Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:22 PM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 12:53 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: With the straight kmod you have to be careful about kernel upgrades because it will not get updated until the 2nd yum update run Never happened to me. occasionally there's a significant delay between a new kernel and the kmod driver being available. That did. And 'twere the only reason why a kernel upgrade might not take place (interdependent packages not yet available). Otherwise, all downloaded updates get applied. However, things like kernel updates wouldn't be used until after a reboot, and other things until whatever they were was restarted. Since the kernel is not dependent on kmod packages then the kernel will get updated regardless of kmod availability. Until the new kernel is installed then the dependency of the kmod is not met, which is why they don't get installed until the 2nd update run. To fix this would take some sort of yum plugin that would both prevent a new kernel from getting installed unless all appropriate kmod packages were available and also cause the kmods to be updated in the same update run as the kernel. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 08:05 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: Since the kernel is not dependent on kmod packages then the kernel will get updated regardless of kmod availability. Until the new kernel is installed then the dependency of the kmod is not met, which is why they don't get installed until the 2nd update run. Still don't recall that, either. If, when I did a yum update, there was a kernel and kmod update, they were both downloaded and installed. The kmod download and install didn't depend on the new kernel being already installed. In both cases there were updates for already installed packages (e.g. kernel and nvidia kmod, never mind which versions), so they were applied. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
On 10/11/2011 06:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: Since the kernel is not dependent on kmod packages then the kernel will get updated regardless of kmod availability. Until the new kernel is installed then the dependency of the kmod is not met, which is why they don't get installed until the 2nd update run. I have never seen this happen. If the kmod is available when the kernel's updated, the new kmod comes in. This isn't because of a dependency, but because the kmod itself is being updated. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:48 PM, Joe Zeff j...@zeff.us wrote: On 10/11/2011 06:05 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: Since the kernel is not dependent on kmod packages then the kernel will get updated regardless of kmod availability. Until the new kernel is installed then the dependency of the kmod is not met, which is why they don't get installed until the 2nd update run. I have never seen this happen. If the kmod is available when the kernel's updated, the new kmod comes in. This isn't because of a dependency, but because the kmod itself is being updated. I'm not sure what's different on my system other than having the akmod package installed at the same time. Here's one on my system from /var/log/yum.log: # grep -E Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6|Installed: kernel-2.6 yum.log Jan 25 07:32:49 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.10-74.fc14.x86_64-260.19.36-1.fc14.x86_64 Feb 11 14:15:51 Installed: kernel-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64 Feb 14 10:28:58 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.11-83.fc14.x86_64-260.19.36-1.fc14.1.x86_64 Apr 11 20:10:49 Installed: kernel-2.6.35.12-88.fc14.x86_64 Apr 28 09:15:10 Installed: kernel-2.6.35.12-90.fc14.x86_64 May 01 20:23:56 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.12-90.fc14.x86_64-270.41.06-1.fc14.3.x86_64 May 10 13:51:13 Installed: kernel-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.x86_64 May 10 17:36:26 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.x86_64-260.19.36-1.fc14.4.x86_64 May 13 13:35:27 Installed: kernel-2.6.38.6-26.rc1.fc14.x86_64 May 13 18:00:39 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.35.13-91.fc14.x86_64-270.41.06-1.fc14.3.x86_64 May 13 22:47:52 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.38.6-26.rc1.fc14.x86_64-270.41.06-1.fc14.1.x86_64 May 17 08:38:03 Installed: kernel-2.6.38.6-27.fc14.x86_64 May 17 08:41:33 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.38.6-27.fc14.x86_64-270.41.06-1.fc14.1.x86_64 Jun 07 11:24:16 Installed: kernel-2.6.38.8-31.fc14.x86_64 Jun 08 20:06:38 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.38.8-31.fc14.x86_64-275.09-1.fc14.1.x86_64 Jul 09 13:53:09 Installed: kernel-2.6.38.8-35.fc14.x86_64 Jul 29 16:12:22 Installed: kernel-2.6.40-3.fc14.x86_64 Aug 01 20:59:38 Installed: kernel-2.6.38.8-35.fc15.x86_64 Aug 01 21:02:50 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.38.8-35.fc15.x86_64-275.09.07-1.fc15.2.x86_64 Aug 02 09:34:02 Installed: kernel-2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64 Aug 03 20:36:53 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64-280.13-2.fc15.x86_64 Aug 03 20:37:48 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.38.8-35.fc15.x86_64-275.21-1.fc15.x86_64 Aug 18 08:27:16 Installed: kernel-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64 Aug 20 07:25:32 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.40.3-0.fc15.x86_64-280.13-2.fc15.1.x86_64 Sep 07 11:35:46 Installed: kernel-2.6.40.4-5.fc15.x86_64 Sep 08 11:49:22 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.40.4-5.fc15.x86_64-280.13-2.fc15.2.x86_64 Oct 06 09:11:17 Installed: kernel-2.6.40.6-0.fc15.x86_64 Oct 10 10:59:40 Updated: 1:kmod-nvidia-2.6.40.6-0.fc15.x86_64-280.13-2.fc15.3.x86_64 Most of the time the kmod and kernel don't get upgraded on the same day and even when they do it's at a different time. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
**I ask that flamers please withhold whatever comments may derail this thread from its goal of helping me run the proprietary nVidia driver.** Rightly or wrongly, prior to F15, I've used the proprietary nVidia driver almost exclusively. I abandoned the proprietary nVidia driver with my upgrade to F15 because, for whatever reason, it failed to run. I am now running mythTV front ends on several of my nVidia equipped computers. The front end process is VERY video processing intensive and its not uncommon for top to show the mythfrontend process taking 100% of 1 processor on my T8100 laptop when using nouveau. Supposedly running vdpau will drop the processor load down to ~ 10%. I would like to resume using the proprietary nVidia driver. What is the best way to do this ? kmod-nvidia ? akmod-nvidia ? Has the content of the xorg.conf file changed recently ? Any and all comments and/or tips and trick for once again running the proprietary nVidia driver will be greatly appreciated. Thanks ! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
Without more information it's nearly impossible to tell what's wrong. I did a preupgrade on my desktop from F14 to F15 and everything works fine with the binary nvidia drivers. I used both an oldre 7600GT and recently upgrade to a GTS450. I haven't had to mess with my xorg.conf at all. As far as kmod or akmod, they're pretty much identical. With the straight kmod you have to be careful about kernel upgrades because it will not get updated until the 2nd yum update run and occasionally there's a significant delay between a new kernel and the kmod driver being available. Of course the akmod package allows you to build your own kmod package on your end without having to wait for the kmod to be available but has the down side of needing devel tools including kernel-headers and kernel-devel. Richard -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
I got the proprietary nvidia driver running using the instructions here. http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2011/fedora-15-nvidia-drivers-install-guide/ Of course it kept running the nouveau driver, even after I followed the instructions there. I had to resort to doing a dracut -f /boot/initramfs-$(uname -r).img $(uname -r) to get it to run. I haven't touched the xorg.conf file to set up anything special yet. At this point I am just happy its running. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
Re: Current F15 kernels + proprietary nVidia driver ? kmod, akmod, x11 config.
On Mon, 2011-10-10 at 12:53 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: With the straight kmod you have to be careful about kernel upgrades because it will not get updated until the 2nd yum update run Never happened to me. occasionally there's a significant delay between a new kernel and the kmod driver being available. That did. And 'twere the only reason why a kernel upgrade might not take place (interdependent packages not yet available). Otherwise, all downloaded updates get applied. However, things like kernel updates wouldn't be used until after a reboot, and other things until whatever they were was restarted. -- [tim@localhost ~]$ uname -r 2.6.27.25-78.2.56.fc9.i686 Don't send private replies to my address, the mailbox is ignored. I read messages from the public lists. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines
