BlueFish - how to access a remote server

2015-11-26 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Hi

I would use BlueFish to rebuild my web site.

I build this site some years ago using "Front Page" in Windows environment.
In the meantime I changed Windows to Fedora, so I would like to do this
renovation using BlueFish (that I already installed).
...However I have problem to access to  my remote site, from BlueFish..

It look to me it possible to do my work using BlueFish, because I took a
look to  tutorial : http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/movies...ote_files.html
 that
show exactly how to do what I need.
But the images  showed in that tutorial appear to be a little different
from these that I see on my computer..: my opinion about this difference is
that the tutorial show BlueFish to work in "Window environment"  instead
that in Linux environment ()
So the tutorial could be not good in my case.


*In short:*
*I would like to access to the SW that is stored in my site as a "remote
server"* , In the same way I accessed  using Front Page..., but* I am not
able to do really this operation...*

Any suggestion will be appreciated...

Than you

Regards

Angelo
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mate problem after upgrade to 22

2015-11-26 Thread Frank McCormick
Upgraded my 21 system to 22 this morning...but using the script 
fedora-upgrade not

anything else
All seemed to go well...after reboot I went into my mate desktop and 
discovered

the panel at the bottom of the screen is not displaying. A quick check
showed it was loaded and seemingly running. Google didn't find
anything relevant.

Does anyone have a suggestion ?


Thanks
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Changing systems

2015-11-26 Thread Mike Chambers
Hi all and Happy Thanksgiving,

Could I take 2 HD's out of 1 computer, move them to a different
computer, obviously having to reinstall grub and such, would they work
without having to do much of anything else?  

I know I have to make sure the correct one is booted up and how they
are connected, and the BIOS sees them correctly.

Anything else to know first?  The computers are both pretty new so not
like going from 10 year old to a 1 year old or anything, both only 3-5
years old even if that old.

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(SOLVED) Re: mate problem after upgrade to 22

2015-11-26 Thread Frank McCormick

On 11/26/2015 12:57 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:
Upgraded my 21 system to 22 this morning...but using the script 
fedora-upgrade not

anything else
All seemed to go well...after reboot I went into my mate desktop and 
discovered

the panel at the bottom of the screen is not displaying. A quick check
showed it was loaded and seemingly running. Google didn't find
anything relevant.

Does anyone have a suggestion ?


Thanks


Ran dnf distro-sync and 178 packages were downgraded...and a few
new ones upgraded. Panel is back in mate. Very strange. But all is well now.
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Re: BlueFish - how to access a remote server

2015-11-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 11/26/2015 02:19 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:

_*In short:*
_
_I would like to access to the SW that is stored in my site as a "remote
server"_, In the same way I accessed  using Front Page...,but_I am not
able to do really this operation..._


I'm not a web designer (One look at my vanity domain will prove that.) 
but if it were me, I'd download the source for your site, do the work 
locally then upload it once you're satisfied.  Not only does it avoid 
the issues you're having it makes sure that you have a complete and 
current backup of your site.  YMMV, but that's what I'd suggest.

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Re: Changing systems

2015-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:57:18 -0600
Mike Chambers wrote:

> Could I take 2 HD's out of 1 computer, move them to a different
> computer, obviously having to reinstall grub and such, would they work
> without having to do much of anything else?  

It has always worked for me. I never even had to reinstall grub
(though if switching from BIOS to UEFI it might be a challenge).
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Re: BlueFish - how to access a remote server

2015-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Joe Zeff writes:


On 11/26/2015 02:19 AM, Angelo Moreschini wrote:

_*In short:*
_
_I would like to access to the SW that is stored in my site as a "remote
server"_, In the same way I accessed  using Front Page...,but_I am not
able to do really this operation..._


I'm not a web designer (One look at my vanity domain will prove that.) but  
if it were me, I'd download the source for your site, do the work locally  
then upload it once you're satisfied.  Not only does it avoid the issues  
you're having it makes sure that you have a complete and current backup of  
your site.  YMMV, but that's what I'd suggest.


That's what I do for my web sites. I maintain a complete local mirror, which  
is what I work with, and then run simple script to rsync the site to the  
remote server.




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Re: Changing systems

2015-11-26 Thread Sam Varshavchik

Tom Horsley writes:


On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 11:57:18 -0600
Mike Chambers wrote:

> Could I take 2 HD's out of 1 computer, move them to a different
> computer, obviously having to reinstall grub and such, would they work
> without having to do much of anything else?  

It has always worked for me. I never even had to reinstall grub
(though if switching from BIOS to UEFI it might be a challenge).


I have some recollection of a relatively recent change, which sets up and  
loads kernel modules based on the host's hardware, so a hardware change  
would require some sort of a reconfiguration, somehow. I could be wrong.





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Re: Strange sendmail behaviour

2015-11-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 24 November 2015, Stephen Davies sent:
> What have I missed here.

Showing the list a configuration file that they might be able to spot a
problem with.  There's not enough information with your post for someone
else to conjure up a solution.


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Re: Changing systems

2015-11-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 07:00:03PM -0500, Fred Smith wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:57:18AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> > Hi all and Happy Thanksgiving,
> > 
> > Could I take 2 HD's out of 1 computer, move them to a different
> > computer, obviously having to reinstall grub and such, would they work
> > without having to do much of anything else?  
> > 
> > I know I have to make sure the correct one is booted up and how they
> > are connected, and the BIOS sees them correctly.
> > 
> > Anything else to know first?  The computers are both pretty new so not
> > like going from 10 year old to a 1 year old or anything, both only 3-5
> > years old even if that old.
> 
> that's how I "built" the system I have now. Had a pair of drives
> in software RAID-1. pulled 'em out of the old system, plugged 'em
> into the new system and voila (nearly) everything worked. One bottleneck
> was the network wasn't working until I fixed the hard-coded MAC addresses
> in the NIC configuration. can't think of anything else, right now, that
> didn't work.

following up on my won post: I gotta admit that was Centos 6, not
Fedora.


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Re: Changing systems

2015-11-26 Thread Fred Smith
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 11:57:18AM -0600, Mike Chambers wrote:
> Hi all and Happy Thanksgiving,
> 
> Could I take 2 HD's out of 1 computer, move them to a different
> computer, obviously having to reinstall grub and such, would they work
> without having to do much of anything else?  
> 
> I know I have to make sure the correct one is booted up and how they
> are connected, and the BIOS sees them correctly.
> 
> Anything else to know first?  The computers are both pretty new so not
> like going from 10 year old to a 1 year old or anything, both only 3-5
> years old even if that old.

that's how I "built" the system I have now. Had a pair of drives
in software RAID-1. pulled 'em out of the old system, plugged 'em
into the new system and voila (nearly) everything worked. One bottleneck
was the network wasn't working until I fixed the hard-coded MAC addresses
in the NIC configuration. can't think of anything else, right now, that
didn't work.

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Re: BlueFish - how to access a remote server

2015-11-26 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 26 November 2015, Angelo Moreschini sent:

> I would use BlueFish to rebuild my web site.
> 
> I build this site some years ago using "Front Page" in Windows
> environment.

Possibly it used "webdav" as the communications protocol.  It's been
over a decade since I even looked at what Front Page did (beyond create
a pile of garbage inside a webpage), but webdav is/was the typical
protocol used by editors that directly worked with HTML files on the
webserver, rather than do what I, and many others, do:

Run a webserver on our own computer.
Edit webpage files on our on computer.
Check that the website appears to do what it's meant to.
Upload the changes to our WWW server.

> In the meantime I changed Windows to Fedora, so I would like to do
> this renovation using BlueFish (that I already installed). 
> ...However I have problem to access to  my remote site, from
> BlueFish..

I'm not familiar with BlueFish, but I'd suggest you'd need to work out
what protocol you used to use with Front Page, find out what protocols
your website supports, then see what options BlueFish is compatible
with.  And I'd start by looking at guides for your webhost, in
particular, rather than general web publishing guides.

The webdav protocol used HTTP, there's various flavours of FTP that can
be used, and SSH, etc.

> It look to me it possible to do my work using BlueFish, because I took
> a look to  tutorial :
> http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/movies...ote_files.html that show
> exactly how to do what I need.

Uugggh!  Flash tutes.  Gawd, I have to sit through a prolonged talk,
with no way to go at my own speed...

> But the images  showed in that tutorial appear to be a little
> different from these that I see on my computer..: my opinion about
> this difference is that the tutorial show BlueFish to work in "Window
> environment"  instead that in Linux environment () 
> So the tutorial could be not good in my case.

Well, the only differences that I can think of, off the top of my head,
between Windows and Linux that ought to make a difference, are that
Windows' local file paths have backslashes in them, and that Linux is
case-sensitive (type your filenames with the exact same capitalisms
locally and remotely - for ease of typing, do everything lowercase).


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Re: BlueFish - how to access a remote server

2015-11-26 Thread Angelo Moreschini
Thank for yours the answers..

What you suggest  to do (to work on a my computer and after send the work
to the web site) would be  very good also for me..

The problem is that actually *I am  able to access to files in my remote
site ONLY using using the option File =--> open URL... .*

Using this option, I have to indicate the full path of the file that I wont
download.
*And, i this way, I cannot know where the files are stored on the site* -
at moment I can get only the file index.html.

I am,really, looking for a possibility to have a better control about the
content of the site... no matter me to to work directly on the site.


I looked for other possibilities to access remote sites, but I didn't find
others..

I read about a possibility to access to web site using an *option "places"*,
but I am not able to  localize this option on BlueFish...

Also..
In the  tutorial:
http://bluefish.openoffice.nl/movies/working_with_remote_files.html it is
showed that the it is possible to *have acknowledge of remote site using a
protocol sftp:// accessing them as a local directory located on the
computer*, but, if  I try this possibility, I get only "nautilus" to
explore the local computer...
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