Re: Desktop icons on Fedora 25??

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl 
On 23.11.2016, Joe Zeff wrote: 

> Thank you.  I stopped using Gnome when I heard what Gnome 3 was going to be
> like, and you just gave me another reason not to go back.

Me too ;-)
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Re: Desktop icons on Fedora 25??

2016-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff 

On 11/23/2016 12:57 PM, Christopher wrote:

Ultimately, I think the blame goes to Gnome 3 designers, if you need
somebody to blame. I believe it was their decision to drive people away
from desktop icons. (Probably because people tend to fill it with junk,
uglifying an otherwise elegant desktop environment.)


Thank you.  I stopped using Gnome when I heard what Gnome 3 was going to 
be like, and you just gave me another reason not to go back.

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Re: Desktop icons on Fedora 25??

2016-11-23 Thread Christopher 
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 2:09 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 11/23/2016 02:25 AM, Saša Janiška wrote:
> > Fedora 25 uses Wayland by default, in order to have desktop icons you
> > should start (from GDM), Xorg session.
>
> Wayland doesn't use desktop icons???


No. As I understand it, Gnome 3 doesn't do desktop icons, and that it is
nautilus which provides a workaround to reintroduce that behavior as a
"tweak". However, that workaround doesn't currently work on Wayland.

Ultimately, I think the blame goes to Gnome 3 designers, if you need
somebody to blame. I believe it was their decision to drive people away
from desktop icons. (Probably because people tend to fill it with junk,
uglifying an otherwise elegant desktop environment.)

It's probably a good idea to discourage treating the desktop like another
filesystem folder with a bunch of arbitrary junk in it. Unfortunately, this
makes one of the standard xdg dirs (~/Desktop) useless, and unless you have
gnome shell extensions installed, you also won't be able to see icons for
mounted drives, trash, etc.
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Re: Desktop icons on Fedora 25??

2016-11-23 Thread Joe Zeff 

On 11/23/2016 02:25 AM, Saša Janiška wrote:

Fedora 25 uses Wayland by default, in order to have desktop icons you
should start (from GDM), Xorg session.


Wayland doesn't use desktop icons???
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Re: Desktop icons on Fedora 25??

2016-11-23 Thread Saša Janiška 
"Michael D. Setzer II"  writes:

> Update seemed to go thru with no issues, but did notice that there are
> no desktop icons?? Checked the gnome-tweak-tools, and it is set to
> show them, and the files are still in the desktop folder?? Anyone know
> why that would not show.

Fedora 25 uses Wayland by default, in order to have desktop icons you
should start (from GDM), Xorg session.


Sincerely,
Gour

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Desktop icons on Fedora 25??

2016-11-23 Thread Michael D. Setzer II 
Saw that Fedora 25 was released, so did a fedup update on one of my 
classroom machines to show students in my Saturday Linux course. Update 
seemed to go thru with no issues, but did notice that there are no desktop 
icons?? Checked the gnome-tweak-tools, and it is set to show them, and the 
files are still in the desktop folder?? Anyone know why that would not show.

Even found a link to use dconf-editor, but its setting shows that the value for 
the icons is true?


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