Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-24 Thread Rick Stevens
On 07/24/2017 06:17 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:
> On 07/21/2017 10:41 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:
>> On 07/22/17 13:11, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:
>>> On 07/21/2017 07:48 AM, stan wrote:
 On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:37:08 -0700
 Sherman Grunewagen  wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ?
> Why? Long story.  Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is
> unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10.  With 4.11.8 it is not.  But
> since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the
> kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10.
>
> Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm
> now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers!
>
> Thus my question.  Or is there a better way?

 You can find them at koji, download them for your architecture, and
 then
 downgrade using dnf,
 dnf -C downgrade ./[header file name]

 https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=913370

 I recall reading that a 4.12 stable kernel is going to find its way
 into F25, perhaps that will fix your issue.
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>>>
>>> Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200,
>>> dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages.  Of course I
>>> said "no".
>>> If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to downgrade
>>> all those other
>>> packages?  (I've never downgraded anything.)
>>>
>>>
>>
>> There will be only one kernel-headers package on your system and is
>> normally updated
>> each time the kernel gets updated.
>>
>> So, if you've downloaded the 4.11.8 kernel-headers you should just be
>> able to do
>>
>> dnf erase kernel-headers
>>
>> followed by
>>
>> dnf install ./kernel-headers-whatever.rpm
>>
> 
> Thanks Ed. (Sorry for the tardy reply.)
> When I do "dnf erase kernel-headers" it says it wants
> to remove 137 packages even though I've cd'd to /tmp in which
> sits  kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64.rpm.
> 
> Perhaps you meant "dnf downgrade kernel-headers"?
> 
> Anyway, I discovered that the 4.11.8 kernel does not
> fix my wifi problems.  It turns out that there is a nasty
> interference issue between the wifi and the outboard USB
> disk docking station.  I've had it off since booting 4.11.8.
> Today I turned it on while uploading files to another computer
> and my wifi locked up same as before.  When I had all the problems
> earlier under 4.11.10, the USB disk was also running.
> Have no idea how to fix this!

Not clear if the disk dock is part of a full-up docking station. If it
isn't, I'd try using a different USB port for the disk. Second, try to
use shielded USB cables. Cheap USB cables--especially for things like
disks--are a bad idea.

Third, if you have an external wifi antenna, try changing its
orientation or get an extension cable (they are available) and move the
antenna away from the disk.

If the disk is part of an integrated docking station, then I'd contact
the manufacturer and see if it's a) defective; or b) if this is a known
problem and they have a solution.

> 
> -Sherman
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-24 Thread Sherman Grunewagen

On 07/22/2017 11:24 AM, stan wrote:

On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:11:04 -0700
Sherman Grunewagen  wrote:


Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200,
dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages.  Of course I
said "no". If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to
downgrade all those other packages?  (I've never downgraded anything.)


Removing is a lot different than downgrading.  As Ed said, there is
only one kernel-headers package on the system, so removing it wants to
remove anything which depends on it.  Downgrading is not going to
remove the dependency, it is going to change the version of it.  So, it
should ignore all those dependencies because they aren't going to be
affected.  When I just tried the command on my system, dnf just wanted
to grab the lower version of the headers.  I said 'no' to the question
of whether I wanted to continue, but I presume it would have just
downloaded the package and replaced the existing package.

You can try it easily.  Just type the downgrade command, and if the
transaction wants to still remove all those dependent packages, answer
'no' to the continue question, and post your experience here.


Yes, I did some reading after trying Ed's suggestion and discovered
that 1) one needs to be in the directory with the downgrade rpm (if it's not
available in the Fedora repos, and 2) use "downgrade" not "erase as the dnf
directive.  Thanks so much to both you and Ed for your help!

-Sherman

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Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-24 Thread Sherman Grunewagen

On 07/21/2017 10:41 PM, Ed Greshko wrote:

On 07/22/17 13:11, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:

On 07/21/2017 07:48 AM, stan wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:37:08 -0700
Sherman Grunewagen  wrote:


Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ?
Why? Long story.  Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is
unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10.  With 4.11.8 it is not.  But
since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the
kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10.

Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm
now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers!

Thus my question.  Or is there a better way?


You can find them at koji, download them for your architecture, and then
downgrade using dnf,
dnf -C downgrade ./[header file name]

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=913370

I recall reading that a 4.12 stable kernel is going to find its way
into F25, perhaps that will fix your issue.
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Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200,
dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages.  Of course I said "no".
If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to downgrade all those 
other
packages?  (I've never downgraded anything.)




There will be only one kernel-headers package on your system and is normally 
updated
each time the kernel gets updated.

So, if you've downloaded the 4.11.8 kernel-headers you should just be able to 
do

dnf erase kernel-headers

followed by

dnf install ./kernel-headers-whatever.rpm



Thanks Ed. (Sorry for the tardy reply.)
When I do "dnf erase kernel-headers" it says it wants
to remove 137 packages even though I've cd'd to /tmp in which
sits  kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64.rpm.

Perhaps you meant "dnf downgrade kernel-headers"?

Anyway, I discovered that the 4.11.8 kernel does not
fix my wifi problems.  It turns out that there is a nasty
interference issue between the wifi and the outboard USB
disk docking station.  I've had it off since booting 4.11.8.
Today I turned it on while uploading files to another computer
and my wifi locked up same as before.  When I had all the problems
earlier under 4.11.10, the USB disk was also running.
Have no idea how to fix this!

-Sherman



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Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-22 Thread stan
On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 22:11:04 -0700
Sherman Grunewagen  wrote:

> Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200,
> dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages.  Of course I
> said "no". If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to
> downgrade all those other packages?  (I've never downgraded anything.)

Removing is a lot different than downgrading.  As Ed said, there is
only one kernel-headers package on the system, so removing it wants to
remove anything which depends on it.  Downgrading is not going to
remove the dependency, it is going to change the version of it.  So, it
should ignore all those dependencies because they aren't going to be
affected.  When I just tried the command on my system, dnf just wanted
to grab the lower version of the headers.  I said 'no' to the question
of whether I wanted to continue, but I presume it would have just
downloaded the package and replaced the existing package.

You can try it easily.  Just type the downgrade command, and if the
transaction wants to still remove all those dependent packages, answer
'no' to the continue question, and post your experience here.
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Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-21 Thread Ed Greshko
On 07/22/17 13:11, Sherman Grunewagen wrote:
> On 07/21/2017 07:48 AM, stan wrote:
>> On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:37:08 -0700
>> Sherman Grunewagen  wrote:
>>
>>> Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ?
>>> Why? Long story.  Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is
>>> unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10.  With 4.11.8 it is not.  But
>>> since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the
>>> kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10.
>>>
>>> Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm
>>> now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers!
>>>
>>> Thus my question.  Or is there a better way?
>>
>> You can find them at koji, download them for your architecture, and then
>> downgrade using dnf,
>> dnf -C downgrade ./[header file name]
>>
>> https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=913370
>>
>> I recall reading that a 4.12 stable kernel is going to find its way
>> into F25, perhaps that will fix your issue.
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>
> Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200,
> dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages.  Of course I said "no".
> If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to downgrade all 
> those other
> packages?  (I've never downgraded anything.)
>
>

There will be only one kernel-headers package on your system and is normally 
updated
each time the kernel gets updated. 

So, if you've downloaded the 4.11.8 kernel-headers you should just be able to 
do

dnf erase kernel-headers

followed by

dnf install ./kernel-headers-whatever.rpm



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Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-21 Thread Sherman Grunewagen

On 07/21/2017 07:48 AM, stan wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:37:08 -0700
Sherman Grunewagen  wrote:


Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ?
Why? Long story.  Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is
unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10.  With 4.11.8 it is not.  But
since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the
kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10.

Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm
now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers!

Thus my question.  Or is there a better way?


You can find them at koji, download them for your architecture, and then
downgrade using dnf,
dnf -C downgrade ./[header file name]

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=913370

I recall reading that a 4.12 stable kernel is going to find its way
into F25, perhaps that will fix your issue.
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Thanks, Stan. When I tried to remove kernel-headers-4.11.10-200,
dnf said it wanted to remove a lot of other packages.  Of course I said "no".
If I downgrade the headers to 4.11.8, will it also need to downgrade all those 
other
packages?  (I've never downgraded anything.)

-Sherman
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Re: [F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-21 Thread stan
On Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:37:08 -0700
Sherman Grunewagen  wrote:

> Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ?
> Why? Long story.  Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is
> unstable with kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10.  With 4.11.8 it is not.  But
> since I have 4.11.10 installed on my system (with 8, and 9) the
> kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10.
> 
> Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm
> now running. But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers!
> 
> Thus my question.  Or is there a better way?

You can find them at koji, download them for your architecture, and then
downgrade using dnf,
dnf -C downgrade ./[header file name]

https://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=913370

I recall reading that a 4.12 stable kernel is going to find its way
into F25, perhaps that will fix your issue.
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[F25] getting an old kernel-header rpm

2017-07-20 Thread Sherman Grunewagen

Can anyone tell me how to get kernel-headers-4.11.8-200.fc25.x86_64 ?
Why? Long story.  Short version: my Intel 8265 wireless card is unstable with
kernel-4.11.9 and 4.11.10.  With 4.11.8 it is not.  But since I have 4.11.10 
installed
on my system (with 8, and 9) the kernel-headers are also at 4.11.10.

Vmware workstation needs to build its modules under 4.11.8 which I'm now 
running.
But it can't w/o the matching kernel-headers!

Thus my question.  Or is there a better way?

-Sherman
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