Re: hdmi monitor blanks when starting some apps

[DJ Delorie]

Rick Stevens  writes:
> Is the window for the app on the HDMI monitor?

No.

> It may simply be that the monitor is adapting to the size of the
> display desired.

I have four monitors configured as one desktop, they should never change
resolution.
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Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

[William Mattison]

I wasn't fully convinced these problems are due to the battery.  That's why I 
listed the four things I found "odd".  On the other hand, I recall hearing and 
reading that the output of lithium batteries is almost flat (better than any 
other type of battery), but then very quickly drops (faster than any other type 
of battery) as it reaches end-of-life.

Back to diagnosing the real cause of the problems...

Is there a Fedora command that I can use to check the hard drive (not the file 
systems) for bad blocks, sectors, tracks, etc?  Is there a Fedora command that 
I can use to check the controller?

Both problems occurred immediately after doing a "dnf upgrade".  What is that 
telling us?  Does "dnf upgrade" access the hard drive or the controller in a 
way that normal daily use does not?  Is there something different about the 
first boot after a "dnf upgrade" vs other boots?  I shut down every night, and 
boot up every morning.

When I bought the system 4+ years ago, I bought separate parts.  This is a DIY 
desktop.  I was advised to buy more power supply than needed.  I did so.  So 
unless the power supply is failing, I would think it's not a good candidate for 
the cause of the two problems.  There have been no problems until this month, 
and I've been doing weekly patches since I got the system in 2013.

I was/am not in the mood to change the battery!  Since I've already bought the 
new one and have no other use for it, and since the old one is 4+ years old, I 
plan to change the battery either Friday or Saturday.  But you know what they 
say: "If you want to make God laugh, tell Him your plans!".  I did watch the 
youtube that Tim provided.  I don't recall seeing screws on the underside of 
the motherboard.  I'll look again Friday or Saturday (God willing!).

Thanks,
Bill.
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Re: hdmi monitor blanks when starting some apps

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/30/2017 05:46 PM, DJ Delorie wrote:
> 
> I have multiple monitors on my system, one of which is HDMI (the rest
> are DP or DVI).  It's not the main monitor.  When I start some apps
> (esp games), the HDMI monitor blanks for a few seconds until the app's
> window comes up (not full screen).
> 
> Is this a normal thing?  Can it be prevented?

Is the window for the app on the HDMI monitor? It may simply be that the
monitor is adapting to the size of the display desired. If the HDMI
monitor had been displaying 1920x1080 at 60Hz and the app wants 640x480
at 50Hz (I know, not likely but useful as an example), then the monitor
has to change its settings and may blank while it does so. Can it be
prevented? In such a case probably not--it's a function of the monitor,
not the display card or video drivers.
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hdmi monitor blanks when starting some apps

[DJ Delorie]

I have multiple monitors on my system, one of which is HDMI (the rest
are DP or DVI).  It's not the main monitor.  When I start some apps
(esp games), the HDMI monitor blanks for a few seconds until the app's
window comes up (not full screen).

Is this a normal thing?  Can it be prevented?

Fedora 24
GTX980
nvidia drivers
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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/31/17 07:40, Rick Leir wrote:
> How many people like me will have a machine out of action for a week
> because that piece of doco did not jump out at them? 

I would say an extremely small number.  Why?  Because the vast majority
would be installing a desktop and using the DM supplied with that
desktop.  If a desktop uses lightDM then it would have been installed
with the necessary greeter.  I don't think many go through the trouble
to install/change their DM.  And, since many/most/some folks installing
Fedora start with GNOME the pieces needed for lightDM are already there
should they choose to install it.

FWIW, I found that nugget of documentation in the LightDM - ArchWiki
which is the only link I followed after searching on google for
lightdm.  This I did after installing only lightDM and being faced with
a blank screen. 

> Ok, Fedora does not focus on being beginner friendly, other goals like
> leading edge virtualization are more important and actually that is
> what draws me.
>
> Anyhow, let's drop the issue for now, and see if anyone else twigs on
> these words in the future. Cheers

Sounds like a plan!

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[389-users] Re: enabled account policy plugin and incrace changelog db size

[William Brown]

On Tue, 2017-05-30 at 15:42 +0300, Alparslan Ozturk wrote:
> this is my person object and it has lastlogintime (the operational
> attribute) so if many user bind the lastlogintime information updated so
> replication is started. now I am changed agreement exclude lastlogintime
> many replication is not accured. so changelogdb size slowly incrace. but
> still incrace the size.
> 
> 

I don't think you can use fractionalReplication like this. Because you
end up commiting a change on either A or B master that can't be resolved
by the other, so the cl will grow forever. 

Allow the replication of the attr :) 

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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Rick Leir]

> No, I don't think there should be a dependency that a greeter is
> installed since it is documented that you can use lightdm without a
> greeter if you have an autologin setup.

Ed,
How many people like me will have a machine out of action for a week because 
that piece of doco did not jump out at them? Ok, Fedora does not focus on being 
beginner friendly, other goals like leading edge virtualization are more 
important and actually that is what draws me.

Anyhow, let's drop the issue for now, and see if anyone else twigs on these 
words in the future. Cheers -- Rick
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Re: Video editing disaster

[Wagner Marques]

Why not fedora spin for cinelerra? It would not be great?

Wagner França Marques
954731643
967256050

2017-05-30 8:44 GMT-03:00 Wade Hampton :

> One suggestion was Cinelerra.  I tried the GG version 5.1
> and it worked.  However it would play and not stop.  Also,
> I rendered to WEBM and the result was purple.
>
> I loaded handbrake and it wanted me to erase some program
> and install a new ffmpeg.  That fixed kdenlive which now works
> great on Fedora.
>
> I hope that the developers of pitivi and OpenShot can fix the
> stability issues.
>
> Another suggestion was bandshed.  I'll have to check it out:
> > So, this http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/ was the solution for me.
>
>
> Right now, I would say video editing is a challenge.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Wade Hampton
>
>
> On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Wade Hampton 
> wrote:
>
>> I am trying out multiple video editors on Fedora, with very poor results
>> and a ton of crashes.
>> Anyone have recommendations on how to stablize one of these or can you
>> recommend a
>> video editor that just works (like kdenlive used to when I used it last a
>> year ago)?
>>
>> I am having the same results on two Fedora 25, 64-bit systems, fully
>> updated.  The packages
>> are from rpmfusion and on one of the two systems from unitedrpms.  My
>> main system is an
>> older 6-core AMD with 8G of RAM so it should handle it.
>>
>> The files I am testing with are:
>>   JPG images from a DSLR
>>   Quicktime from my DSLR (MVI_xxx.MOV),
>>   Movie from my Android phone x.m2ts
>>   Movie from a DVD xxx.mpg
>>   Movie from a digital camcorder (Sony AVCHD):   .MTS
>>
>> KDENLIVE:
>> My goto editor was Kdenlive, but it won't open files.  I keep getting
>> "clip is invalid".
>> The terminal outputs:
>>
>> mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib64/mlt/libmltavformat.so
>>   (/lib64/libavdevice.so.57: symbol av_buffersink_get_sample_aspect_ratio,
>> version LIBAVFILTER_6 not defined in file libavfilter.so.6 with link time
>> reference)
>>
>> I think there is a lib miss-match.
>>
>> PITIVI:
>> Pitivi is nice, but I can't keep it running.  Multiple core dumps.
>>
>> OPENSHOT:
>>
>> I really love OpenShot.  I tried the one from rpmfusion and it crashed
>> all the time,
>> for example when trying transitions.  I also tried the latest version via
>> AppImage:
>>
>>   OpenShot-v2.3.3-x86_64.AppImage
>>
>> This seemed much more stable, but I could still crash it with
>> transitions, adding
>> an MP3 file for audio, etc.
>>
>> Anyone have a good, stable video editor or have suggestions on how to run
>> one of these
>> in a stable platform?
>>
>> Note, I am filing bug reports on many of these crashes
>>
>> Thanks,
>> --
>> Wade Hampton
>>
>
>
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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/31/17 00:30, Rick Leir wrote:
>
> > as my cursory searches show, one needs to have a "greeter" installed
>
> Thanks for telling me, I had not heard of "greeter"s (embarrassed).
> Even though I remember FC6. Your advice is most welcome.
>
> Black screen .. that was my problem, and I was deep into X11 logs
> trying to find the fix. Do you think there should be a dependency so a
> greeter of some sort will normally get installed? I am spoiled from a
> few years of using the slick Ubuntu UI's. Now that may change, as I
> hear of drastic changes in that camp.

No, I don't think there should be a dependency that a greeter is
installed since it is documented that you can use lightdm without a
greeter if you have an autologin setup.
 
>
> Also, gtk could be a bit more defensive. Maybe I should get involved.
> The design probably uses Dependency Injection, and I would be inclined
> to code in some checks so that a friendly message goes in the log
> before a crash due to a missing / null dependency. I have done c++ UI
> code in the past, but I might be a bit rusty.
> Cheers --Rick
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I am equally brief, but that is due to it being 2AM.  :-)


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Re: post-mortem: f24 boot fails; need help.

[Tim]

On Tue, 2017-05-30 at 02:42 +, William Mattison wrote:
> The fix on Thursday, May 18 did not last.  This past Thursday, my
> workstation again failed to boot.  This time, it dropped me into an
> emergency shell, not the dracut shell.  This time, the log file was
> almost twice as long.  But it reported fsck failures again, this time
> on sda7 rather than sda6.  So I tried what my friend did, but with
> "/dev/sda7" instead of "/dev/sda6" as the command parameter.  I spent
> 30-45 minutes doing nothing but rapidly hitting the 'y' key before the
> command finally completed.  (Apparently, hundreds of i-nodes were
> corrupted this time.)  Then the workstation successfully booted.
> 
> I think I spent a week trying to get into BIOS.  But I wasn't seeing a
> BIOS screen before the grub menu showed up.  I think it was when I
> shut down and started up a different way that I finally saw the BIOS
> screen.  I quickly changed the time for the BIOS screen from 2 seconds
> to 8 seconds.  As suggested in this discussion, I checked the voltages
> and the clock.  The voltages looked fine.  The clock was about 5
> seconds slow compared to my "atomic" clock.  I adjusted that.  This
> morning, the clock seemed barely noticeably slow compared to that
> atomic clock, but by less than a second.  So I'm agreeing with your
> suspicions that the battery is getting low. 

Actually, I wouldn't call the BIOS clock being 5 seconds off much to
worry about (with regards to the battery).  They're not that
particularly accurate, to begin with, on a par with a cheap wristwatch.
However, if your battery is a few years old, you may as well replace it
now that you're in the mood to do so.  They do have a finite lifespan.

If the BIOS voltage monitors say the voltages are fine, they probably
are.  Though they're not always super accurate, either.  Software that
lets you read these values when the OS is running needs to modify them
with correction factors.

Since you talk about many file system errors, and difficulty booting,
I'm inclined to point the finger at the main power supply.  If it's not
up to the task of powering everything, or is randomly glitching, that
could cause all sorts of instabilities.

Though, as you're taking things apart.  It may well be a good idea to
unplug everything, and reconnect, just to exercise the connections
(cars, RAM, cables, etc).  Cards have a habit of walking out due to
thermal changes, or mechanical stress when moving a flimsy case around.
Clean any exposed slots (e.g. unused PCIe slots).

I just did this simple search, and there's even videos of how to change
the battery, right at the top.  Though I don't think much of one
person's crude "cut through the cover" technique.
https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ASUS+Sabertooth+Z77+bios+battery

This seems more sensible:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSTTR_WVtx0
long video, but he's done it by 4 minutes in.

Perhaps ASUS thinks that by the time the battery is crapping out, you'll
have reached the stage of wanting to buy a newer PC.

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Re: sudo su

[Rick Stevens]

On 05/29/2017 12:17 PM, fred roller wrote:
> 
>> On 05/27/2017 10:12 PM, fred roller wrote:
>>> you could run "who" to see if the root user is still logged
> on as well.
>>
>> I have a terminal open, logged in as root with su -.  When I
> ran who, it
>> just showed me, logged in once and no root.  Checking with
> uptime, it
>> shows one user.
> 
> I never heard of 'who' ;-) Unfortunately, it is true: I ran
> 'su -' and then who in another tab and in a different terminal
> emulator and it showed no root nor me as root, just me.
> 
> True, you will see the multiple instances of your log-in and their
> "terminal".  "tty" for your graphics and "pts" for terminal emulators.
> Open multiple tabs in your cli emulator and run who and you will what I
> am talking about. Running sudo invokes root privileges for your user,
> hence, no root user just your user.  You would have to set root pw and
> actually log-in with root to see the root log in.  I apologies for the
> ambiguity.

"who" shows you who is currently logged in (based on data from
/var/run/utmp or /var/log/wtmp). Since the other "su -" sessions were
spawned from the initial user's shell, "who" only shows that initial
login user since that's the only user who actually logged in and has
data in utmp or wtmp. Remember that "su -" or "sudo -i" do NOT actually
perform logins--they fork a process and run the shell in that process
handing it flags that make it ACT like a login shell.

If you do a "ps flax" and track things, you'll see that the bash
sessions with the UID of root all have parent processes that are "su -"
programs, which were in turn run by the initial logged-in user. You'll
also find their process names are "-bash" and not "bash".
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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Rick Leir]

> as my cursory searches show, one needs to have a "greeter" installed

Thanks for telling me, I had not heard of "greeter"s (embarrassed). Even though 
I remember FC6. Your advice is most welcome.

Black screen .. that was my problem, and I was deep into X11 logs trying to 
find the fix. Do you think there should be a dependency so a greeter of some 
sort will normally get installed? I am spoiled from a few years of using the 
slick Ubuntu UI's. Now that may change, as I hear of drastic changes in that 
camp. 

Also, gtk could be a bit more defensive. Maybe I should get involved. The 
design probably uses Dependency Injection, and I would be inclined to code in 
some checks so that a friendly message goes in the log before a crash due to a 
missing / null dependency. I have done c++ UI code in the past, but I might be 
a bit rusty. 
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Re: Moderator approval?

[Kevin Fenzi]

On 05/28/2017 07:30 AM, wwp wrote:

> I did that, it worked :-). Thanks!
> 
> BTW, the bounce message says:
> 
> ===
> The message is being held because:
> 
> N/A
> ===
> 
> N/A is not informative, but I'm glad you found some information about
> it, thanks again.

Yeah, it seems its a bug:

https://gitlab.com/mailman/mailman/issues/282

Hopefully it will get fixed soon.

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[389-users] Re: enabled account policy plugin and incrace changelog db size

[Alparslan Ozturk]

this is my person object and it has lastlogintime (the operational
attribute) so if many user bind the lastlogintime information updated so
replication is started. now I am changed agreement exclude lastlogintime
many replication is not accured. so changelogdb size slowly incrace. but
still incrace the size.







[image: Satır içi resim 1][image: Satır içi resim 2]

2017-05-30 1:05 GMT+03:00 William Brown :

> On Mon, 2017-05-29 at 15:05 +0300, Alparslan Ozturk wrote:
> > I am remove all agrement. then create new agrement without lastlogintime.
> > now are woring propely.  many  thanks for helps.
> >
>
> Glad that resolved it: I don't understand what the issue was caused by
> though :(
>
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>
> William Brown
> Software Engineer
> Red Hat, Australia/Brisbane
>
>
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Re: Video editing disaster

[Wade Hampton]

One suggestion was Cinelerra.  I tried the GG version 5.1
and it worked.  However it would play and not stop.  Also,
I rendered to WEBM and the result was purple.

I loaded handbrake and it wanted me to erase some program
and install a new ffmpeg.  That fixed kdenlive which now works
great on Fedora.

I hope that the developers of pitivi and OpenShot can fix the
stability issues.

Another suggestion was bandshed.  I'll have to check it out:
> So, this http://www.bandshed.net/avlinux/ was the solution for me.


Right now, I would say video editing is a challenge.

Cheers,
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On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 8:53 PM, Wade Hampton 
wrote:

> I am trying out multiple video editors on Fedora, with very poor results
> and a ton of crashes.
> Anyone have recommendations on how to stablize one of these or can you
> recommend a
> video editor that just works (like kdenlive used to when I used it last a
> year ago)?
>
> I am having the same results on two Fedora 25, 64-bit systems, fully
> updated.  The packages
> are from rpmfusion and on one of the two systems from unitedrpms.  My main
> system is an
> older 6-core AMD with 8G of RAM so it should handle it.
>
> The files I am testing with are:
>   JPG images from a DSLR
>   Quicktime from my DSLR (MVI_xxx.MOV),
>   Movie from my Android phone x.m2ts
>   Movie from a DVD xxx.mpg
>   Movie from a digital camcorder (Sony AVCHD):   .MTS
>
> KDENLIVE:
> My goto editor was Kdenlive, but it won't open files.  I keep getting
> "clip is invalid".
> The terminal outputs:
>
> mlt_repository_init: failed to dlopen /usr/lib64/mlt/libmltavformat.so
>   (/lib64/libavdevice.so.57: symbol av_buffersink_get_sample_aspect_ratio,
> version LIBAVFILTER_6 not defined in file libavfilter.so.6 with link time
> reference)
>
> I think there is a lib miss-match.
>
> PITIVI:
> Pitivi is nice, but I can't keep it running.  Multiple core dumps.
>
> OPENSHOT:
>
> I really love OpenShot.  I tried the one from rpmfusion and it crashed all
> the time,
> for example when trying transitions.  I also tried the latest version via
> AppImage:
>
>   OpenShot-v2.3.3-x86_64.AppImage
>
> This seemed much more stable, but I could still crash it with transitions,
> adding
> an MP3 file for audio, etc.
>
> Anyone have a good, stable video editor or have suggestions on how to run
> one of these
> in a stable platform?
>
> Note, I am filing bug reports on many of these crashes
>
> Thanks,
> --
> Wade Hampton
>
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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/30/17 18:39, Rick Leir wrote:
> previously had graphics card problems so there is quite a history of
> uninstall / reinstall this and that. But each time you run dnf, it
> should be checking dependencies, am I not right?
>
> Is there a way to check whether I installed something with the -f
> force option?
>
> And perhaps a way to clear out any -f flags or settings, just to make
> sure that is not a cause?


First of all, a bit of what I've done/determined to this point.

I've installed the F26 Alpha1.7 KDE spin.  This gets one sddm installed
as the default DM.  No kdm or any other DM.

If you do a simple "dnf install lightdm" it will install several
packages including lightdm and lightdm-autologin-greeter.  If you were
to then do a "systemctl --force enable lightdm.service" you would end up
at a pretty much black screen with no ability to login when you
rebooted.  This is because, as my cursory searches show, one needs to
have a "greeter" installed or have the system configured for
"autologin".  So, unless you configure things accordingly this is
expected behavior.

So, what I did was to do "dnf install lightdm
lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings" which resulted in...

Packages Altered:
Install gnome-themes-standard-3.22.3-1.fc26.x86_64  
@updates-testing
Install lightdm-1.22.0-1.fc26.x86_64
@updates-testing
Install lightdm-gobject-1.22.0-1.fc26.x86_64
@updates-testing
Install lightdm-gtk-2.0.2-4.fc26.x86_64  @fedora
Install lightdm-gtk-greeter-settings-1.2.0-6.fc26.noarch @fedora

I then rebooted and had lightdm running and a login screen which allowed
me to login my KDE desktop without issue.  No need for any of the
packages you've listed

[root@f26-a-md ~]# rpm -q gdm gnome-shell mutter
package gdm is not installed
package gnome-shell is not installed
package mutter is not installed

[root@f26-a-md ~]# ps aux | grep lightdm
root   999  0.0  0.3 363496  4864 ?SLsl 18:44   0:00
/usr/sbin/lightdm
root  1040  0.7  5.3 405320 68088 tty1 Ssl+ 18:44   0:05
/usr/libexec/Xorg -background none :0 -seat seat0 -auth
/var/run/lightdm/root/:0 -nolisten tcp vt1 -novtswitch
root  1184  0.0  0.4 318100  6128 ?SLl  18:44   0:00 lightdm
--session-child 15 22


To answer your question.  Yes, dnf does check for dependencies and
ensures they are satisfied each time it is run.  And, as I've pointed
out, a working lightdm system doesn't need what you've installed.

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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Rick Leir]

Ed
I previously had graphics card problems so there is quite a history of 
uninstall / reinstall this and that. But each time you run dnf, it should be 
checking dependencies, am I not right? 

Is there a way to check whether I installed something with the -f force option? 

And perhaps a way to clear out any -f flags or settings, just to make sure that 
is not a cause?
Cheers
Rick


On May 30, 2017 5:51:11 AM EDT, Ed Greshko  wrote:
>On 05/30/17 17:28, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 05/30/17 17:15, Rick Leir wrote:
>>> It seems that Fedora 26 allowed me to have KDM and LightDM installed
>>> without gdm, gnome-shell, and mutter.
>>> I had a crash while attempting to login using LightDM: 
>>
>> Of course F26 is still in Alpha.  So, if you managed to get LightDM
>> installed without its dependencies you should report this on the
>> fedora-test list.
>>
>Sorry to reply to myself  But I misread the original post.   And, I
>am currently trying to reproduce
>
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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/30/17 17:28, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 05/30/17 17:15, Rick Leir wrote:
>> It seems that Fedora 26 allowed me to have KDM and LightDM installed
>> without gdm, gnome-shell, and mutter.
>> I had a crash while attempting to login using LightDM: 
>
> Of course F26 is still in Alpha.  So, if you managed to get LightDM
> installed without its dependencies you should report this on the
> fedora-test list.
>
Sorry to reply to myself  But I misread the original post.   And, I
am currently trying to reproduce

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Re: Install on Zotac Zbox CI327?

[wwp]

Hello Branko,


On Sun, 28 May 2017 21:20:13 +0200 Branko Grubic  wrote:

> On Sun, 2017-05-28 at 15:12 +0200, wwp wrote:
> > Hello there,
> > 
> > (after a looong time not using Fedora, just back to it!)
> > 
> > I've tried installing Fedora on a Zotac Zbox CI327 (Intel Celeron
> > N3450 inside) but this happens to fail. I've tried F25 but it has
> > not the right kernel to make it (I've read about 4.10 minimum), then
> > tried F26-Alpha-1.7 Live and Rawhide-20170518 Live but none could
> > reach the graphical login. They both boot, some steps take a lot of
> > time and I end up in a state I don't understand but which is not
> > friendly ;-).
> > 
> > Here's a link to a rdsosreport.txt file generated using Rawhide, I
> > must
> > admit that I don't know what to do now..
> > 
> >  https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/iRx8d~7Luk2TC3bsaDuuT15M1UNdIG
> > YhyRLivL9gydE=
> > 
> > BTW, I could install and run a Ubuntu 17.10 daily
> > (artful-desktop-amd64-20170519.iso) - wow it starts up pretty quickly
> > -
> > and that gave me hope!
> > 
> > Any hint or experience w/ such hardware?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >   
> Hi, 
> 
> I have no experience with that specific hardware, but maybe you can try
> stable re-spins[1] (live/installable images with current updates).
> Maybe it's a good balance between F25 final and F26/F27 (pre-
> release/dev), and it should have 4.10.x kernel.
> 
> [1] http://dl.fedoraproject.org/pub/alt/live-respins/

Interesting. I didn't get better results, though. Will keep digging,
thanks!


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Re: dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Ed Greshko]

On 05/30/17 17:15, Rick Leir wrote:
> It seems that Fedora 26 allowed me to have KDM and LightDM installed
> without gdm, gnome-shell, and mutter.
> I had a crash while attempting to login using LightDM: 


Of course F26 is still in Alpha.  So, if you managed to get LightDM
installed without its dependencies you should report this on the
fedora-test list.

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dependencies for kdm and gdm

[Rick Leir]

Hi all

It seems that Fedora 26 allowed me to have KDM and LightDM installed 
without gdm, gnome-shell, and mutter.

I had a crash while attempting to login using LightDM:

# journalctl -e
   #2 
0x7feb273ed783 gtk_css_static_style_compute_value (libgtk-3.so.0)
   #3 
0x7feb273d900c _gtk_css_lookup_resolve (libgtk-3.so.0)
   #4 
0x7feb273ed6bc gtk_css_static_style_new_compute (libgtk-3.so.0)
   #5 
0x7feb273ed715 gtk_css_static_style_get_default (libgtk-3.so.0)
   #6 
0x7feb273d99a2 gtk_css_node_init (libgtk-3.so.0)
   #7 
0x7feb25bde390 g_type_create_instance (libgobject-2.0.so.0)
   #8 
0x7feb25bbf4b8 g_object_new_internal (libgobject-2.0.so.0)


Many neurons were lost trying to track the cause down, but then the fix was:

# yum install gdm

Last metadata expiration check: 0:51:01 ago on Tue May 30 03:01:28 2017 CDT.

Dependencies resolved.



 PackageArch
 VersionRepository  
   Size



Installing dependencies:

 gdmx86_64  
 1:3.24.2-1.fc26
updates-testing   501 k

 gnome-shellx86_64  
 3.24.2-1.fc26  
updates-testing   1.9 M

 mutter x86_64  
 3.24.2-1.fc26  
updates-testing   2.2 M


How do you troubleshoot dependencies? Or is there some other mis-configuration 
which could have caused the problem?
cheers -- Rick

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