Re: Replacing email list for users with a web forum software called Discourse, what's your opinion?

[Federico Bruni]

> I'm wondering how the people who regularly use fedora-users mailing
> list feel about that.  Which would you prefer?  Unfortunately, it's an
> either / or proposal, because there is no interface in Discourse for
> emails from an email list to be put in their forums, though they do
> have email notification for new web messages.  Would you willingly or
> reluctantly migrate to the new platform?

Given the replies so far, my opinion is that this list should not switch to 
Discourse.

As pointed out by others, another active and modern forum exists already:
https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/questions/

Personally, as I don't have any time to filter emails from fedora-users and 
fedora-devel, I'll use HyperKitty forum to post to this list and skim through 
topics when I have some spare time for it.
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Re: PHP-FPM, PHP code in browser

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno lun 8 ott 2018 alle 5:04, Benjamin Smith 
 ha scritto:


[...]

I have apache/php-fpm running on an ubuntu vm.  File layouts are
different from fedora but enough is similar that this may help.

Again, this is ubuntu...

/etc/php/7.2/fpm/php.ini

engine = On

/etc/php/7.2/pool.d/www.conf

listen = /run/php/php7.2-fpm.sock

/etc/apache2/apache2.conf

SetHandler 
"proxy:unix:/var/run/php/php7.2-fpm.sock|fcgi://localhost/"


These three things are pretty straight forward.

Enable the php-fpm engine,
Specify where the php-fpm socket is to be created,
Tell apache where to find the socket and how to access it

On fedora these files may reside elsewhere.  Use "locate" and "grep".



On Fedora it's named differently. I use the following socket (with 
Caddy server):


/run/php-fpm/www.sock



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Re: directories at the top ??

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mer 29 ago 2018 alle 7:12, ToddAndMargo 
 ha scritto:

Hi All,

Fedora 28, x64
Xfce 4.12

I have noticed lately when opening and saving files, that
my folders (directories) are mixed in with my files in
alphabetical order.  This annoys the snot out of me.  Is
there a way to tell them to put the folders at the top
like it use to do?



In Nautilus there's an option in the Preferences.
Which file manager are you using in XFCE?


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Re: Split tunnelling

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mar 21 ago 2018 alle 11:46, Patrick O'Callaghan 
 ha scritto:

On Tue, 2018-08-21 at 09:10 +0200, Federico Bruni wrote:


 Il giorno lun 20 ago 2018 alle 14:03, Patrick O'Callaghan
  ha scritto:
 > Has anyone got this to work in Fedora? To be clear, split 
tunnelling

 > is
 > when network traffic to some destinations (or for some apps) is
 > tunnelled over a VPN, while the rest of the traffic goes through
 > normal
 > channels. I've tried messing with network namespaces, which would 
seem

 > to be the way to go, but not managed to get everything lined up so
 > far.
 > All the howto's I've seen are for various flavours of Ubuntu.
 >
 > I guess I'm asking if anyone has already done the work and feels 
like

 > sharing it.
 >

 If you use NetworkManager, you can check the option "Use this
 connection only for resources on its network", in the IPv4 tab of 
the

 VPN settings.


I do use NM, but I'm not seeing that option, at least under KDE. I'll
look using Gnome just to be sure but it seems unlikely that they would
be different.



Strange... this option has been present for a long time.
Did you install NetworkManager-openvpn package?
Are you using Fedora 28?


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Re: Split tunnelling

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno lun 20 ago 2018 alle 14:03, Patrick O'Callaghan 
 ha scritto:
Has anyone got this to work in Fedora? To be clear, split tunnelling 
is

when network traffic to some destinations (or for some apps) is
tunnelled over a VPN, while the rest of the traffic goes through 
normal

channels. I've tried messing with network namespaces, which would seem
to be the way to go, but not managed to get everything lined up so 
far.

All the howto's I've seen are for various flavours of Ubuntu.

I guess I'm asking if anyone has already done the work and feels like
sharing it.



If you use NetworkManager, you can check the option "Use this 
connection only for resources on its network", in the IPv4 tab of the 
VPN settings.




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Re: Touchpad right/middle click?

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mer 25 lug 2018 alle 6:44, Federico Bruni 
 ha scritto:


I can't make the 3-finger tap work on my laptop.
When I play with it in GNOME touchpad test settings, I see always 
first a very quick "secondary clic", followed immediately by "central 
clic".

In Nautilus and Firefox, it's always interpreted as a 2-finger tap.

Perhaps it's a Wayland bug. I should check if it works in Xorg.



I forgot that I was using Xorg.
I switched to Wayland and everything works perfect: one-finger tap for 
the primary button, two-finger tap for the secondary button and 
three-finger tap for the middle clic.



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Re: Touchpad right/middle click?

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mar 24 lug 2018 alle 21:55, Christopher 
 ha scritto:

On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 8:26 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:


If you go into the Gnome mouse configuration, do you have 
tap-to-click
turned on for the touchpad?  For right-click, are you trying to 
click on
a certain spot or are you using two fingers?  The multi-finger right 
and
middle click work for me on the laptops I use.  If you have it 
turned on
and it still doesn't work, then file a bug on libinput and see what 
they

suggest.


The 2-finger tap for right-click seems to work if I turn that on, and 
for fun I checked 3-finger tap also... which apparently performs 
middle click.




I can't make the 3-finger tap work on my laptop.
When I play with it in GNOME touchpad test settings, I see always first 
a very quick "secondary clic", followed immediately by "central clic".

In Nautilus and Firefox, it's always interpreted as a 2-finger tap.

Perhaps it's a Wayland bug. I should check if it works in Xorg.


> Also, on a whim, I ended up changing the "click-method" from the 
default of "fingers" to "areas" (the opposite of many blog posts I read 
said to do), which works with the regular button press using:


gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.peripherals.touchpad click-method 
'areas'


Apparently, there's no UI for that setting... you just have to know 
to set it. *shrug*





There is actually, but in GNOME Tweak Tool.


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Re: Touchpad right/middle click?

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno mar 24 lug 2018 alle 12:26, Christopher 
 ha scritto:
I noticed today that F28 Gnome 3 doesn't seem to support right or 
middle click on my multi-touch area touchpad (standard Dell touchpad) 
on Wayland or Xorg.


I've read that this is related to libinput, but for all the 
discussions I've found on various forums, I've yet to find a 
solution. Usually I use a mouse, so I haven't noticed before, but 
this is hugely inconvenient not to have right or middle click. When 
did this break in Fedora? I know it used to work fine.


Had anybody found a reliable solution to restore full touchpad 
functionality?


I use regularly the touchpad right-click on my Dell XPS 13. (I don't 
think middle click is available on my touchpad)


Fedora 28 Gnome 3 on Wayland.


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Re: GNOME shell / login crash

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno gio 14 giu 2018 alle 8:34, andrea via users 
 ha scritto:

On 14/06/18 05:27, Federico Bruni wrote:




I haven't followed all the thread...
Have you tried GNOME Classic?

I guess I'm having the same problem on Fedora 28, but I didn't have 
the time to debug it yet so I switched to GNOME Classic, which 
works fine.




When you say "same problem" and "works fine": is your problem 100% 
reproducible?


Difficult to tell if it works or not as the problem seems to appear 
only after hours from the boot.


Ok, then it's different.


And I did read that GNOME improved garbage collection in javascript...

If you have 100% login crash, it is probably something else.

Which one are you?



The first time I upgraded to Fedora 28, about 10 days ago, it crashed 
at login only at first try, not the second try.
Recently it crashed 100% of times, so I changed to GNOME Classic, which 
works.




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Re: GNOME shell / login crash

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno ven 8 giu 2018 alle 21:49, andrea via users 
 ha scritto:

On 03/06/18 16:40, andrea via users wrote:

On 03/06/18 16:16, andrea via users wrote:

On 31/05/18 19:27, Samuel Sieb wrote:
Have you checked the journal to see if there's a message or stack 
trace about what happened?


Here is it

username connecting is "jackie"

this is the only thing I can see between the login and logout

Jun 03 16:10:27 bomba gnome-session[9922]: 
gnome-session-binary[9922]: WARNING: Could not parse desktop file 
powerdevil.desktop or it references a not found TryExec binary
Jun 03 16:10:27 bomba gnome-session-binary[9922]: WARNING: Could 
not parse desktop file powerdevil.desktop or it references a not 
found TryExec binary




Have performed a full reinstall of Fedora 28.
Deleted (for some users) every single . file.
After a few day it stated again.

Have now reluctantly switched to KDE + SDDM.



I haven't followed all the thread...
Have you tried GNOME Classic?

I guess I'm having the same problem on Fedora 28, but I didn't have the 
time to debug it yet so I switched to GNOME Classic, which works fine.



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Re: Reports of gcc8 vector-validation problems in F28

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno lun 7 mag 2018 alle 13:28, John Pilkington 
 ha scritto:

On 07/05/18 12:14, Jakub Jelinek wrote:

On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 10:40:39AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote:

On 07/05/18 10:13, Jakub Jelinek wrote:

On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 09:51:52AM +0100, John Pilkington wrote:
The MythTV lists have had several reports of problems apparently 
arising
from new (and improved) vector-validation in gcc8.  Is there a 
temporary

workaround?


If you don't provide details (links to the reports, etc.), then it 
is

impossible to tell anything.

Jakub


As I said, the bug-tracker is currently out of action.  Here's the 
original

report:

http://lists.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/2018-May/117389.html


If mythtv invoked UB, then you really just want to fix the UB, not 
look for

workarounds.

Jakub


Agreed.  But it seems unlikely that MythTV will be the only programme 
affected, and people who rely on packaged builds won't immediately 
have that option.  I'm still on F26...and SL7




In fact, lilypond is another package affected:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1568274
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-05/msg00081.html


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Re: troubles with lyluatex package in Fedora

[Federico Bruni]

I installed native TeX Live 2017 and now everything works fine.

As it works also in Debian 9 with TeX Live 2016, it looks like a 
problem in some texlive Fedora package. I saw a tiny difference in the 
version of some packages between Debian and Fedora, for example 
luaotfload module. See my comment here:

https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex/issues/180#issuecomment-381689254


Il giorno mar 3 apr 2018 alle 18:34, Federico Bruni 
<f...@inventati.org> ha scritto:

Hi

I hope there's some savvy TeX user here who can help me to debug this 
problem:

https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex/issues/180
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-03/msg00707.html

I tried lyluatex using TexLive 2016 in a Debian container and it 
works fine.
But for some reason it doesn't work on Fedora 27, which has also 
TexLive 2016. This was confirmed by another Fedora user (see above 
link to lilypond-user mailing list).


I also tried upgrading TexLive to 2017¹ (in a container I use for 
testing), but then found another problem:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-03/msg00741.html

It looks like I need a more recent version of TexLive 2017, 
containing these critical luatex fixes committed in June:

http://git.preining.info/texlive/log/?h=branch2017

I'm Cc-ing spot, author of below copr repository.
I was about to try to update his .spec file, but I see that the 
latest release of TexLive 2017 is dated 24th of May, while it seems I 
need a later version.
Before investigating more, I'd like to know if someone is already 
working on it.


Thanks in advance!
Federico

¹ https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/spot/texlive/

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troubles with lyluatex package in Fedora

[Federico Bruni]

Hi

I hope there's some savvy TeX user here who can help me to debug this 
problem:

https://github.com/jperon/lyluatex/issues/180
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-03/msg00707.html

I tried lyluatex using TexLive 2016 in a Debian container and it works 
fine.
But for some reason it doesn't work on Fedora 27, which has also 
TexLive 2016. This was confirmed by another Fedora user (see above link 
to lilypond-user mailing list).


I also tried upgrading TexLive to 2017¹ (in a container I use for 
testing), but then found another problem:

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2018-03/msg00741.html

It looks like I need a more recent version of TexLive 2017, containing 
these critical luatex fixes committed in June:

http://git.preining.info/texlive/log/?h=branch2017

I'm Cc-ing spot, author of below copr repository.
I was about to try to update his .spec file, but I see that the latest 
release of TexLive 2017 is dated 24th of May, while it seems I need a 
later version.
Before investigating more, I'd like to know if someone is already 
working on it.


Thanks in advance!
Federico

¹ https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs/spot/texlive/
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Re: cannot connect to a bluetooth speaker

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno gio 22 mar 2018 alle 22:32, Federico Bruni 
<f...@inventati.org> ha scritto:



Il giorno gio 22 mar 2018 alle 9:26, Federico Bruni 
<f...@inventati.org> ha scritto:



Il giorno gio 22 mar 2018 alle 8:21, Federico Bruni 
<f...@inventati.org> ha scritto:

Let me add that I've tried also bluetoothctl.
I can pair it but after a few seconds it's disconnected:

[bluetooth]# trust AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Changing AC:89:95:DA:52:5E trust succeeded
[bluetooth]# pair AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Attempting to pair with AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
[CHG] Device AC:89:95:DA:52:5E Connected: yes

Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationCanceled
[CHG] Device AC:89:95:DA:52:5E Connected: no




I've now searched this error and found a possible solution here:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180165

It says that installing bluez-hid2hci would solve the problem.
It was not installed on my system, so I'll give it a try when I'm 
back home.




I'm doing some progress. Now the bluetooth connection is kept and the 
speaker appears in the Sound settings (see attached screenshot).


But the speaker is mute. It might be some audio library missing or 
what?
I tried `dnf search a2dp` and found only package sbc, which is 
already installed.

Some problem with PulseAudio?




I disabled pulseaudio respawning and added verbosity (pulseaudio 
-vv)

and I got this interesting information:

I: [pulseaudio] module-suspend-on-idle.c: Sink 
alsa_output.pci-_00_1b.0.analog-stereo idle for too long, 
suspending ...


which brought me to the solution suggested here:
https://askubuntu.com/questions/218444/sound-output-starts-delayed

i.e. commenting load-module module-suspend-on-idle in 
/etc/pulse/default.pa


Now I can play music on that speaker. Success :-)

Sorry for this "solo thread", but I hope it can be helpful for others.

Best
Federico




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Re: cannot connect to a bluetooth speaker

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno gio 22 mar 2018 alle 8:21, Federico Bruni 
<f...@inventati.org> ha scritto:

Let me add that I've tried also bluetoothctl.
I can pair it but after a few seconds it's disconnected:

[bluetooth]# trust AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Changing AC:89:95:DA:52:5E trust succeeded
[bluetooth]# pair AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Attempting to pair with AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
[CHG] Device AC:89:95:DA:52:5E Connected: yes

Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationCanceled
[CHG] Device AC:89:95:DA:52:5E Connected: no




I've now searched this error and found a possible solution here:
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=180165

It says that installing bluez-hid2hci would solve the problem.
It was not installed on my system, so I'll give it a try when I'm back 
home.



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Re: cannot connect to a bluetooth speaker

[Federico Bruni]

Let me add that I've tried also bluetoothctl.
I can pair it but after a few seconds it's disconnected:

[bluetooth]# trust AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Changing AC:89:95:DA:52:5E trust succeeded
[bluetooth]# pair AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Attempting to pair with AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
[CHG] Device AC:89:95:DA:52:5E Connected: yes

Failed to pair: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationCanceled
[CHG] Device AC:89:95:DA:52:5E Connected: no



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cannot connect to a bluetooth speaker

[Federico Bruni]

Hi all

I've tried posting this message via the web interface yesterday, but I 
don't see it in the archives. So I'm sending it again by regular email.


I have two speakers:

$ hcitool scan
Scanning ...
AC:89:95:DA:52:5E   Beoplay M5_27502524
00:12:6F:3F:BD:D5   Mu-so Qb BT 7047

I can connect via bluetooth to both using my Android phone.
I can connect via bluetooth only to Mu-so using Fedora 27.

If I try the bluetooth connection using GNOME setting, I don't get much 
information. I just see that it tries the connection and after a while 
it fails.

On a terminal I get a timeout:

$ bt-device -c AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Connecting to: AC:89:95:DA:52:5E
Error: Timeout was reached

Finally, journalctl seems to suggest that may be some kernel problem?!?

Mar 22 07:36:45 fedora kernel: Bluetooth: hci0: last event is not cmd 
complete (0x0f)


I found the same error message in this bug report, which is for Fedora 
28 though:

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1514836#c15

Thanks in advance for any suggestion
Federico


PS The bluetooth service is running fine:

$ systemctl status bluetooth
* bluetooth.service - Bluetooth service
  Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib/systemd/system/bluetooth.service; enabled; 
vendor preset: enabled)

  Active: active (running) since Thu 2018-03-22 07:25:05 CET; 26min ago
Docs: man:bluetoothd(8)
Main PID: 759 (bluetoothd)
  Status: "Running"
   Tasks: 1 (limit: 4915)
  CGroup: /system.slice/bluetooth.service
  `-759 /usr/libexec/bluetooth/bluetoothd

Mar 22 07:25:05 fedora systemd[1]: Starting Bluetooth service...
Mar 22 07:25:05 fedora bluetoothd[759]: Bluetooth daemon 5.48
Mar 22 07:25:05 fedora bluetoothd[759]: Starting SDP server
Mar 22 07:25:05 fedora systemd[1]: Started Bluetooth service.
Mar 22 07:25:05 fedora bluetoothd[759]: Bluetooth management interface 
1.14 initialized
Mar 22 07:25:19 fedora bluetoothd[759]: Endpoint registered: 
sender=:1.69 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource
Mar 22 07:25:19 fedora bluetoothd[759]: Endpoint registered: 
sender=:1.69 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink

Mar 22 07:42:45 fedora bluetoothd[759]: No cache for AC:89:95:DA:52:5E


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Re: Top-posting & list guidelines

[Federico Bruni]

Il giorno gio 22 mar 2018 alle 0:47, Richard England 
<"pdx.limey"@gmail.com> ha scritto:

On 03/21/2018 02:02 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote:

Same in Evolution. In fact even the Gmail web client used to do this
when properly configured, but Google seem to have broken it now.


Same in Thunberbird.



Same in Geary. (well, not in current master for me.. the project moved 
from Cmake to Meson recently and this is the most annoying regression, 
not fixed yet)


Gmail used to have an extensione which allowed "selective reply", but 
they dropped it:

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-reply-quoting-only-highlighted-text-in-gmail-1172095


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