Re: Driver for Epson Photo Printer

2020-05-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 13:19 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
> If it is a network printer you could run a windows virtual machine
> and print from there (maybe USB pass-through would also work
> for a direct connection).

I think network printers are always the way to go.  You can put the
printer anywhere, you can more easily use it by more than one device,
they tend to be more likely to support a common printing language than
USB-only devices (which are quite likely to use some custom Windows
driver for each product, because it's easier for them to just do their
own coding balls-ups than adhere to any public specicification, and
sell you a new scanner when their driver becomes obsolete).

> I know I gave up long ago on a working scanner for linux
> and do all my scanning (fortunately not a lot of it) from
> my windows 10 virtual machine.

I've always managed to get scanning working.  I had an old USB scanner,
well still do somewhere, that worked quite well (it's mechanical
stuffed, the toothed drive belt has gone stiff).  I have a pixma
printer scanner combo that I can get to scan, albeit only in a *very*
basic manner.  Xsane can't find it, but their ScanGear MP tool can.

Oddly, on the Mac, the printer can be used by USB or network, but their
drivers only support using the scanner over USB.  I can do it either
way on Linux.

The basic modes are an annoying shortcoming, fortunately I haven't
needed to do anything more than it offers, so far.  You have a document
or photo mode (document is fax-style black & white lithographic), a
colour or grayscale, and preset paper sizes.  There's no preview,
there's no customisable scan size/position options, no image levels
control (brightness, contrast, tint, etc) and there's only a scan JPEG
or scan PDF button.  If I want to do multipage PDF, I have to use
something else to merge them (such as pdfunite on the command line).

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 18:56 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> VESA notices several resolutionns,
> including 1024x768 and 800x600 .
> I really do not understand why none of them are allowed.

As a general answer, the system checks out what the graphics chipset
can produce, and what the monitor supports, and will only make use of
mutually compatible modes.  It doesn't just look at the resolution, it
also looks at the scan rates (or pixel frequencies, for modern screen
types that don't really scan).
 
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 11:56 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> However, this could be a corner case that is difficult to solve, and
> thus a known issue where the solution is 'Don't do that!'.

I have to say that if I set something playing in Firefox and Audacity
(on CentOS, mind you, which also uses pulseaudio), both will play
simultaneously.

So my guess would be it's a configuration issue.  Perhaps they're not
using pulseaudio, and are trying to use the hardware directly.
 
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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/26/20 7:46 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2020, Samuel Sieb wrote:


On 5/26/20 12:24 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:



Note that since I using a live DVD,
changing a config file and
rebooting is not really an option.


Are you using a physical DVD or a live image put on USB?  If you put 
it on USB, then you can add an overlay so you can modify the config 
files.


I'd used an image on USB once and subsquently used a physical DVD,
mostly out of familiarity.
Could you give me a pointer on how to do overlays?


Assuming you have another computer available, install the "livecd-tools" 
package and run something like this:


livecd-iso-to-disk --format --msdos --overlay-size-mb 1024 
Fedora-Workstation-Live-x86_64-32-1.2.iso /dev/sdd


Replace the sdd with your USB drive, this will completely wipe the 
drive.  Put the name of whatever iso image you're using instead of the 
workstation one. The 1024 makes a 1GB overlay.  When you boot that 
drive, any changes you make will be persistent.  You can install 
packages, change configs, whatever you want, up to 1GB of changes. 
There's also an option to create a home partition as well, optionally 
encrypted, but you don't need that right now.  For now, the /home 
directory will be part of the overlay.


If you don't make any changes to the boot command line other than 
adding a "3" at the end, does it boot to a login prompt?


I'll check.

Is there any way to tell what resolution it uses for the menu screen?


I don't know of any way to tell.
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[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice to bring new servers into production

2020-05-26 Thread William Brown
There are a few options. The best would be a load balancer which has the ip's 
so that it's transparent to your LDAP servers where they are.

But also as mentioned, the virtual IP's honestly is the best way. Linux can 
have multiple IP's on an interface so you can just have two IP's on one 
interface, andthat's the best way to do this.

Alternately, don't rely on the IP, lower your DNS ttl's to a very short time, 
change the DNS A/ records, and then do it that way.



> On 27 May 2020, at 06:17, Crocker, Deborah  wrote:
> 
> I’d like not to take up two ip addresses per host indefinitely. We have 
> re-IP’d our hosts before so I know we can to do this but it was during a 
> downtime when everything was restarted. Just trying to get away with not 
> restarting the masters.
>  
> Deborah Crocker, PhD
> Systems Engineer III 
> Office of Information Technology 
> The University of Alabama
> Box 870346 
> Tuscaloosa, AL 36587 
> Office 205-348-3758 | Fax 205-348-9393 
> deborah.croc...@ua.edu
>  
> From: Leo Pleiman  
> Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:08 PM
> To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. 
> <389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] [389-users] Re: Advice to bring new servers into 
> production
>  
> My experience has been that the replicas and consumers have a unique id, more 
> than just an IP address which creates the trust relationship with the master. 
> If your goal is to simply maintain an IP so your clients don't have to be 
> repointed, I would build each new LDAP host and replication agreement, and 
> then as you decommission the old hosts use their IP address as a virtual IP 
> address on the replacement host. It would take a quick restart od the LDAP 
> service to start a listener on the virtual Ip address.
>  
> 
> Leo Pleiman
> Senior System Engineer
> Direct 202-787-3622
> Cell 410-688-3873
> 
>  
>  
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:57 PM Crocker, Deborah  wrote:
> We have a setup with 2 multi-masters and 3 consumers. We are now building new 
> host and want to put them in place ultimately at the same IP address as the 
> original ones. I need some advice on how to do this quickly and cleanly.
> 
> To add a new consumer the idea now is to set it up and set up replications 
> agreements from each master using consumer DNS name (don't start continuous 
> replication yet). After initializing new consumer from one master - turn off 
> old consumer, remove old consumer agreement from each master, and re-IP new 
> consumer. Do we need to restart masters to re-read DNS or will it pick that 
> up when it starts the next replication? Is this the best way to do this?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Deborah Crocker, PhD
> Systems Engineer III 
> Office of Information Technology 
> The University of Alabama
> Box 870346 
> Tuscaloosa, AL 36587 
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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/26/20 7:56 PM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2020, Samuel Sieb wrote:

If you don't make any changes to the boot command line other than 
adding a "3" at the end, does it boot to a login prompt?


Yes.
I'm using it.
I suppose this means that if I knew the right incantation,
I could get what I want  with startx and the
right combination of arguments and config files.


I'll answer in more detail to the other email, but what happens if you 
just run "startx".

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 26 May 2020, Samuel Sieb wrote:

If you don't make any changes to the boot command line other than adding a 
"3" at the end, does it boot to a login prompt?


Yes.
I'm using it.
I suppose this means that if I knew the right incantation,
I could get what I want  with startx and the
right combination of arguments and config files.

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 26 May 2020, Samuel Sieb wrote:


On 5/26/20 12:24 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:



Note that since I using a live DVD,
changing a config file and
rebooting is not really an option.


Are you using a physical DVD or a live image put on USB?  If you put it on 
USB, then you can add an overlay so you can modify the config files.


I'd used an image on USB once and subsquently used a physical DVD,
mostly out of familiarity.
Could you give me a pointer on how to do overlays?

If you don't make any changes to the boot command line other than adding a 
"3" at the end, does it boot to a login prompt?


I'll check.

Is there any way to tell what resolution it uses for the menu screen?

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 26 May 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote:


According to modprobe, lsmod and /proc/modules ,
i915 exists and intel_gap does not.

VESA notices several resolutionns,
including 1024x768 and 800x600 .
I really do not understand why none of them are allowed.


Also, I do not understand this snippet from dmesg:

[   52.473023] usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp
[   52.520979] pci :00:00.0: Intel Q33 Chipset
[   52.521068] pci :00:00.0: detected gtt size: 524288K total, 262144K 
mappable
[   52.521944] pci :00:00.0: detected 8192K stolen memory
[   52.522054] i915 :00:02.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console
[   52.522629] Console: switching to colour dummy device 80x25
[   52.523241] [drm] ACPI BIOS requests an excessive sleep of 4022337523 ms, 
using 1500 ms instead
[   52.523250] [drm] Supports vblank timestamp caching Rev 2 (21.10.2013).
[   52.523252] [drm] Driver supports precise vblank timestamp query.
[   52.523558] i915 :00:02.0: vgaarb: changed VGA decodes: 
olddecodes=io+mem,decodes=io+mem:owns=io+mem
[   52.540604] [drm] Initialized overlay support.
[   52.541025] [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20200114 for :00:02.0 on minor 0
[   52.541259] ACPI: Video Device [GFX0] (multi-head: no  rom: yes  post: no)
[   52.541379] input: Video Bus as 
/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input12
[   52.578582] fbcon: i915drmfb (fb0) is primary device
[   52.609798] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 180x56
[   52.630083] i915 :00:02.0: fb0: i915drmfb frame buffer device
[   52.867332] audit: type=1130 audit(1590532527.271:97): pid=1 uid=0 auid=4294967295 
ses=4294967295 subj=system_u:system_r:init_t:s0 msg='unit=systemd-udev-settle 
comm="systemd" exe="/usr/lib/systemd/systemd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=? 
res=success'

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/26/20 12:24 AM, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Tue, 26 May 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote:


How do I get xrandr or something else to do what I want,
i.e. change my resolution to 1440x900
when using the live DVD..


Note that since I using a live DVD,
changing a config file and
rebooting is not really an option.


Are you using a physical DVD or a live image put on USB?  If you put it 
on USB, then you can add an overlay so you can modify the config files.


If you don't make any changes to the boot command line other than adding 
a "3" at the end, does it boot to a login prompt?

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

According to modprobe, lsmod and /proc/modules ,
i915 exists and intel_gap does not.

VESA notices several resolutionns,
including 1024x768 and 800x600 .
I really do not understand why none of them are allowed.

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 26 May 2020, George N. White III wrote:


On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 16:19, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:



I upgraded from 2GB to 8GB.

liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ lspci | head -3
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express DRAM Controller (rev
02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express MEI
Controller (rev 02)



This should be using the i915 driver, but


Is ther a way to tell whether the DVD does not
have i915 or has i915 and botches?


https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/110573/what-is-i915-modeset-1-for#110589
may
explain some of your symptoms and has links to troubleshooting
examples.  I remember fighting with graphics on similar systems at work



liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480
default connected primary 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm
640x4800.00*
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$

Note maximum 640 x 480 .



Expected when using VESA.


Wasn't to me, especially since VESA found 1440x900 .
Also virtual console 3 gives me 1440 horizontal pixels:
160 9 pixel wide characters.

I think that the screen from which I
select run or install is a grub menu.
In any case, tab allows me to select kernel parameters.
Assuming I can get to another virtual console from there,
can I do something to make it work?

I'm going to try something now,
so might not be reading the list for a while.

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Re: troubles starting virt-manager as a user

2020-05-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-26 15:22, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 2020-05-27 03:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Normally when I start virt-mamager, I get a root password
prompt from xfce-polkit.


Don't forget to add the user to the libvirt group in /etc/group.  You won't
get a password prompt if you do that.



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Re: troubles starting virt-manager as a user

2020-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-27 03:47, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> Normally when I start virt-mamager, I get a root password
> prompt from xfce-polkit. 

Don't forget to add the user to the libvirt group in /etc/group.  You won't
get a password prompt if you do that.

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 16:19, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 May 2020, George N. White III wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 04:25, Michael Hennebry <
> > henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, 26 May 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote:
> >>
> >>> How do I get xrandr or something else to do what I want,
> >>> i.e. change my resolution to 1440x900
> >>> when using the live DVD..
>
> > We can't provide useful answers without more details of your hardware.
> > Were you running Centos 7 on the same HP Compac (sic) dc5800 Small Form
> > Factor?  If so were you using 32-bit or 64-bit CentoOS 7?  Are you using
> a
> > KVM switch?   The dc5800 came in many configurations, with RAM as little
> as
>
> Yes.  64-bit.  No.
>
> > 2GB and optional graphics cards.   Onboard graphics usually steals system
> > RAM memory space, so with 64-bit OS and 2G RAM you could be stuck with
> low
> > resolution.  KVM switches sometimes fail to pass correct monitor details.
>
> I upgraded from 2GB to 8GB.
>
> liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ lspci | head -3
> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express DRAM Controller (rev
> 02)
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express
> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
> 00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express MEI
> Controller (rev 02)
>

This should be using the i915 driver, but
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/110573/what-is-i915-modeset-1-for#110589
may
explain some of your symptoms and has links to troubleshooting
examples.  I remember fighting with graphics on similar systems at work
after they failed to run the new version of Windows.  Ours had ATI cards
but the drivers were buggy.   I used to keep a collection of graphics cards
for such situations, but in this case (with 2G RAM) I used them in headless
mode.


> [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$
>
> > What does "env | grep wayland" give?
>
> liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ env | grep -i wayland
> [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$
>
> > What do you get from "xrandr" without options?
>
> liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ xrandr
> xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
> Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480
> default connected primary 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm
> 640x4800.00*
> [liveuser@localhost-live ~]$
>
> Note maximum 640 x 480 .
>

Expected when using VESA.


>
> > Are there errors in Xorg.0.log?
>
> Yes.
>

Expected for VESA.

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Re: Raid array empty after restart - SOLVED

2020-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 11:07 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/26/20 4:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > On Mon, 2020-05-25 at 23:22 -0500, Gabriel Ramirez wrote:
> > > On 5/25/20 5:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > > Yes, I understand that. I still think the behaviour of mdadm in this
> > > > case is counter-intuitive. When I explicitly ask for the creation of an
> > > > array called /dev/md0 and the command first of all warns me that this
> > > > will (not "may") destroy the existing partition table and do I want to
> > > > proceed, then when I say yes apparently succeeds, I think I'm entitled
> > > > to think that /dev/md0 has been created, but it hasn't.
> > > 
> > > remember /dev is created at linux boot so the devices names are dynamic
> > > (/dev/mdN)
> > 
> > Yes, that's true. However I'm talking about immediately after doing the
> > array creation. If /dev/md0 is not a valid name because it will be
> > destroyed on reboot, shouldn't mdadm warn me?
> 
> I think there's a suggested number in the raid metadata, but it's not 
> necessarily used.  What would happen if you added two raid arrays with 
> the same number?
> 
> If you run "mdadm -E /dev/sdh1" where "sdh1" is a raid member, you can 
> see the metadata.  There's a line with "Name : hostname:0" and I think 
> the ":0" part is the md number.  But this raid array is actually at 
> md127.  I have another one with :126 which is at md126.
> 
> However, you shouldn't be using /dev/md* in your fstab anyway, you 
> should be using the filesystem UUID.

I'm doing that now in fact, and it seems to be stable.

poc
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 21:48 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > I've never heard of anyone using Audacity to play audio. No doubt there
> > is a way to do that, but that isn't its function. It's an audio editor,
> > not an audio player. I'm surprised it can even play audio streams as
> > I've only ever used it to edit audio files.
> 
> 
> Well you might need to play back your audio that you edited to check if you
> got the editing right.

Obviously it has to be able to play, which is why I said it could
probably be used as a player. Nonetheless it's not it's main use case,
which could explain the particular problems you're having.

> Nevertheless, a feature not working is a bug. Saying that its not used very
> often is not a very compelling excuse.

I've no interest in making excuses for Audacity. It has nothing to do
with me. I was merely pointing out that your particular use of it
appears to be unusual. For example you talk about it locking out access
from other software such as Firefox, which is something I would not be
surprised at in an editor which would need exclusive access to the
file.

poc
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Re: USB rtl8192eu not connecting.

2020-05-26 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 26 May 2020 at 22:15, Alessio wrote:

Subject:Re: USB rtl8192eu not connecting.
From:   Alessio 
To: Community support for Fedora users 

Date sent:  Tue, 26 May 2020 22:15:26 +0200
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora 
users 

> On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 06:06 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users
> wrote:
> > I've tried two usb rtl8192eu devices I've used in the 
> > past, but now I can not get either to connect with 
> > Fedora 30 or Fedora 31?
> > 
> > The devices load, and will even see the wifi, but the 
> > connection fails.
> 
> I've seen various reports like yours. It seems that the module shipped
> with the kernel (rtl8xxxu) doesn't work with rtl8192eu.
> 
> Have a look to this solution: 
> https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-are-there-any-drivers-for-usb-dongle-tp-link-wn823n-rtl8192eu-v3/1752/29
> 
Yes, had tired it. Just did it again.
Did the rpmrebuild and that runs and installs,
but then download from the git, but the make fails.

In file included from 
/root/RTL8192EU-master/include/../os_dep/linux/rtw_pro
c.h:18,
 from 
/root/RTL8192EU-master/include/osdep_intf.h:128,
 from 
/root/RTL8192EU-master/include/drv_types.h:104,
 from 
/root/RTL8192EU-master/os_dep/linux/rtw_proc.c:17:
./include/linux/proc_fs.h:59:31: note: expected ‘const 
struct proc_ops *’ but argument is of type ‘const struct 
file_operations *’
   59 | extern struct proc_dir_entry 
*proc_create_data(const char *, umode_t,
  |   ^~~~
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[2]: *** [scripts/Makefile.build:268: 
/root/RTL8192EU-master/os_dep/linux/rtw_proc.o] Error 
1
make[1]: *** [Makefile:1683: /root/RTL8192EU-master] 
Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory 
'/usr/src/kernels/5.6.13-100.fc30.x86_64'
make: *** [Makefile:1829: modules] Error 2

So, that is as far as it gets.

Thanks.



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> A.
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Re: troubles starting virt-manager as a user

2020-05-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 2020-05-26 13:24, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 5/26/20 1:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

I can not log out at the moment.  Too many things going on.


On 2020-05-26 12:56, Samuel Sieb wrote:
The root user doesn't have permission to access your display.  You 
could use xhost to allow it if you want.


An example?


Try "xhost +si:localuser:root".  You run that as your user.


That worked.  Thank you!
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Re: troubles starting virt-manager as a user

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/26/20 1:18 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

I can not log out at the moment.  Too many things going on.


On 2020-05-26 12:56, Samuel Sieb wrote:
The root user doesn't have permission to access your display.  You 
could use xhost to allow it if you want.


An example?


Try "xhost +si:localuser:root".  You run that as your user.
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Re: troubles starting virt-manager as a user

2020-05-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

I can not log out at the moment.  Too many things going on.


On 2020-05-26 12:56, Samuel Sieb wrote:
The root user doesn't have permission to access your display.  You could 
use xhost to allow it if you want.


An example?


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[389-users] Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Advice to bring new servers into production

2020-05-26 Thread Crocker, Deborah
I’d like not to take up two ip addresses per host indefinitely. We have re-IP’d 
our hosts before so I know we can to do this but it was during a downtime when 
everything was restarted. Just trying to get away with not restarting the 
masters.

Deborah Crocker, PhD
Systems Engineer III
Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama
Box 870346
Tuscaloosa, AL 36587
Office 205-348-3758 | Fax 205-348-9393
deborah.croc...@ua.edu

From: Leo Pleiman 
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2020 3:08 PM
To: General discussion list for the 389 Directory server project. 
<389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] [389-users] Re: Advice to bring new servers into production

My experience has been that the replicas and consumers have a unique id, more 
than just an IP address which creates the trust relationship with the master. 
If your goal is to simply maintain an IP so your clients don't have to be 
repointed, I would build each new LDAP host and replication agreement, and then 
as you decommission the old hosts use their IP address as a virtual IP address 
on the replacement host. It would take a quick restart od the LDAP service to 
start a listener on the virtual Ip address.


Leo Pleiman
Senior System Engineer
Direct 202-787-3622
Cell 410-688-3873
[https://docs.google.com/uc?export=download=0B5yMFvgldunoLUhna3pDUnVybEE=0B5yMFvgldunoK0M0bFU2VjU0TElKRXE2Q21SVXA0L3ZrNXg4PQ]


On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:57 PM Crocker, Deborah 
mailto:cr...@ua.edu>> wrote:
We have a setup with 2 multi-masters and 3 consumers. We are now building new 
host and want to put them in place ultimately at the same IP address as the 
original ones. I need some advice on how to do this quickly and cleanly.

To add a new consumer the idea now is to set it up and set up replications 
agreements from each master using consumer DNS name (don't start continuous 
replication yet). After initializing new consumer from one master - turn off 
old consumer, remove old consumer agreement from each master, and re-IP new 
consumer. Do we need to restart masters to re-read DNS or will it pick that up 
when it starts the next replication? Is this the best way to do this?

Thanks

Deborah Crocker, PhD
Systems Engineer III
Office of Information Technology
The University of Alabama
Box 870346
Tuscaloosa, AL 36587
Office 205-348-3758 | Fax 205-348-9393
deborah.croc...@ua.edu

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Re: USB rtl8192eu not connecting.

2020-05-26 Thread Alessio
On Wed, 2020-05-27 at 06:06 +1000, Michael D. Setzer II via users
wrote:
> I've tried two usb rtl8192eu devices I've used in the 
> past, but now I can not get either to connect with 
> Fedora 30 or Fedora 31?
> 
> The devices load, and will even see the wifi, but the 
> connection fails.

I've seen various reports like yours. It seems that the module shipped
with the kernel (rtl8xxxu) doesn't work with rtl8192eu.

Have a look to this solution: 
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/t/fedora-are-there-any-drivers-for-usb-dongle-tp-link-wn823n-rtl8192eu-v3/1752/29

Ciao,
A.

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[389-users] Re: Advice to bring new servers into production

2020-05-26 Thread Leo Pleiman
My experience has been that the replicas and consumers have a unique id,
more than just an IP address which creates the trust relationship with the
master. If your goal is to simply maintain an IP so your clients don't have
to be repointed, I would build each new LDAP host and replication
agreement, and then as you decommission the old hosts use their IP address
as a virtual IP address on the replacement host. It would take a quick
restart od the LDAP service to start a listener on the virtual Ip address.


Leo Pleiman
Senior System Engineer
Direct 202-787-3622
Cell 410-688-3873



On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 3:57 PM Crocker, Deborah  wrote:

> We have a setup with 2 multi-masters and 3 consumers. We are now building
> new host and want to put them in place ultimately at the same IP address as
> the original ones. I need some advice on how to do this quickly and cleanly.
>
> To add a new consumer the idea now is to set it up and set up replications
> agreements from each master using consumer DNS name (don't start continuous
> replication yet). After initializing new consumer from one master - turn
> off old consumer, remove old consumer agreement from each master, and re-IP
> new consumer. Do we need to restart masters to re-read DNS or will it pick
> that up when it starts the next replication? Is this the best way to do
> this?
>
> Thanks
>
> Deborah Crocker, PhD
> Systems Engineer III
> Office of Information Technology
> The University of Alabama
> Box 870346
> Tuscaloosa, AL 36587
> Office 205-348-3758 | Fax 205-348-9393
> deborah.croc...@ua.edu
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USB rtl8192eu not connecting.

2020-05-26 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
I've tried two usb rtl8192eu devices I've used in the 
past, but now I can not get either to connect with 
Fedora 30 or Fedora 31?

The devices load, and will even see the wifi, but the 
connection fails.

[107115.787875] wlp0s20u2: authenticate with 
d8:b6:b7:ef:20:40
[107115.796790] wlp0s20u2: send auth to 
d8:b6:b7:ef:20:40 (try 1/3)
[107115.999495] wlp0s20u2: send auth to 
d8:b6:b7:ef:20:40 (try 2/3)
[107116.201929] wlp0s20u2: send auth to 
d8:b6:b7:ef:20:40 (try 3/3)
[107116.406750] wlp0s20u2: authentication with 
d8:b6:b7:ef:20:40 timed out

Have tried with a notebook with built-in wifi, and it can 
connect to either wifi no problem. So, know password 
and all are correct. Tried on desktop system without 
built-in wifi, and it get the same error. 

Is there something that might cause the failure, or is 
there a way to see more detail on the error. Just says 
connection failed.

Thanks.

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Re: troubles starting virt-manager as a user

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/26/20 12:47 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Normally when I start virt-mamager, I get a root password
prompt from xfce-polkit.  I accidentally pressed
"Deny".  Now it won't start from a user anymore


I assume it saves that somewhere, but maybe only in memory.  Have you 
tried restarting the desktop or rebooting to clear it?



But I can start it from a shell as user root.


How are you doing that differently than the options you list below that 
aren't working?



But I can not use "su" or "beesu" to start it
from a user's account:

(virt-manager:28209): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:39:57.414: cannot open display: 
:0.0


The root user doesn't have permission to access your display.  You could 
use xhost to allow it if you want.

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troubles starting virt-manager as a user

2020-05-26 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

Hi All,

Normally when I start virt-mamager, I get a root password
prompt from xfce-polkit.  I accidentally pressed
"Deny".  Now it won't start from a user anymore

But I can start it from a shell as user root.

But I can not use "su" or "beesu" to start it
from a user's account:


$ su root -c virt-manager
Password:
$ No protocol specified
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
No protocol specified
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
No protocol specified
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused

(virt-manager:28209): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:39:57.414: cannot open display: 
:0.0



$ beesu virt-manager
$ No protocol specified
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
No protocol specified
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused
No protocol specified
Unable to init server: Could not connect: Connection refused

(virt-manager:28244): Gtk-WARNING **: 12:40:09.291: cannot open display: 
:0.0



Any words of wisdom?

Many thanks,
-T
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Re: Driver for Epson Photo Printer

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/26/20 10:19 AM, Tom Horsley wrote:

If it is a network printer you could run a windows virtual machine
and print from there (maybe USB pass-through would also work
for a direct connection).

I know I gave up long ago on a working scanner for linux
and do all my scanning (fortunately not a lot of it) from
my windows 10 virtual machine.


I have an HP Deskjet and a Brother laser AIO and I can scan from both.
The Gnome simple scanner works great for the things I need to scan.
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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 26 May 2020, George N. White III wrote:


On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 04:25, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:


On Tue, 26 May 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote:


How do I get xrandr or something else to do what I want,
i.e. change my resolution to 1440x900
when using the live DVD..



We can't provide useful answers without more details of your hardware.
Were you running Centos 7 on the same HP Compac (sic) dc5800 Small Form
Factor?  If so were you using 32-bit or 64-bit CentoOS 7?  Are you using a
KVM switch?   The dc5800 came in many configurations, with RAM as little as


Yes.  64-bit.  No.


2GB and optional graphics cards.   Onboard graphics usually steals system
RAM memory space, so with 64-bit OS and 2G RAM you could be stuck with low
resolution.  KVM switches sometimes fail to pass correct monitor details.


I upgraded from 2GB to 8GB.

liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ lspci | head -3
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express DRAM Controller (rev 02)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express Integrated 
Graphics Controller (rev 02)
00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express MEI 
Controller (rev 02)
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$


What does "env | grep wayland" give?


liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ env | grep -i wayland
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$


What do you get from "xrandr" without options?


liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 640 x 480, current 640 x 480, maximum 640 x 480
default connected primary 640x480+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   640x4800.00* 
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$


Note maximum 640 x 480 .


Are there errors in Xorg.0.log?


Yes.
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ grep -F "(EE)" /var/log/X*
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[   109.452] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[   109.453] (EE) open /dev/dri/card0: No such file or directory
[   109.570] (EE) Unable to find a valid framebuffer device
[   109.571] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[   109.571] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[   109.571] (EE) Screen 0 deleted because of no matching config section.
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$

liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ grep -F -e 1440 /var/log/X* | wc
 11 138 898
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ grep -F -e 640 /var/log/X* | wc
 22 1771211
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ grep -F -e 640 -e 1440 /var/log/X* 
[   109.871] (II) VESA(0): 640x480@60Hz

[   109.871] (II) VESA(0): 640x480@67Hz
[   109.871] (II) VESA(0): 640x480@72Hz
[   109.871] (II) VESA(0): 640x480@75Hz
[   109.871] (II) VESA(0): #0: hsize: 1440  vsize 900  refresh: 60  vid: 149
[   109.871] (II) VESA(0): #1: hsize: 1440  vsize 900  refresh: 75  vid: 3989
[   109.871] (II) VESA(0): h_active: 1440  h_sync: 1520  h_sync_end 1672 
h_blank_end 1904 h_border: 0
   109.871] (II) VESA(0): Serial No: LBP0C0164004
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0  106.50  1440 1520 1672 1904 
 900 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz eP)
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480 
481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz e)
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 664 704 832  480 
489 492 520 -hsync -vsync (37.9 kHz e)
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   30.24  640 704 768 864  480 
483 486 525 -hsync -vsync (35.0 kHz e)
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.18  640 656 752 800  480 
490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz e)
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 
1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz e)
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0  136.75  1440 1536 1688 1936 
 900 903 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz e)
[   109.872] (II) VESA(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  108.00  1280 1328 1440 
1688  1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz e)
[   109.879] Mode: 13c (1920x1440)
[   109.879]YResolution: 1440
[   109.880] Mode: 14d (1920x1440)
[   109.880]YResolution: 1440
[   109.884]BytesPerScanline: 6400
[   109.884]LinBytesPerScanLine: 6400
[   109.911] *Mode: 112 (640x480)
[   109.911]XResolution: 640
[   109.914] Mode: 101 (640x480)
[   109.914]BytesPerScanline: 640
[   109.914]XResolution: 640
[   109.915]LinBytesPerScanLine: 640
[   109.916] Mode: 111 (640x480)
[   109.916]XResolution: 640
[   109.919] (II) VESA(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 640)
[   109.919] (**) VESA(0): *Built-in mode "640x480"
[   110.114] (II) VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x112 (640x480)
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$


With 64-bit linux the system is very slow and eventually gives a reboot
popup blaming firefox -- probably due to the limited RAM.


A motivation for my 8GB.

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Re: Driver for Epson Photo Printer

2020-05-26 Thread Doug McGarrett



On 5/26/20 1:19 PM, Tom Horsley wrote:

If it is a network printer you could run a windows virtual machine
and print from there (maybe USB pass-through would also work
for a direct connection).

I know I gave up long ago on a working scanner for linux
and do all my scanning (fortunately not a lot of it) from
my windows 10 virtual machine.
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I have used XSane Scanner Tool on OpenSuse, and some years ago, on PCLinuxOs.
I have discovered that I had to tell my Epson all-in-one to have a fixed IP
address--in my case, 192.168.1.26--to make printing and scanning work in 
OpenSuse.
(I also had fixed IP in PCLinux, but I don't remember if it was necessary then.)
You should be able to tell the printer to use a fixed IP, and what it should be.
YMMV.

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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 26 May 2020 21:28:18 +0530
Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:

> Who do I point the finger at ? Who do I blame ?

Too easy.  You shouldn't float those soft pitches over the plate.
PEBKAC? :-^)
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread stan via users
On Tue, 26 May 2020 19:16:23 +0530
Sreyan Chakravarty  wrote:

> On 5/24/20 11:38 PM, stan via users wrote:
> > Did you try changing the playback device as the message suggests?
> > You need to select the analog output device in order to play audio.
> >  
> 
> Ok I spoke too soon and there is definitely is a problem and the
> problem is a really weird one.
> 
> 
> Lets say that you are playing a YouTube video on Firefox, and you
> pause the Youtube video in the browser and minimize it.
> 
> You now start Audacity and you will find that you can't play any
> audio on Audacity until Firefox is closed. 'sysdefault' and 'default'
> will have disappeared from Audacity.

Just to confirm, they are for the same user?  Both are using
pulseaudio?  If one is using alsa directly then the multi input, multi
output benefits of pulseaudio are not available.

> 
> What the kind of weird error is this ? I can't use Firefox and
> Audacity at the same time ?

What happens if instead of closing firefox, you close the youtube
video?  How have you got sound configured to use pulseaudio in firefox?
In audacity?  What if you don't minimize firefox?  It could be that
minimizing firefox locks the audio device to firefox, preventing
pulseaudio from using the output device.

> Is this a limitation of the Linux Sound subsystem ALSA ?

No, if you are using pulseaudio in both applications, it is happening
because of pulseaudio.  But, this is the whole purpose of pulseaudio.
It allows multiple inputs to be routed to multiple outputs, in various
combinations.  If there is not an error in your configuration, then
this could be a bug in pulseaudio.  I have to say this seems unlikely,
after all this time that pulseaudio has been in use.

But it could also be an error in the interaction of the desktop you are
using with pulseaudio.  It might be that the desktop is not forwarding
pulseaudio requests to minimized applications, so pulseaudio can't
reuse the audio device for a new audio request.  In that case it might
be a bug in the desktop.

However, this could be a corner case that is difficult to solve, and
thus a known issue where the solution is 'Don't do that!'.

> Does this happen for anyone else ?

Works fine for me, which is why I think it is something in your
configuration.

Also, if I use sound as two different users, one switches to another
device because it is locked out of the original device by pulseaudio.

I have also found that if I play sound as the same user in different
applications, they both play at the same time (similar to your use
case).  Not much point to having sound from two different sources
playing to a single output unless I'm trying to emulate a cocktail
party or something, but another data point.

If you don't want to continue troubleshooting, open a bugzilla against
pulseaudio, describing the behavior, and how to recreate it.  That will
let people more knowledgeable than me look at it.
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Re: wayland or not with nvidia

2020-05-26 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 14:06, Jon LaBadie  wrote:

> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 04:20:06PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> > On 2020-05-26 13:43, hw wrote:
> > > Ok, I take it that this mailing list is no more than a bad joke and
> only
> > > useful for trolls.  Everything that has been said so far is entirely
> > > irrelevant and nothing new.
> >
> > If you were to go to https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ you'd
> seen the versions of
> > nVidia drivers.  You can follow those links to learn what hardware is
> supported by what version.
> >

> As you know, Fedora Project doesn't distribute or support those drivers.
> >
> > At the moment the fine folks at rpmFusion supply
> >
> > 440 - Current hardware
> > 390 - Older Hardware
> > 340 - Older, Older Hardware
>
> Terminology is fun.  I'm considering update to F32 but was
> concerned about my now pretty old system and its nVidia graphics.
>
> Gee, my early 2013 system is still "current" according to nVidia.
> Probably not for much longer, it is a 600 series card and the
> oldest series on the list for the 440 drivers.
>

If you want Wayland you should have a look at the requirements section of
the Arch Linux Wiki Wayland .
Note that Nvidia is alone in using EGLStreams. When Nvidia says their
drivers support an older card you need to read the fine print to see what
"support" really means.   Older drivers aren't tested against current
distros by vendors, so you depend on other users to sort out what works.
Nvidia graphics has been a drain on linux developer and support
resources: Torvalds
gives Nvidia the finger
 in response to a
developer's remarks that she had to write her own driver for an Nvidia card
she had purchased 2 years previously.


> Guess I'll upgrade after all.
>

Avoid Nvidia.



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Re: Raid array empty after restart - SOLVED

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/26/20 4:15 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2020-05-25 at 23:22 -0500, Gabriel Ramirez wrote:

On 5/25/20 5:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Yes, I understand that. I still think the behaviour of mdadm in this
case is counter-intuitive. When I explicitly ask for the creation of an
array called /dev/md0 and the command first of all warns me that this
will (not "may") destroy the existing partition table and do I want to
proceed, then when I say yes apparently succeeds, I think I'm entitled
to think that /dev/md0 has been created, but it hasn't.


remember /dev is created at linux boot so the devices names are dynamic
(/dev/mdN)


Yes, that's true. However I'm talking about immediately after doing the
array creation. If /dev/md0 is not a valid name because it will be
destroyed on reboot, shouldn't mdadm warn me?


I think there's a suggested number in the raid metadata, but it's not 
necessarily used.  What would happen if you added two raid arrays with 
the same number?


If you run "mdadm -E /dev/sdh1" where "sdh1" is a raid member, you can 
see the metadata.  There's a line with "Name : hostname:0" and I think 
the ":0" part is the md number.  But this raid array is actually at 
md127.  I have another one with :126 which is at md126.


However, you shouldn't be using /dev/md* in your fstab anyway, you 
should be using the filesystem UUID.

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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread John Pilkington

On 26/05/2020 17:35, Kevin Becker wrote:

On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 21:48 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:

I've never heard of anyone using Audacity to play audio. No doubt there
is a way to do that, but that isn't its function. It's an audio editor,
not an audio player. I'm surprised it can even play audio streams as
I've only ever used it to edit audio files.


Well you might need to play back your audio that you edited to check 
if you got the editing right.


Nevertheless, a feature not working is a bug. Saying that its not used 
very often is not a very compelling excuse.




I've never edited any audio without also playing it back. It's not like 
the matrix where I can make out the sounds by looking at the sound waves.




I'm still with fc30, and kde.  'System Settings' offers me a virtual 
audio device with simultaneous output to the motherboard and nVidia 
hardware, and the on-screen audio widget lets me choose.  Perhaps fc32 
gnome has something similar?



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Re: Driver for Epson Photo Printer

2020-05-26 Thread Tom Horsley
If it is a network printer you could run a windows virtual machine
and print from there (maybe USB pass-through would also work
for a direct connection).

I know I gave up long ago on a working scanner for linux
and do all my scanning (fortunately not a lot of it) from
my windows 10 virtual machine.
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Re: wayland or not with nvidia

2020-05-26 Thread Jon LaBadie
On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 04:20:06PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> On 2020-05-26 13:43, hw wrote:
> > Ok, I take it that this mailing list is no more than a bad joke and only
> > useful for trolls.  Everything that has been said so far is entirely
> > irrelevant and nothing new.
> 
> If you were to go to https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ you'd seen 
> the versions of
> nVidia drivers.  You can follow those links to learn what hardware is 
> supported by what version.
> 
> As you know, Fedora Project doesn't distribute or support those drivers.
> 
> At the moment the fine folks at rpmFusion supply
> 
> 440 - Current hardware
> 390 - Older Hardware
> 340 - Older, Older Hardware

Terminology is fun.  I'm considering update to F32 but was
concerned about my now pretty old system and its nVidia graphics.

Gee, my early 2013 system is still "current" according to nVidia.
Probably not for much longer, it is a 600 series card and the
oldest series on the list for the 440 drivers.

Guess I'll upgrade after all.

Jon
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Re: Driver for Epson Photo Printer

2020-05-26 Thread James Szinger
On Mon, 25 May 2020 15:11:46 -0600
"S.Bob"  wrote:
> I just ordered this printer:
> 
>   Epson SureColor P900 17" Photo Printer
> 
> Any thoughts on where I can get a driver for it to print large
> photos? Or even the driver for it's predecessor the P800?

Gutenprint lists support for the P800 as experimental, and I didn't see
any mention of the P900---I suspect it's too new.  Copy your TIFFs to a
Mac for printing?

Jim
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Kevin Becker
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 21:48 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > I've never heard of anyone using Audacity to play audio. No doubt
> > there
> > is a way to do that, but that isn't its function. It's an audio
> > editor,
> > not an audio player. I'm surprised it can even play audio streams
> > as
> > I've only ever used it to edit audio files.
> 
> Well you might need to play back your audio that you edited to check
> if you got the editing right.
> 
> Nevertheless, a feature not working is a bug. Saying that its not
> used very often is not a very compelling excuse. 

I've never edited any audio without also playing it back.  It's not
like the matrix where I can make out the sounds by looking at the sound
waves.
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
>
> I've never heard of anyone using Audacity to play audio. No doubt there
> is a way to do that, but that isn't its function. It's an audio editor,
> not an audio player. I'm surprised it can even play audio streams as
> I've only ever used it to edit audio files.


Well you might need to play back your audio that you edited to check if you
got the editing right.

Nevertheless, a feature not working is a bug. Saying that its not used very
often is not a very compelling excuse.

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 9:45 PM Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

> On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 19:16 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> > On 5/24/20 11:38 PM, stan via users wrote:
> > > Did you try changing the playback device as the message suggests?  You
> > > need to select the analog output device in order to play audio.
> >
> > Ok I spoke too soon and there is definitely is a problem and the problem
> > is a really weird one.
> >
> >
> > Lets say that you are playing a YouTube video on Firefox, and you pause
> > the Youtube video in the browser and minimize it.
> >
> > You now start Audacity and you will find that you can't play any audio
> > on Audacity until Firefox is closed. 'sysdefault' and 'default' will
> > have disappeared from Audacity.
> >
> > What the kind of weird error is this ? I can't use Firefox and Audacity
> > at the same time ?
> >
> > Is this a limitation of the Linux Sound subsystem ALSA ?
> >
> > Does this happen for anyone else ?
>
> I've never heard of anyone using Audacity to play audio. No doubt there
> is a way to do that, but that isn't its function. It's an audio editor,
> not an audio player. I'm surprised it can even play audio streams as
> I've only ever used it to edit audio files.
>
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 19:16 +0530, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:
> On 5/24/20 11:38 PM, stan via users wrote:
> > Did you try changing the playback device as the message suggests?  You
> > need to select the analog output device in order to play audio.
> 
> Ok I spoke too soon and there is definitely is a problem and the problem 
> is a really weird one.
> 
> 
> Lets say that you are playing a YouTube video on Firefox, and you pause 
> the Youtube video in the browser and minimize it.
> 
> You now start Audacity and you will find that you can't play any audio 
> on Audacity until Firefox is closed. 'sysdefault' and 'default' will 
> have disappeared from Audacity.
> 
> What the kind of weird error is this ? I can't use Firefox and Audacity 
> at the same time ?
> 
> Is this a limitation of the Linux Sound subsystem ALSA ?
> 
> Does this happen for anyone else ?

I've never heard of anyone using Audacity to play audio. No doubt there
is a way to do that, but that isn't its function. It's an audio editor,
not an audio player. I'm surprised it can even play audio streams as
I've only ever used it to edit audio files.

poc
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty
Who do I point the finger at ? Who do I blame ?

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 8:34 PM jarmo  wrote:

> Tue, 26 May 2020 19:19:13 +0530
> Sreyan Chakravarty  kirjoitti:
>
>
> > Also forgot to mention, that Firefox is unable to play audio when
> > Audacity is open. So its one or the other. This is the most limiting
> > thing I have seen.
>
> This could be pulseaudio issue...
>
> Jarmo
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Re: Raid array empty after restart - SOLVED

2020-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-05-26 at 09:32 -0500, Roger Heflin wrote:
> If you want the name to stay the same then create a file in
> 
> /etc/mdadm.conf with something like this in it:
> 
> # mdadm.conf written out by anaconda
> 
> MAILADDR root
> 
> AUTO +imsm +1.x -all
> 
> 
> 
> ARRAY /dev/md13 metadata=1.2 level=raid6 num-devices=7
> 
> name=localhost.localdomain:11 UUID=a54550f7:da200f3e:90606715:06691490
> 
> POLICY domain=all action=re-add

Thanks.

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread George N. White III
On Tue, 26 May 2020 at 04:25, Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:

> On Tue, 26 May 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote:
>
> > How do I get xrandr or something else to do what I want,
> > i.e. change my resolution to 1440x900
> > when using the live DVD..
>
> Note that since I using a live DVD,
> changing a config file and
> rebooting is not really an option.
>
> > It is what I have on Centos 7.
> > That is where I got the numbers to use.
>

We can't provide useful answers without more details of your hardware.
Were you running Centos 7 on the same HP Compac (sic) dc5800 Small Form
Factor?  If so were you using 32-bit or 64-bit CentoOS 7?  Are you using a
KVM switch?   The dc5800 came in many configurations, with RAM as little as
2GB and optional graphics cards.   Onboard graphics usually steals system
RAM memory space, so with 64-bit OS and 2G RAM you could be stuck with low
resolution.  KVM switches sometimes fail to pass correct monitor details.


What does "env | grep wayland" give?
What do you get from "xrandr" without options?
Are there errors in Xorg.0.log?

I have an iMac with a Core 2 Duo CPU, ATI Mobility Radeon X1600 graphics,
and 2G ram. It is very usable running 32-bit Linux Mint 19 with 1680x1050
Xorg graphics.  Booting live 64-bit Fedora 30 from USB takes a very long
time, and ends up using X11 graphics:

[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ env | grep wayland
[liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 1680 x 1050, current 1680 x 1050, maximum 1680 x 1050
default connected primary 1680x1050+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1680x1050 77.00*

With 64-bit linux the system is very slow and eventually gives a reboot
popup blaming firefox -- probably due to the limited RAM.

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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread jarmo
Tue, 26 May 2020 19:19:13 +0530
Sreyan Chakravarty  kirjoitti:


> Also forgot to mention, that Firefox is unable to play audio when 
> Audacity is open. So its one or the other. This is the most limiting 
> thing I have seen.

This could be pulseaudio issue...

Jarmo 
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Re: Raid array empty after restart - SOLVED

2020-05-26 Thread Roger Heflin
If you want the name to stay the same then create a file in
/etc/mdadm.conf with something like this in it:
# mdadm.conf written out by anaconda
MAILADDR root
AUTO +imsm +1.x -all

ARRAY /dev/md13 metadata=1.2 level=raid6 num-devices=7
name=localhost.localdomain:11 UUID=a54550f7:da200f3e:90606715:06691490
POLICY domain=all action=re-add

On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 6:16 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
 wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2020-05-25 at 23:22 -0500, Gabriel Ramirez wrote:
> > On 5/25/20 5:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > > Yes, I understand that. I still think the behaviour of mdadm in this
> > > case is counter-intuitive. When I explicitly ask for the creation of an
> > > array called /dev/md0 and the command first of all warns me that this
> > > will (not "may") destroy the existing partition table and do I want to
> > > proceed, then when I say yes apparently succeeds, I think I'm entitled
> > > to think that /dev/md0 has been created, but it hasn't.
> >
> > remember /dev is created at linux boot so the devices names are dynamic
> > (/dev/mdN)
>
> Yes, that's true. However I'm talking about immediately after doing the
> array creation. If /dev/md0 is not a valid name because it will be
> destroyed on reboot, shouldn't mdadm warn me?
>
> > if you want give a name to the array and a device name under /dev/md
> > something like:
> >
> > mdadm --create /dev/md/var-even --raid-devices=2 --level=1
> > --name=var-even /dev/sd[ab]12
> >
> > the above command uses partition number 12 type fd00 on /dev/sd[ab]
> >
> > and format with:
> >
> > mkfs.ext4 -L 'var-even' /dev/md/var-even
> >
> > to prevent name collisions (if you mount the disk in another computer
> > with identical setup) find the partition uuid with:
> >
> > ls -lht /dev/md/var-even
> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 8 May 20 21:48 /dev/md/var-even -> ../md121
> >
> > and find the uuid pointing to md121 with:
> >
> > ls -lht /dev/disk/by-uuid/
> >
> > ...
> >
> > lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 11 May 20 21:48
> > 2108ba12-2ee3-5067-8de4-01c454867c5a -> ../../md121
> >
> > ...
> >
> > and use that uuid in fstab.
>
> Thanks. I'll bear that in mind if the existing /dev/md127p1 suddenly
> disappears.
>
> poc
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Re: [NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty


On 5/26/20 7:16 PM, Sreyan Chakravarty wrote:


On 5/24/20 11:38 PM, stan via users wrote:

Did you try changing the playback device as the message suggests?  You
need to select the analog output device in order to play audio.


Ok I spoke too soon and there is definitely is a problem and the 
problem is a really weird one.



Lets say that you are playing a YouTube video on Firefox, and you 
pause the Youtube video in the browser and minimize it.


You now start Audacity and you will find that you can't play any audio 
on Audacity until Firefox is closed. 'sysdefault' and 'default' will 
have disappeared from Audacity.


What the kind of weird error is this ? I can't use Firefox and 
Audacity at the same time ?


Is this a limitation of the Linux Sound subsystem ALSA ?

Does this happen for anyone else ?



Also forgot to mention, that Firefox is unable to play audio when 
Audacity is open. So its one or the other. This is the most limiting 
thing I have seen.


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[NOT SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty


On 5/24/20 11:38 PM, stan via users wrote:

Did you try changing the playback device as the message suggests?  You
need to select the analog output device in order to play audio.


Ok I spoke too soon and there is definitely is a problem and the problem 
is a really weird one.



Lets say that you are playing a YouTube video on Firefox, and you pause 
the Youtube video in the browser and minimize it.


You now start Audacity and you will find that you can't play any audio 
on Audacity until Firefox is closed. 'sysdefault' and 'default' will 
have disappeared from Audacity.


What the kind of weird error is this ? I can't use Firefox and Audacity 
at the same time ?


Is this a limitation of the Linux Sound subsystem ALSA ?

Does this happen for anyone else ?

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[SOLVED] Audacity can't play audio on Fedora 32

2020-05-26 Thread Sreyan Chakravarty


On 5/24/20 11:38 PM, stan via users wrote:

Pretty sure it is an RPM unless you have things configured strangely.
It is good to use the rpm from RPMFusion, because then you get the
patented audio and video codecs, so audacity can play audio from videos.
Not idea. Just went to GNOME Software and searched for Audacity and 
installed it. As long as it works fine I really don't care.

Did you try changing the playback device as the message suggests?  You
need to select the analog output device in order to play audio.


That did the trick. Thanks.

But weirdly I have 2 more devices in Audacity that are the 'sysdefault' 
and 'default', and these are the ones that work properly.



Your lack of knowledge created a response gap with the advice they were
giving.
Not sure which lack of knowledge you are referring to, but I wish they 
specified what info they needed from me.


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Re: bash/awk equivalent code to gnu datamash

2020-05-26 Thread None via users



Sent from ProtonMail, encrypted email based in Switzerland.

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, May 26, 2020 5:51 AM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 5/25/20 5:40 PM, None via users wrote:
>
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Monday, May 25, 2020 7:58 PM, Samuel Sieb sam...@sieb.net wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/25/20 12:08 PM, None via users wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thank you. I see what you mean. I have checked and see here
> > > > http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/60969.html
> > > > Still I wonder if I can get awk/bash/bc/dc it would be nice.
> > >
> > > Why do you want to use a complicated solution instead of the simple
> > > tool? I could easily make a bash script to do it, but what's the point?
> >
> > Portability. Ability to run on live systems, cell phones with termux and 
> > datamash and R are not installed, or there is not enough space to install 
> > them :)
>
> Ok, here you go, using only bash and bc. It calculates it both ways,
> first the mathematical way that R and datamash do and then the splitting
> values method.
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Thank you very much Samuel!
This does the job very nicely :)


Best Regards,

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Re: wayland or not with nvidia

2020-05-26 Thread Anthony F McInerney
On Mon, 25 May 2020 at 14:33, hw  wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> what is the current status of wayland with nvidia drivers in Fedora 32?
>
> Some search results seem to indicate that it's supposed to work by default.
> Others indicate that it still doesn't work.  The actual result is that it
> does not work unless I use the nouveau driver instead.  Unfortunately, the
> lack of performance with nouveau still requires nvidia drivers.
>
> If it's supposed to work, how do I get it to work?
>
>
There is some 'preliminary' work to get this going. However there are a few
hurdles it seems.

cat /usr/lib/udev/rules.d/61-gdm.rules
You'll notice the NVIDIA line in there, would need commented out for a
start.
It also depends on your nvidia model. If has vulkan support etc.

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/wayland-support/81296
https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/NVIDIA#Wayland
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Re: Raid array empty after restart - SOLVED

2020-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-05-25 at 23:22 -0500, Gabriel Ramirez wrote:
> On 5/25/20 5:23 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > Yes, I understand that. I still think the behaviour of mdadm in this
> > case is counter-intuitive. When I explicitly ask for the creation of an
> > array called /dev/md0 and the command first of all warns me that this
> > will (not "may") destroy the existing partition table and do I want to
> > proceed, then when I say yes apparently succeeds, I think I'm entitled
> > to think that /dev/md0 has been created, but it hasn't.
> 
> remember /dev is created at linux boot so the devices names are dynamic 
> (/dev/mdN)

Yes, that's true. However I'm talking about immediately after doing the
array creation. If /dev/md0 is not a valid name because it will be
destroyed on reboot, shouldn't mdadm warn me?

> if you want give a name to the array and a device name under /dev/md 
> something like:
> 
> mdadm --create /dev/md/var-even --raid-devices=2 --level=1 
> --name=var-even /dev/sd[ab]12
> 
> the above command uses partition number 12 type fd00 on /dev/sd[ab]
> 
> and format with:
> 
> mkfs.ext4 -L 'var-even' /dev/md/var-even
> 
> to prevent name collisions (if you mount the disk in another computer 
> with identical setup) find the partition uuid with:
> 
> ls -lht /dev/md/var-even
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 8 May 20 21:48 /dev/md/var-even -> ../md121
> 
> and find the uuid pointing to md121 with:
> 
> ls -lht /dev/disk/by-uuid/
> 
> ...
> 
> lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 11 May 20 21:48 
> 2108ba12-2ee3-5067-8de4-01c454867c5a -> ../../md121
> 
> ...
> 
> and use that uuid in fstab.

Thanks. I'll bear that in mind if the existing /dev/md127p1 suddenly
disappears.

poc
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Re: Raid array empty after restart

2020-05-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Mon, 2020-05-25 at 15:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > That decision was taken by mdadm without input from me, i.e. it's the
> > default. I see there is an "--assume-clean" option which would possibly
> > have skipped that step, though the man page doesn't recommend it unless
> > you know what you're doing, which I clearly don't. All the same, saying
> > "the partition table *will* be lost or meaningless after creating
> > array" is certainly wrong.
> 
> 
> It's not wrong.  You were in a very special case where you are 
> 
> recreating the same raid from two drives that were in exactly the same 
> 
> configuration.  In any other case, the partition table would be 
> 
> overwritten or would be invalid.  You probably could have even used the 
> 
> "--assume-clean" option to avoid the resync.

Certainly it's a special case, but the message is still wrong to state
that something will happen when it won't. As I said, mdadm has detected
the existence of an array, and knows (or can easily discover) what its
parameters are, and therefore know that the new creation will not
change them.

poc
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Re: wayland or not with nvidia

2020-05-26 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-05-26 13:43, hw wrote:
> Ok, I take it that this mailing list is no more than a bad joke and only
> useful for trolls.  Everything that has been said so far is entirely
> irrelevant and nothing new.

If you were to go to https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/unix/ you'd seen the 
versions of
nVidia drivers.  You can follow those links to learn what hardware is supported 
by what version.

As you know, Fedora Project doesn't distribute or support those drivers.

At the moment the fine folks at rpmFusion supply

440 - Current hardware
390 - Older Hardware
340 - Older, Older Hardware

Don't expect rpmFusion to be supplying 340 much longer due to difficulties 
integrating with
5.6 kernel as well as the fact that only one person active at rpmFusion, if I 
recall correctly, has
the needed hardware to test.

I didn't do much in the area of research since I'm not all that interested in 
running wayland at the
moment.  However, my understanding is that only the 440 driver will have 
support for wayland.

So, if you have the hardware which supports the 440 driver you can certainly 
test it yourself.

Also, you may wish to join a community dedicated to nVidia and the linux 
drivers.  They would
probably be much more helpful in answering questions. 

https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/c/gpu-unix-graphics/linux/148


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Re: wayland or not with nvidia

2020-05-26 Thread Joe Zeff

On 05/25/2020 11:43 PM, hw wrote:

Ok, I take it that this mailing list is no more than a bad joke and only
useful for trolls.  Everything that has been said so far is entirely
irrelevant and nothing new.


There's lots of information to be had here, but you have to give us 
something to work on.  Among other things, if you want to know if the 
drivers you need are available or will work with wayland, you need to 
tell us what card you're using because there's no single yes or no 
answer; it depends on your hardware.  The way I see it as a long-term 
member of this list, you have two choices: first, you can take that chip 
off your shoulder, tell us what you're using and let us help you, or you 
can go somewhere else to try to get help, but no matter where you go, 
you'll be expected to give some information in order to get answers. 
The choice is yours.

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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Tue, 26 May 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote:


How do I get xrandr or something else to do what I want,
i.e. change my resolution to 1440x900
when using the live DVD..


Note that since I using a live DVD,
changing a config file and
rebooting is not really an option.


It is what I have on Centos 7.
That is where I got the numbers to use.




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Re: fedora 32 live DVD crashes

2020-05-26 Thread Michael Hennebry

On Mon, 25 May 2020, Michael Hennebry wrote:


[liveuser@localhost-live proc]$ xrandr --fb 1440x900
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 640x480 (desired size 1440x900)
[liveuser@localhost-live proc]$


So I tried these commands:
xrandr --newmode "1440x900" 106.5 1440 1520 1672 1904  900 903 909 934

xrandr --addmode default 1440x900
xrandr --fb 1440x900
liveuser@localhost-live ~]$ xrandr --output default --mode 1440x900
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
xrandr: Configure crtc 0 failed

How do I get xrandr or something else to do what I want,
i.e. change my resolution to 1440x900
when using the live DVD..
It is what I have on Centos 7.
That is where I got the numbers to use.

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Re: wayland or not with nvidia

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/25/20 10:43 PM, hw wrote:

Ok, I take it that this mailing list is no more than a bad joke and only
useful for trolls.  Everything that has been said so far is entirely
irrelevant and nothing new.


If your questions aren't being answered then you need to be asking them 
better.  I have no idea what you're wanting to know.  Fedora will only 
distribute free software, so the NVidia drivers are not allowed.  You 
were asking about compatibility, but there's not much to say.  NVidia is 
the one being difficult, so it's up to them to be compatible.



AMD is no alternative.  Graphics cards from ATI and later AMD have always
been troublesome pieces of junk that have never been working right for over
20 years now.  Give me a free AMD card that gives me at least the same
performance and reliability as my current NVIDIA card and I'll try it.


I don't know why you think that.  I've been using only AMD cards for 
many years and they've been great.  I love that I have fully functional 
graphics without having to worry about drivers.  I've bought many 
laptops for teachers and others and I will only buy ones with either AMD 
or Intel graphics.  They work great and again I don't have to deal with 
the NVidia driver issues.

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Re: bash/awk equivalent code to gnu datamash

2020-05-26 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/25/20 5:40 PM, None via users wrote:

‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, May 25, 2020 7:58 PM, Samuel Sieb  wrote:


On 5/25/20 12:08 PM, None via users wrote:

Thank you. I see what you mean. I have checked and see here
http://mathforum.org/library/drmath/view/60969.html
Still I wonder if I can get awk/bash/bc/dc it would be nice.


Why do you want to use a complicated solution instead of the simple
tool? I could easily make a bash script to do it, but what's the point?



Portability.  Ability to run on live systems, cell phones with termux and 
datamash and R are not installed, or there is not enough space to install them 
:)


Ok, here you go, using only bash and bc.  It calculates it both ways, 
first the mathematical way that R and datamash do and then the splitting 
values method.


5sum.sh
Description: application/shellscript
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Re: wayland or not with nvidia

2020-05-26 Thread hw
On Mon, 2020-05-25 at 15:52 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote:
> On 5/25/20 2:52 PM, hw wrote:
> > On Mon, 2020-05-25 at 10:55 -0700, stan via users wrote:
> > > Why do you think this is a fedora or even wayland question?
> > 
> > Do you think it is not?
> 
> Fedora does not distribute NVidia drivers.  You got them from a third 
> party.  They are not "supported" except maybe by the third party.
> 
> > >It is the
> > > drivers in the kernel that determine what video resources are
> > > available.  I don't run wayland because it doesn't provide a service
> > > I
> > > need, but because nvidia is ubiquitous, if the kernel provides an
> > > interface to the device, wayland almost certainly can utilize the
> > > device.
> > 
> > Does the kernel shipped with Fedora provide such an interface?  If so,
> > then
> > why does wayland not use the device?  Or does Fedora come with a
> > version of
> > wayland that is made not to work with Fedora kernels?
> 
> Wayland works perfectly well with Fedora kernels.  The proprietary 
> NVidia driver is not part of the Fedora kernels.
> Fedora does ship an interface for NVidia cards, but it's in the nouveau 
> drivers.  If you don't use those, then it's not from Fedora.  It's up to 
> NVidia to provide the interface for wayland to use in their drivers.
> 
> > Besides, what's the alternative to nvidia?
> 
> AMD.  They work great out of the box.
> 
> If you have trouble getting an NVidia card to work on Linux, go complain 
> to NVidia.
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Ok, I take it that this mailing list is no more than a bad joke and only
useful for trolls.  Everything that has been said so far is entirely
irrelevant and nothing new.

AMD is no alternative.  Graphics cards from ATI and later AMD have always
been troublesome pieces of junk that have never been working right for over
20 years now.  Give me a free AMD card that gives me at least the same
performance and reliability as my current NVIDIA card and I'll try it.

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