Re: Everyone: please keep it civil
On 15/12/2021 00:43, old sixpack13 wrote: On 12/13/21 20:58, Samuel Sieb wrote: I don't think the objection was to that reply. It was to a very sarcastic one that followed it. Riki You need to be a bit more careful about attribution. Although the statement is signed by "Riki" you have "Samuel Sieb wrote" In this case the error is easy to spot. But in other messages you've sent, it is not so easy to detect the problem. -- Did 황준호 die? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Everyone: please keep it civil
> On 12/13/21 20:58, Samuel Sieb wrote: > > I don't think the objection was to that reply. It was to a very > sarcastic one that followed it. > > Riki if me is meant: from me came *no* sarcasm against Samuel. the opposite is true: he declared that I could be wrong and maybe I am. but maybe I'm not: one need to get the whole picture one must read all posts @POC posted since he first touch this list ...YMMV ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Everyone: please keep it civil
On 12/13/21 20:58, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 12/13/21 17:49, old sixpack13 wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:36:00PM -, old sixpack13 wrote: Please do not call people's ideas "brain damaged" in Fedora spaces. This is not okay. not okay: full Agreed to me it's slightly something more then just "ideas" I get very very upset reading again and again on a "user list" where "helpless" (to make it more transparent) user asking for help confronted with the (for my taste) "condescending" answer: "you are wrong here, go !" only ! this never ever will fit with my understanding of a user list. I will never ever accept user (in this case: @POC) forcing their policy/rules on a list regarding what's allowed or not even when they're not the admin of that list. "self-titled authorities" triggering my "toxicity" and then it gets really hard === evolution belong to gnome belongs fedora belong to fedora user list. Period ! Maybe you need to re-read the original email instead of assuming bad intent. I suggest you ask directly on the Evolution list, as this isn't specifically a Fedora question and you're likely to get a wider audience there. It was a suggestion, not an order. I don't think the objection was to that reply. It was to a very sarcastic one that followed it. Riki ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Everyone: please keep it civil
> On 12/13/21 17:49, old sixpack13 wrote: > > Maybe you need to re-read the original email instead of assuming bad intent. > thanks for support ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Everyone: please keep it civil
On 12/13/21 17:49, old sixpack13 wrote: On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:36:00PM -, old sixpack13 wrote: Please do not call people's ideas "brain damaged" in Fedora spaces. This is not okay. not okay: full Agreed to me it's slightly something more then just "ideas" I get very very upset reading again and again on a "user list" where "helpless" (to make it more transparent) user asking for help confronted with the (for my taste) "condescending" answer: "you are wrong here, go !" only ! this never ever will fit with my understanding of a user list. I will never ever accept user (in this case: @POC) forcing their policy/rules on a list regarding what's allowed or not even when they're not the admin of that list. "self-titled authorities" triggering my "toxicity" and then it gets really hard === evolution belong to gnome belongs fedora belong to fedora user list. Period ! Maybe you need to re-read the original email instead of assuming bad intent. I suggest you ask directly on the Evolution list, as this isn't specifically a Fedora question and you're likely to get a wider audience there. It was a suggestion, not an order. He did not say that the question was not allowed on this list. His suggestion was intended to help the user by pointing them to somewhere that would likely be more helpful for their Evolution-specific question. It was not unrelated to Fedora, but it was not Fedora-specific. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: Everyone: please keep it civil
> On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:36:00PM -, old sixpack13 wrote: > > Please do not call people's ideas "brain damaged" in Fedora spaces. This is > not okay. > not okay: full Agreed to me it's slightly something more then just "ideas" I get very very upset reading again and again on a "user list" where "helpless" (to make it more transparent) user asking for help confronted with the (for my taste) "condescending" answer: "you are wrong here, go !" only ! this never ever will fit with my understanding of a user list. I will never ever accept user (in this case: @POC) forcing their policy/rules on a list regarding what's allowed or not even when they're not the admin of that list. "self-titled authorities" triggering my "toxicity" and then it gets really hard === evolution belong to gnome belongs fedora belong to fedora user list. Period ! ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Everyone: please keep it civil
On Sat, Dec 11, 2021 at 05:36:00PM -, old sixpack13 wrote:
> therefore we exactly have *you* to move them, and of course "fedora
> users" too, off that lists, because they don't fit into ${poc's brain
> damaged sort and regulation scheme}
Please do not call people's ideas "brain damaged" in Fedora spaces. This is
not okay.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#Be_Courteous
Others: also, please don't respond in kind. It just makes things worse.
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Matthew Miller
Fedora Project Leader
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