Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On Thu, 20 May 2021, Joe Zeff wrote: On 5/20/21 8:53 AM, josef radinger via users wrote: * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on white terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. Just to be clear, are you using Gnome or some other DE? Yes, Gnome is the default, but not everybody uses it and assuming that they do can cause considerable confusion. i'm using xfce, though it happens with gnome, too. the solution - as mathhew miller brought to my attention - is https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 or disabling "enable-bracketed-paste" by adding in ~/.inputrc the following line: set enable-bracketed-paste off josef ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: upgrading to fedora 34
On 21/05/2021 02:00, Ed Greshko wrote: On 21/05/2021 00:29, Angelo Moreschini wrote: this is the situation... : angelo_dev@pluto:~$ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 4020632 0 4020632 0% /dev tmpfs 4039784 21324 4018460 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 4039784 1876 4037908 1% /run /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 71724152 59738420 8299332 88% / tmpfs 4039784 108 4039676 1% /tmp /dev/sdb3 999320 233288 697220 26% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 131562500 23224776 101611684 19% /home /dev/sdb2 204580 20884 183696 11% /boot/efi tmpfs 807956 136 807820 1% /run/user/1000 /dev/sdc1 15622672 828656 14794016 6% /run/media/angelo_dev/F772-9C6B What can you suggest ? That looks fine. I did forget to ask a question. When you ran sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33 What was the output after that command finished? FWIW, I am upgrading an F32 VM to F33 and you should see Running transaction check Transaction check succeeded. Running transaction test Transaction test succeeded. Complete! Transaction saved to /var/lib/dnf/system-upgrade/system-upgrade-transaction.json. Download complete! Use 'dnf system-upgrade reboot' to start the upgrade. To remove cached metadata and transaction use 'dnf system-upgrade clean' The downloaded packages were saved in cache until the next successful transaction. You can remove cached packages by executing 'dnf clean packages'. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Video controller recommendations
I had a 10 year old nvidia and was able to stay using the older last supported nvidia driver (on recent kernels) that was still being built in rpm fusion and still supported the older cards, and still decode the 1080P/x264 with a massively slow Atom 330. Updates worked as well as new nvidia cards. I don't have that machine running anymore because the custom-laptop cpu fan died and getting a replacement was more than the old machine was worth. On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 11:41 AM Alex wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:36 AM Roger Heflin > wrote: > > > > You might have to buy a cheap throw away card.There are way too many > people going after the "good" mining cards right now. > > > > > https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gt-710-gt710-sl-2gd5-csm/p/N82E16814126211?Item=N82E16814126211 > > > > Is a basic card, it is $70+shipping Verify that the 4k support is good > enough for your monitor. The refresh rate may not be good enough it claims > to only do 30hz at full 4k on one of the ports > > > > The important things on the above card to look for are nvidia 710/730 > and GDDR5 that is I think the lowest card that does 4k but only at 30hz, > and that card sucks for mining I believe so is still in stock. > > I really wanted to avoid nvidia and the proprietary drivers issue, > especially considering I kept my current card for more than ten years, > lol. > > I ended up purchasing the AMD Radeon RX580 with 8GB. It's this card, > but I found it new on eBay for less than $300. > https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RX-580-8G-OC/dp/B06XZQMMHJ > > I was also considering the RX570 because it had four DisplayPort > adapters and the RX580 has only two, but this card was virtually the > same price and includes 8GB. > > Hoping I made a wise choice... > > Thanks, > Alex > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:02:57PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 5/20/21 3:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > >>This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice > >>https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 > >Glad to see it's not just me who hates this highlighting. > > Status: CLOSED NOTABUG It's literally a readline feature, not a bug, so that's appropriate. However, I do think we could have some documentation explaining it. -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On 21/05/2021 05:54, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 11:47 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:53:12PM +0200, josef radinger via users wrote: i have two problems after upgrading to fedora34: * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on white terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 Glad to see it's not just me who hates this highlighting. +1 I was learning to live with it since I was too lazy to research the annoyance. I also appreciate the link supplied by josef. Not something I think about often. I mean Readline, not appreciation for others who supply useful information. :-) -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On 5/20/21 3:54 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 Glad to see it's not just me who hates this highlighting. Status: CLOSED NOTABUG ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Video controller recommendations
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 12:40 -0400, Alex wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:36 AM Roger Heflin > wrote: > > > > You might have to buy a cheap throw away card. There are way too > > many people going after the "good" mining cards right now. > > > > https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gt-710-gt710-sl-2gd5-csm/p/N82E16814126211?Item=N82E16814126211 > > > > Is a basic card, it is $70+shipping Verify that the 4k support is > > good enough for your monitor. The refresh rate may not be good > > enough it claims to only do 30hz at full 4k on one of the ports > > > > The important things on the above card to look for are nvidia > > 710/730 and GDDR5 that is I think the lowest card that does 4k but > > only at 30hz, and that card sucks for mining I believe so is still > > in stock. > > I really wanted to avoid nvidia and the proprietary drivers issue, > especially considering I kept my current card for more than ten > years, > lol. > > I ended up purchasing the AMD Radeon RX580 with 8GB. It's this card, > but I found it new on eBay for less than $300. > https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RX-580-8G-OC/dp/B06XZQMMHJ > > I was also considering the RX570 because it had four DisplayPort > adapters and the RX580 has only two, but this card was virtually the > same price and includes 8GB. > > Hoping I made a wise choice... AFAIK the 8GB is really only relevant for gaming. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 11:47 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:53:12PM +0200, josef radinger via users > wrote: > > i have two problems after upgrading to fedora34: > > * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with > > reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on > > white > > terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that > > part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text > > was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same > > as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. > > This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 Glad to see it's not just me who hates this highlighting. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 11:47 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:53:12PM +0200, josef radinger via users > wrote: > > i have two problems after upgrading to fedora34: > > * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with > > reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on white > > terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that > > part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text > > was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same > > as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. > > This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 > > thanks to sum that up: this new feature can be switched off via editing ~/.inputrc one needs to add "set enable-bracketed-paste off" https://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/html_node/Readline-Init-File-Syntax.html#Readline-Init-File-Syntax this might have unwanted side-effects, so please read the docs and decide yourself. yours josef ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: GDM failed to start
It turns out the problem is with the radeon driver. The GDM can be started normally once amdgpu is used instead of radeon $ cat /proc/cmdline BOOT_IMAGE=(hd0,gpt3)/ostree/fedora-b84e4d88fe04fad4bc33b6ea17b973b4c73cd56c60843527323ed31290b71b6c/vmlinuz-5.11.20-300.fc34.x86_64 root=UUID=6d7c04a4-98c4-4438-96f8-b3fcd570c27a rootflags=subvol=root35b ostree=/ostree/boot.0/fedora/b84e4d88fe04fad4bc33b6ea17b973b4c73cd56c60843527323ed31290b71b6c/0 radeon.cik_support=0 amdgpu.cik_support=1 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd Device d000 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 46, IOMMU group 0 Memory at c000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M] Memory at d000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=8M] I/O ports at f000 [size=256] Memory at feb0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256K] Expansion ROM at 000c [disabled] [size=128K] Capabilities: [48] Vendor Specific Information: Len=08 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3 Capabilities: [58] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00 Capabilities: [a0] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+ Capabilities: [100] Vendor Specific Information: ID=0001 Rev=1 Len=010 Capabilities: [270] Secondary PCI Express Capabilities: [2b0] Address Translation Service (ATS) Capabilities: [2c0] Page Request Interface (PRI) Capabilities: [2d0] Process Address Space ID (PASID) Kernel driver in use: amdgpu Kernel modules: radeon, amdgpu ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Honest Questions -- Trying to decide on version of linux/os
Thanks for all the comments! A number of things to consider. An additional question? Are there any resources/services/people you might know of who do remote sys admin stuff for the small dev/project operation? Thanks On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 12:21 PM Gordon Messmer wrote: > > On 5/20/21 3:18 AM, Tim via users wrote: > > 1. Me, who has a webserver, mailserver, whatever, and wants it to keep > > on running without having to continually tinker with it manually. A > > well managed rolling-release system may succeed there. > > > Cool, but neither Fedora nor CentOS Stream are rolling releases, so > there's no reason to worry about this with any of the systems in discussion. > > > > 2. Others who write code need to have predictable behaviour out of > > their systems, it's hard to write code when the goalposts keep > > changing. If coding is your job, you may well jump to another distro > > that's more reliable. > > > The API/ABI policy is the same for CentOS Stream as it is for the > corresponding RHEL release, so the goalposts aren't going to move any > more on CentOS Stream than they do on RHEL (or on CentOS today). > > On Fedora, of course, the goalposts may shift at roughly 6 month intervals. > > > > I use CentOS on a server, here, because Fedora's rapid changes are too > > disruptive (to me) but Fedora is tolerable on a workstation. I stuck > > at CentOS 7 because of what I read about 8, first triggered off when I > > read the end-of-life dates for both systems. I'll probably be > > replacing the hardware when 7 goes end of life. > > > I don't know what you've read about CentOS Stream, but the vast majority > of what I've read from sources outside Red Hat have been pure FUD. An > awful lot of people have entirely the wrong idea about what's happening. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: upgrading to fedora 34
On 21/05/2021 00:29, Angelo Moreschini wrote: this is the situation... : angelo_dev@pluto:~$ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 4020632 0 4020632 0% /dev tmpfs 4039784 21324 4018460 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 4039784 1876 4037908 1% /run /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 71724152 59738420 8299332 88% / tmpfs 4039784 108 4039676 1% /tmp /dev/sdb3 999320 233288 697220 26% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 131562500 23224776 101611684 19% /home /dev/sdb2 204580 20884 183696 11% /boot/efi tmpfs 807956 136 807820 1% /run/user/1000 /dev/sdc1 15622672 828656 14794016 6% /run/media/angelo_dev/F772-9C6B What can you suggest ? That looks fine. I did forget to ask a question. When you ran sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33 What was the output after that command finished? -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Video controller recommendations
Hi, On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 11:36 AM Roger Heflin wrote: > > You might have to buy a cheap throw away card.There are way too many > people going after the "good" mining cards right now. > > https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-gt-710-gt710-sl-2gd5-csm/p/N82E16814126211?Item=N82E16814126211 > > Is a basic card, it is $70+shipping Verify that the 4k support is good > enough for your monitor. The refresh rate may not be good enough it claims > to only do 30hz at full 4k on one of the ports > > The important things on the above card to look for are nvidia 710/730 and > GDDR5 that is I think the lowest card that does 4k but only at 30hz, and that > card sucks for mining I believe so is still in stock. I really wanted to avoid nvidia and the proprietary drivers issue, especially considering I kept my current card for more than ten years, lol. I ended up purchasing the AMD Radeon RX580 with 8GB. It's this card, but I found it new on eBay for less than $300. https://www.amazon.com/MSI-RX-580-8G-OC/dp/B06XZQMMHJ I was also considering the RX570 because it had four DisplayPort adapters and the RX580 has only two, but this card was virtually the same price and includes 8GB. Hoping I made a wise choice... Thanks, Alex ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: upgrading to fedora 34
this is the situation... : angelo_dev@pluto:~$ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on devtmpfs 40206320 4020632 0% /dev tmpfs 403978421324 4018460 1% /dev/shm tmpfs 4039784 1876 4037908 1% /run /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-root 71724152 59738420 8299332 88% / tmpfs 4039784 108 4039676 1% /tmp /dev/sdb3 999320 233288697220 26% /boot /dev/mapper/fedora_localhost--live-home 131562500 23224776 101611684 19% /home /dev/sdb2 20458020884183696 11% /boot/efi tmpfs 807956 136807820 1% /run/user/1000 /dev/sdc115622672 828656 14794016 6% /run/media/angelo_dev/F772-9C6B What can you suggest ? On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 4:56 PM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 20/05/2021 21:49, Angelo Moreschini wrote: > > thank you very much Ed, > > > > I made the manual procedure.., > > (using the shutdown -r now -to reboot after sudo dnf system-upgrade > download --releasever=33 ) > > > > but after I give the last command : > > I got the error message : : > > \Error: system is not ready for upgrade > > > > > > :-( > > > > I remember that I renounced to upgrade to Fedora 33 > > because I had already this problem > > > > ... > > what it is possible to do ?? > > Oh, so you've seen this error before? > > The error message is seems rather vague. Is there anything in the journal > that may shed > some light? > > How about your current disk space? > > -- > Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Honest Questions -- Trying to decide on version of linux/os
On 5/20/21 3:18 AM, Tim via users wrote: 1. Me, who has a webserver, mailserver, whatever, and wants it to keep on running without having to continually tinker with it manually. A well managed rolling-release system may succeed there. Cool, but neither Fedora nor CentOS Stream are rolling releases, so there's no reason to worry about this with any of the systems in discussion. 2. Others who write code need to have predictable behaviour out of their systems, it's hard to write code when the goalposts keep changing. If coding is your job, you may well jump to another distro that's more reliable. The API/ABI policy is the same for CentOS Stream as it is for the corresponding RHEL release, so the goalposts aren't going to move any more on CentOS Stream than they do on RHEL (or on CentOS today). On Fedora, of course, the goalposts may shift at roughly 6 month intervals. I use CentOS on a server, here, because Fedora's rapid changes are too disruptive (to me) but Fedora is tolerable on a workstation. I stuck at CentOS 7 because of what I read about 8, first triggered off when I read the end-of-life dates for both systems. I'll probably be replacing the hardware when 7 goes end of life. I don't know what you've read about CentOS Stream, but the vast majority of what I've read from sources outside Red Hat have been pure FUD. An awful lot of people have entirely the wrong idea about what's happening. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On 5/20/21 8:53 AM, josef radinger via users wrote: * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on white terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. Just to be clear, are you using Gnome or some other DE? Yes, Gnome is the default, but not everybody uses it and assuming that they do can cause considerable confusion. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: questions after upgrade to fedora34
On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 04:53:12PM +0200, josef radinger via users wrote: > i have two problems after upgrading to fedora34: > * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with > reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on white > terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that > part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text > was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same > as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. This is a new readline feature. You are not the only to notice https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1954366 -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
[389-users] Re: IRC server change
On 20/05/2021 16:27, Mark Reynolds wrote: Same as #freeipa has done, we have also moved off of freenode and on to libera: irc://irc.libera.chat/389 Sooner than later we will shutdown the freenode channel #389 ... I am making this move also, although I need to wait for Tor support. ___ 389-users mailing list -- 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to 389-users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
questions after upgrade to fedora34
hi i have two problems after upgrading to fedora34: * copy/paste in xterm/terminator now paints the copied text with reversed colors. in fedora 33 it was clear that in my black on white terminal marked text is colored white with black background. that part works the same in f34. pasting is different now. pasted text was colored like typed text, in fedora34 it is now colored the same as marked text. quite annoying, at least for me. * i have two accounts (usera and userb). normaly i use usera and this is my main account which i use to log into fedora. userb is just used for "jailing" firefox away from my normal user. works in fedora 34, but i no longer have sound from that firefox. i think the reason might be pipewire. is pipewire capable to send one users sounds to another users devices on the same machine? any suggestions anyone? thanks josef ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
[389-users] IRC server change
Same as #freeipa has done, we have also moved off of freenode and on to libera: irc://irc.libera.chat/389 Sooner than later we will shutdown the freenode channel #389 ... Thanks, Mark Forwarded Message Subject:[Freeipa-users] IRC server change Date: Wed, 19 May 2021 16:39:52 -0400 From: Rob Crittenden via FreeIPA-users Reply-To: FreeIPA users list To: FreeIPA users list CC: Rob Crittenden Due to the changes at freenode [1], the freeIPA IRC channel is transitioning to the libera.chat IRC server with the same channel name: irc://irc.libera.chat/freeipa There is currently no hard cut-off date but its likely to be sooner than later. rob [1] https://www.kline.sh/ ___ FreeIPA-users mailing list -- freeipa-us...@lists.fedorahosted.org To unsubscribe send an email to freeipa-users-le...@lists.fedorahosted.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedorahosted.org/archives/list/freeipa-us...@lists.fedorahosted.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ 389-users mailing list -- 389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to 389-users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/389-users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
On 20/05/2021 22:19, Anca, Tibor wrote: Hello, Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 21:46 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: But, is the above with or without the /etc/hosts entry? I just checked, it is with added entry, with established VPN-Connection. How about with the entry removed? -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
On Thu, 2021-05-20 at 12:59 +, Anca, Tibor wrote: > Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 19:33 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: > > Does > > > > host host.name.de 192.168.3.33 > > > > Return the IP address you expect? > Yes. But it also returns: > > Host xyz not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) Are you trying to use just the hostname without the fully qualified domain name? systemd resolved won't modify the nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf. It uses different name servers based on the interface. It won't query your VPN name servers if you only specify a hostname. It will only use your VPN name servers if you specify a domain name that matches the domain names of your VPN. This article gives a good overview of how it works, including on vpns. https://fedoramagazine.org/systemd-resolved-introduction-to-split-dns/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
Hello, Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 21:46 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: > > But, is the above with or without the /etc/hosts entry? I just checked, it is with added entry, with established VPN-Connection. -- Dr. Tibor Attila Anca Pastor Ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Dollbergen-Schwüblingsen Fuhsestr. 19, 31311 Uetze OT Dollbergen Gemeindebüro Telefon: +49 (0)5177 922144 Gemeindebüro Telefax: +49 (0)5177 922145 Direkter Kontakt: Telefon: +49 (0)5132 5045860 Telefax: +49 (0)5132 5045861 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: upgrading to fedora 34
On 20/05/2021 21:49, Angelo Moreschini wrote: thank you very much Ed, I made the manual procedure.., (using the shutdown -r now -to reboot after sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33 ) but after I give the last command : I got the error message : : \Error: system is not ready for upgrade :-( I remember that I renounced to upgrade to Fedora 33 because I had already this problem ... what it is possible to do ?? Oh, so you've seen this error before? The error message is seems rather vague. Is there anything in the journal that may shed some light? How about your current disk space? -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: upgrading to fedora 34
thank you very much Ed, I made the manual procedure.., (using the shutdown -r now -to reboot after sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=33 ) but after I give the last command : I got the error message : : \Error: system is not ready for upgrade :-( I remember that I renounced to upgrade to Fedora 33 because I had already this problem ... what it is possible to do ?? thank you Angelo On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 8:59 AM Ed Greshko wrote: > On 20/05/2021 13:36, Angelo Moreschini wrote: > > thank you Andras, > > > > The answer is : > > _**_ > > > > seems the upgrading didn't work ... > > -- > > I used automatic upgrading for get Fedora 30, 31 and Fedora 32.. , > > In these cas I simply pushed the , that is > down the label > > ... > > --- > > For upgrading to Fedora 34 that is no good (why ?). > > > > Can you suggest to me how I can better control the automatic process (to > upgrading) ?? > > Are you using the Workstation edition of Fedora? And, if so, are you using > the GUI of Gnome > to perform the upgrade? > > I don't use that method since I prefer to watch as much of the process as > possible. > You may also wish to go from F32 to F33 first. > > What I would do you your case is the following. > > From a terminal session. > > sudo dnf update (to make sure your current system is fully updated) > sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade (just to make sure you have > the plug-in installed) > > if packages have been updated, then reboot just to make sure changes have > taken > effect. > > Then, again from the terminal. > > sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=34 (or 33 if you want to do > it in increments) > > when complete > > sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot > > The system will boot and show the F32 kernel to start with but the upgrade > process should begin. > > Consult > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ if a > package issue is > preventing the upgrade from proceeding without additional parameters being > added to the upgrade > command. A common problem is an issue with a non-fedora repo/package. > > > -- > Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
On 20/05/2021 20:59, Anca, Tibor wrote: Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 19:33 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: Does host host.name.de 192.168.3.33 Return the IP address you expect? Yes. But it also returns: Host xyz not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) One of my problems is I can't find a way to give sound advice when the actual information is obfuscated. But, is the above with or without the /etc/hosts entry? -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 19:33 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: > Does > > host host.name.de 192.168.3.33 > > Return the IP address you expect? Yes. But it also returns: Host xyz not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
On 20/05/2021 19:27, Anca, Tibor wrote: Hi, Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 19:14 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: How are you specifying the hostname you want to reach on the remote side? If you are just using "Aname" then when the request is sent to 192.168.3.33 it will become a request for an A (or ) record for "Aname.vpn.domain.de" I mus admit, I don't really get it... If you the actual FQDN is different than that you'd need to spell it out or add the additional "Search Domain" under the IPv4 Tab in the openconnect configuration of NM. You can always use the "host" command to test/try different combination and direct the request only to that one DNS server. host Aname 192.168.3.33 for example I added a few days ago in /etc/hosts a line: ip.add.re.ss host.name.de By doing this Firefox finds the target website, even if I only use the url. Without this entry I must specify the ip of the website. The difference is: anyconnect populates the nameservers, openconnect doesn't. Does host host.name.de 192.168.3.33 Return the IP address you expect? -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
Am Mittwoch, dem 19.05.2021 um 21:24 -0400 schrieb Kevin Becker: > > > > Is the search domain that is added to resolv.conf the correct domain > for your work that you are trying to access? Yes, it is the same which is added by AnyConnect. > I have two domains at my workplace and only one of them gets pushed > out by the VPN DHCP service so in order to resolve anything in the > other domain I have to add it myself. I use nm-connection-editor to > modify the IPV4 settings for my VPN adapter to add both desired search > domains. Systemd-resolved has per-adapter DNS servers and will only > query the VPN DNS servers for domains that are specified in the search > domain for that adapter. > I already tried to make those modifications in the connection editor (DNS). However, as soon as I commented out the entry in /etc/hosts (ip url), those changes were useless. Still got from Firefox: Not found. Regards Tibor -- Dr. Tibor Attila Anca Pastor Ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Dollbergen-Schwüblingsen Fuhsestr. 19, 31311 Uetze OT Dollbergen Gemeindebüro Telefon: +49 (0)5177 922144 Gemeindebüro Telefax: +49 (0)5177 922145 Direkter Kontakt: Telefon: +49 (0)5132 5045860 Telefax: +49 (0)5132 5045861 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
Hi, Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 19:14 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: > How are you specifying the hostname you want to reach on the remote > side? > > If you are just using "Aname" then when the request is sent to > 192.168.3.33 it will become > a request for an A (or ) record for "Aname.vpn.domain.de" I mus admit, I don't really get it... > If you the actual FQDN is different than that you'd need to spell it > out or add the additional > "Search Domain" under the IPv4 Tab in the openconnect configuration of > NM. > > You can always use the "host" command to test/try different > combination and direct the > request only to that one DNS server. > > host Aname 192.168.3.33 for example > I added a few days ago in /etc/hosts a line: ip.add.re.ss host.name.de By doing this Firefox finds the target website, even if I only use the url. Without this entry I must specify the ip of the website. The difference is: anyconnect populates the nameservers, openconnect doesn't. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
Hi, Am Mittwoch, dem 19.05.2021 um 20:10 -0400 schrieb John Mellor: > A good VPN does this on purpose - adding ip addresses to what is on > the > corporate network is a very bad thing from a security standpoint. If > you can do that, your admin guys should probably block you. Yes, you > like your local printer, but is it secure like the one at work? And > how > about the fileserver under your desk? Is it also regularly scanned > and > thought to be secure just makes a mockery of the corporate security. > Just don't. I work totally decentral, in fact I have three offices, which are officially recognized by my employer as designated offices. Those network printers are located in these offices, so I would like to use the local network printers in my official offices. Now, the VPN-Servers are located in a different city. There is only one service, for what I need VPN. I could disable the connection, of course, but that is annoying. I still suffer from previous experiences, when we only had CheckPoint client ONLY FOR WINDOWS... Concerning the fileserver under my desk: there is none. There is a LUKS partitioned disk ON my desk, used by rsync twice a day for backups. Regards Tibor -- Dr. Tibor Attila Anca Pastor Ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Dollbergen-Schwüblingsen Fuhsestr. 19, 31311 Uetze OT Dollbergen Gemeindebüro Telefon: +49 (0)5177 922144 Gemeindebüro Telefax: +49 (0)5177 922145 Direkter Kontakt: Telefon: +49 (0)5132 5045860 Telefax: +49 (0)5132 5045861 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
On 20/05/2021 18:49, Anca, Tibor wrote: Link 5 (vpn0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Current DNS Server: 192.168.3.33 DNS Servers: 192.168.3.33 192.168.3.133 DNS Domain: vpn.domain.de And yes, systemd-resolved is running, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink. What do you read out of these outputs? How are you specifying the hostname you want to reach on the remote side? If you are just using "Aname" then when the request is sent to 192.168.3.33 it will become a request for an A (or ) record for "Aname.vpn.domain.de" If you the actual FQDN is different than that you'd need to spell it out or add the additional "Search Domain" under the IPv4 Tab in the openconnect configuration of NM. You can always use the "host" command to test/try different combination and direct the request only to that one DNS server. host Aname 192.168.3.33 for example -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Strange VPN behaviour
Hello, Am Donnerstag, dem 20.05.2021 um 08:46 +0800 schrieb Ed Greshko: > > disconnected My output on disconnected is: Global Protocols: LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported resolv.conf mode: stub Link 2 (enp2s0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: +DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Current DNS Server: 192.168.178.1 DNS Servers: 192.168.178.1 DNS Domain: fritz.box Link 3 (wlp4s0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: +DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Current DNS Server: 192.168.178.1 DNS Servers: fd00::e228:6dff:fec6:b89a 192.168.178.1 DNS Domain: fritz.box Link 4 (virbr0) Current Scopes: none Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Link 5 (vpn0) Current Scopes: none Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported DNS Servers: 192.168.3.133 > connected When connected: Global Protocols: LLMNR=resolve -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported resolv.conf mode: stub Link 2 (enp2s0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: +DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Current DNS Server: 192.168.178.1 DNS Servers: 192.168.178.1 DNS Domain: fritz.box Link 3 (wlp4s0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: +DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Current DNS Server: 192.168.178.1 DNS Servers: fd00::e228:6dff:fec6:b89a 192.168.178.1 DNS Domain: fritz.box Link 4 (virbr0) Current Scopes: none Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Link 5 (vpn0) Current Scopes: DNS LLMNR/IPv4 LLMNR/IPv6 Protocols: -DefaultRoute +LLMNR -mDNS -DNSOverTLS DNSSEC=no/unsupported Current DNS Server: 192.168.3.33 DNS Servers: 192.168.3.33 192.168.3.133 DNS Domain: vpn.domain.de And yes, systemd-resolved is running, /etc/resolv.conf is a symlink. What do you read out of these outputs? Regards Tibor -- Dr. Tibor Attila Anca Pastor Ev.-luth. Kirchengemeinde Dollbergen-Schwüblingsen Fuhsestr. 19, 31311 Uetze OT Dollbergen Gemeindebüro Telefon: +49 (0)5177 922144 Gemeindebüro Telefax: +49 (0)5177 922145 Direkter Kontakt: Telefon: +49 (0)5132 5045860 Telefax: +49 (0)5132 5045861 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Honest Questions -- Trying to decide on version of linux/os
On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 18:38 -0500, Ian Pilcher wrote: > So it's not stability in the sense of stuff being broken; it's > stability in the sense of stuff being disruptive. I can see three major aspects to that: 1. Me, who has a webserver, mailserver, whatever, and wants it to keep on running without having to continually tinker with it manually. A well managed rolling-release system may succeed there. But speaking as a person who gave up doing updates on updates years ago, now always does fresh installs, as it removes detritus that accumulates over the years, I forsee that a rolling-release system will accumulate cruft that causes problems over the years. 2. Others who write code need to have predictable behaviour out of their systems, it's hard to write code when the goalposts keep changing. If coding is your job, you may well jump to another distro that's more reliable. 3. Those who need a trustworthy system running in their office, business, lab, whatever, may only use systems that they can vet adequately. A changing system is inherently unvetted, and may not allow such systems to be used. I use CentOS on a server, here, because Fedora's rapid changes are too disruptive (to me) but Fedora is tolerable on a workstation. I stuck at CentOS 7 because of what I read about 8, first triggered off when I read the end-of-life dates for both systems. I'll probably be replacing the hardware when 7 goes end of life. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.25.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Apr 28 21:49:45 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Honest Questions -- Trying to decide on version of linux/os
On Wed, 2021-05-19 at 11:24 -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote: > They didn't drop releases entirely, just minor releases. And that's > good, because minor releases in CentOS were a bug. They did not > improve reliability the way that minor releases improve RHEL > reliability. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tf_EkU3x2G0 Arrghhh, someone narrating their power point presentation. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.25.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Apr 28 21:49:45 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: upgrading to fedora 34
On 20/05/2021 13:36, Angelo Moreschini wrote: thank you Andras, The answer is : _**_ seems the upgrading didn't work ... -- I used automatic upgrading for get Fedora 30, 31 and Fedora 32.. , In these cas I simply pushed the , that is down the label ... --- For upgrading to Fedora 34 that is no good (why ?). Can you suggest to me how I can better control the automatic process (to upgrading) ?? Are you using the Workstation edition of Fedora? And, if so, are you using the GUI of Gnome to perform the upgrade? I don't use that method since I prefer to watch as much of the process as possible. You may also wish to go from F32 to F33 first. What I would do you your case is the following. From a terminal session. sudo dnf update (to make sure your current system is fully updated) sudo dnf install dnf-plugin-system-upgrade (just to make sure you have the plug-in installed) if packages have been updated, then reboot just to make sure changes have taken effect. Then, again from the terminal. sudo dnf system-upgrade download --releasever=34 (or 33 if you want to do it in increments) when complete sudo dnf system-upgrade reboot The system will boot and show the F32 kernel to start with but the upgrade process should begin. Consult https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/dnf-system-upgrade/ if a package issue is preventing the upgrade from proceeding without additional parameters being added to the upgrade command. A common problem is an issue with a non-fedora repo/package. -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
