Thunderbird does not display images in email messages
I have been having a problem with TB for quite some time, and I am getting rather tired of the problem. Images in messages that are sent to me by users of windows are not displayed in TB. Rather, all I see are empty boxes where images are supposed to be. This is not to say that every message I get from windows users containing images are treated this way by TB. I am just saying that some individuals I know, who use windows, and send me email containing images are treated this way by TB. Is there a setting that I need to set? Other people send me images all the time, and I have no problem viewing them in TB. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Different behaviour running under strace?
On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 19:08:44 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Yep, giving it an argument definitely only look at that one filesystem. I've checked older systems and the -l option really did work once upon a time, avoiding all the stats of everything. And now I've submitted this bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1199679 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages
On 03/07/15 09:22, jd1008 wrote: OK, I uploaded it to sendspace.com The download link is: https://www.sendspace.com/file/1audkv The images are there, at least in my T-Bird, if I scroll all down to the bottom. They are not displayed within the message with the text to describe the image since the message is poorly constructed by what appears to be a JavaMail client of yahoo. That being said, it does display if one uses the web interface of gmail. There isn't a setting to solve this. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3
On 03/07/15 11:38, Lawrence E Graves wrote: I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process. The step you are missing is providing details of the problem. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3
On 03/07/15 11:38, Lawrence E Graves wrote: I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process. Oh And you're also on the wrong list for Fedora 22 -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages
On 03/06/2015 06:07 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/07/15 08:34, jd1008 wrote: I have been having a problem with TB for quite some time, and I am getting rather tired of the problem. Images in messages that are sent to me by users of windows are not displayed in TB. Rather, all I see are empty boxes where images are supposed to be. This is not to say that every message I get from windows users containing images are treated this way by TB. I am just saying that some individuals I know, who use windows, and send me email containing images are treated this way by TB. Is there a setting that I need to set? Other people send me images all the time, and I have no problem viewing them in TB. There really isn't enough information to reasonably come to a conclusion. A windows user doesn't define what mailer they are using and/or MTA. I recall there being issues with older versions of Outlook and the Exchange Server. I would look at the structure of the emails and compare the working ones with the non-working ones. If you can't see what may be causing the problem, you should consider saving the failing email file to a eml file and uploading it for others to examine. OK, I uploaded it to sendspace.com The download link is: https://www.sendspace.com/file/1audkv -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Different behaviour running under strace?
On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 08:33:49 +1100 Cameron Simpson wrote: df / Yep, giving it an argument definitely only look at that one filesystem. I've checked older systems and the -l option really did work once upon a time, avoiding all the stats of everything. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages
On 03/06/2015 06:07 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/07/15 08:34, jd1008 wrote: I have been having a problem with TB for quite some time, and I am getting rather tired of the problem. Images in messages that are sent to me by users of windows are not displayed in TB. Rather, all I see are empty boxes where images are supposed to be. This is not to say that every message I get from windows users containing images are treated this way by TB. I am just saying that some individuals I know, who use windows, and send me email containing images are treated this way by TB. Is there a setting that I need to set? Other people send me images all the time, and I have no problem viewing them in TB. There really isn't enough information to reasonably come to a conclusion. A windows user doesn't define what mailer they are using and/or MTA. I recall there being issues with older versions of Outlook and the Exchange Server. I would look at the structure of the emails and compare the working ones with the non-working ones. If you can't see what may be causing the problem, you should consider saving the failing email file to a eml file and uploading it for others to examine. Will do. Stay tuned. I will upload just such a file. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3
I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process. -- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 6 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3
I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you. On 03/06/2015 08:45 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/07/15 11:38, Lawrence E Graves wrote: I have tried with a dvd and with usb and the only place I got any success in installing Fedora 22 was in my virtual machine. It there something I am missing that is causing this problem with installing on my PC or my laptop. Please advise if there is a step I am missing in the download or the install process. Oh And you're also on the wrong list for Fedora 22 -- All things are workable but don't all things work. Prov. 3:5 6 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Unable to blank dvd/rw media
I have an optiarch CD/DVD/RW drive and Sony RW media. I tried to blank the media: # cdrecord -v blank=all dev=1,0,0 Cdrecord-ProDVD-ProBD-Clone 3.01a15 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2013 Joerg Schilling TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM scsidev: '1,0,0' scsibus: 1 target: 0 lun: 0 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.36 Using libscg version 'schily-0.9'. SCSI buffer size: 64512 atapi: 1 Device type: Removable CD-ROM Version: 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info: 'Optiarc ' Identifikation : 'DVD+-RW AD-7930H' Revision : '100A' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM. Current: DVD-ROM Profile: DVD+R/DL Profile: DVD+R Profile: DVD+RW Profile: DVD-R/DL sequential recording Profile: DVD-RW sequential recording Profile: DVD-RW restricted overwrite Profile: DVD-RAM Profile: DVD-R sequential recording Profile: DVD-ROM (current) Profile: CD-RW Profile: CD-R Profile: CD-ROM Profile: Removable Disk Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW/DVD-RAM driver (mmc_dvd). Driver flags : NO-CD DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO Drive buf size : 1802240 = 1760 KB cdrecord: Warning: Cannot read drive buffer. cdrecord: Warning: The DMA speed test has been skipped. Current Secsize: 2048 WARNING: Phys disk size 857181 differs from rzone size 0! Prerecorded disk? WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 1053788 WARNING: Drive returns zero media size. Using media size from ADIP. Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 8 in real BLANK mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. So, is the RW label on the Sony Media box lying? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
MATE on dual screen, put a panel on secondary screen?
hi all! Experimenting with dual screens on F20 using MATE. Video card is Nvidia 9800GT using Nvidia drivers from rpmfusion: kmod-nvidia.x86_64 1:331.113-1.fc20.5 @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates So, I've got it configured, using the nvidia X-Server Settings tool and it works nicely sofar. But I'd kinda like trying it with a set of panels on the second screen much like (if not identical to) those on the main screen. But so far I've not figured out how to add a panel to the second screen. The context menu (right-click on a panel) for new panel offers no options, it just sticks it on the first screen. I can't drag it, it just seems to want to sit there. Can someone advise me if thereis a way to do what I want? some arcane incantation on the commandline, perhaps? thanks! -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government there will be no end. He will reign on David's throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. --- Isaiah 9:7 (niv) -- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages
On 03/07/15 08:34, jd1008 wrote: I have been having a problem with TB for quite some time, and I am getting rather tired of the problem. Images in messages that are sent to me by users of windows are not displayed in TB. Rather, all I see are empty boxes where images are supposed to be. This is not to say that every message I get from windows users containing images are treated this way by TB. I am just saying that some individuals I know, who use windows, and send me email containing images are treated this way by TB. Is there a setting that I need to set? Other people send me images all the time, and I have no problem viewing them in TB. There really isn't enough information to reasonably come to a conclusion. A windows user doesn't define what mailer they are using and/or MTA. I recall there being issues with older versions of Outlook and the Exchange Server. I would look at the structure of the emails and compare the working ones with the non-working ones. If you can't see what may be causing the problem, you should consider saving the failing email file to a eml file and uploading it for others to examine. -- If you can't laugh at yourself, others will gladly oblige. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsyslog
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 12:04 -0700, Pete Travis wrote: If you're open to typing a different command to access logs, here are a few you might find interesting: Only the other day, I wanted to see what the NTP client, or whatever it is called now, was up to. I couldn't find an easy way to do what would have been grep -i ntp /var/log/message. Sure, I could do that on the output of journalctl, but it takes ages to pour through the amount of data it's kept. No, the man page wasn't particularly enlightening. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.7-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 11 21:16:53 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem booting Fedora 21
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 08:22:04AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 03/06/2015 07:11 AM, Daniel Jonsson wrote: On my laptop, which I am currently on, I have only one drive with the partitions /, /boot, /home and swap. And it boots fine after disabling `nfs-client.target`. can it get to that ntfs-client?? you may need to start that manually after boot.. What do you mean? I am not using NFS, so disabling nfs-client.target should not cause any problems, I assume at least. NTFS is a file system and not related to systemd. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem booting Fedora 21
On 03/06/2015 09:46 AM, Daniel Jonsson wrote: `nfs-client.target`. can it get to that ntfs-client?? you may need to start that manually after boot.. What do you mean? I am not using NFS, so disabling nfs-client.target should not cause any problems, I assume at least. NTFS is a file system and not related to systemd. ack, sorry, I mis-read that... NFS not NTFS.. yes, disable NFS... -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsyslog
On Mar 6, 2015 8:09 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 12:04 -0700, Pete Travis wrote: If you're open to typing a different command to access logs, here are a few you might find interesting: Only the other day, I wanted to see what the NTP client, or whatever it is called now, was up to. I couldn't find an easy way to do what would have been grep -i ntp /var/log/message. Sure, I could do that on the output of journalctl, but it takes ages to pour through the amount of data it's kept. No, the man page wasn't particularly enlightening. -- The default ntp client since Fedora 16 is chrony, the chronyd service. a `journalctl -b|grep ntp ` would probably match some chrony activity, and once you learn from that or documentation what the service is actually called, you can do `journalctl -u chronyd -otherfilters`. Also, just like with less or vim, you can press '/' in parsed log output then type a string to search for. No, the journalctl man page does not tell you about ntp logs, nor do the rsyslog pages explain grep :) --Pete -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora 20: After running yum update the Mate Terminal doesn't start anymore
On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 10:17 -1000, Jim Lewis wrote: Well, I'm still trying to figure out how I can run a command to get a command line from the command line when I don't have a command line. Yes, I spent all night coming up with that :). ;-\ With some desktops ALT+F2 pops up a dialog box to enter a command. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.7-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 11 21:16:53 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Best Way to Handle Packages
On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 16:58 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote: I notice a lot of people mention just using yum/dnf directly, but I'm wondering what people normally use to just check out new packages. If you mean ones we haven't known about before, I've occasionally searched yum for keywords of things that might interest me hoping to find something to do a job. If you mean information about newly released packages (e.g. updates), I'm signed up to the package-announce list. Any time an update is released, I get an email about it. If the email doesn't provide anything particularly descriptive about it (as too many don't), then I can look at the packages website, or do a yum info packagename. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.7-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 11 21:16:53 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: problem playing video DVD
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 22:29 -0700, jd1008 wrote: Rented a DVD movie (the 3rd in the series Atlas Shrugged). It would not play with any media player (such as smplayer, vlc, Dragon Player, xine, totem, ... etc) No errors in /var/log/messages. You haven't said if you've been able to play other discs with the software. I told the vendor, and they stuck it into a machine the tests it for playability. It took 5 seconds and it declared it playable :) :) Whatever Yeah, hardly an exhaustive tests. Some discs won't work in some standard DVD players, never mind computers. So you'd really need to try more than one player before you declare that there's nothing wrong with a disc. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.7-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 11 21:16:53 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem booting Fedora 21
On 03/06/2015 05:28 AM, Daniel Jonsson wrote: The problem is that when I boot either of the computers, it gets stuck during the Plymouth splash screen, when the Fedora logo is being filled up. It can be stuck there for tens of minutes until I lose patience and do a hard reset on the computer. About 1/5 of the boot attempts succeed and are very snappy, while the other 4/5 get stuck and require a hard reset. That same symptom has happened to me, and it always happened after I changed partitions, as in what fstab has in it is wrong one of the partitions is not mountable. once I take out all extra partition info, assuming / /home are mountable, it boots... -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem booting Fedora 21
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 06:20:48AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: That same symptom has happened to me, and it always happened after I changed partitions, as in what fstab has in it is wrong one of the partitions is not mountable. once I take out all extra partition info, assuming / /home are mountable, it boots... On my laptop, which I am currently on, I have only one drive with the partitions /, /boot, /home and swap. And it boots fine after disabling `nfs-client.target`. I think my setup is more or less the same on my desktop with regards to its main drive. However, I know that I have added at least one additional partition to fstab that resides on a secondary drive. If I recall correctly I have added two partitions, one being ext4 and one being ntfs. I will check when I get home. Thanks for the suggestion. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem booting Fedora 21
On 03/06/2015 07:11 AM, Daniel Jonsson wrote: On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 06:20:48AM -0500, Paul Cartwright wrote: That same symptom has happened to me, and it always happened after I changed partitions, as in what fstab has in it is wrong one of the partitions is not mountable. once I take out all extra partition info, assuming / /home are mountable, it boots... On my laptop, which I am currently on, I have only one drive with the partitions /, /boot, /home and swap. And it boots fine after disabling `nfs-client.target`. can it get to that ntfs-client?? you may need to start that manually after boot.. I think my setup is more or less the same on my desktop with regards to its main drive. However, I know that I have added at least one additional partition to fstab that resides on a secondary drive. If I recall correctly I have added two partitions, one being ext4 and one being ntfs. I will check when I get home. Thanks for the suggestion. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Best Way to Handle Packages
Sorry, I meant the former. I used to like going through Smart to see what packages are available, but without the RPM groupings it's harder to do in Yumex (plus Fedora is phasing them out). On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, 2015-03-05 at 16:58 -0500, Kelly Miller wrote: I notice a lot of people mention just using yum/dnf directly, but I'm wondering what people normally use to just check out new packages. If you mean ones we haven't known about before, I've occasionally searched yum for keywords of things that might interest me hoping to find something to do a job. If you mean information about newly released packages (e.g. updates), I'm signed up to the package-announce list. Any time an update is released, I get an email about it. If the email doesn't provide anything particularly descriptive about it (as too many don't), then I can look at the packages website, or do a yum info packagename. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.18.7-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 11 21:16:53 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsyslog
On 03/05/2015 07:28 PM, Dan Irwin wrote: Honestly, most people (as in net/sys admins) don't even use Linux anymore. They use Windows 7 or Macs. Huh? -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Audacity users - quick check - can you open .wav OK ?
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 5:09 AM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote: any of the three methods. The IO settings are ALSA, pulse/pulse. What IO settings do you have ? ALSA, default, sysdefault: Stereo Mix:0 Switch to ALSA, pulse, pulse, and I can still open WAV files just fine, using any of the 3 methods you suggested. -- Ted Roche Ted Roche Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Problem booting Fedora 21
Hi, I'm running Fedora 21 Workstation on a desktop and a laptop, and on both machines I am experiencing problems trying to boot them. The problem is that when I boot either of the computers, it gets stuck during the Plymouth splash screen, when the Fedora logo is being filled up. It can be stuck there for tens of minutes until I lose patience and do a hard reset on the computer. About 1/5 of the boot attempts succeed and are very snappy, while the other 4/5 get stuck and require a hard reset. However, I think I have solved it on the laptop by disabling `nfs-client.target` with `$ sudo systemctl disable nfs-client.target`, and I suspect that it might be related to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1183321. I tried doing the same on my desktop, but it does not seem to have made any difference. It still requires quite a few boot attempts before it reaches the login screen. What I need help with is how I am supposed to proceed with debugging and locating the cause of the problem. As far as I know a journalctl entry is not created in `$ journalctl --list-boots` if I do a hard reset during the startup process. And `$ systemd-analyze` does not show any strange things because I am of course only able to execute it after a successful boot, for example on my laptop: Startup finished in 1.454s (kernel) + 1.412s (initrd) + 2.608s (userspace) = 5.475s Do you have any suggestions for how I am supposed to proceed with the matter? Best regards, Daniel Jonsson -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Audacity users - quick check - can you open .wav OK ?
On 06/03/15 08:38, Ted Roche wrote: On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:07 PM, David Timms dti...@iinet.net.au wrote: ... Audacity 2.0.6 and I'm using a licensed set of encoder/decoders from Fluendo (highly recommended!) Mmm, good. I'm getting ready for packaging the next audacity release, and I'm finding that Audacity hangs indefinitely on trying to open using any of the three methods. The IO settings are ALSA, pulse/pulse. What IO settings do you have ? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem booting Fedora 21
On Friday 06 March 2015 06:20:48 Paul Cartwright wrote: On 03/06/2015 05:28 AM, Daniel Jonsson wrote: The problem is that when I boot either of the computers, it gets stuck during the Plymouth splash screen, when the Fedora logo is being filled up. It can be stuck there for tens of minutes until I lose patience and do a hard reset on the computer. About 1/5 of the boot attempts succeed and are very snappy, while the other 4/5 get stuck and require a hard reset. That same symptom has happened to me, and it always happened after I changed partitions, as in what fstab has in it is wrong one of the partitions is not mountable. once I take out all extra partition info, assuming / /home are mountable, it boots... Have you tried hitting escape whilst waiting for the plymouth boot screen (to view the current boot dialog)? This will allow you to at least see where the boot process is hanging. Regards Andy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Xfce screen lock -
On 03/06/2015 02:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I recently installed Fedora 21 on another computer using the Fedora Xfce spin and have been unable to find a menu item permitting me to stop it from requiring re-entry of my password after several [I haven't counted them] minutes idle. I was able to disable the screen saver but this problem is even more annoying. Certainly there must be a file I can change to fix this? Or perhaps I am not looking at the right settings menu. Any suggestion appreciated. screensaver option/preferences? uncheck the box that says lock screen when screensaver is active -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Best Way to Handle Packages
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Kelly Miller lightsolphoe...@gmail.com wrote: So how do people on this list normally handle package management? I use Yumex. It's fast and it works. -- Steven Rosenberg http://stevenrosenberg.net/blog http://blogs.dailynews.com/click -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Fedora Xfce screen lock -
I recently installed Fedora 21 on another computer using the Fedora Xfce spin and have been unable to find a menu item permitting me to stop it from requiring re-entry of my password after several [I haven't counted them] minutes idle. I was able to disable the screen saver but this problem is even more annoying. Certainly there must be a file I can change to fix this? Or perhaps I am not looking at the right settings menu. Any suggestion appreciated. Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Different behaviour running under strace?
On 05Mar2015 16:52, Tom Horsley horsley1...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 08:27:03 +1100 Cameron Simpson wrote: - _after_ a fast straced df, is un unstraced df slow again? (thinking about cached answers to call, caches in the OS, possibly quite briefly) I was yesterday, but today the strace'ed version hung as well and I was able to find and unmount some slow filesystems. I don't know why df -l even stat()s an NFS mountpoint at all, it could certainly look at /proc/mounts and find the local only filesystems and utterly ignore the network systems, but it apparently doesn't do that (because I certainly see the stat calls when I strace it). Interesting. The RHEL5 host I tested definitely did _not_ statfs() its NFS mounts when invoked with -l. Its df comes from coreutils-5.97. NB: the RHEL5 one reads /etc/mtab (a regular file), not /proc/mounts. Judging from the strace it gathers all the info first, then formats it for output, so when it hangs, it prints nothing. Charming. Sounds buggy to me. [...] Ok, fetched coreutils 5.97 (RHEL5 version) and 8.23 (latest version). This diff in df.c is huge, so let's just look at the 8.23 version, which should be close to if not identical with Fedora. The get_dev() call honours the -l flag, returning immediately without work if the -l is supplied. HOWEVER, the caller, filter_mount_list(), stat()s _every_ mount point regardless. That will be where your slowness is come from. There's even a comment near the top of filter_mount_list suggesting that they know it does excessive work. So, yes, modern GNU df unconditionally stat()s all your mounted filesystems. Suggestion: see if this: df / stats only /. Repeat for other local filesystems as a test. Then write a tiny shell script for df -l that reads /etc/mtab and reports only non-NFS mounts. Cheers, Cameron Simpson c...@zip.com.au Share your knowledge. It is a way to achieve immortality. - The Dalai Lama -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Xfce screen lock -
On 03/06/15 15:44, Joe Zeff wrote: Yes that's a good source. I subscribed to it in the past and found it helpful but XFCE usually works without a hitch and I needed to reduce some of the e-mail messages I was getting. Please take another look at the link. It's not a mailing list, it's a web forum. (Notice the word forum in the url?) I don't know if he's still active, but for a long time one of the Xfce Core Developers was a regular there. Sorry, I misread that, I saw what I was familiar with rather than what was written. I'll make a note of it but I usually choose mailing lists where available, my preference I guess. -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Xfce screen lock -
On 03/06/2015 01:49 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Sorry, I misread that, I saw what I was familiar with rather than what was written. I'll make a note of it but I usually choose mailing lists where available, my preference I guess. *Shrug!* I use both, being a regular on two Fedora forums as well as this mailing list. Each has its advantages and disadvantages. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: rsyslog
HI On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Glenn Holmer wrote: On 03/05/2015 07:28 PM, Dan Irwin wrote: Honestly, most people (as in net/sys admins) don't even use Linux anymore. They use Windows 7 or Macs. He probably means that they are using Mac or Windows to manage Linux servers remotely. This has been a common pattern all along for some folks and not a recent change however Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Xfce screen lock -
On 03/06/15 15:25, Paul Cartwright wrote: On 03/06/2015 02:58 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: I recently installed Fedora 21 on another computer using the Fedora Xfce spin and have been unable to find a menu item permitting me to stop it from requiring re-entry of my password after several [I haven't counted them] minutes idle. I was able to disable the screen saver but this problem is even more annoying. Certainly there must be a file I can change to fix this? Or perhaps I am not looking at the right settings menu. Any suggestion appreciated. screensaver option/preferences? uncheck the box that says lock screen when screensaver is active OK, that does it. I couldn't see that item since it is grayed out when you select disable. I changed that to Blank screen and was able to disable the lock screen, or at least I checked the box. Thank you. Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Xfce screen lock -
On 03/06/2015 11:58 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Certainly there must be a file I can change to fix this? Or perhaps I am not looking at the right settings menu. Any suggestion appreciated. You might also ask at the official Xfce forum, http://forum.xfce.org and see what they have to say. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Xfce screen lock -
On 03/06/15 15:33, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/06/2015 11:58 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Certainly there must be a file I can change to fix this? Or perhaps I am not looking at the right settings menu. Any suggestion appreciated. You might also ask at the official Xfce forum, http://forum.xfce.org and see what they have to say. Yes that's a good source. I subscribed to it in the past and found it helpful but XFCE usually works without a hitch and I needed to reduce some of the e-mail messages I was getting. I found the right menu item after Paul's message, I didn't see the gay text item. Sorry for the noise. Tnx, Bob -- http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD box10 Fedora-21/64bit Linux/XFCE -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Fedora Xfce screen lock -
On 03/06/2015 12:39 PM, Bob Goodwin wrote: On 03/06/15 15:33, Joe Zeff wrote: On 03/06/2015 11:58 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote: Certainly there must be a file I can change to fix this? Or perhaps I am not looking at the right settings menu. Any suggestion appreciated. You might also ask at the official Xfce forum, http://forum.xfce.org and see what they have to say. Yes that's a good source. I subscribed to it in the past and found it helpful but XFCE usually works without a hitch and I needed to reduce some of the e-mail messages I was getting. Please take another look at the link. It's not a mailing list, it's a web forum. (Notice the word forum in the url?) I don't know if he's still active, but for a long time one of the Xfce Core Developers was a regular there. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Unable to blank dvd/rw media
On Fri, 2015-03-06 at 19:18 -0700, jd1008 wrote: I have an optiarch CD/DVD/RW drive and Sony RW media. I tried to blank the media: [snip] Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 8 in real BLANK mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write0 seconds. Operation starts. This drive or media does not support the 'BLANK media' command cdrecord: Cannot blank disk, aborting. So, is the RW label on the Sony Media box lying? I don't think it's lying, it's just that Sony isn't particularly known for high quality optical media. Check the country of origin. If it's India, Malaysia or China the problem is probably the media, particularly if it's been sitting around for awhile. If it was made in Japan or Taiwan, however, I'd continue troubleshooting. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Thunderbird does not display images in email messages
On 03/06/2015 08:34 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 03/07/15 09:22, jd1008 wrote: OK, I uploaded it to sendspace.com The download link is: https://www.sendspace.com/file/1audkv The images are there, at least in my T-Bird, if I scroll all down to the bottom. They are not displayed within the message with the text to describe the image since the message is poorly constructed by what appears to be a JavaMail client of yahoo. That being said, it does display if one uses the web interface of gmail. There isn't a setting to solve this. there is no setting that can correct gmail. i can view them also. i believe i took things a little further than what you may have. 1st, i closed thunderbird, then i copied the file into a temp directory and removed removed the .eml. next, i edited the file and added From - Fri Mar 07 00:00:00 2015 to top line of file. i could have edited out all the gmail html crap, but i left it to see how it would view in the 2 html modes of thunderbird, which did not align text with pix. the pix are not in order of the descriptions, which i would contribute to gmail. over all some interesting shots. -- peace out. in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 8:54 PM, Lawrence E Graves lgrave...@gmail.com wrote: I am sorry. My bag. It won't install what else can I say. If it won't install there is nothing to tell or show you. Try test@ list please. There is an absolute minimum of 5 clicks to do a Fedora installation, generally there's quite a few more. There are distinctly two partitioning paths, automatic and custom (manual), you haven't said which of those you used, what error messages you received, the nature of the failure. So instead of saying what hasn't happened, state what has happened with particular emphasis on the exact thing you did that behaved contrary to your expectations and why you expected it to behave differently. Someone must be able to follow your steps and reproduce the problem, so you need to be able to articulate the steps you've taken. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Problem installing Fedora 22 Alpha RC3
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 9:35 PM, Chris Murphy li...@colorremedies.com wrote: There is an absolute minimum of 5 clicks to do a Fedora installation, Correction, 7. Root password Quit/Reboot. -- Chris Murphy -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Is systemd failing to wait for USB now?
On 05.03.2015, Tom Horsley wrote: Is anyone else getting random USB failures at boot? I'm using an APC UPS as well, and a USB mouse and keyboard. Have not encountered a single problem yet. F21, fully updated. [root@chiara ~]# lsusb Bus 004 Device 002: ID 8087:8001 Intel Corp. Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:8009 Intel Corp. Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 002 Device 004: ID 174c:5106 ASMedia Technology Inc. Transcend StoreJet 25M3 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 006: ID 04b4:0101 Cypress Semiconductor Corp. Keyboard/Hub Bus 001 Device 005: ID 1038:137a SteelSeries ApS Bus 001 Device 004: ID 051d:0002 American Power Conversion Uninterruptible Power Supply Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub [root@chiara ~]# uname -a Linux chiara.fritha.org 3.19.1-rc1-bfq #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 5 08:47:53 CET 2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
