Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/03/2021 15:09, Francisco Tissera wrote:


Thanks for the link to the Redhat docs regarding accessibility, it worked. I 
just needed to authorize my local user and root user so BRLTTY could be enabled 
under them and used.

Now though another problem arises.

There’s this problem with this library called xbrlapi, which basically is this 
library that let’s BRLTTY users type with their braille keyboard. The problem 
is, that when i try to execute it with the command

xbrlapi

even with admin wrights, an error about not beeing able to establish a 
connection to the BRLTTY daemon is given back to me.

Any suggestions?



Glad the link helped.

Again, not knowing anything, what is the output of the command

systemctl status brltty

?

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Re: USB SSD disk speed question

[Frederic Muller]

On 3/2/21 2:15 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 3/1/21 10:37 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
I bought a rather cheap but not so cheap 1TB SSD drive advertised at 
rw speeds of 450MB/s. I have 2 thinkpads, one X1 3rd gen and one X1 
6th gen. Now here is what happened:
1. On 3rd gen laptop with F32 I tested (and made a full backup) : 
45MB/s (NTFS)
2. I installed a the "brand new" F33, restored my backup and...: 
85MB/s (NTFS)
3. Since I was a tad late updating I told myself let's do it on the 
6th Gen too. Did a full backup on F32 at : ~400MB/s!!! (NTFS and ext4 
- did several backups)
4. I installed a fresh new F33 and the restore speed was then... 
50MB/s :-( (ext4)
5. I just restested the disk on the 3rd gen laptop and I am now 
(ext4) at 45MB/s (I also just upgrade my BIOS to its latest version 
for this test).


So I was wondering if there was any logical explanations and things I 
could do to ensure I use the disk at its maximum speed.


There are a lot of factors and you've left out some details.  Is this 
internal or external.  If external, then USB2 or USB3 (or something 
else)? 
As the title says it's indeed USB. Both machines have USB 3 ports, which 
I used without any hub or middle man.



What are you using for the backup and restore?  Even though there is 
almost no seek delay, reading and writing lots of random files 
involved a lot of IO operations.  If you really want to test the 
speed, you should use something like dd using a big blocksize.


dd if=/dev/zero of=/test.dat bs=8M count=1K
dd if=/test.dat of=/dev/null bs=8M
I used mainly the cp command line together with progress to get an idea 
of the execution status. I also used the benchmark from Disk under 
GNOME. The results are (were?) very consistent at each described phase.


And while I was not really testing per se (since I was ok with the 
initial 45MB/s, I really noticed when it went to 80+ and then 400+ ... 
and then down to 45.


Anyway since I am somehow back to initial lousy speeds and saw it way 
faster on the same machines, is there a "reliable" way to go back to 
more decent speed then?


Thank you.

Fred

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Re: USB SSD disk speed question

[Samuel Sieb]

On 3/1/21 10:37 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
I bought a rather cheap but not so cheap 1TB SSD drive advertised at rw 
speeds of 450MB/s. I have 2 thinkpads, one X1 3rd gen and one X1 6th 
gen. Now here is what happened:
1. On 3rd gen laptop with F32 I tested (and made a full backup) : 45MB/s 
(NTFS)
2. I installed a the "brand new" F33, restored my backup and...: 85MB/s 
(NTFS)
3. Since I was a tad late updating I told myself let's do it on the 6th 
Gen too. Did a full backup on F32 at : ~400MB/s!!! (NTFS and ext4 - did 
several backups)
4. I installed a fresh new F33 and the restore speed was then... 50MB/s 
:-( (ext4)
5. I just restested the disk on the 3rd gen laptop and I am now (ext4) 
at 45MB/s (I also just upgrade my BIOS to its latest version for this 
test).


So I was wondering if there was any logical explanations and things I 
could do to ensure I use the disk at its maximum speed.


There are a lot of factors and you've left out some details.  Is this 
internal or external.  If external, then USB2 or USB3 (or something 
else)?  What are you using for the backup and restore?  Even though 
there is almost no seek delay, reading and writing lots of random files 
involved a lot of IO operations.  If you really want to test the speed, 
you should use something like dd using a big blocksize.


dd if=/dev/zero of=/test.dat bs=8M count=1K
dd if=/test.dat of=/dev/null bs=8M
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RE: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

[Francisco Tissera]

Dear Ed, Thanks for the link to the Redhat docs regarding accessibility, it worked. I just needed to authorize my local user and root user so BRLTTY could be enabled under them and used.Now though another problem arises.There’s this problem with this library called xbrlapi, which basically is this library that let’s BRLTTY users type with their braille keyboard. The problem is, that when i try to execute it with the commandxbrlapieven with admin wrights, an error about not beeing able to establish a connection to the BRLTTY daemon is given back to me.Any suggestions?Thank you for your answers.Best regards.FranciscoFrom: Ed GreshkoSent: Monday, March 1, 2021 9:09 AMTo: users@lists.fedoraproject.orgSubject: Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions On 01/03/2021 15:49, Francisco Tissera wrote:> > I don’t know what though, and I can say that with the other distores it just worked out of the box.> > So my question is, has anyone experienced this problem? Does anyone know a solution to this, for me, huge deal? Using brltty 6.1, the one that comes inclooded with F33.>  I don't know anything about brltty.  But, I did find this and wonder if it may have some helpful information https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html/using_the_desktop_environment_in_rhel_8/configuring-desktop-environment-for-accessibility_using-the-desktop-environment-in-rhel-8 Also, I don't often use Workstation/GNOME.  But I know somethings may not work as well running underWayland.  Have you tried logging into a GNOME Xorg session? -- People who believe they don't make mistakes have already made one.___users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.orgTo unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.orgFedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelinesList Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.orgDo not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___
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USB SSD disk speed question

[Frederic Muller]

Hi!

I bought a rather cheap but not so cheap 1TB SSD drive advertised at rw 
speeds of 450MB/s. I have 2 thinkpads, one X1 3rd gen and one X1 6th 
gen. Now here is what happened:
1. On 3rd gen laptop with F32 I tested (and made a full backup) : 45MB/s 
(NTFS)
2. I installed a the "brand new" F33, restored my backup and...: 85MB/s 
(NTFS)
3. Since I was a tad late updating I told myself let's do it on the 6th 
Gen too. Did a full backup on F32 at : ~400MB/s!!! (NTFS and ext4 - did 
several backups)
4. I installed a fresh new F33 and the restore speed was then... 50MB/s 
:-( (ext4)
5. I just restested the disk on the 3rd gen laptop and I am now (ext4) 
at 45MB/s (I also just upgrade my BIOS to its latest version for this test).


So I was wondering if there was any logical explanations and things I 
could do to ensure I use the disk at its maximum speed.


Thank you.

Fred
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Re: Using a Windoze application

[Ed Greshko]

On 02/03/2021 12:33, Geoffrey Leach wrote:

I could, of course, install Windows, fiddle the partitions, then
install Fedora. Lots of work for something that would be used
occasionally. To say nothing of the annoying rebooting.


One choice, as Doug has suggested, is to use Wine.

I, however, have found Wine to be lacking for my needs.  So, I went a different 
route.
I have a Win10 Virtual Machine running under qemu.  No rebooting needed.  Just 
fire-up
the VM when you need to run Win app.

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Re: Using a Windoze application

[Cameron Simpson]

On 01Mar2021 23:45, Doug McGarrett  wrote:
>On 3/1/21 11:33 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:
>>I have a Windows 10 application on a USB stick. I need to run it
>>occasionally on a laptop that does not have Windows, but does have
>>fedora 32.
>>
>>I could, of course, install Windows, fiddle the partitions, then
>>install Fedora. Lots of work for something that would be used
>>occasionally. To say nothing of the annoying rebooting.
>>
>>Any suggestions on a better approach would be appreciated.
>>
>Install Wine on your Linux machine. Then the command
>wine windowsapp.exe should install it and let it run
>when you need it.

And if Wine isn't sufficient, there's always making a VM.

Cheers,
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Re: Using a Windoze application

[Doug McGarrett]

On 3/1/21 11:33 PM, Geoffrey Leach wrote:

I have a Windows 10 application on a USB stick. I need to run it
occasionally on a laptop that does not have Windows, but does have
fedora 32.

I could, of course, install Windows, fiddle the partitions, then
install Fedora. Lots of work for something that would be used
occasionally. To say nothing of the annoying rebooting.

Any suggestions on a better approach would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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wine windowsapp.exe should install it and let it run
when you need it.
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Re: Ethernet port "bounce" command?

[Tim via users]

On Tue, 2021-03-02 at 08:33 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote:
> Aye. FWIW, in a former life the place I worked at made all our
> crossover cables yellow so that we knew what we were looking at.

I'd always understood that gigabit didn't need crossover cables, though
just read that it's in the spec that gigabit can handle peer to peer
without a crossover cable, devices don't actually have to incorporate
that features into themselves.  Argh!  Back to square one.

Autocrossover was possible on 10/100 megabit ethernet devices, too, but
much more rarely implemented.

The old 10/100 ethernet crossover cable just crosses over two pairs in
the cable, and ignores the other two pairs (completely ignores them,
they're generally not used at all, and not crossed over).  Cheap
ethernet cables bundled with some routers didn't even wire up the spare
4 pins.

Gigabit ethernet cable crosses over all four pairs.

So, label your cables (half-crossed, fully-crossed, 2-pairs crossed, 4-
pairs crossed, whatever label makes the most sense to you).

Quite a few of us only connect computers together through switches or
routers, so don't use crossover cables.  But some of us also have
connect a switch to a switch, when doing inter-room networking.  I
wonder how many routers or switches stuff-up auto crossover?
 
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Using a Windoze application

[Geoffrey Leach]

I have a Windows 10 application on a USB stick. I need to run it
occasionally on a laptop that does not have Windows, but does have
fedora 32.

I could, of course, install Windows, fiddle the partitions, then
install Fedora. Lots of work for something that would be used
occasionally. To say nothing of the annoying rebooting.

Any suggestions on a better approach would be appreciated.

Thanks.
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Re: can't upgrade from fedora 31 to Fedora 32

[Samuel Sieb]

On 3/1/21 3:37 PM, Richard Shaw wrote:
On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 5:04 PM Paolo Galtieri > wrote:


Folks,
    I was trying to upgrade my Fedora 31 system to F32, but it
failed due
to conflicts.  Here's the output:

   Problem: conflicting requests
    - nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module
gimp:2.10:3120191106095052:f636be4b-0.x86_64


Try resetting modules

$ sudo dnf module reset gimp

Then try again and troubleshoot the next error.


It's actually irrelevant.  There was something added to dnf to 
automatically reset modules.  But that happens after the transaction is 
ready to go, so the other issue has to be dealt with first.

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Re: can't upgrade from fedora 31 to Fedora 32

[Richard Shaw]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 5:04 PM Paolo Galtieri  wrote:

> Folks,
>I was trying to upgrade my Fedora 31 system to F32, but it failed due
> to conflicts.  Here's the output:
>
>   Problem: conflicting requests
>- nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module
> gimp:2.10:3120191106095052:f636be4b-0.x86_64
>

Try resetting modules

$ sudo dnf module reset gimp

Then try again and troubleshoot the next error.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: can't upgrade from fedora 31 to Fedora 32

[Samuel Sieb]

On 3/1/21 3:03 PM, Paolo Galtieri wrote:

Folks,
   I was trying to upgrade my Fedora 31 system to F32, but it failed due 
to conflicts.  Here's the output:


sudo dnf system-upgrade download --skip-broken --refresh --releasever=32


Note that packages erlang-libguestfs, php-recode, and pyorbit-devel do 
not exist in F32.


So how do I go about upgrading to F32?


Try using "--allowerasing" instead of "--skip-broken".
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Re: can't upgrade from fedora 31 to Fedora 32

[Robert G. (Doc) Savage via users]

Paolo,

This is a common problem. Upgrade scripts frequently stumble when
packages from external repositories are installed. These can usually be
individually uninstalled manually (dnf erase ) before running the
upgrade script. Keep a list of the manually removed packages and try
re-installing them after the upgrade completes.

Hope this works for you.

Incidentally, you'll want to upgrade to F33 very soon since F32 will go
EOL shortly after F34 is released.

--Doc Savage
    Fairview Heights, IL

On Mon, 2021-03-01 at 15:03 -0800, Paolo Galtieri wrote:
> Folks,
>    I was trying to upgrade my Fedora 31 system to F32, but it failed
> due 
> to conflicts.  Here's the output:
> 
> sudo dnf system-upgrade download --skip-broken --refresh --
> releasever=32
> Before you continue ensure that your system is fully upgraded by
> running 
> "dnf --refresh upgrade". Do you want to continue [y/N]: y
> Adobe Systems Incorporated   27 kB/s | 2.9 kB
> 00:00
> Fedora Modular 32 - x86_64   60 kB/s |  14 kB
> 00:00
> negativo17 - Nvidia 4.9 kB/s | 3.9 kB
> 00:00
> Fedora Modular 32 - x86_64 - Updates 30 kB/s | 8.1 kB
> 00:00
> Fedora 32 - x86_64 - Updates 34 kB/s | 9.9 kB
> 00:00
> Fedora 32 - x86_64 - Updates    841 kB/s | 3.3 MB
> 00:03
> Fedora 32 - x86_64   35 kB/s |  14 kB
> 00:00
> google-chrome    12 kB/s | 1.3 kB
> 00:00
> google-earth-pro 28 kB/s | 1.3 kB
> 00:00
> google-earth 29 kB/s | 1.3 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Free - Updates    13 kB/s | 3.4 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Free 5.8 kB/s | 3.0 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Nonfree - Updates 12 kB/s | 3.0 kB
> 00:00
> RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Nonfree  4.6 kB/s | 2.6 kB
> 00:00
> skype (stable)  3.9 kB/s | 2.9 kB
> 00:00
> Fedora 32 - x86_64 - VirtualBox  62 kB/s | 2.9 kB
> 00:00
> Visual Studio Code   24 kB/s | 3.0 kB
> 00:00
> Modular dependency problem:
> 
>   Problem: conflicting requests
>    - nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module 
> gimp:2.10:3120191106095052:f636be4b-0.x86_64
> Error:
>   Problem 1: package erlang-libguestfs-1:1.40.2-8.fc31.x86_64
> requires 
> libguestfs(x86-64) = 1:1.40.2-8.fc31, but none of the providers can
> be 
> installed
>    - libguestfs-1:1.40.2-8.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a
> distupgrade 
> repository
>    - problem with installed package erlang-libguestfs-1:1.40.2-
> 8.fc31.x86_64
>   Problem 2: package php-recode-7.3.24-1.fc31.x86_64 requires 
> php-common(x86-64) = 7.3.24-1.fc31, but none of the providers can be 
> installed
>    - php-common-7.3.24-1.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade
> repository
>    - problem with installed package php-recode-7.3.24-1.fc31.x86_64
>   Problem 3: package pyorbit-devel-2.24.0-29.fc31.x86_64 requires 
> pyorbit = 2.24.0-29.fc31, but none of the providers can be installed
>    - pyorbit-2.24.0-29.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade 
> repository
>    - problem with installed package pyorbit-devel-2.24.0-
> 29.fc31.x86_64
> 
> Note that packages erlang-libguestfs, php-recode, and pyorbit-devel
> do 
> not exist in F32.
> 
> So how do I go about upgrading to F32?
> 
> Paolo
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can't upgrade from fedora 31 to Fedora 32

[Paolo Galtieri]

Folks,
  I was trying to upgrade my Fedora 31 system to F32, but it failed due 
to conflicts.  Here's the output:


sudo dnf system-upgrade download --skip-broken --refresh --releasever=32
Before you continue ensure that your system is fully upgraded by running 
"dnf --refresh upgrade". Do you want to continue [y/N]: y

Adobe Systems Incorporated   27 kB/s | 2.9 kB 00:00
Fedora Modular 32 - x86_64   60 kB/s |  14 kB 00:00
negativo17 - Nvidia 4.9 kB/s | 3.9 kB 00:00
Fedora Modular 32 - x86_64 - Updates 30 kB/s | 8.1 kB 00:00
Fedora 32 - x86_64 - Updates 34 kB/s | 9.9 kB 00:00
Fedora 32 - x86_64 - Updates    841 kB/s | 3.3 MB 00:03
Fedora 32 - x86_64   35 kB/s |  14 kB 00:00
google-chrome    12 kB/s | 1.3 kB 00:00
google-earth-pro 28 kB/s | 1.3 kB 00:00
google-earth 29 kB/s | 1.3 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Free - Updates    13 kB/s | 3.4 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Free 5.8 kB/s | 3.0 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Nonfree - Updates 12 kB/s | 3.0 kB 00:00
RPM Fusion for Fedora 32 - Nonfree  4.6 kB/s | 2.6 kB 00:00
skype (stable)  3.9 kB/s | 2.9 kB 00:00
Fedora 32 - x86_64 - VirtualBox  62 kB/s | 2.9 kB 00:00
Visual Studio Code   24 kB/s | 3.0 kB 00:00
Modular dependency problem:

 Problem: conflicting requests
  - nothing provides module(platform:f31) needed by module 
gimp:2.10:3120191106095052:f636be4b-0.x86_64

Error:
 Problem 1: package erlang-libguestfs-1:1.40.2-8.fc31.x86_64 requires 
libguestfs(x86-64) = 1:1.40.2-8.fc31, but none of the providers can be 
installed
  - libguestfs-1:1.40.2-8.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade 
repository

  - problem with installed package erlang-libguestfs-1:1.40.2-8.fc31.x86_64
 Problem 2: package php-recode-7.3.24-1.fc31.x86_64 requires 
php-common(x86-64) = 7.3.24-1.fc31, but none of the providers can be 
installed
  - php-common-7.3.24-1.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade 
repository

  - problem with installed package php-recode-7.3.24-1.fc31.x86_64
 Problem 3: package pyorbit-devel-2.24.0-29.fc31.x86_64 requires 
pyorbit = 2.24.0-29.fc31, but none of the providers can be installed
  - pyorbit-2.24.0-29.fc31.x86_64 does not belong to a distupgrade 
repository

  - problem with installed package pyorbit-devel-2.24.0-29.fc31.x86_64

Note that packages erlang-libguestfs, php-recode, and pyorbit-devel do 
not exist in F32.


So how do I go about upgrading to F32?

Paolo
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Re: Ethernet port "bounce" command?

[Cameron Simpson]

On 28Feb2021 13:41, Doug H.  wrote:
>P.S. I found a Belkin cable for $3.99. I like that name better, so 
>ordered it.
>Belkin 3-Foot CAT5e Crossover Molded Networking Cable (Yellow)
>
>It seems worth the test and worth having such a cable.

Aye. FWIW, in a former life the place I worked at made all our crossover 
cables yellow so that we knew what we were looking at.

Cheers,
Cameron Simpson 
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Re: dependency question

[Andras Simon]

2021-03-01 20:47 UTC+01:00, Samuel Sieb :
>> I missed 'kernel-modules-extra' among the packages that were installed.
>> Thanks!
>
> Yes, that was an annoying bug from a while back.  The debug packages got
> pulled in instead of the non-debug one.

I was wondering how and why all those debug packages got installed. Thanks!

Andras
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Re: dependency question

[Samuel Sieb]

On 3/1/21 7:31 AM, Andras Simon wrote:

2021-03-01 16:22 UTC+01:00, Jerry James :

The NetworkManager-l2tp package depends on xl2tpd, which depends on
kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).

$ dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko)'
kernel-debug-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64
kernel-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64

When you removed kernel-debug-modules-extra, your system did not have
kernel-modules-extra installed, leaving it with no packages providing
kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).  Therefore, xl2tpd had to be removed, which in turn
required the removal of NetworkManager-l2tp.

When you reinstalled NetworkManager-l2tp, its dependency on xl2tpd required
something providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko) to be installed.  Of the two packages
that provide kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko), kernel-modules-extra has the shorter name,
so it was installed to satisfy the dependency.  (Yum, at least, used the
"shorter name" rule.  I'm just guessing that dnf does likewise.)


I missed 'kernel-modules-extra' among the packages that were installed.
Thanks!


Yes, that was an annoying bug from a while back.  The debug packages got 
pulled in instead of the non-debug one.

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Re: FAS login issue

[Alessio]

Sorry. I didn't notify the list.
I contacted Alan privately.

Ciao,
A.

Mar 1, 2021 7:54:41 PM Kevin Fenzi :

> On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:28:36AM -0800, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
>> 
>> I created a Fedora FAS account a long while back. I cannot find the
>> account name I used and there seems to be no way to find it. The password
>> reset assumes you know what account name you used.
> 
> Anyone else with an account can look this up, or we also have a irc bot
> on freenode that can do lookups.
> 
>> Who do I talk to to get this fixed?
> 
> See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/
> 
> basically since you cannot login, mail ad...@fedoraproject.org and we
> will try and get things fixed for you. :)
> 
> kevin
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Re: FAS login issue

[Kevin Fenzi]

On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 10:28:36AM -0800, a...@clueserver.org wrote:
> 
> I created a Fedora FAS account a long while back. I cannot find the
> account name I used and there seems to be no way to find it. The password
> reset assumes you know what account name you used.

Anyone else with an account can look this up, or we also have a irc bot
on freenode that can do lookups. 

> Who do I talk to to get this fixed?

See https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/cpe/day_to_day_fedora/

basically since you cannot login, mail ad...@fedoraproject.org and we
will try and get things fixed for you. :) 

kevin


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Re: Formatting second hard disk

[Roberto Ragusa]

On 2/28/21 11:26 PM, Doug H. wrote:


I am sort of old school so tend to just use the `fdisk` command line util, but 
that is rather old so maybe gdisk would be the better option now.


fdisk now supports GPT too, there is no need to use gdisk

Regards.
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Re: no middle click paste with F33

[Frederic Muller]

On 3/1/21 10:34 PM, Matthew Miller wrote:

On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 05:58:40PM +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:

As a side note I am really "mouse-doomed", my MX Master 2S broke
yesterday and the mouse pointer no longer moves (all other buttons
seem to work), while my "spare mouse" has a faulty middle click.

I got an MX Anywhere 3, and discovered that it wants the scroll wheel to be
clicked for middle click -- the button doesn't work by default. Running
solaar let me configure it.

Thank you. Actually the mouse worked great for... 5 months. I use Piper 
for the buttons configuration. And it's still under warranty.


Doing some research online it seems to be the "gesture button" being to 
tight and blocking the pointer. Once unscrewed a little it works fine.


Going back to the shop tomorrow anyway.

Fred
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Re: no middle click paste with F33

[Matthew Miller]

On Mon, Mar 01, 2021 at 05:58:40PM +0700, Frederic Muller wrote:
> As a side note I am really "mouse-doomed", my MX Master 2S broke
> yesterday and the mouse pointer no longer moves (all other buttons
> seem to work), while my "spare mouse" has a faulty middle click.

I got an MX Anywhere 3, and discovered that it wants the scroll wheel to be
clicked for middle click -- the button doesn't work by default. Running
solaar let me configure it.

-- 
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Fedora Project Leader
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Re: dependency question

[Andras Simon]

2021-03-01 16:22 UTC+01:00, Jerry James :
> The NetworkManager-l2tp package depends on xl2tpd, which depends on
> kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).
>
> $ dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko)'
> kernel-debug-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64
> kernel-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64
>
> When you removed kernel-debug-modules-extra, your system did not have
> kernel-modules-extra installed, leaving it with no packages providing
> kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).  Therefore, xl2tpd had to be removed, which in turn
> required the removal of NetworkManager-l2tp.
>
> When you reinstalled NetworkManager-l2tp, its dependency on xl2tpd required
> something providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko) to be installed.  Of the two packages
> that provide kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko), kernel-modules-extra has the shorter name,
> so it was installed to satisfy the dependency.  (Yum, at least, used the
> "shorter name" rule.  I'm just guessing that dnf does likewise.)

I missed 'kernel-modules-extra' among the packages that were installed.
Thanks!

Andras
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Re: dependency question

[Jerry James]

On Mon, Mar 1, 2021 at 7:18 AM Andras Simon  wrote:

> Just out of curiosity: if package B depends on A, shown by the that
> removing A removes B, too, how come that after removing both, B can be
> installed without installing A?
> Here's what happened:
>
>
> # dnf erase kernel-debug-*
> Dependencies resolved.
>
> 
>  Package   Arch  Version  Repository
>  Size
>
> 
> Removing:
>  kernel-debug-core x86_645.10.8-100.fc32  @updates
>  77 M
>  kernel-debug-core x86_645.10.17-100.fc32 @updates
>  77 M
>  kernel-debug-core x86_645.10.18-100.fc32 @updates
>  77 M
>  kernel-debug-modules  x86_645.10.8-100.fc32  @updates
>  31 M
>  kernel-debug-modules  x86_645.10.17-100.fc32 @updates
>  31 M
>  kernel-debug-modules  x86_645.10.18-100.fc32 @updates
>  31 M
>  kernel-debug-modules-extrax86_645.10.8-100.fc32  @updates
> 2.0 M
>  kernel-debug-modules-extrax86_645.10.17-100.fc32 @updates
> 2.0 M
>  kernel-debug-modules-extrax86_645.10.18-100.fc32 @updates
> 2.0 M
> Removing dependent packages:
>  NetworkManager-l2tp   x86_641.8.2-1.fc32 @fedora
>  579 k
> Removing unused dependencies:
>  ldns  x86_641.7.0-29.fc32@fedora
>  425 k
>  libreswan x86_644.2-1.fc32   @updates
> 4.3 M
>  nss-tools x86_643.60.1-1.fc32@updates
> 2.3 M
>  xl2tpdx86_641.3.14-2.fc32@fedora
>  205 k
>
> Transaction Summary
>
> 
> Remove  14 Packages
>
> Freed space: 335 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
>
> [...]
> dnf install NetworkManager-l2tp
> Last metadata expiration check: 1:08:42 ago on Mon 01 Mar 2021 12:48:36 PM
> CET.
> Dependencies resolved.
>
> 
>  Package   ArchVersion   Repository
> Size
>
> 
> Installing:
>  NetworkManager-l2tp   x86_64  1.8.2-1.fc32  fedora
>  174 k
> Installing dependencies:
>  kernel-modules-extra  x86_64  5.10.18-100.fc32  updates
> 2.0 M
>  ldns  x86_64  1.7.0-29.fc32 fedora
>  165 k
>  nss-tools x86_64  3.60.1-1.fc32 updates
> 529 k
>  xl2tpdx86_64  1.3.14-2.fc32 fedora
> 95 k
> Installing weak dependencies:
>  libreswan x86_64  4.2-1.fc32updates
> 1.2 M
>
> Transaction Summary
>
> 
> Install  6 Packages
>
>
> Total download size: 4.1 M
> Installed size: 9.8 M
> Is this ok [y/N]: y
>

The NetworkManager-l2tp package depends on xl2tpd, which depends on
kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).

$ dnf repoquery --whatprovides 'kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko)'
kernel-debug-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64
kernel-modules-extra-0:5.10.18-200.fc33.x86_64

When you removed kernel-debug-modules-extra, your system did not have
kernel-modules-extra installed, leaving it with no packages providing
kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko).  Therefore, xl2tpd had to be removed, which in turn
required the removal of NetworkManager-l2tp.

When you reinstalled NetworkManager-l2tp, its dependency on xl2tpd required
something providing kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko) to be installed.  Of the two packages
that provide kmod(l2tp_ppp.ko), kernel-modules-extra has the shorter name,
so it was installed to satisfy the dependency.  (Yum, at least, used the
"shorter name" rule.  I'm just guessing that dnf does likewise.)
-- 
Jerry James
http://www.jamezone.org/
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Re: Hooks for automount

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Sun, 2021-02-28 at 18:03 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 10:13 AM Patrick O'Callaghan
>  wrote:
> > 
> > Is there a way to invoke scripts before auto-mounting and after auto-
> > unmounting? I want to be able to power an external drive up and down as
> > needed.
> 
> If you don't need much sophistication, you can add to fstab with options:
> noauto,x-systemd.automount
> 
> Since it's not a startup time dependency, startup won't hang waiting
> for it if it's not present. If present, it won't be automatically
> mounted until the mountpoint is accessed.
> 
> If you want it to automatically unmount when not being used, also include:
> x-systemd.idle-timeout="10m"

Yes, I get that, however unmounting is only part of the story. I also
want to invoke my power-down script (and conversely the power-up script
when mounting again).

poc
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Erratic startup of sound with F33

[Steve Underwood]

Hi,

Since I upgraded my desktop machine from F32 to F33 a couple of weeks 
ago I have been having problems with my sound devices. I never had any 
trouble before the upgrade. Every time I start my machine I can see all 
the sound devices in /dev, and I used use them OK by connecting directly 
to the ALSA devices. However, in pulseaudio (e.g. using its volume 
control app) I sometimes see all my sound devices, and sometimes I see 
none. If I shut down pulseaudio when I see none, and restart it a couple 
of times, the devices usually appear. I either see all of them 
(motherboard audio, HDMI audio from my nVidia 1050Ti board, and and EMU 
0404USB audio interface box) or none of them. The only one that is easy 
to remove is the EMU box, so I tried unplugging that. It did not stop 
the problem. I have yet to see pulseaudio start up with just one or two 
of these devices visible. Its always all or nothing. Is anyone else 
seeing this?


Regards,

Steve
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dependency question

[Andras Simon]

Just out of curiosity: if package B depends on A, shown by the that
removing A removes B, too, how come that after removing both, B can be
installed without installing A?
Here's what happened:


# dnf erase kernel-debug-*
Dependencies resolved.

 Package   Arch  Version  Repository   Size

Removing:
 kernel-debug-core x86_645.10.8-100.fc32  @updates 77 M
 kernel-debug-core x86_645.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 77 M
 kernel-debug-core x86_645.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 77 M
 kernel-debug-modules  x86_645.10.8-100.fc32  @updates 31 M
 kernel-debug-modules  x86_645.10.17-100.fc32 @updates 31 M
 kernel-debug-modules  x86_645.10.18-100.fc32 @updates 31 M
 kernel-debug-modules-extrax86_645.10.8-100.fc32  @updates2.0 M
 kernel-debug-modules-extrax86_645.10.17-100.fc32 @updates2.0 M
 kernel-debug-modules-extrax86_645.10.18-100.fc32 @updates2.0 M
Removing dependent packages:
 NetworkManager-l2tp   x86_641.8.2-1.fc32 @fedora 579 k
Removing unused dependencies:
 ldns  x86_641.7.0-29.fc32@fedora 425 k
 libreswan x86_644.2-1.fc32   @updates4.3 M
 nss-tools x86_643.60.1-1.fc32@updates2.3 M
 xl2tpdx86_641.3.14-2.fc32@fedora 205 k

Transaction Summary

Remove  14 Packages

Freed space: 335 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y

[...]
dnf install NetworkManager-l2tp
Last metadata expiration check: 1:08:42 ago on Mon 01 Mar 2021 12:48:36 PM CET.
Dependencies resolved.

 Package   ArchVersion   RepositorySize

Installing:
 NetworkManager-l2tp   x86_64  1.8.2-1.fc32  fedora   174 k
Installing dependencies:
 kernel-modules-extra  x86_64  5.10.18-100.fc32  updates  2.0 M
 ldns  x86_64  1.7.0-29.fc32 fedora   165 k
 nss-tools x86_64  3.60.1-1.fc32 updates  529 k
 xl2tpdx86_64  1.3.14-2.fc32 fedora95 k
Installing weak dependencies:
 libreswan x86_64  4.2-1.fc32updates  1.2 M

Transaction Summary

Install  6 Packages


Total download size: 4.1 M
Installed size: 9.8 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y

Andras
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Re: Fedora 33 vs Mageia 8

[Steven Usdansky via users]

Although I haven't entirely given up looking at different distros, I don't do 
nearly as much sampling as I used to. My current desktop hardware is 
well-supported by Fedora. Except for Waterfox Classic, if it's not in the 
Fedora or RPM Fusion repo, I typically don't want or need it. 
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Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

[George N. White III]

On Mon, 1 Mar 2021 at 03:49, Francisco Tissera 
wrote:

> Good day everybody,
>
>
>
> I’m Francisco, and I’m a blind high school kid who just recently started
> using Fedora 33 Workstation, both for fun, and hopefully, with guidance
> from you guys, for actual day to day school work.
>
> I have a little bit of experience using Linux. I started with Ubuntu 3 or
> so months ago, almost immediately switched to Arch, to Debian, and now, I’m
> trying Fedora.
>
> As you can see, I switched a lot, cause all those distroes, eccept arch,
> somewhat, weren’t the distroes that were right for me, that’s the beauty of
> Linux I guess.
>
> Well anyways, everything went smoothly once I booted the iso on my macbook
> air, I just had to switch to Zorg so I could get the Anaconda installer
> talking.
>
> I managed to activate all four rpm fusion repoes, some copr once, install
> snap and enable flatpak, and all the initial stuff without a single problem.
>
> Now though, there is one problem, that I don’t like at all: being both a
> speach and braille user, I use Orca as my screen reader with Gnome, and
> BRLTTY, which you might have heard of.
>
> Now, this question is mostly for blind users that might be in here, but of
> course, everyone who has experience with this sort of thing can answer.
>
> I had to enable the bRLTTY daemon with systemctl enable brltty as sudo
> user, and that went fine.
>
> Problem is, even though BRLTTY starts up as it is supposed too, my Focus
> 40 with which I’m using the thing with, shows me “screen not in text mode”,
> which, I guess, means that something’s wrong.
>

My experience with a blind user was decades ago, but at that time the
available software did not support graphical
screens.  From https://github.com/brltty/brltty:

"BRLTTY is a background process (daemon) providing access to the Linux/Unix
console (when in text mode) for a blind person using a refreshable braille
display."

You may be used to switching to a console using , but in
Fedora that gets you the GUI login like
 in other distros.  You can use  for a text
console.

I don’t know what though, and I can say that with the other distores it
> just worked out of the box.
>
> So my question is, has anyone experienced this problem? Does anyone know a
> solution to this, for me, huge deal? Using brltty 6.1, the one that comes
> inclooded with F33.
>
> Thank you all, and best regards,
>
> Francisco.
>


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Re: no middle click paste with F33

[Frederic Muller]

On 3/1/21 3:20 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote:

On 2/28/21 10:40 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
Just installed F33 on my laptop (fresh install, not an upgrade) and 
middle click no longer paste in any application (tried gedit, 
terminal mainly).


I install gnome tweaks and the option is enable. I disabled and 
re-enabled it (who knows...) and I even did a restart after all that 
(I heard this process tend to make things work under other operating 
systems).


I also search the web but didn't find anything special.

It used to work fine on my F32 version which was an upgrade from many 
Fedora version ago.


I haven't had any issues with middle-click paste on F33, but this 
isn't a clean install.  Have you checked in the mouse control panel to 
see if the middle click is working at all?

___
Indeed it's seems to be a hardware malfunction. After testing under xev 
I found out that I really need to super press to get sometimes some results.


As a side note I am really "mouse-doomed", my MX Master 2S broke 
yesterday and the mouse pointer no longer moves (all other buttons seem 
to work), while my "spare mouse" has a faulty middle click.


Thank you for the help.

Fred
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Re: Formatting second hard disk

[Chris Murphy]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2021 at 5:40 AM Paul Smith  wrote:
>
> Dear All,
>
> I have got a second hard disk on my desktop computer, which I would
> like to format. My machine runs Fedora 33, and I would like to ask you
> what format to adopt: the new Btrfs is advisable?
>
> Moreover, could you please direct me to some documentation on how to
> format the hard disk? Using GParted?

If you're already familiar with gparted, use that. Workstation edition
also comes with GNOME Disks, and KDE comes with Partition Manager,
which can also do this task.


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Re: no middle click paste with F33

[Samuel Sieb]

On 2/28/21 10:40 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
Just installed F33 on my laptop (fresh install, not an upgrade) and 
middle click no longer paste in any application (tried gedit, terminal 
mainly).


I install gnome tweaks and the option is enable. I disabled and 
re-enabled it (who knows...) and I even did a restart after all that (I 
heard this process tend to make things work under other operating systems).


I also search the web but didn't find anything special.

It used to work fine on my F32 version which was an upgrade from many 
Fedora version ago.


I haven't had any issues with middle-click paste on F33, but this isn't 
a clean install.  Have you checked in the mouse control panel to see if 
the middle click is working at all?

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Re: A little introduction, and some curiosities/questions

[Ed Greshko]

On 01/03/2021 15:49, Francisco Tissera wrote:


I don’t know what though, and I can say that with the other distores it just 
worked out of the box.

So my question is, has anyone experienced this problem? Does anyone know a 
solution to this, for me, huge deal? Using brltty 6.1, the one that comes 
inclooded with F33.



I don't know anything about brltty.  But, I did find this and wonder if it may 
have some helpful information

https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/8/html/using_the_desktop_environment_in_rhel_8/configuring-desktop-environment-for-accessibility_using-the-desktop-environment-in-rhel-8

Also, I don't often use Workstation/GNOME.  But I know somethings may not work 
as well running under
Wayland.  Have you tried logging into a GNOME Xorg session?

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