Re: systemd and chkconfig and change [was Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?]
... Other parts are actually really cool, like management of services throughout their whole lifetime, relevant log messages automatically shown for systemctl status, I am personally convinced that journalctl and its binary logs are one of the big systemd mistakes. And that grep/awk/sed/... over classical text logs always will be more poverfull than systemd journal stuff. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd and chkconfig and change [was Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?]
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 09:30:35AM +0200, Jon Ingason wrote: Den 2015-05-06 08:55, fra...@hanzlici.cz skrev: ... Other parts are actually really cool, like management of services throughout their whole lifetime, relevant log messages automatically shown for systemctl status, I am personally convinced that journalctl and its binary logs are one of the big systemd mistakes. And that grep/awk/sed/... over classical text logs always will be more poverfull than systemd journal stuff. You can still use grep/awk/sed/... :-) That is a deceptive similarity. I find journalctl output too verbose at times. Also it can just be a lot in terms of quantity (how far back the logs go). Under such circumstances, using the old methods can be bit of a chore. One would then say filter the output of journalctl (or rotate the journal)! But the documentation for that is in such a terrible state, as in very hard to comprehend for someone not familiar with internal details, it's almost funny. See this message for a rather egregious example: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general/440292/focus=440647 The rest of the thread is also very instructive. One of these days if I find some time, I'll file a bug report for documentation. But if someone else wants to, please go ahead. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failed systemctl services?
On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:48:46PM -0700, stan wrote: Those were interesting reads. It seems the infrastructure is in place to deal with the problem of service failure, but operational inertia is slowing adoption. In other words, just a normal human system. :-) The one thing I didn't see addressed was the comment requesting some notification if a service became a chronic (ab)user of the restart feature, so remedial action could be taken or requested. Well, it's logged but, yeah. In general, we don't have a standard, integrated monitoring/alerting service for Fedora, except for desktop notifications, which aren't ideal for many cases. (Like, basically anything but a single-user desktop.) Working on fixing this would be an interesting project — maybe under Fedora Server... Well, system mail daemon did that job pretty well. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Copr hosting?
On Tue, 05 May 2015 23:30:48 +0100, R Mercado wrote: I am interested in copr to create a repository where I intend to provide a fixed version of a program on Fedora 21 using fixes available upstream. https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/kiso49j/shotwell/ So, something's wrong with Fedora's shotwell package, and instead of fix it you want to introduce a repository to publish inofficial packages? It would be much more interesting and helpful to consider becoming a co-maintainer of shotwell at Fedora. There are many packages where the existing maintainer doesn't reject help/contributions. * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Category:Package_Maintainers * https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_get_sponsored_into_the_packager_group -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd and chkconfig and change [was Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?]
On Wed, 06 May 2015 09:30:35 +0200 Jon Ingason wrote: You can still use grep/awk/sed/... :-) Not if the binary files get corrupted. Most of the time, you can't even boot when that happens :-( -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: systemd and chkconfig and change [was Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?]
Den 2015-05-06 08:55, fra...@hanzlici.cz skrev: ... Other parts are actually really cool, like management of services throughout their whole lifetime, relevant log messages automatically shown for systemctl status, I am personally convinced that journalctl and its binary logs are one of the big systemd mistakes. And that grep/awk/sed/... over classical text logs always will be more poverfull than systemd journal stuff. You can still use grep/awk/sed/... :-) -- Regards Jon Ingason -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?
On Tue, 2015-05-05 at 16:07 -0400, Rahul Sundaram wrote: gkrellm isn't necessarily counting background services. The real number of background services can be found out using systemctl --type=service. In my system I see 67. In any case, I wouldn't worry about number of processes unless you have a performance problem. Or a security concern... Some people install everything under the sun, and you really don't want a telnet server running. -- tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 3.19.5-100.fc20.i686 #1 SMP Mon Apr 20 20:28:39 UTC 2015 i686 All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is no point trying to privately email me, I will only read messages posted to the public lists. George Orwell's '1984' was supposed to be a warning against tyranny, not a set of instructions for supposedly democratic governments. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failed systemctl services?
On 6 May 2015 at 11:52, Suvayu Ali wrote: Date sent: Wed, 6 May 2015 11:52:44 +0200 From: Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Subject:Re: failed systemctl services? Send reply to: Community support for Fedora users users@lists.fedoraproject.org mailto:users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=unsubscribe mailto:users-requ...@lists.fedoraproject.org?subject=subscribe On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 04:09:32PM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Mon, May 04, 2015 at 12:48:46PM -0700, stan wrote: Those were interesting reads. It seems the infrastructure is in place to deal with the problem of service failure, but operational inertia is slowing adoption. In other words, just a normal human system. :-) The one thing I didn't see addressed was the comment requesting some notification if a service became a chronic (ab)user of the restart feature, so remedial action could be taken or requested. Well, it's logged but, yeah. In general, we don't have a standard, integrated monitoring/alerting service for Fedora, except for desktop notifications, which aren't ideal for many cases. (Like, basically anything but a single-user desktop.) Working on fixing this would be an interesting project — maybe under Fedora Server... Well, system mail daemon did that job pretty well. For a test, I made a little script fixsystemctl in /etc/cron.hourly chksystemctl=`systemctl --state=failed | grep failed | cut -f 2 -d\ ` if [ -n $chksystemctl ] ; then date /var/log/chksystemctl echo $chksystemctl /var/log/chksystemctl systemctl restart $chksystemctl fi Been running it on 20 machines for about 24 hours, and generally each machine has a couple of items in the file, but a few still had the file empty. -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) BOINC@HOME CREDITS ROSETTA 29019923.147768 | SETI51036191.422589 ABC 16613838.513356 | EINSTEIN59904806.509700 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?
On 5 May 2015 at 19:57, Antonio Olivares wingat...@inbox.com wrote: Well, I'd count the systemd and docker don't work together well bit with some degree of skepticism. But, on the larger point: Fedora doesn't strive to be bleeding edge. We strive to be the first to offer the newest and best of _functional_ open source software. And that's a hard balance to get right — sometimes, eager contributors and developers get things into Fedora that _aren't_ quite ready. Other times, we're too conservative. But I also don't see systemd as a crux of this. Another hot new minimal startup distribution, CoreOS, is _based around_ systemd. In any case, the Fedora.next initiative http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora.next is an attempt to work on this balance in new and different ways, with Fedora Cloud in particular being a space for experimenting with some of these new concepts (as that's sort of the incubation space for new OS technologies in the world at large right now). Debian-- Devuan Fedora -- Fedoruan? If you're interested in exploring a remix like that, see https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix (although note that Fedoruan is probably not acceptable with our trademark guidelines). I do not know where I had seen CoreOS? Maybe I confused it with Tiny Core? At distrowatch, I had seen a distro based on Fedora http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20150427 http://chapeaulinux.org/ I am surprised that it has not gotten more coverage? It is a Fedora Remix too! , like old Fedora Remix by Rahul and one by Valent Turkovic. No, this is CoreOS https://coreos.com/ see e.g. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/05/05/coreos_fest_roundtable/ -- imalone http://ibmalone.blogspot.co.uk -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: partitioning new machine
On 05/06/2015 09:08 AM, Neal Becker wrote: Last time, I setup 1 big 1TB btrfs partition. I'd like to do a re-install for f22, and I'm wishing now I had my home on it's own partition - since now I need to backup and restore my home (about 165GB). Or perhaps there is another way? shrink the 1TB btrfs partition, create a new one for /home, and copy? How could I do that, and could I do it online, or only from some rescue USB? (/home is on the same single partition as /). I always create separate / /home partitions.. I went from 30GB to 50GB for /, 30 was getting 75% full after a while.. I always seem to be adding things:) I have 1 /home and 4 separate '/ partitions for different OSes.. -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: failed systemctl services?
On Wed, May 06, 2015 at 11:52:44AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: Well, it's logged but, yeah. In general, we don't have a standard, integrated monitoring/alerting service for Fedora, except for desktop notifications, which aren't ideal for many cases. (Like, basically anything but a single-user desktop.) Working on fixing this would be an interesting project — maybe under Fedora Server... Well, system mail daemon did that job pretty well. It did in some cases. However, the tools haven't kept up. Logwatch has effectively been a dead project for a decade, and epylog, designed as a more modern, smarter replacement, hasn't seen motion for years either. Additionally, mail-based reporting like this works fine for a handful of servers, but at least in my experience does not scale to dozens, let alone the hundreds a Linux sysadmin may be asked to manage these days. And, for home use, there's the problem that sending mail from a consumer broadband provider's network is unlikely to work without special configuration, and may be discarded as spam even then. -- Matthew Miller mat...@fedoraproject.org Fedora Project Leader -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: trying to install android studio
- Original Message - From: William Biggs b...@kc8pdr.com To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:18:20 PM Subject: trying to install android studio I'm trying to install android studio . But it needs java . I try to install openjdk .But it keeps asking for java . Can some tell me how to install the simple way to install java and jdk in fedora 21 64bit ? You may also want to check out https://copr.fedoraproject.org/coprs/phracek/android-studio/ which has packages for Android Studio 135 (not quite the latest version yet, but he's working on that). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F21: why Fedora still has not alternative init?
Hi On Wed, May 6, 2015 at 2:24 AM, Tim wrote: Or a security concern... Some people install everything under the sun, and you really don't want a telnet server running. Unlike say Debian, Fedora does not default to running services just because a package is installed. There are very few exceptions to that guideline and it has to be explicitly approved by the packaging committee. The default services are listed here. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Starting_services_by_default If you find anything else running by default, that is a bug. Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
can anaconda install into a btrfs subvolume?
actually, I have / and /home on 2 different btrfs subvolumes: == /etc/fstab UUID=7246327b-1905-4fe2-9b6b-b9376017264f / btrfs subvol=root 1 1 UUID=2c04be93-34c1-4016-ba41-60fd9fd90616 /boot ext4 defaults1 2 UUID=7246327b-1905-4fe2-9b6b-b9376017264f /home btrfs subvol=home 1 2 UUID=e663c7fd-f321-45af-b643-30623ebfbc44 swapswap defaults0 0 UUID=e8f2dae0-e764-45f1-a7b3-575b45a5cb4f swapswap defaults0 0 === If I want to clean-install f22, can I tell anaconda to install into subvol=root of my existing btrfs volume (leaving /home subvol intact)?? -- Those who fail to understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
partitioning new machine
Actually, re-partioning old machine. Last time, I setup 1 big 1TB btrfs partition. I'd like to do a re-install for f22, and I'm wishing now I had my home on it's own partition - since now I need to backup and restore my home (about 165GB). Or perhaps there is another way? shrink the 1TB btrfs partition, create a new one for /home, and copy? How could I do that, and could I do it online, or only from some rescue USB? (/home is on the same single partition as /). -- Those who fail to understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
javascript that is autoloaded and executed by Firefox
Safe Browsing /Diagnostic page for/googleusercontent.com *What is the current listing status for googleusercontent.com?* This site is not currently listed as suspicious. *What happened when Google visited this site?* Of the 1866724 pages we tested on the site over the past 90 days, 5271 page(s) resulted in malicious software being downloaded and installed without user consent. The last time Google visited this site was on 2015-05-06, and the last time suspicious content was found on this site was on 2015-05-06. Malicious software includes 35571 trojan(s), 30826 exploit(s), 1773 scripting exploit(s). Malicious software is hosted on 8 domain(s), including douglas.de/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=douglas.de/, google.com/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=google.com/, douglas.ch/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=douglas.ch/. This site was hosted on 1 network(s) including AS15169 (GOOGLE) http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=AS:15169. *Has this site acted as an intermediary resulting in further distribution of malware?* Over the past 90 days, googleusercontent.com appeared to function as an intermediary for the infection of 4 site(s) including startbusinesscoaching.com.au/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=startbusinesscoaching.com.au/, crpcoutreach.blogspot.com/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=crpcoutreach.blogspot.com/, businesscoachinstitute.com.au/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=businesscoachinstitute.com.au/. *Has this site hosted malware?* Yes, this site has hosted malicious software over the past 90 days. It infected 3999 domain(s), including googleapis.com/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=googleapis.com/, v4download.com/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=v4download.com/, vfastdownload.com/ http://www.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=vfastdownload.com/. == *So, it is not currecntly suspicious??? It installs malware, and it is not currently considered as suspicious??? WTF??? What's worse, is that https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/googleusercontent.com consideres it's trustworthiness as excellent. * -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SV: Re: partitioning new machine
Look at your current fstab. Are there lines for / and /home? Do they use the subvol mount option? Sendt fra min Sony Xperia™-smarttelefon Neal Becker skrev birger wrote: With btrfs you create subvolumes within the same master volume. The default is to have separate subvolumes for / and /home. When doing a new install you can create a new / with a new subvolume name within the same btrfs file system. rootfs-22 instead of just root for example. That way you can mount your old / as a subdirectory while moving over all your config to the new /, and you can keep the same /home. When you are done, delete the old / subvolume and you get your space back without any repartitioning. look at the subvol=XXX in /etc/fstab perfect, so I should be able to do this through Anaconda, correct? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Copr hosting?
Dear Matthew and Rahul, Thanks for the replies. I realised today that the src.rpm can go into a public folder in dropbox. I will attempt to point copr there. RM -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Copr hosting?
Dear Michael, Thanks for the reply. Indeed there are bugs in shotwell 0.20.2-2 that have been solved upstream. I guess those fixes are in Fedora 22 already, not so in Fedora 21. I don't mind publishing something once I'm satisfied. RM -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox Thumbnails
On 05/06/2015 02:26 PM, Bill Oliver wrote: On Wed, 6 May 2015, jd1008 wrote: FF does not seem to have a setting that disables/enables display of thumbnails from browsing history. Has anyone figured out how to do this? If you mean the tiles, you can turn that off by clicking on the little gear-looking thing in the upper right corner next to What is this page? You can then choose Blank. billo Thanx Bill. That did it. Cheers, JD -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Firefox Thumbnails
On Wed, 6 May 2015, jd1008 wrote: FF does not seem to have a setting that disables/enables display of thumbnails from browsing history. Has anyone figured out how to do this? If you mean the tiles, you can turn that off by clicking on the little gear-looking thing in the upper right corner next to What is this page? You can then choose Blank. billo -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Firefox Thumbnails
FF does not seem to have a setting that disables/enables display of thumbnails from browsing history. Has anyone figured out how to do this? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SV: can anaconda install into a btrfs subvolume?
You can destroy the old subvol in anaconda and install to a brand new one. Or install to a new one and keep the old until you know you can delete it. Yes, you can keep /home. Of course a backup is always wise. Sendt fra min Sony Xperia™-smarttelefon Neal Becker skrev actually, I have / and /home on 2 different btrfs subvolumes: == /etc/fstab UUID=7246327b-1905-4fe2-9b6b-b9376017264f / btrfs subvol=root 1 1 UUID=2c04be93-34c1-4016-ba41-60fd9fd90616 /boot ext4 defaults1 2 UUID=7246327b-1905-4fe2-9b6b-b9376017264f /home btrfs subvol=home 1 2 UUID=e663c7fd-f321-45af-b643-30623ebfbc44 swapswap defaults0 0 UUID=e8f2dae0-e764-45f1-a7b3-575b45a5cb4f swapswap defaults0 0 === If I want to clean-install f22, can I tell anaconda to install into subvol=root of my existing btrfs volume (leaving /home subvol intact)?? -- Those who fail to understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: SV: Re: partitioning new machine
birger wrote: Look at your current fstab. Are there lines for / and /home? Do they use the subvol mount option? Yes they do. My question is, does the f22 installer know how to install into a btrfs subvol? What is the procedure? Do I need to create the new root22 subvol before running the installer? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: partitioning new machine
birger wrote: With btrfs you create subvolumes within the same master volume. The default is to have separate subvolumes for / and /home. When doing a new install you can create a new / with a new subvolume name within the same btrfs file system. rootfs-22 instead of just root for example. That way you can mount your old / as a subdirectory while moving over all your config to the new /, and you can keep the same /home. When you are done, delete the old / subvolume and you get your space back without any repartitioning. look at the subvol=XXX in /etc/fstab perfect, so I should be able to do this through Anaconda, correct? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: partitioning new machine
With btrfs you create subvolumes within the same master volume. The default is to have separate subvolumes for / and /home. When doing a new install you can create a new / with a new subvolume name within the same btrfs file system. rootfs-22 instead of just root for example. That way you can mount your old / as a subdirectory while moving over all your config to the new /, and you can keep the same /home. When you are done, delete the old / subvolume and you get your space back without any repartitioning. look at the subvol=XXX in /etc/fstab If you want to back up and restore individual subvolumes, look at the btrfs send and btrfs receive commands. on., 06.05.2015 kl. 09.08 -0400, skrev Neal Becker: Actually, re-partioning old machine. Last time, I setup 1 big 1TB btrfs partition. I'd like to do a re -install for f22, and I'm wishing now I had my home on it's own partition - since now I need to backup and restore my home (about 165GB). Or perhaps there is another way? shrink the 1TB btrfs partition, create a new one for /home, and copy? How could I do that, and could I do it online, or only from some rescue USB? (/home is on the same single partition as /). -- Those who fail to understand recursion are doomed to repeat it -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
