Re: Nvidia refresh rate.

2022-07-31 Thread Barry


> On 31 Jul 2022, at 13:07, GianPiero Puccioni  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I want to decrease the refrash rate of the video to use less battery but I am
> having difficulties...
> 
> I have F35 with KDE on a Dell G15 with Nvidia GA107M [GeForce RTX 3050 Ti
> Mobile], the RPMFusion drivers and a  1920x1080  resolution (native).
> 
> In the "system settings-display" There is the possibility to change refresh 
> from
> 120Hz to 60Hz but it doesn't stick; I change it and "apply" but if I change
> screen and go back to "display" it's again at 120Hz, I tried "nvidia-settings"
> but it has only info, not settings.
> The program "xrandr" reports
>   1920x1080120.00*+  59.9759.9659.93
> 
> Is this the problem 59.97 not 60?

That is usual, it’s called 60 but is in fact the NTSC refresh rate.
It’s offset from 60Hz to avoid flicker effects from lighting I understand.

Barry

> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> G
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread ToddAndMargo via users

On 7/31/22 06:56, James Szinger wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 20:01:48 -0400
Tom Horsley  wrote:


Although why anyone would want to use fedora for a long term server
is a separate question :-). (CentOS or Ubuntu LTS comes to mind).


Software.

RHEL provides only a small fraction of the packages available in
Fedora.  Even worse, RH disables features that Fedora has and RH
aggressively removes the `-devel` packages.  When I tried building
software on CentOS, I had to patch and rebuild a bunch of Fedora
packages, patch and rebuild some CentOS packages, and rebuild some
more CentOS packages for packages that builds but doesn’t ship before
I could even begin.  I found this to be a waste of time and not
sustainable.

As far as Ubuntu goes, I would probably choose Debian.  But I am more
comfortable with rpm than apt, and have yet to find a good guide on
how to build my own `.deb` packages.

I also find it easier to manage the stream of small changes that come
with Fedora instead of the flood of changes that come with a new RHEL
release.

Jim



I used RHEL cones for years.  They DROVE ME CRAZY.
RHEL locked in older versions of code, bugs and
all.  Things never improved.   And Red hat
is very difficult to get to fix anything unless
you put one of them on your payroll, which no
individual or small business can do.

I upgraded to Fedroa and I still am tickled
when I start it.  And it has been sevarl
years.   EVERYTHING WORKS (well almost).

I set up Fedora (as a) server by first just
installing Xfce from Live Xfce.  Then I install
whatever server software I need.

And if you want to pull a RHEL with Fedora,
just don't upgrade it.

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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread Tim via users
On Sun, 2022-07-31 at 20:26 -0300, George N. White III wrote:
> Debian unstable is a rolling release.
> https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/developers-practitioners/how-google-got-to-rolling-linux-releases-for-desktops
> says: " In the future, we are planning to work even more closely with
> upstream Debian and contribute more of our internal patches to
> maintain the Debian package ecosystem."

Nice to read them articulate how ongoing major updates are a pain (it's
not just us end-users who hate it).  And amusing to read their internal
Linux was called Goobuntu (if you're an Australian of a certain age,
calling someone a goober was akin to calling them an social pariah and
a fool).

Harking back to my pre-IBM-compatible days I used Amigas, which came
pre-installed with their OS and was rarely ever updated.  They lasted
many years, many people would have bought new and better hardware long
before considering trying to change the OS software.

Various system files got updated over time usually by simply replacing
a library file, but sometimes an alternative thing was introduced and
many things used that instead (e.g. the file-requesters for loading and
saving your files could be the original basic one, or use an
alternative fancier one).  That avoided breakage, but also allowed
improvements.  But there weren't many OS updates, it wasn't really
needed.  It was all about the applications.
 
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread George N. White III
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 5:44 PM Robert McBroom via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

>
> On 7/30/22 20:01, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:50:57 -0700
> > ToddAndMargo via users wrote:
> >
> >> Can I jump directly, or do I have to go one or
> >> two revisions at a time?
> > My approach would be to start from scratch on a new disk (or at least
> > a new partition) and install anything needed to get the same
> configuration
> > working. (The challenge is taking into account everything that became
> > obsolete and was replaced during that time).
> >
> > Although why anyone would want to use fedora for a long term server
> > is a separate question :-). (CentOS or Ubuntu LTS comes to mind).
> CentOS-Stream has removed any utility of CentOS. Lifetime is
> ridiculously short and no version upgrade.
>

Rolling releases don't have version upgrades.   For my own mission-critical
applications (which can run on headless servers), there has been a
reduction
in breaking changes across updates and also better portability across
distros.
For a while, new versions of GNU compilers (the software uses C, Fortran 95,
and C++) had bugs, but I haven't encountered a compiler bug in several
years.

Users do struggle with UI changes and missing drivers for legacy non-ipp
printer,
network, and graphics devices.   Flatpaks have been helpful in allowing
people to
use older app versions on a recent distro where the new version isn't to
their
liking.

Debian unstable is a rolling release.
https://cloud.google.com/blog/topics/developers-practitioners/how-google-got-to-rolling-linux-releases-for-desktops
says: " In the future, we are planning to work even more closely with
upstream
Debian and contribute more of our internal patches to maintain the Debian
package ecosystem."

Google does extensive testing but doesn't have to be concerned with support
for legacy hardware.


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Re: Wifi Device Last Used Message From Network Manager - What Does the Message Mean?

2022-07-31 Thread Stephen Morris

On 30/7/22 03:59, George N. White III wrote:
On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:52 PM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


On 25/7/22 20:15, Alex wrote:
> It means what it says. If you are connected to Wi-Fi, it will
display
> last used Now, disconnect and it will instead say last used 1
minute ago.
Thanks Alex, that is what I thought it meant, but what does it
mean when
it says "Device last used 30 minutes ago" on a device that Linux was
unable to detect because Windows Fast Boot had the device locked, and
especially when I had just booted into Linux on a machine that had
been
powered off for 9 hours?


30 minutes + time zone difference of 8 or 9 hours?
Thanks George, it's possible, I just wasn't expecting it to take the 
time zone into account and treat local time as UTC time.


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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Mr Brian Domenick
Did you try shutting off hardware decoding. i vaguely remember some 
issue I had with h264 and the settings were very finicky recently.


Brian

On 7/31/22 3:29 PM, John Pilkington wrote:

On 31/07/2022 17:56, Javier Perez wrote:


Hi
Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


I'm still with F35 and vlc has no trouble with this codec, the 
standard for DVB-T2 broadcasting here.


rpm -qa | grep -i vlc shows vlc and vlc-core, both at 3.0.17.2-1

IIRC vlc doesn't use external codecs.  I don't think ffmpeg is required.

John P
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread John Pilkington

On 31/07/2022 17:56, Javier Perez wrote:


Hi
Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


I'm still with F35 and vlc has no trouble with this codec, the standard 
for DVB-T2 broadcasting here.


rpm -qa | grep -i vlc shows vlc and vlc-core, both at 3.0.17.2-1

IIRC vlc doesn't use external codecs.  I don't think ffmpeg is required.

John P
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread Robert McBroom via users


On 7/30/22 20:01, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 16:50:57 -0700
ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Can I jump directly, or do I have to go one or
two revisions at a time?

My approach would be to start from scratch on a new disk (or at least
a new partition) and install anything needed to get the same configuration
working. (The challenge is taking into account everything that became
obsolete and was replaced during that time).

Although why anyone would want to use fedora for a long term server
is a separate question :-). (CentOS or Ubuntu LTS comes to mind).
CentOS-Stream has removed any utility of CentOS. Lifetime is 
ridiculously short and no version upgrade.

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
Installed Packages
ffmpeg.x86_645.0.1-3.fc36
  @rpmfusion-free

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 3:31 PM Grumpey  wrote:

> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 4:22 PM Javier Perez  wrote:
> >
> > I thought maybe something got mixed up with the upgrade from F35 to F36.
> I did first a "dnf remove vlc" and after, did a "dnf install vlc".
> >
> > I still get the same problem.
>
> You may want to check which ffmpeg is installed.
> ffmpeg.x86_64   5.0.1-3.fc36
>  @rpmfusion-free
> or
> ffmpeg-free.x86_64  5.0.1-11.fc36
>  updates
>
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 7/31/22 09:56, Javier Perez wrote:

Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


vlc should have dependencies for all the libraries it needs.  But let's 
see what you have.


rpm -q vlc
rpm -qa | grep 264
rpm -qa | grep libav
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Grumpey
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 4:22 PM Javier Perez  wrote:
>
> I thought maybe something got mixed up with the upgrade from F35 to F36. I 
> did first a "dnf remove vlc" and after, did a "dnf install vlc".
>
> I still get the same problem.

You may want to check which ffmpeg is installed.
ffmpeg.x86_64   5.0.1-3.fc36
 @rpmfusion-free
or
ffmpeg-free.x86_64  5.0.1-11.fc36
 updates

Joe
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 7/31/22 10:43, stan via users wrote:

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:56:21 -0500
Javier Perez  wrote:


Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?


Do you have a sample link on the web of this codec?  The reason I ask
is I would like to see if it plays here.  Do you have the fedora h264
repository installed and active?  I just got an update on it today, so
maybe the means to play it is available with that update.  It is called
fedora-cisco-openh264.repo


Since he has vlc installed, he must have rpmfusion enabled.  I think the 
h264 libraries from there are better than the cisco one.  (Unless it's 
changed, the cisco ones were limited in some way.)  But I appear to have 
all the h264 libraries from the various repos and vlc has no problem 
with h264 videos.


But a sample link would be good if that's possible.
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Re: Fedora 35 crashes with all updates applied. How do I submit a bug report re. crashing in Gnome but probably Kernel bug.

2022-07-31 Thread Grumpey
On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 3:42 PM Michael Young  wrote:
>
> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022, stan wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 12:44:24 +0100
> > Andrew Wood  wrote:
> >
> >> I have Fedora set up with Fedora 35 (workstation edition) using Gnome
> >> 41.6.
> >>
> >> I notice a (annoying!) bug which occurs when I try and cut and paste
> >> from one window to another. What seems to happen is that the Gnome
> >> session closes and it dumps me into terminal mode. If I type Ctrl-C
> >> then Gnome restarts and a new user session is presented. Prior to my
> >> most recent update, this bug seemed even worse in its frequency and
> >> scope. But still, I am now continuing to potentially losing work (and
> >> basic functionality).
> >>
> >> This might be a Kernel error using shared memory between threads or
> >> processes but I really don't know. It's a guess. Anyhow, what do I
> >> need to do, to file a bug and what memory or process dumps/logs/stack
> >> traces are needed to help the developers. ie what do I type where!
> >
> > I suggest that you open a bug, describing your experiences.  The
> > maintainers of Gnome will have a much better idea of what they need to
> > diagnose or fix the bug.  If you search for bugs, you might even find
> > that this is already known (there is an already opened bugzilla), and
> > there might be a workaround.
>
> I have been seeing this as well. It seems a lot more stable after I
> downgraded gnome-shell.
>
> Michael Young

Can you check that you have,
https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2022-4bfe306a05l

If you have the update and it is still occurring please chime in here,
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2110041

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
I thought maybe something got mixed up with the upgrade from F35 to F36. I
did first a "dnf remove vlc" and after, did a "dnf install vlc".

I still get the same problem.




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> On 7/31/22 12:08, Javier Perez wrote:
> > I reinstalled vlc and nothing, it gave me the same problem.
>
> And why did you think that reinstalling vlc would change anything?  And,
> did you use dnf reinstall, or did you remove the program and do a clean
> install?  There's a big difference, you know.
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Re: Fedora 35 crashes with all updates applied. How do I submit a bug report re. crashing in Gnome but probably Kernel bug.

2022-07-31 Thread Michael Young

On Sun, 31 Jul 2022, stan wrote:


On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 12:44:24 +0100
Andrew Wood  wrote:


I have Fedora set up with Fedora 35 (workstation edition) using Gnome
41.6.

I notice a (annoying!) bug which occurs when I try and cut and paste
from one window to another. What seems to happen is that the Gnome
session closes and it dumps me into terminal mode. If I type Ctrl-C
then Gnome restarts and a new user session is presented. Prior to my
most recent update, this bug seemed even worse in its frequency and
scope. But still, I am now continuing to potentially losing work (and
basic functionality).

This might be a Kernel error using shared memory between threads or
processes but I really don't know. It's a guess. Anyhow, what do I
need to do, to file a bug and what memory or process dumps/logs/stack
traces are needed to help the developers. ie what do I type where!


I suggest that you open a bug, describing your experiences.  The
maintainers of Gnome will have a much better idea of what they need to
diagnose or fix the bug.  If you search for bugs, you might even find
that this is already known (there is an already opened bugzilla), and
there might be a workaround.


I have been seeing this as well. It seems a lot more stable after I 
downgraded gnome-shell.


Michael Young
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Joe Zeff

On 7/31/22 12:08, Javier Perez wrote:

I reinstalled vlc and nothing, it gave me the same problem.


And why did you think that reinstalling vlc would change anything?  And, 
did you use dnf reinstall, or did you remove the program and do a clean 
install?  There's a big difference, you know.

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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
Hi.
I could play it with mpv. It is working.
This is my list of enabled repositories
# dnf repolist --enabled
repo idrepo name
adobe-linux-x86_64 Adobe Systems Incorporated
brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com_x86_64_ created by dnf
config-manager from https://brave-browser-rpm-release.s3.brave.com/x86_64/
copr:copr.fedorainfracloud.org:kwizart:fedyCopr repo for fedy owned by
kwizart
fedora Fedora 36 - x86_64
fedora-cisco-openh264  Fedora 36 openh264 (From
Cisco) - x86_64
fedora-modular Fedora Modular 36 - x86_64
google-chrome  google-chrome
rpmfusion-free RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Free
rpmfusion-free-tainted RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Free tainted
rpmfusion-free-updates RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Free - Updates
rpmfusion-nonfree  RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Nonfree
rpmfusion-nonfree-updates  RPM Fusion for Fedora 36 -
Nonfree - Updates
updatesFedora 36 - x86_64 - Updates
updates-modularFedora Modular 36 - x86_64 -
Updates

I reinstalled vlc and nothing, it gave me the same problem. It plays the
audio but not the video and it pop ups the message

Codec not supported:

VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 12:44 PM stan via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:56:21 -0500
> Javier Perez  wrote:
>
> > Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> > What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
>
> Do you have a sample link on the web of this codec?  The reason I ask
> is I would like to see if it plays here.  Do you have the fedora h264
> repository installed and active?  I just got an update on it today, so
> maybe the means to play it is available with that update.  It is called
> fedora-cisco-openh264.repo
>
> You could try ffplay, part of the ffmpeg program.  It is actively
> developed, and seems to get the latest codecs very quickly.  I think it
> is the underlying basis for many of the other video players on fedora.
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Re: VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 11:56:21 -0500
Javier Perez  wrote:

> Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
> What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?

Do you have a sample link on the web of this codec?  The reason I ask
is I would like to see if it plays here.  Do you have the fedora h264
repository installed and active?  I just got an update on it today, so
maybe the means to play it is available with that update.  It is called
fedora-cisco-openh264.repo

You could try ffplay, part of the ffmpeg program.  It is actively
developed, and seems to get the latest codecs very quickly.  I think it
is the underlying basis for many of the other video players on fedora.
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Re: Nvidia refresh rate.

2022-07-31 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 14:07:21 +0200
GianPiero Puccioni  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I want to decrease the refrash rate of the video to use less battery
> but I am having difficulties...
> 
> I have F35 with KDE on a Dell G15 with Nvidia GA107M [GeForce RTX
> 3050 Ti Mobile], the RPMFusion drivers and a  1920x1080  resolution
> (native).
> 
> In the "system settings-display" There is the possibility to change
> refresh from 120Hz to 60Hz but it doesn't stick; I change it and
> "apply" but if I change screen and go back to "display" it's again at
> 120Hz, I tried "nvidia-settings" but it has only info, not settings.
> The program "xrandr" reports
> 1920x1080120.00*+  59.9759.9659.93
> 
> Is this the problem 59.97 not 60?
> 
> Any suggestions?

This certainly sounds like a bug.  But, if it is related to nvidia,
only they will be able to fix it.  Two suggestions.

Post on the rpmfusion list, they might have an idea about how to fix
this as they package the nvidia drivers.

Post at the nvidia site (I don't know it, but it should be available
with a search.  It could also be known, and have a workaround.
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Re: Fedora 35 crashes with all updates applied. How do I submit a bug report re. crashing in Gnome but probably Kernel bug.

2022-07-31 Thread stan via users
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 12:44:24 +0100
Andrew Wood  wrote:
 
> I have Fedora set up with Fedora 35 (workstation edition) using Gnome
> 41.6.
> 
> I notice a (annoying!) bug which occurs when I try and cut and paste 
> from one window to another. What seems to happen is that the Gnome 
> session closes and it dumps me into terminal mode. If I type Ctrl-C
> then Gnome restarts and a new user session is presented. Prior to my
> most recent update, this bug seemed even worse in its frequency and
> scope. But still, I am now continuing to potentially losing work (and
> basic functionality).
> 
> This might be a Kernel error using shared memory between threads or 
> processes but I really don't know. It's a guess. Anyhow, what do I
> need to do, to file a bug and what memory or process dumps/logs/stack
> traces are needed to help the developers. ie what do I type where!

I suggest that you open a bug, describing your experiences.  The
maintainers of Gnome will have a much better idea of what they need to
diagnose or fix the bug.  If you search for bugs, you might even find
that this is already known (there is an already opened bugzilla), and
there might be a workaround.
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VLC could not decode the format "h264" (H264 - MPEG-4 AVC (part 10))

2022-07-31 Thread Javier Perez
Hi
Just upgraded from F35 to F36.
What plugin do I have to add in order to play this codec?
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread James Szinger
On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 20:01:48 -0400
Tom Horsley  wrote:

> Although why anyone would want to use fedora for a long term server
> is a separate question :-). (CentOS or Ubuntu LTS comes to mind).

Software.

RHEL provides only a small fraction of the packages available in
Fedora.  Even worse, RH disables features that Fedora has and RH
aggressively removes the `-devel` packages.  When I tried building
software on CentOS, I had to patch and rebuild a bunch of Fedora
packages, patch and rebuild some CentOS packages, and rebuild some
more CentOS packages for packages that builds but doesn’t ship before
I could even begin.  I found this to be a waste of time and not
sustainable.

As far as Ubuntu goes, I would probably choose Debian.  But I am more
comfortable with rpm than apt, and have yet to find a good guide on
how to build my own `.deb` packages.

I also find it easier to manage the stream of small changes that come
with Fedora instead of the flood of changes that come with a new RHEL
release.

Jim
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread Tom Horsley
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 09:46:39 -0400
Go Canes wrote:

> If you use a VM for the test-run
> you could use snapshots

I always install a new fedora on a VM then after I like it, rsync
the VM to a disk partition, fix a few UUIDs and such in various
config files, then boot to it using the grub "configfile" option.
(Works with BIOS installs, probably more difficult with EFI).

I get to do the initial install and configure without taking the
system down by using a VM.
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread Go Canes
On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 7:51 PM ToddAndMargo via users
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> I have a customer who FINALLY agreed to have me upgrade
> his Fedora 32 server to 36.
>
> Can I jump directly, or do I have to go one or
> two revisions at a time?

If possible, I would clone the system (use a different host name and
make sure client apps don't get started until/unless you want them to
start) and do a test-run of the upgrade process as well as any
installed applications.  If all goes well you could then clone the
test system back to production which may be less downtime for your
client than an in-place upgrade.

Backup at every significant step.  If you use a VM for the test-run
you could use snapshots (allow for plenty of disk space for the
snapshots!).

Did I mention backups?

Backups!
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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread George N. White III
On Sat, Jul 30, 2022 at 8:51 PM ToddAndMargo via users <
users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I have a customer who FINALLY agreed to have me upgrade
> his Fedora 32 server to 36.
>
> Can I jump directly, or do I have to go one or
> two revisions at a time?
>

As others have mentioned, there are good reasons to do one or two revisions
at a
time.  It could be useful to compare the list of installed packages with
what F36 provides
so you can plan for replacement of packages that are no longer available.

If the Fedora 32 server's system disk is near end-of-warranty, you might
consider
cloning the old disk onto a newer disk and doing upgrades on the new disk.
Upgrades
are disk intensive and can push an older disk into failure.  A new disk is
much cheaper
than the cost of down time time it takes to deal with a system disk that
dies during an
update -- you end up waiting for finance to approve a replacement disk,
restoring
backups to the new disk, and starting the updates from scratch.

A lot depends on how your customer uses the system.   If the system has a
lot of 3rd
party software installed you may want to consider whether application data
can be
dumped and restored on a newer version of the software.  It is often better
to
remove obsolete software before starting upgrades and then installing the
current
version and importing the old database.

I have spent way too much of my time transferring large email and document
collections from old systems to new systems where many of the files
triggered
AV detections.  I have noticed that the higher the pay grade, the more
malware
detections (not sure if the higher ups are targeted or just less careful).

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Nvidia refresh rate.

2022-07-31 Thread GianPiero Puccioni

Hi,

I want to decrease the refrash rate of the video to use less battery but I am
having difficulties...

I have F35 with KDE on a Dell G15 with Nvidia GA107M [GeForce RTX 3050 Ti
Mobile], the RPMFusion drivers and a  1920x1080  resolution (native).

In the "system settings-display" There is the possibility to change refresh from
120Hz to 60Hz but it doesn't stick; I change it and "apply" but if I change
screen and go back to "display" it's again at 120Hz, I tried "nvidia-settings"
but it has only info, not settings.
The program "xrandr" reports
   1920x1080120.00*+  59.9759.9659.93

Is this the problem 59.97 not 60?

Any suggestions?

G
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Fedora 35 crashes with all updates applied. How do I submit a bug report re. crashing in Gnome but probably Kernel bug.

2022-07-31 Thread Andrew Wood

Hello,

I have Fedora set up with Fedora 35 (workstation edition) using Gnome 41.6.

I notice a (annoying!) bug which occurs when I try and cut and paste 
from one window to another. What seems to happen is that the Gnome 
session closes and it dumps me into terminal mode. If I type Ctrl-C then 
Gnome restarts and a new user session is presented. Prior to my most 
recent update, this bug seemed even worse in its frequency and scope. 
But still, I am now continuing to potentially losing work (and basic 
functionality).


This might be a Kernel error using shared memory between threads or 
processes but I really don't know. It's a guess. Anyhow, what do I need 
to do, to file a bug and what memory or process dumps/logs/stack traces  
are needed to help the developers. ie what do I type where!


Thank-you.

Andrew, Oxford(UK)

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Re: 32-->36?

2022-07-31 Thread Barry


> On 31 Jul 2022, at 02:35, Tim via users  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 2022-07-30 at 20:01 -0400, Tom Horsley wrote:
>> My approach would be to start from scratch on a new disk (or at least
>> a new partition) and install anything needed to get the same
>> configuration working.
> 
> Likewise.  I gave up upgrading long ago, it's one of those "in theory"
> things that often doesn't go according to plan.  Long term installs
> over the top often end up with conflicts, and a mess of increasing
> things collecting over time.

My experience with upgrade is tha it works very well.
All the issues I have seen I would also have seen on a new install.
I use fedora server and fedora KDE on 6 machines ranging from
Server to laptop to desktop and some vm.

> 
>> Although why anyone would want to use fedora for a long term server
>> is a separate question :-). (CentOS or Ubuntu LTS comes to mind).

Even rhel 9 seems old to me.

At work we are going to rhel 8 and that is ancient to me.

Barry

> 
> I'd agree with that too, though it seems CentOS is moving themselves
> out of that position.  CentOS 7 lasts 'til mid-2024, CentOS 8 lasts
> until the end of 2022, there won't be a CentOS9.
> 
> CentOS Stream is
> becoming a RHEL preview, somewhere between RHEL and Fedora.  I can't
> find the quote now (it was on their own website), but they were
> recommending people don't use it as a long-term server solution.
> 
> Constantly planning for needing to upgrade your mail server, and when,
> for example, is not my idea of fun.  More so for complicated databases.
> 
> -- 
> 
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> Linux 3.10.0-1160.71.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 28 15:37:28 UTC 2022 x86_64
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