Re: Firefox -- "Gah. Your tab just crashed"

[patman]

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 09:11:25AM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:

> > Oh ... firefox-49.0-2.fc25 is base fc25 version :-(
> >
> > Does anyone know where to find firefox-52.0-7.fc25.x86_64 ?
> 
> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=873028
> 
> 
> (Forgot to hit "reply-list")

Thanks ... 

I found this bug and workaround that worked for me:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1439282#c14

"You can force disable the e10s by browser.tabs.remote.force-disable pref. Go to
about:config, right click and add a new boolean value."

I didn't have to remove browser.tabs.remote.autostart.2

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Re: Firefox -- "Gah. Your tab just crashed"

[Ed Greshko]

On 04/15/17 09:06, pat...@aracnet.com wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 05:56:17PM -0700, pat...@aracnet.com wrote:
>> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:41:01AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
>>> I've go so many messages like this from the most recent firefox that it is 
>>> unusable.  I have tried removing all extensions, etc. and disabling 
>>> hardware acceleration, but without any improvement.  Therefor I downgraded 
>>> to firefox-49.0-2.fc25, which seems to be working OK.  The problem appears 
>>> to be known but not widespread (see 
>>> e.g.https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Firefox/Gah-Your-tab-just-crashed/td-p/1376077)
>>>  and no cure seems to be available on the web.  
>>>
>>> Has anyone on the list seen it?
>> I hitting it too :-(
>>
>> I'm also on KDE.
>>
>> Where did you find the previous version (firefox-49.0-2.fc25)?
> Oh ... firefox-49.0-2.fc25 is base fc25 version :-(
>
> Does anyone know where to find firefox-52.0-7.fc25.x86_64 ?

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=873028


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Re: Firefox -- "Gah. Your tab just crashed"

[patman]

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 05:56:17PM -0700, pat...@aracnet.com wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:41:01AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> > I've go so many messages like this from the most recent firefox that it is 
> > unusable.  I have tried removing all extensions, etc. and disabling 
> > hardware acceleration, but without any improvement.  Therefor I downgraded 
> > to firefox-49.0-2.fc25, which seems to be working OK.  The problem appears 
> > to be known but not widespread (see 
> > e.g.https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Firefox/Gah-Your-tab-just-crashed/td-p/1376077)
> >  and no cure seems to be available on the web.  
> > 
> > Has anyone on the list seen it?
> 
> I hitting it too :-(
> 
> I'm also on KDE.
> 
> Where did you find the previous version (firefox-49.0-2.fc25)?

Oh ... firefox-49.0-2.fc25 is base fc25 version :-(

Does anyone know where to find firefox-52.0-7.fc25.x86_64 ?

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Re: Firefox -- "Gah. Your tab just crashed"

[patman]

On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 11:41:01AM -0700, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:
> I've go so many messages like this from the most recent firefox that it is 
> unusable.  I have tried removing all extensions, etc. and disabling hardware 
> acceleration, but without any improvement.  Therefor I downgraded to 
> firefox-49.0-2.fc25, which seems to be working OK.  The problem appears to be 
> known but not widespread (see 
> e.g.https://support.mozilla.org/t5/Firefox/Gah-Your-tab-just-crashed/td-p/1376077)
>  and no cure seems to be available on the web.  
> 
> Has anyone on the list seen it?

I hitting it too :-(

I'm also on KDE.

Where did you find the previous version (firefox-49.0-2.fc25)?

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Re: VNC Window Manager won't start

[Rick Stevens]

On 04/14/2017 12:53 PM, Chris Kottaridis wrote:
> 
> 
> On 4/14/2017 12:38 PM, stan wrote:
>> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 02:02:19 -0500
>> Chris Kottaridis  wrote:
>>
>>> I have a Fedora 25 installation that was setup originally with server
>>> installation and have since added gnome desktop package groups and
>>> others.
>>>
>>> On the console I get a standard non-graphical login prompt and from
>>> there I can type startx and get into gnome just fine.
>>>
>>> I don't want to change that.
>>>
>>> I do want to use VNC to connect in over net and run gnome. I have
>> [snip]
>>  
>>> Before any of the exec lines those apps seem to be running.
>>>
>>> Just no window manager.
>>>
>>> Any pointers would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> I want to keep the console with an ASCII login and then use startx to
>>> get a GUI from the console, but I want to also be able to get a GUI
>>> via VNC
>> I have a script that I run in multiuser that allows me to select which
>> desktop I will use when I run startx.  It acts like a text greeter.
>> This is an edited version of what I have in that script that could be
>> used to always start Gnome.
>>
>> XCLIENTS=/home/$USER/.Xclients
>>
>> echo '*** Replacing existing ~/.Xclients or creating new one.'
>> echo '#! /bin/bash' > $XCLIENTS
>> echo ' ' >> $XCLIENTS
>> chmod +x $XCLIENTS
>> echo 'GSESSION="$(type -p gnome-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
>> echo 'exec $GSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
>> echo 'Starting X with Gnome...'
>> startx -- vt10
>> exit 0
> 
> I think I need to be more careful as I might have interchanged startx
> and xstartup. When I log into the console via an ASCII login I can run
> startx and everything is fine.
> 
> When  vncserver starts it runs the xstartup script, and I know it is
> indeed running that because I can see output differences as I make
> changes. It just doesn't seem to be getting a Window Manager going

It's been a while, but IIRC just doing "startx" brings up a greeter
(such as lightdm or sddm-greeter). You log into the greeter (that's
your authentication step) and select the type of session you want
(Gnome, XFCE, KDE, whatever). startx uses that to eventually call xinit
and pass it the session manager you want to run. The session manager is
supposed to start the appropriate window manager.

If you looked at my script, we bypass the greeter (the machines are only
accessed via a VPN so authentication is unnecessary), so when Xvnc
starts, it "assumes" we're already authenticated. Our ~/.vnc/xstartup
script just starts Xfce4 via Xfce4's startup script. That script (and
others it calls) loads Xfce's session manager (xfce4-session) which, in
turn, loads it's window manager (xfwm4). Et tu, voila! (or something
like that--my romance language skills are awful)
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Re: VNC Window Manager won't start

[Chris Kottaridis]

On 4/14/2017 12:38 PM, stan wrote:

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 02:02:19 -0500
Chris Kottaridis  wrote:


I have a Fedora 25 installation that was setup originally with server
installation and have since added gnome desktop package groups and
others.

On the console I get a standard non-graphical login prompt and from
there I can type startx and get into gnome just fine.

I don't want to change that.

I do want to use VNC to connect in over net and run gnome. I have

[snip]
  

Before any of the exec lines those apps seem to be running.

Just no window manager.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

I want to keep the console with an ASCII login and then use startx to
get a GUI from the console, but I want to also be able to get a GUI
via VNC

I have a script that I run in multiuser that allows me to select which
desktop I will use when I run startx.  It acts like a text greeter.
This is an edited version of what I have in that script that could be
used to always start Gnome.

XCLIENTS=/home/$USER/.Xclients

echo '*** Replacing existing ~/.Xclients or creating new one.'
echo '#! /bin/bash' > $XCLIENTS
echo ' ' >> $XCLIENTS
chmod +x $XCLIENTS
echo 'GSESSION="$(type -p gnome-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec $GSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with Gnome...'
startx -- vt10
exit 0


I think I need to be more careful as I might have interchanged startx 
and xstartup. When I log into the console via an ASCII login I can run 
startx and everything is fine.


When  vncserver starts it runs the xstartup script, and I know it is 
indeed running that because I can see output differences as I make 
changes. It just doesn't seem to be getting a Window Manager going


Thanks
Chris K


Perhaps you can adapt it to your needs.
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Re: VNC Window Manager won't start

[Chris Kottaridis]

On 4/14/2017 12:03 PM, Rick Stevens wrote:

On 04/14/2017 12:02 AM, Chris Kottaridis wrote:

I have a Fedora 25 installation that was setup originally with server
installation and have since added gnome desktop package groups and others.

On the console I get a standard non-graphical login prompt and from
there I can type startx and get into gnome just fine.

I don't want to change that.

I do want to use VNC to connect in over net and run gnome. I have
everything setup but when I connect into the VNC I initially got a blank
screen. I can get more than a blank screen by changing my local user's
xstartup script. For example if I add "gnome-terminal &" I'll have a
gnome terminal up on the blank screen just fine. I can add vncconfig
-iconic and that will be up as well.

However there is no window manager running so I can't move these windows
and while I can start other applications from the gnome-terminal I have
up I don't get the graphical icons available to click on to start programs.

Clearly I can not seem to get a window manager to startup.

I tried the default xstartup:
#!/bin/sh

unset SESSION_MANAGER
unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

and another example called xstartup.gnome-try:

#!/bin/sh
[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vns/startup
[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $Home/.Xresources

if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then
eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax -exit-with-session`
echo "D-BUS per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"
fi
exec gnome-session

Like I said if I add lines like

gnome-terminal &

or

vnccnfig -icon &

Before any of the exec lines those apps seem to be running.

Just no window manager.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

I want to keep the console with an ASCII login and then use startx to
get a GUI from the console, but I want to also be able to get a GUI via VNC

Have you thought of running a separate Xvnc server on the machine? Xvnc
creates a virtual X server that's not tied to the physical
display/keyboard/mouse on the machine.

You'll need to put a ~/.vnc/xstartup script in the desktop user's home
directory, something like this (which we use to start Xfce on the Xvnc
"display"):

unset SESSION_MANAGER
unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
startxfce4 &

The ~/.vnc/xstartup script will be executed by vncserver when it starts
up in order to establish the desktop environment.

Once you've created
the file, that's done, as
that desktop user, run vncserver:

/usr/bin/vncserver -geometry 1600x900

Remote VNC clients can access the machine via a GUI by connecting
something like:

vncviewer server-IP-address:1

and get a completely separate X session from any others you wish to run
from the server's console. We do this on a couple of servers in our
data center where we must use a GUI interface. I think that'll do what
you want.

Should you wish to, you can even make this work essentially on demand
from xinetd. I've not done it, but it's possible.


This is what I have done. I just have systemd start up vncserver 
automatically:


# systemctl enable vncserver@:1
# systemctl start vncserver@:1

It is clearly running my startx when I start it. I can tell a couple of 
ways:


1. I put in various echo statements that redirected output to a file and 
they all showed up


2. I actually get some X applications when I add them to startx when I 
login. So doing


#!/bin/sh
[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vns/startup
[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $Home/.Xresources

if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then
eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax -exit-with-session`
echo "D-BUS per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"
fi
vncconfig -iconic &
gnome-terminal &
exec gnome-session

When I log in using a vncviewer, the vncconfig and gnome-terminal are 
running and working fine. I can also see a gnome-session-binary 
executable running via ps and various GUI related commands running via 
the ps command, that disappear when I run systemctl stop vncserver@:1.


I can use the gnome-terminal application just fine.

However, the application is not "wrapped" in a border and  I can't move 
the gnome-terminal around on the screen, nor is there an Activity option 
to select applications to run.


The problem seems to be that there is no Window manager running to move 
windows around and give me the icons to start other applications.


I am sure it's some configuration thing. Might be related to the fact 
that I did a server installation instead of a workstation installation. 
Then later added the X and Gnome group packages and others. This worked 
out for the console which I want to have a standard ASCII login rather 
then a graphics login. Once I get logged in on the console I can run 
startx and I get gnome and everything is fine.


I want to keep the console exactly as it is, but I'd also like to be 
able to VNC in to a GUI environment because the console is hard to get to.


Is there some 

Re: VNC Window Manager won't start

[stan]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 02:02:19 -0500
Chris Kottaridis  wrote:

> I have a Fedora 25 installation that was setup originally with server 
> installation and have since added gnome desktop package groups and
> others.
> 
> On the console I get a standard non-graphical login prompt and from 
> there I can type startx and get into gnome just fine.
> 
> I don't want to change that.
> 
> I do want to use VNC to connect in over net and run gnome. I have 

[snip]
 
> Before any of the exec lines those apps seem to be running.
> 
> Just no window manager.
> 
> Any pointers would be appreciated.
> 
> I want to keep the console with an ASCII login and then use startx to 
> get a GUI from the console, but I want to also be able to get a GUI
> via VNC

I have a script that I run in multiuser that allows me to select which
desktop I will use when I run startx.  It acts like a text greeter.
This is an edited version of what I have in that script that could be
used to always start Gnome.

XCLIENTS=/home/$USER/.Xclients

echo '*** Replacing existing ~/.Xclients or creating new one.'
echo '#! /bin/bash' > $XCLIENTS
echo ' ' >> $XCLIENTS
chmod +x $XCLIENTS
echo 'GSESSION="$(type -p gnome-session)"' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'exec $GSESSION' >> $XCLIENTS
echo 'Starting X with Gnome...'
startx -- vt10  
exit 0

Perhaps you can adapt it to your needs.
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Re: Cannot chvt away from X (with radeon driver)

[stan]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 07:51:33 -0500
Ian Pilcher  wrote:

> On 04/13/2017 10:07 PM, stan wrote:
> > On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:21:14 -0500
> > Ian Pilcher  wrote:
> >   
> >> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99841  
> > 
> > I'm surprised I didn't see that error.  I've used all those kernel
> > versions without any problem switching to a vt.  
> 
> AFAICT, it only hits if the framebuffer resolution changes when you
> switch VTs.  I have 2 1920x1200 displays and 1 2560x1440, so switching
> from an X VT to a text VT changes the framebuffer resolution on the
> larger monitor to 1920x1200.

That explains why I didn't see it.  I'm a poor, deprived user with
only one monitor.  :-) 
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Re: VNC Window Manager won't start

[Rick Stevens]

On 04/14/2017 12:02 AM, Chris Kottaridis wrote:
> I have a Fedora 25 installation that was setup originally with server
> installation and have since added gnome desktop package groups and others.
> 
> On the console I get a standard non-graphical login prompt and from
> there I can type startx and get into gnome just fine.
> 
> I don't want to change that.
> 
> I do want to use VNC to connect in over net and run gnome. I have
> everything setup but when I connect into the VNC I initially got a blank
> screen. I can get more than a blank screen by changing my local user's
> xstartup script. For example if I add "gnome-terminal &" I'll have a
> gnome terminal up on the blank screen just fine. I can add vncconfig
> -iconic and that will be up as well.
> 
> However there is no window manager running so I can't move these windows
> and while I can start other applications from the gnome-terminal I have
> up I don't get the graphical icons available to click on to start programs.
> 
> Clearly I can not seem to get a window manager to startup.
> 
> I tried the default xstartup:
> #!/bin/sh
> 
> unset SESSION_MANAGER
> unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
> exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc
> 
> and another example called xstartup.gnome-try:
> 
> #!/bin/sh
> [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vns/startup
> [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $Home/.Xresources
> 
> if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then
> eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax -exit-with-session`
> echo "D-BUS per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"
> fi
> exec gnome-session
> 
> Like I said if I add lines like
> 
> gnome-terminal &
> 
> or
> 
> vnccnfig -icon &
> 
> Before any of the exec lines those apps seem to be running.
> 
> Just no window manager.
> 
> Any pointers would be appreciated.
> 
> I want to keep the console with an ASCII login and then use startx to
> get a GUI from the console, but I want to also be able to get a GUI via VNC

Have you thought of running a separate Xvnc server on the machine? Xvnc
creates a virtual X server that's not tied to the physical
display/keyboard/mouse on the machine.

You'll need to put a ~/.vnc/xstartup script in the desktop user's home
directory, something like this (which we use to start Xfce on the Xvnc
"display"):

unset SESSION_MANAGER
unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
startxfce4 &

The ~/.vnc/xstartup script will be executed by vncserver when it starts
up in order to establish the desktop environment.

Once you've created
the file, that's done, as
that desktop user, run vncserver:

/usr/bin/vncserver -geometry 1600x900

Remote VNC clients can access the machine via a GUI by connecting
something like:

vncviewer server-IP-address:1

and get a completely separate X session from any others you wish to run
from the server's console. We do this on a couple of servers in our
data center where we must use a GUI interface. I think that'll do what
you want.

Should you wish to, you can even make this work essentially on demand
from xinetd. I've not done it, but it's possible.
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emacs crashes repeatedly on a C file

[Ranjan Maitra]

While editing a file in C,  I have been having emacs crash on me repeatedly. 
Here is the error I get: 

Fatal error 11: Segmentation fault
Backtrace:
emacs[0x50ac9c]
emacs[0x4f114c]
emacs[0x50945e]
emacs[0x509689]
emacs[0x5096ef]
/lib64/libpthread.so.0(+0x115c0)[0x7f610b7205c0]
emacs[0x53af6b]
emacs[0x53850a]
emacs[0x4a983b]
emacs[0x4ada9f]
emacs[0x4446b0]
emacs[0x44eafe]
emacs[0x451268]
emacs[0x46544e]
emacs[0x46852b]
emacs[0x5644be]
emacs[0x43227d]
emacs[0x454dd9]
emacs[0x456cb5]
emacs[0x41f0de]
emacs[0x565d20]
emacs[0x59adf3]
emacs[0x565b1b]
emacs[0x59adf3]
emacs[0x565b1b]
emacs[0x59adf3]
emacs[0x565b1b]
emacs[0x565de8]
emacs[0x5645e6]
emacs[0x4f1d14]
emacs[0x563e85]
emacs[0x4f6407]
emacs[0x4ffdab]
emacs[0x564432]
emacs[0x4f1614]
emacs[0x5643d3]
emacs[0x4f15d0]
emacs[0x4f5dd7]
emacs[0x4f6128]
emacs[0x419d52]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf1)[0x7f610af25401]
...
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

Any idea what I should be looking at for debugging? Btw, the error seems to be 
happening when I am deleting and adding characters to a long line in the file. 

Ranjan



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Re: i want to install a package from debian to fedora

[poma]

On 14.04.2017 16:11, Amir-Trend Plus wrote:
> Hi,
> for the alien thing, i've tried downloading the deb package, convert
> using alien but no go. it cannot installed the rpm.
> as for the espeak-ng and espeak are same or not, actually in 2006
> untul 2014, the synthesizer is called espeak, but for some reason the
> person who developed this dont know where he  goes, so a new person
> take over this project, rename the espeak to espeak-ng while providing
> updates and impprovements to it, such as adding more languages to this
> speech synthesizer. So, the new driver that i want, in fedora the
> package espeak-ng is available, but without the driver to communicate
> between speech-dispatcher and the espeak-ng, my screen reader wont
> know how to use  that espeak-ng. In debian, there ar two, one the
> speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng that i gave the url before, and the other
> is the library for espeak-ng, libespeak-ng1,
> https://packages.debian.org/sid/libespeak-ng1
> so, the espeak is the older version of the synthesizer, espeak-ng,
> stands for new generation, is newer and has many languages added.
> thanks for the help, hope to get this solved! :)
> 

Looks like debian can build with both versions, ...
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/tts/speech-dispatcher.git/tree/configure#n1599
  --with-espeak   Compile with espeak support
  --with-espeak-ngCompile with espeak-ng support

... therefore the result is:
$ ldd 
./speech-dispatcher-espeak_0.8.6-4_amd64/usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak
 | grep speak
libespeak.so.1 => /lib64/libespeak.so.1 (0x7f7079cb4000)
$ ldd 
./speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64/usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak-ng
 | grep speak
libespeak-ng.so.1 => not found

Here is the package info:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/package/rpms/speech-dispatcher

Perhaps Peter and Ondřej can help?


Ref.
"Set the default output module to espeak-ng"
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/tts/speech-dispatcher.git/commit/?id=5a742484f439bf3eb155ac3278189987259b17c8
"how to make orca use espeak-ng on fedora 25"
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2017-February/msg00213.html


> 2017-04-14 13:07 GMT+08:00, poma :
>> On 14.04.2017 01:06, Amir-Trend Plus wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> i am a new user here, using fedora 25 with a screen reader. Since i
>>> use the assistive technology, i need to use a package, not one i
>>> think, maybe two, packages from debian. The first one, adds support
>>> for the new voice available on fedora, called, espeak-ng. It needs a
>>> driver to communicate with my speech-dispatcher, an interface that
>>> will provide speech using the synthesizer. Unfortunately, the driver
>>> is not availablne in .rpm, but in debian it is available. Both debian
>>> and rpm are using the 0.86 version of this app, so i think it is not
>>> an issue of version. I tried alien and when installing, it said
>>> conflict with file. I also cannot find the source package for this.
>>> The package i mean is, speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng, available from
>>> this link,
>>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/main/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng
>>> if anyone can convert it to rpm and i can install it, it will be great!
>>>
>>
>> $ dpkg -I speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | grep Homepage
>> -A12
>>  Homepage: http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
>>  Description: Speech Dispatcher: Espeak-ng output module
>>   Speech Dispatcher provides a device independent layer for speech
>> synthesis.
>>   It supports various software and hardware speech synthesizers as
>>   backends and provides a generic layer for synthesizing speech and
>>   playing back PCM data via those different backends to applications.
>>   .
>>   Various high level concepts like enqueueing vs. interrupting speech and
>>   application specific user configurations are implemented in a device
>>   independent way, therefore freeing the application programmer from
>>   having to yet again reinvent the wheel.
>>   .
>>   This package contains the output module for the espeak-ng speech
>> synthesizer.
>>
>> $ dpkg -c speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | awk '{print $6}'
>> ./
>> ./usr/
>> ./usr/lib/
>> ./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/
>> ./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak-ng
>> ./usr/share/
>> ./usr/share/doc/
>> ./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/
>> ./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/changelog.Debian.gz
>> ./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/copyright
>>
>>
>> $ rpm -qilp speech-dispatcher-espeak-0.8.6-1.fc25.x86_64.rpm | grep URL -A
>> 9
>> URL : http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
>> Summary : Speech Dispatcher espeak module
>> Description :
>> This package contains the espeak output module for Speech Dispatcher.
>> /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf
>> /usr/lib64/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak
>>
>>
>> Are these two essentially the same module/driver?
>>
> 
> 

Re: i want to install a package from debian to fedora

[Joachim Backes]

On 04/14/17 16:11, Amir-Trend Plus wrote:

Hi,
for the alien thing, i've tried downloading the deb package, convert
using alien but no go. it cannot installed the rpm.
as for the espeak-ng and espeak are same or not, actually in 2006
untul 2014, the synthesizer is called espeak, but for some reason the
person who developed this dont know where he  goes, so a new person
take over this project, rename the espeak to espeak-ng while providing
updates and impprovements to it, such as adding more languages to this
speech synthesizer. So, the new driver that i want, in fedora the
package espeak-ng is available, but without the driver to communicate
between speech-dispatcher and the espeak-ng, my screen reader wont
know how to use  that espeak-ng. In debian, there ar two, one the
speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng that i gave the url before, and the other
is the library for espeak-ng, libespeak-ng1,
https://packages.debian.org/sid/libespeak-ng1
so, the espeak is the older version of the synthesizer, espeak-ng,
stands for new generation, is newer and has many languages added.
thanks for the help, hope to get this solved! :)

2017-04-14 13:07 GMT+08:00, poma :

On 14.04.2017 01:06, Amir-Trend Plus wrote:

Hi,
i am a new user here, using fedora 25 with a screen reader. Since i
use the assistive technology, i need to use a package, not one i
think, maybe two, packages from debian. The first one, adds support
for the new voice available on fedora, called, espeak-ng. It needs a
driver to communicate with my speech-dispatcher, an interface that
will provide speech using the synthesizer. Unfortunately, the driver
is not availablne in .rpm, but in debian it is available. Both debian
and rpm are using the 0.86 version of this app, so i think it is not
an issue of version. I tried alien and when installing, it said
conflict with file. I also cannot find the source package for this.
The package i mean is, speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng, available from
this link,
https://packages.debian.org/sid/main/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng
if anyone can convert it to rpm and i can install it, it will be great!



$ dpkg -I speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | grep Homepage
-A12
  Homepage: http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
  Description: Speech Dispatcher: Espeak-ng output module
   Speech Dispatcher provides a device independent layer for speech
synthesis.
   It supports various software and hardware speech synthesizers as
   backends and provides a generic layer for synthesizing speech and
   playing back PCM data via those different backends to applications.
   .
   Various high level concepts like enqueueing vs. interrupting speech and
   application specific user configurations are implemented in a device
   independent way, therefore freeing the application programmer from
   having to yet again reinvent the wheel.
   .
   This package contains the output module for the espeak-ng speech
synthesizer.

$ dpkg -c speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | awk '{print $6}'
./
./usr/
./usr/lib/
./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/
./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak-ng
./usr/share/
./usr/share/doc/
./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/
./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/changelog.Debian.gz
./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/copyright


$ rpm -qilp speech-dispatcher-espeak-0.8.6-1.fc25.x86_64.rpm | grep URL -A
9
URL : http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
Summary : Speech Dispatcher espeak module
Description :
This package contains the espeak output module for Speech Dispatcher.
/etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf
/usr/lib64/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak


Are these two essentially the same module/driver?





Success! I could install espeak-ng in Fedora 25 !!

See:

sudo dnf install espeak-ng
Last metadata expiration check: 2:46:22 ago on Fri Apr 14 13:50:38 2017.
Dependencies resolved.

 PackageArch   VersionRepository 
   Size


Installing:
 espeak-ng  x86_64 1.49.1-2.fc25  updates 
  1.5 M
 pcaudiolib x86_64 1.0-3.fc25 fedora 
   26 k


Transaction Summary

Install  2 Packages

Total download size: 1.5 M
Installed size: 3.3 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
(1/2): pcaudiolib-1.0-3.fc25.x86_64.rpm  93 kB/s |  26 kB 
00:00
(2/2): espeak-ng-1.49.1-2.fc25.x86_64.rpm   4.8 MB/s | 1.5 MB 
00:00


Total   931 kB/s | 1.5 MB 
00:01

Running transaction check
Transaction check succeeded.
Running transaction test
Transaction test succeeded.
Running transaction
  Installing  : 

Re: i want to install a package from debian to fedora

[Joachim Backes]

On 04/14/17 16:11, Amir-Trend Plus wrote:

Hi,
for the alien thing, i've tried downloading the deb package, convert
using alien but no go. it cannot installed the rpm.
as for the espeak-ng and espeak are same or not, actually in 2006
untul 2014, the synthesizer is called espeak, but for some reason the
person who developed this dont know where he  goes, so a new person
take over this project, rename the espeak to espeak-ng while providing
updates and impprovements to it, such as adding more languages to this
speech synthesizer. So, the new driver that i want, in fedora the
package espeak-ng is available, but without the driver to communicate
between speech-dispatcher and the espeak-ng, my screen reader wont
know how to use  that espeak-ng. In debian, there ar two, one the
speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng that i gave the url before, and the other
is the library for espeak-ng, libespeak-ng1,
https://packages.debian.org/sid/libespeak-ng1
so, the espeak is the older version of the synthesizer, espeak-ng,
stands for new generation, is newer and has many languages added.
thanks for the help, hope to get this solved! :)

2017-04-14 13:07 GMT+08:00, poma :

On 14.04.2017 01:06, Amir-Trend Plus wrote:

Hi,
i am a new user here, using fedora 25 with a screen reader. Since i
use the assistive technology, i need to use a package, not one i
think, maybe two, packages from debian. The first one, adds support
for the new voice available on fedora, called, espeak-ng. It needs a
driver to communicate with my speech-dispatcher, an interface that
will provide speech using the synthesizer. Unfortunately, the driver
is not availablne in .rpm, but in debian it is available. Both debian
and rpm are using the 0.86 version of this app, so i think it is not
an issue of version. I tried alien and when installing, it said
conflict with file. I also cannot find the source package for this.
The package i mean is, speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng, available from
this link,
https://packages.debian.org/sid/main/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng
if anyone can convert it to rpm and i can install it, it will be great!



$ dpkg -I speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | grep Homepage
-A12
  Homepage: http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
  Description: Speech Dispatcher: Espeak-ng output module
   Speech Dispatcher provides a device independent layer for speech
synthesis.
   It supports various software and hardware speech synthesizers as
   backends and provides a generic layer for synthesizing speech and
   playing back PCM data via those different backends to applications.
   .
   Various high level concepts like enqueueing vs. interrupting speech and
   application specific user configurations are implemented in a device
   independent way, therefore freeing the application programmer from
   having to yet again reinvent the wheel.
   .
   This package contains the output module for the espeak-ng speech
synthesizer.

$ dpkg -c speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | awk '{print $6}'
./
./usr/
./usr/lib/
./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/
./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak-ng
./usr/share/
./usr/share/doc/
./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/
./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/changelog.Debian.gz
./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/copyright


$ rpm -qilp speech-dispatcher-espeak-0.8.6-1.fc25.x86_64.rpm | grep URL -A
9
URL : http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
Summary : Speech Dispatcher espeak module
Description :
This package contains the espeak output module for Speech Dispatcher.
/etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf
/usr/lib64/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak


Are these two essentially the same module/driver?






Hi Amri-Trend,

did you have a look at rpmfind.net? Searching for espeak-ng returns the 
result page 
"https://www.rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=espeak-ng=Search+...==;, 
and there you will find some binary rpms and source rpm's too. You can 
try to install a binary rpm, or, if no success, you can try to download 
the source rpm and recompile it.


Kind regards

Joachim Backes




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Re: i want to install a package from debian to fedora

[Amir-Trend Plus]

Hi,
for the alien thing, i've tried downloading the deb package, convert
using alien but no go. it cannot installed the rpm.
as for the espeak-ng and espeak are same or not, actually in 2006
untul 2014, the synthesizer is called espeak, but for some reason the
person who developed this dont know where he  goes, so a new person
take over this project, rename the espeak to espeak-ng while providing
updates and impprovements to it, such as adding more languages to this
speech synthesizer. So, the new driver that i want, in fedora the
package espeak-ng is available, but without the driver to communicate
between speech-dispatcher and the espeak-ng, my screen reader wont
know how to use  that espeak-ng. In debian, there ar two, one the
speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng that i gave the url before, and the other
is the library for espeak-ng, libespeak-ng1,
https://packages.debian.org/sid/libespeak-ng1
so, the espeak is the older version of the synthesizer, espeak-ng,
stands for new generation, is newer and has many languages added.
thanks for the help, hope to get this solved! :)

2017-04-14 13:07 GMT+08:00, poma :
> On 14.04.2017 01:06, Amir-Trend Plus wrote:
>> Hi,
>> i am a new user here, using fedora 25 with a screen reader. Since i
>> use the assistive technology, i need to use a package, not one i
>> think, maybe two, packages from debian. The first one, adds support
>> for the new voice available on fedora, called, espeak-ng. It needs a
>> driver to communicate with my speech-dispatcher, an interface that
>> will provide speech using the synthesizer. Unfortunately, the driver
>> is not availablne in .rpm, but in debian it is available. Both debian
>> and rpm are using the 0.86 version of this app, so i think it is not
>> an issue of version. I tried alien and when installing, it said
>> conflict with file. I also cannot find the source package for this.
>> The package i mean is, speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng, available from
>> this link,
>> https://packages.debian.org/sid/main/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng
>> if anyone can convert it to rpm and i can install it, it will be great!
>>
>
> $ dpkg -I speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | grep Homepage
> -A12
>  Homepage: http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
>  Description: Speech Dispatcher: Espeak-ng output module
>   Speech Dispatcher provides a device independent layer for speech
> synthesis.
>   It supports various software and hardware speech synthesizers as
>   backends and provides a generic layer for synthesizing speech and
>   playing back PCM data via those different backends to applications.
>   .
>   Various high level concepts like enqueueing vs. interrupting speech and
>   application specific user configurations are implemented in a device
>   independent way, therefore freeing the application programmer from
>   having to yet again reinvent the wheel.
>   .
>   This package contains the output module for the espeak-ng speech
> synthesizer.
>
> $ dpkg -c speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng_0.8.6-4_amd64.deb | awk '{print $6}'
> ./
> ./usr/
> ./usr/lib/
> ./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/
> ./usr/lib/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak-ng
> ./usr/share/
> ./usr/share/doc/
> ./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/
> ./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/changelog.Debian.gz
> ./usr/share/doc/speech-dispatcher-espeak-ng/copyright
>
>
> $ rpm -qilp speech-dispatcher-espeak-0.8.6-1.fc25.x86_64.rpm | grep URL -A
> 9
> URL : http://devel.freebsoft.org/speechd
> Summary : Speech Dispatcher espeak module
> Description :
> This package contains the espeak output module for Speech Dispatcher.
> /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules/espeak.conf
> /usr/lib64/speech-dispatcher-modules/sd_espeak
>
>
> Are these two essentially the same module/driver?
>


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Re: Cannot chvt away from X (with radeon driver)

[Ian Pilcher]

On 04/13/2017 10:21 AM, Ian Pilcher wrote:

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99841


BTW, this appears to be fixed in 4.11.0-0.rc6.git3.1.fc25.x86_64, which
I built from this SRPM:


https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org//packages/kernel/4.11.0/0.rc6.git3.1.fc27/src/kernel-4.11.0-0.rc6.git3.1.fc27.src.rpm

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Re: Cannot chvt away from X (with radeon driver)

[Ian Pilcher]

On 04/13/2017 10:07 PM, stan wrote:

On Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:21:14 -0500
Ian Pilcher  wrote:


https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99841


I'm surprised I didn't see that error.  I've used all those kernel
versions without any problem switching to a vt.


AFAICT, it only hits if the framebuffer resolution changes when you
switch VTs.  I have 2 1920x1200 displays and 1 2560x1440, so switching
from an X VT to a text VT changes the framebuffer resolution on the
larger monitor to 1920x1200.

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gdm won't start gnome (wayland) session after running once a gnome-classic session

[Joachim Backes]

Hi all,

normally, I'm using a gnome (wayland) desktop sessions. If I started 
(only once) the gnome classic session, then logging out and 
thenre-logging in again with the usage of gnome (wayland), I still get a 
gnome classic session. Only after restarting my box, I can again run 
gnome (wayland) sessions.


My login manager is gdm.

Anybody sees this too?

Kind regards

Joachim Backes
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Re: kernel 4.9.14-200

[Jeandet Alexis]

Hi,

I have the feeling that on two of my Zenbook(one running F25, one
running F26) I face the same issue. But I have an intel GPU, what makes
you think that this is related to nouveau(BZ 1435000)?
Since few kernel releases maybe 4.10+ and also 4.11 my laptops doesn't
resume all the time from sleep, most of the time I have to restart
them.

Best regards,
Alexis.
Le jeudi 06 avril 2017 à 22:05 -0700, Paolo Galtieri a écrit :
> Folks,
>    one of my systems suffers from a bug (BZ 1435000) in the latest
> 4.10 
> kernels in which the monitor attached to the system does not wake up 
> from sleep requiring me to reboot the system to recover. During the 
> latest updates the 4.9.19 kernel was removed from my system, and is
> no 
> longer available from the repositories.  Is there any way to make
> this 
> kernel available so that I can re-install it to avoid rebooting the 
> system if I step away from it for a while when running a 4.10
> kernel?  
> This issue may apply to others as well.
> 
> Any assistance is appreciated.
> 
> Paolo
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Re: [F25] issue with SSL connexions: Failure of SSL transaction with

[Frédéric Bron]

My ISP changed some configuration but it did not improve the situation.
They asked me if docs.python.org was the only site that caused
troubles and I tried to find others but was not able. So it seems that
it is only docs.python.org.
Frédéric
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VNC Window Manager won't start

[Chris Kottaridis]

I have a Fedora 25 installation that was setup originally with server 
installation and have since added gnome desktop package groups and others.


On the console I get a standard non-graphical login prompt and from 
there I can type startx and get into gnome just fine.


I don't want to change that.

I do want to use VNC to connect in over net and run gnome. I have 
everything setup but when I connect into the VNC I initially got a blank 
screen. I can get more than a blank screen by changing my local user's 
xstartup script. For example if I add "gnome-terminal &" I'll have a 
gnome terminal up on the blank screen just fine. I can add vncconfig 
-iconic and that will be up as well.


However there is no window manager running so I can't move these windows 
and while I can start other applications from the gnome-terminal I have 
up I don't get the graphical icons available to click on to start programs.


Clearly I can not seem to get a window manager to startup.

I tried the default xstartup:
#!/bin/sh

unset SESSION_MANAGER
unset DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS
exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc

and another example called xstartup.gnome-try:

#!/bin/sh
[ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vns/startup
[ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $Home/.Xresources

if test -z "$DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS" ; then
eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax -exit-with-session`
echo "D-BUS per-session daemon address is: $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS"
fi
exec gnome-session

Like I said if I add lines like

gnome-terminal &

or

vnccnfig -icon &

Before any of the exec lines those apps seem to be running.

Just no window manager.

Any pointers would be appreciated.

I want to keep the console with an ASCII login and then use startx to 
get a GUI from the console, but I want to also be able to get a GUI via VNC


Thanks

Chris K

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