Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ed Greshko
On 5/3/19 1:51 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Nobody will listen nor respond.

It would be really nice to not have to read about this any longer.  (He says, 
with full
knowledge of the irony.)

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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 5/3/19 6:51 AM, Tim via users wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Ed Greshko sent:

When is jury selection?

I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty.



:-)


My vote is:  Until it's officially announced AND released, it ain't a
release.  Even though we could all be expecting it on a prearranged
date, it could be deliberately delayed by circumstances.


That's what I call superflous bureaucracy beyond reason.


And ignoring issues about imminent releases:  Without redirecting
people to the correct list, they'll ask in the wrong place (which won't
actually do them much good).  And without reminding some people,
they'll keep on doing it.


Face it, posting about user issues with an already finalized release to 
@test is waste of time and resources. The "testers" already have dropped 
"their pencils" and are gone. Nobody will listen nor respond.


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Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/02/2019 11:15 PM, Tim via users wrote:

I wish browsers would acknowledge a user's reload instruction as: start
completely afresh because something didn't work right.


There was a time when Shift-Reload would force it to get a new copy of 
everything, but that doesn't seem to make a difference anymore.  And, to 
be honest, I've no idea if that made the browser do new DNS lookups as well.

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Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/2/19 8:23 PM, Todd Chester via users wrote:

On 5/2/19 5:40 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Remaking grub.cfg, I get

    # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
    Generating grub configuration file ...
    Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
    done

Uh.. I wanted legacy, not EFI.

What am I missing?


Are you doing this while booted in EFI or legacy mode?


Legacy.  It only boots in EFI mode.  I need both.


How are you booting in legacy mode if it doesn't work?
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Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/02/2019 11:15 PM, Tim via users wrote:

Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Joe Zeff sent:

Even after clearing my cache, I get that from Firefox, but Seamonkey
picks it up OK.

Did you fully quit and restart Firefox?  If not, it could be operating
from something still in memory.


I did, after I found that a different browser worked.  Not only did it 
fix that site, it fixed another one that had persisted in giving error 
messages after earlier restarts.

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Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Joe Zeff sent:
> Even after clearing my cache, I get that from Firefox, but Seamonkey 
> picks it up OK.

Did you fully quit and restart Firefox?  If not, it could be operating
from something still in memory.

When a browser gets stuck in the past, there's two usual culprits:

 * It's cached the files its downloaded, and won't fetch new versions
   (*often* you can simply reload the page, sometimes while holding a
   qualifier key down - like the SHIFT key).

 * It's remembered the IP address that it connected to before, and
   won't check to see if the IP has changed (this has always required a
   full program exit, to clear, with my browsers).

I don't know whether, for either case, it's obeying the information it
was told for how long it's permitted to cache the data (regardless of
how impractical it may be), or ignoring it and following the browser
programmer's ideas on what's best to do (regardless of how impractical
that may be, too).

I wish browsers would acknowledge a user's reload instruction as: start
completely afresh because something didn't work right.

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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Tom H sent:
> We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious
> threads on an almost twice-yearly basis.

There would be too much noise.

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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 2 May 2019, Ed Greshko sent:
> When is jury selection?
> 
> I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty.

>:-)

My vote is:  Until it's officially announced AND released, it ain't a
release.  Even though we could all be expecting it on a prearranged
date, it could be deliberately delayed by circumstances.
  
And ignoring issues about imminent releases:  Without redirecting
people to the correct list, they'll ask in the wrong place (which won't
actually do them much good).  And without reminding some people,
they'll keep on doing it.

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Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread Todd Chester via users



On 5/2/19 5:40 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Remaking grub.cfg, I get

    # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
    Generating grub configuration file ...
    Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
    done

Uh.. I wanted legacy, not EFI.

What am I missing?


Are you doing this while booted in EFI or legacy mode?


Legacy.  It only boots in EFI mode.  I need both.



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Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Robert Nichols

On 5/2/19 5:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified.


Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an
IBMer though.


That's the point. Their "explanation" in the messages
and code manual was laughable gibberish.

P.S. What it really meant was that the $@#! operator in
the comp center mounted the wrong tape which had unexpected
block sizes and blew up the program trying to read it
(at least that's what it always meant the 47,000 times
it happened to me :-).


The classic one is of course:

Wrong Error


I always liked the old Fortran error code which, according to the manual, meant, "An 
erroneous error number has been placed in the error table."

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[389-users] Re: docs for 1.4

2019-05-02 Thread William Brown


> On 2 May 2019, at 21:28, Angel Bosch Mora  wrote:
> 
>> If you have a specific question though, I’d be happy to help!
>> 
> 
> I'm glad you offered :)
> 
> these are the attributes I'm currently using:
> 
> cn:
> description:
> displayName::
> dn:
> employeeNumber:
> gecos:
> gidNumber:
> homeDirectory:
> loginShell:
> mail:
> manager:
> member:
> memberOf:
> objectClass:
> petraSshPublicKey:
> printer-make-and-model:
> printer-more-info:
> printer-uri:
> sambaAcctFlags:
> sambaNTPassword:
> sambaPasswordHistory:
> sambaPwdLastSet:
> sambaSID:
> shadowInactive:
> shadowLastChange:
> shadowMax:
> shadowWarning:
> sn:
> uid:
> uidNumber:
> 
> 
> I want to change ACIs from old behaviour to white list aproach.
> Should I include objectClass in the ACIs?

Generally I’d say you only need objectClass in aci’s where you have 
modification rights occuring to ensure that the bounds of the modification are 
constrained.

If you are only adding ACI for read, then you can just have targetAttr for the 
attributes required.

The best way to think of this is “what groups or roles need access to read what 
attributes”.

So I’d write out something like:

everyone read -> a1, a2, a3 ….
admins read -> ….

Then I’d translate these to the read-aci’s you require



> 
> Do I need to create a deny-all as last ACI so everything that is not allowed 
> gets denied?

No, 389 defaults to deny, so anything “not list” will be disallowed. 

> 
> In your blog you talk about a toolset to test ACIs, is that tool published 
> somewhere?

Sadly not - some parts of it have become part of lib389 in the healthcheck 
module to find targetAttr != rules, but the actual testing of “do these aci’s 
match expectations”, was part of a previous work place, and I no longer have 
access.

Again, you can translate the above to something:

You would basically say “for each object in the directory”.

if that object is in:
everyone -> expect read on a1, a2 ….
admins -> expect read on a3, a4 ….

Then I’d do the permission check (there is a 389 specific ldap extended op) 
that tells you what rights you have other entries. I’d assert the expect 
matches each check, and continue.


It was pretty overkill and kind of brute-force solution, but it is what lead to 
the discovery of the aci issues with targetAttr != - I’d say if you don’t use 
targetAttr != you probably are already in a really good position to audit and 
understand the interactions with your directory, so you may not need the tool 
at all. 


Hope this helps :) 


> 
> best regards,
> 
> abosch
> 
> 
> 
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Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Remaking grub.cfg, I get

    # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
    Generating grub configuration file ...
    Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
    done

Uh.. I wanted legacy, not EFI.

What am I missing?


Are you doing this while booted in EFI or legacy mode?
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Neal Becker
Neal Becker wrote:

> Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
> 
>> On 02/05/2019 08.30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>>> On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
 On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote:
> It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you
> could run
> ps or something.  My laptop doesn't have a disk activity light, so
> there's
> no way to tell if it's doing anything.

 I've been able to go to another virtual terminal by type Ctr-Alt-F2,
 but
 only when using the graphical interface during the upgrade.  After that
 I was able to login as root.
>>> 
>>> How did you have a graphical interface during the upgrade?  Were you
>>> using "dnf upgrade" instead of "dnf system-upgrade"?
>> 
>> I didn't do anything special.  The systems I tried this on both run X11
>> (XFCE, so no wayland), and I just got this graphical display (Fedora
>> logo in the middle of the screen and update messages at the top).  I
>> guess it's the plymouth package that takes care of these graphics.
>> 
>> I used dnf system-upgrade to do the upgrades.
>> 
> 
> Actually, fiddling around with Alt-F2 etc I did manage to get to a root
> login shell.

So I did successfully complete the upgrade.

1. You can get a root login shell, but only after some time.

2. It did complete, but I had to wait a long time from the starting 
transaction until I saw any activity about installing any files.  It really 
would be a lot more friendly if there was some way to see an indication that 
it wasn't just hung.

Thanks,
Neal
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread John M. Harris, Jr.
We could always have a policy of adding the Fedora version in the subject line. 
Something like "F30: Query here"

On May 2, 2019 9:40:27 AM MST, Tom H  wrote:
>On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:55 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
>>>  wrote:
>
>
 I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should
 go on the Test list. That is the official policy of this list.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, it's from time that this email [1] is sent that the "users"
>>> list is ok, not from the time that this email [2] is sent out.
>>>
>>> [1] "is go", April 26:
>>>
>https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GLN2FU2O5K6WVX4Y2ST3VOALV6ML35U2/
>>>
>>> [2] "released", April 30:
>>>
>https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AXZGT6H6XPS26W2MTBJNCZGQA5SK3NOZ/
>>
>> That's also a reasonable interpretation. I'll try to bear it in mind
>> next time
>
>It's not my interpretation. There was a thread similar to this one a
>few years ago where someone said with authority (it seemed to me!)
>that this was the policy.
>
>
>> (and believe me, there will inevitably be a next time ...)
>
>We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious
>threads on an almost twice-yearly basis.
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Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tim Evans

On 5/2/19 6:08 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:


TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified.


Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an
IBMer though.


That's the point. Their "explanation" in the messages
and code manual was laughable gibberish.

P.S. What it really meant was that the $@#! operator in
the comp center mounted the wrong tape which had unexpected
block sizes and blew up the program trying to read it
(at least that's what it always meant the 47,000 times
it happened to me :-).


The classic one is of course:



Not a typewriter


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Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:53 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100
> Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> 
> > > TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified.  
> > 
> > Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an
> > IBMer though.
> 
> That's the point. Their "explanation" in the messages
> and code manual was laughable gibberish.
> 
> P.S. What it really meant was that the $@#! operator in
> the comp center mounted the wrong tape which had unexpected
> block sizes and blew up the program trying to read it
> (at least that's what it always meant the 47,000 times
> it happened to me :-).

The classic one is of course:

Wrong Error

poc
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 08:47:29PM +0100, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious
> > threads on an almost twice-yearly basis.
> I used to read the Test list as well as this one but stopped a couple
> of years ago when I realised I wasn't getting much out of discussions
> of Rawhide issues and decided to stick to the stable releases, so
> unifying the lists would be a retrograde step in my view.

Maybe it would be better to make the distinction a different way. The test
list is used for communications of the Fedora QA team, and for people who
are actively, well, _testing_ the software. This list is the _users_ list, and
is for people who are _using_ the software.

Rather than saying "wrong list!" if someone is using a beta or rawhide
release _as a user_, we could just be more accepting of those posts here.
Of course, some times the response would be "well, that's beta still, so
don't expect perfection". But in reality, a lot of software that's updated
in rawhide or beta is upstream changes, and those changes are likely to
land in final. To me, it makes perfect sense to talk about the user impact
here. In the cases where it then goes into a QA topic, we could encourage
discussion to move to the test list (or to a bug report).


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Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Robert P. J. Day
On Thu, 2 May 2019, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > Looking at services on fedora 30 I didn't recognize
> > from fedora 29, I did an rpm -q -i to tell me about
> > the new tpm2-abrmd.service:
> >
> > tpm2-abrmd is a system daemon implementing the TPM2 access broker (TAB) and
> > Resource Manager (RM) spec from the TCG.
> >
> > I haven't had such a laugh since my old IBM 360 days
> > when I looked up error code IEC020I to find it means:
> >
> > TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified.
>
> Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been
> an IBMer though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKQzqwn-jIM

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Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 02 May 2019 20:39:34 +0100
Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

> > TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified.  
> 
> Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an
> IBMer though.

That's the point. Their "explanation" in the messages
and code manual was laughable gibberish.

P.S. What it really meant was that the $@#! operator in
the comp center mounted the wrong tape which had unexpected
block sizes and blew up the program trying to read it
(at least that's what it always meant the 47,000 times
it happened to me :-).

Now if I could only tell what the tpm2-abrmd service
does and if I need it running for any reason...
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 18:40 +0200, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:55 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
> > On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote:
> > > On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
> > >  wrote:
> > > > I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should
> > > > go on the Test list. That is the official policy of this list.
> > > 
> > > AFAIK, it's from time that this email [1] is sent that the "users"
> > > list is ok, not from the time that this email [2] is sent out.
> > > 
> > > [1] "is go", April 26:
> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GLN2FU2O5K6WVX4Y2ST3VOALV6ML35U2/
> > > 
> > > [2] "released", April 30:
> > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AXZGT6H6XPS26W2MTBJNCZGQA5SK3NOZ/
> > 
> > That's also a reasonable interpretation. I'll try to bear it in mind
> > next time
> 
> It's not my interpretation. There was a thread similar to this one a
> few years ago where someone said with authority (it seemed to me!)
> that this was the policy.

Possibly, though I don't recall it. Maybe it should be written down
somewhere. Maybe it *is* written down somewhere ...

> 
> > (and believe me, there will inevitably be a next time ...)
> 
> We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious
> threads on an almost twice-yearly basis.

I used to read the Test list as well as this one but stopped a couple
of years ago when I realised I wasn't getting much out of discussions
of Rawhide issues and decided to stick to the stable releases, so
unifying the lists would be a retrograde step in my view.

poc
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Re: Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 15:20 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> Looking at services on fedora 30 I didn't recognize
> from fedora 29, I did an rpm -q -i to tell me about
> the new tpm2-abrmd.service:
> 
> tpm2-abrmd is a system daemon implementing the TPM2 access broker (TAB) and
> Resource Manager (RM) spec from the TCG.
> 
> I haven't had such a laugh since my old IBM 360 days
> when I looked up error code IEC020I to find it means:
> 
> TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified.

Nope, several minutes of staring and I don't get it. I've never been an
IBMer though.

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Fedora 30 chuckle for the day

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
Looking at services on fedora 30 I didn't recognize
from fedora 29, I did an rpm -q -i to tell me about
the new tpm2-abrmd.service:

tpm2-abrmd is a system daemon implementing the TPM2 access broker (TAB) and
Resource Manager (RM) spec from the TCG.

I haven't had such a laugh since my old IBM 360 days
when I looked up error code IEC020I to find it means:

TCP erropt = ABE and/or no SYNAD exit specified.
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Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/02/2019 11:14 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 10:18:22AM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:

On 05/02/2019 08:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:

Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/  and I invite you to try it out.

I've been getting nothing but Error 503 Backend fetch failed and a
Guru meditation from there for several days now.


That's the first report of this I've heard. Perhaps you have something
cached which is sending you to the old DNS?



Even after clearing my cache, I get that from Firefox, but Seamonkey 
picks it up OK.

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Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Rich Emberson
This morning I got the dreaded grub prompt on boot.
Took me 3 hours to understand what

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade
was talking about. I did a bunch of searching and trying things out before
I hit upon
the configfile grub command.
Note that
  grub> configfile /grub2/grub.cfg.rpmsave
as shown in the common bugs is not appropriate on my machine, there was no
/grub2 (see below).

grub> insmod ext2
grub> insmod luks
grub> insmod xfs
grub> ls
  (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5)

# note: under (hd0,msdos1) is /boot
# note: under (hd0,msdos3) is encrypted /
# note: under (hd0,msdos5) is encrypted /home
# note: cryptomount -a does not work!!!
grub> cryptomount hd0,msdos3
grub> insmod lvm
grub> ls
  (crypto0) (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5)
# note: did not need to decrypt / for this to work...

grub> configfile (hd0,1)/grub/grub.cfg.rpmsave

# got old boot menu :-)
# boot into F29

# after boot...
> su

# /sbin/grub2-install /dev/sda
# /sbin/reboot

# reboot into F30
# good as new...


On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 10:33 AM richard emberson 
wrote:

> I got the dreaded grub prompt on boot this morning
> Took me 3 hours to understand what
>
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade
> was talking about. I did a bunch of searching and trying things out
> before I hit upon
> the configfile grub command.
> Note that
>grub> configfile /grub2/grub.cfg.rpmsave
> as shown in the common bugs is not appropriate on my machine, there was
> no /grub2 (see below).
>
> grub> insmod ext2
> grub> insmod luks
> grub> insmod xfs
> grub> ls
>(hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5)
>(thunderbird:3111): libnotify-WARNING **: 10:29:55.823: Failed to
> connect to proxy
> # note: under (hd0,msdos1) is /boot
> # note: under (hd0,msdos3) is encrypted /
> # note: under (hd0,msdos5) is encrypted /home
> # note: cryptomount -a does not work!!!
> grub> cryptomount hd0,msdos3
> grub> insmod lvm
> grub> ls
>(crypto0) (hd0) (hd0,msdos1) (hd0,msdos3) (hd0,msdos5)
> # note: did not need to decrypt / for this to work...
> grub> configfile (hd0,1)/grub/grub.cfg.rpmsave
>
> # got old boot menu :-)
> # boot into F29
>
> # after boot...
>  > su
> 
> # /sbin/grub2-install /dev/sda
> # /sbin/reboot
>
> # reboot into F30
> # good as new...
>
>
>
> On 5/2/19 7:59 AM, David Dusanic wrote:
> > Am 01.05.19 um 00:03 schrieb Chris Murphy:
> >> Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common
> >> it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that
> >> originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had
> >> 'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just
> >> by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade.
> >>
> >>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade
> >>
> >>
> >> It's worth going through all the Common Bugs.
> >>
> >
> > I am not entirely sure about this issue and now I have read all the
> > posts about it and this Grub 'lesson' is just not getting into me.
> >
> > So far the upgrade went fine as usual in my case. And now why I am
> > replying here. My legacy boot has Grub and instead of booting into the
> > newest Fedora 30 kernel it boots by default into an older one from
> > Fedora 29. I never saw this before. So I have to catch up before the
> > Grub prompt automatically selects the second kernel in the boot menu.
> >
> > Anybody experiencing this?
> >
>
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Re: issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Todd Zullinger
Ulf Volmer wrote:
> On 02.05.19 18:32, Greg Woods wrote:
> 
>> Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB
>> stick?
> 
> Just use dd to write the iso directly to the USB device. Assuming, you
> USB drive is sdb:
> 
> sudo dd if=Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso bs=1M of=/dev/sdb
> 
> Works for me.

Indeed, unetbootin is known to have issues with the Fedora
images.  The documentation does mention this (in the third
paragraph):


https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora/f30/install-guide/install/Preparing_for_Installation/#_fedora_media_writer

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Re: EXTERNAL: Re: issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Wells, Roger K. via users
On 5/2/19 1:01 PM, Ulf Volmer wrote:
> On 02.05.19 18:32, Greg Woods wrote:
>
>> Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB
>> stick?
> Just use dd to write the iso directly to the USB device. Assuming, you
> USB drive is sdb:
>
> sudo dd if=Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso bs=1M of=/dev/sdb
>
> Works for me.
me too
>
> Best regards
> Ulf
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Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 10:18:22AM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 05/02/2019 08:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> >Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at
> >https://ask.fedoraproject.org/  and I invite you to try it out.
> I've been getting nothing but Error 503 Backend fetch failed and a
> Guru meditation from there for several days now.

That's the first report of this I've heard. Perhaps you have something
cached which is sending you to the old DNS?

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Re: issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Ulf Volmer
On 02.05.19 18:32, Greg Woods wrote:

> Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB
> stick?

Just use dd to write the iso directly to the USB device. Assuming, you
USB drive is sdb:

sudo dd if=Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso bs=1M of=/dev/sdb

Works for me.

Best regards
Ulf
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 1:55 PM Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
> On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote:
>> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
>>  wrote:


>>> I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should
>>> go on the Test list. That is the official policy of this list.
>>
>> AFAIK, it's from time that this email [1] is sent that the "users"
>> list is ok, not from the time that this email [2] is sent out.
>>
>> [1] "is go", April 26:
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GLN2FU2O5K6WVX4Y2ST3VOALV6ML35U2/
>>
>> [2] "released", April 30:
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AXZGT6H6XPS26W2MTBJNCZGQA5SK3NOZ/
>
> That's also a reasonable interpretation. I'll try to bear it in mind
> next time

It's not my interpretation. There was a thread similar to this one a
few years ago where someone said with authority (it seemed to me!)
that this was the policy.


> (and believe me, there will inevitably be a next time ...)

We should unify the two lists so as not to have these delirious
threads on an almost twice-yearly basis.
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issues with F30 Live USB stick

2019-05-02 Thread Greg Woods
I created an F30 Live USB stick, but it won't boot properly. What happens
is that it drops into emergency mode (dracut). Prior to this, journal
messages from dracut-initqueue appear on the screen, the same message
repeating every few seconds for a minute or so, then  it drops into
emergency mode. The repeating message is:

dracut--initqueue timeout -- starting timeout scripts

Then it just says "Warning: could not boot" and drops into emergency mode.

I did verify that my download of
"Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-30-1.2.iso" is good (the calculated
sha256sum matches the checksum from the download site). I created the stick
using "unetbootin" which has always worked for me with previous Fedora
releases. I tried rerunning "unetbootin" to recreate the on-stick OS, but
the result was the same. I tried the stick on a Dell laptop and on a
desktop based on the ASUS Z87 motherboard, same result.

Anybody else seen this? Has anyone successfully created an F30 Live USB
stick?

Thanks,
--Greg
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Re: new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/02/2019 08:50 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:

Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/  and I invite you to try it out.


I've been getting nothing but Error 503 Backend fetch failed and a Guru 
meditation from there for several days now.

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Re: Eclipse and Fedora 30 upgrade issue

2019-05-02 Thread David Dusanic

Matthew Saltzman:

Is there a workaround for the issue where the Fedora 30 upgrade decides
that all of Eclipse is not compatible with Fedora 30 and removes the
complete collection of Eclipse packages?

If it's best to wait until the issue is resolved before upgrading,
will GNOME Software automatically update my downloaded upgrade
packages? If not, how to make sure that update happens before the
install?

Thanks.



This is what I found:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1692089

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Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread David Dusanic

Am 01.05.19 um 00:03 schrieb Chris Murphy:

Just a heads up that this can be an issue, but I'm not sure how common
it is. It applies to BIOS (not UEFI) firmware, and for systems that
originally had Fedora 20 or older installed and also never had
'grub2-install' issued since then. Therefore it can be prevented just
by running 'grub2-install' before commencing the Fedora 30 upgrade.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Common_F30_bugs#GRUB_boot_menu_is_not_populated_after_an_upgrade

It's worth going through all the Common Bugs.



I am not entirely sure about this issue and now I have read all the 
posts about it and this Grub 'lesson' is just not getting into me.


So far the upgrade went fine as usual in my case. And now why I am 
replying here. My legacy boot has Grub and instead of booting into the 
newest Fedora 30 kernel it boots by default into an older one from 
Fedora 29. I never saw this before. So I have to catch up before the 
Grub prompt automatically selects the second kernel in the boot menu.


Anybody experiencing this?

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new Ask Fedora site

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
Hi everyone! We have a new questions-and-help centered forum at
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/ and I invite you to try it out.

(This is based on the Discourse software, same as
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org but with a different site mission.)
This mailing list isn't going anywhere, but as the world marches on we need
new ways to reach out and interact with people. The previous AskBot site had
some strengths but overall wasn't as successful as I'd like it to be. So,
we're trying something new. Take a look, tell us what you think, and,
hopefully, stay around and participate.

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rpmfusion nvidia drivers and BLS?

2019-05-02 Thread Tom Horsley
I have theoretically disabled the BLS stuff
(so I can boot fedora 30 with the configfile
command from an older grub that knows nothing
of the BLS support in the configfile).

This worked, but now I wonder about the state
of the rpmfusion nvidia drivers and what they
can deal with when changing kernel options
(to blacklist nouveau).

How much trouble are folks using the nvidia binaries
in with the new grub stuff?
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Re: (fedora) Re: Printing problems after upgrade to F30

2019-05-02 Thread Jouk Jansen
berend.de.schouwer wrote on 2-MAY-2019 10:55:14.20

>On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 09:23 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote:
>> berend.de.schouwer wrote on 1-MAY-2019 16:37:59.62
>> 
>> > On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 11:48 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote:
>> > > If I try to reconfigure the printer via cups and indicate that
>> > > the
>> > > printer
>> > > is to be shared, I get the message that sharing is not possible
>> > > for a
>> > > Kerberos-printer. On this system I never configured Kerberos. So
>> > > what
>> > > is
>> > > happening here? 
>> > I've got an identical problem.  I've filed a bug report here:
>> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1700791
>> > I think it was caused by:
>> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1662408
>> > I don't think it's triggered by "Shared"; but rather by
>> > "AuthInfoRequired" that changes from None or Username,Password to
>> > Negotiate.
>> > To work around it, here's what I did:
>> > - move /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb to /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real
>> > - write a script /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb to replace it:
>> > #!/bin/sh
>> > cat - | /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real "${@}"
>> > Remember to make it executable.  You'll notice this just calls
>> > smb.real.  The actual change is that this script exits with 0, so
>> > Cups
>> > never sees an error.  Suddenly it doesn't trigger AuthInfoRequired,
>> > and
>> > actually prints.
>> > NOTE: this will be overwritten every time cups is upgraded.  The
>> > workaround can be smarter if you change DeviceURI to something else
>> > (say smbworks://) and create a script accordingly.
>> > I do this at work for a printer that has every non-SMB port
>> > firewalled.
>> 
>> If I do the smb.real trick, I'm able to change the "Shared" and the
>> "AuthInfoRequied"
>> but even now I cannot print. In the "gnome-control=center" the jobs
>> end up
>> "paused". I get a pop-up-bubbel in my gnome session telling me that
>> "credentials are required". I thought they should be picked up from
>> the
> DeviceURL.
>They should, they do for me.
>Old jobs are still stuck in paused.
>You can see DeviceURI in the logs.  You may need to change loglevel in
>cupsd.conf to debug, because it can be a security risk to log
>passwords.

I raised the loglevel even to debug2, but I see no trace at all of the calls
to smb when I do "journalctl -e"

I see traces of the job I send but all of them with the uri ipp://localhost...
I see no errors there.

>>You can also try modifying the script to:
>>#!/bin/sh
>>/usr/bin/logger -t "${0}[${$}]" "Called with [${@}]"
>>/usr/bin/logger -t "${0}[${$}]" "DEVICE_URI=[${DEVICE_URI}]"
>cat - | /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real "${@}"


Entering these lines in the script, gave me nothing: no trace of the logs
when running "journalctl -e"


How can I check if samba is called correctly?


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Re: I say thanks for a new release !

2019-05-02 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 07:35:05PM -,   sixpack13 wrote:
> anyone ?!

You're welcome. :) On behalf of everyone, thanks for the appreciation!
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Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 8:10 AM Ralf Corsepius  wrote:
> On 5/1/19 8:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
>
>> It happens if the most recent 'grub2-install' happened with a Fedora
>> 20 or older GRUB package. e.g. if you installed Fedora 20 clean, then
>> did an OS upgrade every 6-12 months all the way through to Fedora 30,
>> then you'd probably run into this bug. But if at any point from Fedora
>> 21 and newer you ever did a 'grub2-install' you won't hit it.
>
> I am not sure if this applies in my case and don't have any possibility
> to check for it anymore.
>
> The pecularity of my system, is it using a gpt formated boot disk though
> it being a BIOS system (Using a 1M BIOS boot partition).
>
> Does Fedora's updater support this case? The installer does.

The difference between dos- and gpt-labelled disks on bios firmware is
that "core.img" is embedded in the MBR gap and in a bios-boot
partition respectively.
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 12:35 +0200, Tom H wrote:
> On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
> > I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should go on
> > the Test list. That is the official policy of this list.
> 
> AFAIK, it's from time that this email [1] is sent that the "users"
> list is ok, not from the time that this email [2] is sent out.
> 
> [1] "is go", April 26:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GLN2FU2O5K6WVX4Y2ST3VOALV6ML35U2/
> 
> [2] "released", April 30:
> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AXZGT6H6XPS26W2MTBJNCZGQA5SK3NOZ/

That's also a reasonable interpretation. I'll try to bear it in mind
next time (and believe me, there will inevitably be a next time ...)

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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 18:40 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> When is jury selection?
> 
> I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty.

Quite.

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Re: IcedTeaWeb: (/usr/bin/javaws): how to run it from firefox with -noupdate option?

2019-05-02 Thread Dario Lesca
Il giorno mer, 01/05/2019 alle 17.36 -0700, stan via users ha scritto:
> Since this is an issue with firefox

No, this is not a FF problem.

If you download the jnlp file into a temp dir, then try to open via
line command, you get the same problem

[lesca@dodo ~]$ wget -q
jws.agenziaentrate.it/jws/dichiarazioni/2018/FEL18.jnlp -O
/tmp/FEL18.jnlp[lesca@dodo ~]$ javaws.itweb /tmp/FEL18.jnlp # (wait
10/15 munutes)

Only if you use the javaws.itweb "-noupdate" option all work fine ... 

so who is this problem?


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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Neal Becker
Sjoerd Mullender wrote:

> On 02/05/2019 08.30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
>> On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
>>> On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote:
 It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you
 could run
 ps or something.  My laptop doesn't have a disk activity light, so
 there's
 no way to tell if it's doing anything.
>>>
>>> I've been able to go to another virtual terminal by type Ctr-Alt-F2, but
>>> only when using the graphical interface during the upgrade.  After that
>>> I was able to login as root.
>> 
>> How did you have a graphical interface during the upgrade?  Were you
>> using "dnf upgrade" instead of "dnf system-upgrade"?
> 
> I didn't do anything special.  The systems I tried this on both run X11
> (XFCE, so no wayland), and I just got this graphical display (Fedora
> logo in the middle of the screen and update messages at the top).  I
> guess it's the plymouth package that takes care of these graphics.
> 
> I used dnf system-upgrade to do the upgrades.
> 

Actually, fiddling around with Alt-F2 etc I did manage to get to a root 
login shell.
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[389-users] Re: docs for 1.4

2019-05-02 Thread Angel Bosch Mora
> If you have a specific question though, I’d be happy to help!
>

I'm glad you offered :)

these are the attributes I'm currently using:

cn:
description:
displayName::
dn:
employeeNumber:
gecos:
gidNumber:
homeDirectory:
loginShell:
mail:
manager:
member:
memberOf:
objectClass:
petraSshPublicKey:
printer-make-and-model:
printer-more-info:
printer-uri:
sambaAcctFlags:
sambaNTPassword:
sambaPasswordHistory:
sambaPwdLastSet:
sambaSID:
shadowInactive:
shadowLastChange:
shadowMax:
shadowWarning:
sn:
uid:
uidNumber:


I want to change ACIs from old behaviour to white list aproach.
Should I include objectClass in the ACIs?

Do I need to create a deny-all as last ACI so everything that is not allowed 
gets denied?

In your blog you talk about a toolset to test ACIs, is that tool published 
somewhere?

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Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 7:19 PM Charles R. Dennett  wrote:
> On 5/1/19 11:07 AM, Tom H wrote:
>> On Wed, May 1, 2019 at 12:48 PM Charles R. Dennett  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is there any way to tell just by looking for the presence or absence
>>> of any particular file or directory that you would run into this
>>> bug?
>>
>> Unless you're multi-booting and grub's managed by another
>> distribution, you may as well run "grub2-install /dev/...". The bug
>> report says that it's supposed to be fragile, but it last failed for
>> me seven years ago (more or less) with "/boot" on mdraid1. Maybe I've
>> just been lucky...
>
> I went ahead and run grub2-install /dev/sda and rebooted. All seems
> well. No changes in the boot process that I could see. I still get the
> kernel menu and then it boots and I get all the messages about what's
> starting. (I removed the rhgb and quiet option years ago. As an old
> retired Linux/Solaris admin I prefer to see things happening. It just
> makes me feel better.)

Good :)

There shouldn't be a difference. BLS means that the grub menu's built
from "/boot/loader/entries/*" instead of from a monolithic
"/boor/grub2/grub.cfg".

I had to use "grub2-switch-to-blscfg" for the switch to be made, for a
new install using dnf instead of anaconda. The latter might set up BLS
by default (does anyone know?).
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ed Greshko

When is jury selection?

I imagine there must be an upcoming trial to address this travesty.
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Tom H
On Thu, May 2, 2019 at 11:46 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
>
> I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should go on
> the Test list. That is the official policy of this list.

AFAIK, it's from time that this email [1] is sent that the "users"
list is ok, not from the time that this email [2] is sent out.

[1] "is go", April 26:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/GLN2FU2O5K6WVX4Y2ST3VOALV6ML35U2/

[2] "released", April 30:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/devel-annou...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/AXZGT6H6XPS26W2MTBJNCZGQA5SK3NOZ/
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 08:49 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 5/2/19 8:32 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 4/30/19 8:33 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> > > You redirected the OP to test@, at a point in time, when - though fc30 
> > > had not been formally announced - fc30 already had been in place on 
> > > the download servers.
> > > 
> > > That said, you were just behaving bureaucratic and nit-picking, IMHO.
> > 
> > Even though it had been technically "released", an upgrade problem right 
> > at release is probably better brought to the attention of the QA people.
> 
> Are you seriously trying to tell us, these folks will look into reported 
> probs, when the release already was rubberstamped "go" several hours 
> before the OPs posting and technically in place on the mirrors?
> 
> Serious, I find this rediculous.

I pointed out that a post relating to unreleased software should go on
the Test list. That is the official policy of this list.

When dealing with a new release of Fedora, up to the point it is
announced, I consider it to be unreleased. There doesn't appear to be
any formal definition of what "released" means other than the
announcement, so that's what I'm going with.

And the number of times we see posts related to unreleased software on
this list leads me to the conclusion that, far from being bureaucratic
and nit-picking, the occasional reminder is necessary.

poc
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Re: (fedora) Re: Printing problems after upgrade to F30

2019-05-02 Thread Berend De Schouwer
On Thu, 2019-05-02 at 09:23 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote:
> berend.de.schouwer wrote on 1-MAY-2019 16:37:59.62
> 
> > On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 11:48 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote:
> > > If I try to reconfigure the printer via cups and indicate that
> > > the
> > > printer
> > > is to be shared, I get the message that sharing is not possible
> > > for a
> > > Kerberos-printer. On this system I never configured Kerberos. So
> > > what
> > > is
> > > happening here? 
> > I've got an identical problem.  I've filed a bug report here:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1700791
> > I think it was caused by:
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1662408
> > I don't think it's triggered by "Shared"; but rather by
> > "AuthInfoRequired" that changes from None or Username,Password to
> > Negotiate.
> > To work around it, here's what I did:
> > - move /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb to /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real
> > - write a script /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb to replace it:
> > #!/bin/sh
> > cat - | /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real "${@}"
> > Remember to make it executable.  You'll notice this just calls
> > smb.real.  The actual change is that this script exits with 0, so
> > Cups
> > never sees an error.  Suddenly it doesn't trigger AuthInfoRequired,
> > and
> > actually prints.
> > NOTE: this will be overwritten every time cups is upgraded.  The
> > workaround can be smarter if you change DeviceURI to something else
> > (say smbworks://) and create a script accordingly.
> > I do this at work for a printer that has every non-SMB port
> > firewalled.
> 
> If I do the smb.real trick, I'm able to change the "Shared" and the
> "AuthInfoRequied"
> but even now I cannot print. In the "gnome-control=center" the jobs
> end up
> "paused". I get a pop-up-bubbel in my gnome session telling me that
> "credentials are required". I thought they should be picked up from
> the
> DeviceURL.

They should, they do for me.

Old jobs are still stuck in paused.

You can see DeviceURI in the logs.  You may need to change loglevel in
cupsd.conf to debug, because it can be a security risk to log
passwords.

You can also try modifying the script to:

#!/bin/sh
/usr/bin/logger -t "${0}[${$}]" "Called with [${@}]"
/usr/bin/logger -t "${0}[${$}]" "DEVICE_URI=[${DEVICE_URI}]"
cat - | /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real "${@}"

You may need to restart cups, or re-enable the printer (cupsenable MY-
PRINTER-NAME)

Sorry I can't be more help.
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Re: How do I generate grub for legacy?

2019-05-02 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 5/1/19 2:48 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

I have a Fedora 30 flash drive set up for dual booting
from Legacy or UEFI.  It boots beautifully from UEFI.
(It also have a bios_grub partition).

It booted perfectly from both under Fedora 29.

Now when booting from legacy, it go into "System Setup".
If you press system Setup, I get a "/grub/core-system"
type error



The exact message, which only appears for five second and
then goes back to system setup is

error: ../../grub-core/script/function.c:109can't find commadn 
`fwsetup`


"fwsetup" is used by the EFI boot and confirms that it is looking
for EFI

How do I get grub2-mkconfig to make me a legacy grub.cfg?




Remaking grub.cfg, I get

    # grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg
    Generating grub configuration file ...
    Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
    done

Uh.. I wanted legacy, not EFI.

What am I missing?

Many thanks,
-T


My procedure:

UEFI.BIOS.Dual.Boot.txt:

References that stink:
     https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=223015
     https://bl.ocks.org/gdamjan/05b799162e4b3e97a30d37a89fed0fa8

https://forum.level1techs.com/t/configure-grub-to-boot-legacy-and-uefi/129382 




Requirements:
    Fedora 29

    Before installing, gparted:
   Wipe the target disk

   create a partition table as GPT

   create a first partition as
   1 Meg
   unformatted
   set the partition flag to "bios_grub"

    Install Fedora 29 from a UEFI machine:
   "/home" was removed at installation and moved into "/"

--->>>   PRESUMED !!!   <<<---
   The machine was install and booted from UEFI
   The machine is mounted as /dev/sda


Install the legacy BIOS boot loader:

Boot into fedora on UEFI

only installs 3 files
# dnf reinstall grub2-pc

create the BIOS .cfg file
# grub2-mkconfig -o /boot/grub2/grub.cfg

Note: if this complains, you forgot to create the partition above
# grub2-install --removable --recheck --target=i386-pc 
--boot-directory=/boot /dev/sda

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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Sjoerd Mullender
On 02/05/2019 08.30, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:
>> On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote:
>>> It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you
>>> could run
>>> ps or something.  My laptop doesn't have a disk activity light, so
>>> there's
>>> no way to tell if it's doing anything.
>>
>> I've been able to go to another virtual terminal by type Ctr-Alt-F2, but
>> only when using the graphical interface during the upgrade.  After that
>> I was able to login as root.
> 
> How did you have a graphical interface during the upgrade?  Were you
> using "dnf upgrade" instead of "dnf system-upgrade"?

I didn't do anything special.  The systems I tried this on both run X11
(XFCE, so no wayland), and I just got this graphical display (Fedora
logo in the middle of the screen and update messages at the top).  I
guess it's the plymouth package that takes care of these graphics.

I used dnf system-upgrade to do the upgrades.

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Re: (fedora) Re: Printing problems after upgrade to F30

2019-05-02 Thread Jouk Jansen
berend.de.schouwer wrote on 1-MAY-2019 16:37:59.62

>On Wed, 2019-05-01 at 11:48 +0200, Jouk Jansen wrote:
>> 
>> If I try to reconfigure the printer via cups and indicate that the
>> printer
>> is to be shared, I get the message that sharing is not possible for a
>> Kerberos-printer. On this system I never configured Kerberos. So what
>> is
>> happening here? 
>I've got an identical problem.  I've filed a bug report here:
>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1700791
>I think it was caused by:
>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1662408
>I don't think it's triggered by "Shared"; but rather by
>"AuthInfoRequired" that changes from None or Username,Password to
>Negotiate.
>To work around it, here's what I did:
>- move /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb to /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real
>- write a script /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb to replace it:
>#!/bin/sh
>cat - | /usr/lib/cups/backend/smb.real "${@}"
>Remember to make it executable.  You'll notice this just calls
>smb.real.  The actual change is that this script exits with 0, so Cups
>never sees an error.  Suddenly it doesn't trigger AuthInfoRequired, and
>actually prints.
>NOTE: this will be overwritten every time cups is upgraded.  The
>workaround can be smarter if you change DeviceURI to something else
>(say smbworks://) and create a script accordingly.
>I do this at work for a printer that has every non-SMB port firewalled.

If I do the smb.real trick, I'm able to change the "Shared" and the
"AuthInfoRequied"
but even now I cannot print. In the "gnome-control=center" the jobs end up
"paused". I get a pop-up-bubbel in my gnome session telling me that
"credentials are required". I thought they should be picked up from the
DeviceURL.

   Jouk
   


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Re: spamprobe

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/1/19 9:57 PM, Scott van Looy via users wrote:

db_verify sp_words

Lots of lines like:
db_verify: BDB1087 Page 5308: Btree level incorrect: got 0, expected 1
db_verify: BDB0501 Page 5309: btree or recno page is of inappropriate type 0
db_verify: BDB0502 Page 5309: totally zeroed page

Then

db_verify: sp_words: BDB0090 DB_VERIFY_BAD: Database verification failed
BDB5105 Verification of sp_words failed.

db_recover seems to run very quick and at the end I end up with an additional 
10mb file called log.01 and I don’t know what to do with it. The 
original db file remains the same

Running with -v gives me

BDB2526 Finding last valid log LSN: file: 1 offset 28

But I’m pretty confused about how this is meant to work!


It's quite possible that it's not recoverable.  I don't know what else 
to suggest.  I've had lots of trouble with the db in freeipa which is 
the same type.

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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 5/2/19 8:32 AM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 4/30/19 8:33 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
You redirected the OP to test@, at a point in time, when - though fc30 
had not been formally announced - fc30 already had been in place on 
the download servers.


That said, you were just behaving bureaucratic and nit-picking, IMHO.


Even though it had been technically "released", an upgrade problem right 
at release is probably better brought to the attention of the QA people.


Are you seriously trying to tell us, these folks will look into reported 
probs, when the release already was rubberstamped "go" several hours 
before the OPs posting and technically in place on the mirrors?


Serious, I find this rediculous.
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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 4/30/19 8:33 PM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
You redirected the OP to test@, at a point in time, when - though fc30 
had not been formally announced - fc30 already had been in place on the 
download servers.


That said, you were just behaving bureaucratic and nit-picking, IMHO.


Even though it had been technically "released", an upgrade problem right 
at release is probably better brought to the attention of the QA people.

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Re: update to F30 seems to have failed

2019-05-02 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/1/19 9:56 AM, Sjoerd Mullender wrote:

On 01/05/2019 17.50, Neal Becker wrote:

It's too bad you can't get a bash prompt during the upgrade so you could run
ps or something.  My laptop doesn't have a disk activity light, so there's
no way to tell if it's doing anything.


I've been able to go to another virtual terminal by type Ctr-Alt-F2, but
only when using the graphical interface during the upgrade.  After that
I was able to login as root.


How did you have a graphical interface during the upgrade?  Were you 
using "dnf upgrade" instead of "dnf system-upgrade"?

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Re: GRUB prompt after F29 to F30 upgrade

2019-05-02 Thread Ralf Corsepius

On 5/1/19 8:24 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:


It happens if the most recent 'grub2-install' happened with a Fedora
20 or older GRUB package. e.g. if you installed Fedora 20 clean, then
did an OS upgrade every 6-12 months all the way through to Fedora 30,
then you'd probably run into this bug. But if at any point from Fedora
21 and newer you ever did a 'grub2-install' you won't hit it.


I am not sure if this applies in my case and don't have any possibility 
to check for it anymore.


The pecularity of my system, is it using a gpt formated boot disk though 
it being a BIOS system (Using a 1M BIOS boot partition).


Does Fedora's updater support this case? The installer does.

Ralf

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