Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 05:31 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: That would be considered an install, not an upgrade in the usual understanding of those concepts. I had the same question when reading that. I'm looking at it as an upgrade, because /home will be preserved, but YMMV and clearly does in this case. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 05:30 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know why it's not working for you, unless there's something funny with your BIOS. Have you tried both UEFI and legacy modes? I created a boot drive using dd with the Workstation image and it worked fine on everything I've tried, including an old mac mini which is now running Fedora. As I posted earlier, I tried it on both my laptop and my desktop and got the same results. It's hard to get into the laptop's BIOS if the drive's inserted, and if it isn't, any attempt to leave just opens it up again. I've sent a request to the OEM for email help on getting past this, but I don't expect a response until tomorrow at least. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 05:30 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: Which iso image is this? Since you've renamed it, there's no indication of what it is. I didn't rename it, that's the generic name used in the example I was given. The .iso I'm using is Fedora-Xfce-Live-x86_64-38-1.6.iso ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/1/23 16:04, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/01/2023 04:52 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: I'm not sure I understand: You don't try an install with the LiveUSB but instead try to upgrade from F25 to F38 ... ? My laptop's hard drive died, and I need to install Fedora on it. Then, I'll use the flash drive to install F38 on my desktop, upgrading it all the way in one step. What's hard to understand? That would be considered an install, not an upgrade in the usual understanding of those concepts. I had the same question when reading that. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/1/23 15:46, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/01/2023 04:38 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know what the context is here, but are you sure you're booting from the USB? If there's grub installed on the internal hard drive, but missing partitions or something, then you'll get that. The laptop has a new drive, unformatted and I'm trying to get Fedora installed on it. My desktop has a working system on it, but if I try to boot from the flashdrive, it fails in the same way that it does on my laptop. dd if=f38.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M Which iso image is this? Since you've renamed it, there's no indication of what it is. That's good. You can mount the USB drive to verify that the files are there. I did and it does. I don't know why it's not working for you, unless there's something funny with your BIOS. Have you tried both UEFI and legacy modes? I created a boot drive using dd with the Workstation image and it worked fine on everything I've tried, including an old mac mini which is now running Fedora. And the correction was using M instead of m. Shouldn't matter either way, other than probably being more efficient with M. If so, why did dd fail until I used M instead of m? Sorry, I forgot the result of the earlier thread. "m" is invalid. The two options are "M" and "MB". ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 04:52 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: I'm not sure I understand: You don't try an install with the LiveUSB but instead try to upgrade from F25 to F38 ... ? My laptop's hard drive died, and I need to install Fedora on it. Then, I'll use the flash drive to install F38 on my desktop, upgrading it all the way in one step. What's hard to understand? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 04:32:03PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/01/2023 04:21 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: 8M should be fine, according to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/index.html#_using_a_direct_write_method I'm using F25, and hope to use the drive to upgrade my desktop after I've gotten the laptop working, and that page calls for packages that don't exist for my box. I'm not sure I understand: You don't try an install with the LiveUSB but instead try to upgrade from F25 to F38 ... ? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 04:38 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't know what the context is here, but are you sure you're booting from the USB? If there's grub installed on the internal hard drive, but missing partitions or something, then you'll get that. The laptop has a new drive, unformatted and I'm trying to get Fedora installed on it. My desktop has a working system on it, but if I try to boot from the flashdrive, it fails in the same way that it does on my laptop. dd if=f38.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M That's good. You can mount the USB drive to verify that the files are there. I did and it does. And the correction was using M instead of m. Shouldn't matter either way, other than probably being more efficient with M. If so, why did dd fail until I used M instead of m? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 04:23:54PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: On 10/01/2023 04:21 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: 8M should be fine, according to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/index.html#_using_a_direct_write_method Is there any reason to think that using 1M caused the issue I'm seeing? [ .. ] No, I don't think so. But 8M probably finishes the dd faster than 1M. Convenience - nothing more .. :) Again: I'd use UEFI to boot the thumb, and try another one if it fails ... ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/1/23 12:39, Joe Zeff wrote: Recently, I had trouble creating a LiveUSB and asked for help here. I was given instructions on how to create it using dd, and followed them after correcting a slight error in the instructions. Now, I've finally got my laptop back, and tried to use the flash drive. All that happens is a grub> prompt. I don't know what went wrong, or how to correct it. This is the command that I used: I don't know what the context is here, but are you sure you're booting from the USB? If there's grub installed on the internal hard drive, but missing partitions or something, then you'll get that. dd if=f38.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M That's good. You can mount the USB drive to verify that the files are there. And the correction was using M instead of m. Shouldn't matter either way, other than probably being more efficient with M. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 04:21 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: 8M should be fine, according to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/index.html#_using_a_direct_write_method I'm using F25, and hope to use the drive to upgrade my desktop after I've gotten the laptop working, and that page calls for packages that don't exist for my box. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains
On 10/1/23 10:43, Lester Petrie wrote: On 10/1/2023 5:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2023-09-30 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/30/23 14:40, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/30/2023 03:18 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: As far as I know, there aren't any options for local storage. I mean there are no options for what type of storage Thunderbird uses for local storage. It only has the format Mozilla has always used, which I think is something like mbox with an index. mbox is the default, but you can select Maildir when you create the account, at least when you are using imap. I've never seen any options like that and still don't when I tried it again. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 04:21 PM, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: 8M should be fine, according to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/index.html#_using_a_direct_write_method Is there any reason to think that using 1M caused the issue I'm seeing? If not, why does it matter? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
Did you enter the BIOS/UEFI boot menu and start the LiveUSB from there? On Sun, Oct 01, 2023 at 01:39:47PM -0600, Joe Zeff wrote: Recently, I had trouble creating a LiveUSB and asked for help here. I was given instructions on how to create it using dd, and followed them after correcting a slight error in the instructions. Now, I've finally got my laptop back, and tried to use the flash drive. All that happens is a grub> prompt. I don't know what went wrong, or how to correct it. This is the command that I used: dd if=f38.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M 8M should be fine, according to https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/creating-and-using-a-live-installation-image/index.html#_using_a_direct_write_method ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
NVME messages in journal since last kernel upgrade
Hi all. after last kernel upgrade to 6.5.5-100 I have a lot of message in the journal generated by "nvme" (never seen before). Is there someone with the same problem? Thanks in advance for any answer. Ciao, Angelo -- Host: HP Pavilion Laptop 15-cs0xxx OS: Fedora Linux 37 (Xfce) x86_64 Kernel: 6.5.5-100.fc37.x86_64 DE: Xfce 4.16 CPU:Intel i7-8550U (4) @ 4.000GHz /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Western Digital model: PC SN520 SDAPNUW-512G-1006 -- Here a few messages == ... Oct 01 21:13:48 kernel: nvme nvme0: I/O 6 QID 0 timeout, completion polled Oct 01 21:17:17 kernel: nvme nvme0: I/O 23 QID 0 timeout, completion polled Oct 01 21:47:48 kernel: nvme nvme0: I/O 6 QID 0 timeout, completion polled ... == ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On 10/01/2023 04:03 PM, Ranjan Maitra wrote: To use dd, you have to unmount the drive, did you do that? We need more information on the laptop to help. I'm almost certain that I unmounted the drive. I think I remember having it fail if the drive were mounted. And, before I posted on the list, I rebooted my desktop (blowing away 42 days of uptime) and tried to boot from the drive and got exactly the same result, so it's not my laptop, it's either the flashdrive or the .iso. BTW, Gparted reports it as being bootable if that matters. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: LiveUSB doesn't boot
On Sun Oct01'23 01:39:47PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > From: Joe Zeff > Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2023 13:39:47 -0600 > To: Fedora > Reply-To: Community support for Fedora users > Subject: LiveUSB doesn't boot > > Recently, I had trouble creating a LiveUSB and asked for help here. I was > given instructions on how to create it using dd, and followed them after > correcting a slight error in the instructions. Now, I've finally got my > laptop back, and tried to use the flash drive. All that happens is a grub> > prompt. I don't know what went wrong, or how to correct it. This is the > command that I used: > > dd if=f38.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M > > And the correction was using M instead of m. It is not clear to me if things work. To use dd, you have to unmount the drive, did you do that? We need more information on the laptop to help. Ranjan > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: sendmail
On Sat, Sep 30, 2023 at 11:22:47PM +0200, Patrick Dupre wrote: Hello, It seems that 09/09, the sendmail was working fine, but not on 09/16. What was happenning in between these dates: software updates, your changes? Now I get systemctl start sendmail.service [ ... ] Sep 30 23:08:29 Sappho sendmail[88774]: My unqualified host name (Sappho) unknown; sleeping for retry Sep 30 23:09:15 Sappho systemd[1]: sendmail.service: start operation timed out. Terminating. [ ... ] I have in /etc/hostname Sappho in /etc/host.conf multi on in /etc/hosts # Loopback entries; do not change. # For historical reasons, localhost precedes localhost.localdomain: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 ::1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost6 localhost6.localdomain6 I also run sendmail. The only config differences between your 3 files above and mine (apart from comments, and my hostname) is in the first line of /etc/hosts: yours: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 mine: 127.0.0.1 localhost localhost.localdomain localhost4 localhost4.localdomain4 What does typing 'hostname -f' give on your computer? If it results in an error, I'd try adding 'Sappho', which seems to be your hostname, after '127.0.0.1' in the line above, and leave the rest unchanged. Then again: 'hostname -f' - if that still gives errors, I'd either restart sendmail, or whatever. Even better: I'd reboot ... Good luck! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
LiveUSB doesn't boot
Recently, I had trouble creating a LiveUSB and asked for help here. I was given instructions on how to create it using dd, and followed them after correcting a slight error in the instructions. Now, I've finally got my laptop back, and tried to use the flash drive. All that happens is a grub> prompt. I don't know what went wrong, or how to correct it. This is the command that I used: dd if=f38.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M And the correction was using M instead of m. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains
On Sun, 2023-10-01 at 13:43 -0400, Lester Petrie wrote: > > On 10/1/2023 5:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Sat, 2023-09-30 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > On 9/30/23 14:40, Joe Zeff wrote: > > > > On 09/30/2023 03:18 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > > > As far as I know, there aren't any options for local storage. > > > > I mean there are no options for what type of storage > > > > Thunderbird uses > > > for local storage. It only has the format Mozilla has always > > > used, > > > which I think is something like mbox with an index. > > mbox is the default, but you can select Maildir when you create the > account, at least when you are using imap. Good to know. I would have been surprised if TB didn't support it, though there's no reason it should be restricted to IMAP. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains
On 10/1/2023 5:51 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: On Sat, 2023-09-30 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 9/30/23 14:40, Joe Zeff wrote: On 09/30/2023 03:18 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: As far as I know, there aren't any options for local storage. I mean there are no options for what type of storage Thunderbird uses for local storage. It only has the format Mozilla has always used, which I think is something like mbox with an index. mbox is the default, but you can select Maildir when you create the account, at least when you are using imap. That explains the "compacting". Mbox has one file per mail folder, and leaves holes when mails are deleted, so the mbox file doesn't actually shrink until it's copied and renamed, i.e. "compacted". This can cause issues with locking, especially if the mbox is on a remote mount. Maildir is a better solution which has no locking issues and doesn't require compacting. I'm sure you know all this, but others may not. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Wed, 27 Sep 2023, stan via users wrote: > > > On Tue, 26 Sep 2023 12:06:46 -0500 (CDT) > > I think it is done by running javascript through your version of > > firefox. Do you have noscript add-on installed? That will block > > any > > Noscript was already installed nand active. > It did not complain. > > > javascript from a site, and you will have to turn on the urls that > > you want to be able to run javascript. I'm not sure how effective > > that would be in this case, since cloudfront.net is often needed > > because many sites use it as their host. But, I expect that the > > problem url would show up differently in noscript, and you would be > > able to leave it disabled. Usually, cloudfront.net is disabled > > automatically for other urls. I'm not willing to test that > > expectation, for obvious reasons. :-) > > I'm not clear on what this means. > The url window showed .cloudfront.net . > > > You could test whether this is the solution by installing noscript, > > shutting down and restarting firefox to clear the cache of allowed > > sites (that is a setting in the privacy tab), and then visiting the > > site again. The site should be blocked, and you can click on the > > I already had noscript installed and it did not complain. > > > noscript icon to see the list of urls that have been blocked from > > running javascript. If you want to experience the thrill again, you > > can allow javascript from the above problem address for > > confirmation. Then, turn it off, and the recovery is what you have > > already discovered. > > Once the site was active, > all I could click on was an always-on application that was already > running. The site seemed to have made firefox > fullscreen and turned off all its buttons. > > Javascript is client-side, correct? > The problem went away after disabling networking. > > Is there a way to tell firefox never to let a website take it > fullscreen? Failing that, is there a way to tell firefox to never go > fullscreen at all? > > An alternative that you could use when visiting dodgy sites is to use firefox profiles. It is as if you are running as a different user when you use one. /usr/bin/firefox --new-instance --ProfileManager will allow you to select, create, and delete profiles. You could create one called darkweb, that has everything locked down, and use it only for visiting dodgy sites. And even then, you could also use a container tab within it, so it is very restricted in its actions and access. Because these profiles are separate instances of firefox, you have to install all the add-ons and customizations for each one. Otherwise, you just get a default firefox instance. I also use them in the opposite way, when I know a website is legitimate, I reduce the security for that site in that profile. On sites like youtube, this helps restrict tracking (a little) when going into the belly of the beast (Google). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: How do I stop this malware
On Sat, 30 Sep 2023 09:18:59 -0500 (CDT) Michael Hennebry wrote: > Noscript was already installed nand active. > It did not complain. > > I'm not clear on what this means. > The url window showed .cloudfront.net . > > I already had noscript installed and it did not complain. > Then you have cloudfront.net whitelisted in noscript. The only way to block javascript is by having it turned off for a site when you first visit it. If you have it whitelisted, the javascript runs before you have a chance to intercept. I do not have any of the cloud servers whitelisted. When a site comes up, if it isn't a site I've visited before, I check the list of third party sites that are blocked. If there is a cloud server site there, I usually click to temporarily allow it, if the site seems legitimate. Is this disruptive to smooth web browsing, does it take work / effort? Yes. But that is the nature of security. If you don't want to do this, then you need to install something like ublock-origin, that you can tune to specific websites. It also blocks javascript, but requires more effort because it is more fine grained (to specific site and even subdomains). So, more work up front, but then should do the right thing from then on. I don't visit so many unknown sites that I bother doing this. > Once the site was active, The javascript has already run in order for the site to be active. > all I could click on was an always-on application that was already > running. The site seemed to have made firefox > fullscreen and turned off all its buttons. > > Javascript is client-side, correct? It is fetched from the web site and run client side if it has permission. > The problem went away after disabling networking. I wonder if it was downloading the content of your computer that firefox had access to, maybe your history or your bookmarks, etc. Or maybe, it had set up the javascript to run continuously, downloading in a loop from its website. Any application monitoring the web connection could show this if it was allowed to run. > Is there a way to tell firefox never to let a website take it > fullscreen? Failing that, is there a way to tell firefox to never go > fullscreen at all? I'm not aware of a way, but if you ask on the mozilla forums, there are some really knowledgeable people there who might know a way. There are a *lot* of settings in about:config, and without application knowledge it is really hard to tell what they actually do. As George said, this is not solving the problem though. The javascript might just ignore, or issue a warning, if it can't specify fullscreen. I can't remember, were you able to bring up a console (Ctrl-Alt-[F2-F6])? If you could get to a console, you could use ps or top to see what is running and top or kill to kill applications (like firefox), iotop to see what web traffic is doing. Look in the journal, etc. My understanding is that javascript designed for guis can't run there, so you would not be blocked from any access. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fedora 38: grainy printing with hp lj pro mfp m130fw
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023, at 2:08 AM, Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > Thanks for your replies. > My model is this one: > https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/details/hp-laserjet-pro-mfp-m130-series/model/9365374 > In support and drivers it makes me go here at the end: > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index > where for my printer I find: > > Model namemin hplip version chrome os > support > HP LaserJet Pro MFP m130fw3.16.11 Yes Doing a general google search with that model plus "linux" I ended up with the suggestion to download and install the version of hplip found at: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing That page says: "The current version of the HPLIP solution is version 3.23.8" So I checked what F38 is offering: Installing: hplip x86_64 3.23.5-8.fc38 updates 20 M So we are close, but not at the bleeding edge here. Maybe it would worth the hassle of trying a manual install of it. If you do just make sure to watch where everything goes so that you can clean it back up if it does not help. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fedora 38: grainy printing with hp lj pro mfp m130fw
It seems that configuring it via cups and using the driverless option of discovered network printers gives the best results in printing quality. Connected to the cupsd through https://localhost:631 in a browser: Administration authentication with root Add printer In "discovered network printers" section I get these 3 options: HP LaserJet MFP M130fw (3330D5) (HP LaserJet MFP M129-M134) HP LaserJet MFP M130fw (HP LaserJet MFP M129-M134) HP LaserJet MFP M129-M134 (driverless) (HP LaserJet MFP M129-M134) I chose the "(driverless)" one. >From what I understand the .ppd file should be created on the fly with cupsd communicating with the printer itself about its capabilities. In /etc/cups/printers.conf I get at the end: configuration made by hplip and using ppd described in the beginning of the thread: PrinterId 6 UUID urn:uuid:54d8b569-230d-3b4b-6257-e384254c5030 Info Location MakeModel HP LaserJet MFP m129-m134, hpcups 3.23.5 DeviceURI hp:/net/HP_LaserJet_MFP_M129-M134?ip=192.168.1.223 State Idle StateTime 1695995051 ConfigTime 1695022167 Type 36868 Accepting Yes Shared Yes JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer PrinterId 8 UUID urn:uuid:5cb90984-e18c-32b4-4ca2-50fac32da52a AuthInfoRequired none Info HP LaserJet MFP M129-M134 driverless Location unitedStates MakeModel LaserJet MFP M129-M134 - IPP Everywhere DeviceURI ipps://NPI3330D5.local:631/ipp/print State Idle StateTime 1696161542 ConfigTime 1696161247 Type 36868 Accepting Yes Shared No JobSheets none none QuotaPeriod 0 PageLimit 0 KLimit 0 OpPolicy default ErrorPolicy stop-printer Attribute marker-colors \#00,none Attribute marker-levels 97,79 Attribute marker-low-levels 3,1 Attribute marker-high-levels 100,100 Attribute marker-names Black Cartridge HP CF217A,Imaging Drum HP CF219A Attribute marker-types toner,opc Attribute marker-change-time 1696161525 corresponding files under /etc/cups/ppd are quite different: diff HP_LaserJet_MFP_M129-M134_driverless.ppd HP_LaserJet_MFP_M129-M134.ppd 1a2,4 > * PPD file for HP LaserJet MFP m129-m134 with CUPS. > * Created by the CUPS PPD Compiler CUPS v2.4.6. > *% (c) 2008 Copyright HP Development Company, LP 3c6 < *FileVersion: "2.4" --- > *FileVersion: "3.23.5" 5a9,25 > *PCFileName: "hp-laserjet_mfp_m129-m134.ppd" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m132a)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m132nw)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m132snw)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m134a)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m132fw)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m132fn)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m132fp)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m134fn)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m130a)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m130nw)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m130fn)" > *Product: "(HP LaserJet Pro MFP m130fw)" > *Manufacturer: "HP" > *ModelName: "HP LaserJet MFP m129-m134" > *ShortNickName: "HP LaserJet MFP m129-m134 hpijs" > *NickName: "HP LaserJet MFP m129-m134, hpcups 3.23.5" 8,14d27 < *FileSystem: False < *PCFileName: "ippeve.ppd" < *Manufacturer: "HP" < *ModelName: "LaserJet MFP M129-M134" < *Product: "(LaserJet MFP M129-M134)" < *NickName: "LaserJet MFP M129-M134 - IPP Everywhere" < *ShortNickName: "LaserJet MFP M129-M134 - IPP Everywhere" with hplip configured one being hp-laserjet_mfp_m129-m134.ppd and the new and better one being ippeve.ppd (I presume created on the fly while configuring) Gianluca ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fedora 38: grainy printing with hp lj pro mfp m130fw
On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 6:09 AM Gianluca Cecchi wrote: > On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:01 PM George N. White III > wrote: > >> On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:33 PM Patrick O'Callaghan < >> pocallag...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> [snip] > >> >>> I've had good results just by uninstalling the manufacturer's driver >>> (Brother in my case) and configuring the printer/scanner to use IPP. >>> >> >> < >> https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-ultra-mfp-m134-printer-series/9365381 >> > >> says this model is USB only, so does not have native support for IPP. >> >>> >>> I recently saw a news item saying (IIRC) that MS intend to remove >>> proprietary drivers from future Windows versions and "encouraging" >>> manufacturers to use standard protocols, so at some future time expect >>> them to stop supporting specific drivers for Linux. >>> >> >> Vendors aren't maintaining their legacy drivers so they often break >> when used with newer kernels. That leaves users relying on community >> supported PPD's. It may be possible support IPP using older drivers >> in a VM.. >> >> -- >> George N. White III >> >> >> > Thanks for your replies. > My model is this one: > > https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/details/hp-laserjet-pro-mfp-m130-series/model/9365374 > In support and drivers it makes me go here at the end: > > https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index > where for my printer I find: > > Model namemin hplip version chrome os > support > HP LaserJet Pro MFP m130fw3.16.11 Yes > > driver plug-in Support level print mode scan to pc pc send fax > connectivity > NoFull Mono Yes > Yes USB,Network > > I'm trying to see then what the hoto here suggests > If your model supports network access, check for Apple AirPrint. Currently, Airprint is essentially the same as IPP (Apple could change IPP support anytime, but if you have IPP working on non-Apple devices.you may not be affected until you install some HP update to your printer to support the new AirPrint). With IPP you should install legacy CUPS PPD's as IPP provides the information that used to come in PPD's directly from the printer. -- George N. White III ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Couple of Thunderbird pains
On Sat, 2023-09-30 at 14:43 -0700, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 9/30/23 14:40, Joe Zeff wrote: > > On 09/30/2023 03:18 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > > As far as I know, there aren't any options for local storage. > > > > If you use POP3 as I do, all mail is stored in local storage. You > > can > > have it left on the server so that you can download it onto another > > box, > > but you don't have to. > > I mean there are no options for what type of storage Thunderbird uses > for local storage. It only has the format Mozilla has always used, > which I think is something like mbox with an index. That explains the "compacting". Mbox has one file per mail folder, and leaves holes when mails are deleted, so the mbox file doesn't actually shrink until it's copied and renamed, i.e. "compacted". This can cause issues with locking, especially if the mbox is on a remote mount. Maildir is a better solution which has no locking issues and doesn't require compacting. I'm sure you know all this, but others may not. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: monitoring of fed/web severs
Hi Peter.. Was your email directed to me specifically regarding my needs/questions? Or to the list in general? Thanks -bruce On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 3:59 AM Peter Boy wrote: > > > > > > Am 01.10.2023 um 01:08 schrieb bruce : > > > > Hi. > > > > To all you sys admin -- real or just good! > > > > I'm doing some thought/research prep to figure out what's required to > > monitor remote (cloud) web servers, and the services running on the > > instance. > > > > Ie, what apps/services should be used > > -3rd party apps running/pointed to the box > > -what should be tracked/monitored? > > -are there "recipes" to use to be used as a starting point? > > -things "not" to do -- things "to" do.. > > > > Good/Better/Best practices... > > Server security processes > > User attacking the server > > Traffic attacking the web Server process.. > > > > Whatever the list has to offer, I'd be interested in seeing/hearing. > > > > thanks much > > > > ps. The use case is a couple of test servers, running different > > webSites, with different mysql db. The apps will be php/javascript for > > the most part. > > > > thanks!! > > ___ > > > As Fedora Server WG we are starting to pursue a project to use an ARM SBC > (very low power consumption) to create a dedicated 24/7 monitor appliance. > Currently, I'm leaning towards OpenNMS (https://www.opennms.com/horizon/) as > the monitor software of choice. Icinga might be an alternative. Maybe we can > cooperate on this. > > > Best > Peter > > -- > Peter Boy > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy > p...@fedoraproject.org > > Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) > > Fedora Server Edition Working Group member > Fedora Docs team contributor and board member > Java developer and enthusiast > > > > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: fedora 38: grainy printing with hp lj pro mfp m130fw
On Fri, Sep 29, 2023 at 9:01 PM George N. White III wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:33 PM Patrick O'Callaghan < > pocallag...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> [snip] > >> I've had good results just by uninstalling the manufacturer's driver >> (Brother in my case) and configuring the printer/scanner to use IPP. >> > > < > https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/product-specs/hp-laserjet-ultra-mfp-m134-printer-series/9365381 > > > says this model is USB only, so does not have native support for IPP. > >> >> I recently saw a news item saying (IIRC) that MS intend to remove >> proprietary drivers from future Windows versions and "encouraging" >> manufacturers to use standard protocols, so at some future time expect >> them to stop supporting specific drivers for Linux. >> > > Vendors aren't maintaining their legacy drivers so they often break > when used with newer kernels. That leaves users relying on community > supported PPD's. It may be possible support IPP using older drivers > in a VM.. > > -- > George N. White III > > > Thanks for your replies. My model is this one: https://support.hp.com/us-en/product/details/hp-laserjet-pro-mfp-m130-series/model/9365374 In support and drivers it makes me go here at the end: https://developers.hp.com/hp-linux-imaging-and-printing/supported_devices/index where for my printer I find: Model namemin hplip version chrome os support HP LaserJet Pro MFP m130fw3.16.11 Yes driver plug-in Support level print mode scan to pc pc send fax connectivity NoFull Mono Yes Yes USB,Network I'm trying to see then what the hoto here suggests Gianluca ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: monitoring of fed/web severs
> Am 01.10.2023 um 01:08 schrieb bruce : > > Hi. > > To all you sys admin -- real or just good! > > I'm doing some thought/research prep to figure out what's required to > monitor remote (cloud) web servers, and the services running on the > instance. > > Ie, what apps/services should be used > -3rd party apps running/pointed to the box > -what should be tracked/monitored? > -are there "recipes" to use to be used as a starting point? > -things "not" to do -- things "to" do.. > > Good/Better/Best practices... > Server security processes > User attacking the server > Traffic attacking the web Server process.. > > Whatever the list has to offer, I'd be interested in seeing/hearing. > > thanks much > > ps. The use case is a couple of test servers, running different > webSites, with different mysql db. The apps will be php/javascript for > the most part. > > thanks!! > ___ As Fedora Server WG we are starting to pursue a project to use an ARM SBC (very low power consumption) to create a dedicated 24/7 monitor appliance. Currently, I'm leaning towards OpenNMS (https://www.opennms.com/horizon/) as the monitor software of choice. Icinga might be an alternative. Maybe we can cooperate on this. Best Peter -- Peter Boy https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Pboy p...@fedoraproject.org Timezone: CET (UTC+1) / CEST (UTC+2) Fedora Server Edition Working Group member Fedora Docs team contributor and board member Java developer and enthusiast ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
