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/06/2014 05:26 AM, Louis Lagendijk wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 23:44 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Starting File System Check on /dev/disk/by-uuid/1dc8...f055a32473b9... [ 13.911063] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: The filesystem size (according to the superblock) is 3587707 blocks [ OK ] Started dracut pre-mount hook. [ 13.919598] systemd-fsck[368]: The physical size of the device is 3548795 blocks [ 13.937109] systemd-fsck[368]: Either the superblock or the partition table is likely to be corrupt! [ 13.944962] systemd-fsck[368]: _/: UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY. are the cards exactly the same size? It looks as if the card you copiued to is smaller than the one you copied from... What does fdisk -l report for disk size for the old and new cards? Well, yes they are different: # fdisk -l /dev/sdb Disk /dev/sdb: 14.7 GiB, 15720251392 bytes, 30703616 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0xd42361d8 # fdisk -l /dev/sdc Disk /dev/sdc: 14.5 GiB, 15560867840 bytes, 30392320 sectors Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Disklabel type: dos Disk identifier: 0xed0dd3b4 And nothing I can do about that. Seems that the size is based on whatever fits based on quality of the chip. Do a resizefs device/partition new-size to something smaller than what will fit on the new stick. After copying the content over it should boot ok and then correct the partiton table (delete the partition and create it again, fdisk should automatically set the size IIRC), then do a resize2fs device/partiton without size ro enlarge the partion to it's max size. The only problem: for the shrinking the partion must be unmounted. Louis -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sendmail problem
On 08/06/2014 11:27 AM, Tim wrote: On Tue, 2014-08-05 at 10:37 -0400, Kevin Cummings wrote: Starting at some point during the day on July 30, my outgoing emails have been queueing up on my Fedora 19 server with some strange messages: # mailq /var/spool/mqueue (1 request) -Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- Sender/Recipient--- s75EJYwb013189*3981 Tue Aug 5 10:19 cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net (Deferred: Connection refused by localhost.localdomain.homeip) recipi...@gmail.com Total requests: 1 Are you using domain names that you own? Is there a DNS entry that points to someone else's IPs? My domain is dynamic DNS, owned by Dyn DNS, but allocated to me. In that regard, I own kjchome.homeip.net (I pay for its use). If you do a DNS lookup on it, you will find the IP address allocated to me (via DHCP) by my ISP. Foggy memory, here, but sendmail may be looking up MX records to work out where to send mail, and if there is a public record that doesn't relate to your own IPs, things could be messy. The hosts file cannot do MX records. You'd need to configure sendmail to know that certain domains are local. Just my subdomain kjchome.homeip.net is local, the rest of the domain homeip.net is external. Email can be rather painful when you're using host files, I use a local DNS server which has a configuration set into it for all local machines in the same manner as is traditional for setting up real public IPs (e.g. forward and reverse look-ups, A names for machines, CNAMES for any aliases, MX records). I could not get the files to flush until I added localhost.localdomain.kjchome.homeip.net to my /etc/hosts file under 127.0.0.1. After I added this alias, sendmail -q now sends those emails out. My question was 2 fold: 1) why the ridiculous looking combined FQDN 2) why won't sendmail send these out without the explicit sendmail -q And why is localhost.localdomain being prepended to my local domain name in the mqueue? When there are multiple answers for domain names (host files, or DNS), it's typically the first one that becomes the answer. My /etc/host.conf file contains 1 line: multi on My /etc/resolv.conf contains 3 nameserver lines: nameserver 192.168.6.94 ; My server nameserver 192.168.6.1 ; My router nameserver 8.8.8.8 ; Google e.g. with the following in /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain something.example.com 127.0.0.1 blah.example.com All those domain names and hostnames have the 127.0.0.1 IP. But if something asks what's the name for 127.0.0.1, the answer will be just localhost. Interesting, localhost.localdomain is the first name on that line Should I change it such that localhost is first? Why is this only broken recently? What changed on or about July 30 I may go back to having my iPhone just use my ISP's email server directly instead of using my own server (which of course send all of its outgoing mail to my ISP). -- Kevin J. Cummings kjch...@verizon.net cummi...@kjchome.homeip.net cummi...@kjc386.framingham.ma.us Registered Linux User #1232 (http://www.linuxcounter.net/) -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora power management
T.C. Hollingsworth wrote: systemd (by default) doesn't put idle systems to sleep, but it does put closed laptops to sleep when no desktop power management system is active (e.g. when KDM is running). Just set HandleLidSwitch=ignore in /etc/systemd/logind.conf to turn it off. See `man logind.conf` for more information. Thank you. That was precisely the information I needed. -- Dave Close -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: On 08/06/2014 09:58 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: I suspect that although they are marketed as 16GB, they vary due to manufacturing quality by a block or so. The other thing to consider if it is a bargain bin drive is that the drive might be a counterfeit with mismarked capacity. http://www.ebay.com/gds/All-About-Fake-Flash-Drives-2013-/1000177553258/g.html These are not sold under any name. They are 'blank' packaged. So I figured that whatever that whatever is 'wrong' with them in perhaps malware, would get blown away by Linux. I once DID buy a usb drive from an online store that had a hidden partition with some strange looking stuff The above URL uses counterfeit to mean drives are sold as large capacity drives that really don't have large flash chips inside. The upstream sellers buy small drives and reprogram the controllers to advertise a larger size that the drive really can't deliver. -wolfgang -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Re install Fedora 20
On 06/08/14 23:28, Rejy M Cyriac wrote: On 08/02/2014 07:57 AM, Roger wrote: I have Fedora 20 LVM but cannot access it due to grub error which defaults to grub rescue. Can I reinstall Fedora without touching the /home directory on an LVM please thanks Roger Yes, it is possible. During install, give the mount point for the existing home filesystem as '/home', but just remember to keep the checkbox for formatting that specific filesystem unchecked. Thank you Rejy In desperation I took another but similar route which saved the files. I fresh installed CentOS 6.5 which still has the rudimentary but very easy anaconda. It found the LVM /home directory so I requested to format / and /boot but not the /home. Unfortunately it removed /var/www/html which had web development files but that is acceptable. CentOS now has my original files in that fresh install and I can also copy files across to the fresh install of Ubuntu14.04 on an SSD as needed so while not prefect, things are salvageable. Thank you for your email Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 03:55 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: On 08/06/2014 09:58 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: I suspect that although they are marketed as 16GB, they vary due to manufacturing quality by a block or so. The other thing to consider if it is a bargain bin drive is that the drive might be a counterfeit with mismarked capacity. http://www.ebay.com/gds/All-About-Fake-Flash-Drives-2013-/1000177553258/g.html These are not sold under any name. They are 'blank' packaged. So I figured that whatever that whatever is 'wrong' with them in perhaps malware, would get blown away by Linux. I once DID buy a usb drive from an online store that had a hidden partition with some strange looking stuff The above URL uses counterfeit to mean drives are sold as large capacity drives that really don't have large flash chips inside. The upstream sellers buy small drives and reprogram the controllers to advertise a larger size that the drive really can't deliver. Well these are marketed as 16Gb. parted is showing one to be 15.6Gb. And I have put over 8Gb on a couple of them. I think if MicroCenter was seriously mismarketing them, their customers would be complaining in droves. Being off by .4Gb would not be noticed and as in my cases tossed off as low quality that needed to mark parts of it as not to be used and thus the smaller size. # parted /dev/sdb print Model: Generic- Multi-Card (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 15.6GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags: Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 1000kB 513MB 512MB primary ext3 2 513MB 1025MB 512MB primary linux-swap(v1) 3 1025MB 15.6GB 14.5GB primary ext4 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: On 08/06/2014 03:55 PM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: On 08/06/2014 09:58 AM, Wolfgang S. Rupprecht wrote: Robert Moskowitz r...@htt-consult.com writes: I suspect that although they are marketed as 16GB, they vary due to manufacturing quality by a block or so. The other thing to consider if it is a bargain bin drive is that the drive might be a counterfeit with mismarked capacity. http://www.ebay.com/gds/All-About-Fake-Flash-Drives-2013-/1000177553258/g.html These are not sold under any name. They are 'blank' packaged. So I figured that whatever that whatever is 'wrong' with them in perhaps malware, would get blown away by Linux. I once DID buy a usb drive from an online store that had a hidden partition with some strange looking stuff The above URL uses counterfeit to mean drives are sold as large capacity drives that really don't have large flash chips inside. The upstream sellers buy small drives and reprogram the controllers to advertise a larger size that the drive really can't deliver. Well these are marketed as 16Gb. parted is showing one to be 15.6Gb. And I have put over 8Gb on a couple of them. I think if MicroCenter was seriously mismarketing them, their customers would be complaining in droves. Being off by .4Gb would not be noticed and as in my cases tossed off as low quality that needed to mark parts of it as not to be used and thus the smaller size. # parted /dev/sdb print Model: Generic- Multi-Card (scsi) Disk /dev/sdb: 15.6GB Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B Partition Table: msdos Disk Flags: Number Start End SizeType File system Flags 1 1000kB 513MB 512MB primary ext3 2 513MB 1025MB 512MB primary linux-swap(v1) 3 1025MB 15.6GB 14.5GB primary ext4 You do realize that whatever parted is showing is whatever the USB's controller is telling it? If you have having problems writing the full drive's worth of information (as your previous message indicated) my first sanity check would be to write the full *raw* drive with unique data and see if the expected data was still there on read. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
Allegedly, on or about 06 August 2014, Robert Moskowitz sent: Using fdisk and parted, I can see my problem, and this won't work. The target card IS smaller than the source. But I can 'fix' that if there is a partition resize command where I can specify the end block in the resize. No reason I cannot shrink sdb3 to what will fit on the target card. Just wondering about a simplistic solution: Partition the card, the original one, so that you don't use the whole card, by default. Then, when you clone the working partition of your template card, it's always going to be a bit smaller than your target copies. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sendmail problem
Tim: Are you using domain names that you own? Is there a DNS entry that points to someone else's IPs? Kevin Cummings: My domain is dynamic DNS, owned by Dyn DNS, but allocated to me. In that regard, I own kjchome.homeip.net (I pay for its use). If you do a DNS lookup on it, you will find the IP address allocated to me (via DHCP) by my ISP. It has no MX record, so I'd expect sendmail to just use the IPs associated with the hostnames (mailing directly between machines). On the other hand, if they had a MX record pointing to one of their own mail servers, sendmail would be trying to pipe your mail through it, and fun and games would ensue. Email can be rather painful when you're using host files, I use a local DNS server which has a configuration set into it for all local machines in the same manner as is traditional for setting up real public IPs (e.g. forward and reverse look-ups, A names for machines, CNAMES for any aliases, MX records). I could not get the files to flush until I added localhost.localdomain.kjchome.homeip.net to my /etc/hosts file under 127.0.0.1. After I added this alias, sendmail -q now sends those emails out. My question was 2 fold: 1) why the ridiculous looking combined FQDN First answer to a DNS query becomes the answer, so make your first answer the one you want. Usually, you want a machine hostname to point to a network IP (whether an internal one, such as 192.168.0.1 or a real public IP). 127.0.0.1 only works within a machine, itself, and it becomes problematic to test mail between different things on your network when hostnames resolve to the localhost address. Various servers go through a series of queries to work out what addresses to use, such as: Find the numerical IP for the hostname it wants to know about. For instance, this sort of thing can happen: Find the IP for mail.example.com and be told that its 192.168.1.2 Double-check the hostname for that IP, and be told that its www.example.com (that IP could have several hostnames attached, and this one was the first response). Triple-check, and find the IP for www.example.com is 192.168.1.2 Work with those last two numerical IPs and named addresses... If there's a switch in names somewhere along the way, like that example, you can get unexpected responses, if *you* weren't prepared for it. If something goes into localhost that needs to actually leave the machine, things can end up going around in circles in the localhost. e.g. You're trying to use mail with example.com, some hostfile associates that hostname with 127.0.0.1, and now everything backfires to the localhost address, instead of where you want it. My hosts file, and my DNS servers, only associate the localhost and localhost.localdomain addresses with 127.0.0.1. All my internal machine hostnames resolve to their network addresses (192.168.1.xyz), none of them double up back to the localhost address. This is my entire hosts file: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 2) why won't sendmail send these out without the explicit sendmail -q The million dollar question, but may be related to working out the right address to use. And localhost can only deliver mail to itself. And why is localhost.localdomain being prepended to my local domain name in the mqueue? When there are multiple answers for domain names (host files, or DNS), it's typically the first one that becomes the answer. My /etc/host.conf file contains 1 line: multi on My /etc/resolv.conf contains 3 nameserver lines: nameserver 192.168.6.94 ; My server nameserver 192.168.6.1; My router nameserver 8.8.8.8; Google That's a different kettle of fish. I was referring to something like either your hosts file, or a DNS server, providing multiple answers about the same query. The host.conf multi on wouldn't appear to be a problem, see this for a one page explanation: http://www.linfo.org/etc_host_conf.html The resolv.conf series of nameservers refer to which ones will be asked to provide answers. The first one will be asked, and only if it doesn't respond, will the next one be asked. Likewise for subsequent listed name server addresses. And I do mean if it doesn't respond., quite precisely. If it does respond, but cannot supply the answer, it has responded, the other servers will not be asked. So, unless the first name server is disconnected, the second will not be queried. And if the first and second ones aren't available, then the third one will be used. There'll usually be a seriously annoying delay before things timeout waiting for a non-responsive name server, so all queries will slow, one after another. I don't think that Linux remembers that the first (and/or next) servers hasn't responded, for the next query, and skip trying to ask them on each name server query. e.g. with the following in
Re: cloned sd card is not booting
On 08/06/2014 09:36 PM, Tim wrote: Allegedly, on or about 06 August 2014, Robert Moskowitz sent: Using fdisk and parted, I can see my problem, and this won't work. The target card IS smaller than the source. But I can 'fix' that if there is a partition resize command where I can specify the end block in the resize. No reason I cannot shrink sdb3 to what will fit on the target card. Just wondering about a simplistic solution: Partition the card, the original one, so that you don't use the whole card, by default. Then, when you clone the working partition of your template card, it's always going to be a bit smaller than your target copies. that is where I am heading. For this stage of testing, I really don't need no 14Gb for storage. I have learned a bit during this. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Sendmail problem
On 08/06/2014 10:19 PM, Tim wrote: Tim: Are you using domain names that you own? Is there a DNS entry that points to someone else's IPs? Kevin Cummings: My domain is dynamic DNS, owned by Dyn DNS, but allocated to me. In that regard, I own kjchome.homeip.net (I pay for its use). If you do a DNS lookup on it, you will find the IP address allocated to me (via DHCP) by my ISP. It has no MX record, so I'd expect sendmail to just use the IPs associated with the hostnames (mailing directly between machines). On the other hand, if they had a MX record pointing to one of their own mail servers, sendmail would be trying to pipe your mail through it, and fun and games would ensue. Whoa, I think we're off track here. Email is being submitted by remote machines to my mail server (OK, right now it seems it is just my iPhone). Sendmail is accepting it. When it gets to my mail server, something happens and sendmail does not immediately forward it off to where it is going. Instead, it ends up in my servers mqueue with some funky names. Email can be rather painful when you're using host files, I use a local DNS server which has a configuration set into it for all local machines in the same manner as is traditional for setting up real public IPs (e.g. forward and reverse look-ups, A names for machines, CNAMES for any aliases, MX records). I could not get the files to flush until I added localhost.localdomain.kjchome.homeip.net to my /etc/hosts file under 127.0.0.1. After I added this alias, sendmail -q now sends those emails out. My question was 2 fold: 1) why the ridiculous looking combined FQDN First answer to a DNS query becomes the answer, so make your first answer the one you want. Usually, you want a machine hostname to point to a network IP (whether an internal one, such as 192.168.0.1 or a real public IP). 127.0.0.1 only works within a machine, itself, and it becomes problematic to test mail between different things on your network when hostnames resolve to the localhost address. When I sent an email this morning while outside the house on a remote network, the email was properly sent to my home server's sendmail. it was accepted for delivery (through mail submission port, with credentials. When I send from inside the house, it goes direct to sendmail through port 25 because it is a local network address). When it appears in the mqueue, it has the funky name. (it then got flushed when cron ran the 5 minute sendmail -q) I'm still having trouble believing it is DNS related (but I acknowledge that I could be wrong). AFAICT, nothing has changed in my setup in quite a while. Why is failing now, and not before? (I *hate it* when things break and I didn't change anything!) [A while ago, I had a working local name server running, but I haven't recovered it since I upgraded from F14 to F19. Thus all the hacks in my /etc/hosts file.] Various servers go through a series of queries to work out what addresses to use, such as: Find the numerical IP for the hostname it wants to know about. For instance, this sort of thing can happen: Find the IP for mail.example.com and be told that its 192.168.1.2 Double-check the hostname for that IP, and be told that its www.example.com (that IP could have several hostnames attached, and this one was the first response). Triple-check, and find the IP for www.example.com is 192.168.1.2 Work with those last two numerical IPs and named addresses... If there's a switch in names somewhere along the way, like that example, you can get unexpected responses, if *you* weren't prepared for it. If something goes into localhost that needs to actually leave the machine, things can end up going around in circles in the localhost. e.g. You're trying to use mail with example.com, some hostfile associates that hostname with 127.0.0.1, and now everything backfires to the localhost address, instead of where you want it. My hosts file, and my DNS servers, only associate the localhost and localhost.localdomain addresses with 127.0.0.1. All my internal machine hostnames resolve to their network addresses (192.168.1.xyz), none of them double up back to the localhost address. This is my entire hosts file: 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6 My mail server's hosts file has a lot more stuff in it. Mostly to handle things that I couldn't get to work otherwise. It contains all the static IPs of my home network, plus all the IPv6 stuff for my local network and IPv4/6 tunnel connection. 127.0.0.1 is only associated with localhost names (granted, quite a few of them). My internal server IPv6 address contains my system's FQDN so that my laptop can access it internally (over my local IPv6) and externally it accesses it via the remote IPv4 address. My iPhone also has a static IPv4 address on my network, but I can't configure any local hosts file for it. So, I
