Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

[Samuel Sieb]

On 11/6/23 23:48, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote:
What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive while 
a download is in progress.

It will both indicate that the click took, and avoid a double download.


Are you saying that while it's downloading, you click the button again, 
and it downloads them all a second time?

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Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

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On 07/11/2023 16.34, Tim via users wrote:

On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 10:17 +1100, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote:

The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the
messages on the server.

After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while,
and click again in a few seconds.
In this case, after the new messages are downloaded, a second
download starts and the same messages are fetched again.

Normally, only new messages are downloaded in this situation (so none
on a second download), as it should be.

If I download from another client then I will get these messages
again, which is OK as each client should know what it already has.

I have one "main" client which downloads messages, removing them from
the server.
When away from the main server, I often collect messages using other
clients, leaving the messages on the server.
This is when the problem shows.


I'll state the obvious first, then go into more detail...

POP3 is really not good for leaving messages on the server.


I do not leave messages on the server. Let me clarify this.

I usually read messages by downloading and removing them.
At times, when I do not have access to my main client, and I need to check my 
mail,
I will ready by downloading and leaving. This is a small number of messages,
until I get to my main client.

What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive while a 
download is in progress.
It will both indicate that the click took, and avoid a double download.


Even more
so when more than one mail client is used.  And it'll depend on how the
server works.  It never used to do that, and changes to the spec
introduced the feature.  We all know how well specs are (not) adhered
to, and how different ones are interpreted or used and ignored, I hope.

POP3 is not efficient at keeping messages and letting you download
specific ones.  This may simply be a speed issue for you that you may
not notice, or care about.  Though it gets worse with the more messages
kept on the server (mail spool files, wherever they are get more
painful to deal with the bigger they get).  You may be lucky, and that
(speed) may be the only thing you ever have to deal with.


I know that pop3 is the "old way", but as long as it works for me I will stick 
with
it rather than learn a new trick.

Though I do have imap available on my mail server if I ever want to use it.


The server may simply number each message from 1 to however many there
are, as the only way of identifying and dealing with the stored
message.  If you delete some, the remaining may keep their message
numbers, *OR* the whole lot may be renumbered from 1 to however many
there are.  If it renumbers them, your mail clients will have little
hope in working in the manner you desire if they simply deal with
message numbers.

Alternatively, your clients may fetch a list of messages with their
unique message IDs, and they may keep a database of which IDs they've
dealt with.  This is more robust, but mayn't always be supported on
servers and clients.  And, I believe, it's still possible that a server
could change message IDs (heck knows why, but I do recall some
programmers mentioning that).

But, either way, you don't have any way of identifying a message has
been read elsewhere.  Each message appears new on each client.  This
can be an organisational pain if you deal with a lot of mail.

This is the kind of thing that IMAP is meant for.  It's designed to
handle picking and choosing which messages to fetch (on the mail server
and the client side).  It's designed for the server to flag read
messages as already being read, so every mail client that accesses them
can tell the read from the unread.  It's designed for messages to stay
on the server, although you can shift them from server to a client if
you want to.  But normally when you read them, you cache a local copy
while leaving them on the server.  It's kinda like how many webmail
services work, though you use a local mail client rather than a general
purpose web-browser, and you *can* have much better features.

Of course there are drawbacks, some people find IMAP slower, because
it's dealing with each message one-by-one as you read them.  I dare say
some IMAP clients could just sync your whole inbox when you connect,
and so by the time you get around to reading the next message you
already have it, so it'd feel the same as a finished POP3 download.
But I certainly would expect this to be quicker than webmail.

And IMAP isn't always available with some services.  Though you can use
one service to pull all your mail from everywhere using whatever
protocols they support, then access your mail from the central server
using IMAP.  That's more or less what I do, except that my central
server is on my LAN not the WWW, I don't need to access email away from
base.


Thanks for the detailed explanation.

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Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

[fedora]

On 07/11/2023 16.34, Tim via users wrote:

On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 10:17 +1100, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote:

The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the
messages on the server.

After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while,
and click again in a few seconds.
In this case, after the new messages are downloaded, a second
download starts and the same messages are fetched again.

Normally, only new messages are downloaded in this situation (so none
on a second download), as it should be.

If I download from another client then I will get these messages
again, which is OK as each client should know what it already has.

I have one "main" client which downloads messages, removing them from
the server.
When away from the main server, I often collect messages using other
clients, leaving the messages on the server.
This is when the problem shows.


I'll state the obvious first, then go into more detail...

POP3 is really not good for leaving messages on the server.


I do not leave messages on the server. Let me clarify this.

I usually read messages by downloading and removing them.
At times, when I do not have access to my main client, and I need to check my 
mail,
I will ready by downloading and leaving. This is a small number of messages,
until I get to my main client.

What would be nice is to have the "Gem Messages" icon go inactive while a 
download is in progress.
It will both indicate that the click took, and avoid a double download.


Even more
so when more than one mail client is used.  And it'll depend on how the
server works.  It never used to do that, and changes to the spec
introduced the feature.  We all know how well specs are (not) adhered
to, and how different ones are interpreted or used and ignored, I hope.

POP3 is not efficient at keeping messages and letting you download
specific ones.  This may simply be a speed issue for you that you may
not notice, or care about.  Though it gets worse with the more messages
kept on the server (mail spool files, wherever they are get more
painful to deal with the bigger they get).  You may be lucky, and that
(speed) may be the only thing you ever have to deal with.


I know that pop3 is the "old way", but as long as it works for me I will stick 
with
it rather than learn a new trick.

Though I do have imap available on my mail server if I ever want to use it.


The server may simply number each message from 1 to however many there
are, as the only way of identifying and dealing with the stored
message.  If you delete some, the remaining may keep their message
numbers, *OR* the whole lot may be renumbered from 1 to however many
there are.  If it renumbers them, your mail clients will have little
hope in working in the manner you desire if they simply deal with
message numbers.

Alternatively, your clients may fetch a list of messages with their
unique message IDs, and they may keep a database of which IDs they've
dealt with.  This is more robust, but mayn't always be supported on
servers and clients.  And, I believe, it's still possible that a server
could change message IDs (heck knows why, but I do recall some
programmers mentioning that).

But, either way, you don't have any way of identifying a message has
been read elsewhere.  Each message appears new on each client.  This
can be an organisational pain if you deal with a lot of mail.

This is the kind of thing that IMAP is meant for.  It's designed to
handle picking and choosing which messages to fetch (on the mail server
and the client side).  It's designed for the server to flag read
messages as already being read, so every mail client that accesses them
can tell the read from the unread.  It's designed for messages to stay
on the server, although you can shift them from server to a client if
you want to.  But normally when you read them, you cache a local copy
while leaving them on the server.  It's kinda like how many webmail
services work, though you use a local mail client rather than a general
purpose web-browser, and you *can* have much better features.

Of course there are drawbacks, some people find IMAP slower, because
it's dealing with each message one-by-one as you read them.  I dare say
some IMAP clients could just sync your whole inbox when you connect,
and so by the time you get around to reading the next message you
already have it, so it'd feel the same as a finished POP3 download.
But I certainly would expect this to be quicker than webmail.

And IMAP isn't always available with some services.  Though you can use
one service to pull all your mail from everywhere using whatever
protocols they support, then access your mail from the central server
using IMAP.  That's more or less what I do, except that my central
server is on my LAN not the WWW, I don't need to access email away from
base.


Thanks for the detailed explanation.

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Re: Time to replace SSD disk?

[Javier Perez]

To all who helped me out, Thanks.
Mission accomplished,
Just deleted one of the Boot Options at the Bios level and now I got 92.2KB
Free

Thanks

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 3:07 AM Javier Perez  wrote:

> I know, I am just digressing.
> As far as the original question, I understand I will have to reset the
> nvram and recheck.
>
> On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 02:52 Samuel Sieb  wrote:
>
>> On 11/5/23 23:39, Javier Perez wrote:
>> > Hi.
>> > I could not find the specs back in the crucial web page.
>> > But from a review site I could find a figure, 72TB
>> > https://www.storagereview.com/review/crucial-mx100-ssd-review
>> > 
>> > Looks like I have used up about 16% of its Endurance.
>>
>> But this is entirely irrelevant to the original question.  It has
>> nothing to do with your SSD.  efivars isn't on a disk as was explained.
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Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

[Tim via users]

On Tue, 2023-11-07 at 10:17 +1100, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote:
> The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the
> messages on the server.
> 
> After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while,
> and click again in a few seconds.
> In this case, after the new messages are downloaded, a second
> download starts and the same messages are fetched again.
> 
> Normally, only new messages are downloaded in this situation (so none
> on a second download), as it should be.
> 
> If I download from another client then I will get these messages
> again, which is OK as each client should know what it already has.
> 
> I have one "main" client which downloads messages, removing them from
> the server.
> When away from the main server, I often collect messages using other
> clients, leaving the messages on the server.
> This is when the problem shows.

I'll state the obvious first, then go into more detail...

POP3 is really not good for leaving messages on the server.  Even more
so when more than one mail client is used.  And it'll depend on how the
server works.  It never used to do that, and changes to the spec
introduced the feature.  We all know how well specs are (not) adhered
to, and how different ones are interpreted or used and ignored, I hope.

POP3 is not efficient at keeping messages and letting you download
specific ones.  This may simply be a speed issue for you that you may
not notice, or care about.  Though it gets worse with the more messages
kept on the server (mail spool files, wherever they are get more
painful to deal with the bigger they get).  You may be lucky, and that
(speed) may be the only thing you ever have to deal with.

The server may simply number each message from 1 to however many there
are, as the only way of identifying and dealing with the stored
message.  If you delete some, the remaining may keep their message
numbers, *OR* the whole lot may be renumbered from 1 to however many
there are.  If it renumbers them, your mail clients will have little
hope in working in the manner you desire if they simply deal with
message numbers.

Alternatively, your clients may fetch a list of messages with their
unique message IDs, and they may keep a database of which IDs they've
dealt with.  This is more robust, but mayn't always be supported on
servers and clients.  And, I believe, it's still possible that a server
could change message IDs (heck knows why, but I do recall some
programmers mentioning that).

But, either way, you don't have any way of identifying a message has
been read elsewhere.  Each message appears new on each client.  This
can be an organisational pain if you deal with a lot of mail.

This is the kind of thing that IMAP is meant for.  It's designed to
handle picking and choosing which messages to fetch (on the mail server
and the client side).  It's designed for the server to flag read
messages as already being read, so every mail client that accesses them
can tell the read from the unread.  It's designed for messages to stay
on the server, although you can shift them from server to a client if
you want to.  But normally when you read them, you cache a local copy
while leaving them on the server.  It's kinda like how many webmail
services work, though you use a local mail client rather than a general
purpose web-browser, and you *can* have much better features.

Of course there are drawbacks, some people find IMAP slower, because
it's dealing with each message one-by-one as you read them.  I dare say
some IMAP clients could just sync your whole inbox when you connect,
and so by the time you get around to reading the next message you
already have it, so it'd feel the same as a finished POP3 download. 
But I certainly would expect this to be quicker than webmail.

And IMAP isn't always available with some services.  Though you can use
one service to pull all your mail from everywhere using whatever
protocols they support, then access your mail from the central server
using IMAP.  That's more or less what I do, except that my central
server is on my LAN not the WWW, I don't need to access email away from
base.

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Re: thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/6/23 15:17, fed...@eyal.emu.id.au wrote:

tb 115.3.2


My upgrade to 115 did not go smoothly.  Swear words
have not bee invented to properly express 

You should see the tears being shed over on
alt.comp.software.thunderbird

What were they thinking!

11.5.4 is in the repo now.  Try it.
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Re: Tip: default printer

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/6/23 14:59, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 6/11/23 19:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

This is my keeper file on the default printer.

Hope this helps someone else.

-T

Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve?
Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with
no printer specified?    !!


On my system I didn't have any printers defined, so to test things I 
added my network printer which is an Epson ET3700.
Before I started, ~/.cups/lpoptions didn't exist and /etc/cups/lpoptions 
was empty.
To add my printer I went into the cups interface, as I always do, in 
firefox and under Administration I selected "Add Printer". That 
displayed all the print devices cups could see, which included "Epson 
ET3700 Series" and "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless" under "Network 
Printers". I selected "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless, and then in the 
Model selection on the next screen, I selected the "Driverless Driver" 
rather than the "IPP Everywhere Driver", then clicked on "Add Printer".
After defining the printer I checked ~/.cups/lpoptions and it still did 
not exist, and /etc/cups/lpoptions was still empty. Lpstat -p showed my 
printer only and lpstat -d said there was no system default.
Going into KDE's system settings Printer interface shows the printer I 
added in Cups with "Default Printer" not checked, and when I click on 
"Configure" and look at the printer properties it shows me the settings 
I set in cups as the default properties.
If I start Libreoffice Writer and look at file->Printer Properties it 
shows two entries for my printer, one with "Double Sided Printing" 
active, which I set in the default options in Cups, and one entry with 
"Double Sided Printing" turned off, and unfortunately both printer 
entries have the same name.
The double entry that Libreoffice Writer shows is similar to the issue I 
get under Windows. Under windows when I install the Epson printer driver 
and install my printer, the printer installation creates two printer 
definitions, an Epson ET3700 "Local" and an Epson ET3700 Network, where 
the "Local" entry has "Double Sided" printing active and the "Network" 
entry has "Double Sided" printing turned off and Administrator Disabled 
so that it can't be changed. Even though the printer is set up this way 
the "Local" definition still outputs to the network printer anyway.


regards,
Steve


Hi Steve,

This is exactly what I was seeing.

 I did not realize that
~/.cups/lpoptions, and
/etc/cups/lpoptions

had to be set outside the WebUI (https://127.0.0.1:631).
Confused the heck (not my "actual" word) out of me.

The WebUI's default is server only.  For what use, I can not
fathom.

To see what the Server's default is, check /etc/cups/printers.conf
as root.

su root -c "less /etc/cups/printers.conf | grep -i DefaultPrinter"





I reported the problem over on CUPS:
   CUPS UI (631) fails to update the default printer in /etc/cups/lpoptions
   https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/818
They explained the misunderstanding to me.

I did ask on the bug report if they would included some
declaration on the Web UI's page that this was the server's
default and not the local machine's default so that
it would be intuitive to those without developer's level
knowledge of the situation.

"..it is not intuitively obvious to the lay user. It
took me two years to figure it out. Would you consider
removing the confusion for lay people by adding some
wording to the Web UI to the affect that "This is
the service side default printer. For your local
computer, set the default printer with lpoptions:
lpoptions -d printer-name.

Okay, and I know I may be pushing it here, but it would
be capitol if you added a client side setting for
default printer to the  Web UI too."

I have not heard back from them, but it has not been that
long yet.

-T
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Re: Tip: default printer

[ToddAndMargo via users]

On 11/6/23 13:14, Michael Hennebry wrote:

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve?
Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with
no printer specified?    !!


For sure, lp and lpr use the default printer if not told otherwise.
I think that vim will only use the default printer,
but configuration might be possible.
Anyone know for sure?



I do believe that lp and lpr will fill in the default
printer for you, if you do not specify a printer.
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thunderbird: duplicated messages downloaded

[fedora]

[resend from correct email]

F38, tb 115.3.2 (64-bit)

The server is configured as pop3 with the option to leave the messages on the 
server.

After clicking "Get Messages" I often get no reaction for a while, and click 
again in a few seconds.
In this case, after the new messages are downloaded, a second download starts 
and the same messages are fetched again.

Normally, only new messages are downloaded in this situation (so none on a 
second download), as it should be.

If I download from another client then I will get these messages again, which 
is OK as each client should know what it already has.

I have one "main" client which downloads messages, removing them from the 
server.
When away from the main server, I often collect messages using other clients, 
leaving the messages on the server.
This is when the problem shows.

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Re: Tip: default printer

[Stephen Morris]

On 6/11/23 19:48, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:

Hi All,

This is my keeper file on the default printer.

Hope this helps someone else.

-T

Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve?
Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with
no printer specified?    !!
On my system I didn't have any printers defined, so to test things I 
added my network printer which is an Epson ET3700.
Before I started, ~/.cups/lpoptions didn't exist and /etc/cups/lpoptions 
was empty.
To add my printer I went into the cups interface, as I always do, in 
firefox and under Administration I selected "Add Printer". That 
displayed all the print devices cups could see, which included "Epson 
ET3700 Series" and "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless" under "Network 
Printers". I selected "Epson ET3700 Series Driverless, and then in the 
Model selection on the next screen, I selected the "Driverless Driver" 
rather than the "IPP Everywhere Driver", then clicked on "Add Printer".
After defining the printer I checked ~/.cups/lpoptions and it still did 
not exist, and /etc/cups/lpoptions was still empty. Lpstat -p showed my 
printer only and lpstat -d said there was no system default.
Going into KDE's system settings Printer interface shows the printer I 
added in Cups with "Default Printer" not checked, and when I click on 
"Configure" and look at the printer properties it shows me the settings 
I set in cups as the default properties.
If I start Libreoffice Writer and look at file->Printer Properties it 
shows two entries for my printer, one with "Double Sided Printing" 
active, which I set in the default options in Cups, and one entry with 
"Double Sided Printing" turned off, and unfortunately both printer 
entries have the same name.
The double entry that Libreoffice Writer shows is similar to the issue I 
get under Windows. Under windows when I install the Epson printer driver 
and install my printer, the printer installation creates two printer 
definitions, an Epson ET3700 "Local" and an Epson ET3700 Network, where 
the "Local" entry has "Double Sided" printing active and the "Network" 
entry has "Double Sided" printing turned off and Administrator Disabled 
so that it can't be changed. Even though the printer is set up this way 
the "Local" definition still outputs to the network printer anyway.


regards,
Steve





CUPS: manually correct the default printer

Reference(s):
   https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Print_Settings_with_CUPS
   https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/818

CUPS Web UI (https://127.0.0.1:631) fails to update /etc/cups/lpoptions
to a new default printer.   Note that this is on purpose,  The Web UI's
default printer is the server's default.  Not the local (client)
computer's default.


The local computer's defaults are found in:
   user:
   ~/.cups/lpoptions

   global (if not user default):
   /etc/cups/lpoptions


Fix action:

First, list installed printers:
    $ lpstat -p
    printer Cups-PDF is idle.  ...
    printer HLL2300D ...
    printer HLL2300D_ManualTray ...

To set the system defualt:
    # vi /etc/cups/lpoptions
    Default Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above
    # systemctl restart cups

To set the user's default:
    $ lpoptions -d Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above

To double check:
    $ lpstat -d
    system default destination: Cups-PDF

Note: this is the local user default, not the system default.
reported under:
    lpstat gives incorrect wording for the default printer
    https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/819

Example files involved:
    System:
    # cat /etc/cups/lpoptions
    Default HLL2300D

    User:
    $ cat ~/.cups/lpoptions
    Default Cups-PDF
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Re: Web page doesn't display (Trouble with javascript?)

[Stephen Morris]

On 7/11/23 08:27, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Can anyone display this page:
https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2024Apr08Tgoogle.html
The text claims the page contains a map of the April 2024 eclipse, but 
no such thing appears on the screen.


System Info:
Firefox 119.0 (64-bit)
Operating System: Fedora Linux 38
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.110.0
Qt Version: 5.15.10
Kernel Version: 6.5.9-200.fc38.x86_64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4600
Manufacturer: ASUS

I'm using Firefox nightly V121 and when I access that page it tells me 
to use google maps I have to have Javascript turned on, but I can't see 
anything in the firefox configuration that obviously turns javascript on 
or off. I also at the moment don't have any extensions installed in 
firefox either, and the only two plugins I have are the H264 and 
widevine plugins.
I did a search on the net for javascript in firefox and found 
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1253413. I checked 
about:config in my browser and javascript is enabled, so some of the 
settings suggested in the link might be causing an issue. For me I don't 
think the site data or cookies would be causing a problem as I have 
those cleared on exit from firefox, so loading the page you referenced 
should be starting with a clean slate.


regards,
Steve


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Re: Web page doesn't display (Trouble with javascript?)

[Mike Wright]

On 11/6/23 13:27, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote:

Can anyone display this page:
https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2024Apr08Tgoogle.html
The text claims the page contains a map of the April 2024 eclipse, but
no such thing appears on the screen.


No go here.  Chrome, Firefox, Brave.
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Web page doesn't display (Trouble with javascript?)

[Jonathan Ryshpan]

Can anyone display this page:
   https://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEgoogle/SEgoogle2001/SE2024Apr08Tgoogle.html
The text claims the page contains a map of the April 2024 eclipse, but
no such thing appears on the screen.

System Info:
   Firefox 119.0 (64-bit)
   Operating System: Fedora Linux 38
   KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
   KDE Frameworks Version: 5.110.0
   Qt Version: 5.15.10
   Kernel Version: 6.5.9-200.fc38.x86_64 (64-bit)
   Graphics Platform: X11
   Processors: 8 × Intel® Core™ i7-4790K CPU @ 4.00GHz
   Memory: 15.5 GiB of RAM
   Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 4600
   Manufacturer: ASUS
   
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 a person by the way they handle these three 
 things:
 a rainy day, 
 lost luggage, 
 and tangled Christmas tree lights.
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Re: Tip: default printer

[Michael Hennebry]

On Mon, 6 Nov 2023, ToddAndMargo via users wrote:


Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve?
Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with
no printer specified?!!


For sure, lp and lpr use the default printer if not told otherwise.
I think that vim will only use the default printer,
but configuration might be possible.
Anyone know for sure?

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Re: Strange lines in message log when running firefox??

[Mayavimmer]

On 05/11/23 00:44, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:


Nov  5 09:39:17 x /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[123970]: [Parent 123970, 
Main Thread]
WARNING: Failed to call GetIdletime(): 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown:
The name is not activatable
Nov  5 09:39:17 x /usr/libexec/gdm-x-session[123970]: : 'glib warning', 
file
/builddir/build/BUILD/firefox-119.0/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:167
Nov  5 09:39:17 x firefox[123970]: Failed to call GetIdletime():
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name is not 
activatable

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I get the same on my up to date F38 KDE (HOST.NAME redacted):

nov 06 13:13:58 HOST.NAME plasmashell[2774]: [Parent 2774, Main Thread] 
WARNING: Failed to call GetIdletime(): 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name is not 
activatable
nov 06 13:13:58 HOST.NAME plasmashell[2774]: : 'glib warning', file 
/builddir/build/BUILD/firefox-119.0/toolkit/xre/nsSigHandlers.cpp:167
nov 06 13:13:58 HOST.NAME firefox[2774]: Failed to call GetIdletime(): 
GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name is not 
activatable


It repeats every 5 seconds!
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Re: rpm output

[Patrick Dupre via users]

Finally, I followed your recommendation, and it appears that all the packages providing errors are intel (2018) packages.

>
> Samuel Sieb wrote:
> > On 10/25/23 13:35, Patrick Dupre via users wrote:
> >> rpm -qi $(rpm -qa | grep pubkey)
> >> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 132
> >> Header RSA signature: BAD (header tag 268: invalid OpenPGP signature: Parsing an OpenPGP packet:
> >> Failed to parse Signature Packet
> >> because: Signature appears to be created by a non-conformant OpenPGP implementation, see .
> >> because: Malformed MPI: leading bit is not set: expected bit 8 to be set in 101000 (28))
> >> Header SHA1 digest: OK
> >> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 134
> >> Header RSA signature: BAD (header tag 268: invalid OpenPGP signature: Parsing an OpenPGP packet:
> >> Failed to parse Signature Packet
> >> because: Signature appears to be created by a non-conformant OpenPGP implementation, see .
> >> because: Malformed MPI: leading bit is not set: expected bit 8 to be set in 100 (7c))
> >> Header SHA1 digest: OK
> >> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 137
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How can I associate the pubkeys with the package?
> >
> > They aren't part of a package. They are independent data items. I'm not
> > sure if it's a pubkey or a package.
> >
> >> Should I rebuild the rpm databasis?
> >
> > That won't do anything. The database is fine, it's the signature of
> > something in it that isn't.
> >
> > Try running "rpm -qa --nosignature | grep pubkey" and see if that runs
> > without the error. That option isn't documented for querying, so I don't
> > know if it will have any effect.
>
> There is some guidance for how to handle this in Common
> Issues:
>
> https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/third-party-rpms-with-an-invalid-signing-key-might-cause-errors-during-package-operations/80077
>
> As a brief example (I'd recommend reading the article in
> full):
>
> $ rpm -q --nosignature --querybynumber 132
>
> should report the first affected package. Repeat for the
> other numbers in the errors and then remove the packages via
>
> $ sudo rpm -e --nosignature 
>
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Tip: default printer

[ToddAndMargo via users]

Hi All,

This is my keeper file on the default printer.

Hope this helps someone else.

-T

Exactly what purpose does the "server default" printer serve?
Is it even possible to send the CUPS server a print job with
no printer specified?!!



CUPS: manually correct the default printer

Reference(s):
   https://en.opensuse.org/SDB:Print_Settings_with_CUPS
   https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/818

CUPS Web UI (https://127.0.0.1:631) fails to update /etc/cups/lpoptions
to a new default printer.   Note that this is on purpose,  The Web UI's
default printer is the server's default.  Not the local (client)
computer's default.


The local computer's defaults are found in:
   user:
   ~/.cups/lpoptions

   global (if not user default):
   /etc/cups/lpoptions


Fix action:

First, list installed printers:
$ lpstat -p
printer Cups-PDF is idle.  ...
printer HLL2300D ...
printer HLL2300D_ManualTray ...

To set the system defualt:
# vi /etc/cups/lpoptions
Default Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above
# systemctl restart cups

To set the user's default:
$ lpoptions -d Printer_Name_from_lpstat_above

To double check:
$ lpstat -d
system default destination: Cups-PDF

Note: this is the local user default, not the system default.
reported under:
lpstat gives incorrect wording for the default printer
https://github.com/OpenPrinting/cups/issues/819

Example files involved:
System:
# cat /etc/cups/lpoptions
Default HLL2300D

User:
$ cat ~/.cups/lpoptions
Default Cups-PDF
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Re: Time to replace SSD disk?

[Javier Perez]

I know, I am just digressing.
As far as the original question, I understand I will have to reset the
nvram and recheck.

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023, 02:52 Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 11/5/23 23:39, Javier Perez wrote:
> > Hi.
> > I could not find the specs back in the crucial web page.
> > But from a review site I could find a figure, 72TB
> > https://www.storagereview.com/review/crucial-mx100-ssd-review
> > 
> > Looks like I have used up about 16% of its Endurance.
>
> But this is entirely irrelevant to the original question.  It has
> nothing to do with your SSD.  efivars isn't on a disk as was explained.
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