Re: partially invisible back-up DVD.
On 26/10/2021 22:44, home user wrote: (fedora-34; gnome) The evening before doing a Fedora upgrade, I do a user data back-up. I do it as a data project in K3b to burn a DVD/Blu-ray (BD-R). I always "test" the back-up immediately after it's done. On April 07, 2021, I did such a back-up. I upgraded from f-32 to f-33 the next day. Today, when I put the disc into the drive, it automatically mounts and asks if I wish to view contents in Caja. In Caja, I successfully viewed an image stored on the disc, launched in Firefox an html file stored on the disc, and opened in LibreOffice a LibreOffice file stored on the disc. The disc was successfully unmounted and ejected when I asked Caja to do so. Also today, if I launch Files and then put the disc into the drive, it automatically mounts the disc. In Files, I successfully viewed an image stored on the disc, launched in Firefox an html file stored on the disc, and opened in LibreOffice a LibreOffice file stored on the disc. The disc was successfully unmounted and ejected when I asked Files to do so. On October 13, I did a user data back-up. Immediately after, I "tested" the back-up. 1. When I put the disc into the drive, nothing showed up on the screen. But I then launched Disks, the disc was there and mounted; it unmounted and ejected the disc when I told it to. 2. When I launched Files and then put the disc into the drive, the "+ Other Locations" flickered once, and that's all. But when I then launched Disks, the disc was there and mounted; it unmounted and ejected the disc when I told it to. 3. When I launched Caja and then put the disc into the drive, a message popped up "Unable to mount .F33_20211013 An operation is already pending". But when I then launched Disks, the disc was there and mounted; it unmounted and ejected the disc when I told it to. 4. When I launched Disks and then put the disc into the drive, the icon for the drive showed a disc. When I clicked that disc icon, it showed it mounted. When I clicked the mount path that showed below the graphic part of Disks, it launched Caja. I then successfully completed the "test" just as I did with the April 07 back-up disc, except that I had to use Disks to unmount and eject the disk. Also, I was able to restore a files from the back-up disc when using the Caja instance launched by Disks. I went ahead and upgraded from f-33 to f-34 the next day. Today, when I repeat steps 1-4 above using the October 13 back-up, I get the same results. Both back-up discs are Verbatum MDISC BD-R Blu-ray Disc, 25GB, 4x speed. Both were written with the same drive. What went wrong, and how do I fix it? Sounds like you have an "intermittent" issue with your DVD drive. Dust? How old is the drive? I've had drives just slowly die and other just dead after not being used for some time. I stopped using DVD's and CD's a long time ago. I only use it if I have to boot a live DVD since my motherboard doesn't support booting from USB. USB drives are quite inexpensive and more reliable than discs with the added advantage of having higher capacity. Why not switch? -- On Facebook it is called Vaguebooking. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Debugging USB device issues
Samuel, On 2021-10-27 11:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 2021-10-26 10:10, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: I didn't get a response to my previous Q re an apparent problem with getting gphoto2 to work with my GoPro Hero 4 Session camera - I hadn't used the camera for a while and I thought maybe the Fedora upgrades since then were the cause of the problem - but maybe the problem is actually with the USB port on the camera? (gphoto2 used to work). The camera actually charges OK through the port and I can record videos and then move them to Fedora by moving the SC card to a card reader, mounting the dir and copying video files to the HD so the camera itself and device charging seems to be OK. I am getting nothing recorded in /var/log/messages when I plug in the GoPro and push its power button (plugging in any other USB device is working of course) so maybe it is the USB port on the camera that is the problem? - is there any way to debug that from the Fedora workstation? If there is no message and another USB device shows up if you plug it in, then the problem is either with the camera or the cable. And therefore there is no to debug from the computer side . . OK . . Thanks! Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Debugging USB device issues
On 2021-10-26 10:10, Philip Rhoades via users wrote: I didn't get a response to my previous Q re an apparent problem with getting gphoto2 to work with my GoPro Hero 4 Session camera - I hadn't used the camera for a while and I thought maybe the Fedora upgrades since then were the cause of the problem - but maybe the problem is actually with the USB port on the camera? (gphoto2 used to work). The camera actually charges OK through the port and I can record videos and then move them to Fedora by moving the SC card to a card reader, mounting the dir and copying video files to the HD so the camera itself and device charging seems to be OK. I am getting nothing recorded in /var/log/messages when I plug in the GoPro and push its power button (plugging in any other USB device is working of course) so maybe it is the USB port on the camera that is the problem? - is there any way to debug that from the Fedora workstation? If there is no message and another USB device shows up if you plug it in, then the problem is either with the camera or the cable. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Problems with USB AudioEngine Speakers [another couple of data points]
On 10/26/21 15:46, Stephen Morris wrote: I have the same issue as Jonathan, in that all I see are: Off Analog Stereo Duplex Analog Stereo Output Analog Stereo Input But I am running Fedora in a Vmware VM using vmware's built in Audio interface. The device it sees is ES1371/ES1373/Creative Labs CT2518(Audio PCI 64V/128/5200 / Creative CT4810/CT5803/CT5806 [Sound Blaster PCI]. I think that selection came from Pulseaudio as System Settings->Hardware->Audio doesn't provide me with any option to select different Hardware if I want to. I'm using Logitech 7.1 headphones and with these settings usage of the volume control on the headphones is a bit dodgy at times in that it doesn't always actually control the volume. The profile options change if I disconnect the Logitech G533 headphones from the host and connect them to the VM, but I don't get anything like the options that Ed mentioned, but that may also be because Fedora doesn't seem to have direct support for those headphones (at least the last time I looked, and I haven't looked for a while) and Logitech don't provide any interfaces for Linux like they do for windows. Since moving F34 I haven't tried getting my "water fountain" bluetooth speakers working again with the Bluetooth 4.0 dongle as I found it very fiddly to actually get working and the usage of the speakers doesn't warrant the effort in setting it up again. If it's in a VM, then it can only see the virtual device that the VM host is providing which is going to be completely different from the real device and won't likely have many options. Any specific control of the real device has to be done in the host OS. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Problems with USB AudioEngine Speakers [another couple of data points]
On 27/10/2021 06:46, Stephen Morris wrote: Maybe the manual for the speaker would have some insight? FWIW, the manual for mine indicated that " Optimal codec is automatically selected from AAC, LDAC, and SBC." LDAC in System Settings was the one causing bad results. In thinking about it, it sorta sound like talking in front of an electric fan. I have the same issue as Jonathan, in that all I see are: Off Analog Stereo Duplex Analog Stereo Output Analog Stereo Input But I am running Fedora in a Vmware VM using vmware's built in Audio interface. The device it sees is ES1371/ES1373/Creative Labs CT2518(Audio PCI 64V/128/5200 / Creative CT4810/CT5803/CT5806 [Sound Blaster PCI]. I think that selection came from Pulseaudio as System Settings->Hardware->Audio doesn't provide me with any option to select different Hardware if I want to. I'm using Logitech 7.1 headphones and with these settings usage of the volume control on the headphones is a bit dodgy at times in that it doesn't always actually control the volume. The profile options change if I disconnect the Logitech G533 headphones from the host and connect them to the VM, but I don't get anything like the options that Ed mentioned, but that may also be because Fedora doesn't seem to have direct support for those headphones (at least the last time I looked, and I haven't looked for a while) and Logitech don't provide any interfaces for Linux like they do for windows. Since moving F34 I haven't tried getting my "water fountain" bluetooth speakers working again with the Bluetooth 4.0 dongle as I found it very fiddly to actually get working and the usage of the speakers doesn't warrant the effort in setting it up again. LDAC, AAC, and SBC are options you'd see if the audio HW was bluetooth. In your case, it isn't. If you want to use BT in a VM you'd need a BT dongle and you would have to user USB Redirection to give the VM access to the HW. I don't know much about the G533 headset but doubt there are Linux drivers for it. It also connects via the Unifying Receiver from Logitech, yes? -- On Facebook it is called Vaguebooking. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Problems with USB AudioEngine Speakers [another couple of data points]
On 18/10/21 09:39, Ed Greshko wrote: On 18/10/2021 04:04, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: On Sun, 2021-10-17 at 19:50 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: On 17/10/2021 18:37, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2021-10-17 at 12:58 +0800, Ed Greshko wrote: The Fedora system produces sound with, hard to describe, some "stuttering". So, it gives the impression of clicks, but there aren't any. I wonder if that's a buffering or a sample rate conversion issue. For instance, if one piece of the puzzle decides it's going to convert 44.1 to 48 kHz samples (though it could have just passed it through, as-is) it might introduce noticeable distortions. OK, I've "fixed" the problem. I'm using KDE and I went to System Settings-->Hardware-->Audio-->Configure and for the profile for the Bluetooth speaker output I picked High Fidelity Playback (A2DP Sink, codec ACC) and now everything is great! Interesting. The choices on my system are much less informative. For AudioEngine 2+ Device Profile: * Off * Analog Stereo Output * Digital Stereo (E958) Output <=== * Pro Audio Speaker Placement and Testing * AudioEngine 2+ Digital Stereo (E958) <=== * Build in Audio Analog Stereo Right now the marked choices are active, the sound is good, and the connection hasn't been dropped for the last day. Does anyone know what these choices mean? In particular, what is "Digital Stereo (E958)"? Maybe the manual for the speaker would have some insight? FWIW, the manual for mine indicated that " Optimal codec is automatically selected from AAC, LDAC, and SBC." LDAC in System Settings was the one causing bad results. In thinking about it, it sorta sound like talking in front of an electric fan. I have the same issue as Jonathan, in that all I see are: Off Analog Stereo Duplex Analog Stereo Output Analog Stereo Input But I am running Fedora in a Vmware VM using vmware's built in Audio interface. The device it sees is ES1371/ES1373/Creative Labs CT2518(Audio PCI 64V/128/5200 / Creative CT4810/CT5803/CT5806 [Sound Blaster PCI]. I think that selection came from Pulseaudio as System Settings->Hardware->Audio doesn't provide me with any option to select different Hardware if I want to. I'm using Logitech 7.1 headphones and with these settings usage of the volume control on the headphones is a bit dodgy at times in that it doesn't always actually control the volume. The profile options change if I disconnect the Logitech G533 headphones from the host and connect them to the VM, but I don't get anything like the options that Ed mentioned, but that may also be because Fedora doesn't seem to have direct support for those headphones (at least the last time I looked, and I haven't looked for a while) and Logitech don't provide any interfaces for Linux like they do for windows. Since moving F34 I haven't tried getting my "water fountain" bluetooth speakers working again with the Bluetooth 4.0 dongle as I found it very fiddly to actually get working and the usage of the speakers doesn't warrant the effort in setting it up again. regards, Steve -- On Facebook it is called Vaguebooking. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Growing shared memory leak?
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:46 PM Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > > > Deleted files were the culprit, thanks! > ___ Not sure why it is this way (counted as shared) but this seems to confirm that tmpfs is counted as shared: from the /proc/meminfo documentation: Shmem Total memory used by shared memory (shmem) and tmpfs ShmemHugePages Memory used by shared memory (shmem) and tmpfs allocated with huge pages I have been reading the meminfo documentation trying to try to account for all of the memory usage on a system. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Growing shared memory leak?
On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 2:21 PM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > Hi, > > I trimmed a lot of useful context only because I don't have > anything terribly useful to say about it. > > Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > > jmetzmeier@localhost:/tmp $ df -hT /tmp > > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > > tmpfs tmpfs 16G 3.5G 13G 22% /tmp > > > > However, `du` does not show 3.5GB of files inside: > > > > jmetzmeier@localhost:/tmp $ sudo du -sh ./ > > 32K ./ > > > > Does anyone know what could be happening here? Does writing a file to > > tmpfs and then deleting it cause the tmpfs to retain that allocated > > memory until reboot? > > > > My system is running Fedora 34. I have ensured nothing is mounted over > > top of /tmp and hiding files. > > I don't know if there are subtle issues because this is a > memory-based tmpfs filesystem. But in general, you can see > something like this if a process opens a file and keeps it > open after it's deleted. The space used by that file isn't > freed until the process which has it open exits (or closes > the file). > > You can look for that sort of thing with the lsof command: > > sudo lsof -a +L1 /tmp > > Maybe that will point to what's taking up the space. > > -- > Todd Deleted files were the culprit, thanks! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Growing shared memory leak?
Hi, I trimmed a lot of useful context only because I don't have anything terribly useful to say about it. Jordan Metzmeier wrote: > jmetzmeier@localhost:/tmp $ df -hT /tmp > Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on > tmpfs tmpfs 16G 3.5G 13G 22% /tmp > > However, `du` does not show 3.5GB of files inside: > > jmetzmeier@localhost:/tmp $ sudo du -sh ./ > 32K ./ > > Does anyone know what could be happening here? Does writing a file to > tmpfs and then deleting it cause the tmpfs to retain that allocated > memory until reboot? > > My system is running Fedora 34. I have ensured nothing is mounted over > top of /tmp and hiding files. I don't know if there are subtle issues because this is a memory-based tmpfs filesystem. But in general, you can see something like this if a process opens a file and keeps it open after it's deleted. The space used by that file isn't freed until the process which has it open exits (or closes the file). You can look for that sort of thing with the lsof command: sudo lsof -a +L1 /tmp Maybe that will point to what's taking up the space. -- Todd signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Growing shared memory leak?
On 10/26/21 12:23 PM, Jordan Metzmeier wrote: Does anyone know what could be happening here? Does writing a file to tmpfs and then deleting it cause the tmpfs to retain that allocated memory until reboot? Wikipedia tells us that shared memory is used to communicate between programs and between threads in a program. It's created by shm_open and then goes on to say this: The shared memory created by shm_open is persistent. It stays in the system until explicitly removed by a process. This has a drawback that if the process crashes and fails to clean up shared memory it will stay until system shutdown. My guess is that one or more of the programs you're using is either crashing or is otherwise ill-behaved and not cleaning up after itself. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Growing shared memory leak?
I am trying to determine if a problem I am experiencing is a bug or if there is something I am missing. Last week I found that 15GB of my 32GB RAM was used by shared memory, causing my system to fill swap. After about 1hr of trying to discover the reason for this, the only thing I could find was that `df` was indicating that space was being used by tmpfs mounted on /tmp, but I could not find files that came anywhere close to this size. Now I am inspecting my system after a few days of uptime and have found that shared memory is slowly growing again. It's currently up to almost 4GB: jmetzmeier@localhost:/tmp $ free -m totalusedfree shared buff/cache available Mem: 32065949321853920 20386 18204 Swap: 819121146077 When I check df, what's reported as used on /tmp is pretty close to my shared memory usage: jmetzmeier@localhost:/tmp $ df -hT /tmp Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on tmpfs tmpfs 16G 3.5G 13G 22% /tmp However, `du` does not show 3.5GB of files inside: jmetzmeier@localhost:/tmp $ sudo du -sh ./ 32K ./ Does anyone know what could be happening here? Does writing a file to tmpfs and then deleting it cause the tmpfs to retain that allocated memory until reboot? My system is running Fedora 34. I have ensured nothing is mounted over top of /tmp and hiding files. Thanks, Jordan Metzmeier ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Debugging USB device issues
People, I didn't get a response to my previous Q re an apparent problem with getting gphoto2 to work with my GoPro Hero 4 Session camera - I hadn't used the camera for a while and I thought maybe the Fedora upgrades since then were the cause of the problem - but maybe the problem is actually with the USB port on the camera? (gphoto2 used to work). The camera actually charges OK through the port and I can record videos and then move them to Fedora by moving the SC card to a card reader, mounting the dir and copying video files to the HD so the camera itself and device charging seems to be OK. I am getting nothing recorded in /var/log/messages when I plug in the GoPro and push its power button (plugging in any other USB device is working of course) so maybe it is the USB port on the camera that is the problem? - is there any way to debug that from the Fedora workstation? Thanks, Phil. -- Philip Rhoades PO Box 896 Cowra NSW 2794 Australia E-mail: p...@pricom.com.au ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Gnome Nautilus and no thumbnails from connected Android storage
On 10/26/21 6:20 AM, lejeczek via users wrote: Anything really, but don't keep users in the dark .. perhaps because they are all simpletons and devs know better. Or, as I often suspect, the devs are thinking, "We don't use that so there's no need to provide it." ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
partially invisible back-up DVD.
(fedora-34; gnome) The evening before doing a Fedora upgrade, I do a user data back-up. I do it as a data project in K3b to burn a DVD/Blu-ray (BD-R). I always "test" the back-up immediately after it's done. On April 07, 2021, I did such a back-up. I upgraded from f-32 to f-33 the next day. Today, when I put the disc into the drive, it automatically mounts and asks if I wish to view contents in Caja. In Caja, I successfully viewed an image stored on the disc, launched in Firefox an html file stored on the disc, and opened in LibreOffice a LibreOffice file stored on the disc. The disc was successfully unmounted and ejected when I asked Caja to do so. Also today, if I launch Files and then put the disc into the drive, it automatically mounts the disc. In Files, I successfully viewed an image stored on the disc, launched in Firefox an html file stored on the disc, and opened in LibreOffice a LibreOffice file stored on the disc. The disc was successfully unmounted and ejected when I asked Files to do so. On October 13, I did a user data back-up. Immediately after, I "tested" the back-up. 1. When I put the disc into the drive, nothing showed up on the screen. But I then launched Disks, the disc was there and mounted; it unmounted and ejected the disc when I told it to. 2. When I launched Files and then put the disc into the drive, the "+ Other Locations" flickered once, and that's all. But when I then launched Disks, the disc was there and mounted; it unmounted and ejected the disc when I told it to. 3. When I launched Caja and then put the disc into the drive, a message popped up "Unable to mount .F33_20211013 An operation is already pending". But when I then launched Disks, the disc was there and mounted; it unmounted and ejected the disc when I told it to. 4. When I launched Disks and then put the disc into the drive, the icon for the drive showed a disc. When I clicked that disc icon, it showed it mounted. When I clicked the mount path that showed below the graphic part of Disks, it launched Caja. I then successfully completed the "test" just as I did with the April 07 back-up disc, except that I had to use Disks to unmount and eject the disk. Also, I was able to restore a files from the back-up disc when using the Caja instance launched by Disks. I went ahead and upgraded from f-33 to f-34 the next day. Today, when I repeat steps 1-4 above using the October 13 back-up, I get the same results. Both back-up discs are Verbatum MDISC BD-R Blu-ray Disc, 25GB, 4x speed. Both were written with the same drive. What went wrong, and how do I fix it? Thank-you in advance. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: router silence.
On 10/25/21 8:18 PM, Tim via users wrote: On Mon, 2021-10-25 at 13:54 -0600, home user wrote: That appears to have worked. (Odd, I never had to do that before.) This reply is going through the router. It could be that *your* modem and/or router doesn't need power cycling, in general, but that it randomly goofed and needed it this time. You can test that. Unplug its data leads, leave it powered up. Some time later, repatch it, and see if things just work. By "repatch", you mean reconnect, right? Next time I check for ipad OS patches/upgrades, I'll try what you suggest. That's done monthly. It may also depend on things like; do you leave your modem always powered? Some people leave everything off, and the individual lengths of time it takes for their modems and routers to boot up means that things always work for them, or randomly don't work. The tower is powered down nightly. The router is powered up only when I need it, which seems to be once a month. (My other uses of the ipad do not need the internet.) The modem is an Arris phone modem, so it's always on (for the land-line phone). Thank-you, Tim. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Gnome Nautilus and no thumbnails from connected Android storage
On 25/10/2021 03:00, Jonathan Billings wrote: On Oct 24, 2021, at 20:56, Tim via users wrote: On Sun, 2021-10-24 at 16:34 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: This is intentional. In order to make thumbnails, it would have to read the entire files from the device over the slow MTP link. Most people would be very unhappy about that because they wouldn't be able to do anything else until everything is read from the phone. The same can be said about other networking protocols, which is why we had options to display them, or not, and let us make the choice about consequences. Trying to find a photo from a phone is a pain, they don't have useful filenames. You've got to go trawling through them all to find something. If you're organised, you might move photos into sensible folder names as you go along. And you might decide that it is worth turning on thumbnails to find the specific photo out of 20 from last week's birthday party. If you read the context in the gitlab issue I posted, basically performance is terrible when previews were being generated. Someone complained (back when it was originally filed) that it should be controlled by a setting and the Nautilus/gvfs developers chose not to. The only way it’ll be switched back is to open a new issue, perhaps with a merge request with code improving the threading performance enough to make thumbnails not bring the whole interface to a stall. Again - this should be given back to users that executive decision - which I'd advocate for - whether or not users want/need thumbnails off their Android phones. Problem in the past was not - if I remember correctly - that transfer was slow. It rather was that the whole system would "freeze" what such transfer took place. It really could be simple - "Show Thumbnails = All files" does what is says OR expand with one extra entry "All files excluding USB Phone". Anything really, but don't keep users in the dark .. perhaps because they are all simpletons and devs know better. many thanks, L. ps. how can a user file such a request, in Bugzilla? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
