Re: unwanted checks for updates.
> The problem is that now it looks to me like > apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without > also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools > useful for searching without them checking for updates? What desktop do you use? KDE has dnfdragora for package management. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/22/18 2:54 PM, home user via users wrote: (Samuel suggested) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer I did that, rebooted, and tried dnf upgrade --refresh The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the patches, as I don't think that is relevant to this thread. It will be much slower because dnf has to download all the metadata for all the repositories before it can do anything. If you have the timer enabled, then most of the time that metadata will already be up to date. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
On 12/22/18 10:50 AM, home user via users wrote: These confirm what Ed and Samuel say about apper and Software being dependent on PackageKit. The problem is that now it looks to me like apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools useful for searching without them checking for updates? I don't think you can. Several times this year, while doing weekly patches (dnf upgrade --refresh), a little window slid down from the top of the display (where date and time are shown) indicating a problem. When I looked at the details, it was a crash or abort of PackageKit. I clicked the button in the problem reporter to submit a bug on this. The problem had already been reported by many other people. I believe the main bug is #1480846 (see "https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1480846;, comment 68). Despite these problems, the patches did seem to complete successfully. So I'm not really clear on what you mean when you say that dnf does not depend on PackageKit. You have the dependency backward. PackageKit uses libdnf. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: unwanted checks for updates.
Now responding to the dnf part... (Samuel suggested) systemctl disable dnf-makecache.timer I did that, rebooted, and tried dnf upgrade --refresh The command was much slower starting and displaying what would be patched. But it looked like it worked. I did not continue with the patches, as I don't think that is relevant to this thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list?
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Re: How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list?
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How do I unsubscribe from the Fedora users mailing list?
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Re: unwanted checks for updates.
I'm finally back to this. Here, I'll respond to the apper part. (Ed said) > apper is packagekit based. ... This is the first time I've > seen you mention apper. (and Samuel said) > Right. ... anything that depends on PackageKit won't work. ... > dnf does not require PackageKit, but Apper and Gnome Software do. > By unmaking it, you allowed them to dbus activate them. You > might end up getting update requests again. I occasionally use apper to look for things. But I want to use dnf and nothing else for installs, patches, and updates. I (re-)masked packagekit.service, rebooted, and launched apper. Just for testing purposes, I searched for "calculator". I get a pop-up error saying "An internal system error has occurred - Apper". When I click the pop-up's "Details >>" button, I see the following message: "Unit packagekit.service is masked.". Trying to launch Software results in a pop-up with the following message: --- "Unable to get list of updates: failed to get updates for refresh: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freedesktop.PackageKit: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.systemdl.UnitMasked: Unitpackagekit.service is masked." --- These confirm what Ed and Samuel say about apper and Software being dependent on PackageKit. The problem is that now it looks to me like apper and Software cannot be used to find to find tools and apps without also checking for updates. Am I correct? How do I make these tools useful for searching without them checking for updates? Several times this year, while doing weekly patches (dnf upgrade --refresh), a little window slid down from the top of the display (where date and time are shown) indicating a problem. When I looked at the details, it was a crash or abort of PackageKit. I clicked the button in the problem reporter to submit a bug on this. The problem had already been reported by many other people. I believe the main bug is #1480846 (see "https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1480846;, comment 68). Despite these problems, the patches did seem to complete successfully. So I'm not really clear on what you mean when you say that dnf does not depend on PackageKit. On to trying the timer suggestions. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: downsized grub menu. [CLOSED]
Patrick O'Callaghan: > IIRC it used to be 72.72 (my first job was working on an early > typesetting system at Cambridge University Press :-) However > according to Wikipedia a point is now officially 1/72 of an > "international inch": > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography) I stayed with "approx" since it never was specific (different companies had differing point sizes), and I wouldn't be surprised if different companies (e.g. printing houses), still have their own ideas about the thing. ;-) And then you have the issue of different inches, too. And if you printed out the built-in test pages of different printers, I'm sure you'll find that 12 point Times on one printer is not identical to 12 point Times on another. It certainly was when I've done that in the past. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -rsvp Linux 4.16.11-100.fc26.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue May 22 20:02:12 UTC 2018 x86_64 Boilerplate: All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. There is no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages posted to the mailing list. - Mwuu haha ha h, soon the world will be mine! - Sir, you've got to take your finger off the intercom button. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: xorg problems
On 12/21/18 3:56 PM, ja wrote: On Fri, 2018-12-21 at 11:57 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: On Fri, 21 Dec 2018 11:39:09 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: I know when I put an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11, X refused to start and I was left with a blank screen. You can put fragments of an xorg.conf file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/, to just override a few defaults, but I have no idea what the fragment should look like to disable PageFlip. Maybe this is correct: https://support.displaylink.com/knowledgebase/articles/1181623-displaylink-ubuntu-driver-after-recent-x-upgrades This seems to work OK ja@naxos xorg.conf.d 4$ cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d//20-naxos.conf Section "Device" Identifier "Card0" Option "PageFlip""false" EndSection ja@naxos xorg.conf.d 5$ I'll give it a try along with the displaylink ideas. Thanks guys ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: downsized grub menu. [CLOSED]
On Sat, 2018-12-22 at 15:56 +1030, Tim via users wrote: > Don't believe me? Fire up LibreOffice, try out 12 and 24 point text, > and look at the on-screen ruler, or print it out. > > There's approx 72 of *these* points in an inch. IIRC it used to be 72.72 (my first job was working on an early typesetting system at Cambridge University Press :-) However according to Wikipedia a point is now officially 1/72 of an "international inch": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Point_(typography) poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
