Re: How to downgrade PHP

[Clifford Snow]

SOLVED

I downloaded the php remi files [1] for version 8,2 into a separate folder
and did a sudo dnf downgrade * in that folder to solve the problem. Now I
need to fix dnf so it doesn't upgrade those to 8,3

1 PHP remi URL https://rpms.remirepo.net/fedora/38/php82/x86_64/

On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 6:45 PM Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> I'm actually using REMI. But that may be the solution - dropping REMI. Now
> I need to see if REMI provides something needed by Nextcloud.
>
> Thanks,
> Clifford
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 5:48 PM Todd Zullinger  wrote:
>
>> Clifford Snow wrote:
>> > I just upgraded my F39 machine and received PHP 8.3.0-RC6-1 - nice
>> except
>> > my Nextcloud installation doesn't like it. Any suggestions on how to
>> > downgrade PHP to 8.2
>>
>> Fedora 39 has php-8.2.12-1.fc39.  If you're getting
>> 8.3.0~RC6, you would appear to be on Rawhide (what will
>> become Fedora 40 in about 6 months).
>>
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Re: How to downgrade PHP

[Clifford Snow]

I'm actually using REMI. But that may be the solution - dropping REMI. Now
I need to see if REMI provides something needed by Nextcloud.

Thanks,
Clifford

On Sun, Nov 19, 2023 at 5:48 PM Todd Zullinger  wrote:

> Clifford Snow wrote:
> > I just upgraded my F39 machine and received PHP 8.3.0-RC6-1 - nice except
> > my Nextcloud installation doesn't like it. Any suggestions on how to
> > downgrade PHP to 8.2
>
> Fedora 39 has php-8.2.12-1.fc39.  If you're getting
> 8.3.0~RC6, you would appear to be on Rawhide (what will
> become Fedora 40 in about 6 months).
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How to downgrade PHP

[Clifford Snow]

I just upgraded my F39 machine and received PHP 8.3.0-RC6-1 - nice except
my Nextcloud installation doesn't like it. Any suggestions on how to
downgrade PHP to 8.2

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Re: Postgresql upgrade from 14 to 15

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On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 6:45 AM Max Pyziur  wrote:

> On Fri, 5 May 2023, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> > I just successfully upgraded my laptop to Fedora 38.
> >
> > Unfortunately, upgrading postgresql isn't working for me. Running
> postgresql-setup upgrade produces and error log in
> /var/lib/pgsql/upgrade_postgresql.log which tells me to read the last few
> lines of
> >
> /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_upgrade_output.d/20230505T172148.011/log/pg_upgrade_dump_16385.log.
> But I'm not able to find the files. Even after a complete search of my
> system using find.
> >
> > Any suggestions on how to find the error log or to successfully upgrade
> Postgresql?
>
> I've tried uusing postgresql-setup upgrade a few times and have never been
> fully successful using it.
>
> I have a set of notes and scripts that have worked for me over the last
> eight years. I am appending them below. YMMV
>
> Max
> p...@brama.com
>
> General outline of steps:
> 
> I. Pre Fedora/PostgreSQL (in this case 37-> 38) upgrade
> Backup databases
> Make note of all users ( \du in monitor )
>
> (use sudo where root work is required)
>
> II. Post Fedora/PostgreSQL (37-> 38) upgrade
> Initialize postgresql (First six steps adapted from here:
> http://tso.bzb.us/2016/06/postgresql-upgrade-fedora-24.html)
>
> Install the upgrade utilities:  dnf install postgresql-upgrade
> Become user postgres:   su - postgres
> Rename the data directory:  mv /var/lib/pgsql/data/
> /var/lib/pgsql/data_/
> As root, initialize your new (in this case v 15.1.2) database:  sudo
> postgresql-setup initdb |or| postgresql-setup --initdb --unit postgresql
> As user postgres, Copy your pg_hba.conf:  cp
> /var/lib/pgsql/data_/pg_hba.conf/
> /var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_hba.conf/
> To avoid any potential password issues, temporarily change "md5" to
> "trust" in both pg_hba.conf files
>
> start postgresql
> As root, systemctl restart postgresql (generally "restart" is more
> successful than "start;" could be detris left behind)
>
> As postgres, run postgis script  - run
> CreateTemplatePostgis-.sh Script below)
>
> As postgres, create users (createuser -i someusername)
>
> Create databases make sure users are correct and postgis template is
> utilized for postgis database (createdb  -T template_postgis ngdata)
>
>- Restore databases
>
>
> ### Backup Script ##
> #!/usr/bin/bash
>
> for DBASE in 
> do
>  BACKUPDIR="/path/to/backup/dir"
>  DBASEB="$BACKUPDIR/$DBASE.out"
>
>  pg_dump -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres -Fc -b -v -f $DBASEB
> $DBASE
>
> pg_dump -U pyz $DBNAME > "$BACKUPDIR/$DBNAME"
>
> sleep 2
>
> done
>
> ### End Backup Script ##
>
> ### Make PostGIS template Script (if needed) 
> #!/usr/bin/env bash
> POSTGIS_SQL_PATH=`pg_config --sharedir`/contrib/postgis-3.3
> createdb -E UTF8 template_postgis # Create the template spatial database.
> # createlang -d template_postgis plpgsql # Adding PLPGSQL language
> support.
> psql -d template_postgis -c "CREATE LANGUAGE plpgsql ;"
> psql -d postgres -c "UPDATE pg_database SET datistemplate='true' WHERE
> datname='template_postgis';"
> psql -d template_postgis -f $POSTGIS_SQL_PATH/postgis.sql # Loading the
> PostGIS SQL routines
> psql -d template_postgis -f $POSTGIS_SQL_PATH/spatial_ref_sys.sql
> psql -d template_postgis -c "GRANT ALL ON geometry_columns TO PUBLIC;" #
> Enabling users to alter spatial tables.
> psql -d template_postgis -c "GRANT ALL ON geography_columns TO PUBLIC;"
> psql -d template_postgis -c "GRANT ALL ON spatial_ref_sys TO PUBLIC;"
> ### End PostGIS template if needed 
>
> ## Create Databases ###
> #!/usr/bin/bash
>
> # Create Non-PostGIS databases
> createdb SomeDBName
>
> # Create PostGIS databases
> createdb  -T template_postgis SomePostGISDBName
> ## End Create Databases ###
>
>
> ### Restore Databases Script ##
> #!/usr/bin/bash
>
> for DBASE in 
> do
> BACKUPDIR="/path/to/backup/dir"
> DBASEB="$BACKUPDIR/$DBASE.out"
> #   perl /usr/share/pgsql/contrib/postgis-2.2/postgis_restore.pl
> $DBASEB | psql -h localhost -p 5432 -U postgres $DBASE
> psql  -f $DBASEB $DBASE
> done
> ### End Restore Databases Script ##
>
> I've done something similar but not scripted. I will be manually creating
a new database and then copying a backup into postgresql.

Fortunat

Postgresql upgrade from 14 to 15

[Clifford Snow]

I just successfully upgraded my laptop to Fedora 38.

Unfortunately, upgrading postgresql isn't working for me. Running
postgresql-setup upgrade produces and error log in
/var/lib/pgsql/upgrade_postgresql.log which tells me to read the last few
lines of
/var/lib/pgsql/data/pg_upgrade_output.d/20230505T172148.011/log/pg_upgrade_dump_16385.log.
But I'm not able to find the files. Even after a complete search of my
system using find.

Any suggestions on how to find the error log or to successfully upgrade
Postgresql?

Thanks,
Clifford

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Re: Bluetooth Earbuds

[Clifford Snow]

SOLVED

While these were paired sometime ago, they must have dropped off. I
simply repaired the earbuds and now they work just fine.

Should have done the obvious first thing.

Best,
Clifford

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>
>
> Sent from my Android phone.
>
> On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 1:46 PM Geoffrey Leach 
> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:11:41 -0700
>> Clifford Snow  wrote:
>>
>> > I'm trying to use earbuds on a Fedora 36 laptop but I'm unable to get
>> > sound out of the earbuds. Gnome Settings shows the ear buds paired
>> > but nothing in type. The sound settings only offer the laptop speaker.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions on getting the earbuds to work?
>>
>> Your laptop has Bluetooth hardware, yes?
>>
>
>
> Yes, the laptop has Bluetooth and is used for the mouse.
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Re: Bluetooth Earbuds

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Sent from my Android phone.

On Thu, Aug 11, 2022, 1:46 PM Geoffrey Leach 
wrote:

> On Thu, 11 Aug 2022 13:11:41 -0700
> Clifford Snow  wrote:
>
> > I'm trying to use earbuds on a Fedora 36 laptop but I'm unable to get
> > sound out of the earbuds. Gnome Settings shows the ear buds paired
> > but nothing in type. The sound settings only offer the laptop speaker.
> >
> > Any suggestions on getting the earbuds to work?
>
> Your laptop has Bluetooth hardware, yes?
>


Yes, the laptop has Bluetooth and is used for the mouse.

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Bluetooth Earbuds

[Clifford Snow]

I'm trying to use earbuds on a Fedora 36 laptop but I'm unable to get sound
out of the earbuds. Gnome Settings shows the ear buds paired but nothing in
type. The sound settings only offer the laptop speaker.

Any suggestions on getting the earbuds to work?

Thanks,
Clifford

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Re: dnf

[Clifford Snow]

If I understand your question, just use

dnf search packagename

Best,
Clifford


On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:04 AM Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I would like to check if a package in available for installation by using
> dnf
> without installation.
>
> Thank
>
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Re: NVIDIA on F35

[Clifford Snow]

On Thu, Dec 9, 2021 at 5:53 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

>
> If you're using GNOME then choose the user and when you're on the password
> screen there will be a "gear icon"
> in the lower right.  Click on it before you enter the password and you can
> select Gnome on X11.
>

Thanks Ed, that did the trick. The GNOME selector gave me three choices,
Gnome, Gnome Classic, and Gnome Wayland.  The first choice, Gnome appears
to be the X11 version.

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NVIDIA on F35

[Clifford Snow]

I updated to F35 this week. The upgrade was fast and smooth. I'm currently
left with a couple of problems. A minor problem is that pgadmin4 doesn't
work. I spend most of my time using the psql command line interface to
Postgresql anyway so it's not a big deal. My struggle is with my NVIDIA
card.

The problem is the NVIDIA module isn't loading on boot and instead falling
back to the nouveau driver.

I have a NVIDIA Quadro K4000. From my reading of requirements to run
Wayland with NVIDIA, the 495 driver is needed. Unfortunately it's not
available for this video card as best as I can tell.

I saw a hint that Fedora can be dropped back to using X11. Has anyone seen
any instructions on how to do this?

Thanks in advance,
Clifford

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Re: Problem with script

[Clifford Snow]

Also check at -l, or atq to see if it is scheduled to run later.


On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 11:12 AM Paul Smith  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 7:09 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:
> >
> > > I am trying to run a script with the following command:
> > >
> > > echo "~/scripts/teste.sh" | at 5:59PM
> > >
> > > but nothing happens.
> >
> > Try putting some echo commands into the script, redirected to a file so
> > that you can see if the script runs at all, and if so, how far it gets.
>
> Thanks, Joe. I am going to try that, but the following log may help to
> trace down the problem:
>
> ---
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost atd[45259]: Starting job 110
> (a0006e01a0663b) for user 'x' (1000)
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost audit[45259]: USER_ACCT pid=45259 uid=0
> auid=4294967295 ses=4294967295
> subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023 msg='op=PAM:accounting
> grantors=pam_access,pam_unix,pam_localuser acct="x"
> exe="/usr/sbin/atd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=atd res=success'
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost systemd-logind[1147]: New session 17 of user x.
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost systemd[1]: Started Session 17 of User x.
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost atd[45259]: pam_unix(atd:session): session
> opened for user x(uid=1000) by (uid=0)
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost audit[45259]: USER_START pid=45259 uid=0
> auid=1000 ses=17 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> msg='op=PAM:session_open
> grantors=pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix
> acct="x" exe="/usr/sbin/atd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=atd
> res=success'
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost audit[45259]: CRED_ACQ pid=45259 uid=0
> auid=1000 ses=17 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_env,pam_localuser,pam_unix
> acct="x" exe="/usr/sbin/atd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=atd
> res=success'
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost atd[45263]: Exec failed for mail command: No
> such file or directory
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost audit[45259]: CRED_DISP pid=45259 uid=0
> auid=1000 ses=17 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> msg='op=PAM:setcred grantors=pam_env,pam_env,pam_localuser,pam_unix
> acct="x" exe="/usr/sbin/atd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=atd
> res=success'
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost atd[45259]: pam_unix(atd:session): session
> closed for user x
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost audit[45259]: USER_END pid=45259 uid=0
> auid=1000 ses=17 subj=system_u:system_r:crond_t:s0-s0:c0.c1023
> msg='op=PAM:session_close
> grantors=pam_loginuid,pam_keyinit,pam_limits,pam_systemd,pam_unix
> acct="x" exe="/usr/sbin/atd" hostname=? addr=? terminal=atd
> res=success'
> Nov 19 19:07:00 localhost systemd[1]: session-17.scope: Deactivated
> successfully.
> ---
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Re: Slack dropping Fedora support

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This is really unfortunate. I'm part of a large US OpenStreetMap community
on Slack. I'm also on OSM groups on Forums, Telegram and was on Discord.
None are designed to support large diverse communities. Note we are going
to create an instance of Discourse.

But obviously even if the community were to drop Slack, Slack probably
wouldn't care. But it does provide reinforcement to those that won't use
proprietary systems. It will likely drive me there as well.

Clifford

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 2:27 PM John Westerdale  wrote:

> Got this from Slack.
>
> Fedora users represented a very small number of our user base. In order to
> ensure we're able to deliver the best possible experience for the largest
> number of users, it is necessary for Slack to focus our efforts and
> narrow our scope. Given the small number of users, we were no longer able
> to justify the cost of supporting Fedora.
>
> When Fedora is deprecated, you'll still be able to access Slack but
> eventually your experience may degrade over time as you won't be able to
> update your app. Eventually, the last app version available to Fedora users
> will be deprecated as well.
>
> Here's a bit more about what to expect and the deprecation:
> https://slack.com/help/articles/150026321-Slack
> -deprecation-policy-for-app-versions-browsers-and-operating-systems#desktop-1
>
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2021, 5:21 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
>
>> On 11/14/21 10:07, SternData wrote:
>> > This just popped up on Slack:  "Note: Starting March 1, 2022, Slack
>> will
>> > no longer support Fedora Linux distributions."
>> >
>> > Anyone know what's going on?  And maybe interested in engaging them on
>> > Twitter @slackhq to ask for reconsideration?
>>
>> There was a thread about this on the devel list:
>>
>> https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/de...@lists.fedoraproject.org/thread/DXS2A7C5RDW2DQYSJWZUD57VXVPKV6AD/#HZSOTA7GA3DQRQ3IRNZESCPZCQZP2KYU
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Re: Slack dropping Fedora support

[Clifford Snow]

On Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 10:07 AM SternData 
wrote:

> This just popped up on Slack:  "Note: Starting March 1, 2022, Slack will
> no longer support Fedora Linux distributions."
>
> Anyone know what's going on?  And maybe interested in engaging them on
> Twitter @slackhq to ask for reconsideration?
>
> I haven't seen anything on Slack indicating that the rpm will no longer be
supported. Where did this notice pop up?

Their download page still has rpm downloads for Fedora. They also have snap
packages. I haven't installed any snap packages since there was a warning
of security issues with snap packages.

They also have a page [1] with new slack pubkeys. There are instructions
for two versions, 4.22 and above and 4.21 and below. I've never seen
anything except for 4.21.

[1]
https://slack.com/help/articles/115004809166-Verify-Slack-for-Linux--beta--package-signatures

Best,
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Re: Touchpad 2- & 3-finger gestures don't work on Wayland

[Clifford Snow]

My laptop, just a few months old, the trackpad works as expected running
wayland on FC35.



On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 9:57 AM Ian Pilcher  wrote:

> Trying out Wayland on F35, and things are looking good, except that
> multi-finger gestures (clicking and dragging) don't work properly in
> Wayland.  (They appear to be treated as their single-finger
> equivalents.)
>
> I've verified that they do still work on X11 (using KDE/Plasma in both
> cases).
>
> Is this a known limitation of Wayland?
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Re: f35 initial impressions

[Clifford Snow]

I updated a laptop to Fedora 35 using a Software application after doing a
complete backup. So far everything is working as expected.  I'm running
Gnome 41 with wayland.  Past upgrades to Postgresql and PostGIS have been
problematic, usually involving moving to the next major release. The minor
upgrade to Postgres from 13.3 to 13.4 was no problem. PostGIS
version stayed the same.

I used the Fedora linux updates indicator on the Gnome Shell on my
workstation. It still doesn't work with wayland which is running on this
laptop.

So far everything else works beautifully. Kudo's to all the developers.
That's why I love Fedora.

Clifford



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> I installed fedora 35 on one machine using the dnf upgrade
> process and on another machine from scratch followed by manual
> configuration to copy previous install. Both seem to be
> working well. The missing arduino stuff doesn't seem to be
> used as I can still compile the Marlin firmware successfully
> without it.
>
> Had severe problems getting bind to work as my local LAN DNS
> provider, every release seems to have brought more "deprecated"
> messages, so I finally chucked it and switched to dnsmasq.
> Clearly I should have done that long ago, it works great and
> it vastly simpler to configure. Haven't found anything else
> busted yet.
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Re: slack.

[Clifford Snow]

I use the Slack repo for Fedora. slack.repo
[slack]
name=slack
baseurl=https://packagecloud.io/slacktechnologies/slack/fedora/21/x86_64
enabled=1
gpgcheck=0
gpgkey=https://packagecloud.io/gpg.key
sslverify=1
sslcacert=/etc/pki/tls/certs/ca-bundle.crt

Works very well and is updated regularly

More info at https://slack.com/downloads/linux. Also available as a snap
but I avoid snap applications. I seem to recall some security issues with
them a while back.

Best,
Clifford


On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 11:19 AM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 03/08/2021 01:59, home user wrote:
> > Good morning,
> >
> > I've been asked to join a "Slack" team.  I did a "dnf provides slack"
> and got nothing.  Before I try doing things the hard way (via the Slack web
> site), is slack actually not available via dnf, or did I do the query
> incorrectly (wrong name?)?
> >
> > By the way, I see from "dnf provides zoom" that zoom is now available
> via dnf.
>
> You mean this slack?
>
> Slack is a proprietary business communication platform developed by
> American software company Slack Technologies. Slack offers many IRC-style
> features, including persistent chat rooms organized by topic, private
> groups, and direct messaging
>
> https://slack.com/
>
> ?
>
> "proprietary" would be a big clue as to why it isn't part of Fedora.
>
> But, you do have.
>
> [egreshko@meimei ~]$ dnf search slack
> Last metadata expiration check: 1 day, 7:15:05 ago on Sun Aug  1 18:57:19
> 2021.
> = Name & Summary Matched: slack
> ==
> golang-github-nlopes-slack-devel.noarch : Slack API in Go
> python3-slackclient.noarch : Slack Developer Kit for Python
> python3-slacker.noarch : Python Slack API client
> python3-slacker-doc.noarch : Documentation files for python-slacker
> = Summary Matched: slack
> =
> alien.noarch : Converter between the rpm, dpkg, stampede slp, and
> Slackware tgz
>   : file formats
> ripcord.x86_64 : a lightweight chat client for Slack and Discord
> scudcloud.noarch : Non official desktop client for Slack
>
> Which "may" be helpful at some point.
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Re: SD card Timestamp

[Clifford Snow]

On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 5:54 PM Fulko Hew  wrote:

>
>
> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 8:28 PM Clifford Snow 
> wrote:
>
>> Recently I've noticed that the file timestamp is 7 hours earlier than
>> when the file was created. This is happening on both an SD card I use in a
>> camera as well as my dashcam. Both the camera and the dashcam have been set
>> for the correct date and time. Neither gives me the option for entering the
>> timezone. It's not a big issue, but it's a hassle when looking for an image
>> or video taken around a particular time.
>>
>> Looking at the Exif data on the dashcam video, it has recorded the
>> correct time to the exif data. But pulling up the sd card, the video time
>> is 7 hours earlier.
>>
>> Anyone have suggestions on how to fix this?
>>
>
> Just a guess, but I would assume you set the clock on your camera to your
> local time,
> and the OS is assuming that time is UTC.   ... and you are 7 time zones
> away from UTC.
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The device was set for the local time with no options for timezone. What is
interesting is the dashcam file name includes the correct date and time,
but the file time is 7 hours earlier. And yes, I live 7 hours off of UTC.

For example a file with the filename of 2021_0771_131537_062.MP4 has a time
stamp of 7/21/2021 06:20 AM (Note the video is 5 minutes long so it would
have been written at 13:20 pm. )


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SD card Timestamp

[Clifford Snow]

Recently I've noticed that the file timestamp is 7 hours earlier than when
the file was created. This is happening on both an SD card I use in a
camera as well as my dashcam. Both the camera and the dashcam have been set
for the correct date and time. Neither gives me the option for entering the
timezone. It's not a big issue, but it's a hassle when looking for an image
or video taken around a particular time.

Looking at the Exif data on the dashcam video, it has recorded the correct
time to the exif data. But pulling up the sd card, the video time is 7
hours earlier.

Anyone have suggestions on how to fix this?

Thanks in advance,
Clifford

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Re: Fedora on IRC

[Clifford Snow]

I'm connected to #fedora on irc.libera.chat:6667. I haven't been active on
that channel but the channel is active.

Hope that helps

On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 6:25 AM Earl Ramirez  wrote:

> God day,
>
> Pardon my ignorance, did Fedora moved from freenode to LibraIRC, I
> checked both and sent test messages but haven't received any response.
> In the past it was more active.
>
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Re: Segmentation Fault using gdal with Python 3

[Clifford Snow]

Thanks everyone for their suggestions. I believe my problem is that I've
installed postgis from the postgresql PGDG repository and it's conflicting
with the Fedora python gdal files. Not sure If I need to just use Fedora's
postgresql version or if there is another workaround.

On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 4:18 AM George N. White III 
wrote:

> On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 23:37, Clifford Snow 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm getting a segmentation fault (core dump) when using the osgeo gdal
>> modules. Otherwise no problem.
>>
>> I'm looking for some suggestions on how to troubleshoot this. I can't
>> even seem to find the core dump file.
>>
>> For example, using the python interpreter with a simple program as:
>> >>> from osgeo import gdal
>> >>> quit()
>> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
>>
>
> You should show the complete output as in:
> ~% python3 ; echo $?
> Python 3.9.5 (default, May 14 2021, 00:00:00)
> [GCC 11.1.1 20210428 (Red Hat 11.1.1-1)] on linux
> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
> >>> from osgeo import gdal
> >>> quit()
> 0
>
> I can't reproduce your problem on Fedora 33 or 34.   More details (Fedora
> version,
> python version) might help.  Is it possible you have old python packages
> installed
> in /usr/local or ~/.local?  Are you using a 3rd party python (Anaconda,
> etc.)? Have
> you tried "python3 -d -E -c 'from osgeo import gdal'?  Have you set
> "PYTHONPATH"?
>
> https://pythondev.readthedocs.io/debug_tools.html
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Re: Segmentation Fault using gdal with Python 3

[Clifford Snow]

Michael,

On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 10:44 PM Michael Hennebry <
henne...@web.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, 27 May 2021, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> > I'm looking for some suggestions on how to troubleshoot this. I can't
> even
> > seem to find the core dump file.
>
> My guess is that there is not one.
> ulimit -c
> will probably tell you the your cose size limit is zero.
>

ulimit -c reports unlimited

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Segmentation Fault using gdal with Python 3

[Clifford Snow]

I'm getting a segmentation fault (core dump) when using the osgeo gdal
modules. Otherwise no problem.

I'm looking for some suggestions on how to troubleshoot this. I can't even
seem to find the core dump file.

For example, using the python interpreter with a simple program as:
>>> from osgeo import gdal
>>> quit()
Segmentation fault (core dumped)

I've reinstalled python3-gdal and gdal-python-tools with no help.

Thanks in advance,
Clifford

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Re: New kernel errors after last update, Fedora 33

[Clifford Snow]

I'm running 5.10.15-200.fc33.x86_64 and have not seen those errors.

On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 9:34 AM Jerome Lille 
wrote:

> After the latest update there are some errors in the log that I haven't
> seen before.
>
> kernel: xs_tcp_setup_socket: connect returned unhandled error -107
>
> There are two of those per minute continuously. I haven't noticed any
> other problems with the system, but wondering about those messages are
> about.
>
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Re: What to do about a GUI application not appearing in Gnome Software?

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On Mon, Feb 15, 2021 at 2:45 PM Jerry James  wrote:

>
>
> So no, there is no appdata or metainfo file in the package, which is
> why it does not appear in Gnome Software.  File a bug against rstudio
> if you want the maintainers to do something about that.
>
> I agree with Jerry - file a request with RStudio. According to the RStudio
website they haven't released an updated version since they released
rstudio-1.4.1103-x86_64.rpm for Fedora 28.

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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[Clifford Snow]

did you check to ensure that any extension USB cable being used is rated
for USB3?

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> The only working USB devices on this computer are the wired USB keyboard
> and the wired USB mouse.   Not sure which they are in the tree above, I
> don't want to unplug anything at the moment as I'm getting work done.
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Re: xnview

[Clifford Snow]

The instructions from Fedora for appimage
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/AppImage have you do a chmod +x on the
appimage file then just ./appimage file

It's been a while since I installed on but it worked just as described.



On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 2:19 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> I downloaed XnView_MP.glibc2.18-x86_64.AppImage
> assumed that it is an executable
> /tmp/.mount_XnViewC8i529/usr/XnView/XnView: symbol lookup error:
> /lib64/libkrb5.so.3: undefined symbol: krb5int_push_fscreatecon_for,
> version krb5support_0_MIT
>
> Do I need to install appimage?
> It is not available for fedora32
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> *Sent:* Saturday, January 30, 2021 at 10:57 PM
> *From:* "Clifford Snow" 
> *To:* "Community support for Fedora users" 
> *Subject:* Re: xnview
> I would suggest using the appimage from their website at
> https://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/#downloads
>
> I haven't tried it on my Fedora 33 but it should work since everything
> needed is in the appimage package.
>
> Best,
> Clifford
>
> On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 1:17 PM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I did not find xnview for fedora.
>> Is there an alternative?
>>
>> I also installed XnViewMP-linux-x64.tgz, but I get:
>> /usr/src/misc/XnView/XnView: error while loading shared libraries:
>> libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>
>> Can I fix this issue?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
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Re: xnview

[Clifford Snow]

I would suggest using the appimage from their website at
https://www.xnview.com/en/xnviewmp/#downloads

I haven't tried it on my Fedora 33 but it should work since everything
needed is in the appimage package.

Best,
Clifford

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> Hello,
>
> I did not find xnview for fedora.
> Is there an alternative?
>
> I also installed XnViewMP-linux-x64.tgz, but I get:
> /usr/src/misc/XnView/XnView: error while loading shared libraries:
> libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>
> Can I fix this issue?
>
> Thanks.
>
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Re: Calibre on Fedora 33

[Clifford Snow]

I've installed version 5.90 from source. No additional python modules
required from what I've ready installed. Also installed DeDRM 7.0.3.

Calibre works great. Unfortunately the current version of DeDRM doesn't
remove DRM from epubs for me. I'll keep an eye on
https://github.com/apprenticeharper/DeDRM_tools and will try the next
version to see if that works.

Patrick O'Callaghan you said DeDRM worked for you. Did that include epubs?

Clifford


On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:32 AM David King  wrote:

> On 1/12/21 10:00 AM, Clifford Snow wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > > Fedora moved calibre to python3 much sooner than upstream did
> > because
> > > python2 was being phased out in fedora. Unfortunately, we can't
> > upgrade
> > > to 5.x due to some dependencies in other packages not being
> > ready yet.
> > > ;(
> >
> > Fascinating. I wonder why DeDRM is working for me then, on F33, with
> > Python 3 as the system-wide default?
> >
> >
> > I'm running a fresh install of F33. By any chance your's is an upgrade
> > from a prior version with python2?
>
> Yes, it was.  I originally had F29, with Calibre 4 installed through
> their installer, plus DeDRM.  When I upgraded to F32, and Python 3
> become the default, I at first thought I should upgrade to Calibre v5.
> However, doing that broke DeDRM.  That got me doing research and, when I
> tried installing the Fedora Calibre 4.23 package, things "just worked."
> I didn't touch the DeDRM code plugin during that upgrade process, it
> remained what it was when I started.  I've since upgraded to F33 without
> any issues.
>
> My "why is it working for me?" question was largely rhetorical, btw.
> Just to be clear.  :-)
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Re: Calibre on Fedora 33

[Clifford Snow]

>
> Dave,
>
> > Fedora moved calibre to python3 much sooner than upstream did because
> > python2 was being phased out in fedora. Unfortunately, we can't upgrade
> > to 5.x due to some dependencies in other packages not being ready yet.
> > ;(
>
> Fascinating. I wonder why DeDRM is working for me then, on F33, with
> Python 3 as the system-wide default?
>
>
I'm running a fresh install of F33. By any chance your's is an upgrade from
a prior version with python2?

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Re: Calibre on Fedora 33

[Clifford Snow]

On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 1:02 PM Kevin Fenzi  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 09, 2021 at 08:37:03PM -0500, David King wrote:
> > On 1/9/21 8:05 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
> > > I'm wanting to run Calibre with DeDRM. Version 5 of Calibre was written
> > > for Python3 while version 4 was written in Python2. DeDRM is only
> > > available for Python2. Python3 support is being worked on but is still
> > > in development.
> > >
> > > Has anyone found a good workaround until DeDRM for Python3 is
> available?
> >
> > Calibre 4.23.0 is the version that is packaged and available from the
> Fedora
> > 33 repositories.  It runs under Python 2 so DeDRM work just fine with
> it.
>
> Yes, and no.
>
> 4.23.0 is in f33, but it is using python3, not python2.
>
> Fedora moved calibre to python3 much sooner than upstream did because
> python2 was being phased out in fedora. Unfortunately, we can't upgrade
> to 5.x due to some dependencies in other packages not being ready yet.
> ;(
>
> > I've been using this for some time without issue.
>
> With the python3 plugin it should work I would think...
>

I agree that the existing python2 plugins don't work. For example DeDRM
6.8.1 errors out with python 2 print statement instead of the python3
print() statement.
The DeDRM built for python3 fails to install on Calibre 4.23 with an error
that the plugin requires  a version of Calibrer >= 5.0.0.

I'll give Calibre 5.0.0 a try as suggested by Patrick O'Callaghan.

Thanks,
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Calibre on Fedora 33

[Clifford Snow]

I'm wanting to run Calibre with DeDRM. Version 5 of Calibre was written for
Python3 while version 4 was written in Python2. DeDRM is only available for
Python2. Python3 support is being worked on but is still in development.

Has anyone found a good workaround until DeDRM for Python3 is available?

Happy New Year,
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Re: Search engines -

[Clifford Snow]

I second duckduckgo as a better search engine. I've been using it for years
as default on my desktop and mobile devices. Occasionally I use google if
I'm having trouble finding what I'm looking for but rarely does it do a
better job.

Clifford

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> On Fri, 18 Dec 2020 10:57:50 -0500
> Bob Goodwin  wrote:
>
> > Can anyone suggest an
> > alternative?
>
> I've long abandoned google for largely the reasons you set out.I use
> either duckduckgo or startpage with useful and much quieter results.
> Google does have some comparative strengths but I can revert
> temporarily if I need to.
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Re: Recommendations for video-conferencing setup

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I'm running Fedora 32 with a cheap webcam with Zoom. I actually haven't
tried the webcam speakers instead use a usb headset. Never had a problem.

On Tue, Nov 10, 2020 at 11:48 AM SternData 
wrote:

> Zoom works great with my webcam and its dual mics.  Logitech C920,
> around $100.
>
>
>
> On 11/10/20 11:49 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:
> > I occasionally participate in Zoom calls using my Android tablet, and
> > everything Just Works(tm). I'd like to do the same on my desktop with
> > Fedora, but despite testing three different cheap webcams the big issue
> > is always with the sound. I can hear the other people perfectly, and
> > the video is fine, but the audio from my side is muddy and nearly
> > impossible to understand. I've tried with and without headphones in
> > case it's a feedback issue (though not using the headphone mic). It
> > doesn't make any difference. Surely not all the webcam mics can be so
> > bad? How would anyone ever use them?
> >
> > Is there some Pulse filter I can use to improve the audio quality? What
> > are people doing in this situation?
> >
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Re: GDAL Code Dump

[Clifford Snow]

I have two libgdal
/usr/gdal30/lib/libgdal.so.26 -> libgdal.so.26.0.4
/usr/lib64/libgdal.so.26.0.4

Removing the gdal30 version solved the problem. Interesting - I grep gdal
from dnf list installed and gdal30 never showed up.

Thank you very much.

Clifford


On Fri, Sep 11, 2020 at 4:45 PM George N. White III 
wrote:

> On Fri, 11 Sep 2020 at 19:16, Clifford Snow 
> wrote:
>
>> I'm getting a core dump using any of the gdal utilities on F32. For
>> example running orginfo --help returns
>>
>> Usage: ogrinfo [--help-general] [-ro] [-q] [-where
>> restricted_where|@filename]
>>[-spat xmin ymin xmax ymax] [-geomfield field] [-fid fid]
>>[-sql statement|@filename] [-dialect sql_dialect] [-al]
>> [-rl] [-so] [-fields={YES/NO}]
>>[-geom={YES/NO/SUMMARY}] [[-oo NAME=VALUE] ...]
>>[-nomd] [-listmdd] [-mdd domain|`all`]*
>>[-nocount] [-noextent] [-wkt_format WKT1|WKT2|...]
>>datasource_name [layer [layer ...]]
>> free(): invalid pointer
>> Aborted (core dumped)
>>
>
> I can't reproduce this. I have:
>
>  % sudo dnf info gdal
> Last metadata expiration check: 2:23:09 ago on Fri 11 Sep 2020 05:45:35 PM.
> Installed Packages
> Name : gdal
> Version  : 3.0.4
> Release  : 2.fc32
> Architecture : x86_64
> Size : 768 k
> Source   : gdal-3.0.4-2.fc32.src.rpm
> Repository   : @System
> From repo: fedora
> Summary  : GIS file format library
> URL  : http://www.gdal.org
> License  : MIT
> Description  : Geospatial Data Abstraction Library (GDAL/OGR) is a cross
> platform
>  : C++ translator library for raster and vector geospatial
> data formats.
>  : As a library, it presents a single abstract data model to
> the calling
>  : application for all supported formats. It also comes with a
> variety of
>  : useful commandline utilities for data translation and
> processing.
>  :
>  : It provides the primary data access engine for many
> applications.
>  : GDAL/OGR is the most widely used geospatial data access
> library.
>>
>>
>> I tried reinstalling all components but still have the same problem.
>> Bugzilla doesn't show any open bugs. Is anyone else experiencing problems
>> with GDAL?
>>
>
> I installed GDAL 3.1.0dev-ecdba6e855, released 2020/01/08, from source on
> Fedora 31 to /usr/local, then recently upgraded to Fedora 32, which added
> gdal-3.0.4, but after upgrading to Fedora 32, I was getting:
>
>  % ldd /usr/bin/ogrinfo | grep libgdal
> libgdal.so.26 => /usr/local/lib/libgdal.so.26 (0x7fde1863b000)
>
> Do you have some older libgdal hanging around?
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GDAL Code Dump

[Clifford Snow]

I'm getting a core dump using any of the gdal utilities on F32. For example
running orginfo --help returns

Usage: ogrinfo [--help-general] [-ro] [-q] [-where
restricted_where|@filename]
   [-spat xmin ymin xmax ymax] [-geomfield field] [-fid fid]
   [-sql statement|@filename] [-dialect sql_dialect] [-al]
[-rl] [-so] [-fields={YES/NO}]
   [-geom={YES/NO/SUMMARY}] [[-oo NAME=VALUE] ...]
   [-nomd] [-listmdd] [-mdd domain|`all`]*
   [-nocount] [-noextent] [-wkt_format WKT1|WKT2|...]
   datasource_name [layer [layer ...]]
free(): invalid pointer
Aborted (core dumped)


I tried reinstalling all components but still have the same problem.
Bugzilla doesn't show any open bugs. Is anyone else experiencing problems
with GDAL?

Thanks,
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Re: Upgrade F30 to F31

[Clifford Snow]

Update on my original post. Thanks to Matthew Dash to Dock is working
great.

I also fixed a problem with Gnome freezing. I tried negativo Nvidia repo.
Unfortunately my graphics card was too old for the repo. However,
installing new repo required removing all of the fusion nvidia rpms. I did
find some old versions of some of the fusions rpms. They were all removed.
Reinstall Nvidia through the Fusion rpms seems to have solved the freezing
problem.

Best,
Clifford

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wrote:

> Yesterday I upgraded to F31 after doing a backup. The upgrade was quick
> and smooth.
>
> So of the minor details:
> I was running Postgresql 11 which as upgraded to 12. PostGIS 3.0 was
> installed but I still needed to manually run in psql  "ALTER EXTENSION
> postgis UPDATE;" and "ALTER EXTENSION postgis_topology UPDATE;" to
> complete the upgrade.
>
> Gnome 3.34.1 seems faster but I don't have any data to back that up. I'm
> still experiencing periods where Gnome screen hangs even though the mouse
> and keyboard inputs are still being recognized. Not sure what is causing -
> it's just a minor annoyance.
>
> Switching from python2 to python3 affected just one of my shell scripts.
> For right now, I just changed from python  to python2
>  Later I'll upgrade the script to version 3.
>
> In F30 I was running a gnome extension Dock or Dash to Dock. (I can't
> remember which) Dock remains as an extension but doesn't work so gnome is
> the default configuration. I miss having the application icons on the
> bottom of my screen.
>
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Re: Upgrade F30 to F31

[Clifford Snow]

On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 11:18 AM Matthew Saltzman  wrote:

>
> If you installed Dash-to-dock by hand in your own Gnome shell (from the
> extensions Website), remove it and install the Fedora package for it:
> gnome-shell-extension-dash-to-dock-67-1.fc31.noarch.
>
> Matthew Saltzman
>

Thanks Matthew - worked perfectly.

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Upgrade F30 to F31

[Clifford Snow]

Yesterday I upgraded to F31 after doing a backup. The upgrade was quick and
smooth.

So of the minor details:
I was running Postgresql 11 which as upgraded to 12. PostGIS 3.0 was
installed but I still needed to manually run in psql  "ALTER EXTENSION
postgis UPDATE;" and "ALTER EXTENSION postgis_topology UPDATE;" to complete
the upgrade.

Gnome 3.34.1 seems faster but I don't have any data to back that up. I'm
still experiencing periods where Gnome screen hangs even though the mouse
and keyboard inputs are still being recognized. Not sure what is causing -
it's just a minor annoyance.

Switching from python2 to python3 affected just one of my shell scripts.
For right now, I just changed from python  to python2
 Later I'll upgrade the script to version 3.

In F30 I was running a gnome extension Dock or Dash to Dock. (I can't
remember which) Dock remains as an extension but doesn't work so gnome is
the default configuration. I miss having the application icons on the
bottom of my screen.

Best,
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Re: Wifi systens -

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Bob,
I recently installed a mesh system in my house. While the house is
relatively small, it did have some dead spots with my old system. My old
system was a router with a repeater. The new system has a router with two
mesh devices. Coverage is complete but the reason I upgraded was to avoid
having different networks for different parts of the house. Now I can
"roam" throughout the house with no dead spots and not having to change
networks. Note - It worked good with just the main router and one mesh
device, but I decided to make sure it worked everywhere. Now I'm down to
just two networks, my home network and a guest network.

The other part of your question, how the hell does it do that. It does it
without using ethernet or powerline adaptors. For more info check out this
article
https://www.howtogeek.com/290418/what-are-mesh-wi-fi-systems-and-how-do-they-work/

Best,
Clifford

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> .
> Does anyone have experience with the so called "mesh wifi" systems. My
> daughter suggested that I need one after reading a review. All I can
> find is a lot of hype devoid of the things I would like to know, mainly
> how are the units interconnected? It occurs to me that they might use
> Ethernet via the ac power line.
>
> I would appreciate anything anyone might have to share on the subject.
>
> Bob
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Re: Fedora 30 snd Calc -

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I'm running 6.2.6.2 of Calc. The calculations work as expected. The formula
is =E1+G2-F2 which equals 6

  Col  E
FG
1 5 3 4
2 6 4 5







On Sun, Sep 1, 2019 at 1:30 PM Bob Goodwin  wrote:

> I need help getting LibreOffice Calc to accept a simple math function,
> =E1+G2-F2 and use it.
>
> Can someone point me to a good instruction for entering it? I simply
> want to add two columns, E and G, and subtract F. I've done this before
> with out a problem, can't seem to make it work in a new install ...
>
> Bob
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Re: CSV to text -

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Bob,
Isn't a csv already text? How do you want to change the csv file? Can you
give an example?

Best,
Clifford

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> How can I convert a .csv file to text in a Fedora system.
>
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Re: Mostly OT: recommendations for simple personal static website generator (Fedora 30)

[Clifford Snow]

Have you looked into GitHub pages?

Sent from my Android phone.

On Sat, Jul 27, 2019, 6:13 AM Ranjan Maitra  wrote:

> Dear friends,
>
> After over 20 years, I am having to create a new personal website. I
> looked around a little and feel that I would like to have a static website.
> So, I was wondering about possible recommendations available on Fedora 30
> (ideal) but otherwise that would be easy to get started on. I found
> something called getnicola.org but I was wondering if there are other
> more preferred options.
>
> Many thanks and best wishes,
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Re: OSM??

[Clifford Snow]

On Thu, May 23, 2019 at 2:11 PM Beartooth  wrote:

> On Tue, 21 May 2019 16:16:23 -0700, Dave Stevens wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 21 May 2019 17:26:03 - (UTC)
> > Beartooth  wrote:
>
>
> I've been mousing around like mad, and I still find an odd thing
> that I've always found before. OSM seems to be all about compiling data,
> rather than making actual maps, let alone using them. Also, btw,  I still
> see no trace of anything like topographic data.
>

OSM doesn't do topographic data

>
> That's a fine thing to do, and those who do it have a right to
> enthuse intensely; they're making discoveries and solving problems.
>
> However, what I'm really trying to do is make certain personal
> maps, to scale, marked with things I choose, whose spatial interrelations
> I want to study. For me, that study and what I can learn from it are the
> whole point.
>

Maybe you would be interested in QGIS. Open Source and cross platform.  You
can bring in data for OSM and other sources, create maps, and analyze data
all with QGIS. I use
https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/dani/qgis/ repository
which has the latest version. you will need python3 and GDAL. There is a
bit of a learning curve with any geospatial system, but QGIS has responsive
mailing list and there are user groups around the world.

Best,
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Re: OSM??

[Clifford Snow]

What exactly are you trying to accomplish? I've never heard of an .iso.
There is a java based editor, JOSM. I believe their might be a repo for it,
but I find just downloading the new JAR file every once in a while works
satisfactorily.

The OSM database, we call the plant, is quite large. It needs to be
downloaded from planet.openstreetmap.org. GeoFribrik at
download.geofabrik.de has extracts for parts of the world. And HOTOSM has
an export tool, https://export.hotosm.org/en/v3/, to grab areas for
download.

If you want to duplicate the website, look on github.

Gnome does have a extension with an OSM map which I find out of date so I
don't use it.

Best,
Clifford AKA Glassman on OSM



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>
> Can dnf get me OSM? I tried osm, OSM, and openstreetmap. I don't
> doubt there's some sort of .iso on their own site, but with a program so
> vast ...
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Re: OSM & GPS??

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On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 11:48 AM Beartooth  wrote:

> On Sat, 09 Feb 2019 14:59:57 -0800, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> > I would suggest using QGIS. It run great under Fedora. I use Dani's copr
> > repo for QGIS. (copy of repo below) It's has the latest version, 3.4
> > which is very stable. QGIS will natively open GPX tracks. Then you'll
> > want to get some backgrounds. I would add the QuickMapServices plugin.
> > Once the plugin is installed, Go to Web, QuickMapServices and open
> > settings. Under More service, select Get contributed pack. It will load
> > in more than a dozen backgrounds you can use.
>
> What does QuickMapServices plug into?  Dnf installed QGIS, and
> also mapnik, which I take to be relevant; but having had my share of
> dependency hell back in the day, I'm reluctant to update anything except
> via dnf. Is that going to make trouble?
>

It shouldn't. Plugins are fetched and I believe stored in your home
directory under ~/.local/share/QGIS/QGIS3

>
> There may be trouble already:
>
> $ qgis &
> [1] 12521
> [btth@localhost ~]$ Warning: loading of qgis translation failed [/usr/
> share/qgis/i18n//qgis_en_US]
> Warning: loading of qt translation failed [/usr/share/qt4/translations/
> qt_en_US]
> Warning: Object::connect: No such signal
> QgsMergedBookmarksTableModelselectItem(
> const
> QModelIndex  )
> Warning: Object::connect:  (receiver name: 'QgsBookmarksBase')
> Warning: QCss::Parser - Failed to load file  "/style.qss"
> QInotifyFileSystemWatcherEngine::addPaths: inotify_add_watch failed: No
> such file or directory
> Warning: QFileSystemWatcher: failed to add paths: /home/btth/.qgis2//
> project_templates
> loaded the Generic plugin
> Warning: QLayout: Attempting to add QLayout "" to QgsPanelWidgetStack
> "mWidgetStack", which already has a layout
>

Its possibly a conflict with python installations. I've been down that
road. Now when I install from pip/pip3 I use the --user option.

>
> > As a personal note from an active OSM contributor, please at least
> > consider uploading your tracks. Just go to osm.org and select GPX Tracks
> > to upload yours. If you are willing to put some extra effort, once
> > you've added your traces, please add your trail to OSM.
>
> I obviously need to learn the difference between a trail and a
> trace. Maybe it's in the matter I read yesterday; absent-mindedness,
> alas!, gets worse with age.
>

Use the gpx trace along with imagery to add the trail in OSM. Once the
trace is uploaded, it can be used as a background to add a line feature to
OSM. Using the browser based editor, iD, select the line feature to add
your trail. Tag the line as highway=path + a name= if its named. A gpx
trace from a consumer grade device can easily be off by 3 meters - if not
more.  By using imagery along with the gpx the trail can easily be more
accurate.

Good luck,
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Re: OSM & GPS??

[Clifford Snow]

copr_dani_qgis.repo
[dani-qgis]
name=Copr repo for qgis owned by dani
baseurl=
https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/dani/qgis/fedora-$releasever-$basearch/
type=rpm-md
skip_if_unavailable=True
gpgcheck=1
gpgkey=https://copr-be.cloud.fedoraproject.org/results/dani/qgis/pubkey.gpg
repo_gpgcheck=0
enabled=1
enabled_metadata=1

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 2:59 PM Clifford Snow 
wrote:

> I would suggest using QGIS. It run great under Fedora. I use Dani's copr
> repo for QGIS. (copy of repo below) It's has the latest version, 3.4 which
> is very stable. QGIS will natively open GPX tracks. Then you'll want to get
> some backgrounds. I would add the QuickMapServices plugin. Once the plugin
> is installed, Go to Web, QuickMapServices and open settings. Under More
> service, select Get contributed pack. It will load in more than a dozen
> backgrounds you can use.
>
> As a personal note from an active OSM contributor, please at least
> consider uploading your tracks. Just go to osm.org and select GPX Tracks
> to upload yours. If you are willing to put some extra effort, once you've
> added your traces, please add your trail to OSM.
>
> When I'm speaking to a group about OSM, I'm usually asked about quality,
> which is at least as good, if not better, than the others in large cities.
> But for trails, OSM has the most trails of any map service. 99% of those
> trails are added from gpx traces from people just like you.
>
> If you need help with OSM or QGIS, please contact me directly.
>
>
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Re: OSM & GPS??

[Clifford Snow]

I would suggest using QGIS. It run great under Fedora. I use Dani's copr
repo for QGIS. (copy of repo below) It's has the latest version, 3.4 which
is very stable. QGIS will natively open GPX tracks. Then you'll want to get
some backgrounds. I would add the QuickMapServices plugin. Once the plugin
is installed, Go to Web, QuickMapServices and open settings. Under More
service, select Get contributed pack. It will load in more than a dozen
backgrounds you can use.

As a personal note from an active OSM contributor, please at least consider
uploading your tracks. Just go to osm.org and select GPX Tracks to upload
yours. If you are willing to put some extra effort, once you've added your
traces, please add your trail to OSM.

When I'm speaking to a group about OSM, I'm usually asked about quality,
which is at least as good, if not better, than the others in large cities.
But for trails, OSM has the most trails of any map service. 99% of those
trails are added from gpx traces from people just like you.

If you need help with OSM or QGIS, please contact me directly.

Best,
Clifford

On Sat, Feb 9, 2019 at 1:37 PM Beartooth  wrote:

>
> I have a pair of old Garmin RINO 120 GPSs and a gadget to connect
> either of them, one at a time, to my PC, currently running F 29. For
> several years I could run topo map software under WINE -- unfree software
> from any, or almost any, of half a dozen vendors -- but never get any of
> them to talk to either GPS. Now there is Open Street Map, a.k.a. OSM,
> which I THINK runs natively under Linux.
>
> I have studied forums and followed discussion lists (with Pan and
> Gmane, since most of the content is obviously unrelated to my
> questions).  For years.
>
> It seems that everyone else is a mapMAKER, and takes mere USE for
> granted. I only want to use it, and only out in the woods or the desert
> or the tooley weeds -- all of which, it seems, OSM does map, despite its
> name. I want to get maps to scale that show things of interest to me
> only, or I hope only -- things like good lunch rocks, and nests, and
> particular trees, all or nearly all off any trail.
>
> Unlike the OSM regulars, I have no advanced skills in
> cartography, nor EE, nor CS. My skills and knowledge are in unrelated
> areas.
>
> All this boils down to two questions. If I install OSM under
> Fedora, will it accept, incorporate, and display off-road and off-trail
> data from an old GPS, either with OSM's own data, or with things like USGS
> topo maps? And if it will, can an ordinary mortal learn to use it?
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Fedora's OwnCloud and NextCloud Broke - What I did

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When I upgraded to F28, OwnCloud stopped working. Another reported the same
problem with NextCloud. The problem has been reported in bugzilla [1] as
Cannot login after upgrading from F27 to F28. Patrick Reeb provided a fix
with a fix-owncloud [2] script which downgrades php-sabre to F25.

Because both of the Fedora packages of OwnCloud and NextCloud are dated I
decided to use the NextCloud zip package of their current version 13.

Basically what I did was to install Fedora's NextCloud package to get the
basic configuration files and then removed the package so all what was left
was configuration files with a .rpmsave extension. Using the
nextcloud-13.0.4.zip package [3] I moved the files to my nextcloud
directory from the Fedora's package.

After a few tweaks to /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf files, the login prompt
appeared on my localhost/nextcloud.  I was unable to configure my
postgresql database from the web browser, so I used the command line tool
[4] (occ) to finish the install.

I did try the snap install of the nextcloud-server, but couldn't get it to
work. However, the snap nextcloud-client works like a charm.

[1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1562949
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=1431595
[3] https://nextcloud.com/install/#instructions-server
[4] https://nextcloud.com/install/#instructions-server

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Re: F27 to F28 - Postgresql upgrade fails

[Clifford Snow]

Samuel,
I did not receive any error messages during or after the upgrade. My first
clue was a cron entry that failed with a message that the postgresql db
wasn't running.

Like you, I thought the problem was fixed. (I did add to the bugzilla
report you referenced in 2017) From searching on the problem, it appears
that it is still happening. That's where I found what appeared to be a
solution, which didn't work for me.

Because I have currently daily backups, I went ahead and restored my
database manually.

The good news is that Postgresql 10.4 has better support for partitioning.
I'm now in the process of learning how to partition my almost 60M record
table. I've been putting it off until Fedora included postgresql 10.

Clifford

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:38 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 06/14/2018 09:43 AM, Clifford Snow wrote:
> > I just upgraded from Fedora 27 to 28. Everything working except the
> > upgrade from Postgresql 9.6 to 10
> >
> > Searching for help led me to manually add postgis-2.3.so
> > <http://postgis-2.3.so> and rtpostgis-2.3.so <http://rtpostgis-2.3.so>
> > to /usr/lib64/pgsql/ and /usr/lib64/pgsql/postgresql-9.6/lib/
>
> Was there an error message that led you to that?  The postgis upgrade
> problem is supposed to be fixed:
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1055293
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> Giving the original error message would be helpful.
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F27 to F28 - Postgresql upgrade fails

[Clifford Snow]

I just upgraded from Fedora 27 to 28. Everything working except the upgrade
from Postgresql 9.6 to 10

Searching for help led me to manually add postgis-2.3.so and
rtpostgis-2.3.so to /usr/lib64/pgsql/ and
/usr/lib64/pgsql/postgresql-9.6/lib/

Then when postgresql-setup --upgrade is run a fatal error is reported for
missing libraries.
the file loadable_libraries.txt contains

could not load library "$libdir/postgis-2.3": ERROR:  could not load
library "/usr/lib64/pgsql/postgis-2.3.so": /usr/lib64/pgsql/postgis-2.3.so:
undefined symbol: Float8GetDatum
could not load library "$libdir/rtpostgis-2.3": ERROR:  could not load
library "/usr/lib64/pgsql/rtpostgis-2.3.so": /usr/lib64/pgsql/
rtpostgis-2.3.so: undefined symbol: DatumGetFloat8
could not load library "$libdir/postgis_topology-2.3": ERROR:  could not
load library "/usr/lib64/pgsql/postgis_topology-2.3.so": /usr/lib64/pgsql/
postgis_topology-2.3.so: undefined sy
mbol: DatumGetFloat8
could not load library "$libdir/address_standardizer-2.3": ERROR:  could
not access file "$libdir/address_standardizer-2.3": No such file or
directory


Any suggestions to solve this without having to manually restore from my
dump?

Thanks in advance,
Clifford

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Re: F27 to 28 Upgrade of Postgresql

[Clifford Snow]

On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 10:42 PM, Samuel Sieb <sam...@sieb.net> wrote:

> On 05/09/2018 07:00 PM, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
>> I'm excited to see Postgresql 10.3 included with F28. Has anyone upgraded
>> to 28 with an older version of Postgresql? Did the Postgresql do the
>> upgrade or did you do a dump and restore of your databases?
>>
>
> There is a postgresql-upgrade package that you need to install.  When you
> try to start postgresql, it will tell you the command you need to run to
> upgrade it if necessary.
>

I'm running 9.6.8. Does the F28 upgrade automatically run
postgresql-upgrade or does the user run it after the upgrade to F28 is
complete?

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F27 to 28 Upgrade of Postgresql

[Clifford Snow]

I'm excited to see Postgresql 10.3 included with F28. Has anyone upgraded
to 28 with an older version of Postgresql? Did the Postgresql do the
upgrade or did you do a dump and restore of your databases?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: tail for a list of files

[Clifford Snow]

Correction - I shouldn't have copy and pasted. drop the {} \; from the
script

find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -print0 | xargs -0  tail -n5

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 10:44 AM, Clifford Snow <cliff...@snowandsnow.us>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:40 AM, bruce <badoug...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Thanks.. works .. but I forgot one thing...
>>
>> Is there a way to list the "file" prior to the tail or would that
>> require a bash/shell script.. I could have sworn that I've seen how to
>> accomplish this a while ago...  arggh!
>>
>> For that I think you need to use xarg as:
>
> find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -print0 | xargs -0  tail -n5 {} \;
>
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Re: tail for a list of files

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On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:40 AM, bruce  wrote:

>
> Thanks.. works .. but I forgot one thing...
>
> Is there a way to list the "file" prior to the tail or would that
> require a bash/shell script.. I could have sworn that I've seen how to
> accomplish this a while ago...  arggh!
>
> For that I think you need to use xarg as:

find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -print0 | xargs -0  tail -n5 {} \;


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Re: tail for a list of files

[Clifford Snow]

find /foo -name "*dog.dat" -exec tail -5 {} \;

should work. You could also add various find options like -type f to make
sure its a regular file and -mtime n to get recently modified files.

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 8:15 AM, bruce  wrote:

> Hey..
>
> Trying to figure out how to do a single line cmd (it should be
> possible right??) to do a tail -5 for a list of files???
>
> I thought I could combine find with exec/xargs and tail to generate
> the list of files/tail data.. But couldn't figure out the syntax..
>
> thoughts??
>
> find /foo -name "*dog.dat ... tail -5<< obviously not correct. but
> what would work?
>
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Re: sed/regex question.. missing something simple...

[Clifford Snow]

Not the most elegant:

 sed -e 's/^.*bookVariable\[.\([a-z][a-z]*\).*$/\1/'




On Sat, May 27, 2017 at 3:27 PM, bruce  wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I've got a file.. with a bunch of lines looking like:
>
>   $bookVariable['asu']['Fall-2016']='link';
>   $bookVariable['lehmancuny']['Fall-2016']='1';
>   $bookVariable['uvu']['Fall-2016']='1';
>   $bookVariable['wmich']['Summer II 2017']='1';
>   $bookVariable['wmich']['Summer I 2017']='1';
>   $bookVariable['dmacc']['Summer-2017']='1';
>   $bookVariable['sdmesa']['Summer-2017']='link';
>
> I''m looking to get the "text" inside the 1st group of brackets []
>
>
> The following sed only gets the 1st 3 lines.. and it doesn't completely
> work.
>
> sed -n "s/^.*bookVariable\['\(\S*\)'].*$/\1/p"  foo.txt
>
> asu']['Fall-2016
> lehmancuny']['Fall-2016
> uvu']['Fall-2016
>
>
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Re: sed question!

[Clifford Snow]

I'm a awk user.
cat sed.dat | awk -F"," '{print $1}'

or

awk -F"," '{print $1}' sed.dat

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 5:06 PM, bruce  wrote:

> Hey guys.
>
> Thanks for the delete replies..
>
> Got a quick sed question now..
>
> test file::
> head -2  sed.dat
> 228d98f0_f16a_11e6_9544_1ad613f05f7b,1486934882
> 22b93712_f16a_11e6_a6ad_1ad613f05f7b,1486934883
>
> want to simply truncate/search/replace the end of each line starting
> with the ","
> to get
>
> 228d98f0_f16a_11e6_9544_1ad613f05f7b
> 22b93712_f16a_11e6_a6ad_1ad613f05f7b
>
> the following isn't working
>  sed -i 's/\,+\$//'  sed.dat
>
>  sed -i 's/\,+$//'  sed.dat
>
> I'm sure it's simple/trivial...
>
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Re: bash/regex question..

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On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:37 PM, bruce  wrote:

> 's/.*storeId=\(.*\).&/\1/'


simple solution

sed -e 's/.*storeId=\(.*\).&/\1/' -e 's/\&.*//'


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xfdesktop-settings to change Background Image

[Clifford Snow]

Does anyone have the same problem changing imagery when using the
sfdesktop-settings app? It works fine except for trying to select the
astronomy images, then it hangs. It looks like the image size may be wrong.
The astronomy images are also jpg images vs. png for others.

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Re: rpmfusion for F24

[Clifford Snow]

Do you use the akmods or the kmods? I'm using kmods which are precompiled
as I understand.


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> On 06/28/16 07:28, Clifford Snow wrote:
>
> > I use the non free rpmfusion for Nvidia drivers. (The nouveau doesn't
> work for my card,
> > no or insufficient thermal controls.) Where is the best place to ask for
> drivers
> > compiled for the latest kernel, 4.5.7-300?
>
> rpmfusion is up and running with all nvidia packages for F24.  I just
> updated 2 systems
> without incident.
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rpmfusion for F24

[Clifford Snow]

I use the non free rpmfusion for Nvidia drivers. (The nouveau doesn't work
for my card, no or insufficient thermal controls.) Where is the best place
to ask for drivers compiled for the latest kernel, 4.5.7-300?

Thanks,
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