Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/26/18 12:24, stan wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:52:31 + (UTC)
> Amadeus WM  wrote:
>
>> That's what I've been looking for, seems to be working. Thank you
>> very much! 
> You're welcome.
>
>> I'm glad I wasn't using IMAP.
> No kidding.

Not sure why you say that.  I don't use claws-mail as my email client.  But the 
IMAP
clients that I do use are set to move email "deleted" from my inbox to Trash.  
So, if
I make a mistake I can simply go into the Trash and pull it out.  I've never 
lost
emails due to "user" error.

Are you saying that claws-mail is deficient in not having that sort of setting?


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Re: cups sucks!!!

[Gordon Messmer]

On 02/25/2018 10:42 AM, François Patte wrote:

I opened firefox on one computer and miracle: the printer attached to
the other computer is discovered and cups admin interface asks me if I
want to add this printer. Nice: the job is easy!!*But*  this does not
work at all!!



If I recall correctly, discovery is a matter of multicast DNS 
announcement.  Since the source announces the printer, firewall rules 
don't need to be adjusted to allow that.  However, you do need to adjust 
firewall rules to allow incoming IPP connections. Have you done that?

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Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

[stan]

On Mon, 26 Feb 2018 00:52:31 + (UTC)
Amadeus WM  wrote:

> That's what I've been looking for, seems to be working. Thank you
> very much! 

You're welcome.

> I'm glad I wasn't using IMAP.

No kidding.
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Re: gnome-screensaver

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/25/2018 06:47 PM, Amadeus WM wrote:

All of the above. There is even no option to lock the screen in the upper
right corner menu. No, I'm not running gnome as root.


Probably related to how you're starting it then.  There are several 
supplemental processes (e.g. gnome-setting-daemon) that need to be 
running as well.



I did try though

gnome-screensaver

then

gnome-screensaver-command --lock

and it worked.


Ok, good.  Maybe you can make a shortcut for it, although that might not 
work for the same reason.


If you're going to be running the desktop anyway, why don't you start in 
graphical mode?

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Re: gnome-screensaver

[Amadeus WM]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 17:05:37 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote:

> On 02/25/2018 04:50 PM, Amadeus WM wrote:
>> I've been happily using the mate desktop until yesterday when, after an
>> upgrade to F27, I decided to give gnome3 another chance. Knock on wood,
>> all seems well, except that the screen does not lock.
> 
> It doesn't automatically lock after being idle, it doesn't lock when you
> press Super-L, it doesn't lock when you press the lock button, something
> else, or all of the above?  Are you running Gnome as root?

All of the above. There is even no option to lock the screen in the upper 
right corner menu. No, I'm not running gnome as root. 

I did try though

gnome-screensaver 

then 

gnome-screensaver-command --lock 

and it worked. 
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Re: gnome-screensaver

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/25/2018 04:50 PM, Amadeus WM wrote:

I've been happily using the mate desktop until yesterday when, after an
upgrade to F27, I decided to give gnome3 another chance. Knock on wood,
all seems well, except that the screen does not lock.


It doesn't automatically lock after being idle, it doesn't lock when you 
press Super-L, it doesn't lock when you press the lock button, something 
else, or all of the above?  Are you running Gnome as root?



I always boot to level 3, so I start X at the command line with startx. I
also know that I have to start gnome-screensaver when X starts, and I
tried to do so from gnome-tweak-tool -> startup applications, but I don't
see it listed.

What's the proper way to start gnome-screensaver whith startx?


Gnome-shell has a built-in screen locker, gnome-screensaver isn't used 
any more.

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Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

[Amadeus WM]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 16:31:32 -0700, stan wrote:

> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 22:49:12 + (UTC)
> Amadeus WM  wrote:
> 
>> I accidentally deleted my inbox messages. I'm accessing my email via
>> pop3 and they are still on the server, but when click "Get Mail" in
>> claws- mail, nothing happens. Probably claws-mail knows I once had them
>> and deleted them, so it's not bringing them again.
>> 
>> Is there any way to trick claws-mail into re-downloading my inbox
>> messages?
> 
> I haven't done this, but it should work.  Exit claws mail.  In your home
> directory there is a directory called .claws-mail.  In that directory
> there is another directory called uidl.  Go into that directory and do
> an ls.  Look for the file of the email account that you are interested
> in resetting.  Edit its file, and remove the last X entries, enough to
> capture all the messages that you accidentally deleted.  Save it, and
> now restart claws mail.  If you click get mail, it should download the
> messages you deleted (actually, all the X messages whose markers you
> removed from the file you edited).
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That's what I've been looking for, seems to be working. Thank you very 
much! 

I'm glad I wasn't using IMAP.

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gnome-screensaver

[Amadeus WM]

I've been happily using the mate desktop until yesterday when, after an 
upgrade to F27, I decided to give gnome3 another chance. Knock on wood, 
all seems well, except that the screen does not lock. 

I always boot to level 3, so I start X at the command line with startx. I 
also know that I have to start gnome-screensaver when X starts, and I 
tried to do so from gnome-tweak-tool -> startup applications, but I don't 
see it listed. 

What's the proper way to start gnome-screensaver whith startx?

Thanks!

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Re: grub2-mkconfig

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/26/18 07:48, Celso Viana wrote:
> Is there no more "grub2-mkconfig" in Fedora 27?


dnf is your friend

egreshko@meimei system]$ dnf whatprovides *bin/grub2-mkconfig
Last metadata expiration check: 0:56:28 ago on Mon 26 Feb 2018 06:54:20 AM CST.
grub2-tools-1:2.02-22.fc27.x86_64 : Support tools for GRUB.
Repo    : @System
Matched from:
Other   : *bin/grub2-mkconfig

grub2-tools-1:2.02-22.fc27.x86_64 : Support tools for GRUB.
Repo    : updates
Matched from:
Other   : *bin/grub2-mkconfig

grub2-tools-1:2.02-18.fc27.x86_64 : Support tools for GRUB.
Repo    : fedora
Matched from:
Other   : *bin/grub2-mkconfig



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grub2-mkconfig

[Celso Viana]

Hi all,

Is there no more "grub2-mkconfig" in Fedora 27?

Thanks

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Re: Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

[John Pilkington]

On 25/02/18 22:44, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/26/18 06:17, John Pilkington wrote:

I have always found the yumex gui a helpful source of package info too - but at
present on f26 yumex-dnf tells me that 'dnf is locked  by another process.
Yum-extender will exit.'

I suspect that process is 'Discover', but Apper, dnf-dragora and dragora-updater
are lurking somewhere too.  I don't necessarily want to disable them completely 
but
I would prefer them to do their routine updates and then go to sleep.



FYI,  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/f27/release-notes/desktop/Desktop.html

Yes Ed, and thanks.  I reported on the KDE list in late Nov that 
dnf-dragora didn't allow repo selection, which is one of the main 
reasons for using a gui.  Other tools did, and the BZ list for dragora 
looked overloaded and inactive.  I gave up.


John
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Re: OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

[stan]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 22:49:12 + (UTC)
Amadeus WM  wrote:

> I accidentally deleted my inbox messages. I'm accessing my email via
> pop3 and they are still on the server, but when click "Get Mail" in
> claws- mail, nothing happens. Probably claws-mail knows I once had
> them and deleted them, so it's not bringing them again. 
> 
> Is there any way to trick claws-mail into re-downloading my inbox 
> messages? 

I haven't done this, but it should work.  Exit claws mail.  In your home
directory there is a directory called .claws-mail.  In that directory
there is another directory called uidl.  Go into that directory and do
an ls.  Look for the file of the email account that you are interested
in resetting.  Edit its file, and remove the last X entries, enough to
capture all the messages that you accidentally deleted.  Save it, and
now restart claws mail.  If you click get mail, it should download the
messages you deleted (actually, all the X messages whose markers you
removed from the file you edited).
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OT: force re-download in clasw-mail

[Amadeus WM]

I accidentally deleted my inbox messages. I'm accessing my email via pop3 
and they are still on the server, but when click "Get Mail" in claws-
mail, nothing happens. Probably claws-mail knows I once had them and 
deleted them, so it's not bringing them again. 

Is there any way to trick claws-mail into re-downloading my inbox 
messages? 

Thanks!

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Re: Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/26/18 06:17, John Pilkington wrote:
> I have always found the yumex gui a helpful source of package info too - but 
> at
> present on f26 yumex-dnf tells me that 'dnf is locked  by another process.
> Yum-extender will exit.'
>
> I suspect that process is 'Discover', but Apper, dnf-dragora and 
> dragora-updater
> are lurking somewhere too.  I don't necessarily want to disable them 
> completely but
> I would prefer them to do their routine updates and then go to sleep. 


FYI,  https://docs.fedoraproject.org/f27/release-notes/desktop/Desktop.html

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Re: Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

[John Pilkington]

On 25/02/18 21:25, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 26/2/18 7:55 am, John Pilkington wrote:

On 25/02/18 20:37, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

 Has anybody seen these messages before and know what is causing 
them, and hence why yumex is getting them? These are potentially new 
since the last system update.



(, DBusException('Rejected 
send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" 
(uid=1000 pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), at 0x7fea6ad483b0>)


(yumex:3908): IBUS-WARNING **: Unable to connect to ibus: Could not 
connect: Connection refused
(, DBusException('Rejected 
send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" 
(uid=1000 pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), at 0x7fea6ad4ad88>)

07:31:35 : INFO - Can't detect the network connection state
(, DBusException('Rejected 
send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" 
(uid=1000 pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), at 0x7fea6ad4cfc8>)



regards,

Steve


I use yumex - on my el7 (SL7) box; but I thought you were on f27, 
where yumex itself is surely not recommended.  My f26 box has a 
bewildering set of package managers that seem to conflict in their 
demands for access, but aren't dnf-dragora or yumex-dnf more appropriate?


I am on F27. I have dnfdragora installed but I don't like its gui 
interface, yumex as a gui interface is ten times better than dnfdragora. 
Yumex-dnf doesn't exist as a command on my system and a dnf whatprovides 
yumex-dnf seems to be indicating it is provided by dnfdragora, but I 
can't find it in the filelist in the dnfdragora packages.


In my view the dnf command line interface is hopeless at being able to 
find what packages are provided by the various repositories, what they 
are and what files they contain, compared to yumex which makes it 
simple, so until a gui interface to the package system that is of the 
same quality as yumex, that talks directly to dnf rather than through a 
translation interface, is produced I've continued to use yumex.


The messages above I have never noticed before, which doesn't 
necessarily mean they weren't produced, its just that now the warning 
text is being displayed in yellow it now stands out and is hence more 
noticeable.



regards,

Steve

I have always found the yumex gui a helpful source of package info too - 
but at present on f26 yumex-dnf tells me that 'dnf is locked  by another 
process. Yum-extender will exit.'


I suspect that process is 'Discover', but Apper, dnf-dragora and 
dragora-updater are lurking somewhere too.  I don't necessarily want to 
disable them completely but I would prefer them to do their routine 
updates and then go to sleep.


John





I always see the initial 'can't detect network connection state' on 
SL7, but it works.  Atop shows high cpu loads for metadata operations 
after package download.


John P

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Re: cups sucks!!!

[François Patte]

Le 25/02/2018 à 19:58, Joe Zeff a écrit :
> On 02/25/2018 10:42 AM, François Patte wrote:
>> Does somebody know a solution?
> 
> Have you tried going into cups on the computer the printer's attached to
> and sharing it?

Of course! If not it cannot be seen on the network!

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Re: cups sucks!!!

[François Patte]

Le 25/02/2018 à 20:00, Dirk Gottschalk a écrit :
> Hello.
> 
> Did you open up the ipp port in your firewall configuration?

First thing I have done!

> 
> Regards,
> Dirk
> 
> 
> Am Sonntag, den 25.02.2018, 19:42 +0100 schrieb François Patte:
>> Bonjour.
>>
>> I try to configure a printer on my local network but all attemps
>> fail.
>>
>> I have a printer attached to one computer on an usb port and I want
>> to
>> use it with other computers on my local network.
>>
>> I opened firefox on one computer and miracle: the printer attached to
>> the other computer is discovered and cups admin interface asks me if
>> I
>> want to add this printer. Nice: the job is easy!! *But* this does not
>> work at all!!
>>
>> Sending a test page returns that the printer is not responding.
>>
>> I tried to cofigure the printer using the "Add printer" way and chose
>> ipp. According to the given syntax, I wrote: ipp://name-of-server/ipp
>> but this does not work: sending a test page returns that the printer
>> is
>> misconfigured or no longer exists...
>>
>> I replaced the name of the server by its IP address... same result.
>>
>> I tried: ipp://name-of-server:631/printers/name-of-printer-on-server. 
>> It
>> does not work, the message is now: Filter failed.
>>
>> What fiter? I don't know as cups logs no longer exist since
>> systemd...
>>
>> Does somebody know a solution?
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
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Re: Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

[Stephen Morris]

On 26/2/18 7:55 am, John Pilkington wrote:

On 25/02/18 20:37, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

 Has anybody seen these messages before and know what is causing 
them, and hence why yumex is getting them? These are potentially new 
since the last system update.



(, DBusException('Rejected 
send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" 
(uid=1000 pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), at 0x7fea6ad483b0>)


(yumex:3908): IBUS-WARNING **: Unable to connect to ibus: Could not 
connect: Connection refused
(, DBusException('Rejected 
send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" 
(uid=1000 pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), at 0x7fea6ad4ad88>)

07:31:35 : INFO - Can't detect the network connection state
(, DBusException('Rejected 
send message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" 
(uid=1000 pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), at 0x7fea6ad4cfc8>)



regards,

Steve


I use yumex - on my el7 (SL7) box; but I thought you were on f27, 
where yumex itself is surely not recommended.  My f26 box has a 
bewildering set of package managers that seem to conflict in their 
demands for access, but aren't dnf-dragora or yumex-dnf more appropriate?


I am on F27. I have dnfdragora installed but I don't like its gui 
interface, yumex as a gui interface is ten times better than dnfdragora. 
Yumex-dnf doesn't exist as a command on my system and a dnf whatprovides 
yumex-dnf seems to be indicating it is provided by dnfdragora, but I 
can't find it in the filelist in the dnfdragora packages.


In my view the dnf command line interface is hopeless at being able to 
find what packages are provided by the various repositories, what they 
are and what files they contain, compared to yumex which makes it 
simple, so until a gui interface to the package system that is of the 
same quality as yumex, that talks directly to dnf rather than through a 
translation interface, is produced I've continued to use yumex.


The messages above I have never noticed before, which doesn't 
necessarily mean they weren't produced, its just that now the warning 
text is being displayed in yellow it now stands out and is hence more 
noticeable.



regards,

Steve




I always see the initial 'can't detect network connection state' on 
SL7, but it works.  Atop shows high cpu loads for metadata operations 
after package download.


John P
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Re: Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

[John Pilkington]

On 25/02/18 20:37, Stephen Morris wrote:

Hi,

     Has anybody seen these messages before and know what is causing 
them, and hence why yumex is getting them? These are potentially new 
since the last system update.



(, DBusException('Rejected send 
message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" (uid=1000 
pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), 0x7fea6ad483b0>)


(yumex:3908): IBUS-WARNING **: Unable to connect to ibus: Could not 
connect: Connection refused
(, DBusException('Rejected send 
message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" (uid=1000 
pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), 0x7fea6ad4ad88>)

07:31:35 : INFO - Can't detect the network connection state
(, DBusException('Rejected send 
message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" (uid=1000 
pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), 0x7fea6ad4cfc8>)



regards,

Steve


I use yumex - on my el7 (SL7) box; but I thought you were on f27, where 
yumex itself is surely not recommended.  My f26 box has a bewildering 
set of package managers that seem to conflict in their demands for 
access, but aren't dnf-dragora or yumex-dnf more appropriate?


I always see the initial 'can't detect network connection state' on SL7, 
but it works.  Atop shows high cpu loads for metadata operations after 
package download.


John P
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Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

[Stephen Morris]

On 26/2/18 1:12 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sun, 2018-02-25 at 13:00 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 25/2/18 12:15 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 15:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:

Are all these taint messages, and all the reasons for a taint message
being produced saying that if we have to build our own drivers into the
kernel to be able to use our hardware, and hence put us into the
situation of potentially not getting support for kernel defects if any
are encountered, that we shouldn't be using linux?

If you encounter a kernel defect, how can it be debugged if part of the
kernel is not available? That's what tainting amounts to. IIRC you've
said that you compile the Nvidia modules. What you are actually doing
is compiling code (the dkms system) that enables Nvidia's binary blobs
to be linked as modules into the Linux kernel. You don't (unless you
work for Nvidia) have the source code of those blobs.

I can understand objects being linked together to build an executable
module, but what I don't understand, based on what you are saying, is
where the source code in the nvidia directory in /usr/src that dkms is
compiling has come from if it hasn't come from nvidia?

No-one is saying it doesn't come from Nvidia. What I'm saying is that
that code is *not* the entire Nvidia driver, it's simply linking code
that enables the use of the binary driver they supply.

IOW you don't have the *complete* source of the driver. That's why it's
tainted.


Thanks Patrick, I guess the link process after the compile is pulling in 
modules from the libraries packages.



regards,

Steve




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Yumex Getting Bus Connection/Network Issues

[Stephen Morris]

Hi,

    Has anybody seen these messages before and know what is causing 
them, and hence why yumex is getting them? These are potentially new 
since the last system update.



(, DBusException('Rejected send 
message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" (uid=1000 
pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), 0x7fea6ad483b0>)


(yumex:3908): IBUS-WARNING **: Unable to connect to ibus: Could not 
connect: Connection refused
(, DBusException('Rejected send 
message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" (uid=1000 
pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), 0x7fea6ad4ad88>)

07:31:35 : INFO - Can't detect the network connection state
(, DBusException('Rejected send 
message, 2 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.107" (uid=1000 
pid=3908 comm="/usr/bin/python -tt /usr/bin/yumex " 
label="unconfined_u:unconfined_r:unconfined_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023") 
interface="(unset)" member="GetDevices" error name="(unset)" 
requested_reply="0" destination=":1.9" (uid=0 pid=1456 
comm="/usr/sbin/NetworkManager --no-daemon " 
label="system_u:system_r:NetworkManager_t:s0")',), 0x7fea6ad4cfc8>)



regards,

Steve
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Re: Uefi/csm -

[George N. White III]

On 25 February 2018 at 13:15, Bob Goodwin  wrote:

> I ordered another Asrock motherboard to replace the one I haven;t been
> able to install Fedora 27 on. The user manual says it can be setup to boot
> uefi or legacy bios by enabling csm. I do not need to dual boot with
> Windows, only Fedora 27 so it appears to me that the legacy option is best
> in my case.
>
Is that right or am I missing something?
>
> Bob
>
>
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/11/intel-to-kill-
off-the-last-vestiges-of-the-ancient-pc-bios-by-2020/

Fedora is supposed to help us work out bugs before they land in Enterprise
distros.  The more Fedora
users give UEFI a try, the better it will work for linux in 2020.

It may be better to experiment with UEFI while you can still get hardware
with BIOS than wait for 2020 to start
figuring out EUFI.

Dell has a white paper  .

This document is aimed more at data centers, but it is interesting to read
the section on memory
limits for storage devices and Dell's use of UEFI for NVMe devices.


https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/
05967/memory-and-storage/enthusiast-ssds.html

https://www.kingston.com/us/ssd/resources/dcp1000-boot-configurations-and-
recommendations


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Re: cups sucks!!!

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/25/2018 10:42 AM, François Patte wrote:

I tried: ipp://name-of-server:631/printers/name-of-printer-on-server. It
does not work, the message is now: Filter failed.

What fiter? I don't know as cups logs no longer exist since systemd...


The cups logs go to the journal like everything else.  Try "journalctl 
-b -u cups".

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Re: Uefi/csm -

[Samuel Sieb]

On 02/25/2018 09:15 AM, Bob Goodwin wrote:
I ordered another Asrock motherboard to replace the one I haven;t been 
able to install Fedora 27 on. The user manual says it can be setup to 
boot uefi or legacy bios by enabling csm. I do not need to dual boot 
with Windows, only Fedora 27 so it appears to me that the legacy option 
is best in my case.


Is that rightor am I missing something?


You are missing something.  Regardless of whether you want to dual boot 
with Windows or not, EFI is a much better boot system.  Also, the GPT 
partition format is a much better system.  And despite the common 
misinformation, secure boot is not required to be on to use EFI boot. 
However, unless you are compiling kernel modules, secure boot being on 
will not be noticeable.

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Re: Uefi/csm -

[Dirk Gottschalk]

Hello.

SecureBoot should not be a problem, because the Bootloader on Fedora is
signed.

I have Secureboot enabled on my machine, which is a HP (Compaq)
Notebook and everything runs fine.

Regards,
Dirk


Am Sonntag, den 25.02.2018, 11:22 -0700 schrieb stan:
> On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 12:15:05 -0500
> Bob Goodwin  wrote:
> 
> > I ordered another Asrock motherboard to replace the one I haven;t
> > been able to install Fedora 27 on. The user manual says it can be
> > setup to boot uefi or legacy bios by enabling csm. I do not need to
> > dual boot with Windows, only Fedora 27 so it appears to me that the
> > legacy option is best in my case.
> > 
> > Is that rightor am I missing something?
> 
> My understanding is that secure boot is to protect from unauthorized
> access to the machine, and prevent unauthorized software from running
> on the machine.  Important for things like laptops that are liable to
> be stolen, but less necessary for home desktop computers.
> 
> That is, I agree with you.  But I look forward to seeing the
> reasoning
> of people who disagree.
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Re: cups sucks!!!

[Dirk Gottschalk]

Hello.

Did you open up the ipp port in your firewall configuration?

Regards,
Dirk


Am Sonntag, den 25.02.2018, 19:42 +0100 schrieb François Patte:
> Bonjour.
> 
> I try to configure a printer on my local network but all attemps
> fail.
> 
> I have a printer attached to one computer on an usb port and I want
> to
> use it with other computers on my local network.
> 
> I opened firefox on one computer and miracle: the printer attached to
> the other computer is discovered and cups admin interface asks me if
> I
> want to add this printer. Nice: the job is easy!! *But* this does not
> work at all!!
> 
> Sending a test page returns that the printer is not responding.
> 
> I tried to cofigure the printer using the "Add printer" way and chose
> ipp. According to the given syntax, I wrote: ipp://name-of-server/ipp
> but this does not work: sending a test page returns that the printer
> is
> misconfigured or no longer exists...
> 
> I replaced the name of the server by its IP address... same result.
> 
> I tried: ipp://name-of-server:631/printers/name-of-printer-on-server. 
> It
> does not work, the message is now: Filter failed.
> 
> What fiter? I don't know as cups logs no longer exist since
> systemd...
> 
> Does somebody know a solution?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
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Re: cups sucks!!!

[Joe Zeff]

On 02/25/2018 10:42 AM, François Patte wrote:

Does somebody know a solution?


Have you tried going into cups on the computer the printer's attached to 
and sharing it?

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cups sucks!!!

[François Patte]

Bonjour.

I try to configure a printer on my local network but all attemps fail.

I have a printer attached to one computer on an usb port and I want to
use it with other computers on my local network.

I opened firefox on one computer and miracle: the printer attached to
the other computer is discovered and cups admin interface asks me if I
want to add this printer. Nice: the job is easy!! *But* this does not
work at all!!

Sending a test page returns that the printer is not responding.

I tried to cofigure the printer using the "Add printer" way and chose
ipp. According to the given syntax, I wrote: ipp://name-of-server/ipp
but this does not work: sending a test page returns that the printer is
misconfigured or no longer exists...

I replaced the name of the server by its IP address... same result.

I tried: ipp://name-of-server:631/printers/name-of-printer-on-server. It
does not work, the message is now: Filter failed.

What fiter? I don't know as cups logs no longer exist since systemd...

Does somebody know a solution?

Thank you.


-- 
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UFR de mathématiques et informatique
Laboratoire CNRS MAP5, UMR 8145
Université Paris Descartes
45, rue des Saints Pères
F-75270 Paris Cedex 06
Tél. +33 (0)6 7892 5822
http://www.math-info.univ-paris5.fr/~patte



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Re: Uefi/csm -

[stan]

On Sun, 25 Feb 2018 12:15:05 -0500
Bob Goodwin  wrote:

> I ordered another Asrock motherboard to replace the one I haven;t
> been able to install Fedora 27 on. The user manual says it can be
> setup to boot uefi or legacy bios by enabling csm. I do not need to
> dual boot with Windows, only Fedora 27 so it appears to me that the
> legacy option is best in my case.
> 
> Is that rightor am I missing something?

My understanding is that secure boot is to protect from unauthorized
access to the machine, and prevent unauthorized software from running
on the machine.  Important for things like laptops that are liable to
be stolen, but less necessary for home desktop computers.

That is, I agree with you.  But I look forward to seeing the reasoning
of people who disagree.
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Re: R as on Ubuntu and Fedora

[Heinz Diehl]

On 21.02.2018, Max Pyziur wrote: 

> I've noticed that Ubuntu has considerably greater support for R than Fedora
> (more R deb packages than R rpm packages).

See https://cran.r-project.org/web/packages/available_packages_by_name.html
There's a plethora of different packages. You can either install them
with the "install.packages()" function or directly from R-studio,
which is what I'm using.

https://www.rstudio.com/products/rstudio/download/#download
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Uefi/csm -

[Bob Goodwin]

I ordered another Asrock motherboard to replace the one I haven;t been 
able to install Fedora 27 on. The user manual says it can be setup to 
boot uefi or legacy bios by enabling csm. I do not need to dual boot 
with Windows, only Fedora 27 so it appears to me that the legacy option 
is best in my case.


Is that rightor am I missing something?

Bob

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Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

[Tom H]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 6:12 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 23:40 +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote:
>> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:14:49 -0500
>> Tom H  wrote:
>>>
>>> Is "rename" provided by util-linux or is it a perl-provided script?
>>>
>>> The util-linux syntax is
>>>
>>> rename search_for replace_with 
>>>
>>> while the perl-script syntax is
>>>
>>> rename 's/search_for/replace_with/' 
>>
>> thanks for the latter sed syntax - good to know on Debian, IINM ...
>
> I wonder if that version is actually prename ('dnf install prename')
> under a different name, which would be nicely ironic ...

prename! Yes, thanks.

It's also rejigged my memory that previous versions of Debian had
"prename". It was provided by "perl" itself and it was the same as
Fedora's "prename". There was an alternatives-created "rename" symlink
to it.

Looking at the control and spec files,

Fedora's rename comes from

http://search.cpan.org/~pederst/rename-1.9/bin/rename.PL

Debian's rename comes from

http://search.cpan.org/~rmbarker/File-Rename-0.20/lib/File/Rename.pm
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Re: basic issue/question -- renaming in mass a bunch of files

[Tom H]

On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 5:40 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer  wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 13:14:49 -0500
> Tom H  wrote:
>> On Sat, Feb 24, 2018 at 9:03 AM, bruce  wrote:
>>>
>>> Have a bunch of files with the basic naming of:
>>> ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_001__parse.dat
>>> ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa_1__WGS_7500_002__parse.dat
>>> etc..
>>>
>>> I'd like to simply remove the 1st part ztcloud_nfs_parsezt from the
>>> files, renaming the files to the rest of the filename..
>>>
>>> Thought it should be simple using rename
>>>
>>> rename 's/ztcloud_nfs_parseztaa/aa/' zt*.dat
>>>
>>> However, this didn't work... so.. hmm..
>>
>> Is "rename" provided by util-linux or is it a perl-provided script?
>>
>> The util-linux syntax is
>>
>> rename search_for replace_with 
>>
>> while the perl-script syntax is
>>
>> rename 's/search_for/replace_with/' 
>
> thanks for the latter sed syntax - good to know on Debian, IINM ...

You're welcome.

The perl syntax isn't Debian-specific; I've used it on Fedora or RHEL
but I can't remember whether it'd been installed with yum (and what
the package might've been) or installed independently of the packaging
system.

On Debian, util-linux is installed by default. It brings in
"rename.ul" and the alternatives system's used to create a "rename"
symlink to it. If you then install "rename", it brings in
"file-rename" and the alternatives system is used to switch the
"rename" symlink to it.

Different strokes for different distros...
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Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2018-02-25 at 13:00 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> On 25/2/18 12:15 am, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Sat, 2018-02-24 at 15:43 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote:
> > > Are all these taint messages, and all the reasons for a taint message
> > > being produced saying that if we have to build our own drivers into the
> > > kernel to be able to use our hardware, and hence put us into the
> > > situation of potentially not getting support for kernel defects if any
> > > are encountered, that we shouldn't be using linux?
> > 
> > If you encounter a kernel defect, how can it be debugged if part of the
> > kernel is not available? That's what tainting amounts to. IIRC you've
> > said that you compile the Nvidia modules. What you are actually doing
> > is compiling code (the dkms system) that enables Nvidia's binary blobs
> > to be linked as modules into the Linux kernel. You don't (unless you
> > work for Nvidia) have the source code of those blobs.
> 
> I can understand objects being linked together to build an executable 
> module, but what I don't understand, based on what you are saying, is 
> where the source code in the nvidia directory in /usr/src that dkms is 
> compiling has come from if it hasn't come from nvidia?

No-one is saying it doesn't come from Nvidia. What I'm saying is that
that code is *not* the entire Nvidia driver, it's simply linking code
that enables the use of the binary driver they supply.

IOW you don't have the *complete* source of the driver. That's why it's
tainted.

poc
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Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

[Stephen Morris]

On 25/2/18 1:21 pm, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/25/18 09:46, Stephen Morris wrote:

[   10.395281] razermouse: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
[   10.395344] razermouse: module verification failed: signature and/or required
key missing - tainting kernel
[   10.874905] nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
[   10.874907] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
[  123.187478] CPU: 6 PID: 825 Comm: systemd-logind Tainted: P   OE
4.15.4-300.fc27.x86_64 #1
[  123.194773] CPU: 3 PID: 655 Comm: nvidia-modeset Tainted: P    W  OE
4.15.4-300.fc27.x86_64 #1

Look that the "P", "W", "O", and "E" in the messages above and reference them to
those letters in the list in
https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/v4.15/admin-guide/tainted-kernels.html

Note the "time" in the message.  These are just more information being supplied 
to
you.  They are informative.



Why are the two cpu messages now coming out for the first time, has the last 
update
introduced something that is now causing these messages to be produced or has 
there
been additional functionality added to the kernel to produce them.

Looking at the nvidia one, this one is probably understandable given that the
nvidia drivers do taint the kernel, but I'm not sure where that module is coming
from because when I use yumex to search for modeset I don't get any hits at all.

The systemd one is a bit disconcerting, from the perspective of any kernel 
modules
that systemd has I would have expected to be a native part of the kernel, hence
wouldn't be causing any tainted, hence what is this logind binary module that is
being inserted into the kernel to cause tainting?


The bottom line is, you're running a Wifi module and another module that you've
complied yourself, your running the nVidia driver.  Your kernel *is* tainted.  
You
will/may get messages to that effect.  Why they come at times and why they 
don't at
others is immaterial.  I've said it before, and I'll say it again.  I'm not
interested in chasing thatand I won't

Unless you're system is failing.  Unless your wifi is broken.  Unless your 
graphics
are freezing.  Your system is running just fine.

So, I'm pretty much at an end when it comes to this thread.  There are *no* 
problems
to be solved.  So, your choice if you want to continue to worry about those 
messages
and if/when they appear or don't appear.

So, I'm done.


Thanks Ed, sorry to be so much trouble.


regards,

Steve





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Re: Nvidia Module Tainting Kernel

[Stephen Morris]

On 25/2/18 1:21 pm, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/25/18 09:57, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 24/2/18 11:12 pm, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 02/24/18 12:43, Stephen Morris wrote:

Thanks Ed. Is there any documentation anywhere on what each bit represents?

You mean other than the URL I've supplied at kernel.org and the comments within
tainted.c ?

I haven't seen tainted.c as yet so I'm not sure what it has commented, but the 
info
in the url indicates that bit 1 can have two reasons for being set, so my query 
is
more around if a bit that has multiple reasons is set, how does one determine 
which
of those reasons is causing it to be set.

The number 1 is a list number in the kernel.org URL I've supplied.

As I've repeatedly said, the "BIT" is the number in the list "MINUS" one.  So, 
BIT 0
is concerned with the GPL License status.  Yes there is an "OR" condition but 
the
situation is still the SAME.  There is a problem with the LICENSE of a module 
which
is deemed a "TAINT".  Not complicated.

As for tainted.c, I sent you the URL for that file/program that you need to 
compile
and run according to the directions in the file.  I'm surprised that with your 
being
so concerned about what taints your kernel you've not looked at the file, not
compiled, and I guess not run the program?

https://paste.fedoraproject.org/paste/a6HyoXLvYCMpjKeym-S~wg

is tainted.c.


Thanks Ed, I missed that url. I have now downloaded the code and 
compiled it. ./tainted 12801 which is what I am getting now since the 
last system update is telling me there is also a kernel warning involved.



regards,

Steve




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