Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/9/22 16:10, Tim via users wrote: Are you supposed to remember which epson printer is which without any clues? Are they both going to get the same name? Will they self- modify one of their names? Will they always be the same ones in the same order? I despise things that make me play guessing games. You can set a description for the printer that it will broadcast in the mdns advertisement packets. CUPS will show that when you go to print. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Is there an equivalent to 40_custom with EFI boot?
Michael D. Setzer II composed on 2022-12-10 15:28 (UTC+1000):
> Wondering if possible to add non-Fedora options to EFI boot menu with some
> method similar to the 40_Custom. Thanks.
...
> Also have this to run memtest since regular Fedora one doesn't seem to work??
> title memtest
> find --set-root /memtest86+-5.31b.iso
> #Uses memdisk from syslinux 6.04pre1
> kernel /memdisk iso
> initrd /memtest86+-5.31b.iso
memtest86+ I've never tried on UEFI. For UEFI I use memtest86, and in
/boot/grub2/custom.cfg to run it I have this head:
menuentry "memtest86 8.3 EFI" {
search --no-floppy --label --set=root PNY5P01ESP
chainloader /mt83x64.efi
}
/boot/grub2/custom.cfg is utilized as a consequence of my customization of
/etc/grub.d/, which quite simply moves the content of 40_custom to 06_custom,
leaving 40_custom empty.
/boot/grub2/custom.cfg contains all the boot stanzas I routinely use on UEFI, as
grub2-mkconfig places all custom.cfg stanzas ahead of its own auto-generated
ones
in grub.cfg as a consequence of 06_custom content.
IOW, NAICT, 40_custom in grub2-efi works no differently with UEFI than in grub2
legacy booting.
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Is there an equivalent to 40_custom with EFI boot?
Wondering if possible to add non-Fedora options to EFI boot menu with some
method similar to the 40_Custom. Thanks.
I've maintained a project on Sourceforge going back to 2004, and it was
originally a cd only boot option, but over years create usb and ability to boot
directly from grub2 menu using 40_custom.
Few years ago, created EFI boot options that work with cd and usb using
grub4dos and grub4dosefi as boot loaders. Have looked for a process similar to
40_custom for EFI, but have not located anything.
The 40_custom is very simple.
# !/bin/sh
exec tail -n +3 $0
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
menuentry G4L_Version_0.62_video_800x600 {
set gfxpayload=800x600x16,800x600
linux /bz6x0.12 root=/dev/ram0 telnetd=yes
initrd /ramdisk.lzma
}
Has the kernal file and ramdisk.lzma in the /boot directory and loads program
directly from grub2 boot menu.
With grub4dos regular boot the menu has this for booting.
title G4L - bz6x0.12 - with vga=788
find --set-root /linux/bz6x0.12
kernel /linux/bz6x0.12 root=/dev/ram0 vga=788 telnetd=yes
initrd /linux/ramdisk.lzma
Also have this to run memtest since regular Fedora one doesn't seem to work??
title memtest
find --set-root /memtest86+-5.31b.iso
#Uses memdisk from syslinux 6.04pre1
kernel /memdisk iso
initrd /memtest86+-5.31b.iso
In the EFI/grub/menu.list have to boot. memtest doesn't work with the EFI boot
so no option for that.
title G4L - bz6x0.12 - Version 0.62 Default Screen Resolution
find --set-root /linux/bz6x0.12
kernel /linux/bz6x0.12 root=/dev/ram0 telnetd=yes
initrd /linux/ramdisk.lzma
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Re: where did all of these *$!#!! icons come form
On Thu, 8 Dec 2022 18:00:36 -0600 Dave Ulrick wrote: > On 12/8/22 3:28 PM, Steven Usdansky via users wrote: > > Just a guess: you're displaying $HOME instead of $HOME/Desktop. > > Check ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs > > Also, to remove all icons from the XFCE desktop, open: > > Settings / Desktop / Icons > > and select 'None' from the Icon type menu. > > Dave Splendid! Thanks. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Cockpit as root
On 12/9/22 11:07 AM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 12/09/2022 10:50 AM, Emmett Culley via users wrote: Yes, I can see root log in disabled by default. How to I enable root login? Root login is disabled because the account doesn't have a password. You can give it one during install, but it isn't required, so most people never realize that they can do that. As I prefer su to sudo, I always do. To correct that without reinstalling, run this: sudo passwd which will you to change (or in this case set) the root password. Once that's done you, and anybody else who knows it can become root. I log in to that workstation many times each day as root. I always create a root password when I create a new machine. I am asking how do I enable root login for cockpit. I do not want to use sudo. I suppose it may be a KDE plasma issue as I see "Fedora Linux KDE Plasma" in the header of the login dialog. So how do I enable login to plasma as root? This particular server is the first time I used Fedora instead of CentOS or some other Red Hat derivative. This server was actually first created with Fedora 28, and I just converted it to use as a gateway after upgrading to Fedora 36 (via 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34 and 35. Before this I rarely logged into plasma as root, but on occasion I did, and is was successful, then. What has changed and how do I fix it? Emmett ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
Tim via users writes: Previously, yours was: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname Which first tries the hosts file, then mdns, then aborts if nothing found (I believe, going by the comments in the rest of the file). The My read of nsswitch.conf's man page is that [NOTFOUND=return] applies to the previous resolver's query's results only. Capsule summary: a resolver returns either: "found", "not found", or "don't know". mdns is supposed to resolve .local domains. Therefore this resolver would return "don't know" for regular domain names, but if it's a lookup for .local and it can't resolve it you'll get "not found". The general idea is that if a .local lookup fails don't even bother doing DNS queries for that. Which does that makes. Now, why this would be broken, that's a different story. pgpLfYRsl2OQV.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 10:40:34 +1030 Tim via users wrote: > Which first tries the hosts file, then mdns, then aborts if nothing > found (I believe, going by the comments in the rest of the file). The > list of things in that line is illogical, to me. Why would have have > two more things listed after an abort? (Doing a DNS query, and I'm not > sure what the last one, "myhostname" does.) I don't remember which fedora that abort nonsense first showed up in but none of my systems ever worked properly unless I removed it. I always wondered how it got to be the default when no name lookup ever worked on any system that was configured that way. You'd think someone would notice. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
Tim via users wrote: >> Can you edit the "hosts:" line in the nsswitch.conf file? See if >> simplifying it helps? >> >> e.g. hosts: files dns >> >> Are you able to restart the network connection? Joe Zeff: > Done! After the edit, I disabled/enabled Networking. That did it. Not > sure why, but I'm not complaining. Thanx! The /etc/nsswitch.conf file sets, amongst other things, how names will be resolved. With that shortened version it looks to see if you have written the address into the /etc/hosts file, and then does a DNS query if the hosts file doesn't provide an answer. Previously, yours was: hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname Which first tries the hosts file, then mdns, then aborts if nothing found (I believe, going by the comments in the rest of the file). The list of things in that line is illogical, to me. Why would have have two more things listed after an abort? (Doing a DNS query, and I'm not sure what the last one, "myhostname" does.) If you do use mdns on your LAN, try putting it back in but without the [NOTFOUND=return] parameter, and see what good that does you. mdns is that avahi/zeroconf/autoconf that resolves the local machine names that they self-identify as, with a .local top level domain. e.g. This PC's hostname is "rocky", it can announce itself as "rocky.local", and other machines on my LAN will/may find it. It's adhoc, and very much self-mismanaging, in my opinion. Though it is used for automatic discover of things like printers, media players, network storage devices, etc, which could be useful. But how does it handle you having two identical models of printer on a LAN? How would you know which one was upstairs or downstairs, for instance, if they all just automatically named themselves without your intervention? Are you supposed to remember which epson printer is which without any clues? Are they both going to get the same name? Will they self- modify one of their names? Will they always be the same ones in the same order? I despise things that make me play guessing games. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 04:26 PM, Tim via users wrote: Can you edit the "hosts:" line in the nsswitch.conf file? See if simplifying it helps? e.g. hosts: files dns Are you able to restart the network connection? Done! After the edit, I disabled/enabled Networking. That did it. Not sure why, but I'm not complaining. Thanx! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
Tim: >> It is resolving. It looks like you're having a web browser issue (not >> connecting, or something jamming in the cache). I'm guessing you've >> restarted your browsing during this situation. But have you tried >> flushing its cache, too? You can flush the cache without destroying >> saved logins, history, etc. Joe Zeff: > Testing in a terminal, nslookup and ping both fail. I also have > seamonkey installed and it can't find the site either. Hmm, okay then that must be dig directly querying the external servers and other things doing something with your system in the middle. Still a useful test, shows that name resolution *can* work. Can you edit the "hosts:" line in the nsswitch.conf file? See if simplifying it helps? e.g. hosts: files dns Are you able to restart the network connection? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/9/22 15:35, Tim via users wrote: It is resolving. It looks like you're having a web browser issue (not connecting, or something jamming in the cache). I'm guessing you've restarted your browsing during this situation. But have you tried flushing its cache, too? You can flush the cache without destroying saved logins, history, etc. Testing in a terminal, nslookup and ping both fail. I also have seamonkey installed and it can't find the site either. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/9/22 15:26, Jeffrey Walton wrote: The reasons are your own. But it's irrelevant given that you told us: I'm planning to reinstall with 37 very soon.[1] Even so, I'd like to get it corrected instead of just giving up until I upgrade. And, it will be a learning experience. Even at 73, I'm still interested in learning new things. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
Joe Zeff: > [joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf > # Generated by NetworkManager > search zeff.us > nameserver 8.8.8.8 > nameserver 8.8.4.4 Looks normal. I'd expect the google DNS servers to be working well. > [joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf > # > # /etc/nsswitch.conf > # > # An example Name Service Switch config file. This file should be > # sorted with the most-used services at the beginning. > # > # The entry '[NOTFOUND=return]' means that the search for an > # entry should stop if the search in the previous entry turned > # up nothing. Note that if the search failed due to some other reason > # (like no NIS server responding) then the search continues with the > # next entry. > > #hosts: db files nisplus nis dns > hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname > It seems to me that having an abort function in the middle of the list of things to check, rather than at the end, might be a cause of grief. I've never understood why some are configured that way. You could try modifying that line. On my ye olde CentOS 7 and Fedora 36, mine just has hosts: files dns (I don't make use of mdns/zeroconf/automangle) The "files" option means to check the /etc/hosts file, which is typically just used for the localhost addresses, now. [tim@rocky ~]$ cat /etc/hosts 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 ::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6 > [joe@khorlia ~]$ dig slashdot.org > > > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > slashdot.org. 300 IN A 104.18.28.86 > slashdot.org. 300 IN A 104.18.29.86 Same as me, so DNS queries are being answered correctly, by the Google DNS servers: > ;; Query time: 109 msec > ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) You could see if doing "dig slashdot.org @8.8.8.8" gets the same results as "dig slashdot.org @8.8.4.4" (they do, here). It is resolving. It looks like you're having a web browser issue (not connecting, or something jamming in the cache). I'm guessing you've restarted your browsing during this situation. But have you tried flushing its cache, too? You can flush the cache without destroying saved logins, history, etc. Do you use one of those HTTPS-only plug-ins? Do you get different results for attempting http://slashdot.org/ versus https://slashdot.org ? Do you have more than one browser installed on the problem machine? Can you try installing another one, even if just temporarily? -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 5:18 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 12/09/2022 02:59 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > Yes, this. > > Do you know why I haven't upgraded before this? If not, you're not in a > position to decide when or if I upgrade. The reasons are your own. But it's irrelevant given that you told us: I'm planning to reinstall with 37 very soon.[1] [1] https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/2CZW3WK4GIRSE3QOXTWGM4W6HA4CSBRJ/ Jeff ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 02:59 PM, Jeffrey Walton wrote: Yes, this. Do you know why I haven't upgraded before this? If not, you're not in a position to decide when or if I upgrade. As I've said before, I will as soon as it's practical. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 02:52 PM, Jonathan Billings wrote: There is no point debugging it any further. Upgrade your OS. When I can, I will, but it's not your place to give me orders. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 4:53 PM Jonathan Billings wrote: > > On Dec 9, 2022, at 15:55, Joe Zeff wrote: > > Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention that for > > various reasons this box is still running F 25, although I'm planning to > > reinstall with 37 very soon. > > You are running an OS that hasn’t seen any updates since 2017 (the 5 year > anniversary for end of support is coming up on the 12th.) I’m amazed it > even works with modern web sites. > > There is no point debugging it any further. Upgrade your OS. Yes, this. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Dec 9, 2022, at 15:55, Joe Zeff wrote: > Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention that for > various reasons this box is still running F 25, although I'm planning to > reinstall with 37 very soon. You are running an OS that hasn’t seen any updates since 2017 (the 5 year anniversary for end of support is coming up on the 12th.) I’m amazed it even works with modern web sites. There is no point debugging it any further. Upgrade your OS. -- Jonathan Billings ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 02:38 PM, Tim via users wrote: What's in your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf files? [joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/resolv.conf # Generated by NetworkManager search zeff.us nameserver 8.8.8.8 nameserver 8.8.4.4 [joe@khorlia ~]$ cat /etc/nsswitch.conf # # /etc/nsswitch.conf # # An example Name Service Switch config file. This file should be # sorted with the most-used services at the beginning. # # The entry '[NOTFOUND=return]' means that the search for an # entry should stop if the search in the previous entry turned # up nothing. Note that if the search failed due to some other reason # (like no NIS server responding) then the search continues with the # next entry. # # Valid entries include: # # nisplus Use NIS+ (NIS version 3) # nis Use NIS (NIS version 2), also called YP # dns Use DNS (Domain Name Service) # files Use the local files # db Use the local database (.db) files # compat Use NIS on compat mode # hesiod Use Hesiod for user lookups # [NOTFOUND=return] Stop searching if not found so far # # To use db, put the "db" in front of "files" for entries you want to be # looked up first in the databases # # Example: #passwd:db files nisplus nis #shadow:db files nisplus nis #group: db files nisplus nis passwd: files sss shadow: files sss group: files sss #hosts: db files nisplus nis dns hosts: files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns myhostname # Example - obey only what nisplus tells us... #services: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files #networks: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files #protocols: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files #rpc:nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files #ethers: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files #netmasks: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files bootparams: nisplus [NOTFOUND=return] files ethers: files netmasks: files networks: files protocols: files rpc:files services: files sss netgroup: files sss publickey: nisplus automount: files sss aliases:files nisplus [joe@khorlia ~]$ Do you have the "dig" tool installed, what results does it return (and in comparison to your other "working okay" machines)? [joe@khorlia ~]$ dig slashdot.org ; <<>> DiG 9.10.5-P2-RedHat-9.10.5-2.P2.fc25 <<>> slashdot.org ;; global options: +cmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 50703 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1 ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION: ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 512 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;slashdot.org. IN A ;; ANSWER SECTION: slashdot.org. 300 IN A 104.18.28.86 slashdot.org. 300 IN A 104.18.29.86 ;; Query time: 109 msec ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) ;; WHEN: Fri Dec 09 14:45:42 MST 2022 ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 73 The only "machine" I've tested on is my phone's browser, and it works fine. If you want, I can fire up my laptop and see what it does, but the fact that my phone can find slashdot strongly suggests that the issue is on this box only. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 16:21 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote: > If you reinstalled, but kept your existing home partition, you may have > systemd "user" services disabled or masked that pipewire requires. > > One way to check this is to create a brand new user, login as new > user and see if (with all the default for new user) sound works. > If so, then all you have to do is figure out what the relevant difference > is (good luck :-). Probably try shifting this directory out of the way and see what it does: ~/.config/pulse/ And there may be some pulse runtime files in /tmp that need removing. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 13:54 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > I should mention that for various reasons this box is still running F 25 Yes. That would have helped. What's in your /etc/resolv.conf and /etc/nsswitch.conf files? Do you have the "dig" tool installed, what results does it return (and in comparison to your other "working okay" machines)? Likewise for "nslookup" or "host" command queries for slashdot.org? Are your other devices using the same DNS server? What DNS server are you using? Your ISP's, one running on your PC, one on the WWW? My dig query returned these answers: slashdot.org. 157 IN A 104.18.29.86 slashdot.org. 157 IN A 104.18.28.86 And nslookup the same: [tim@rocky ~]$ nslookup slashdot.org Server: 127.0.0.1 Address:127.0.0.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: Name: slashdot.org Address: 104.18.28.86 Name: slashdot.org Address: 104.18.29.86 Perhaps one of those servers is being used by one of your computers, and another is using the other, and one is inaccessible to you? And, yes, slashdot.org does load in my web browser, here. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.80.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Tue Nov 8 15:48:59 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 02:13 PM, José María Terry Jiménez wrote: Yes, it won't work in F25. Not guessing you used a so old release. This works for > F33 or something I think that I started out by stating that I was stuck on 25, but planning to upgrade RSN, because I know that Things Have Changed, and hoped that people would at least try to give suggestions that wouldn't work on my system. And, if you didn't know that I was still on 25, why did your suggestion state that you don't know if it would work on 25? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
I tidbit I remember encountering with pipewire: If you reinstalled, but kept your existing home partition, you may have systemd "user" services disabled or masked that pipewire requires. One way to check this is to create a brand new user, login as new user and see if (with all the default for new user) sound works. If so, then all you have to do is figure out what the relevant difference is (good luck :-). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 02:06 PM, Terry Polzin wrote: So in F36, dnf whatprovides */resolvectl I don't know about F25. As I'm running F25, not F36, how is this possibly relevant? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
El 9/12/22 a las 21:54, Joe Zeff escribió: On 12/09/2022 12:58 PM, Jose Maria Terry Jimenez wrote: Did you tried? resolvectl flush-caches You can check dns cache size with: resolvectl statistics Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention that for various reasons this box is still running F 25, although I'm planning to reinstall with 37 very soon. Yes, it won't work in F25. Not guessing you used a so old release. This works for > F33 or something ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
So in F36, dnf whatprovides */resolvectl systemd-250.3-8.fc36.i686 : System and Service Manager Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/bin/resolvectl Filename: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/resolvectl systemd-250.3-8.fc36.x86_64 : System and Service Manager Repo: fedora Matched from: Filename: /usr/bin/resolvectl Filename: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/resolvectl systemd-250.8-1.fc36.i686 : System and Service Manager Repo: updates Matched from: Filename: /usr/bin/resolvectl Filename: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/resolvectl systemd-250.8-1.fc36.x86_64 : System and Service Manager Repo: @System Matched from: Filename: /usr/bin/resolvectl Filename: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/resolvectl systemd-250.8-1.fc36.x86_64 : System and Service Manager Repo: updates Matched from: Filename: /usr/bin/resolvectl Filename: /usr/share/bash-completion/completions/resolvectl I don't know about F25. On Fri, Dec 9, 2022 at 4:00 PM Joe Zeff wrote: > On 12/09/2022 01:48 PM, Tim via users wrote: > > Is there anything useful in here: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved#Caching > > No. It's a very short paragraph followed by a large one dealing with > VPN issues which aren't relevant for me. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 01:48 PM, Tim via users wrote: Is there anything useful in here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved#Caching No. It's a very short paragraph followed by a large one dealing with VPN issues which aren't relevant for me. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On 12/09/2022 12:58 PM, Jose Maria Terry Jimenez wrote: Did you tried? resolvectl flush-caches You can check dns cache size with: resolvectl statistics Command not found, and dnf can't find it either. I should mention that for various reasons this box is still running F 25, although I'm planning to reinstall with 37 very soon. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve > slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can. I'm presuming that > there's something wrong with my DNS, so I'm trying to clear its cache, > but I can't find instructions on how to do this without rebooting. > Suggestions? > Is there anything useful in here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/systemd-resolved#Caching -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Fri, 2022-12-09 at 12:47 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote: > Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve > slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can. Is it the browser, or whole system, that can't resolve it? The dig or nslookup commands will be using the OS to resolve the addresses. A web browser can internally cache results, and will sometimes get stuck with cached data that requires you to restart the browser to purge it. You could try querying some likely sub-domains to see if you get any answer (www.slashdot.org, mail.slashdot.org, etc). -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
Stephen Morris: >>> Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio >>> muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net >>> there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get >>> pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not >>> exactly stable. Tim: >> It does on my Fedora 36 installation, without me doing anything. I >> did a default fresh install, and this's what it installed, I didn't >> do any customisation of audio: It has pipepire and wireplumber, >> there's no pulseaudio. Stephen Morris: > I've just gotten back on after a fresh install, because I tried a > suggestion in an earlier thread to remove packages by passing > dependencies and removed pulseaudio and after doing that and rebooting > both Gnome and KDE refused to start. > I installed F36 from a live cd and it installed both pipewire and > pulseaudio and configured the system to use pulseaudio, and youtube > videos play properly with sound. I should add my (fresh) install was a MATE-Compiz spin, with no other desktop systems installed. So we may have different defaults. [tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pulse\* pulseaudio-libs-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-glib2-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pulseaudio-utils-15.0-5.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 [tim@fluffy ~]$ rpm -qa \*pipe\* libpipeline-1.5.5-2.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-codec-aptx-0.3.59-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-libs-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-jack-audio-connection-kit-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-alsa-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-gstreamer-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-pulseaudio-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 pipewire-utils-0.3.61-1.fc36.x86_64 I'm inclined to say if you've got a working system, then don't try swapping pulseaudio for pipewire, or vice versa. Stick with a working system. I wonder if your prior research showing pipewire needed lots of configuration was to do with people using it like jack? So they can plumb *this* through *that* for special purposes. I had a brief dabble with that trying several different audio recording software programs and gave up for it being hideously complex and ill-explained. I work in audio-video production, and patching hardware into extremely complex combinations is something I'm well used to (since the 1990s). But I find the computing fraternity's attempts to do similar things always terribly mangled. Audio workstations are a nightmare. Way too much like the old domestic Tascam 4 channel cassette decks with people submixing and overdubbing all over the place to cope with its lack of enough tracks, and its oddball input channels configuration. So I don't go much past Audacity, and manual editing that's not all that far removed from 1/4" tape-editing with tape and razor blades. -- NB: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the list. The following system info data is generated fresh for each post: uname -rsvp Linux 6.0.10-200.fc36.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat Nov 26 16:53:11 UTC 2022 x86_64 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
On Fri, 9 Dec 2022 12:47:14 -0700 Joe Zeff wrote: > Suggestions? I've been there, the main problem is there are something like a dozen different services which may or may not be cacheing DNS information, and you have to figure out which ones are running and lookup how to make that one clear its cache, then do the same for all the others. nscd, systemd-resolved, dnsmasq, bind are just the ones I've run into before that I can remember, I think there are others as well. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
El 9/12/22 a las 20:47, Joe Zeff escribió: Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can. I'm presuming that there's something wrong with my DNS, so I'm trying to clear its cache, but I can't find instructions on how to do this without rebooting. Suggestions? ___ Did you tried? resolvectl flush-caches You can check dns cache size with: resolvectl statistics ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Clearing DNS cache without rebooting
Ever since last night, my desktop has been unable to resolve slashdot.org, but other computers on my LAN can. I'm presuming that there's something wrong with my DNS, so I'm trying to clear its cache, but I can't find instructions on how to do this without rebooting. Suggestions? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Cockpit as root
On 12/09/2022 10:50 AM, Emmett Culley via users wrote: Yes, I can see root log in disabled by default. How to I enable root login? Root login is disabled because the account doesn't have a password. You can give it one during install, but it isn't required, so most people never realize that they can do that. As I prefer su to sudo, I always do. To correct that without reinstalling, run this: sudo passwd which will you to change (or in this case set) the root password. Once that's done you, and anybody else who knows it can become root. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Cockpit as root
On 12/9/22 9:19 AM, Peter Boy wrote: Am 09.12.2022 um 17:47 schrieb Emmett Culley via users : I am not able to login to cockpit, localhost:9090, as root. I can login as a normal user, but that isn't acceptable. Why would I even need cockpit as a normal user? By default, the root login is blocked. Therefore, you login as a user and then acquire administrative privileges. (Button center at the top) you must use an user account with sudo privileges, i.e. member of group wheel. Yes, I can see root log in disabled by default. How to I enable root login? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Cockpit as root
> Am 09.12.2022 um 17:47 schrieb Emmett Culley via users > : > > I am not able to login to cockpit, localhost:9090, as root. I can login as a > normal user, but that isn't acceptable. Why would I even need cockpit as a > normal user? By default, the root login is blocked. Therefore, you login as a user and then acquire administrative privileges. (Button center at the top) you must use an user account with sudo privileges, i.e. member of group wheel. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Cockpit as root
I am not able to login to cockpit, localhost:9090, as root. I can login as a normal user, but that isn't acceptable. Why would I even need cockpit as a normal user? I have a fully updated Fedora instance. It may be related somehow to plasma as at the top of the login dialog I see "Fedora Linux KDE Plasma". I suppose there is a configuration option to allow root logins. Note that sudo is not an option I am interested in using. Emmett ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
You have repeated many times that removing pulseaudio would remove gnome-shell. Suggested workarounds have been 'rpm -e --nodeps pulseaudio' followed by 'dnf install pipewire' and the perhaps more mainstream 'dnf swap pipewire pulseaudio --allowerasing' Any comment? John P ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On 6/12/22 10:10, John Pilkington wrote: On 05/12/2022 22:31, Stephen Morris wrote: On 2/12/22 21:47, Tim via users wrote: On Fri, 2022-12-02 at 19:45 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: I've disabled the pipewire service and the wireplumber service, but I still get issues where some videos will play and when I go to play the next video it won't play without me switching my device between analogue and digital, in which case it then plays. I'm also getting an issue at the moment where pulse manager keeps crashing. I might try a reinstall of all pulseaudio packages if I can, and see if that improves things. I can't uninstall either application as uninstallation of both applications want to uninstall Gnome Shell which is protected from uninstalling. There's that dnf swap command which is supposed to take care of replacing one package with the other. It ought to avoid the system wanting to remove Gnome. e.g. dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire (or something very much like that). Considering pulseaudio is being deprecated, maybe you should try seeing if pipewire works better for you. I also tried "sudo dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire" and that failed because of a number of pulsaudio-module packages causing conflicts, which I removed each time the command failed, until it got to a conflict on pulseaudio-module-bluetooth which cannot be removed because it wants to remove gnome-shell. Pipewire also has an equivalent module that wants to remove gnome-shell if it is uninstalled, so it looks like both packages have been deliberately designed to not be able to be removed because of gnome-shell. A remove of gnome-shell has been banned from being allowed to happen. regards, Steve I have not tried it in this context, and don't know if it carries risks, but maybe sudo rpm -e --nodeps pulseaudio followed by sudo dnf install pipewire would avoid that problem? I tried that to remove pulseaudio and after reboot both Gnome and KDE refused to start. I did a reinstall of F36 from a live cd and that process installed both pulseaudio and pipewire and set up the sound interface to use pulseaudio, but youtube videos played without issue. Given both pulseaudio and pipewire were installed I tried dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire and that failed on the grounds that pulseaudio couldn't be removed because it would remove gnome-shell. I then upgraded to F37, but that stuffed my system up (every time I tried to anything on the desktop the entire desktop would flash), so I had to redo the F36 and F37 installs, fortunately after the second set of installs everything was fine and the videos still continued to play with audio. regards, Steve John P ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On 7/12/22 16:27, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/6/22 14:03, Stephen Morris wrote: On 6/12/22 11:02, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/5/22 14:19, Stephen Morris wrote: I tried replacing pipewire with pulseaudio by issuing "sudo dnf swap pipewire pulseaudio" but that failed because package "mutter" requires pipewire, I have no idea what that is, and mutter can't be uninstalled because it wants to uninstall "gnome-shell" which is not allowed. "mutter" is basically the rendering engine for "gnome-shell" which explains the dependencies. pulseaudio is deprecated now, pipewire is what should be used going forward. Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not exactly stable. Clearly pipewire *is* working for the vast majority of people with no configuration required. I didn't even notice the transition. If you look online, you are most likely going to find the people that are having trouble because all the ones that are working have no reason to post. And often the reason it's not working is because of messing with the configs. I also can't remove pulseaudio because pulseaudio-module-bluetooth want to remove Gnome-shell. Considering that I have gnome-shell installed without that package, it's not actually required. You need to look at the dependency messages to see what's causing the problem. The message was "pulseaudio-module-bluetooth can't be removed because it would remove protected package gnome-shell". The equivalent package in pipewire had exactly the same issue. I've just gotten back on after a fresh install, because I tried a suggestion in an earlier thread to remove packages by passing dependencies and removed pulseaudio and after doing that and rebooting both Gnome and KDE refused to start. I installed F36 from a live cd and it installed both pipewire and pulseaudio and configured the system to use pulseaudio, and youtube videos play properly with sound. After installing F36 I tried using dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire, but that refused to proceed complaining pulseaudio couldn't be replaced by pipewire because that process wanted to uninstall gnome-shell. I've upgraded to F37 and the youtube videos are still playing properly, I haven't verified yet whether pulseaudio is still installed, but I'm assuming it is given the gnome-shell issue. I had to do the F36 and upgrade to F37 twice because the first upgrade to F37 destroyed my system. After the first upgrade every time I didn't anything on the desktop everything would flash. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On 7/12/22 15:35, Tim via users wrote: On Wed, 2022-12-07 at 09:03 +1100, Stephen Morris wrote: Pipewire doesn't work. It was videos not playing without audio muted that started this thread. And from what I've seen on the net there is potentially a lot of manual configuration required to get pipewire to work, so my view on what I'm seeing is pipewire is not exactly stable. I also can't remove pulseaudio because pulseaudio-module-bluetooth want to remove Gnome-shell. It does on my Fedora 36 installation, without me doing anything. I did a default fresh install, and this's what it installed, I didn't do any customisation of audio: It has pipepire and wireplumber, there's no pulseaudio. I haven't tried swapping or having two conflicting things together. I'm yet to try Fedora 37. I do have an issue where the volume control applet (MATE) keeps crashing, but it reloads and audio is still playing before, during, and after. The crashing is a recent thing, in the last few weeks. I hadn't had it before then. So I'm inclined to say it does "work," but there's some aspect of it that's a problem with your system. Possibly because you did an upgrade install you've inherited a conflict. I stopped doing them years ago because of that kind of thing (amongst other upgrade problems - like it taking an age to work out what packages to install, me spending ages managing choice conflicts, very slow installs, lots of config debugging, etc). I've noted throughout your thread that you also have problems with pulseaudio, and getting youtube videos to even start playing (here, they'll play even without any audio hardware enabled). So, it sounds like you have quite a few conflicts. Do you have a spare hard drive that you can try a fresh install to, with your usual drive unplugged? Or can you try running a live disc? I've just gotten back on after a fresh install, because I tried a suggestion in an earlier thread to remove packages by passing dependencies and removed pulseaudio and after doing that and rebooting both Gnome and KDE refused to start. I installed F36 from a live cd and it installed both pipewire and pulseaudio and configured the system to use pulseaudio, and youtube videos play properly with sound. After installing F36 I tried using dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire, but that refused to proceed complaining pulseaudio couldn't be replaced by pipewire because that process wanted to uninstall gnome-shell. I've upgraded to F37 and the youtube videos are still playing properly, I haven't verified yet whether pulseaudio is still installed, but I'm assuming it is given the gnome-shell issue. I had to do the F36 and upgrade to F37 twice because the first upgrade to F37 destroyed my system. After the first upgrade every time I didn't anything on the desktop everything would flash. regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
