Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-19 Thread Samuel Sieb

On 5/19/24 8:58 AM, Mike Wright wrote:
For the first time ever I had a need for the "rescue" kernel.  Using 
that grub entry brought up a system that required a root login.  I have 
not had a root password on any distro since I can't recall.  Oh, I 
remember, edit the command line and put it in runlevel 1.  hahahaha! 
Grampa, what's a runlevel?  I ended up booting off of a USB (ventoy is 
awesome!) to bring up some distro, mounted the borken system, did my 
magic, rebooted and was back in business.


Point being: what good is a rescue kernel when the canoe has no oars?


The rescue kernel option has all the kernel modules.  It's primarily 
useful for if you've changed hardware to something that uses different 
drivers that weren't being used before.  By default, the initramfs only 
has the drivers needed for the current hardware.


The rescue kernel option is not any different than the regular options 
for fixing a damaged fs.  There is an issue that if it can't boot, it 
asks for the root password even if that hasn't been set.  There has been 
some discussion about it, but no solutions yet.

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Re: This OS version ... dracut (Init ramfs) is past its end-of-support date

2024-05-19 Thread Barry Scott


> On 19 May 2024, at 15:58, Frédéric  wrote:
> 
> Is it because F38 is past end of support or is it just related to dracut?

You can query the EOL date like this:

$ hostnamectl
   Static hostname: armf38.chelsea.private
 Icon name: computer-vm
   Chassis: vm 
Machine ID: ce79604f5b5945f28b6a37ac66f4ffc4
   Boot ID: b24f38816cef4716b447768076169c44
Virtualization: parallels
  Operating System: Fedora Linux 38 (KDE Plasma)
   CPE OS Name: cpe:/o:fedoraproject:fedora:38
OS Support End: Tue 2024-05-14
OS Support Expired: 5d
Kernel: Linux 6.8.6-100.fc38.aarch64
  Architecture: arm64
   Hardware Vendor: Parallels International GmbH.
Hardware Model: Parallels ARM Virtual Machine
  Firmware Version: 19.3.1 (54941)

Barry

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Re: Updated 3 machines from 39 to 40, but on 4th machine get this error at end??

2024-05-19 Thread John Pilkington

On 19/05/2024 18:08, Michael D. Setzer II wrote:

On 19 May 2024 at 14:50, John Pilkington wrote:

Date sent:  Sun, 19 May 2024 14:50:55 +0100
Subject:Re: Updated 3 machines from 39 to 40, but on 4th
machine get this
error at end??
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
From:   John Pilkington 
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users



On 19/05/2024 09:48, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:

Error: Transaction test error:
file /usr/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir conflicts between attempted
installs of glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.i686 and
glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.x86_64


# rpm -qa | grep glib2-devel
glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.x86_64
glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.i686

Don't know if other 3 machines had these installed or not?

Thanks for any recommendations??



Do you need the i686 package?


Turns out the i686 file wasn't being used by anything else, so
uninstalled it, and reran the upgrade, and it went thru fine.

Don't recall why it has both x86_64 and i686 version installed, or
why they earlier had no conflict together on 39, but now failed on
40?

Did find it stranger in rerunning the upgrade, it didn't have to
download any of files, but rpmkeys took just as long to run.

But wasn't sure uninstalling it would fix problem, so just thought
I'd check if might require something more.


I suppose you were using this:

https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/quick-docs/upgrading-fedora-offline/

and it's likely that downloading with --allowerasing and/or 
--skip-broken would have gone ahead (Section 3).  But the document 
suggests a number of post-upgrade jobs, most of which ideally require 
careful thought before 'yes'  :-)



Thanks for quick reply.





I tried your rpm -qa line on one box, and worryingly got a db error:

error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 

which looks as if it has been fixed by rpm --rebuilddb.  The package
found was:

glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.x86_64

John P






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Re: F40 Sendmail "Connection Refused"

2024-05-19 Thread Tim Evans

On 5/17/24 11:40 AM, Tim Evans wrote:
I have sendmail (sendmail-8.18.1-1.fc40.x86_64) on my three home 
systems, its purpose being handling of LOCAL-ONLY mail.  That is, output 
from cron jobs, local backup scripts, and the like. (I review these 
messages using good-ole command-line 'mailx'.) External mail is handled 
by my hosting provider's server, to which I connect with Thunderbird via 
IMAP.


Two of the three systems are handling local mail correctly.  One, 
however, is failing with:


# mailq
     /var/spool/mqueue (3 requests)
-Q-ID- --Size-- -Q-Time- 
Sender/Recipient---

44HBtEsB003461 5910 Fri May 17 07:55 MAILER-DAEMON
  (Deferred: Connection refused by 
kestrel.mynetworksettings.co)

  

journalctl reports pretty much the same error message.

This began with the upgrade to F40 yesterday


Following up, a reboot cleared these hung messages and current messages 
are being delivered.  I had tried restarting sendmail prior to my 
posting, but that didn't clear them.

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Re: Updated 3 machines from 39 to 40, but on 4th machine get this error at end??

2024-05-19 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
On 19 May 2024 at 14:50, John Pilkington wrote:

Date sent:  Sun, 19 May 2024 14:50:55 +0100
Subject:Re: Updated 3 machines from 39 to 40, but on 4th 
machine get this
error at end??
To: users@lists.fedoraproject.org
From:   John Pilkington 
Send reply to:  Community support for Fedora users 


> On 19/05/2024 09:48, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:
> > Error: Transaction test error:
> >file /usr/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir conflicts between attempted
> > installs of glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.i686 and
> > glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.x86_64
> > 
> > 
> > # rpm -qa | grep glib2-devel
> > glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.x86_64
> > glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.i686
> > 
> > Don't know if other 3 machines had these installed or not?
> > 
> > Thanks for any recommendations??
> > 
> 
> Do you need the i686 package?

Turns out the i686 file wasn't being used by anything else, so 
uninstalled it, and reran the upgrade, and it went thru fine.

Don't recall why it has both x86_64 and i686 version installed, or 
why they earlier had no conflict together on 39, but now failed on 
40?

Did find it stranger in rerunning the upgrade, it didn't have to 
download any of files, but rpmkeys took just as long to run.

But wasn't sure uninstalling it would fix problem, so just thought 
I'd check if might require something more.

Thanks for quick reply.



> 
> I tried your rpm -qa line on one box, and worryingly got a db error:
> 
> error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 
> 
> which looks as if it has been fixed by rpm --rebuilddb.  The package 
> found was:
> 
> glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.x86_64
> 
> John P
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: This OS version ... dracut (Init ramfs) is past its end-of-support date

2024-05-19 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sun, 2024-05-19 at 16:58 +0200, Frédéric wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I get this strange message when I boot:
> [ ↑↑ ] This OS version (Fedora Linux 38 (Thirty Eight)
> dracut-059-5.fc38 (Init ramfs)) is past its end-of-support date
> (2024-05-14).
> 
> Is it because F38 is past end of support or is it just related to
> dracut?

F38 was EOLed several days ago.

poc
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Re: My Fedora 40 experiences

2024-05-19 Thread Mike Wright

On 5/18/24 01:10, John Pilkington wrote:

On 18/05/2024 03:17, Stephen Morris wrote:

On 17/5/24 22:43, John Pilkington wrote:

On 17/05/2024 13:08, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote:

Hi.

On Thu, 16 May 2024 23:04:21 +1000 Stephen Morris wrote:

On 16/5/24 21:33, George N. White III wrote:


Many users have had problems with the akmod-nvida install. For 
470xx the
module failed to compile. For newer cards, users sometimes end up 
with
unsigned drivers. This usually means they rebooted too quickly 
(during the

window after the module was compiled but before it was signed.).


Or before the depmod done by the postintall of the kmod-nvidia-KERNEL
RPM finishes.


I have had the reboot happen too too quickly before but in this case I
had no control over the reboot process, it happened automatically when
the installs were completed.


Right: more precisely as soon as dnf system-upgrade finishes.

As said earlier on this list:

   I made a proposal to prevent that:

 kmod failed to load after upgrade Fedora using dnf system-upgrade
 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2011120

   still waiting for approval.


This morning 'dnf upgrade' on one of my boxes installed the 
470.239.06-2 versions of akmod and kmod, while the other box, having 
the -1 nersions, said there was 'nothing to do';  then packagekit 
found them and did a preliminary reboot before install.  Both boxes 
now have the -2 versions installed and running.  The process does 
take several minutes - and I did an "akmods --rebuild --force" just 
to make sure.


F40 with plasma-workspace-x11 does seem to be working well now for 
me, and can use vdpau.
How did you get Xorg working with Plasma as I can't see any group in 
dnf to install that?


The path to where I am now has been complicated, mainly because my 
nvidia hardware is 'legacy' and its 470xx driver has not claimed to 
support Wayland.  Under Wayland all cpus max out, and keyboard/mouse are 
almost unusable.  YMMV.


dnf info plasma-workspace-x11

It's in the Fedora 'updates' repo.



The other thing I didn't like with the F40 upgrade was in F39 I had 
dnf configured to retain 5 kernels, but the F40 upgrade reset that 
back to 3.


My system has 450 MB /boot, space for only 2 kernels + rescue.


For the first time ever I had a need for the "rescue" kernel.  Using 
that grub entry brought up a system that required a root login.  I have 
not had a root password on any distro since I can't recall.  Oh, I 
remember, edit the command line and put it in runlevel 1.  hahahaha! 
Grampa, what's a runlevel?  I ended up booting off of a USB (ventoy is 
awesome!) to bring up some distro, mounted the borken system, did my 
magic, rebooted and was back in business.


Point being: what good is a rescue kernel when the canoe has no oars?

If you need space get rid of the rescue kernel.

IMHO
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This OS version ... dracut (Init ramfs) is past its end-of-support date

2024-05-19 Thread Frédéric
Hi,

I get this strange message when I boot:
[ ↑↑ ] This OS version (Fedora Linux 38 (Thirty Eight)
dracut-059-5.fc38 (Init ramfs)) is past its end-of-support date
(2024-05-14).

Is it because F38 is past end of support or is it just related to dracut?

Thanks
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Re: Updated 3 machines from 39 to 40, but on 4th machine get this error at end??

2024-05-19 Thread John Pilkington

On 19/05/2024 09:48, Michael D. Setzer II via users wrote:

Error: Transaction test error:
   file /usr/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir conflicts between attempted
installs of glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.i686 and
glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.x86_64


# rpm -qa | grep glib2-devel
glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.x86_64
glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.i686

Don't know if other 3 machines had these installed or not?

Thanks for any recommendations??



Do you need the i686 package?

I tried your rpm -qa line on one box, and worryingly got a db error:

error: rpmdbNextIterator: skipping h# 

which looks as if it has been fixed by rpm --rebuilddb.  The package 
found was:


glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.x86_64

John P






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Updated 3 machines from 39 to 40, but on 4th machine get this error at end??

2024-05-19 Thread Michael D. Setzer II via users
Error: Transaction test error:
  file /usr/share/gir-1.0/GLib-2.0.gir conflicts between attempted 
installs of glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.i686 and 
glib2-devel-2.80.2-1.fc40.x86_64


# rpm -qa | grep glib2-devel
glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.x86_64
glib2-devel-2.78.6-1.fc39.i686

Don't know if other 3 machines had these installed or not?

Thanks for any recommendations??

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