Re: how to install skype on F20
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 09:12:40PM +0100, Raf Roger wrote: i followed the tutorial available on http://edmondscommerce.github.io/Fedora/getting-skype-working-on-fedora-20.html to install skype on F20. however, when i launch skype it crashes all the time... I have installed Skype using lpf-skype from rpmfusion repo. It appears to work fine: rpm -qa \*skype\* skype-4.2.0.11-8.fc20.i686 skype-data-4.2.0.11-8.fc20.noarch lpf-skype-4.2.0.11-11.fc20.i686 HTH, Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - Suspend not working
On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 11:09:19AM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: Lenovo x120e. So perhaps I do have a radeon video, how do I check? Typically: lspci | grep VGA Some external sources: «The ThinkPad X120e's Radeon HD 6310 integrated graphics...» http://www.laptopmag.com/review/laptops/lenovo-thinkpad-x120e.aspx http://shop.amd.com/us/All/Detail/Notebook/06112EU http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=DS013718 http://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X120e-Laptop-Review.56445.0.html BTW, here are some Linux optimizations you may want to try: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lenovo_ThinkPad_X120e Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - Suspend not working
On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 09:58:02PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: On 01/18/2014 08:48 PM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: To suspend try systemctl suspend Is this different than sudo pm-suspend? Certainly so, although it may not cure your problem. Doesn't systemctl have to be run as root? Not on my F20. Maybe this can help: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/ Hmmm. What proprietary driver? I do not think I have the radeon video. OK. But to hope to make some progress you may need to find out (and post) more info about your HW than just Lenovo laptop. journalctl|grep suspend gets these for today: Jan 18 19:36:10 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1189]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:46:07 lx120e.htt-consult.com gnome-session[1170]: INFO : GSettings missing key org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.power (key lid-close-suspend-with-external-monitor) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: Suspending console(s) (use no_console_suspend to debug) Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: suspend of devices complete after 1189.579 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: late suspend of devices complete after 0.302 msecs Jan 18 19:47:30 lx120e.htt-consult.com kernel: PM: noirq suspend of devices complete after 44.326 msecs The first two were attemptings to suspend by closing the notebook. I had detacted the external monitor prior, but I had not tried the fn+f7 to cycle off the external monitor. Never had to do that with f17. The last 4 were from the pm-suspend. HTH, Mihai On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64. Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works. Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome. There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo. Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting. I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once). thank you for any help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f20 - Suspend not working
To suspend try systemctl suspend Maybe this can help: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/question/37731/suspend-lenovo-flex/ HTH, Mihai On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 08:02:27PM -0500, Robert Moskowitz wrote: f20 x86-64 on my Lenovo with all the problems I had installing x86_64. Well I **think** suspend was working, and now it barely works. Closing the notebook, does nothing except hose Gnome, which restarts on opening the notebook, and all my apps go into the current workspace (I have tweaked to have 5 static workspaces). This use to put the notebook into suspend and would come out with no problems for Gnome. There is no suspend function available from the top bar. There is an extension to add hibernate, but it does not seem to provide suspend. And anyway, hibernate is broken on this Lenovo. Suspend via sudo pm-suspend works, but seems to still have a problem with gnome restarting. I am leaving for LA tomorrow for a week an IEEE 802 wireless interim, and in and out of suspend is MANDATORY. Typically I would do it a dozen times per day. I don't like walking around with my notebook open in my hand from session to session (though had to do it once). thank you for any help. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Anyone upgraded from F19 to F20 with yum?
On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 04:41:44PM -0600, Ian Pilcher wrote: Any gotchas that I should be aware of? Thanks! I was thinking to go with you, but then I decided that the recommended way: sudo fedup --network 20 may be smoother, and so it was. Do you have any reason to use yum instead of fedup? HTH, Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Acroread vs. ctrl/z
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 03:07:49PM -0800, Jonathan Ryshpan wrote: When Adobe acroread is run from a terminal, ctrl/z doesn't suspend it. ^Z appears on the terminal, which hangs until acroread terminates itself or ctrl/c is pressed on the terminal. However $ acroread starts acroread in the background and ctrl/z suspends all other programs, as expected. System is Fedora-19 with all updates installed. Has anyone else seen this? What's going on? Not here (same F19 updated): mihai@mtl acroread ^Z [1]+ Stopped acroread mihai@mtl I use xterm and AdobeReader_enu-9.5.5-1.i486 HTH, Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: OT: C programs and architectures (use on Fedora)
On Sat, Nov 02, 2013 at 05:55:37PM -0500, Ranjan Maitra wrote: Hi, I have obtained a set of open-source programs from http://petertoft.dk/PhD/Recon2D.tar.gz uncompressed, etc, and it all goes through fine. When I compile, the programs work fine on my old 32-bit machine (results make sense), however there is a segmentation fault on my 64-bit laptop. I compile using: gcc -c -I../include -O3 -finline-functions -Winline -Wall -falign-loops=2 -falign-jumps=2 -falign-functions=2 -Wstrict-prototypes . (Note that I had to fix the makefiles in there.) Btw, I don't know if this could have anything to do with it, but this set of programs were written in 1996 (when 64-bit probably did not even exist at all). Also, all the code uses single-precision (floats) rather than my preferred doubles. (Which makes me ask: is it possible to go into all the many files and convert all the floats into doubles using some command? ) You can add -m32 to gcc arguments. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing of colour pages from adobe reader comes out greyscale
On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 04:57:21PM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: Subject says all. Printing the same pages with gimp comes out correctly. Printing is ordinary colour print not photo. Adobe reader: Version 9.5.5 Fedora: Version 19 fully updated as of 25/9-2013 CUPS: 1.6.3-4.fc19.x86_64 Printer: HP Photosmart 8450 Is this a known issue and is there a fix for it? Have you checked printer settings in Adobe reader? AFAIK each program can use different settings. HTH, Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Printing of colour pages from adobe reader comes out greyscale
On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 11:37:26AM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: On 27/09/13 11:17, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 04:57:21PM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: Subject says all. Printing the same pages with gimp comes out correctly. Printing is ordinary colour print not photo. Adobe reader: Version 9.5.5 Fedora: Version 19 fully updated as of 25/9-2013 CUPS: 1.6.3-4.fc19.x86_64 Printer: HP Photosmart 8450 Is this a known issue and is there a fix for it? Have you checked printer settings in Adobe reader? AFAIK each program can use different settings. I don't see any printer settings that I can change. I only see print properties in the print dialogue as: lpr -P Colour -o PageSize=A4 -o PageRegion=A4 -o Duplex=None -o InputSlot=Auto -o ColorModel=RGB -o MediaType=Automatic -o OutputMode=Normal -o OptionDuplex=False And that I can't change, AFAIK. I mean steps 4 and 5 here: http://acps.aub.edu.lb/mod/book/view.php?id=493chapterid=834 However, if I select Custom as printer name I can set the command to print with (lp ...), which is editable. But I never use that, I use one of the printers I have defined and steps 45 above and change their settings as I see fit. Do you have any printers defined? I.e., you see any in the list on right of Name: in the box Printer in print dialog -- step 3 here: http://smallbusiness.chron.com/adjust-adobe-reader-printer-settings-59054.html Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: USB memory stick - where?
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 02:38:05PM +0200, ppq wrote: Am 20.09.2013 14:35, schrieb Timothy Murphy: If I install a memory stick in a Fedora-19 laptop, is there a simple command that will tell me where it is on the filesystem, eg /dev/sdb1 ? I know I can find this indirectly, but is there eg a switch to lsusb that will tell me? lsblk is quite useful Great, thanks! I was wondering if there was no better way than dmesg | tail... :-) Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: USB memory stick - where?
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 01:48:18PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 02:57:39PM +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 02:38:05PM +0200, ppq wrote: Am 20.09.2013 14:35, schrieb Timothy Murphy: If I install a memory stick in a Fedora-19 laptop, is there a simple command that will tell me where it is on the filesystem, eg /dev/sdb1 ? I know I can find this indirectly, but is there eg a switch to lsusb that will tell me? lsblk is quite useful Great, thanks! I was wondering if there was no better way than dmesg | tail... :-) I usually use cat /etc/mtab. /etc/mtab will list it only if mounted. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: WHY !!! ?
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 06:27:08PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 15.09.2013 18:03, schrieb Jim: On 09/14/2013 08:11 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: Do you explicitly unmount your flash drives, before yanking them out. I have to admit that is the one thing I don't do so answering with your subject in normal letters: why? Indeed. Linux uses (extensive) buffering. Your write command may return but the data be still in memory instead of written on the drive. If you disconnect it right away, besides a corrupted file system you may find that your files are incomplete or missing. So, with FAT FS issue a sync and wait for it to return or, much better, unmount (which forces a flush of the associated write buffers). Regarding the mount read-only, the kernel may decide to do so if the FS has errors. It should resume mounting it RW once the errors are fixed. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MATE desktop
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 03:52:02AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:05:27AM +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:27:14PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 06:59:07AM -0700, Ben Greear wrote: One thing I noticed, 'gdm' appears to use gnome-shell, so if you have a system w/out accelerated graphics, your CPU will still be eaten by gnome-shell even if you log into MATE. I don't think that is correct, I have gdm installed, and no gnome-shell. These are the only dependencies for gdm: $ rpm -e --test gdm error: Failed dependencies: gdm is needed by (installed) xfce4-xfswitch-plugin-0.0.1-8.fc18.x86_64 gdm = 1:2.22.0 is needed by (installed) pulseaudio-gdm-hooks-2.1-6.fc18.x86_64 gdm requires gnome-shell, not gnome-shell requires gdm: rpm -q --requires gdm | grep gnome gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-keyring-pam gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon = 2.21.92 gnome-shell I'm sorry, but not here: $ rpm -q --requires gdm | grep gnome gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-keyring-pam gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon = 2.21.92 polkit-gnome I do not have gnome-shell installed: $ rpm -q gnome-shell package gnome-shell is not installed $ uname -r 3.10.9-100.fc18.x86_64 You appear to use F18, I (and OP?) am using F19: cat /etc/fedora-release Fedora release 19 (Schrödinger's Cat) Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MATE desktop
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 11:23:44AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 10:21:58AM +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 03:52:02AM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: $ rpm -e --test gdm error: Failed dependencies: gdm is needed by (installed) xfce4-xfswitch-plugin-0.0.1-8.fc18.x86_64 gdm = 1:2.22.0 is needed by (installed) pulseaudio-gdm-hooks-2.1-6.fc18.x86_64 [...chomp...chomp...chomp...] $ uname -r 3.10.9-100.fc18.x86_64 You appear to use F18, I (and OP?) am using F19: I know I'm on F18. Now we all know. :-) I think this might be a packaging bug in F19. The discussion was about the high CPU drain on slow GPUs due to gnome-shell, apparently triggered by gdm. This means that gnome-shell runs, not just is installed as dependency. :-) I use gdm + MATE and have gnome-shell installed as dependency. But it is not running, at least not after login. At the next reboot I'll check if it is active while the login screen is on, to contribute a test point to the CPU drain topic. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MATE desktop
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 02:29:52PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote:
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 12:23:38PM +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote:
The discussion was about the high CPU drain on slow GPUs due
to gnome-shell, apparently triggered by gdm. This means that
gnome-shell runs, not just is installed as dependency. :-)
I use gdm + MATE and have gnome-shell installed as dependency.
But it is not running, at least not after login.
At the next reboot I'll check if it is active while the login
screen is on, to contribute a test point to the CPU drain topic.
You snipped out the relevant part of my response.
http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/gdm.git/tree/gdm.spec#n348
This is what it says there:
- Require gnome-shell. We no longer use the fallback greeter.
(Since gdm 3.7.92).
If you look at the spec file, it includes a session file
(line 283):
%{_datadir}/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session
In my understanding, this means there is no hard dependency.
Of course the constant CPU load could be a gnome-shell bug,
but the gnome-shell dependency does not look necessary from
what I see.
It is very easy to test actually; just rebuild the stock
fedora gdm source rpm without that line (there is one more,
but that just includes an icon) and see if gdm still works
normally.
Anyone care to test?
Tests:
1. reboot normally.
Result: gnome-shell is started at the login screen:
ps axuww | grep -w gdm
root 631 0.0 0.0 296692 3160 ?Ssl 15:04 0:00
/usr/sbin/gdm
root 638 0.0 0.1 380308 5840 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gnome/DisplayManager/Displays/_0
root 947 0.4 0.3 149216 12156 tty1 Ss+ 15:04 0:00
/usr/bin/Xorg :0 -background none -verbose -auth
/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-SbLhPY/database -seat seat0 -nolisten tcp vt1
root 993 0.2 0.2 356968 8860 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-launch-environment]
gdm 1073 0.2 0.3 712024 12184 ?Ssl 15:04 0:00
/usr/bin/gnome-session --autostart /usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart
gdm 1076 0.0 0.0 16020 456 ?S15:04 0:00
/usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session /usr/bin/gnome-session --autostart
/usr/share/gdm/greeter/autostart
gdm 1077 0.0 0.0 24516 1048 ?Ss 15:04 0:00
/bin/dbus-daemon --fork --print-pid 5 --print-address 7 --session
gdm 1080 0.0 0.0 337740 3468 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/at-spi-bus-launcher
gdm 1084 0.0 0.0 24228 1520 ?S15:04 0:00
/bin/dbus-daemon --config-file=/etc/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork
--print-address 3
gdm 1087 0.0 0.0 127260 3352 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/at-spi2-registryd --use-gnome-session
gdm 1093 0.6 0.5 766944 19920 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/gnome-settings-daemon
gdm 1165 3.0 2.7 1283616 107216 ? Sl 15:04 0:01
gnome-shell --mode=gdm
gdm 1170 0.0 0.1 447948 5468 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
gdm 1200 0.0 0.0 178304 2552 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/dconf-service
gdm 1210 0.0 0.1 460288 4472 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/bin/ibus-daemon --replace --xim --panel disable
gdm 1212 0.0 0.0 310396 3504 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/ibus-dconf
gdm 1216 0.0 0.2 376736 8456 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/ibus-x11 --kill-daemon
gdm 1264 0.0 0.0 236460 3424 ?Sl 15:04 0:00
/usr/libexec/ibus-engine-simple
2. reboot without gdm-shell.session:
mv /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions/gdm-shell.session /tmp
reboot
Result: graphical screen informing that something went
wrong, try again.
3. restore gdm-shell.session and reboot without gnome-shell:
rpm -e --nodeps gnome-shell
reboot
Result: no login screen.
Test 1 explains the issue originally reported by Ben Greear,
that gnome-shell starts due to gdm and is not usable on HW
without accelerated graphics:
https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2013-August/440219.html
Test 2 and 3 show that gnome-{session,shell} are started at
login. The behaviour appears compiled in (not due to a run-time
test). The dependency does not appear to be a packaging error.
Mihai
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Re: MATE desktop
On Wed, Aug 28, 2013 at 06:20:39PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: I do not think you are following what I mean. I'll try to illustrate. First some comments on your tests: Tests: 1. reboot normally. Result: gnome-shell is started at the login screen: ps axuww | grep -w gdm Did you login to Gnome? If so, of course gnome-shell will be started. I tested on my F19 server with WindowMaker, there was no gnome-shell process after login. I do not use any parts of Gnome/MATE, so I do not know if MATE uses gnome-shell somehow. If it does, then sadly I cannot help anymore. Hope the above helps someone. Hi Suvayu, As I mentioned in a previous email, I use MATE and, as you, I have no gnome-shell after login. In that message I also said that I will test if gnome-shell is started *for* the login screen, which would be consistent with the original report. That was my test 1: before actual login and start of a session. Hi Ben, For low-end systems it can also be worth switching to XDM: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XDM_(display_manager) yum info xorg-x11-xdm Description : X.Org X11 xdm - X Display Manager I suspect that XDM is less likely to be unexpectedly tweaked by future desktop developments. :-) Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:20:07AM -0500, g wrote: On 08/27/2013 07:57 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I've been seeing this problem as well, but intermittently. After a failure and after a few retries, I get my mail again. Haven't been able to detect circumstances where it fails reliably. why would you want it to 'fail reliably'? :=) Can help debugging. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 02:34:29PM +0100, John Horne wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 15:03 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. NetworkManager is not being used. Regardless, other managers may have similar settings. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: cannot access incoming yahoo from evolution
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:04:12AM -0500, g wrote: On 08/27/2013 08:32 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 08:20:07AM -0500, g wrote: On 08/27/2013 07:57 AM, Matthew Saltzman wrote: I've been seeing this problem as well, but intermittently. After a failure and after a few retries, I get my mail again. Haven't been able to detect circumstances where it fails reliably. why would you want it to 'fail reliably'? :=) Can help debugging. really? i never thought of that. (bwg) This was obvious from your question. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 04:57:04PM +0100, John Horne wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu mtl...@gmail.com wrote: Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. I too would suggest that you double-check that the MAC address -- just last week I got the same symptoms from a system where the config files thought that the MAC should be one thing, and the actual MAC address was different. The wireless adapter hasn't changed, and the same config files (wpa_supplicant.conf, ifcfg-wlan0) are being used that worked with F17. As said, if I run 'ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0' then the interface comes up. That wouldn't happen if the MAC address was wrong. MAC is stored in system filed (/etc/...) and user files ($HOME/...). Check the latter. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19: Wireless not working - dhclient not running?
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 06:11:35PM +0100, John Horne wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 18:16 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 04:57:04PM +0100, John Horne wrote: On Tue, 2013-08-27 at 11:18 -0400, Jared K. Smith wrote: On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 9:03 AM, Mihai T. Lazarescu mtl...@gmail.com wrote: Check also if the MAC and name of the WiFi interface in the user configuration of NetworkManager matches that of the hardware. I too would suggest that you double-check that the MAC address -- just last week I got the same symptoms from a system where the config files thought that the MAC should be one thing, and the actual MAC address was different. The wireless adapter hasn't changed, and the same config files (wpa_supplicant.conf, ifcfg-wlan0) are being used that worked with F17. As said, if I run 'ifdown wlan0 ifup wlan0' then the interface comes up. That wouldn't happen if the MAC address was wrong. MAC is stored in system filed (/etc/...) and user files ($HOME/...). Check the latter. Why? Because the F19 fresh installation you made aligns the system files, not user's. Even if the MAC did not changed, F19 changed interface names: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/SystemdPredictableNetworkInterfaceNames Since you preserved the user configuration from F17, that is set for the old interface names. Thus, your network manager is not finding the new ones, unless you manually check for and fix the mismatches. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: MATE desktop
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 09:27:14PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 06:59:07AM -0700, Ben Greear wrote: One thing I noticed, 'gdm' appears to use gnome-shell, so if you have a system w/out accelerated graphics, your CPU will still be eaten by gnome-shell even if you log into MATE. I don't think that is correct, I have gdm installed, and no gnome-shell. These are the only dependencies for gdm: $ rpm -e --test gdm error: Failed dependencies: gdm is needed by (installed) xfce4-xfswitch-plugin-0.0.1-8.fc18.x86_64 gdm = 1:2.22.0 is needed by (installed) pulseaudio-gdm-hooks-2.1-6.fc18.x86_64 gdm requires gnome-shell, not gnome-shell requires gdm: rpm -q --requires gdm | grep gnome gnome-icon-theme-symbolic gnome-keyring-pam gnome-session gnome-settings-daemon = 2.21.92 gnome-shell Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Can't read DVD
On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 07:06:04AM +0200, Martin S wrote: On Saturday, August 24, 2013 03:17:10 PM Doug wrote: I'm sure you are aware that there are some things that run in Wiondows that cant be run in Linux. This seems to be an example. That's why most of us who use Linux *most* of the time, have Windows machines. Umm, yes. As I used Linux exclusively for years untill a long desktop break untill recently I well know there are things that don't run in Linux. Reading DVDs (10 out of 12 faililng) never crossed my mind to be one of them. Have you checked if (or what) region code is set on the DVD drive of the linux box: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD_region_code (or get around it)? Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Read Only file system
On Fri, Aug 23, 2013 at 05:23:30PM -0400, Jim wrote: Fedora 18 / kde My Flash Drive has somehow been change to Read Only and I cannot delete files from it. The drive is at /run/media/mickey/0A73-237A and the owner is user mickey:mickey in /mickey/0A73-237A the files on this drive are at; -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 967 Aug 23 16:15 yumex -rw-r--r--. 1 mickey mickey 5107 Aug 5 10:55 yum-update Everytime I try to rm yumex I get a ReadOnly file system How do I change this ?? This may be because of a file system with errors. If this is the case, unmount, check for and fix errors, then it should mount RW. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: F19 Kernels 3.10.5, 6, 7 won't boot
On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 12:34:59AM -0400, Robert McBroom wrote: Updated to Fedora 19 but none of the kernels will boot. The process begins and something about an error with connecting to DBUS flashes on the screen then the cycle starts over. I can still run with kernel-3.10.4-100.fc18.x86_64 although it complains about a file missing that udev would like to see. [ 14.730648] systemd-udevd[1081]: failed to execute '/usr/lib/udev/socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event' 'socket:@/org/freedesktop/hal/udev_event': No such file or directory Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4500 @ 2.20GHz Working boot BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.10.4-100.fc18.x86_64 root=UUID=f04657c0-2964-494f-8efa-f194b7ba370a ro rd.md=0 rd.lvm=0 rd.dm=0 vconsole.keymap=us rd.luks=0 LANG=en_US.UTF-8 quiet pci=nomsi noapic irqpoll vconsole.font=latarcyrheb-sun16 3 nouveau.modeset=0 rd.driver.blacklist=nouveau video=vesa:off Looking at the /var/log messages see Aug 18 00:31:57 robert-pc dbus[1066]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' Aug 18 00:31:57 robert-pc dbus[1066]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service': Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' for details. Aug 18 00:31:57 robert-pc NetworkManager[1044]: warn Dispatcher failed: (32) Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' for details. Aug 18 00:31:57 robert-pc dbus-daemon[1066]: dbus[1066]: [system] Activating via systemd: service name='org.freedesktop.nm_dispatcher' unit='dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' Aug 18 00:31:57 robert-pc dbus-daemon[1066]: dbus[1066]: [system] Activation via systemd failed for unit 'dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service': Unit dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service failed to load: No such file or directory. See system logs and 'systemctl status dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service' for details. # systemctl status dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service dbus-org.freedesktop.nm-dispatcher.service Loaded: error (Reason: No such file or directory) Active: inactive (dead) Any ideas as to what is happening? No idea, but I also see that: ** the icon of the power manager is missing; ** when is returning from sleep it goes back to sleep right away. Only the second time stays awake; ** when this happens, after the second wakeup the ath9k module issues continuously for a couple dozen of seconds or so: kernel: [121459.809116] ath: phy0: PLL4 meaurement not done 3.10.[56] had no apparent shortcoming, though. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD to SSD question.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 03:56:56PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 20.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: Thanks for the pointer. I add to the mix my test results for F19 with kernel 3.10.7 on an ASUS UX31E with its factory 256GB SSD-only mass storage. CFQ scheduler run1: [] All these numbers are pointless, because when I see your results I'm quite shure you did run the test without generating loads of disk I/O in parallel. What you actually measured is the latency in idle state ;-) Open a console and run while : ; do time sh -c dd if=/dev/zero of=bigfile bs=8M count=256 ; sync; rm bigfile; done Then, open another one and run fsync-tester. The numbers that count to compare different elevators on your system is the output fsync-tester generates while your machine is generating the bigfile. Thanks Heinz! Indeed, I took every precaution to leave the machine still. :-) Here are the program numbers while running the script: CFQ: write time: 0.0010s fsync time: 0.8647s write time: 0.1340s fsync time: 3.1220s write time: 2.1435s fsync time: 2.8134s write time: 0.1458s fsync time: 8.3726s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 1.0401s write time: 0.0175s fsync time: 1.0270s write time: 4.0406s fsync time: 0.0321s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 4.8683s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 0.3178s Deadline run1: write time: 0.0009s fsync time: 82.3477s Deadline run2: write time: 0.0007s fsync time: 659.2289s Noop: I give up after waiting for more than 20' to see even the first measurement. As a side note, with deadline and noop schedulers the test can take a LOT to complete and often lock for tens of seconds other programs that make mild accesses to disk (e.g., vim writing this email or unhiding/hiding MATE panel). This happened also in previous tests, run without additional load, but then the tests did complete in a reasonable amount of time. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD to SSD question.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 04:02:42PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 20.08.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote: Then, open another one and run fsync-tester. The numbers that count to compare different elevators on your system is the output fsync-tester generates while your machine is generating the bigfile. And while your're at it, you could also consider doing some fsmark runs (without the load), e.g.: ./fs_mark -S 1 -D 1 -N 10 -d /home/htd/fsmark/test -s 65536 -t4 -w 4096 -F Notice the -t switch, which lets you specify the number of threads used. Here they are: CFQ: # ./fs_mark -S 1 -D 1 -N 10 -d /home/mihai/tmp/c/fs_mark-3.3 -s 65536 -t4 -w 4096 -F # Version 3.3, 4 thread(s) starting at Tue Aug 20 23:30:40 2013 # Sync method: INBAND FSYNC: fsync() per file in write loop. # Directories: Round Robin between directories across 1 # subdirectories with 10 files per subdirectory. # File names: 40 bytes long, (16 initial bytes of time stamp # with 24 random bytes at end of name) # Files info: size 65536 bytes, written with an IO size of # 4096 bytes per write # App overhead is time in microseconds spent in the test not # doing file writing related system calls. # FSUse%Count SizeFiles/sec App Overhead 77 400065536 50.488160 77 800065536 43.2 104150 771200065536 44.494512 Deadline: # ./fs_mark -S 1 -D 1 -N 10 -d /home/mihai/tmp/c/fs_mark-3.3/test -s 65536 -t4 -w 4096 -F # Version 3.3, 4 thread(s) starting at Tue Aug 20 23:42:19 2013 # Sync method: INBAND FSYNC: fsync() per file in write loop. # Directories: Round Robin between directories across 1 # subdirectories with 10 files per subdirectory. # File names: 40 bytes long, (16 initial bytes of time stamp # with 24 random bytes at end of name) # Files info: size 65536 bytes, written with an IO size of # 4096 bytes per write # App overhead is time in microseconds spent in the test not # doing file writing related system calls. # FSUse%Count SizeFiles/sec App Overhead 77 400065536 47.692902 77 800065536 41.6 101888 771200065536 39.697937 Noop: # ./fs_mark -S 1 -D 1 -N 10 -d /home/mihai/tmp/c/fs_mark-3.3/test -s 65536 -t4 -w 4096 -F # Version 3.3, 4 thread(s) starting at Tue Aug 20 23:48:10 2013 # Sync method: INBAND FSYNC: fsync() per file in write loop. # Directories: Round Robin between directories across 1 # subdirectories with 10 files per subdirectory. # File names: 40 bytes long, (16 initial bytes of time stamp # with 24 random bytes at end of name) # Files info: size 65536 bytes, written with an IO size of # 4096 bytes per write # App overhead is time in microseconds spent in the test not # doing file writing related system calls. # FSUse%Count SizeFiles/sec App Overhead 77 400065536 46.889478 77 800065536 42.0 101337 771200065536 43.295834 It does not look like significant differences between schedulers. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD to SSD question.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 08:32:22PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 20.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: Here are the program numbers while running the script: CFQ: [] Seems that cfq performs better on your machine, under this workload. Apparently so. But I can't explain the really poor performance of the other schedulers. I run an OCZ Vertex 4, filesystem is XFS mounted with rw,noatime,attr2,discard,nobarrier,inode64,logbufs=8,logbsize=256k,noquota. These are my deadline parameters: echo deadline /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler echo 0 /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/front_merges echo 8 /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/fifo_batch These are the disk tunings: /sbin/hdparm -W1 /dev/sda /sbin/blockdev --setra 8192 /dev/sda Mine has mostly F19 defaults: * ext4 with rw,relatime,discard,data=ordered * cat /sys/block/sda/queue/scheduler: deadline * cat /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/front_merges: 1 * cat /sys/block/sda/queue/iosched/fifo_batch: 16 * hdparm /dev/sda: multcount = 0 (off) IO_support= 1 (32-bit) readonly = 0 (off) readahead = 256 (on) geometry = 31130/255/63, sectors = 500118192, start = 0 * hdparm -W /dev/sda: write-caching = 1 (on) * blockdev --report /dev/sda: RORA SSZ BSZ StartSecSize Device rw 256 512 4096 0256060514304 /dev/sda Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD to SSD question.
On Tue, Aug 20, 2013 at 08:36:24PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 20.08.2013, Heinz Diehl wrote: [] And the kernel is vanilla from kernel.org: [htd@kiera ~]$ uname -a Linux kiera.fritha.org 3.10.8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Aug 20 19:53:31 CEST 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux F19 is missing preempt: Linux mtl.m.lazarescu.org 3.10.7-200.fc19.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Aug 15 23:19:45 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD to SSD question.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 06:30:06PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: Don't forget to switch to the deadline elevator, it works a lot better than cfq in combination with non-rotational drives. It appears that CFQ can sense and adapt to SSD and has little if any loss to other I/O schedulers: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Talk:Solid_State_Drives http://www.velobit.com/storage-performance-blog/bid/126135/Effects-Of-Linux-IO-Scheduler-On-SSD-Performance Also, here you can find some tips to increase SSD performance and lifetime: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Solid_State_Drives Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD to SSD question.
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 09:24:14PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: On 19.08.2013, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: It appears that CFQ can sense and adapt to SSD and has little if any loss to other I/O schedulers: http://www.velobit.com/storage-performance-blog/bid/126135/Effects-Of-Linux-IO-Scheduler-On-SSD-Performance They only tested bandwidth, not latency. On my systems, deadline outperforms cfq, both wrt bandwidth *and* latency, both felt and measured. Latency is especially sensible when there's a lot of disk I/O. You can do some testing using Ted Tso's fsync-tester: https://oss.oracle.com/~mason/fsync-tester.c Thanks for the pointer. I add to the mix my test results for F19 with kernel 3.10.7 on an ASUS UX31E with its factory 256GB SSD-only mass storage. CFQ scheduler run1: write time: 0.0007s fsync time: 0.9397s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 5.6349s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 1.1586s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 14.4159s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 12.7619s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 13.5689s CFQ scheduler run2: write time: 0.0010s fsync time: 0.9970s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 5.7953s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 0.9726s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 14.9300s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 0.7052s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 8.3616s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 2.1200s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 4.5161s Deadline scheduler run1: write time: 0.0007s fsync time: 1.6141s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 11.2728s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 18.5445s write time: 8.0272s fsync time: 23.0132s Deadline scheduler run2: write time: 0.0137s fsync time: 0.9517s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 11.5287s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 17.4877s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 12.9626s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 56.6898s Noop scheduler run1: write time: 0.0062s fsync time: 1.2807s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 11.4450s write time: 0.0005s fsync time: 18.3745s write time: 7.6150s fsync time: 25.1109s Noop scheduler run2: write time: 0.0099s fsync time: 1.3952s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 11.3167s write time: 0.0004s fsync time: 19.0572s write time: 7.4895s fsync time: 25.1773s Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: f19 scientific and boolean calculator
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 09:44:35PM +, Andre Robatino wrote: Les Howell hlhowell at pacbell.net writes: Does anyone know what happened to the calculator? I upgraded to F19 and now the calculator shows up like a 2.00 simple calculator. I need the boolean and scientific functions. The version in F19 (gnome-calculator-3.8.2-1.fc19) does not have any menus in the top bar. It also appears to be impossible to resize. The version gnome-calculator-3.9.4-2.fc20 in Rawhide has an Application menu in the top bar which allows choice of mode, including Advanced (scientific) and Programming (boolean). However, it also cannot be resized. You might want to file a bug, if there isn't one already. Weird, I have gnome-calculator-3.8.2-1.fc19.x86_64 and I see (and can use) the Application menu. I don't know if it matters, but I use Mate for session and Sawfish as WM. It does not resize, though. Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: HD to SSD question.
On Sun, Aug 18, 2013 at 10:57:09PM +0200, Erik P. Olsen wrote: I plan to swap the HD on my laptop with an SSD of same size. Will it work OK if I dd the HD to an external HD, swap the HD with the SSD and dd the contents back to the SSD? I believe I can use knoppix to the process. You can dd /dev/sdXX of the HDD into a file, then dd that file into the SSD. It should generally work. If you have a spare laptop that can host either the original HDD or the new SSD for the duration of the operation, you can boot both from a live distro and dd directly from one to the other via network. It may help to zero the unused space and the swap partition(s) on source HDD and compress the transfer over net. But _do_ check carefully that the SSD has at least the same number of _bytes/sectors_ and sector size as the HDD, else you risk to end up with corrupted partitions. E.g., my 256GB SSD says: fdisk -l /dev/sda Disk /dev/sda: 256.1 GB, 256060514304 bytes, 500118192 sectors Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes Should the SSD be slightly shorter you can boot from a live distro and shrink a bit the last partition on the source HDD to keep it within the destination SSD boundary. You may also want to check Clonezilla, which automates some operations: http://clonezilla.org/ Good luck! Mihai -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Fedora Code of Conduct: http://fedoraproject.org/code-of-conduct Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
