follow-up - Re: where to submit a bug against "xv"? [SOLVED]

[home user]

(on March 27, 2023, Jeffrey Walton wrote)

> This looks like as good a site as any:
> https://github.com/jasper-software/xv  
. According to the GitHub README:
>
> The creator of this GitHub repository (Michael Adams) would like to thank
> John Bradley for giving his blessing for a public Git repository for the
> XV software. It is hoped that this repository will allow the ongoing
> support and maintenance of the XV software to be done more easily.

Jeff is correct.  And GitHub's "jasper-software" team has now upgraded xv to handle 
"webp" images.  You can read the details here:
"https://github.com/jasper-software/xv;.
The discussion of the upgrade is in issue #7, which is here:
"https://github.com/jasper-software/xv/issues/7;.

The upgrade has been incorporated into the RPM Fusion Nonfree repository in 
response to bug #6702
"https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6702;.
The new xv is in release 4.1.1-1.

(on March 18, 2023, George White wrote)
> (on March 17, 2023, I wrote)
> > Now and recently my "plate" is overflowing.  I'll try those commands
> > when things come off my plate faster than things are added to my plate!
>
> Good luck with that (and if you figure out how to make it work, let us know)!
> I thought retirement would help -- it didn't.

That's also my experience.
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Re: grub2-mkconfig Strange Message

[Stephen Morris]

On 12/6/23 05:24, George N. White III wrote:
On Fri, Jun 9, 2023 at 9:54 PM Stephen Morris 
 wrote:


Hi,
    I have just used dnf to put on the currently available
maintenance in F38, having not put any on for a week or so, after
upgrading from F37 via dnf system-upgrade a couple of weeks ago.
    After putting on the maintenance I used grub2-mkconfig to
build the grub.cfg file and got the message below after it
notified of finding the linux kernels, does anyone know what this
means and why they are being produced from the released version of
grub2-mkconfig, the process I ran after the maintenance I put on a
week or so ago did not produce these messages?

fgrep: warning: fgrep is obsolescent; using grep -F


 /usr/sbin/grub2-mkconfig --help
[...]
Report bugs to .

I haven't seen this warning since before COVID. There are lots of 
grub2-X scripts, it would be useful to identify the culprit.

Maybe replace the current fgrep script with one that prints more details.
The last update I did was the first time I have ever seen this message. 
Why are the grub maintainers not updating their scripts to avoid this?


regards,
Steve



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Re: grub2-mkconfig Strange Message

[Stephen Morris]

On 10/6/23 11:11, Tom Horsley wrote:

On Sat, 10 Jun 2023 10:53:58 +1000
Stephen Morris wrote:


fgrep: warning: fgrep is obsolescent; using grep -F

It means OCD linux geeks have decided they ought to remove an option used
for decades in uncounted thousands of shell scripts because they don't
like it. They've done the same with egrep and uname.

Here's my "big hammer" fix including the scripts I use to put back
the old behavior:

https://tomhorsley.com/game/Mjolnir.html

Thanks Tom, I'll have a look at that and see what I can do.

regards,
Steve

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Re: simple scan default printer?

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 6/12/23 23:00, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Fedora 37
simple-scan-42.5-1.fc37.x86_64

Any way to get Simple Scan to default to a
different printer?  Right now it defaults
to "Print to LPR"

Many thanks,
-T


If it helps, I had CUSS (Common Unix Scanning
System) -- also known as SANE -- configured to
print to LPR.  And that was the only program
I had configured this way.

I have since removed CUSS.  Simple Scan is
just too much easier to use and it works well.

-T

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Re: avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

[George N. White III]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 10:23 AM Tom Horsley  wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 07:55:10 -0400
> Neal Becker wrote:
>
> > https://www.phoronix.com/news/Avoid-Nouveau-Linux-6.3
>
> I give nouveau a chance every time I install a new fedora, eventually
> (2 hours, 2 weeks, it varies) I get a video crash and frozen
> desktop, then I install the rpmfusion nvidia drivers.
>
> I don't remember how many releases ago nouveau was actually
> reliable.
>

You can't expect perfection from reverse engineering, but open source
means you get the benefit of "given* enough* eyeballs, all bugs are
shallow".

The previous problem I had was about a year ago caused by a simple mistake.
A patch was already available by the time I encountered the problem.  The
current issue has been difficult to pin down.

>From https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/drm/nouveau/-/issues/213: 2 weeks ago:

A post at
https://lore.kernel.org/nouveau/CACrD=+-duomkwxe0x5m5vmfs_jijjpgnqvxuq+qimie99vm...@mail.gmail.com/
has what seems to be a very plausible explanation for the cause of the
problem,
identifies and analyzes the source code responsible, and provides patches
inline
and via links. Can these be reviewed and if acceptable merged into the
project?

This doesn't solve the issue, but today Dave Airlie posted:

0001-nouveau-fix-client-work-fence-deletion-race.patch
:
"This seems to have existed for ever but is now more apparant[SIC]"
It is sad how many people switch to proprietary drivers or change distros
rather than
helping pin down the conditions that trigger a bug and then helping test
proposed fixes.

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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

[Jon LaBadie]

Seems like a "loginchart" analogous to "bootchart" would be
useful for situations like this.

jl

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 09:40:49PM +0930, Tim via users wrote:

On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 15:38 +0200, ogio.spam wrote:

I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not showing 
this behaviour.


Does that user use network shares?  (For their homespace, or for
something within it.)

Does the login restore the previous session, and is waiting for an
application to respond?



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Re: avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

[Francis . Montagnac]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 10:00:20 -0400 Tom Horsley wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 08:45:38 -0500
> Richard Shaw wrote:

>> Yeah the akmods MOSTLY worked fine.

> I never had any problems as long as I waited for the module build
> to finish after installing new kernel before I rebooted.

+1 but I suggested recently a "bad hack" to fix that:

  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120#c21

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Re: avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 08:45:38 -0500
Richard Shaw wrote:

> Yeah the akmods MOSTLY worked fine.

I never had any problems as long as I waited for the module build
to finish after installing new kernel before I rebooted.

tail -f /var/log/akmods/akmods.log
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:25:23 -0400
Tom Horsley wrote:

> systemctl --user --list-unit-files

Wups, list-unit-files (no -- in front of it).
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Re: avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

[Richard Shaw]

On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 8:23 AM Tom Horsley  wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 07:55:10 -0400
> Neal Becker wrote:
>
> > https://www.phoronix.com/news/Avoid-Nouveau-Linux-6.3
>
> I give nouveau a chance every time I install a new fedora, eventually
> (2 hours, 2 weeks, it varies) I get a video crash and frozen
> desktop, then I install the rpmfusion nvidia drivers.
>

Yeah the akmods MOSTLY worked fine. Sometimes I would have to rm -f the
package and let it rebuild for some reason and occasionally builds would
fail. Not a good end user experience especially if you're not that
technical.

I switched to AMD and for the most part it's just "worked".  Previously
with a RX580 and now with a RX 6550XT.

Other than the crazy graphics card prices, I have no regrets and have no
plans to switch back.

Thanks,
Richard
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 09:02:55 +0200
ogio.spam wrote:

> Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a
> good way to start.

systemctl --user --list-unit-files

There are indeed per-user services :-).
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Re: avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

[Tom Horsley]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 07:55:10 -0400
Neal Becker wrote:

> https://www.phoronix.com/news/Avoid-Nouveau-Linux-6.3

I give nouveau a chance every time I install a new fedora, eventually
(2 hours, 2 weeks, it varies) I get a video crash and frozen
desktop, then I install the rpmfusion nvidia drivers.

I don't remember how many releases ago nouveau was actually
reliable.
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

[Tim via users]

On Wed, 2023-06-14 at 15:38 +0200, ogio.spam wrote:
> I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop ready.
> Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is not 
> showing this behaviour.

Does that user use network shares?  (For their homespace, or for
something within it.)

Does the login restore the previous session, and is waiting for an
application to respond?
 
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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Thu, 2023-06-15 at 09:02 +0200, ogio.spam wrote:
> Il giorno mer, 14/06/2023 alle 08.15 -0700, stan via users ha
> scritto:
> > On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200
> > "ogio.spam"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop
> > > ready.
> > > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user
> > > is
> > > not
> > > showing this behaviour.
> > > 
> > > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with
> > > the
> > > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.
> > > 
> > > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is
> > > still
> > > there.
> > > 
> > > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?
> > 
> > I don't know of a way.  But, what you could do is create a new
> > user,
> > and validate that login is fast.  Then, one by one move over the
> > configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home
> > directory.  One of them will be the cause of this.  It might be in
> > the
> > .bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would
> > have
> > to
> > comment lines to narrow it down.
> I have a lot of data in my home that it's not a good idea to start
> transfer things to a new user.
> I can survive to the delay (5-10 sec) but I would like to identify
> what
> is missing (so I can evenually remove o install it if I really need).
> bashrc and profile are related to console, and in this case the
> problem
> is before to gain a working desktop session.
> > 
> > The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is
> > timing
> > out.  That might be a service that no longer exists.
> Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a
> good way to start.
> Maybe I'm wrong, let me know what you think about.

The Fedora KDE list may be more useful for discussing this. I always
suggest posting KDE-related questions there.

poc
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avoid nouveau with kernel 6.3?

[Neal Becker]

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Avoid-Nouveau-Linux-6.3

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Re: Long time after login on Fedora 38 KDE

[ogio.spam]

Il giorno mer, 14/06/2023 alle 08.15 -0700, stan via users ha scritto:
> On Wed, 14 Jun 2023 15:38:46 +0200
> "ogio.spam"  wrote:
> 
> > Hi all,
> > I experience a long time after password to obtain the desktop
> > ready.
> > Just to be clear, the problem is only with a user. Another user is
> > not
> > showing this behaviour.
> > 
> > The good user is a new fresh user, the not working is a user with
> > the
> > home directory copied from an old Fedora with KDE.
> > 
> > I worked on startup, removing all of them, but the problem is still
> > there.
> > 
> > There is a way to check what is appening after enter password?
> 
> I don't know of a way.  But, what you could do is create a new user,
> and validate that login is fast.  Then, one by one move over the
> configuration items from the failing user to the new user's home
> directory.  One of them will be the cause of this.  It might be in
> the
> .bashrc or .bash_profile files if they are complex, so you would have
> to
> comment lines to narrow it down.
I have a lot of data in my home that it's not a good idea to start
transfer things to a new user.
I can survive to the delay (5-10 sec) but I would like to identify what
is missing (so I can evenually remove o install it if I really need).
bashrc and profile are related to console, and in this case the problem
is before to gain a working desktop session.
> 
> The delay is probably that you are requesting something that is
> timing
> out.  That might be a service that no longer exists.
Also services are not related to specific user, so I think it's not a
good way to start.
Maybe I'm wrong, let me know what you think about.

Regards
 Ogio
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Re: simple scan default printer?

[Jon LaBadie]

On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 05:00:02PM -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

On 6/13/23 02:56, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

On Mon, 2023-06-12 at 23:00 -0700, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

Fedora 37
simple-scan-42.5-1.fc37.x86_64

Any way to get Simple Scan to default to a
different printer?  Right now it defaults
to "Print to LPR"


I would assume (without checking) that it prints to whatever you have
set as your default printer in your desktop Settings panel.

poc


Xfce never figured that out.

And CUPS does not have a default printer that I can find.


The cups package includes /usr/sbin/lpadmin.

lpadmin has a "-d" option to set a default printer.

The Fedora 38 man page for lpadmin shows the option in
the header but does not describe it in the text.

jl

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