Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)
On Sat, 2021-06-12 at 11:59 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > It's High Dynamic Range, its a methodology for improving the colour > range, brightness range and detail. I think it is the video > equivalent of HDR for photography. With photography, it's generally the combination of two photos one where the exposure is made to favour dark end of the scale, the other where the exposure is made to favour the bright end of the scale, and they're combined together, giving you an image that doesn't have blown out highlights and crushed blacks. With video it could simply be that there's more individual steps between black and full white (mimicing the above photography technique), but often it's engineered to simply add brighter and brighter steps above the original video range. Which seems to be how my bluray player and TV make use of it. You see that on TV sets where they can be used in full daylight, and you can almost feel the picture across the room. By the time you've turned the contrast down to acceptable levels to watch a movie or tv show, there isn't much advantage in the scheme, the way of lot of things are filmed. And they really do need to be produced with HDR in mind, if they're to take proper advantage of it (i.e. every shot is not exposed for full contrast, only really bright objects should hit peak intensity). A lot of the more recent British TV programs are often filmed that way, the ones trying for a cinematic look. Any scene that's not supposed to be a bright summer's day is often only half contrast. With computing, not only would you need to tell the graphic system to work in that mode, you'd also need programs with the ability (e.g. your media player, and other programs that display things). -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.25.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Apr 28 21:49:45 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)
On 2021-06-11 6:46 p.m., Stephen Morris wrote: Below are the modelines that I had to add into the config over and above what xrandr provided as the supported resolutions, coincidentally the supported resolutions that xrandr displayed also happened to match the resolutions that Wayland uses (I've forgotten the name of the Wayland location I would have to look it up on the net again. As a side issue, when I was looking for info on how to get KDE to auto-scale like Gnome does, I found a bug report that someone raised for scaling issues in F34 and I thought they were saying that the Wayland support in KDE was not stable, is that still the case?): # 3840x2160 59.98 Hz (CVT 8.29M9) hsync: 134.18 kHz; pclk: 712.75 MHz Modeline "3840x2160_60.00" 712.75 3840 4160 4576 5312 2160 2163 2168 2237 -hsync +vsync # 3840x2075 59.99 Hz (CVT) hsync: 128.92 kHz; pclk: 682.75 MHz Modeline "3840x2075_60.00" 682.75 3840 4152 4568 5296 2075 2078 2088 2149 -hsync +vsync # 3840x2071 59.99 Hz (CVT) hsync: 128.68 kHz; pclk: 681.50 MHz Modeline "3840x2071_60.00" 681.50 3840 4152 4568 5296 2071 2074 2084 2145 -hsync +vsync # 3840x2069 59.98 Hz (CVT) hsync: 128.54 kHz; pclk: 680.75 MHz Modeline "3840x2069_60.00" 680.75 3840 4152 4568 5296 2069 2072 2082 2143 -hsync +vsync I use kvm for my VMs and this is what I get with a default workstation install. I'm using the virtio display option in qemu. I've attached a screenshot of the default list of resolutions that Gnome has. I don't have a 4K display, but all the standard resolutions are included anyway. I can pick the display size and the VM resizes, with scrollbars if necessary. But if I turn on the "auto-resize VM with window" option, then whenever I resize the VM window or go full-screen, Gnome will switch to the resolution to fit it exactly without scrollbars. This works for both the virtio and QXL display options, but not VGA. So the problem is just with vmware and virtualbox not properly communicating the screen size changes to the VM. Default window size: # monitor-get-edid | monitor-parse-edid Name: QEMU Monitor EISA ID: RHT1234 EDID version: 1.4 EDID extension blocks: 1 Screen size: 26.0 cm x 19.5 cm (12.80 inches, aspect ratio 4/3 = 1.33) Gamma: 2.2 Digital signal Max video bandwidth: 1200 MHz HorizSync 30-160 VertRefresh 50-125 # Monitor preferred modeline (75.0 Hz vsync, 59.5 kHz hsync, ratio 4/3, 100 dpi) ModeLine "1024x768" 82.29 1024 1280 1310 1382 768 771 774 794 -hsync -vsync # Monitor supported CEA modeline (50.0 Hz vsync, 56.2 kHz hsync, ratio 16/9, 187x140 dpi) (bad ratio) ModeLine "1920x1080" 148.5 1920 2448 2492 2640 1080 1084 1089 1125 +hsync +vsync Maximized window: # Monitor preferred modeline (75.0 Hz vsync, 82.4 kHz hsync, ratio 1.81, 101 dpi) ModeLine "1920x1062" 213.64 1920 2400 2457 2592 1062 1067 1072 1099 -hsync -vsync Fullscreen: # Monitor preferred modeline (75.0 Hz vsync, 93.1 kHz hsync, ratio 16/10, 101 dpi) ModeLine "1920x1200" 241.44 1920 2400 2457 2592 1200 1206 1212 1242 -hsync -vsync ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Long wait for start job
On 6/11/21 8:16 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: The boot is interrupted for a longtime (2 minutes) while a start job runs for wait for udev to complete initialization. The timeout is three minutes and it almost reaches that point before continuing. Run systemd-analyze blame and take a look at the first items listed. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Long wait for start job
Just did a new installation of the basic fedora 34 desktop the one which provides a bunch of basic window managers using a netinstall iso. The boot is interrupted for a longtime (2 minutes) while a start job runs for wait for udev to complete initialization. The timeout is three minutes and it almost reaches that point before continuing. I have looked through the syslogs but the only obvious problem is a core dump by alsa control which I don't understand because prior to this running Fedora 33 nothing similar happened. Need some advice on how to debug this. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)
On 11/6/21 21:48, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2021-06-11 at 20:08 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: I don't know whether its a design of the monitor, but under windows, windows does not provide HDR capability natively, I have to install a monitor specific driver supplied by the vendor, which unfortunately they don't supply for linux. What do you mean by HDR? High Display Resolutions, High Dynamic Range? For what it's worth, most manufacturers don't supply any drivers for the hardware that Linux runs. Other people have figured them out. It's High Dynamic Range, its a methodology for improving the colour range, brightness range and detail. I think it is the video equivalent of HDR for photography. Windows would not say the Monitor was HDR compatible and hence provide configuring of it in its monitor settings until I installed the BENQ driver for this monitor. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)
On 11/6/21 20:25, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/06/2021 18:08, Stephen Morris wrote: My issue with the system settings under both gnome and kde, is I am using a 4K monitor and the system settings don't offer a 4K resolution, even if the vm is running fullscreen, and also neither does xrandr specify that a 4K resolution is available. The system settings only show that a 4K resolution is accessible when I put in the relevant modeline. The system settings also only show a resolution of 3840x2075 which is the maximum resolution under gnome if I run the vm windowed, or 3840x2069 which is the same maximum resolution under KDE (I'm not sure yet why there is this difference), if I put in modelines. Are you running KDE and GNOME from the same VM image? Meaning you're running KDE with gdm? I'm running KDE and GNOME from the same vm image and using logout, restart or cold start to switch between the two. I'm using vmware player at the moment, but I also had the same issues when running under virtualbox. I was using virtualbox because it supports UEFI whereas vmware player doesn't, but I stopped using it a while ago when an antivirus program broke the virtualbox program because it removed what it considered to be malware. Sometimes the below works, and sometimes it doesn't. With nVidia drivers it fails, with nouveau it works. It looks like it doesn't work for me with the vmware driver, I get the following issues: [root@localhost ~]# sudo su - [root@localhost ~]# monitor-get-edid mmap /dev/mem: Permission denied I tried putting an acl on /dev/mem to give myself rwx access but that made no difference to the above issue. Below are the modelines that I had to add into the config over and above what xrandr provided as the supported resolutions, coincidentally the supported resolutions that xrandr displayed also happened to match the resolutions that Wayland uses (I've forgotten the name of the Wayland location I would have to look it up on the net again. As a side issue, when I was looking for info on how to get KDE to auto-scale like Gnome does, I found a bug report that someone raised for scaling issues in F34 and I thought they were saying that the Wayland support in KDE was not stable, is that still the case?): # 3840x2160 59.98 Hz (CVT 8.29M9) hsync: 134.18 kHz; pclk: 712.75 MHz Modeline "3840x2160_60.00" 712.75 3840 4160 4576 5312 2160 2163 2168 2237 -hsync +vsync # 3840x2075 59.99 Hz (CVT) hsync: 128.92 kHz; pclk: 682.75 MHz Modeline "3840x2075_60.00" 682.75 3840 4152 4568 5296 2075 2078 2088 2149 -hsync +vsync # 3840x2071 59.99 Hz (CVT) hsync: 128.68 kHz; pclk: 681.50 MHz Modeline "3840x2071_60.00" 681.50 3840 4152 4568 5296 2071 2074 2084 2145 -hsync +vsync # 3840x2069 59.98 Hz (CVT) hsync: 128.54 kHz; pclk: 680.75 MHz Modeline "3840x2069_60.00" 680.75 3840 4152 4568 5296 2069 2072 2082 2143 -hsync +vsync The 3840x2075 is the resolution that Gnome auto-scales to when I have the vm window maximised to 4K. The 3840x2160 is the 4K resolution I need for Xorg to scale to 4K when I am running the vm fullscreen. The 3840x2071 was the modeline I was playing around with the get KDE to scale to the maximum window size without the horizontal and vertical scroll bars and 3480x2069 is maximum resolution I could get KDE to scale to without producing the scrollbars, and as I said earlier, I don't know why KDE doesn't work without scrollbars at the 3840x2071 resolution that Gnome works with. regards, Steve Can you install monitor-edid. Then do something like I've done on laptop. [root@acer ~]# monitor-get-edid | monitor-parse-edid EISA ID: CMO1552 EDID version: 1.3 EDID extension blocks: 0 Screen size: 33.1 cm x 20.7 cm (15.37 inches, aspect ratio 16/10 = 1.60) Gamma: 2.2 Digital signal # Monitor preferred modeline (59.9 Hz vsync, 49.3 kHz hsync, ratio 16/10, 98 dpi) ModeLine "1280x800" 71 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)
On Fri, 2021-06-11 at 20:08 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: > I don't know whether its a design of the monitor, but under windows, > windows does not provide HDR capability natively, I have to install > a monitor specific driver supplied by the vendor, which unfortunately > they don't supply for linux. What do you mean by HDR? High Display Resolutions, High Dynamic Range? For what it's worth, most manufacturers don't supply any drivers for the hardware that Linux runs. Other people have figured them out. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.25.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Apr 28 21:49:45 UTC 2021 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)
On 11/06/2021 18:08, Stephen Morris wrote: My issue with the system settings under both gnome and kde, is I am using a 4K monitor and the system settings don't offer a 4K resolution, even if the vm is running fullscreen, and also neither does xrandr specify that a 4K resolution is available. The system settings only show that a 4K resolution is accessible when I put in the relevant modeline. The system settings also only show a resolution of 3840x2075 which is the maximum resolution under gnome if I run the vm windowed, or 3840x2069 which is the same maximum resolution under KDE (I'm not sure yet why there is this difference), if I put in modelines. Are you running KDE and GNOME from the same VM image? Meaning you're running KDE with gdm? Sometimes the below works, and sometimes it doesn't. With nVidia drivers it fails, with nouveau it works. Can you install monitor-edid. Then do something like I've done on laptop. [root@acer ~]# monitor-get-edid | monitor-parse-edid EISA ID: CMO1552 EDID version: 1.3 EDID extension blocks: 0 Screen size: 33.1 cm x 20.7 cm (15.37 inches, aspect ratio 16/10 = 1.60) Gamma: 2.2 Digital signal # Monitor preferred modeline (59.9 Hz vsync, 49.3 kHz hsync, ratio 16/10, 98 dpi) ModeLine "1280x800" 71 1280 1328 1360 1440 800 803 809 823 -hsync -vsync -- Remind me to ignore comments which aren't germane to the thread. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Can Someone Tell me What the Below Messages Mean
On 11/6/21 10:04, Tom Horsley wrote: On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 16:53:11 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote: Those are just info messages from scanning the PCI bus. If you aren't having any problems, you can ignore them. Yep, the system log exists to have a place to look if you notice problems. If you don't notice problems, you can mostly ignore the logs. Thankyou. I was just concerned that it might be indicating potentially problems with the onboard raid controllers or the raid array. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Xorg Scaling Issues (Solved)
On 11/6/21 15:04, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/06/2021 12:46, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2021-06-11 at 09:35 +1000, Stephen Morris wrote: I am using a 4K monitor that has HDR capabilities which, like windows, I won't get that functionality in linux without a monitor specific driver, which doesn't exist for linux. Is it really a case of needing a "driver," or is it just that we need a way to supply new EDID info to the system? There are EDID editors. In most cases, you just need to set information like pixel dimensions, screen dimensions, and clock rate, to get the graphics chipset to output the right things. It's not like you're also remote controlling the buttons that a monitor might have (well, not usually). I don't know whether its a design of the monitor, but under windows, windows does not provide HDR capability natively, I have to install a monitor specific driver supplied by the vendor, which unfortunately they don't supply for linux. Or, since he is using a VM, could it be the same behavior I see in my qemu VM's? If I run a KDE or GNOME desktop with gdm as my display manager the display will resize to whatever the VM's window size is. I'm using gdm and with Gnome under xorg the display scales when I expand the vm window dimensions, but if I start the vm with the window maximised the display does not scale. I have to unmaximize the window and then remaximize it for the display to scale. With kde it doesn't scale at all unless I put modelines in. If I use sddm, then it doesn't. And I have to pick the resolution from what the system-settings has determined to be available. I've not gone so far as to try adding modlines since for what I'm doing with my VMs the available resolutons are just fine. My issue with the system settings under both gnome and kde, is I am using a 4K monitor and the system settings don't offer a 4K resolution, even if the vm is running fullscreen, and also neither does xrandr specify that a 4K resolution is available. The system settings only show that a 4K resolution is accessible when I put in the relevant modeline. The system settings also only show a resolution of 3840x2075 which is the maximum resolution under gnome if I run the vm windowed, or 3840x2069 which is the same maximum resolution under KDE (I'm not sure yet why there is this difference), if I put in modelines. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
