Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:03:16PM +0800, Ed Greshko wrote:
> I do not believe that Xfce has been updated to support wayland.  I don't have 
> it
> installed, but I believe if you open a terminal and check for the environment 
> variables it
> will tell you if you're running a wayland session.
> WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-0

or $ echo $XDG_SESSION_TYPE

which will give either x11 or wayland.

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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 11:29:28AM +0100, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> > On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11".
> Is there a similar method for XFCE? The new font rendering is simply
> disgusting, especially in Firefox and Thunderbird.

The Xfce session is currently already only X11, not Wayland. Your font
rendering issue is something different.


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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 26.11.2016, Ed Greshko wrote: 

> I do not believe that Xfce has been updated to support wayland.

Thanks, you're right.
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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko


On 11/26/16 22:07, Andras Simon wrote:
> 2016-11-23 18:06 GMT+01:00, Dario Lesca :
>> ... Or finally disable it
>>
>> Wayland Do not work great like Xorg, and I do not have time to wait for
>> all bugs are removed
>>
> Can't one simply dnf erase a few packages?
>

You could probably try removing gnome-session-wayland-session.

Removing plasma-workspace-wayland will delete the option to run KDE with 
wayland.

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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Andras Simon
2016-11-23 18:06 GMT+01:00, Dario Lesca :
> ... Or finally disable it
>
> Wayland Do not work great like Xorg, and I do not have time to wait for
> all bugs are removed
>

Can't one simply dnf erase a few packages?

Andras
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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Ed Greshko


On 11/26/16 18:29, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 23.11.2016, Matthew Miller wrote: 
>
>> On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11".
> Is there a similar method for XFCE? The new font rendering is simply
> disgusting, especially in Firefox and Thunderbird.
>

I do not believe that Xfce has been updated to support wayland.  I don't have it
installed, but I believe if you open a terminal and check for the environment 
variables it
will tell you if you're running a wayland session.

WAYLAND_DISPLAY=wayland-0

or something similar will show.  This is what shows when running GNOME or KDE 
with wayland.

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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Sat, 2016-11-26 at 08:25 -0500, Tom Horsley wrote:
> > It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a gnome
> > developer's brain
> 
> And the other mystery is how the devil to get gmail
> to not bottom quote (sorry about that - I don't normally
> use the gmail web interface :-).

Gmail top-quotes by default. It bottom-quotes when you preselect some
text before hitting Reply.

poc
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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Tom Horsley
> It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a gnome
> developer's brain

And the other mystery is how the devil to get gmail
to not bottom quote (sorry about that - I don't normally
use the gmail web interface :-).
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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Thomas Horsley
I figured this would be easy: Just look in the .desktop files in
/usr/share/xsessions and see what is different about gnome and gnome
on xorg.
But no. It is a mystery wrapped in an enigma wrapped in a gnome
developer's brain: Both gnome desktop files execute gnome-session the
exact same way.

On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 5:29 AM, Heinz Diehl  wrote:
> On 23.11.2016, Matthew Miller wrote:
>
>> On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11".
>
> Is there a similar method for XFCE? The new font rendering is simply
> disgusting, especially in Firefox and Thunderbird.
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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-26 Thread Heinz Diehl
On 23.11.2016, Matthew Miller wrote: 

> On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11".

Is there a similar method for XFCE? The new font rendering is simply
disgusting, especially in Firefox and Thunderbird.
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Re: F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-23 Thread Matthew Miller
On Wed, Nov 23, 2016 at 06:06:36PM +0100, Dario Lesca wrote:
> ... Or finally disable it
> Wayland Do not work great like Xorg, and I do not have time to wait for
> all bugs are removed

On the login screen, click the little gear. Choose "GNOME on X11".

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F25: Howto remove wayland from Fedora Workstation (gnome)

2016-11-23 Thread Dario Lesca
... Or finally disable it

Wayland Do not work great like Xorg, and I do not have time to wait for
all bugs are removed

Thanks
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(inviato dal mio Linux Fedora 24 Workstation)
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