Re: [389-users] password encryption imponrting issue
Dear list, We have master-master replication setup. We have migrate openldap to 389-ds. In openldap, password encryption type was md5, ssha, sha etc. When we import openldap database to 389-ds. Data imported successfully. But some user can login because tbey are using md5 encryption method. some users cannot login because they are using ssha,sha encryption method. Please suggest how can we manage imported ssha,sha encryption method in 389-ds. On 12 August 2015 at 10:00, vinay garg vinay.g...@fosteringlinux.com wrote: Dear list, We have master-master replication setup. We have migrate openldap to 389-ds. In openldap, password encryption type was md5, ssha, sha etc. When we import openldap database to 389-ds. Data imported succesfully. But some user can login because tbey are using md5 encryption method. some users cannot login because they are using ssha,sha encryption method. Please suggest how can we manage imported ssha,sha encryption method in 389-ds. -- *RegardsVinay Garg* *Keen Able Comp. Pvt. ltd.* *9990770734* -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 16:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 16:17, Christopher Ross wrote: So if your glib statement The answer you seek is in the man pages. is true I cannot find it. man -K EnvironmentFile takes you first directly to SYSTEMD.EXEC(5). Where you type /EnvironmentFile which brings you to the definition of EnvironmentFile= and includes the following in the second paragraph. Konsole output The argument passed should be an absolute filename or wildcard expression, optionally prefixed with -, which indicates that if the file does not exist, it will not be read and no error or warning message is logged. This option may be specified more than once in which case all specified files are read. If the empty string is assigned to this option, the list of file to read is reset, all prior assignments have no effect. Which answer the question So, what's with the hyphen after = ?? Except that: grep =- /usr/lib/systemd/*/* throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word EnvironmentFile. IOW this syntax is not specific to that word, so the fact that you found it with man -K EnvironmentFile is merely a lucky guess. If you had done the above grep first, you most likely would not have thought of it (as I didn't). I still await some identification of where the general rule is specified. This is *not* good documentation. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 16:30 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 16:17, Christopher Ross wrote: So if your glib statement The answer you seek is in the man pages. is true I cannot find it. man -K EnvironmentFile takes you first directly to SYSTEMD.EXEC(5). Where you type /EnvironmentFile which brings you to the definition of EnvironmentFile= and includes the following in the second paragraph. Konsole output The argument passed should be an absolute filename or wildcard expression, optionally prefixed with -, which indicates that if the file does not exist, it will not be read and no error or warning message is logged. This option may be specified more than once in which case all specified files are read. If the empty string is assigned to this option, the list of file to read is reset, all prior assignments have no effect. Which answer the question So, what's with the hyphen after = ?? Except that: grep =- /usr/lib/systemd/*/* throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word EnvironmentFile. IOW this syntax is not specific to that word, so the fact that you found it with man -K EnvironmentFile is merely a lucky guess. If you had done the above grep first, you most likely would not have thought of it (as I didn't). I still await some identification of where the general rule is specified. This is *not* good documentation. The question was... So, what's with the hyphen after = ?? in relationship to files in /usr/lib/systemd/system/irda.service containing EnvironmentFile= and 2 examples were given. In order to answer the question I would not have used grep since there is no need to do that as the question was well worded and succinct. If the answer given in the man page isn't sufficient for *your* needs then you need to ask another question. And, FWIW, grep =- /usr/lib/systemd/system/* | grep EnvironmentFile produces many entries such as... /usr/lib/systemd/system/ypbind.service:EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/network /usr/lib/systemd/system/ypbind.service:EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/ypbind On my systemso I'm not sure why you don't see that. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 13/08/15 08:52, Christopher Ross wrote: On 13/08/15 01:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 08:01, Ed Greshko wrote: Being that it was a very specific question the 2 words were easy to divine. And, if I had my coffee, I probably would have used -K and a single word before resorting to google. Recalling, again, this to have been a very specific question with a very unique word. I salute your google-fu! It is not at all obvious to me. The Question is what is the EnviromentFile and what does =- mean within it... root@snoopy 08:46:58 ~ # apropos =- =-: nothing appropriate. root@snoopy 08:47:06 ~ # apropos EnvironmentFile EnvironmentFile: nothing appropriate. root@snoopy 08:50:12 ~ # apropos systemd | wc -l 155 Continuing that search then... root@snoopy 08:50:25 ~ # apropos systemd | grep environment systemd-detect-virt (1) - Detect execution in a virtualized environment systemd.exec (5) - Execution environment configuration root@snoopy 08:53:31 ~ # man systemd.exec ... EnvironmentFile= Similar to Environment= but reads the environment variables from a text file. The text file should contain new-line-separated variable assignments. Empty lines and lines starting with ; or # will be ignored, which may be used for commenting. A line ending with a backslash will be concatenated with the following one, allowing multiline variable definitions. The parser strips leading and trailing whitespace from the values of assignments, unless you use double quotes (). So that's part of the question answered. The above manpage also says See environ(7) for details about environment variables. root@snoopy 09:07:33 ~ # man 7 environ Unfortunately that man page makes no reference to =- or similar root@snoopy 09:13:06 ~ # man bash Neither does the bash manpage. So if your glib statement The answer you seek is in the man pages. is true I cannot find it. My guess is that the OP example /usr/lib/systemd/system/irda.service:EnvironmentFile=-/etc/sysconfig/irda /usr/lib/systemd/system/sshd.service:EnvironmentFile=/etc/sysconfig/sshd In effect means don't use that, use this but I haven't confirmed that from the man page. Regards, Chris R. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 16:17, Christopher Ross wrote: So if your glib statement The answer you seek is in the man pages. is true I cannot find it. man -K EnvironmentFile takes you first directly to SYSTEMD.EXEC(5). Where you type /EnvironmentFile which brings you to the definition of EnvironmentFile= and includes the following in the second paragraph. Konsole output The argument passed should be an absolute filename or wildcard expression, optionally prefixed with -, which indicates that if the file does not exist, it will not be read and no error or warning message is logged. This option may be specified more than once in which case all specified files are read. If the empty string is assigned to this option, the list of file to read is reset, all prior assignments have no effect. Which answer the question So, what's with the hyphen after = ?? -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word EnvironmentFile. Oh, I think I parsed your statement wrong. I should have read it as more than EnvironmentFile contains that syntax such as ExecStartPre. But that then results in a different question which can be answer in the same manner which results in finding the same man page and the following output ExecStartPre=, ExecStartPost= Additional commands that are executed before or after the command in ExecStart=, respectively. Syntax is the same as for ExecStart=, except that multiple command lines are allowed and the commands are executed one after the other, serially. If any of those commands (not prefixed with -) fail, the rest are not executed and the unit is considered failed. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Does DNF use yum.repo.d?
On Wed, 12 Aug 2015 19:05:29 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/12/2015 06:53 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 06:49, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Where does dnf keep its repo configuration, or does it use /etc/yum.repo.d? Which I see is still there. As I want to change it to use my local repos. http://dnf.readthedocs.org/en/latest/conf_ref.html thanks. My search foo was weak, and I was not finding this. It also, partially, answers how to set deltarpm=0. More reading needed. Searching in the manual page would have lead to something. Else, simple testing (such as deleting/moving a file in there). $ rpm -qd dnf /usr/share/doc/dnf/AUTHORS /usr/share/doc/dnf/COPYING /usr/share/doc/dnf/PACKAGE-LICENSING /usr/share/doc/dnf/README.rst /usr/share/man/man8/dnf.8.gz /usr/share/man/man8/yum2dnf.8.gz $ man dnf|grep -A2 FILES CONFIGURATION FILES REPLACEMENT POLICY The updated packages could replace the old modified configuration files with the new ones or keep the older files. Neither of the files are -- FILES /var/cache/dnf /etc/dnf/dnf.conf /etc/yum.repos.d/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 16:30, Ed Greshko wrote: Konsole output The konsole5 bug bites again. That should not have been included in the paste... -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I still await some identification of where the general rule is specified. Maybe you will wait forever on that question, which wasn't asked until now. And which I missed as the *not* in the next sentence shows as bold in T-Bird and it drew my eyes away. I say I think you will wait forever since it is very possible that particular question is not addressed in documentation as it very well may be specific to the context in which it is being used. Which could be why in the 2 parameters using it the man page describes the meaning for each. But, this is getting off topic. The original question was asked/answered and now I think this is being taken into the realm of the documentation is not good which, as shown in the past, just leads to an unproductive discussion. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 13/08/15 01:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 08:01, Ed Greshko wrote: Being that it was a very specific question the 2 words were easy to divine. And, if I had my coffee, I probably would have used -K and a single word before resorting to google. Recalling, again, this to have been a very specific question with a very unique word. I salute your google-fu! It is not at all obvious to me. The Question is what is the EnviromentFile and what does =- mean within it... root@snoopy 08:46:58 ~ # apropos =- =-: nothing appropriate. root@snoopy 08:47:06 ~ # apropos EnvironmentFile EnvironmentFile: nothing appropriate. root@snoopy 08:50:12 ~ # apropos systemd | wc -l 155 Regards, Chris R. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 15:52, Christopher Ross wrote: On 13/08/15 01:42, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 08:01, Ed Greshko wrote: Being that it was a very specific question the 2 words were easy to divine. And, if I had my coffee, I probably would have used -K and a single word before resorting to google. Recalling, again, this to have been a very specific question with a very unique word. I salute your google-fu! It is not at all obvious to me. The Question is what is the EnviromentFile and what does =- mean within it... root@snoopy 08:46:58 ~ # apropos =- =-: nothing appropriate. root@snoopy 08:47:06 ~ # apropos EnvironmentFile EnvironmentFile: nothing appropriate. root@snoopy 08:50:12 ~ # apropos systemd | wc -l 155 You are using the wrong command. There is no -K in apropos. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
[Slightly OT] The Linux Vendor Firmware Project needs 15 minutes of your time
Hi all, For the LVFS project, I need vendors making hardware to submit firmware files with carefully written metadata so that they can be downloaded in Fedora 23 securely and automatically. I also need those vendors to either use a standardized flashing protocol (e.g. DFU or UEFI) or to open the device specifications enough to allow flashing firmware without signing an NDA. Over the last couple of months I’ve been emailing various tech companies trying to get hold of the right people to implement this. So far the reaction from companies has been enthusiastic and apathetic in equal measures. I’ve had a few vendors testing the process, but I can’t share those names just yet as most companies have been testing with unreleased hardware. This is where you come in. On your Linux computer right now, think about what hardware you own that works in Linux that you know has user-flashable firmware? What about your BIOS, your mouse, or your USB3 hub? Your network card, your RAID card, or your video card? Things I want you to do: * Find the vendor on the internet, and either raise a support case or send an email. Try and find a technical contact, not just some sales or marketing person * Tell the vendor that you would like firmware updates when using Linux, and that you’re not able to update the firmware booting to Windows or OS-X * Tell the vendor that you’re more likely to buy from them again if firmware updates work on Linux * Inform the vendor about the LVFS project : https://beta-lvfs.rhcloud.com/ At all times I need you to be polite and courteous, after all we’re asking the vendor to spend time (money) on doing something extra for a small fraction of their userbase. Ignoring one email from me is easy, but getting tens or hundreds of support tickets about the same issue is a great way to get an issue escalated up to the people that can actually make changes. So please, spend 15 minutes opening a support ticket or sending an email to a vendor now. Happy to take questions or comments, thanks. Richard. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 18:24 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 18:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 17:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word EnvironmentFile. Oh, I think I parsed your statement wrong. I should have read it as more than EnvironmentFile contains that syntax such as ExecStartPre. But that then results in a different question which can be answer in the same manner which results in finding the same man page and the following output ExecStartPre=, ExecStartPost= Additional commands that are executed before or after the command in ExecStart=, respectively. Syntax is the same as for ExecStart=, except that multiple command lines are allowed and the commands are executed one after the other, serially. If any of those commands (not prefixed with -) fail, the rest are not executed and the unit is considered failed. You can argue that if you like, but my point is that on seeing the examples the natural conclusion is that here is some new syntax I don't know about, so let me look in the systemd docs for some explanation. The fact that it's only documented in specific examples makes it much harder to find. I don't expect the syntax of environment variable assignments to be explained every time one of them shows up in a man page. I'm not arguing, I'm making statements. And, BTW, as I said I think the usage of - is context dependent. Have a look at man systemd.slice. So it seems the question what is the general meaning of - may be an invalid question. The only point I'm making is, the answer to the original question seems easy to come by if one just makes the effort. Nothing more, nothing less. And my point is that it depends. I did make a considerable effort without finding this and I'm not a newbie at this stuff. Maybe if you had just given the straight dope instead of insisting it was easy to find we wouldn't be having this discussion. I propose to leave it at that. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 17:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word EnvironmentFile. Oh, I think I parsed your statement wrong. I should have read it as more than EnvironmentFile contains that syntax such as ExecStartPre. But that then results in a different question which can be answer in the same manner which results in finding the same man page and the following output ExecStartPre=, ExecStartPost= Additional commands that are executed before or after the command in ExecStart=, respectively. Syntax is the same as for ExecStart=, except that multiple command lines are allowed and the commands are executed one after the other, serially. If any of those commands (not prefixed with -) fail, the rest are not executed and the unit is considered failed. You can argue that if you like, but my point is that on seeing the examples the natural conclusion is that here is some new syntax I don't know about, so let me look in the systemd docs for some explanation. The fact that it's only documented in specific examples makes it much harder to find. I don't expect the syntax of environment variable assignments to be explained every time one of them shows up in a man page. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/2015 06:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Maybe if you had just given the straight dope instead of insisting it was easy to find we wouldn't be having this discussion. +1 -- Glenn Holmer (Linux registered user #16682) After the vintage season came the aftermath -- and Cenbe. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Another DNF quesiton?
Just updated a number of machines to Fedora 22 including the 20 i7 machines in my classroom. With yum I had an issue with updates using au and nz sites, which were physically closer, but all traffic from Guam goes to US via bigger pipes and thise was support slow. Modified the repo files with country=us and this worked great, but now using dnf it is slow doing updates. Unlike yum, it doesn't show the repos that are being used. The option is still in the repo files, but don't know if dnf doesn't use it, or if dnf is still using us sites, but is just slower. +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) BOINC@HOME CREDITS ROSETTA 32917194.309375 | SETI59177218.029535 ABC 16613838.513356 | EINSTEIN68182183.896894 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 13/08/15 11:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 17:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word EnvironmentFile. Oh, I think I parsed your statement wrong. I should have read it as more than EnvironmentFile contains that syntax such as ExecStartPre. But that then results in a different question which can be answer in the same manner which results in finding the same man page and the following output ExecStartPre=, ExecStartPost= Additional commands that are executed before or after the command in ExecStart=, respectively. Syntax is the same as for ExecStart=, except that multiple command lines are allowed and the commands are executed one after the other, serially. If any of those commands (not prefixed with -) fail, the rest are not executed and the unit is considered failed. You can argue that if you like, but my point is that on seeing the examples the natural conclusion is that here is some new syntax I don't know about, so let me look in the systemd docs for some explanation. The fact that it's only documented in specific examples makes it much harder to find. I don't expect the syntax of environment variable assignments to be explained every time one of them shows up in a man page. poc Well I found it, I just didn't quote that bit. So Ed was right. Regards, Chris R. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 18:17, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 17:02 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 16:38, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: throws up a whole bunch of of hits which don't include the word EnvironmentFile. Oh, I think I parsed your statement wrong. I should have read it as more than EnvironmentFile contains that syntax such as ExecStartPre. But that then results in a different question which can be answer in the same manner which results in finding the same man page and the following output ExecStartPre=, ExecStartPost= Additional commands that are executed before or after the command in ExecStart=, respectively. Syntax is the same as for ExecStart=, except that multiple command lines are allowed and the commands are executed one after the other, serially. If any of those commands (not prefixed with -) fail, the rest are not executed and the unit is considered failed. You can argue that if you like, but my point is that on seeing the examples the natural conclusion is that here is some new syntax I don't know about, so let me look in the systemd docs for some explanation. The fact that it's only documented in specific examples makes it much harder to find. I don't expect the syntax of environment variable assignments to be explained every time one of them shows up in a man page. I'm not arguing, I'm making statements. And, BTW, as I said I think the usage of - is context dependent. Have a look at man systemd.slice. So it seems the question what is the general meaning of - may be an invalid question. The only point I'm making is, the answer to the original question seems easy to come by if one just makes the effort. Nothing more, nothing less. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 19:15, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Maybe if you had just given the straight dope instead of insisting it was easy to find we wouldn't be having this discussion. I suppose so. Yet one hopes that at least one person could learn a few more commands/methods of doing research from this thread. You know what they say about giving fish v.s. teaching fishing. I guess all some people want are the fish. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 20:11 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 08/13/15 19:15, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: Maybe if you had just given the straight dope instead of insisting it was easy to find we wouldn't be having this discussion. I suppose so. Yet one hopes that at least one person could learn a few more commands/methods of doing research from this thread. You know what they say about giving fish v.s. teaching fishing. I guess all some people want are the fish. Or you can give the fish and teach the fishing. That's enough of this. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: [389-users] Restict master-master replication
On 08/10/2015 11:54 AM, German Parente wrote: Hi Vinay, you could add an aci to deny replication user from doing delete operations on the whole replicated suffix. But note this aci will be by user and not by host. If not, you could also restrict the aci by ip address of primary node to achieve exactly what you want to do. this will not work, acis are not evaluated again in a replication session, only on the master the op was seen first. But, all the effort we do in replication is to make the databases consistent on master and replica, you are asking explicitely to make it inconsistent, this should not be supported. the only exception is fractional replication. Regards, German. - Original Message - From: vinay garg vinay.g...@fosteringlinux.com To: 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 10:57:07 AM Subject: [389-users] Restict master-master replication hi list, we have multi-master settup 1. Primary master 2. Secondary Master HOw can we apply restriction on Primary master that primary master can replicaiton only modify, add on secondary master. But Primary master dont have permission to delete replication data on secondary master. Any idea how to restrict From Primary Master to Secondary master -- Regards Vinay Garg Keen Able Comp. Pvt. ltd. 9990770734 -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users -- 389 users mailing list 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-users
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
Do the rest of us on this list have to read this stupid thread? Sent from my iPhone On 13 Aug 2015, at 01:42, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: On 08/13/15 08:01, Ed Greshko wrote: Being that it was a very specific question the 2 words were easy to divine. And, if I had my coffee, I probably would have used -K and a single word before resorting to google. Recalling, again, this to have been a very specific question with a very unique word. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Q about Environment files of systemd
On 08/13/15 20:26, Ntlworld wrote: Do the rest of us on this list have to read this stupid thread? No, you don't. -- If I wanted a blog or social media I'd go elsewhere -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
Hi Mr Heinz, Thanks for stopping by. ;) Le 11/08/2015 20:15, Heinz Diehl a écrit : On 11.08.2015, Diogene Laerce wrote: Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? If you backup all your partitions with rsync, all you have to do in an emergency case is to boot from e.g. CD or a memory stick [1] and reverse the rsync command. Example: rsync -avxHSAX /home/ /backup/home -- backup rsync -avxHSAX --delete /backup/home/ /home -- restore The --delete parameter will take care of all the files that are not in the same state as when they were saved. So in case of a complete disaster, just restore your data as described. If your boot sector is damaged, you'll however have to restore it by hand (which isn't all too difficult). [1] http://www.sysresccd.org I actually modified Rick's script with those rsync parameters you provided which seem more accurate for my system. Kind regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Another DNF quesiton?
I only have a couple systems here, and I run a local repo (hangover from when I ran over DSL). I might think you would want to do the same, to hit the remote mirrors only once a day. On 08/13/2015 05:25 AM, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: Just updated a number of machines to Fedora 22 including the 20 i7 machines in my classroom. With yum I had an issue with updates using au and nz sites, which were physically closer, but all traffic from Guam goes to US via bigger pipes and thise was support slow. Modified the repo files with country=us and this worked great, but now using dnf it is slow doing updates. Unlike yum, it doesn't show the repos that are being used. The option is still in the repo files, but don't know if dnf doesn't use it, or if dnf is still using us sites, but is just slower. +--+ Michael D. Setzer II - Computer Science Instructor Guam Community College Computer Center mailto:mi...@kuentos.guam.net mailto:msetze...@gmail.com http://www.guam.net/home/mikes Guam - Where America's Day Begins G4L Disk Imaging Project maintainer http://sourceforge.net/projects/g4l/ +--+ http://setiathome.berkeley.edu (Original) Number of Seti Units Returned: 19,471 Processing time: 32 years, 290 days, 12 hours, 58 minutes (Total Hours: 287,489) BOINC@HOME CREDITS ROSETTA 32917194.309375 | SETI59177218.029535 ABC 16613838.513356 | EINSTEIN68182183.896894 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Laptop 'Sleep' with 4.1.x Kernels
Anyone else lost the ability for laptop acpi sleep since 4.1.x kernels came out? My Lenovo T530 works properly when lid is closed with 4.0.8-300.fc22, but does not with any 4.1 kernel. -- Tim Evans |5 Chestnut Court 443-394-3864|Owings Mills, MD 21117 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
Le 11/08/2015 22:54, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 08/11/2015 10:52 AM, Diogene Laerce wrote: Hi Rick, Le 11/08/2015 19:18, Rick Stevens a écrit : On 08/11/2015 09:18 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:05 AM, Diogene Laerce me_buss...@yahoo.fr wrote: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Full_System_Backup_with_rsync Is there a trick I don't see here ? Because if the backup of those directories is enough for a full restoration of a system state, this method is far more efficient than the others, isn't it ? As one does not need to reboot and just have to make a script or/and a cron job to make his own snapshot. I don't consider a backup and snapshot to be the same thing. Copying (or rsyncing) some directories to another volume is a backup. A snapshot is a deduplicated copy of something at a particular moment in time, on the same volume or storage pool. It's not a backup, in that if the pool implodes both the original and snapshot are lost. A snapshot can be used as a source for a backup, since you can make a snapshot that doesn't change while the backup is happening. I agree with Chris. Snapshots are ways of restoring data that has been perhaps corrupted or deleted or going back in time to some earlier point in the filesystems' life. They aren't backups. Backup philosophies and techniques vary depending on what you need for your unique situation. I'm not claiming what I do is the best, but this is what works for me: On the last Friday of a month, I plug in a big ESATA or USB3 drive and use it to store the output of Mondo Rescue. I have the backup in the form of DVD-sized ISO images I can burn DVDs from and there is a recovery DVD you can boot from. That gives me a backup usable to restore to bare metal. Once a week (or more often if there's been significant changes), I use a _different_ ESATA or USB3 drive and run an rsync that backs up everything except a few things (/proc, /sys, /dev, /media, /var/log/journal, various caches, etc.) to a directory on that external drive based on the hostname and date I ran the backup. That permits me to restore data that's a bit more recent than the MondoRescue stuff. I'd be happy to share the MondoArchive and rsync scripts if you wish. Tweak to suit your needs. Thank you for the offer. I'm going to stick with RedoBackup but I'd really like to have a look at your rsync scripts, and maybe at what various caches you think of. The rsync backup is done via this script: -- CUT HERE -- #!/bin/bash # Back up system to a specific directory given on the command line. Excludes # the /proc, /sys, /dev and /media directories MYHOST=`hostname` TODAY=`date +%d-%b-%Y` if [ $# -lt 1 ]; then TGT=/media/500GB-Drive/Backups/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY OPT= else TGT=$1/$MYHOST-BackUp-$TODAY OPT=--exclude=$1/*** fi nice -n 19 /bin/rsync -avXA --exclude-from=/etc/skipdirs.rsync $OPT / $TGT -- CUT HERE -- And the /etc/skipdirs.rsync file is: -- CUT HERE -- /proc/* /sys/* /dev/* /media/** /var/log/journal/* /BACKUPS/*** **/.cache/google-chrome/*** **/.ccache/*** /run/media/** var/lib/docker/* -- CUT HERE -- Thank you for those. Caches are roughly what I was thinking of but I would not have thought of nice.. Nice. Kind regards, -- “One original thought is worth a thousand mindless quotings.” “Le vrai n'est pas plus sûr que le probable.” Diogene Laerce signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Laptop 'Sleep' with 4.1.x Kernels
On 08/13/2015 08:54 AM, Tim Evans wrote: Anyone else lost the ability for laptop acpi sleep since 4.1.x kernels came out? My Lenovo T530 works properly when lid is closed with 4.0.8-300.fc22, but does not with any 4.1 kernel. Yes I have. The machine is Lenovo Thinkpad x240. I find that sometimes it works as expected, rarely. Sometimes suspend will kick in after several minutes and sometimes it never does. Also uncommenting the HandleLidSwitch=suspend line in /etc/systemd/logind.conf had no effect. Pressing the power switch for about a second does work and is what I do now until this lid switch problem goes away as I am sure it will. HTH -- Roger Wells, P.E. leidos 221 Third St Newport, RI 02840 401-847-4210 (voice) 401-849-1585 (fax) roger.k.we...@leidos.com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
fedora 22 mostly better
Hey! Fedora 22 is the first fedora release ever where all the services that use the network seem to start correctly! I haven't had to put any delayed restart commands in rc.local to get mail and NFS mounts and such working :-). On reboot, it still almost always hangs for several minutes doing God knows what (since it kills the nvidia driver early, all I have is black screen, so I can't see what it might be doing). I accidentally discovered that someone has at least made it listen to Ctrl-Alt-Delete during shutdown now. If I hold the keys down to make them repeat really fast systemd will stop waiting and go ahead and reboot. Now if only I could figure out what it is waiting on (I suspect the user daemons for other users that are no longer logged in have something to do with it). Is there any way to have it trace shutdown and leave info I could examine the next time it is up? What is with the tmpfs mounts it now makes for each user daemon? There is already a tmpfs /run, why does every user daemon need yet another mountpoint under that? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora 22 mostly better
On 08/13/15 21:20, Tom Horsley wrote: Hey! Fedora 22 is the first fedora release ever where all the services that use the network seem to start correctly! I haven't had to put any delayed restart commands in rc.local to get mail and NFS mounts and such working :-). On reboot, it still almost always hangs for several minutes doing God knows what (since it kills the nvidia driver early, all I have is black screen, so I can't see what it might be doing). I accidentally discovered that someone has at least made it listen to Ctrl-Alt-Delete during shutdown now. If I hold the keys down to make them repeat really fast systemd will stop waiting and go ahead and reboot. Now if only I could figure out what it is waiting on (I suspect the user daemons for other users that are no longer logged in have something to do with it). Is there any way to have it trace shutdown and leave info I could examine the next time it is up? If you remove rhgb quiet from the linux line when booting you should be able to monitor the shutdown processes. I had a system hang on reboot/shutdown when using NFS over WiFi and did not know what was happening until I did that. That problem was BZ'd and fixed however. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: backup snapshot
On 08/11/2015 02:15 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote: So in case of a complete disaster, just restore your data as described. If your boot sector is damaged, you'll however have to restore it by hand (which isn't all too difficult). [1] http://www.sysresccd.org whenever I mess up my MBR, I boot the boot rescue CD.. it is automatic, rebuilds the MBR so grub works again.. http://sourceforge.net/p/boot-repair-cd/home/Home/ -- Paul Cartwright Registered Linux User #367800 and new counter #561587 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Laptop 'Sleep' with 4.1.x Kernels
Hi Tim, On my DELL Inspiron 14 7437 closing the screen doesn't put it in sleep mode. I also noticed that around the 4.1.x kernel update. Best regards, Alexis. Le jeudi 13 août 2015 à 08:54 -0400, Tim Evans a écrit : Anyone else lost the ability for laptop acpi sleep since 4.1.x kernels came out? My Lenovo T530 works properly when lid is closed with 4.0.8-300.fc22, but does not with any 4.1 kernel. -- Tim Evans |5 Chestnut Court 443-394-3864 |Owings Mills, MD 21117 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora 22 mostly better
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:54:57 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: If you remove rhgb quiet from the linux line when booting you should be able to monitor the shutdown processes. Normally yes, but I have a UHD monitor and an nvidia card that only works with the binary driver and something gets killed off really early in the shutdown that leaves me with a black screen (I already have rhgb and quiet turned off). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
My cheat sheet that I used in going from F20 to F21 is not working on F21 to F22. To restore Firefox: ~/.mozilla/firefox/.default/ move: places.sqlite permissions.sqlite formhistory.sqlite cookies.sqlite cert8.db mimeTypes.rdf save-session:sessionstore.js === No sessionstore.js actually anymore in F21 to move. My bookmarks, history, etc. Do not seem to be moved. I cannot find any F22 help on this, and interestingly Firefox on my F21 is 39.0.0 and on F22 it is 39.0.3 (of course don't know what originally came with F21). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F22 - Xfce monitor mirroring
When I plug my external monitor in, the mirroring option is greyed out. This worked fine in F21. I DO have a challenge in that my Belkin KVM is only seems to be allowing 1024x768, eventhough the manual says it supports higher resolution. But this worked fine in F21. And even if I force the laptop panel to 1024x768, mirroring is still not available. Where might I find a control to fix this? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On 08/13/2015 12:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 12:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Different computer and drive. F21 is still on the old computer that at least needs a new fan, but probably some other fix ups. F22 is now on a computer that is the sum of working parts of two other computers :) Your original question didn't mention that. You appeared to be simply updating from one Fedora version to another. I would still copy the entire /home to the new machine, all the same, but that's just me. I did not want to copy all the hidden directories, as I don't know all that they do and what may be different between releases. I DO copy .ssh, .svn, and .vnc, but that is pretty much it. And I do have a user crontab, but that lives elsewhere. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
A plea to users who report bugs
In many bugs reports, one can observe that the reporters don't tell - whether a problem is reproducible, - how often it occurs, - how to reproduce it (if known). In lots of other cases, bug reporters are completely silent and don't give any background details at all. They only let ABRT dump files into bugzilla. We -- the Fedora Community -- can do better than that. Everyone, *please* spend a few seconds on mentioning a few details, even if you only confirm that it has been a spontaneous crash that happened only once. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Solved - Re: Can I move qemu vms between systems?
I moved the image to the new system and started qemu. The image was not listed in available vms to run. So I went to add an image, and one of the options was to use an existing image. I followed the dialog and got the image added and it started up just fine. One more item done on this port. On 08/12/2015 11:04 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I am setting up a 'new' F22 system. On this F21 system, I have a F21 QEMU vm. Can I 'simply' move the image file in /var/lib/libvirt/images/ to the new system and run it? Obviously the VM will still be F21, but that is no problem. The two systems have identical hardware (Lenovo x120e). -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
Not getting anywhere here. See below. On 08/13/2015 12:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 12:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Different computer and drive. F21 is still on the old computer that at least needs a new fan, but probably some other fix ups. F22 is now on a computer that is the sum of working parts of two other computers :) Your original question didn't mention that. You appeared to be simply updating from one Fedora version to another. I would still copy the entire /home to the new machine, all the same, but that's just me. I looked in the old ~/.mozilla/firefox/profile.ini to see what the old default directory was. I moved that directory off the backup to the new ~/.mozilla/firefox/ and changed the new profile.ini to point to it. I HAD stopped Firefox before doing all this, and then restarted Firefox, and it ignored everything I did, showing all the startup defaults. So either: There is some stub service that is helping Firefox to restart where it last was before I terminated it. And I will probably have to reboot. Or everything is kept somewhere else? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On 08/13/15 11:48, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/13/2015 12:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would still copy the entire /home to the new machine, all the same, but that's just me. I did not want to copy all the hidden directories, as I don't know all that they do and what may be different between releases. I DO copy .ssh, .svn, and .vnc, but that is pretty much it. And I do have a user crontab, but that lives elsewhere. if you cp -R your ~/.mozilla and ~/.thunderbird directories to your f22 system, you will maintain settings you have in f21. only problems that you may/might/will have is if the firefox and thunderbird versions in f22 is later than f21. mainly, you may/will/might have conflicts with old add-ons. other problem are: rendering engines are diff. maybe if sqlite prog has changes. if you can mount your ~/ drive from f21 box in f22 box, you will have an easier time with f22 moz progs if you have need to import anything. to make imports, you will need to also install f21 to f22 box so that you can boot f21 and run moz progs to do exporting. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Solved - Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On 08/13/15 12:41, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/13/2015 01:19 PM, g wrote: if you cp -R your ~/.mozilla and ~/.thunderbird directories to your f22 system, you will maintain settings you have in f21. THANKS. Got it now. welcome. go to know. only problems that you may/might/will have is if the firefox and thunderbird versions in f22 is later than f21. I run Thunderbird from scripts, as I have 4 copies running, each with their own mail directories (and each with multiple mail accounts). An example of one of the scripts is: export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 thunderbird -profile ~/data/htt/Mail export -n MOZ_NO_REMOTE I have been do this at least since '06. Running multiple Thunderbirds MIGHT be easier now, but it seems to work fine this way. yes, thunderbird will run that way, but you are using more memory and cpu time doing such, along having to keep up with 3 more email windows. i have filters for all of my email accounts that move emails to associated 'folders' under Local Folders. with such, i have only 1 'tree panel' and 1 thunderbird window to watch for new emails. if/when i need to view multiple threads or emails, i do so by right clicking on email, then select Open Message in New Window. mainly, you may/will/might have conflicts with old add-ons. I installed adblock plus (my only Firefox add-on) before messing with this. Thuderbird is another issue. I have lost track of extensions and add-ons, but as they are kept by mail tree, they tend to move ok. i pull add-ons and save them in event i have to reinstall/rebuild either of progs. because of all the crap moz devs are pushing out, i am soon to drop both firefox and thunderbird. they have spent too much time trying to keep up with the Jones that they are dropping good functions because they do not have time to correct bugs that they are developing. also, with their attitude of we know more about what the user needs than what the user wants is gotten more and more ridiculous. i do not look forward to what they will be coming up with trying to keep up with the new ms web browser. anyway, enough rant. glad to see you have things working. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 12:40 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Different computer and drive. F21 is still on the old computer that at least needs a new fan, but probably some other fix ups. F22 is now on a computer that is the sum of working parts of two other computers :) Your original question didn't mention that. You appeared to be simply updating from one Fedora version to another. I would still copy the entire /home to the new machine, all the same, but that's just me. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On 08/13/2015 12:14 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 11:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: My cheat sheet that I used in going from F20 to F21 is not working on F21 to F22. To restore Firefox: ~/.mozilla/firefox/.default/ move: places.sqlite permissions.sqlite formhistory.sqlite cookies.sqlite cert8.db mimeTypes.rdf save-session:sessionstore.js === No sessionstore.js actually anymore in F21 to move. My bookmarks, history, etc. Do not seem to be moved. I cannot find any F22 help on this, and interestingly Firefox on my F21 is 39.0.0 and on F22 it is 39.0.3 (of course don't know what originally came with F21). Why do you have to move anything? If you have /home on a separate partition you should't need to do anything at all. Different computer and drive. F21 is still on the old computer that at least needs a new fan, but probably some other fix ups. F22 is now on a computer that is the sum of working parts of two other computers :) I COULD copy the whole .default directory over... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
SV: Laptop 'Sleep' with 4.1.x Kernels
It seems to work fine on my Lenovo X1 Carbon 2nd gen. Sendt fra min Sony Xperia™-smarttelefon Tim Evans skrev Anyone else lost the ability for laptop acpi sleep since 4.1.x kernels came out? My Lenovo T530 works properly when lid is closed with 4.0.8-300.fc22, but does not with any 4.1 kernel. -- Tim Evans |5 Chestnut Court 443-394-3864 |Owings Mills, MD 21117 -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On 08/13/15 12:12, Robert Moskowitz wrote: I looked in the old ~/.mozilla/firefox/profile.ini to see what the old default directory was. I moved that directory off the backup to the new ~/.mozilla/firefox/ and changed the new profile.ini to point to it. I HAD stopped Firefox before doing all this, and then restarted Firefox, and it ignored everything I did, showing all the startup defaults. So either: There is some stub service that is helping Firefox to restart where it last was before I terminated it. And I will probably have to reboot. Or everything is kept somewhere else? you should able to rename your f22 directories; ~/.mozilla/* to ~/.mozilla-new ~/.thunderbird/* to ~/.thunderbird-new then copy your f21 ~/.mozilla/* and ~/.thunderbird/* to your f22 ~/. -- peace out. If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g . -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Solved - Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On 08/13/2015 01:19 PM, g wrote: On 08/13/15 11:48, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 08/13/2015 12:43 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: I would still copy the entire /home to the new machine, all the same, but that's just me. I did not want to copy all the hidden directories, as I don't know all that they do and what may be different between releases. I DO copy .ssh, .svn, and .vnc, but that is pretty much it. And I do have a user crontab, but that lives elsewhere. if you cp -R your ~/.mozilla and ~/.thunderbird directories to your f22 system, you will maintain settings you have in f21. THANKS. Got it now. only problems that you may/might/will have is if the firefox and thunderbird versions in f22 is later than f21. I run Thunderbird from scripts, as I have 4 copies running, each with their own mail directories (and each with multiple mail accounts). An example of one of the scripts is: export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1 thunderbird -profile ~/data/htt/Mail export -n MOZ_NO_REMOTE I have been do this at least since '06. Running multiple Thunderbirds MIGHT be easier now, but it seems to work fine this way. mainly, you may/will/might have conflicts with old add-ons. I installed adblock plus (my only Firefox add-on) before messing with this. Thuderbird is another issue. I have lost track of extensions and add-ons, but as they are kept by mail tree, they tend to move ok. other problem are: rendering engines are diff. maybe if sqlite prog has changes. if you can mount your ~/ drive from f21 box in f22 box, you will have an easier time with f22 moz progs if you have need to import anything. to make imports, you will need to also install f21 to f22 box so that you can boot f21 and run moz progs to do exporting. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 20:49 +, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: Maybe it would be less confusing if --refresh did the job (which sounds like a cool workaround for that kind of problem) but there's a difference between --refresh and clean metadata. From the dnf(1) man page: Note that in all situations the user can force synchronization of all enabled repositories with the --refresh switch. So are you saying the documentation is wrong? poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates
Suvayu Ali fatkasuvayu+li...@gmail.com wrote: In practice, there's not much of a difference between clean all or just clean metadata. Because both require the update/upgrade command to download all stuff from the network and build to whole meta database from scratch, even if that wouldn't be necessary. Sorry, that's not correct. Ever since the yum days, they have been different. The key differences are these two bits (from `man dnf'): [...] Sorry for any confusion I may have caused by my statement. Of course, both are not the same, but if a user of a standard Fedora system with no fancy configuration just wants to install latest updates (and rarely uses dnf for anything else), then my experience shows that there's no significant amount of cached data that clean metadata would have preserved over clean all. No matter if dnf clean metadata or dnf clean all is used, the directly following dnf upgrade uses the same amount of resources (traffic + CPU). Yes, I agree, other commands may benefit a lot if clean metadata is used instead of clean all. Personally, I rarely use dnf for anything but updating the system. Maybe that's why I don't see a difference. But to be honest, that wasn't my point anyway. My point is that users should not need to use either of those (clean metadata or clean all), but there should be a way that dnf upgrade (especially if used interactively on command-line) provides what users expect without any fiddling with cached data. During the yum days, the most frequent complaint on this list were: why is yum so slow, I hate waiting for metadata updates, and so on. And now people complain, the cached metadata is out of date (please don't confuse this with actual bugs). There is no winning, you either wait for the metadata to download, or you get a responsive interface. For my individual needs, I run dnf --disablerepo=fedora clean metadata before I check for updates (actually I use a two-line script for that). The fedora repository uses up the most resources for downloading and rebuilding metadata. This way I still benefit from caching but also get the freshest updates. For all other yum/dnf operations (which I rarely use) I'm fine with the default caching and happily use the default repo files provided by Fedora. PS: I've no relation to the dnf team, just a user. I however think instead of complaining on the list, if any discussions here lead you to think there is a problem with dnf (as in a bug), you should file bug reports. Several tickets already exist for that issue, and the answer is always the same: People should run clean metadata (or clean all if they have plenty of resources) before they update. Technically, that might be a proper solution, but that won't get people from asking the very same question over and over again. Maybe it would be less confusing if --refresh did the job (which sounds like a cool workaround for that kind of problem) but there's a difference between --refresh and clean metadata. Could that be caused by metadata_expire=6h in fedora-updates.repo? Greetings, Andreas -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22: KDE to Gnome?
Well, after decades of KDE my solution was:
dnf groupinstall Xfce
Xfce works
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Rich Emberson emberson.r...@gmail.com
wrote:
Upgraded from F20 KDE environment using
fedup --network 22 --product=nonproduct
and X/KDE has rendering/refresh/redraw issues.
Application widgets and KDE pop menus are not draw, or,
at best some edge or corner is drawn. In an xterm,
the line being entered is drawn, but nothing else -
move the window and the content disappears.
System description at bottom.
Information points:
1) With F20, KDE worked fine on this machine.
2) Upgraded KDE system has above rendering issues
3) Remotely logging into broken system and launching X application
which displays on remote machine works just fine.
4) Booting from a F22 KDE Live dvd has *SAME* rendering issue.
5) Booting from a F22 Gnome Workstation Live dvd has *NO* rendering
issues.
Information point 2: Seems to imply that the X.org SW is working fine; the
X protocol (X - app) is good.
Information point 4: Yea, the F22 Workstation dvd seems to work.
Question: Do the two Live dvds (KDE and Gnome) use the same nouveau driver?
If the two dvds use the same nouveau driver, then
it might be argued that its a KDE issue.
The machine has a Nvidia graphics board, but it is not being used;
was not used with F20 KDE and not being used for broken F22 KDE.
So, if it is a KDE issue (on this particular machine) then what to do?
In particular, it looks like on this machine I will be using Gnome
or some other window manager but not KDE for F22.
Options:
1) Attempt to use Nvidia graphics on broken F22 KDE machine.
There are many sites that describe how to disable nouveau
and enable Nvidia. But, 1) there does not seem to be a site
specifically addressing what to do when using F22 and 2) the sites
are not consistent (use rpmfusion vs Nvidia site for driver,
what needs to be done to disable nouveau (grub/blacklist,...), etc.).
Also, there is no guarantee that a KDE rendering issue will be
fixed by switching to Nvidia card.
2) Attempt to install F22 Workstation on existing broken F22 KDE machine.
If one uses the F22 Gnome Workstation dvd to install to harddrive
will it allow you to select which disk to install on
(my /home has already been backed up)?
I assume this will set Gnome as the desktop into which the system
boots.
Or, is there some dnf command which will install the Workstation
so that the system boots into Gnome.
3) Re-install F20 (KDE) and then upgrade to F22 Workstation.
This is the most time consuming, but it appears to be rather
straight forward.
install F20 from dvd
fedup --network 22 --product=workstation
Question: Which option above is the most likely to succeed?
Question: Once the system is working as F22 Gnome Workstation, can I then
install and try out other window managers (e.g., xfce)?
Advice sought.
Thanks
Richard
System:
uname -a
Linux olympia 4.1.3-201.fc22.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jul 29 19:50:22 UTC
2015 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
hardware (board, cpu, Nvidia graphics board (not used), etc.)
# /sbin/lshw -c display
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: G73 [GeForce 7300 GT]
vendor: NVIDIA Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci at :01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master
cap_listrom
configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
resources: irq:29 memory:fd00-fdff
memory:d000-dfff
memory:fc00-fcff ioport:bc00(size=128)
memory:fe8e-fe8f
Display driver
rpm -qa --qf '%{NAME} %{VERSION}-%{RELEASE} %{ARCH}\n' | grep nouv
xorg-x11-drv-nouveau 1.0.11-2.fc22 x86_64
X.org software
libX11 1.6.3-1.fc22 x86_64
xorg-x11-server-Xorg 1.17.2-2.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Desktop (KDE, Gnome, etc.)
kde-runtime-libs 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
kde-runtime 15.04.2-1.fc22 x86_64
etc.
Monitor
Early on, I swapped out the monitor to a different one and still
got the same problem
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Re: F22 Android phone access
On 08/13/2015 03:42 PM, Derrik Walker v2.0 wrote: On 08/13/2015 03:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: In F21, I attached my Samsung SG4 via USB (making sure it was unlocked) and waited. First it should mounting the Verizon Install CD, then this timed out and the phone was accessable. Now in F22 (with Xfce), after the Verizon Install CD, nothing. Perhaps there was something I installed on advise here, but I can't find any notes on it. Anyone have the magic goo for accessing your phone on F22? Mine actually works better with F22 and Android 5.1. It really didn't work for crap under any Fedora 21 and Android 4.anything. For my LG, I just plug it in, unlock it, double click on the icon on the left and I see the phone and the SDcard. I also am running XFCE. I think you need libmtp and gvfs-mtp and all the associated dependencies installed for it to work, however. Not sure what else. ah, those were the rpms I needed to install. libmtp was already there, but not gvfs-mtp. Plus it took a reboot for it to start working. Now, if I knew how to access the phone from the command line, I could start using cp and rsync, not just Thundar... -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
F22 Android phone access
In F21, I attached my Samsung SG4 via USB (making sure it was unlocked) and waited. First it should mounting the Verizon Install CD, then this timed out and the phone was accessable. Now in F22 (with Xfce), after the Verizon Install CD, nothing. Perhaps there was something I installed on advise here, but I can't find any notes on it. Anyone have the magic goo for accessing your phone on F22? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: A plea to users who report bugs
On 08/13/2015 11:37 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote: In many bugs reports, one can observe that the reporters don't tell - whether a problem is reproducible, - how often it occurs, - how to reproduce it (if known). Agreed. I remember that I was one of very many people who reported on a bug in Alacarte that spanned several years, including more than one fix that didn't. Almost all of the notes on the bugs were reports by people who'd been bitten by it and almost without exception they read, roughly, I tried to edit a menu and the program crashed. Although not exactly helpful, especially when it's the forty-second time the bug's been reported, it was true, as far as it went. What normally wasn't mentioned was that it only happened if you made any changes, and only on exit, and that may be part of the reason it took so long to repair. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates
On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 07:43:49PM +, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: However, if somebody runs dnf upgrade on the command shell then he clearly wants the latest updates. Right now! No caching or other magic involved. That's the whole point of running dnf upgrade manually, otherwise the user would have left the whole updating business to some automated background task. If this is what you want, use dnf update --refresh instead That does clearly *not* provide the latest updates. It's better than without --refresh, but dnf clean metadata is required for full updates available. FWIW, this my bug report fell on deaf ears: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1246253 I find it disheartening how it was closed without even acknowledging that the problem exists, so I decided not to pursue this further. If someone is willing to put in the effort to push for this, please reopen the bug. Or maybe a new one, specifically on --refresh not doing what it is supposed to. Cheers, -- Suvayu Open source is the future. It sets us free. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 - Xfce monitor mirroring
More information: On 08/13/2015 11:14 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I plug my external monitor in, the mirroring option is greyed out. This worked fine in F21. I DO have a challenge in that my Belkin KVM is only seems to be allowing 1024x768, eventhough the manual says it supports higher resolution. But this worked fine in F21. And even if I force the laptop panel to 1024x768, mirroring is still not available. Where might I find a control to fix this? I had to reboot to get Android access working. The login screen was Mirrored! But... Once logged in, it switched to external monitor only and mirroring is still greyed out. So why did the login screen present mirrored but I can't get mirrored logged in? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates
Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: However, if somebody runs dnf upgrade on the command shell then he clearly wants the latest updates. Right now! No caching or other magic involved. That's the whole point of running dnf upgrade manually, otherwise the user would have left the whole updating business to some automated background task. If this is what you want, use dnf update --refresh instead That does clearly *not* provide the latest updates. It's better than without --refresh, but dnf clean metadata is required for full updates available. Once you figured that out, you can write a script and then get what you want. All other users come here every couple of weeks and will ask the same question again: Why doesn't yum/dnf fetch all updates? And that's indeed a good question, why dnf upgrade called interactively on a shell does such an excessive caching so that people are wondering if it is working properly at all. If I do ls on my shell prompt, I also expect the actual contents of the current directory and not some cached output six hours ago. :-) Greetings, Andreas -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: dnf update vs Software Udpates
Hi On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Andreas M. Kirchwitz wrote: That does clearly *not* provide the latest updates. It's better than without --refresh, but dnf clean metadata is required for full updates available. That contradicts the documentation provided. I would suggest filing a bug report. I would do it myself if I can reproduce that but I haven't run into this problem Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Asus UX303LA - fedora 21 - external monitor via mini display port not recognized
All; I've installed Fedora 21 on an Asus UX303LA. Most everything works great but I cannot get it to recognize an external monitor via the mini display port. I checked dmesg and saw no change when I plug the monitor in. I also booted with the monitor plugged in but still no luck. Thoughts? Thanks in advance -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora 22 mostly better
Hi On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 9:20 AM, Tom Horsley wrote: What is with the tmpfs mounts it now makes for each user daemon? There is already a tmpfs /run, why does every user daemon need yet another mountpoint under that? IIRC because tmpfs doesn't have quota support Rahul -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Solved - Re: F22 - Xfce monitor mirroring
Just played around more in SuperP Advanced until I got it to enable Monitor and Laptop together, then it allowed mirroring. Then I had to select mirroring. Now I am seeing this on both the monitor and the laptop. Whew. On 08/13/2015 05:21 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: More information: On 08/13/2015 11:14 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: When I plug my external monitor in, the mirroring option is greyed out. This worked fine in F21. I DO have a challenge in that my Belkin KVM is only seems to be allowing 1024x768, eventhough the manual says it supports higher resolution. But this worked fine in F21. And even if I force the laptop panel to 1024x768, mirroring is still not available. Where might I find a control to fix this? I had to reboot to get Android access working. The login screen was Mirrored! But... Once logged in, it switched to external monitor only and mirroring is still greyed out. So why did the login screen present mirrored but I can't get mirrored logged in? -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moving Firefox settings from F21 to F22
On Thu, 2015-08-13 at 11:19 -0400, Robert Moskowitz wrote: My cheat sheet that I used in going from F20 to F21 is not working on F21 to F22. To restore Firefox: ~/.mozilla/firefox/.default/ move: places.sqlite permissions.sqlite formhistory.sqlite cookies.sqlite cert8.db mimeTypes.rdf save-session:sessionstore.js === No sessionstore.js actually anymore in F21 to move. My bookmarks, history, etc. Do not seem to be moved. I cannot find any F22 help on this, and interestingly Firefox on my F21 is 39.0.0 and on F22 it is 39.0.3 (of course don't know what originally came with F21). Why do you have to move anything? If you have /home on a separate partition you should't need to do anything at all. poc -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora 22 mostly better
On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 23:37:36 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: If you know the time you rebooted and if you do journaltcl -b -1 somefile and then examine somefile for oddities at that time, does anything jump out? My best theory is that this bug still happens (it was only closed because it was against f20, not because anyone actually claimed to have fixed it). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1088619 One of these days I'll get ambitious enough to enabled all the systemd debugging stuff documented here and see if I can see anything: http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F22 Android phone access
On 08/13/2015 03:35 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: In F21, I attached my Samsung SG4 via USB (making sure it was unlocked) and waited. First it should mounting the Verizon Install CD, then this timed out and the phone was accessable. Now in F22 (with Xfce), after the Verizon Install CD, nothing. Perhaps there was something I installed on advise here, but I can't find any notes on it. Anyone have the magic goo for accessing your phone on F22? Mine actually works better with F22 and Android 5.1. It really didn't work for crap under any Fedora 21 and Android 4.anything. For my LG, I just plug it in, unlock it, double click on the icon on the left and I see the phone and the SDcard. I also am running XFCE. I think you need libmtp and gvfs-mtp and all the associated dependencies installed for it to work, however. Not sure what else. -- -- Derrik Derrik Walker v2.0, RHCE dwal...@doomd.net Those UNIX guys, they think weird! -- John C. Dvorak -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: fedora 22 mostly better
On 08/13/15 23:26, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 13 Aug 2015 21:54:57 +0800 Ed Greshko wrote: If you remove rhgb quiet from the linux line when booting you should be able to monitor the shutdown processes. Normally yes, but I have a UHD monitor and an nvidia card that only works with the binary driver and something gets killed off really early in the shutdown that leaves me with a black screen (I already have rhgb and quiet turned off). I see. If you know the time you rebooted and if you do journaltcl -b -1 somefile and then examine somefile for oddities at that time, does anything jump out? -- It seems most people that say they are done talking about it never really are until given the last word. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
